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Arvut & Responsibility for other Jews | Rabbi Anthony Manning | July 15 2026
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um and with Israel. Now, um I was
originally planning uh in my ignorance
that we would have two more shim today
and next week, but that was whipped away
from me. So uh I part two of lif which I
was going to give you will have to just
wait um because I did not want to put
off today's sh which is a new sh which I
think is very important for us to
consider before tishab where I want to
talk about the idea of k is arim z which
we've never spoken about in this forum
um but which raises a number of very
important ideas and hashgraphically
we're going to start with the hashkafra
and end with the hala
um and very appropriate for us to
consider at this time of year. I want to
interface that a little bit and
integrate it with satinam talk about a
little bit about what that is, what that
isn't. Um but there'll be a lot of very
interesting material. Let's start with
the Brits. The Brits of Arvut, which uh
sometimes gets a little overlooked,
meaning we stood at Sinai, we entered
into the Brit at Sinai. But we also
entered into another Brits, the Brit,
the Brits of mutual responsibility,
which we entered into at Haral and
Harrisim
in Seafi. And Moshe predicts this and
instructs the people to do this at the
end of number one. This will get you in
the mood for rash. Okay.
ou you're all here says Moshe
is every Jewish man is here but not just
the men the kids are here all the women
are here
and others who have joined the from
outside
the the workers the the upper classes
the lower classes everybody is here
You are entering into a bridge into his
oath, his firm oath.
What is what is this for?
You are today becoming a people. When
you enter into this prison, you will not
just be 603,000
Jews. You will be Israel in its fullest
sense.
And God is going to be your God in its
fullest sense.
This is very important. This brid is not
just with the people standing at
those who are with us standing today
part of the brid
and those who are in the future are all
that's us in this room. I don't know if
they could have imagined the idea of
people 3,000 years later reading this
and saying, "Yes, that's us. We're still
here 3,000 years later." And then he
gives the warning. I've skipped a few,
but I'll go on here.
Maybe there's a man or a woman here
who's turning his heart away from
he's going to go off and do his own
thing. And he basically says, "I'll be
all right. I'll be fine. I No one's
going to look at me. No one's going to
care about me. No one's going to know
about me. And he says, "No, because
it'll all backfire on you. H the land
will be destroyed. God will not forgive
that." And if you look in the after the
next ellipsis
and a later generation will come
your grandchildren, great grandchildren
after you non-Jew
who will come from afar.
He'll look and they'll look at the land
the desolate land
and all its curses
outside look like it's been consumed
burnt
nothing will grow nothing will no trees
no bushes
not even a blade of grass come up
just like the the towns of I like to
call them the five towns the five towns
I'm in the Dead Sea. Okay, that were
over here. It's four of them because
only four were ever overruled. Okay,
and the the nonjews will say,
"What could be the reason why this land
was so afflicted?
What was this great anger?
They abandoned the Brits with the God of
their fathers
and God threw them, scattered them from
their land
with great anger
with his big lammed in the Torah which
says because we're there to be teachers
to the Jewish people and beyond.
And then the final famous which we'll be
looking at today,
the hidden things are for God.
But the revealed things are for us and
our children and forever.
And of course Mark Twain when he came to
Palestine, the holy land in the 1860s,
he knew this took him well and he writes
um consciously as the non-Jew who came
from afar and observes the land of
Israel just a few years before the
beginning of the new
etc. And he describes it almost to the
word like it predicts here. So what does
it mean?
The hidden things are for God. But this
brick means that the revealed things are
for us. So Rashi brings down one. We'll
see. It's only one in the explains what
this means. Number two,
if you were going to ask
what could we have done? It's not what
there was a man or a woman or a group, a
family who went off. It's not we didn't
we couldn't do anything.
you're going to punish the whole the
whole nation because there are people
who thinking in their heads I don't want
to be part of it because it says
and the land's going to be absolutely
destroyed
I don't know what's going on in people's
heads don't hold me responsible
says that God says God I won't punish
you for the hidden
that will be that person will pay the
price individually before God.
But the revealed things,
we have a responsibility to get rid of
that negativity from within our
community.
And if we if we don't sort it out, we
are all responsible. We are all going to
be punished. And he says,
And there's the dots over
that to to tell us that this wasn't
going to happen right exactly there and
then but only when they crossed the
Jordan
and I brought you a beautiful ram which
I'm not going to read here this is going
to be homework for you um to excuse me
be a pardon mahal in number three who
says he's talking about the the the
prohibition of lending money on interest
and he says we we're required to lend
each other money because of our kinship
because of our because the fact that
we're all one family that's why we have
to lend money to each other to help each
other somebody who takes interest is
destroying the very nature of the bond
that means that that requires us to lend
to each other and he says that goes to
the very root of what it is to be a
people he says and only when Am Israel
went into to Erit Israel. They became a
people in the fullest sense of the word.
Um it's very interesting. I was just
listening to a podcast on the way in
this morning. Melanie Phillips, maybe
some of you know Melanie Phillips. I
know her a little bit personally and she
was uh recently on a podcast. Um and she
was saying very British Jew, grew up
very much in England, not really
connected so much to Israel. Uh but she
said she realized over the last 20 years
that she only feels like a full Jew when
she's in Erit Israel. She said you
couldn't believe that she would say that
but she feels that way very strongly.
This is the mahar. The mahar gives a a
marshall of water. Water is all over the
place but when you put it in a cle it
holds its shape. So erit is the cle is
the water and when we put it in the cle
it hold its shape. And therefore we have
this absolute responsibility
is arim zer. And we have to work out
what does that mean? What are the
implications of that for us right now.
So let's go over the page. This is
tested immediately. They get into the
land
in the battle of Eureka. I don't think
we've ever had the opportunity to learn
safua together in these shim. It doesn't
come up that much in contemporary
issues, but uh but here we are. I'm not
going to read the whole thing through,
but if you remember the story, let's
pick a few from number four
was the most closed up city
totally sealed.
even though they are a strong army, a
well-armed army, I'm going to deliver
them over to you.
You'll go around the city
for six days. You'll do one.
I don't know if they sang the songs like
we do after each haka, you know, maybe
not. Okay.
And on the seventh day,
you have to get up early, go to
you have to go around the city seven
times.
Seven circuits on the seventh day.
They'll blow the show.
And you'll scream out. You'll say,
"Scream. Everybody cry out because
Hashem is giving us the city." And then
look what happens next.
And Yeshua is going to say that the city
has to be
only who who kept the spies alive.
She she hid the spies the who were there
on the mission.
And this is Yeshua now speaking to the
Jewish people.
be very careful about the
don't ever take from any of it
because then otherwise the Jewish people
will become
will be destroyed
says any silver
it's all sanctified
has to be brought to the mikdash
and the people cried out and the people
cried out
and they blew on the chauffeur.
When the people heard the chauffeur
blowing, blasting out
and the people let out an enormous
scream on this last day.
Down came the walls. Now, here's the
interesting question. What happens next?
The walls have now sunk down and the
people then cross. The army crosses into
the city. ish neg
each man opposite something
and that's how they conquered the city.
Now almost every parish that I've looked
at and looked at quite a lot understands
ishekd to mean that the walls came down
and they didn't have to all go single
file into the city because wherever the
soldiers stood around the wall the wall
came down and they just walked straight
in as they were and they went straight
into the city like that except Rahav's
house which was in the wall which by
some miracle managed not to fall down.
That's an interesting thing. Um but I
listened to a shia by rabo mori of um of
leatra uh rashiva in betsh and his chat
in this which was interesting. I didn't
get a chance to speak to about it means
when the walls came down what happened
to the people in Eureko it was a a very
strongly armed army. He says they had to
do hand-to-hand combat. Ishekdo, the
soldiers came through and they fought
with all of the uh the uh Canaanite
soldiers until they managed to conquer
the city and they built and they took
the city that way and they uh and they
destroyed the city. Okay, fine. But then
what happens in the next Perk is there's
a problem number five.
But the Jewish people, the Ben Israel
took the spoils. Who? Who took the
spoils?
just one man.
this man from the tribe of
Israel and God was angry with the whole
Jewish people
and then what they of course are
completely oblivious to this and Yeshua
then sends to I
okay
I is a little they've just captured
they're invincible they go to the little
but
let's go and do some spying
and they did a spying I okay
they came back to Yeshua and said to
them
we don't need a big army for this maybe
a few thousand men maybe 3,000ish
we can take that no problem
don't don't
make everybody crazy with this they're
only they're only a lowgrade army this
is what they call these days a conceptia
that we now know what that word means in
in Israel that they had this idea that
they all convinced themselves that the
people they were fighting against were
just losers and they weren't going to do
anything and nothing's going to happen.
Just one second. I'll come to you in a
second. So, what actually happened?
They sent a small army, a division of
3,000 men
and they were smashed to pieces.
36 soldiers of of the Jewish army were
slaughtered.
They chased them right from the gateim
and they and they they they smoked them
down by as they went down
and the Jewish people were absolutely
distraught. they would now, you know,
how could this happen? How could we
allow this to happen? How could these
locals who we thought were just losers,
how could they have turned around and
killed so many of our army? Okay. And
how did that happen?
Yeshua tears his clothes
and he falls before the until the
put they put ash on their heads. And
here is the response.
What are you doing on the floor? Get off
the floor. We'll see in a minute why
that he says.
That is not the response that you're
tearing your clothes and you're falling
on the floor.
The Jewish people have sinned, which of
course later on and this is a different
shalp
meaning even though they have sinned,
the Jews are still the Jews. They have
not stopped being God's people.
They have they've broken my promise.
They've taken from the and they've
stolen and they've denied it and they've
hidden it away.
Get ready for tomorrow. We're going to
take we're going to take uh I and they
took I and they captured they took the
whole army and they took I Okay, so
these two stories you're I'm sure quite
familiar with, but I'm I hope you don't
mind that we recap a little bit on them.
>> Yes, Mrs. Is
it
Yes, my understanding is the mid says
was on showers.
That's my understanding. Okay. Now, who
took the spoils? Akan took the spoils,
why does he blame everybody else? Why is
it their responsibility? So, ah, so
we'll see. So, Rav Mori, who I just
mentioned before, said that sometimes
when individuals act in a certain way,
there's a certain societal norm that
allows it to happen. The society knows
this is happening. Maybe the maybe the
soldiers there who were fighting uh they
fought hand-to-hand combat. says maybe
they felt they deserved the spoils.
Maybe they felt it was unfair they
couldn't take. But they didn't take.
Only one person took. But he wouldn't
have been able to take unless there'd
have been an an attitude an approach in
society that enabled this to happen. Uh
and it's not enough to say that there
are fringe lunatic fringe. Yeah, these
guys are just crazies. They just live
there. We're not responsible for them.
No, they live in a context in your
society and you are responsible for
them.
statement that took the spoils on
Shabas.
>> Yeah, that was the least of his
problems, but yes, probably.
>> No, no, the Shabas. Yeah, he could have
taken the spo. I'm not sure. I don't I
don't know if he took the spoils on
Shabas, but in the end, what do they do
to And we'll see this. It opens up the
whole number six.
What you destroyed for us, God will now
destroy for you on this day.
And they stoned him. They killed him.
They executed him Israel, the Jewish
people
and they burnt them. They burnt them
presumably. We'll see that means the
stuff they he took that he shouldn't
have took
and they stoned them. Who did they
stone? So Rashi says number seven oh
hell. Okay, they burnt down his tent
with all the stash of his stuff and all
the stuff that he's stolen from
and they stoned them. Who?
The animals that he taken away, the
animals had to die. But David says
something else. Number eight.
His family were killed. His family were
killed. And then there's a bracket. We
don't know who added this into the
manuscript. May maybe it was him. Maybe
it was someone else.
And it could be because they knew what
had happened. They knew that this is
this was the dysfunction in their family
and they didn't do anything about it.
Althra
talks about this once already there are
people who know about it but turn a
blind eye that allows it to spread and
to spread and everybody becomes to some
degree responsible. And therefore, what
we need to really address here, I'm not
just going to take any questions because
I need to get through quite a bit today.
What we really need to distress to to
address here is what is the extent of
our responsibility? Really, do we have
there's a guy in the in the in the
society that is uh doing his own thing.
Do we really need to be responsible?
Okay, his wife and his kids know about
it, but no, no one else was doing this.
Um, it appears that this is our
responsibility, and we're going to look
at the magnitude of that soon. Look over
to page three. The Gomorrah in Sanhedrin
says, "You know something, a he was a
repeat offender, but no one had done
anything about it until now." Number
nine,
actually he' done this twice before
before he got to to
Yeshua. He did it already with Moshe
when they the king of Ar maybe they the
og and etc etc. He did it before because
he said because they say to him so he he
admits
I've done this before
he'd done it five times altogether
four times in the time of
and once now
they want to say he'd done it more and
more So, okay, why weren't they
responsible till now?
Why were they not punished because of
this? They knew it was going on.
Listen to this. This is not what you're
going to expect.
The Jewish people were not punished for
secret private things
until they crossed the Jordan. According
to this opinion, once we crossed the
Jordan and stood at Harri Zim, not only
are we responsible for the things we
know about, they were responsible for
the things we should have known about.
We should have known about them. There
was stuff going on. There was abuse
going on. There was dysfunction going
on. Oh, I didn't know about that. It's
not my No, it was apparently our
responsibility. And he says, this is aim
of which Rashi, the famous cheetah, only
brings one side. Look at what he says.
Three, four lines up from the bottom.
Now, doesn't that sound obvious? We're
only responsible for the public stuff,
not the private stuff.
What are the dots for
and on the
whenever there are dots on a word is
telling us do not read this word the way
that it looks though it's meant as
though it's meant to be read. Muhammad
is teaching us
we are only responsible for the secret
things
once we cross the Jordan. Huda says
and this is Rash's cheetah that he
brings says really
are we ever responsible for the secret
things.
It says that you know we're never going
to responsible for these things forever
only on the
just like we were never responsible for
the secret things.
So too we're not responsible for the
revealed things until we cross the
Jordan. Okay. So what do we what's going
on here? Two views in the garra. One
view is we're arav just for the revealed
things. And one is we're arav all for
the things we don't know about. So that
comes back to the question what how can
we not know about? How can we be
responsible if we don't know? So look at
this malb. This malim I think is very
powerful. Number 10 he explains it. D is
the leaders of the Jewish people and
their wise men
they have to be constantly vigilant and
aware
they it's their business to know what
people are doing
the leadership should never excuse
themselves
say no what could I do we didn't know
about it he wasn't it wasn't wasn't
revealed.
They are responsible to know what goes
on behind closed doors.
And if the leadership is negligent,
then everybody suffers
even on the private things of people who
are doing bad
because we're responsible for each
other.
When we cross the Jordan
and we're responsible for each other,
we are now responsible even for the
private.
We could have possibly done anything
about it.
That's why we're responsible for just
put it away in the under his tent. How
would we know about that even? No, we're
apparently responsible. The leadership
has to make sure that it roots out these
problems. But, and here's the flip side,
but the leadership has to be careful
that it doesn't impose rules,
extreme rules,
which are not going to
this can link it with last week.
Sometimes the leadership actually caused
the problem in the first place.
for
and that's why God says to Yeshua you
get up from the floor why
very strong whose fault is it that took
things from he says to Yeshua it's your
fault why why so
that's why he says with I
you'll do to I what you did to
but the the the the booty you should be
able to keep. Meaning who decided that
no one was allowed to take the money
from Eureka Yeshua. Why did he do that?
Why did he need to say that the Jewish
people are going into Israel to the
victim?
He wants to say everything has to go to
he caused that problem. People can't
live up to that. The leadership are
responsible not only to know what's
going on but also not to cause that very
problem. And then he brings at the end
maybe the other is no we're never
responsible for hidden things ever
and why were we responsible for
because his wife and kids knew
and once three people know everybody
knows. We knew we just pretended we
didn't know. We know what's going on.
and we just push it to the side of our
This is very very interesting stuff
because it places a responsibility on us
and I'm going to maybe put that into our
present situation in a little bit to
actually not only know what's going on
but not to make it worse and also to try
and do whatever we possibly can to fix
it even if it's not a problem of our
making. How far does that go? So we
after this source we'll get a bit of
clarity number 11. This is a remarkable
source a Gammorian in Sotza. So remember
the Harrisim and Haral well worth a
visit by the way if you get the chance
to go up to Harra up there you will go
see Harval to Harrisim there's the
valley with in the valley and the two
mountains on the side. So we know from
that the levim stood in the middle and
theim stood on the mountains and they
turned to each of the mountains and said
bor there's a a blessing on people who
keep these mitzvot and a curse on people
who keep uh certain other who don't keep
these mitzvah including which is there
as well. So look how it works. Number
11.
There's a general
general to anyone who is substains the
Torah.
But then there's in the specific
individual mitzvah they say
and then there's generally
etc. And then the specific aurors on the
mitzvah that gets to four. So we've got
four different elements of each mitzvah.
There's the general one and the specific
one and or now you have to do a bit of
math here. Yeah. Then each mitzvah is
every mitzvah that comes in the Torah
comes really with four key elements. We
have to learn it. We have to guard it.
We have to do it. And we have to teach
it. Every Jew is a teacher. Okay. So
harra that's four elements to each
mitzvah.
the harish and har. So every single
mitzvah had four elements to it.
And every one of those is really four
mitzvah. In fact, according to some of
the when they stood at
they actually said
etc. Fine. So now we got to what do we
got to 16? Great. But it's not we're not
over yet. We're not over. It's not over
yet because then
but actually there were three different
you've got you've got
you've got nims and that's how we get to
mitzvah mitzvah. So every single mitzvah
comes with 48 different brit attached to
it. So every mitzvah we do is really
multiplied by 48
says how does this work
the general principles were said on
Sinai
and they were taught.
So he just differs and he says the three
the three britat were Sinai Oed and
Arvis Moav and not Gre and Aval but he
agrees that there were three theorah
and there is not one mitzvah in the
Torah
which doesn't have 48 with it. Every
mitzvah has 48 separate mitzvah with it.
Now we hear another opinion.
Not only do they have 48 mitzvot
multiplied by
every single mitzvah is not just your
mitzvah which is really 48 mitzvah but
it's 48 multiplied by 603,550
which is the number of the people at the
time. Okay. So that's a lot of elements.
So then
comes in and says I'll I'll I'll raise
the stakes even
according to that opinion.
There is no mitzvah in the Torah
that doesn't have 48 on its
so it turns out.
So every Jewish person now has
Okay, that sounds the same as the last
one. 48 time 63,550
says the garra. What's what's he adding?
What's the difference? And look at what
he says
our responsibility
and the responsibility of
responsibility.
That's the difference between them.
Meaning think about this. The first
opinion with the 63,000 says I am
responsible not just for every mitzvah I
do which is really 48 different mitzvah
48 brit every time I give 48 and I am
responsible for that mitzvah for every
other single person of cloud is every
other person and Rhuda comes along and
says not only am I responsible for them
but I'm responsible to make sure that
they're responsible for every single
Jewish person in the world. So, it's not
enough that I say, "Well, what could I
what could I do to influence those
people over there?" Okay, maybe nothing,
but you could do something to help them
and they could do something to help
them. See how far this goes? This is all
interconnected in the most intricate
way. So, you end up with literally
quadrillions of different
responsibilities that interconnect every
Jew. not only am I responsible to do
what I can for the other Jew, but to do
what I can to make sure that other Jew
does what they can to help every other
Jew. This is very significant. And
therefore, I've brought you on the top
of page four a a kind of a a pecking
order of what I feel are the the ways
that we deal with the problems of Cloud
Israel. You can take this or leave it,
but I put here consider three levels of
response. Let's give an example of our
times. uh let's pick a an example that I
think everyone feels quite strongly
about which is very much part of the
discussion at the moment which is uh to
what extent the Karedi community should
be drafted to the army. Okay, let's pick
something nice and easy to start with.
Okay, fine.
So I think there are three there are
three possible responses and we had if
you remember three four sheer on this
back in the OU center you can go on my
website or on the OU you can see all the
responses. My position on this is is
public and people can people can judge
it from them. But the first opport the
first thing we could do which is
completely wrong which is we could turn
around and say I reject those people
because they're not doing this. I REJECT
THAT I REJECT THAT COMMUNITY. I reject
those people. That's why it's because as
I mentioned before the greatest
disservice that anyone ever did to
Tishab was to translate as baseless
hatred. Nobody hates anyone for no
reason. That's just psychotic. No one
acts like that. And when you say it's
baseless hatred, people in the audience
think, okay, well, I don't hate anybody.
That's very strong. And I certainly
don't hate anybody for no reason. So I'm
obviously not part of the problem.
Whatever the problem is, it must be Yam.
It must be them that has baseless hatred
because I I for sure don't have it.
Okay, that's not what means means
rejection, not hatred. Lea was an ishas.
She felt that she was what? Yakov hated
her. Could you use the word hate in
English to describe the relationship
that Yakov felt for Leia or even how she
felt that he felt for her? Absolutely
not. She felt rejected. She felt that he
didn't want her anymore. She was pushed
aside. That's what is
don't push aside your brother or sister
in your mind. So the says the minute you
don't relate to them as your brother or
your sister as a sibling, then then
you've done that prohibition. Meaning we
we disagree with our siblings. We often
fight with our siblings. We often feel
very strongly that our siblings are
making a major mistake in life. But
they're still siblings. The minute you
say, you know, you're not my family.
You're not not interested. That's s
what's the
is where it's on a personal level. Why?
Because there is in theory the second
level which is God forbid I don't reject
you. I just feel strongly about the way
that you're behaving. We had a whole she
about this. I reject your behavior. It's
the behavior that's wrong. And that's
from the Gomorrah because the Gmorrah
talks asks on the when the says if you
see the ox of son of someone you have
sinner for you still have to help them.
So the garra says what do you mean
sinner? You're not allowed to have
sinner for anybody. Who could this
person be? And the garra says this is a
person who's behaving badly and you you
reject the behavior. You still have to
help them. Okay. So we're not allowed to
judge or or reject the people. Certainly
not allowed to reject the people. I
think that any anytime you use a noun
when it comes to these things that ends
in then there's always a strong danger
of of okay
the
I think the is usually a a problem
ending okay because okay maybe you're
saying something which is positive
that's great but once you're talking
about the the people that's okay so the
behavior okay so god forbid I don't hurt
I don't reject any person okay person
comes up to me, I don't say it's your
fault. I don't say I blame you. It's I'd
reject. Just the behavior. So the
which we never quite got to two weeks
ago, but the says you can only accuse
someone of doing something on purpose if
you've given them to. And since nobody
knows how to give anybody to anymore,
all they do is know how to blame people.
Then nobody's considered amazed. How can
you consider them amazed? You never gave
them to Oh, I don't know what to say.
Okay, fine. So then don't judge them as
amazed. So how can you even have sinner
for the behavior?
What I think is the response that we
need and this is very hard is
what can I do to solve this problem in
some in some way maybe there's nothing
but what can I do how can I help what
can I who can I empower in order to help
this and like rebi said not just arvis
but arous maybe you'll turn around and
say yeah but nobody's going to listen to
me they don't listen to me they're not
interested in my opinion I can't do
anything to but maybe I can influence
somebody who can influence that arous I
can support other people who are trying
to make the changes that I would like to
see but I just don't think it's a big
anymore for people to write articles in
the paper saying it's disgraceful what
the community is doing like we all know
that like you've told me something I
didn't know already why is that not like
what is that you want to suggest
solutions great suggest solutions and
try and empower the people who were
trying to bring solutions but just to
just to complain pain just to reject
people to even reject behavior when the
behavior at the end of the day didn't
get to that's not the way forward so
is a very big responsibility maybe
there's nothing we can do okay but we
need to think about it
>> there is something we can do in
>> good excellent you heard it here there
is something you can do okay what
>> I don't know what it's a secret coming
up in October
>> oh she's not telling us okay but there's
there's something we can do oh it's
called an election I think okay fine
okay you You know something, you're
right. That is a totally responsible way
to behave. I want to try and do what
else I can do. But maybe there are other
things we can do as well. Okay. This
Arvvis 603,550*
603,550*
48. Okay.
Is that a mitzvah in and of itself? So
the Rambam in number 12, which I uh
brought you here, which I'll just I
won't read it all inside. He says when
he counts the 613 mitzvah he says I'm
not going to count anything that is not
a mitzvah for all time actually maybe
let's read it because it's very
interesting we've never seen this in the
sh says number 12
the third says the ram as to how I'm
going to count
I'm not going to count anything which is
not permanent
because of this
I'm not going to count
I'm not going to count that.
And I'm not going to count building the
built on. Okay.
They were just temporary measures. They
don't add up to the 613.
If you started counting old things like
that,
all the things that Mosher told the
people to do from the day he got his at
the burning bush till the day he died,
you'd have an awful lot more than 613
mitzvah.
Apart from on top of all of those other
mitzvah,
there'll be another 300 mitzvah. There'd
be 913 mitzvah.
All the things we were told to do in
Egypt.
All the things we had to do in Milim.
Milim here doesn't mean milim. It means
putting up the Mishkan. Okay.
All we had to count these Torah. They're
all in the Torah, but they're not
counted, etc., etc. Um, and not it says
at the end,
not like other people. Who's he talking
about? The Bah the Rambam wrote the 613
mitzvah down in the mitzvah to
contradict what he felt was the bahag
the balas from the from time of the who
had included more of these things who
includes things that Rambam considers
known as rebinic that can't be included
and includes permanent things the Ramban
nakmanades who defends the bahag even
though he often agrees with my manades
but on his on his hashmats his sagots on
the safer mitzvah. He says, "No, why did
the Bahag include Harrisim and Haral?"
Yes, it was a one-off mitzvah one then.
We don't going to go back to Harris and
Har. He says, "But think about what that
mitzvah introduced. It introduced K is
Arab Zel which does apply for all
generations and that's why they included
and it is a separate mitzvah. That's why
the Bah says Aravus is an independent
mitzvah and not just the Bah look at
Rafadigan. As Sajigan wrote a list of
the six 13 mitzvah in a poem. It's about
maybe three or four or five pages long.
Uh uh it's a beautiful poem. It's his
number 14. And he goes through it all
rhymes of course because it's a poem.
So we have gold which is made into the
copper which is made into the for the
offerings.
Okay. And he includes in this list of
the 630 mitzvah the 48 and he references
there the 48 brat that are introduced on
every single mitzvah because of grie and
harali says that's a mitzvah dorat and I
brought in 16 and 15 and 16 raiso
who wrote a commentary on raiggon's
and he brings the same ideas of the
ramban that's because of k is arim
racial by the way wrote a book of about
2,000 pages of commentary on what was a
three page or a four page uh summary of
the mitzvot because he decided once I'm
doing it I may as well do it and he
brings uh so many amazing things on
that. So according to many shiats this
is not just an idea but it is an ongoing
mitzvah in and of itself and it has
hahic implications and let's look at
that for the last 15 16 minutes of the
shia where you'll see that
not just in you know your societal
obligations to try and fix the things
that are wrong but also your obligations
to every other Jew. Look at number 17
says the garam.
Here's an interesting every single
even though you did it already.
You can do it again. Even though you did
the mitzvah, you can do it again for
someone else. How? So,
but not the for bread and wine
because if you're not eating bread and
you're not drinking wine, um,
sorry, if you didn't eat yet, if you
didn't make the yet, you're having you
got a piece of bread in your hand and
you didn't say so then you can do it for
someone else. But if you said already,
you can't do it for someone else.
Meaning if you say to me, uh, can you
just make a brain for me because, uh,
you know, I don't want to make my own.
Yeah, I can. If I'm drinking a glass of
wine, I can make it for me and you can
listen and it's fine. It's as if you
said the braha. But if I'm not drinking
a glass of wine and you just come out of
the blue and say, can you just say brea
for me? I said, well, no, I can't say
bria go for you. I'm not drinking wine.
Yeah, but like you know, you're a Jew. I
don't know how to make the braha. Okay,
give me a glass of wine and I'll make
the braha with you. But I can't just do
it out of the blue. But for mitzvah, you
can. For mitzvah, you can. Meaning,
let's say I was about to make kdish and
I made kdish and someone comes in and
says, "I didn't make kdish yet." I can
make kdish again. I should make kdish
again. Not just shabas morning where you
can make kdish 35 times. And some people
do it seems. Okay? Because it's just
pray pragen pragen in this house. I go
somewhere else. Breafen in that house.
That's easy. But even Friday night, even
Friday night, which involves a real
Shabbat, I did it. Someone comes in
says, "I didn't make I can do it again
and again and again and again." Because
all the time that there's a Jew out
there that didn't do this mitzvah, I
didn't do this mitzvah either on some
real and uh and obligating level. The
Gomorrah asks continues and says, "What
about this boy?
What about of matzah on say the night?
And what about therapy of kdes? Are they
just regular or they also mitzvah
since I have an obligation to do this
mafik? Maybe I can be you
or maybe the is not really the
obligation and I can I can't eat matzah
again for you. So I can't make the braha
again for you. So the Gmorrah answers
the
puppy when we are papy's house. He made
kdish for us Friday night as when other
people came midabra from the fields have
he made kdish again for them. So the
answer is yes. You can make bragoffin
again and again and kdish again and
again even though you did it already
because all the time that you did a
mitzvah if there's another Jew in the
world that you could help to do that
mitzvah and you didn't help then you
didn't do that mitzvah. Of course this
is a massive sugi when it comes to the
issue of outreach of kirv. I listen to
another podcast. I have two really
interesting podcasts two in a row which
is unusual. Okay. Yesterday I used to
listen to a podcast on the way home in
my car, an interview with Rabbi Steven
Gotautle, who is a uh uh is a Rob in
Philadelphia in in a in a more of an
outreach focused community. It was a
very interesting um podcast on why the
modern Orthodox community, the centrist
YU community in America has not taken
the mitzvah of Kira as seriously as the
Kared community. There are programs from
uh Lakewood and there programs from Mony
and you come to Shayashv and you come to
the base mag and you come there but the
modern Orthodox community doesn't seem
to on the contrary sometimes even a
little bit snobby ah we don't do kiraov
really why not why why don't you write
reach re reach out to other Jews you it
doesn't matter that they don't know what
they're doing or that they could be
brought in or that they haven't been
educated he's a very interesting podcast
I strongly recommend it of course it's
more complicated than just that but this
obligation of care of of of outreach in
whatever way you want to do it
effectively is based on this issue of
kraim zer okay good so what comes out of
this if I haven't done a mitzvah and
some if I have done a mitzvah rather
than someone comes along I can do maybe
even I must do the mitzvah again so let
me ask you a question now let's say you
you want to bench and I didn't I didn't
eat bread can I bench for you someone
comes along and said I just finished a
bread meal I don't know how to bench Can
you bench? And I didn't need anything.
Can I just sit down and say, "Sure, I'm
going to sit down at the table and I'll
sit and I'll say, you know,
can I Why can't I just bench for them?"
Maybe I can. It's a mitzvah. He doesn't
know how to do the mitzvah. So, you're
saying, "I can't." Okay, so we'll see.
Look at number 18. So, the Gomorrah
brings an interesting story of Yani
Hame. Look at number 18. Yani Mala. Yani
Hamech sitting in his uh Hasminian
palace
and his queen who is his queen.
They had breakfast together. Okay. They
had bread together. Maybe it was lunch.
Okay.
And because he'd killed all of the
Sanhedrin
they had no one to bench for them. He
didn't know how. and she for whatever
reason wasn't interested in doing it. So
he's he says to his wife,
"Where can we find someone who can make
a bra for us?" This itself is a social
comment of extremely important
proportions. He killed the whole
Sanhedrin. He had a vicious disregard
for human life. And yet he's upset
because he needs to bench. Okay, that's
how people are. Some people
>> some people yes some people there are
people like that I I had an experience
like that a few weeks ago if you we live
in Alen as you know and uh there was a a
mob came into Alenut and smashed up the
house of uh of Noom Soulberg who is the
the deputy head of the Supreme Court who
lives in Alenut a mob of uh crazies that
were against the Supreme Court whatever
so they just they literally smashed his
windows and his car etc etc and he was
then and they managed to get them out of
the street and And a group of them came
up to me and says, "Is there a mar? Is
there a mar around here? We can because
we just needed to have mar."
>> And I'm thinking to myself, okay, I
mean, you know, marav is one thing, but
it it's
you just smashed up somebody's house,
committed
in extreme proportions, and the first
thing in your mind is, you know, you got
to have my So, it's the same thing. So,
I'm not saying you shouldn't have mar,
but there's a there's a there's a
there's a a disconnection there of
immense proportion. So here
um is it needs to bench. So she says to
him,
"Promise me, swear to me,
if I bring you someone who can bench,
you're not going to kill him that you're
not, you know, because you're not going
to give him trouble because every time a
rabbi comes in, that's it's the end."
He said, "I promise. I promise I've got
to bench and benching is benching."
Okay. I see
he brought she brought in her brother
who she'd been hiding Benet from the
Sanhedrin. So, uh, he said, "Okay, bench
and I won't I won't bother you." He said
to them, "Hey, what am I going to bench?
You just brought me out from a cubby
hole, a hiding place, and I'm now going
to bench. I'm going to bench.
I didn't eat. How can I bench? If you
give me to eat, then I'll bench."
Interesting.
So, they gave him a cup of wine. He
drank a cup of wine. So then they
brought him another cup for benching and
he benched. So he he'd eaten something
so he benched.
Okay. What he did
he pass like that we don't pass it.
We passing a little bit differently. It
wasn't good enough. He just drank wine.
You have to actually wash and bench. you
have to actually have bread at least a
kazas
and then he could have benched for them
but a a cup of wine he couldn't okay
leaving aside the whole story and the
and the the unbelievable implications of
it so we know pasan that in theory you
could bench for somebody in theory you
could even though you never ate because
you don't have an obligation anymore but
you can still be why cuz
so in number 19 which I'm not going to
read the whole thing inside he asked Ask
a question. They ask a question. Really?
Somebody who ate a kazas
is only obligated midon
who's obligated menra
>> if you eat.
So yana and schlomion have eaten a full
meal there and sh. So how does it help
if he has a kazayas? What does it help?
He's daon and they're a dissera. Surely
that doesn't work. Everybody knows the
first thing they teaches you if you're
on a lower level you can't be and he
says no the only reason he needs to eat
that kazas is so he can say
that he can actually say the words but
really he doesn't even need a kaz
because the mechanism here is not that
I'm it's
z really I don't need to eat at all the
only reason he's eating there is to give
him the ability to actually say the
words and therefore
says posters, you really could do any
mitzvah for somebody else. Uh even
though you're not obligated in that
mitzvah directly now yourself. Fine.
>> By the way, were they only two only two
men or what? Was it a third man?
>> Oh, that's an interesting question. I
assume that there was someone else there
that couldn't bench. I mean, yeah, the
king and the queen must have had a few
servants. They brought in the sham.
Nice. Nice question. You're going to say
counted her for the zimmon. Okay, fine.
I'm not I'm not getting I'm not getting
into that. Okay, which raises the
fantastic
question. But what is the obligation of
women in this whole discussion which is
kind of what you were alluding to which
I want to finish with and and deal with
as well because there's a side issue
there's a separate question raised in
the Gmoran in number 20 which is what is
the obligation of women to bench do we
say okay
so you're a man you're a woman you eat
you fall and you bench or do we say no
if you have a in the land then you have
a full obligation to bench but if you
don't have aik in the land then it's not
clear whether you have an obligation to
bench and women usually you know but not
slok unusual circumstances you women
didn't have in the land so maybe women
are not obligated in benching so comes
along the rush and says okay so if women
are draon
and men are definitely diter women are
sophic dera but definitely draon you
can't have a dabon and be moy ditaer so
women can't bench for men ah Ah, what
happened to Israelim?
Didn't we just say it doesn't matter if
you're It doesn't matter if you didn't
eat anything. We only make you eat
something so you can say, "So why why
are women different?" And the and I must
tell you, draw your attention to this.
The rash comes in with a line here that
caused 600 years of um tumults if you
like where he says then he says at the
end of number 21, the reason it's
different here is
Women are not included in
there. They can be raon but not at dasa.
What does he mean? Women are not
included in arvas. What have we seen so
far to indicate that women are not
included in arvas? The brits are women
weren't in the brid. No, it says it says
explicitly that women were standing
there in the brid. Everybody was there.
So what did he mean? So there are some
before that say no no no no don't don't
get in a tizzy here he just means that
women are not included in arvas in
mitzvah that they're not definitely
obligated in which makes perfect sense
rabba a says this which is that okay
women are included in arvas with let's
say matzah because women and men have
the same obligation to eat matzah not
with suka not with lulv and estra
because women don't have the same
obligation but he's not saying women are
not obligated at all in our verse he's
just saying there are mitzvah which
people have different obligations But
others said no other than not behood
wanted to say that women were not
obligated in Arabus at all. And
everyone's tying themselves in knots to
try and work out why would there be any
difference to women. When does this come
up? Almost every single Friday night.
Okay. Man goes to shul comes to Davin's
marav comes home. Women sometimes go to
shul but they sometimes don't go to
shul. So he comes home and he's going to
make kdish.
>> So how can he make kdish? because he
already davened and he said in in during
daving hashemadesh
which on a Torah level is good enough to
be yodz the mitzvah let's assume for now
his wife didn't dare if she did then
obviously it's not a question so he's
now a dabon he has to make on a kay but
she's a dissera she has a mitzvah for
dais to make kdish that's everyone
agrees on so how can he make kdish for
her maybe she can make kdish maybe she
should make kdish for him
>> because she's dissera and
So have a look at number 22 says the
women are obligated in kdishma
even though it's technically a a
positive time mitzvah
because come as a as a package
and these women
since they're obligated fully in all the
negative mitzvah of
they're obligated also in all the
positive
and a Woman can be a man in kdish
since their obligation is the same.
Women can make kdish for men, men can
make kdish for women. Very nice. We
still haven't answered by the way our
question of the man on on Friday night
dabon and woman is right. So we'll get
there in a second. But is can she even
make kdish for men if she's already made
kdish? And that's going to be the litmus
test because is do we really say
she made kdish? Some man comes in from
the street. I didn't make Kdish yet. She
goes, "No problem. I'll make Kdish for
you as well." Why? So have a look at
number 23 says,
"And therefore
even if she's made she can
just like a man
because they're absolutely the same." So
there so the the Mishna Bur are clearly
Pascans that that women are included in
Araver because they're included in the
mitzvah and Krama Zel and therefore she
can make kdish for him even if she
already made kdish and this mitzvah
affects all of us and therefore for the
vast majority of mitzvah I brought you
the very end here the magav the mag says
that if you have just enough oil on on
kaneka to light the kaneka lights and
your friend doesn't have any so you
should light one light every night like
the basic mitzvah and give him enough
oil or her enough oil so they can light.
You want to be a mahadin? Well, they're
not doing the mitzvah at all. That's not
how it works. Israel
is raz.
And therefore, we've seen today a lot of
things. We've seen the the whole idea
coming in from a Brit
and her grem. We've seen applications of
it that go, you know, on many many
levels reverberate through the
community. And I think like I said
before and you can do with this whatever
you feel is appropriate. Um the the idea
that we uh and complain about other
people I think is sin. Watch out for the
yud at the end of the um that we about
people's behavior may or may not be
justified but that we take a
responsibility to do what we can to
help. That's where we're meant to be
doing it. And therefore please God we
should have that opportunity. We should
regroup in September. We're having a few
weeks off but we'll let you know when
things start up again. Rabbi Shaw is
here to make a an announcement. Thank
you, Rabbi Shaw. And thank you
everybody. Uh wish everybody a uh a
meaningful fast and g