Aviva & Eliyahu! In depth discussion of Jewish Sacred Space with Meir Kolko (Unity Litt)

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off this was one of them like to get it started took double I mean you guys started the live and didn't accept and then I started and didn't you have been accepted or have been answered okaying amazing yay I love the subtle metal mellow Vibes behind you guys right there it's like mellow nice see what's going on it's pretty awesome here one second okay oh wow got some art you got some lighting it's all tricked out I I likees Good Vibes uh so I'm here I'm actually at home and uh I was wanted to get on the live with you for a while um hear more about what you guys are up to and um I have a a list somewhere of bio of you guys hold on one second I know a lot about you off hand but I want to see if I go off this live does anyone know let's see in the comments sections if you go I haven't really done lives so this is my like first live welcome to my live um the Bio Section if I go to look at that right of that will this shut off actually what do you think I don't think it's worth risking it okay you go one second I want to see what happens one second it didn't go off we're still there okay I made we're still there there we lost you we loost them I'm still here I'm still here I'm going to check something I'll be back in exactly 10 seconds okay okay we're still here all right I am back I have arrived back here we are wait so that did work yeah I was able to go off and come back on and it worked all right um yo okay amazing so the uh you guys I know that you have a a warm house and you have people over and you do a bunch of amazing things that you guys have been working on um a via and Ellie both I know that you are you are a teacher you're you're an artist um you're guide a spiritual guide you got so much going on like in terms of like you're from Kass to Massachusetts Brooklyn um I think art combined with all the things you've been doing um wow you've done a lot of art um in terms of and Casas and and just so much to offer people in terms of knowledge and um Ellie I know you a while as well as you you you put some amazing music something that people don't really know um there's a song that I've heard in Israel sung by like you have a walking through the M arm like Friday night I'm walking and um you have the song going in the background and you know a lot of people don't necessarily know this about the song but you composed like that's your your composition and the one there's there there's two of them there's one that goes with the old song okay that's a regular song mine is but they also sing that by they go they fade into each other actually those two songs and um and I've heard them countless times both of them sung by everybody and few people know that you actually composed that one I don't think many people know that right um it's incredible and um the fact that you guys are joining forag I think is going to lend an incredible amount of like U just good energy Positive Vibes and also spiritual um the energy that you bring is very unique and in terms of community and all that you know what we're doing at Unity um do you guys do you understand what it's all about doing it Unity we I heard you talk about it but maybe our viewers want to hear just again a little little recap so we're creating a a space that's spiritual and fun for being at a place in our lives because monor is yearly event it's not like you know happened in the past it did but we also as Jewish people celebrate it yearly and I find that for myself and other people it's not necessarily the place I want to be when it comes to hog like at mon Torah lot times like I'm distracted and like I won't learn all night as when I grow in my youth and all that stuff but if there was a place that is come as you are and had all the elements from spiritual to food and everything taken care of then um I would show up and especially if there was energy there that makes how can I experience the experience of being at Haren where I am right now because that's what it is the early experience for Jewish people as you experience mon Taurus so that's one of the main things and it's the main part is that it's fun it's something that you can actually relate to versus just an idea that happened thousands of years ago but I don't relate really um so that's the sense what we're doing here is we're creating a space for people to enjoy hog where they're at um it's spiritual it's kosher there's but at the same time some people are keeping F fhog some people are not it's a very much uni unification of all different parts of Judaism different peoples coming from different directions all celebrating the same thing um the giving monor in a fun way and in a unique way that youly find anywhere else that's as far as I understood it doesn't exist that's why we're trying to create that space it's beautiful and I feel like it also has a lot to do with mat Tor itself because right the the the you know every there's I think what did they say 600,000 shamas Al together something um and every has a letter in the Torah so um really really the Torah as a whole is bringing all the nas together is is is really actually inclusive in the ultimate sense the ultimate sense the ultimate thing of what M I mean you know what you know what the thing is by the way that we need to prepare ourselves for it and the way we prepare ourselves for it is one one person with one heart um so that's that's really what it is we're all a part of this thing you know and there's many different types many different colors you know all beautiful and all radiant and all just as much needed yeah so that K you know being one heart um a Unity factor which is Hashem really is a unifying factor of everything you can call it the higher power you can call it Bedrock of reality which Bedrock is itself is a creation and godliness is beyond that in a way in terms of I'm talking about Essence that's that's calistic stuff but in terms of we are as people is that connecting to another person um the the term of Hava in in love generally is in from judic sources is more about giving you're you're creating what can I actually give to this other person it's not what you take Taking is to give generally so what we're formulating is an event that yes there's certain you know people are contributing to it but the giving aspect trying to create a space that people can actually be themselves enjoy an environment and feel comfortable while yet choosing what they want to do over hog is something that um we do our daily life we're living our life literally every day under the opes of reality we have a Shem in our lives to an extent whatever we have and Sh is just um place where we can actually get in touch with ourselves and notice that we every day we're experiencing godliness and every day we're doing good things and kind of in a communial sense connect to spirituality but also in a very fun and engaging way so what you're talking about you know coming together as people for um to spend it together and a sense of community where you whatever you'd like to get out of it whatever your mindset coming is is something you'll be able to get something out of it and you might be surprised with certain things that you didn't necessarily know that you're going to get but it's actually very positive experience so um I'm just focusing on that words that you said is um that resonates deeply with me yeah and uh in terms of community that I I know you guys you started to build um a sense of community and you have people that spend time at your home and you do um different work with people to benefit them um what what is what is that that you're doing what is it that you guys focus in on um and how do you go about benefiting people and adding value and and amazing parts to their lives what are you guys up to what are you do I just love how you ask that question because that's really what it is we are I always say we're a community for the people we're for the people um so Jewish Sacred Space was developed by me yahu pretty much as soon as we got married a few months after we got married um because we didn't really feel that we had Community to be a part of I do want to give a shout out to because they they had me for years and I was a part of their Community for years but um then we moved away from Crown Heights and it became more and more clear when we moved to Newberg we were very isolated and then moving to man and Pomona um we were we really just were feeling isolated even in Pomona where there's so many Jewish people we couldn't find our Jewish people people um and this this uh sort of like problem for me personally started back in high school I I never really felt like I belonged or like I felt I didn't feel Kindred Spirits uh within J Judaism and it actually caused me to go off the D as they say for a decade um because if I was only just accepted and loved for my uniqueness as an arti artist and for my freedom of expression if my freedom of expression was accepted and loved you know life would have been different for me but um Hashem showed me that within Orthodox communities there was no place for 100% unconditional love and acceptance there was only judgment and it was extremely hurtful and shameful and I didn't want to have anything to do with it and so I spent a decade and going from kab which is a mystical tradition to being totally secular was the most depressing time of my life and that was lasted only one year before I realized this isn't going to work and that's when I started this decade long journey into many different religions looking for a spiritual path and it took me a decade and I never really expected to be hoser boua because I knew something was missing from me in Judaism as I experienced it um and so I had to sort of bring the modalities that I learned in these other religions all basically learning how to be in the body and that's what was missing for me in Judaism is how to be experience life in my body not in my mind for me the Jewish experience was an exper I was living up here and was extremely anxiety-provoking and I just I wasn't happy I didn't I didn't like living up here so that was that decad long journey and that was my journey through all these different religions but then of course Hashem guides you home and barem guided me home and I realized the reason I had to do that was to incorporate these skills that I learned um about the breath and about breath work back into yish kite that's the short of it wow so you're saying that basically you had experiences in your life that led to you coming to the point that you were able to realize something that was beneficial to you meaning you has many there's sh there's SE many ways to approach godliness and you realize there was a missing aspect one is from the love part mean just acceptance where you feel the love and you're accepted for who you are and then also in y everyone has an nuda so you found the one that it actually helps you go ahead and live your life better and also you bring that to other people you're offering something that people may not know about that that's part of yish Kai too that is something that is not necess separate because it's being filtered through your kabad tradition through judism that you learned things you learned through your Journeys and brought to a way that's tangible and palpable to go and bring it into your day your daily practice that can benefit um anybody who's who's seeking meaning that wants to benefit from that um that breath work so I I haven't that much bre I'm actually excited I've done a little bit of breath work but to see what what that entails because it sounds like something deep and generated by you personally it's a very personal experience that you're letting other people attach to and learn about and then go ahead and use that for them s to benefit benefit their life um and have a much better experience emotionally um and cognitively but it's it's um that's wow that's very nice that that's I'm glad I'm glad we're going to get to experience that that's exciting yeah and like we me mentioned today we talked before this live um I do think that indigenous Temple practice Jewish temple practice the base of mkes I believe that it was a lot more of an embodied experience than Judaism as it is today and I think that you know when we think about entering the base of mikdash we are senses were probably overwhelmed because there was gorgeous tapestries gorgeous Linens and wools and silks of all different colors and then you had the kores going so you had this like crazy aromatic SP headyy spice blend that was engaging your nose so a lot of different things that were keeping you in your body and grounded in your body and then I my theory and I believe this to be true is that over the year so many years of persecution what happened is that Judaism was not safe safely able to be expressed in a physical tangible grounded way and Jews are so that they figured okay if we want our religion to survive throughout time we need to figure out a way to pass it from you know father to son verbally and so it basically made J Judaism be a thing that lives in the mind and is passed down through the Mind from father to son right not not necessarily mother to daughter but father to son and it has survived so thank God it's survived and we're one of the oldest religions but what has survived what has survived and me and El yahu are looking at that closely what has survived and how much Dogma has been laid on and the Torah and the Torah we all know has such deep deep Treasures but now it's all jumbled up with a lot of dogma and we're trying to strip away that Dogma from the truth from the MS of the Torah so it's very exciting work it really really is so as a Ley from the tribe of Levi um I internalize what you're saying because um my manora for instance is something that my dad curated for me he created it I figured to flip the screen without showing it it's just sitting right there that is a car manura with my name on it with beams of light coming at that says the light of a Mitzvah that the basically you want to know how to it's basically format taking a concept that's very abstract and turning it into um something that is very much um real because every time I L my manora on kanuka it's something that my dad made for me physical art that is a hsh it's going back to the base of M there was a monora there you're connected to the past your name means something and just figure it out every time you think about it as a meditation so the parts of of Judaism that are not talked about so much or in practice um I find that a lot of people are not knowing all the details or focusing on specific details and leaving us other parts of it to the Wayside kind of like choose and pick and or kind of like what about this other whole part what about this whole other part when it comes um other like people are focused on one but not necessarily everything else so I think what you guys are doing is amazing that you're going back to part of something that um Jewish meditation is is profound if you go into like R aats I'm sure you probably read some of this stuff and um there is so much depth to of Judaism and a big part of that is the meditative part meaning teila the Ana the the rabbis from back in the day who still had some sort of prophetic they were able to um be able to concretize certain Concepts into meditation that lead to other states of of being if you pray properly and you internalize the words like a mantra they affect emotional state exactly what you're saying they affect your body and you feel different after you're done so there's something very real about um um teila in general and Mantra like being able to do breath work and being able to put yourself in a head space that opens up um from a constricted like mind space like where you're like not able to be emotionally okay to then go ahead and open that up to expansiveness and it sounds like that's what what you're doing is like taking a lot of the elements that people don't really F focus in on there's a lot of anxiety there's a lot of things in society that especially when it comes to Judaism parts of it people get anxious about really being able to like Cal C everything down through a methodology that you've developed by yourself obviously you've had a lot of teachers and you have things that you you've learned from but something you internalized and you're youve creating a space where you can teach um a lot of parts of Judaism that not necessar focused on so much that's what it sounds like yeah and just to be really real with you you know there we are an inclusive community which means that there's no part of me that for example is um whatever like not accept someone into our home who covers her hair and at the same time you know someone who doesn't should be fully accepted into our community you know alah should be able to take off his yamaka and he should be able to hear words of Torah come out of his mouth the same as if the yamama goes on and Judaism has somehow become so superficial and it's just at the same time I'm not saying that I'm renewal I'm not I'm observant and I have such a r for H so it's like I think that's what unites Us in doing this together I feel that you have this unconditional love and acceptance um with who you want coming to this Retreat and at the same time there's a h standard so we're pushing that we're pushing the the boundaries in a very big way because Orthodoxy has kind of stopped short of asking the question of like what is the Hal in modern day it because it stopped it halted by the Holocaust the H process halted so now we're re-engaging in it and we're having agency in that H process so I hear what you're saying about the transition of time where we had a a very big traumatic experience as a whole nation literally we' not even back to that it's a whole different thing times we living in a kind of profound we're not even back to the point of before World War II um if that's what you're referring to and did affect a lot of things and um one of those traumatic experience of people going to a new land and all that which affected the way people practice a lot of people were hurt physically or emotionally it's very hard to go into the Next Generation and not have some emotional trauma like that um there's a lot of different aspects but what was kind of left I I from understanding a little about what you're saying is that through the process of the generational a lot of the children we're talking about we're talking about eight million Jews in America that would have been connected to some sort of Judaism or some level of spirituality that comes from the source of Juda like when I say Judaism I'm talking about the teachings that are given generational we going back to harena me we have knowledge that is thousands of years old contained within us as people if you're studying and the books and if you're asking somebody that they can if you're seeking you will find knowledge um but what you're saying of the Hal aspect that something's got focused in so focused in on so much that other parts fell by the wayside and it's not really talk about or focused in as much and if we go back to the basics go back to what it means to be connected to higher power what it means to go throughout your day with that knowledge and to do actionable steps in your day that benefit yourself obviously because we're here to do for ourselves but to also work on what is taken all along which is not necessarily meaning let's go fix the atmosphere or fix um you know physical buildings it's also very much what you were saying um El before but but under a being able to step into the other person's shoes empathy for what they're going through being able to experience them for who they are not who I perceive them as I never asked the question of hey who are you um those kind of aspects and being able to connect to someone on that way and then see what kind of experience would actually benefit them because some people are totally turned off to going to sh because as a child they were forced to do that they don't want to be seen and Sh but if there's something musical going nearby they'll be drawn to us it because it's spiritual enging and it's positive mean it's a positive you can wear whatever you want you can wear a shorts you can wear a t-shirt you can wear a suit you whatever you choose whatever you're you know you don't have to come a certain way um point is that the each part of I guess a spiritual engagement um some people don't know much about it because they just not study anything related to spirituality or Judaism and some people have trauma with it so on all angles the people that have come to our event I'm standing I'm so much probably your house is that some people never really experienced an actual spiritual what it means to sit down at a table with no phones out right to be connected to other people be present because you're honing in on yourself and some people have experience that no why you can't do that stop stop everything was just you can't do you can't do as a child so they're wanting to pull their phone out because why not there's no spiritual connect it's an emotional trauma but there real no one else is doing here around me let me find out why what are we all doing here so all people are accepted on meaning I'm assuming by you as well is that correct meaning anyone who who wants to um uh I guess take from what you're offering in terms of nurturing certain part of uh a person that um may not had the experience of closing down getting into the Mind breath work getting out of your mind actually and getting I I I didn't get experience I really can't say what it is but getting into another state without having to take a substance necessarily without having to go anywhere else other than themselves and find the an so to speak within themselves meaning getting able getting to a point that they're able to um connect profoundly to themselves and and if not Divinity but that's a different that's a side once you connected to yourself somewhat you are able to connect to Divinity as well which is another con I mean that's probably much more deeper conversation but um so that that's amazing that you you you've done that work you've gone through the processes of of of working on yourself to that point and you have that to offer to people and I found that amazing and also that you guys are doing as a team that's that's also exceptional as like you have different energies I know both of you from you know and you bring together a Synergy of energy which I'm I'm looking forward to seeing it's um like Shalom bias I we always say like that's the most important thing because first of all it's shom Bas is important but in our work it's important people are so touched by you know the conscious relationship that we work so hard to make sure is conscious all the time um and I also just wanted to say like when did Judaism become a place that's not artist friendly like when did it become shut down to creative expression when did we get scared of faces you know looking at faces like when did the fear start creeping in and um I guess that's the main thing that I want is is a like a place that people can feel free to express themselves creatively you know so I agree on that in terms of artistic expression it's it's incredible um certain places um have incred of art some have none at all and if you go into art some place are like no that's wasting time don't do that like you should be doing something else than that but um just from in children and and seeing certain people that do work with ch like like it's called K meaning giving people the ability to grow in their own personal potential um it's huge to be able to take what you're good at and your innate skills or things you appreciate and go and use that to elevate and art is a big part of that taking art and using that to elevate situations um and express yourself and give an environment that that's that's one of the main things I do personally in my life is I create art for events that are weddings bids all that stuff and that's a huge part I think of of Judaism and yeah I think feel that some way it's been left on the way side for a lot um we do have pathora of art within Judaism dating back to the Bas of the way it was created even salon's Temple was incredible it was the epicenter of an edifice of art at that time and and doesn't exist in the form right now but it was beautiful so I totally agree on that that's amazing that um that you see it that way and um yeah I'm wondering uh if there's any artists out there that actually is a plug right now any artists that actually want to showcase what they're doing that they love doing in their own way they're welcome to bring their art and we can display it at the event either in the dining area and or outside if it's waterproof so feel free to curate something or or create something um because that expression of your personal connection to Arena or or connection to other people or there something you want to get out there to get to see um feel free to create art yeah that's beautiful so El in terms of of Music um I've seen you in action and you get into this like it's like you're literally in the music when you sing um it's your energy go you you feel the energy in the music and I've experienced that um what do what is that like how does that how do you like when you're doing it what's the feeling like what are you what are you feeling when you do that it's like um it's just for I can tell you what I'm feeling like the energy that comes over is fire it's like an energy in a good way not in a bad like it just you know how like you take a a match and you Rite another match with it you didn't really take anything away from the first match but the second one's lit so I feel the energy and like it just it's just absorbed and it that makes me want to be in that same SP also which was ever which was what I'm thinking is that it's he's like literally meditating while he's singing is is that correct or yeah well I I'd say like for me it's it's you know I've been notorious for um not always taking requests and there's a reason for that because my my nature is that I can't really sing what isn't authentic to me so like I'm I'm I when I'm when I'm singing I I'm I'm singing My Truth you know even though it's somebody else's song it's somebody else's words but it's it's something that resonates with me I I can only see what resonates you know I'm not I'm not the guy that goes to a gig anymore and I'm like I'm like their jukebox you know this song can you do this one can you do that one um I I I really have a very um strong connection to the songs to the to the prayers that I pray to me it's prayer it's not just song um I I I'll really feel out I think about it like I I'll sing I'll sing a and I'll sing the words and people get into it then I'll stop the song in the middle and and say like a thought that just came to my mind with you know about about these words that we're singing Whatever it is whatever it might be and you know because I'm I'm really trying to channel that I'm really trying to channel prayer with these with these words um it's it's not always the case I I I don't always feel that um are many though that that really that do sing authentically but it's not something that I always that I that I always feel and I think that's what that's what you might be sensing is kind of unique so um it used to also be uh something which was as you said fire so there there could there could be a fire that you know there could be a fire that destroys there could be a fire that builds there could be a fire that you know that that myish lights people on fire that that that creates light creates meaning and um as I'm getting into that fire into that light it can it can also happen that that fire of destructiveness can kind of creep in and it's like someone is if the if if if let's say people are talking or this or that if there's a little you know I I used to have this very strong reaction to that I would try to hold myself back and try to be whatever you know but that's something that I have to work on over time because again there really is a fire there there's a fire of of T and it's it is um that is also something to be noted and and and to be and to be wary of like I did I did sense this a lot like with you know growing up people that I you know whether it was family or people that I saw saw that doin lets it with a certain intensity but that intensity is also orderline it's like very close to anger as well in an instant they could turn to anger um and that takes a lot of self-awareness and whatever I've been I'm saying I've just been I've just been on this journey for a very long time and finding that Within Myself finding you know how do how to kind of how to kind of sing and pray with heart but also at the same time sort of like sort of like I need to be it needs to be with heart and without heart at the same time because if you're too in it oh my God you know so it's like sort of watching myself do it some way but yeah yeah it really is an experience I don't I've said a lot but yeah yeah so many many years so there justy it's a journey of expression of I mean getting know yourself and then also how you when you're singing different times and as you grow over time and like how you express andila is incredible the Fire part of you know could be creative constructive I mean it could be used to warm something the food or it could be used to destroy it could burn something down and um and interesting how at something called burning man right The Duda of all this started at Burning Man basically before 2020 before covid right so it's uh it's a fire event they burn a man Effigy at the end and also there's a bunch of propane canisters shooting everywhere and like um in TOA there's not much TOA per se going on there there are meditation Doms with a lot of meditation going on and there are a lot of spiritual kind things but um the thing that I got of it was that fire as um en is honed and pointed a direction can create so much positivity if it's just channeled it just has to be done the right like channel the energies so what that did to me is based on some other you know people have learned under and taught me different things that just do the next good thing with that how do I go ahead and manifest you know experience where um out in the desert with all these different people turn into something positive where something spiritual will come out of it I didn't know at the time it would happen when I shama had Sunrise there was like oh wish should connect to God right now it's a manra shama if you think about it and that caused the outcome later it just burst into existence manifested itself that oh I should put put some people together kind of like that experience of community but make it real meaning let people experience a sense of community for AOG that they feel like they belong feel connected and the energy is one of constructive fire energy where it's you're using the energy to form do something positive you're cooking food you're elevating the situation you're creating energy um that's positive and has an ultimate purpose versus just a party where parties are fun and we're making a party that's what this this is going to be fun at the same time it's a thought out logistical thing behind it to go ahead and create something that energy-wise uplifts it's not like the end of the night when you're ready to go home and like H like I have to go back to my room now it's like you don't want to go back back to go to sleep because you rather just hang out these people to the bonfire seeing these nunam with these Tes or like um happens to be cheesecake or or food wherever you like everything take you could just Vibe out and have that place if you didn't have that growing up in a positive environment at a at a sud a meal on you have it here with other people if you didn't have it a sh experience if you never had it um this positive vibe or you experienced it or it here it is you can be there or not you could choose you're an adult um just using um our personal energies in a way that benefits other people and that's really what this is all about ultimately it's when we do things that are first self and to pull out whatever we can from something we're taking when we do things where we're creating spaces for people to be their best self and give the opportunity just to have fun and just chill then we're creating um I guess godliness because that's the point we're supposed to build the world we're supposed to go ahead and use our personal energies our potentials what we can do to go ahead and benefit other people so that's what sh is to me is like how else do I celebrate mon Torah it's a time where how's my relationship with go what I celebrate it by creating space that I would appreciate to be at for Shu so I'm understanding that you're much about that in terms of what you're creating kasti is you're creating a space that people can go ahead be themselves tune into themselves but also just exist and Elevate and I think that's what you're um what you guys are doing is you're trying to elevate people and and I'm on board for that so that's that's really it's really nice yeah yeah all right so so it was so you're saying it was really a trip to burning men that conceived this whole idea yeah actually because I Bally I went to burning man um in 2019 and I was there to explore because I'm an artist and there's crazy amount of art installation that people spend their entire year trying to build like literally in their garage they're building art cars that cost them like 20K of materials that they spent all their hours building on so they can go ahead and drive this thing around for a week in the desert and have other people hop on and off and have a party with them they'll give them a bear or a bottle of booze or or like or something and they'll just like hang out with them on their art car and the people get on and off and they meet people they core friend higs out they're part of a camp but like that's just one thing people are building entire camps and it comes and goes in a matter of a month totally built and then do appear us entirely um kind of like you know back to chaos it's like literally worshiping the cycle of like we're here we're not here and things just go and don't exist and then exist and not exist not for a reason necessarily but we're humans and we can do this let's do it but not really for a cause the cause is Art music comes out of that the music comes out of art really so it's the Music is More melodic and very like there's all types of music but the the genre is interesting to listen to a lot of different International music beats in it um different instruments but the the idea of of the festival is that there's a sense of community they build uh an effigy that they Camp around very much so like the Jews in the desert so much so that when I came home to my mom who is grew up Orthodox background and she's like um so you just went to the igaz in the desert with the AR Rob I'm like whoa talking about judgment right but that's that's her experience of it because she saw some footage she like oh that's what it looks like to me because that's her upbringing and like meaning what she was saying to me is like I don't appr proove of this one that's the first thing she's saying and second she's saying like huh I'm connecting to something but it might have been her who actually put me on the trip is like huh so what does that even mean who would they so brings up thoughts in my mind who the people she's describing were in history like but uh it did something else for myself when I was sitting on my bed at Tish abov on that summer of 2020 right after and I'm I'm thinking like hey what's up what am I doing the summer I'm I'm staying homework I want be the whole crazy trip about the the co thing like I don't want to go out to hurt my parents like so like I'm basically um segregating myself because of all the crazy things that are going all the media it's being fed to me I'm like sitting a little depressed on my bed I'm like what could I do that benefits people and it's the summer of 2020 like I'm not really connected I'm used to events I'm in the event production industry I'm running around I'm connecting with people socializing and I feed off that um introvert extrovert and um basically I'm not a to do that now so I'm starting to get sad and sadness when you get sad a lot of time is the concept of IM like there's literally the Torah says about the aspect of godliness is that don't think that God's far from you when you're in a sad depressive State you're in a tar you're constricted there's a way to get out of that there's a way to expand yourself there's a pic that says I I call at you from the depths answer me with expansiveness it means tar literally and answer me Wasa like expansiveness so what that started a process was that I formed a logo of 12 people in a circle which also represented the sun which also was a like a fesal thought like um I didn't know what I was going to do with it um and the concept Unity because I set sha at Sunrise because when everything was I was at burningman and I'm in an environment where I I asked myself a question it's like hey where you at like it's shabas it's Sunrise it's burningman where are you like n as they say in in in the and where are you you so like talking yourself um and I just covered my eyes as the sun of rose and said Shaman everything faded away kind of like that meditation state where you just go above the environment and that led me to a point it's like hey how come I could do this here too I don't have to be there anywhere I could do this where I am right now present I'm present here now so that launched later when I was creating the logo it was a few it was a year almost a summer later already but 2020 I created a logo and it was Unity aspect of shama that's the aspect of unity connectivity which is a connectivity of God and divine but also people because the people around it it also a sun because if you think about the Sun and you ask someone who's an atheist what is the Sun or agnostic they'll say it's a fusion bombing space if you ask ask an ancient Egyptian what is the son they'll refer to it as a god they say that's something that's a God and to them that's a cognant system of systems of Mazo star systems whatever zodiac they're able to say that that's if you talk to um somebody who studied some of um that more depth you'd get to the sun is the fusion bomb possibly but there's a light behind that and the radiation comes from when you think about that higher point the radiation on your face becomes more not just a physical sense but you start to have a light in your mind so that was the starting point of this is that I should do something that I will create an environment that people can be at where I throw like I'm going to go create this and I'm going to spend my time and energies on it and whoever want to benefit off it can benefit off of it so that's that's the connection to doing the next good thing trying to be um a giver and create an environment that I would appreciate and likely other people would appreciate too for a lot of different factors so that's the the burner aspect of this and yeah fire is a big thing that's why I brought it up and um you know that's um a big part of I'm drawn towards it I don't know why I'm drawn I'm drawn towards fire I am yeah um yeah so that's one aspect um so I'm I'm excited that you guys are on board for for Shu it's going to be absolutely epic and we have so many things come we have the amount of musicians and and and a couple just more G DJs are joining up in other other spiritual um so people who are going to contribute a vast amount of of fun and and uh engaging classes actually some people come along to do that as well um it's going to be absolutely amazing and I'm so happy you guys are on board for it and uh yeah this is exciting um as a like I know you've been to some before um it's starting to get a little more formed up and organized and I'm so happy that you guys are coming back and this is great news it's absolutely epic yeah we're really really really grateful to you for thinking of us and just like emotionally I'm just touched because as I said it's so rare to find a community where there's true acceptance and I feel that from you and that's everything it's really everything for us it is we are like an island here more and more On The Fringe you know we're more and more like Counter Culture yeah just we're just very much our own thing I mean you know more recently I've just been more colorful and just been more free with what I post on social media I mean like videos of my wife and I singing I mean like you know for somebody czy right there somebody who's like in the very firm world as a singer so obviously because of that I'm more out of the scene but I I didn't want to be untrue and be in the scene like it's just not worth it for me so I'm really committed to the work that we're doing together yeah we're we're Paving a new way and um we have some opposition but as they say you know that's how you know you're doing something so I'm like oh great okay so now I got the message we're doing something because we got to be careful because you know people that are in the old way take it as antagonistic it's not really antagonistic really like people come to our house we have very sweet little kumit you know we're singing We're breathing there's nothing feel like yeah people people feel it as a may maybe even as a threat or something to their to their way of life or something which we're not threatening anybody in any kind of way of course we're accepting of whatever it is we're a nice sweet couple yeah but but the thing is what what I feel actually is I think that there are many people that have at one time or another dream their imagin of something something different you know like is this all there is you know everybody knows I don't know where you're going to the same show you're hearing the same style you know sheer lecture or or or daving or whatever it is there a little variations but like you know where are we actually going where where are we taking this where are we taking this and I think that many people have dreamed of it at some time or have had such a thought at some time but they're like ah whatever but but for my community or for my wife or for my husband usand or whatever you know me really yes I'm colorful but I don't do it because whatever reason right and I realiz that I was this way too I I still am actually to some degree um and it's the part of us that makes us small yeah it's and and and and and that that kind of feeling like lingers and you see somebody else who's just deciding to be a little bit more like creative more open a little more more bold if you will actually then like that that old that feeling it creeps up there's something inside of them that like they they can't stand it because there some there it's almost like a like like an insecurity I don't know what it is but but I mean people know know that that this is what they want they they they can't see it though they can't they can't face up there not I don't blame them because I I couldn't for a long time so we know that this is not it's not it's it's not the Messiah way when we just keep on doing things over and over by route and you know just keep on doing the same things and like I I'm just I want this to go bigger and broader what you're doing what we're doing doing I I want it to be bigger and broader because you know I I just I it never resonated with me really that um God is here just for the Jewish people what always resonated for me is God is there for the world and we may be the messenger is we may be at the top of the whatever it is the top of the chain whatever but I'm saying God is here for the world there's no doubt God created The World God is coming back for the world um we initially come from Abraham that's that's that's really initially the Jewish Nation comes from and and Abraham is chosen because Abraham is giving is is inviting the world to see you know um things got more touchy after that got more got more complicated after that but in my heart I'm going back to Aram I want to be I want to be more like that more open more inviting um and just showing people the light showing myself the light I see the light through others that's beautiful and what you're saying is is Not Like A New Path necessarily of existence because what you're saying is actually all Concepts that I've heard before in different ways um it's amazing that there's many ways to do things and the approach of knowing that just the words that we say in the morning of mod an which means I the process is just we're saying that go God wants me here present and everybody who's in the world for whatever reason God wants them here present the universe is AOG system like an engine different gear is doing different things but that one part it's not functioning so something are painful and some things are joyous and some things are very positive experiences some seem seem negative but overall all the experiences are part of like so what you're saying is yeah the world should we don't try to convert people we're not just we're trying to say you could be exactly who you are we accept you just do that keep doing what you're doing do that good thing um we have more responsibility now because we're supposed to actually literally hold the world out that's the job of every every Jew every person in the world we're supposed to be building the world together as a team that's what ideally what's supposed to be going on and unfortunately we don't see that all the time we see people going back to their personal interests of their own desires or their own um part or whatever it is that they're not able to see the other person and help them build rather take see what I can take so going back to that is that your saying that you're trying to do the next good thing and uplift people regardless meaning just build the world and and and help people and there's not one way to do that because there's so many facets um different ways you can be beneficial and help people so I say that Kudos that you're doing good it's nice it's nice to see people doing good work and and taking the effort one to work on yourself that lifetime of working on self which obviously if you're trying to do good for other people in Elevate situations you have to work on yourself it's just not going to happen unless and then take that whatever you do learn and translate it over to how can I benefit the next person so um it's absolutely epic that you're taking the time to do that and you're settling you're actually building your lives around that and it's incredible to see you thank you so much thanks for seeing us and um I do wanna I I wanna like kind of get my kids up to bed and stuff but I'd love to just send everyone off with with a little sampler of Jewish Sacred Space if you will that sound good sure it sounds actually I was looking forward to this part so yeah okay great so everyone can just get into their body and into their breathing and we'll do a song together you could like move your or however you need personally I feel like you know I've been sitting well so I'm just stretching and smiling I always say smiling is a symbol that we we are our own best friends it's a reminder to be our own best friend sure yeah this is a really nice um song uh those really gr sh Alma is it Al it might be from Alma actually yeah it's one of those new Israeli groups putting out good music I don't know but if but you can always message us after and we'll the name is just skipping skipping our minds but I'm happy to find out what that name is [Music] of to [Music] [Laughter] more a [Music] are [Music] shall love healing [Music] [Laughter] [Music] Al [Music] Mery adore [Music] all I need [Music] for there are h [Music] and now that you soak in that vibration so I felt that Timeless it's ENT we like we like to also sometimes I do it even more I like to take a little breath in the middle of a song which is kind of a unique thing to do usually you keep going you know the Rhythm demands that you gotta but we like that concept it brings us more you know it helps us get back into the body get back into Consciousness yeah we're building space it through the song so like that's the difference between this and singing it in the kumit we're bringing more Consciousness to the process of singing and more breath to the process of singing and you're using Timeless words um connected to Divinity but it's it's a meditative state of breath work that combines the two um I felt more I felt the energy is more than like you could listen to people sing and you were in like in the music was one the same it's incredible exactly exactly exactly that's the groundedness of you know that's what it means to be grounded you're not in a story about things that are happening as they're happening you're actually in them as they're happening and that's the practice I'm not saying it's easy I actually have a tendency towards being in the mind and Hashem did that so that I can you know teach other people how to get back in the body if I was good at it you know then it wouldn't have been such a learning curve I wouldn't be able to teach it um and I my phone is telling me low battery so I wouldn't want to get cut off from this beautiful live and end it without you know just saying thank you so much really it's been a pleasure to converse yeah it's really nice to talk and share with some people you know people who hopped on and it's um I'm really glad that you're you're bringing yourself your energies and contributing to make is an absolutely um say incredible experience but it's it's not the words it's more than that it's just we'll see what it becomes and I think that the fact that you guys are coming to bring your energy is already there's there's so many different people um but everyone has their own unique and you guys have something that it's a short I see I started to see what what you're doing and it's incredible um using music that way and also bre breath work and in a way that elevates um and brings back to the present that's a key factor you have to be out of your mind into your body and be able to be present that's incredible and utilizing something that's a healthy super healthy way of doing it and I love that thank you for seeing us yeah thank you Mary this has been so Del life the life I hope this isn't like corny but you know I really sense sense of light in you as well and your name is Mayor which is light which is but mayor is not just light itself it's it's it's the the ability the ability to illuminate for others being mayor thank you I have a secret second name it's a first name first name is Abraham second name is May oh amazing the more hidden part but yeah well we're looking forward to for Branding with you more over yeah same super excited so happy you guys you're joining up and for the community and making this actually even more enjoyable thank you else join yeah and join us in real life this is also real life but sh be present be present when there's no PHS out and and just be there it's just to be that I'm looking for that alone just like I'm not gonna have my phone on I'm be with other people in positive environment I'm so so excited for that besides everything else just one of the main one I'm like not like no longer on my phone which would be incredible for me um but in terms of of what we're what we're doing together I'm so glad you guys are coming and and you're making this happen and and thank you very much and every people thank you know people are some people are on right now and people later will thank you and uh some thank you beforehand already what you're contributing thank you all right see you soon see you guys soon so so get to chat do it again see you guys bye have a good night bye good night