Basi L'Gani #4: The Grand "Tzimtzum" Debate—and the View of the Alter Rebbe

30 seconds probably okay good morning [Music] good morning everybody good morning welcome okay so we had our first three shim in the mare of basani we learned last Thursday and Friday and Sunday so today we'll continue we're holding perrick gimmel chapter 3 in the m and this it's p Pim tomorrow also we have a Wednesday morning 7:45 no the mag P maybe you're looking at doll huh P your dollar we finished the B and the mag right so yeah yeah look at Pim you see see that was the mag the Two Trumpets Two Trumpets of silver okay this series is dedicated in loving memory thank you very very much to the anonymous sponsor also dedicated by Ezra D philli in honor of the re and hisim for creating a revolution to saturate the world with yish bring Mash now amen thank you very much God bless you he continues in the this is the of 1950 by theat you don't know the place it's PID huh oh it's not this contus here you have here you have more on top of he continues in the he discussed we discussed last time he discussed the light of it says so we explained what does this mean it goes downward to no end meaning it's manifested in so many diverse and endless ways even in the lowest lowest places when we say lowest we mean not lowest in the sense of a higher floor and a lower floor but in terms of qualitatively and spiritually even in places that seem completely devoid of any infinite perception or infinite or or perception of Oneness myads is the other way that it extends upwards to no end meaning it's manifested and camouflaged in concealment after concealment also to no end and for this he started to explain that this is generally the theme of and he gave us the we discussed the teaching of the B and then the teaching of the mag about theum both of them brought out similar points the B brought out how the whole Olive Bays essentially what hm created was s Al through tough and with each letter the energy so to speak devolves and goes into another garment 400 garments Olive through tough is 400 400 garments but inside of all of it is an Al Al represents Al and this is that the person should then be able to go from T upwards from the womb of the Abyss I cried out all the way back to the alive even though it goes from alive through T but it's all the alive inside of it and that's why you have Shay and then ultimately you have from the alive and the T you have it's the earth the earth is a product of all of the garments from Al to T from which the Divine energy is clothed and enclothed it and then comes the second PK there's the next stage where that energy gets covered by clipping and covers and blockages and husks to the point that this and and chaos and and desolateness and darkness on the face of the abys and then and Alim he refers to the people who remain in flow with and they say we want to see the light and when the person really wants to see the there is light because really it's all that's what the said the mag articulates it through the Two Trumpets that tells to build and he says is an interesting word it means a trumpet but it has a hint also it Intimates make for yourself construct two half forms like a vis like a portrait that's split in half so each one on its own is half you know like having the jigel puzzles and you bring it together and you have one Sur you have one form you could see that it's half each one is half it's it's two halves CU one half would just keep you half but you have two halves which are really one whole and for this the mag sees this is the entire story of creation that and the human and that's Adam Adam is not one Adam is two there's Al and there's those are the the person could be in a state of dam blood survival just living functioning I would say functioning survival which is what the blood is supposed to do and it does a amazing job we're very grateful it's also even but that's the second that's the second half that's the person functioning there's the AL of the person of and it's one Adam and that's how the person becomes an Adam because you're only completed with your own second half it's your second half it's not somebody else's second half and this whole concept of is really the concept of that the light the beus as he puts it the luminence of the infinite person would not be able to contain so's light is enclosed in many many worlds and many many his words were there should be the ultimate unification from the the thesis antithesis from the dialectics that should ultimately be the ultimate integration and unification between the two and just as Hashem renounces his Infinity so to speak in order to be enclosed in many worlds the person could now also climb upward and break through every layer and connect to the AL which is the other half of the D that was the main the main the main of the so this articulates the point but what's the explanation in all of this and how does it apply so now starts the actual explanation of the continues in the when we speak about and we're not talking in time pre you know 100 years ago 5,000 years ago we're talking preum means a state of consciousness preum now the truth is what I just said didn't make sense CU preum there was no State of Consciousness there was no State there was no consciousness but but but I exist Pro post only we only Consciousness we're using the word Consciousness cuz you know that's some but in other words prum is not you know 100 years ago was prum you're talking about a certain state of reality reality perceived or experienced not experienced in a certain way what is that experience superc consciousness the light of the light which is which is the expression remember everything is about light right we always use the word light because light always represents expression manifestation light is what transmits one entity to another entity because there's light most physical practical level I could see you because we emit light somebody could see us somebody can experience us on any level you know more less again there's sometimes light that we don't experience cuz we don't of the vessels but the concept of Earth is that nothing is just self-contained in its own little bubble for itself and solitary there's a relationship there's already a communication is communication so means the communication the manifestation the revelation of the so this was what does it mean means this was manifested this was reality this is the beginning of the is considered the most fundamental one of the most fundamental works of the that was transcribed by his student r v theal passed away shined B that's 1572 on the fifth of of 1572 Shin LED Bas he was the age either of 32 or some places say 36 or 38 but he was a very young man he taught cabal only for two years from 1570 to 1572 cuz when he came toas he lived in Egypt for many years when he came toaso Rak was the great cabalist he was much older than the AR he wrote a sa called par him the orchard of pomegranates he wrote also many others foro he was considered the greatest M of the time he was a great great brilliant man and AR was a student of his theak passed away on uh 1570 shinid they're buried close to each other if you go to the old Cemetery inas the blue the graves that have the blue color they are dyed blue so you have M you have you have theel you have some of the other the great great great and sages of including the and the ETC H yeah yeah besides the tan that's a little further but over there there's a section of the of the people who lived then in the 16th century so theak passed away soal became the great teacher and for two years cuz 157 two years later passed away passed away passed away of two years later so V was his great student his main student and he transcribed his teachings one of the classics works is called the tree of life so the beginning of and now he's quoting the beginning of says before the means those realities that emanated from hashem's light like it says in I will confer from the spirit on you and put it on the sday elders like when you light a candle from another candle so he says before he doesn't even use the word because it's pre-creation it's not even creation he's still talking about what we would callus is not creation it's an emanation it's not a separate creation yes you're an ego you're a self-contained reality this is called still M it's like a candle from a candle that emanates it's like a light that emanates from The Source he says before that and again before is not time because time is also creation which means a Transcendent light POS means simple but here doesn't me just mean simple it means divested from any quality or characteristic so we call it the word when you strip yourself you call the that's also what P simple simple is it's not intricate it's not complex but that's the deepest thing right means Simplicity means it's not defined it's not entangled it's not encumbered with any details characteristics it's p another I can't describe it it's not like a quality of or quality of quality this is all pre any identifiable properties and qualities and definitions and parameters and descriptions this is all po those all come post this is pre filled all of means existence reality but there was no EX existence yet but that's exactly the point that that wasas there was no other existence that was the definition of existence and it wasn't called existence so he says m means it fills all ofus what'ss means reality comes from the word m it it's is it's present what is whatever is so all isness this is how you need to say it in English all isness I I just made up a word iyen n SS all is isness right what was is this it was filled by what do mean it was filled by when we say filled it means I have a cup and I fill the cup with coffee I fill the cup with orange juice I fill the cup with water but the cup and the water are two separate things because in the physicality we have no that's how it works there's two properties and there is division between them the best I can do is I could fill the drawer with the money or I could fill the cup with water or I could fill the box with tissues but it feels two separate things when you're speaking in spirituality in alus speaking about m it's not two separate things filled means that is it doesn't mean there's a reality and fills it like the coffee fills the cup that's not the vert means that is when you talk about spirituality not talking about physical objects so it's not you have a drawer and the drawer is filled up with keys or with papers huh yeah it fills meaning the it that fills it that that is the only reality that is msus so what was the definition of isness is we're not talking about what is that's already details right you ask the table is part of it the table is the cup is the tissue box is you are but isness is msus itself that's the template the the the context in which everything else exists what was that isness that was you understand what I'm saying very important CU we don't we don't talk like that anymore today even if huh still is yeah that's going to be the whole point it is what it is and it still is that theim Tsum in other words didn't just conceal things it changed the vocabulary which is deeper than concealment because when you change a vocabulary you don't know that it's concealed you understand you could say something was here and it's concealed it changed the vocabulary today when you want to speak about you say Hashem is that's already the biggest problem you understand Hashem is no no Hashem is bigm is very big hashm is infinite hashm is in heaven hhm is in Earth Hashem is here AEM is there AEM is everywhere that's already all and and even if you feel it you know it it's not you're saying what you really what you believe experience even on some level but already you're describing two things Hashem is preimum is no other isness he is isness that is yeah huh yeah yeah yeah the beginning of separation is already the word is yeah he is the is cuz once you say is in other words there's something hold reality now let's in this reality you have a lot of things so now I'm saying there's there's also this reality and even if you want to say this is the only reality this is the only reality that is H as long as say still is Right abute beginning yeah yeah yeah actually starts from that that we cannot is not definable by definition right yeah yeah you cannot Define that by definition so that's what he says M this is the only definition of and it doesn't have a definition we're using the word because that's because we use the word reality but it does it does not have a definition it's very frustrating for somebody who wants to control things and wants to Define things and wants to put things into a certain you know confined box even if it's extremely sophisticated but that frustration does didn't exist because msus didn't have a reality outside of it that frustration is hitting against attension it's like you want me to surrender I don't want to surrender like no way when that is so that is Kus that is isness so there's no frustration there's no tension there's no resistance there's no push back that's what the says through the this becomes concealed so it's as though it's suspended and as he puts it it's like everything was and then he gives there a physical even picture a graphic description in was almost like you'll take a drill and drill through the light and create this empty space and the light is now removed to the circle around the space and the space is completely empty it's a calls it a it's empty at least from the perception of the space so someone like you drill this hole this empty hole into the light and the light is now removed and theel says it's like an eagle in cabala it's called Eagle the great circle and he uses the word Circle because a circle is equidistant the center of the circle is equidistant from all sides in a uniform fashion and that's his point so so that's how he describes it and in that empty space where the is not present it's concealed this that's where a new reality begins what the definition of reality that we could use the word reality and now we ask what is reality even if you tell me reality is ain't it's already postum you understand reality is Ain oh you already ruined everything you think preimum this statement would not just be laughable at it would be nonsensical but so with the drawing that's true [Music] yeah was once teaching us about ssum say remember he gave a very interest very interesting ver he said postum if you say this reality outside of it's like saying 2 + 2 equals 7 it's laughable and it's ridiculous PR if you say this reality outside of an it's like saying 2 plus 2 equals pink you see the difference 2+ 2 equals 5 is a mistake okay Rel but it's relatable cuz two and a half and two and a half is five and three and a half and three and a half is seven okay so you got it off and even if you tell me 2 + 2 is 9 n okay so you got it very off you're having a bad day but there's a concept here there's a concept I can argue with you and I'm not I'm not going to argue with you too long about it but and I know the mistake too I know the mistake when you say 2 plus 2 equals pink or I said say 2 plus 2 equals yellow what am I arguing what am I going to tell No 3 + 3 equals yellow not 2 + 2 2+ 2 equals what green it's not relatable in his words you know he's he says huh that's relatable maybe in today's world it is relatable M I don't know 2 plus 2 equals yellow I don't know with modern art you know everything goes you could just make a black dot and if it's the right person you could sell it for $20 million I don't know yeah pre black squares but it's it's it's and even that I'm not sure it expresses it fully he was just trying to bring out it's not an argument of a is reality PO is also reality but you're already telling me is reality you're telling me that is reality you think there's reality the whole reality is infinite okay nice that that's that's a postum issue preum to say those words again it's like 2 plus 2 equals pink it's it's not you're wrong you're right you're wrong and the Tsum you tell me a is not reality so you're wrong but I can hear it why cuz there was a Tsum that's what the Tsum accomplished the Tsum accomplished it should be able to be a definition and even more an experience of reality why because the got concealed when got concealed oh there's a there's an empty space what does it mean empty space conceptually we're not talking about physical empty spaces here we're talking all about an energetic experience what does it mean empty space an energetic experience of something called reality that's it [Music] msus well you need you want an empty space that's being encircled By the Light but that's also a circle no you want to bring out that there's the and there's the there's the the so to speak encircling the empty space and the empty space you just want that Duality there space begin space is a creation that's the point that's the point and here space we don't mean physical space here we may mean phal space yeah that's too but I'm saying we're not even talking about physical space at this point the conceptual yeah the conceptual concept of a space that's not so now after you'll argue you'll say 2 plus 2 doesn't equal three it equals four doesn't equal eight it equals four fine and you're right and everybody could be convinced pretty fast and it's not a question in nobody argues if or not but it's still post if it's like out of let's say existence you know take physical Universe it's it's a for the spiritual as well yeah it's all one yeah yeah like a semal point from that start yeah from that seminal Point Begins the entire process everything post so when you say was concealed yeah because before was not concealed any other concept was not even relatable you you wouldn't even relate to it not conceptually not energetically wasn't concealed wasn't concealed yeah so that's the only definition and that even doesn't have a definition I'm using the word definition because I have no other word but that was the only definition of reality so if you talk about something else it's not just you're wrong I I can't even comprehend what you're saying it's like masas it's insanity and even worse than Insanity Insanity has has strong roots in our world it's like this is muga it's also relatable it's relatable as Insanity say sometimes it's more relatable than sanity depends which culture you're moving here when I say I'm using the word Insanity JS to say that it's like I don't even have what to say it's not an argument the concept can't even enter into US Oneal process yeah go ahead it's people create a glassel the the person that makes theel blows in into pip Andes out other of the so it's like the so that that bre nice I went to a glass factory once it's pretty fascinating he blows and suddenly the glass emerges saying that's like yes okay so this is the of and then theel says but so now you have an empty space what's an empty space empty space means whatever happens afterwards that was already CU afterwards it's not like it's empty now there's a whole creation Now What's called the cavel says that he takes this is his words again it's graphic but we have to understand the concept he takes from the light that encircles the empty space takes a Cav which means alarm or a he uses another word a thread like a thread of Light which means the tiniest like your pipe yeah the glass maker tiniest line and communicates that into the empty space I wanted to say into the black hole which may not be a bad use word to use he communicates that into what we calling the black hole meaning this empty we're calling it empty space it's really not so empty but we'll see that soon it's called empty because from its perception there is a Tsum so it's not just empty now the C comes back in but when the Cav comes back in it's already a different because it's already post right that reel asks a question why do you have to take out all the light and then bring in a line take out all the light besides that line yeah if you have $1,000 and I want you should only have $10 so what do I have to take away the whole $1,000 and give you $10 take take $990 and leave by him $10 better for for accounting it's easier I understand but God has a good accountant he has Jews they're all accountants so we're good so what it seems like a technical question but it's important because I everything is metaphoric but why why is this the metaphor you make it empty and then you're bringing back light anym way so leave that light say you took away 999999 99% of the infinite light but you left a line fine doesn't say that there was a is empty it's gone it's concealed completely and now there's no action it's just empty so what happens now vacation so now he brings in a line what have to bring don't leave that line the is oh and because the meant that has to be S be complete the line that comes afterwards is not the same like the line that would have been left there the line that would have been left is a continuum of the original reality you could have never created that postum conception would so hard yes yes if the line was left we wouldn't we wouldn't be talking about this yeah because the everything is gone so now there's a new outside of it's called a it's called an empty space what do we mean empty again empty here means the perception of a word called reality now we can argue what reality is you might tell me reality is AEM but it's still post symptom and because it's post symptoms is already somewhat of attention so now even when the Cav comes back in besides it just being align it's already coming into an empty space so it's a whole different M and in this Cav itself yeah the C comes and that starts creating or emanating all of what we call reality from the highest to the lowest and that line doesn't go all the way to the bottom of the empty space it only goes to a certain degree that says because in the lower worlds you don't see the C you don't it's affected by it but you don't see it and that's why over there reality is our definition of reality is physical or materialistic and you could walk around the world and be an agnostic or an atheist and even win a Nobel Prize be a very respected Pur huh that's funny usually I think if somebody's coming to probably thinks that God exists on some level but I hear you that's very funny okay so this is basically description that now from this starts the whole discussion to understand really what's the pus of this and here there's a huge there was a huge debate in Caba if if meant is or not literally or not literally meaning of course everybody understood he didn't mean it literally he was making pictures he wasn't talking about physical light going out going in but when we say literally or not literally we mean literally or non literally on an existential transcendental level literally or not literally literally doesn't mean literally that the picture is a physical picture but literally meant that when he says that the was suspended to create an empty space that's literal literal means it's empty we'll see what that means soon what that means empty but it means that's what it means it's real it's it's it's a real void as opposed to the sh of the B and the found one of the big foundational ideas of the whole and Al meaning that the whole inion of Tsum is that's what that's what you heard in the words of the B and the the whole is part of it's all part of unity it's really deconstructing Tsum yeah it's deconstructing Tsum that the whole Tsum is just an expression of ultimate intimacy and Oneness now you say what doesn't make sense the whole tum is obviously you wanted some separateness right you didn't have to do theum if you really wanted to be one so that's a big that means that when you really understand or you really deconstruct simum the entire Tsum was really nothing but a manifestation of complete akas complete Oneness even though it seems the exact opposite means withdrawal conce kment suspension what are the ramifications of this the ramifications of this are not just profound but completely life-changing and transformative because it's really how do you relate to every concealment in your life and in the world every blockage remember Tsum trickles down into the most particular manifestations of people lives you know it's easy to get stuck in the cosmic excitement here of Tsum which you know is is very very abstract but when we everything we're talking about simum is talking about the simum inside of us how the tum impacts me and you that's really what matters yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's really on an energetic internalized level what is the is it and here there's four inum four different inimum I'm going to say it very briefly and we'll get to understand it more there were four different opinions in now listen tune in because it's a little bit this is in you know deep stuff I don't know what's deeper what's not deeper we once spoke about we learned died to a few years ago from the so we also over there there's a whole about this this whole which we're also going to touch soon so basically there's two sh when you speak about light the uses keeps on using the word whenever you speak about light there's and there's there's the source of light o by definition is what is transmitted from the mo right in the sun is called the Moon is called from the from the great luminary called the sun we have sunlight we have the Rays of the Sun that extending right now this morning it's beautiful morning Illuminating our home our to give light so is not is the source of the that's why it's called is the source it's MAF it generates it generates and creates the light that comes from it so he uses the word so here are the four opinions in simp I'm just going to say the opinions as they are opinion number one is we're going to go to the most radical one way and then the most radical the other way and you'll guess who's radical on the other way I know this way you don't have to guess radical on one way is thatum was everywhere meaning theum was in and theum was in the simum was in the light and even in the source of the light so when Uncle M sing hem is here hem is there Hashem is truly everywhere he never learned about the T God could still know everything and supervise everything but as one of the great called wrote he says it's really so disrespectful to say that Hashem is present in a bakis in dung and in excrement he says it's not nice you don't take the king and put him into your Cesspool and say he's there he's there he's [Music] there say the king stays in the palace on top of a mountain he could supervise everything he knows what's happening he knows what's happening in your sesel but there's a distance respect It's actually an element of respect it's an element of a it's an element of COV of distance the argue that did it out of did it out of they did it out of COV out of and it makes sense it's like relax and ultimately that makes the universe a very painful place and this expresses itself in an entire you know you see it's interesting with ti like everything is interconnected right how you look at the whole world according toim ultimately the world is this is not a place to be you got to go through this world in order to get all your receipts you know cuz you can only show receipts and where do you get the receipts you know in the restaurant you have to pay and then you get a receipt you get the food know you can't come with the money you got to come with the receipts and the receipts you get know the whole perception is get out of here as fast as possible of course God wants you to be healthy so you have to be here but ultimately the whole way of looking at the world is from a way of prous now even you'll say the deeper higher and higher and higher you go you're getting epis a little closer so the most radical sh is not only in but also in May the source also complete complete there was a second in Mayer in the sour there was no tum but in the light this in light there in the there was no in so again the first one is there's a tum both in the m in the source and in the light and it's the second is in there was no but in there was a we'll see more how it manifests itself now you have the most radical the opposite and this was the sh of the B huh I'm saying now I'm going to the O Other Extreme and that is in not nothing happened in and in it's only that was this was generally the of the in the Ence in essence don't even use the word the whole concept of doesn't apply there that's why the only uses the word and even in don't take it literally and what do we what does it mean don't take it literally it doesn't mean he doesn't mean what he says he means what he says don't take it literally is a very deep thing don't take it literally means we have to get to the bottom of it when you say don't take it literally means don't take it at face value that's what it means don't take it literally doesn't mean he doesn't mean what he says don't take it literally means when you're looking at simum you could look at it from Face Value don't take it at face value you have to dig deeper like we learned from the and from the B there's a t go to the shin and go to the and go to the K and go to thead and get to the AL Tash or like the mag says you're a half a trumpet you need to find the other half of the trumpet and the whole tum is that you should be able to have a half a trumpet that connects so even in the don't take it at face value now that's a cuz you would think is face value or means face value or means light what I see what I see is what I get so you're saying no no no in Sim what you see is not what you get and even that that what you see is not what you get don't take it face value you understood the last thing I said even that that what you see is what you get also don't take it face value so when why does he say there was a tum so there was no no there was a tum that's why that's why we need to explain it if there was no we didn't have to wasn't be a here it wouldn't be all these my not alone yeah it's not just you're not left alone everyone is everybody all the sh and there and there that's not an argument this is mainstream in nobody was arguing this is all an argument with so have to understand that it's not U that says in the says you know I want you to do this and I don't want you to do this and there's a consequ that that that exists either sh so it's it's more subtle things but it has profound ramifications now you're talking about big people you're not talking wasn't small people I mean there was the were very big people he says from here you have you could understand you know you can understand what he calls the to of M the mistake of some of the of some of the wise people in their eyes they made a mistake that the of and then you have the fourth sh so remember the first one is radical in the you have another one in the there was no in the there was and then you have a third fourth The Other Extreme in the there was no and even in the there's no and there is but it's not and then you have in the middle the other sh which is that in the that the the Tsum was in the ear was no Tsum I'm sorry what's the third one what's missing here huh right the was no was but that was the second one I said no so what's what's what's so what was two what did I I'm sorry I got confused huh yeah yeah number one is the most teacher us to figure it out very good number one in the Meer there was a tsim Tsum and was that's the most radical and it's literal number two in the there was no and in the that's number two number three huh don't but what did you say is number three no in the May and in the that's the radical one that's how said it here that's why I want to preserve why don't I look it up so I don't have to get confused here give me a moment oh okay I looked it up number one I said that right and also in not only in that's number one okay number two but only in the not in Theos so the is but only in the that's number two thank you number three but also in theer and number four is not and even that is only in the even the is only in the because in the okay I'm just going to say it again so everybody can get it the most radical one and one extreme is that the Tsum is both in the and in the May and it's that means there was so to speak a suspension of the light and a suspension of the essence and they said that you can't say that the king is in the garbage in a garbage dump it's disrespectful they even use the word this was a sh even though today it's not so known you know today everybody they meant means his glory his supervision but there was AUM both in the light and in the atmos the second one is that in the there was no in other words over there but in the there is so that's already not so radical other is the is the but on both levels even in the G so here is saying it's in the second one is only in the in the in the third one you say but it's also in the Mayer so in both and the fourth one is in the mar there was no Tsum and the was only in the but over there okay you understand you got it or not okay you'll hear it again it's a yeah I understand so let's see inside let's see inside now okay so this was a big argument yeah he says like this oh sorry I skipped here four lines from here we can understand something else the whole that talks about is only in the that fill what about the way is in its s in the essence over there you can't say over there you can only talk about means capability or potentiality so over there the whole concept of doesn't apply in other words from these words you see that theum was only in the and in the you could speak about over there you say it filled and now it doesn't fill but a higher if you take the back to the source the atmos of the the way it's in the essence over there you can't even say it fill over there it's all means capability expains he says the whole and the empty space is only applicable to Earth but in the you can't speak about what does he mean the word simum is only in because in you could say the opposite ofum so you could say in you could say hisas the is expensive so you could say it's contracted but sins in you can't say the opposite of tum so you can't say in you could say his so you could say also the opposite of his P but in you can't say the opposite of Tsum so you can't say Tsum either that's what he explains is because it just is you can't say hisus it extends it reveals so you also can't say Tsum it's concealed the word the very reality of is only a word that's which means So when you say that the of the earth created an empty space is only we talking about Earth in the beginning the O was revealed in a way that it filled all of reality so there was no place for the reality of the world because of the luminescence of the light as the says the concealment creates an empty space what does it mean empty empty from the light that there's no revelation of the light you're talking about even is present his G is not like g means it's fully present in every space say that's why even a child knows that Hashem is existent the name of Heaven is common in everybody's mouth what are they talking about they're not talking about the kid the child doesn't know about he talking about this is what explains what's the pry clear yeah I hear so what's the saying here that the whole inion the whole discussion is all talk about what's is the way something is manifested outside of it itself what we call GTOs means let's say you have the Sun so the light could be notos it could remain in the Solar core means it expands it extends the word like right you extend your hand that's what and that's what really means means the way something is communicated to others by extending Itself by emitting its own energy so it could be experienced or perceived or seen or and then it could be the opposite then could be yeah like you dim the light or you put out the light what's you dim the light because the light could be not dimmed which means in full glory in full expression hisas so when you speak aboutus you can also speak about the opposite of so there and here you can argue what exactly that means and we'll soon see what the in the is but over here you could talk even about the word [Music] fil fil that was only definition of reality the experience of and of course when you use the word experience of means there's nothing outside of that experience of the ins so even the word experience again like we use the cup is filled with water there's already a duality but here we're talking about Preity so now you could say that the Tsum accomplished or achieved that there should be a state of reality that we call reality with it's concealed it's not it's now the there's still a question what that ssum in means that's going to be in second stage but there can be a discussion of but that whole discussion only begins in there's no the whole word doesn't apply yeah because is where there but the is not so there can't be says the is not you're talking about something that is beyond light it is it is and it is in its Essence do change yeah so that doesn't change so he says over there there's no so there's no and that's why the AL is that after what when you use the word you don't mean because of then there would be a talking about his Gallos of his Gallos of doesn't mean his Gallos that it's revealed on my terms that I absorb the light the light is communicated his Gus means it's fully fully present in its full intensity CU there's not any change in that he says where does that come out that comes out in a child when the child says when the child speaks about it's what is it it's [Music] m used to say the Simplicity of the simple Jew that's the Simplicity of Atmos it's not sophisticated it's not with m because it's not with it's the it's the essence the way it is in the essence and over there there no no so the whole discussion in is only when we talking about I think a black hole is a very good example within the black hole exists also if we go back to our black hole musle that we spoke in the second class right so we call it black hole cuz you don't see any light really it has more light than anything else it just doesn't allow the light to be released so that's going to be a mus but that the whole discussion of what's happening in the black hole in terms of light is only a discussion in light the source of it the source of the light the mar which is beyond light yeah that remains fully present because presence over there is not the same presence like light is present when you say light is present it means it's manifested it's expressed it's Beal light means already it left light really means it left its source to some degree of course it's connected left doesn't mean you know went on far away and it's detached I'm saying it's but it's not severed is it's out out but I'm saying we look at the ray of the sun it's it's an emanation we know it has a source let's let's put it that way we know it has a source but so that's what presence means so when that's what presence means here there could be aim here there could be a when you're talking about the essence when you say presence presence doesn't mean it's in a way of present of that it's manifested it's communicated it means it is what it is on its terms and it's not just on its terms it's OS to expl there's nothing to explain there's nothing to Define and over there is not he didn't conceal it he didn't minimize it he didn't diminish it it is the way it is that's when the child he says even children does it mean they know doesn't mean know their grandmother told them so fine your grandmother can also tell you that Turtles exist and you could say Turtles exist so children know what what what their mother told them to know they know if your mother told you that on this roof there's a billion Turtles fine so I'll say I know there's a billion Turtle he says y y means that the child actually experiences it so it's interesting from this from The Children Al comes up to the conclusion that the isas from children cuz children they have a sense that it's a truth so you'll say but what is it what you'll tell the child explain it to me he's going to start laughing at you like stop wasting my time so yeah CU children they don't have an education they're illiterate they're babies he says no cuz they're talking about the May you're stuck in Earth they're not stuck night you understand that and it's telling us not only about the it's telling us about children also but their innocence touches the core of Innocence pure pure yeah the child inside of us the child inside of us is the same minion that's his expression speaks about what sh when that child or that person says Hashem yeah what is it it's not it doesn't know about and Revelations and even how it is and the that's the the May is fully present again the word presence here is Gall doesn't mean like is gal of I could see the light you're talking about Atmos you're talkinging about the essence balos means it's fully present as it is and what is it I don't know I don't know what it is is and over there the whole inion of he says it's not the discussion of what it means the whole word is not means something that it's in one state and now could be in a different state and here that whole change doesn't apply so when he quoted says from here we understand something else what's the something else that the whole is only in the but the way you take the Earth back to the source the Earth comes from somewhere so he says the way you take the Earth back to the source which is over there there's no so he says from this you understand something else the way you take it back to the source there's no because over there you can't say that the was that's only something you could say in that fills reality over there he says it was only what was only capability over there is in a state of so so he's saying here something even deeper that when you take the back to the source over there you can't say Tsum in the because over there it's not when the is you could say now it's not but over there it's not it's over there what does it means inos you also have but what's it's not the definition of light it's the it's the potential it's the capability of everything it's the source so the source can send light The Source can also not send light the sun doesn't really have a choice the sun was created this way the sun decides you know what I just want to be a narcissist today nobody's gotting my light I want to spend time with myself it's called downtime we're glad the sun doesn't do that because the sun was created to give light if you're not giving light you don't want to give light but we're talking about the real it's not forced it's so there's a there's a capability to cast light there's also a capability not to cast light so inmos you have everything so you don't say the is is that's already a manifestation of a certain potential and in potential the capacity to give and not to give is the same it's just potential I can express myself I cannot express myself I can express myself in infinite different ways I cannot express myself in infinite different ways and I can not express myself and in that is the same the potential to cast light and not to cast light is the same once it comes out as so now is defines reality and therefore there could be where it doesn't Define reality but if you take this very same back to the S the comes from somewhere so if you trace the her back to its original Source in Atmos over there it's not a definition of over there even when you talk about it's it's the potential for and because it's the potential for so therefore you can't speak about the word of you can't speak about even the way the is in its source because over there it's so what is it it's him it's not so it's interesting the way he says it he doesn't just say in the there's no he says the way you take the back to the may you can't speak aboutum why because over there it's only and there's no what God got rid of his potentiality to cast light he didn't get rid of his potentiality to cast light the word simum is in the manifestation of a certain presence and experience I want to suspend that manifestation would be like choosing not to cast out my light so you don't see it fine it's almost like a person decide you know I'm not coming out I'm going to stay I'm not going to reveal okay but the is not challenged it's not like the T says he doesn't have a potential to cast light so that potentiality is fully there over there theim doesn't affect it cuz it's not there's also no tum why is that so because this becomes the whole key of everything it's not it's a little if you say that the comes from a place of and in the ability to cast light and not cast light is the same and was no so the ultimate here of the AL is going to be that even the way the Earth comes out if you can just trace it back to its own source so then ultimately the O is not different than the I don't know if any of this made [Music] sense he's not just saying here the May didn't have aimm doesn't have tum okay that's also nice it's very that the child who says you knowem or hasem help me or I want to talk to you he's talking direct to and it's right here and it's in every and it's not that that itself is powerful but he's saying here that when you take the back to the source there's no Tsum because over there it's not a definition of it's the of and in the of there was no and over there the ability to cast light and not cast light is exactly the same if that's the case that means itself has two aspects there's the way we perceive the there's the way the really is what it really is it's a reflection of the so in every the moment it manifests what it really is in its source it's the same thing so therefore its ability to cast light and not cast light is the same thing in it's one in you don't say my ability to cast light is different than my ability not to cast light it's all him so is the same and over there there was no now when it comes out an actual over here you say there was a but when you take the back to its own source over there it's it's not over there is not so when the ultimately embodies what it really is in its source so ultimately becomes just like there so the light and the concealment become exactly the same and that's the real secret of that because the and Theos become one I know this sounds very very abstract but but that's really the in because we're talking here about Hashem when people talk about these things they get stuck in Concepts and definitions and here you can never get stuck in concept definitions cuz even when you talk about atos like what even what are you talking about like what do you want like God do whatever you want and just you know give me the bill right just give me the invoice and like what what are you making it so complicated and the answer is yeah it's really not complicated but that's the the point is it's not complicated but it is complicated where are all the complications the complications is the healing of our experience it's all our per perception it's the perception of experience where all the complexities happen so when you think about all these things what he has to have you are you need if you don't have light you need light you have [Music] light the whole idea is back to the mag it's all about if we want just God to exist if God just wants to exist he has no he could do whatever he wants it's fine that's not the V the V is as we always talk about it's the relationship it's the fusion it's real fusion real AK real AK means integration with you integration with me integration with us integration is not a fake thing integration is not make believe it's integrated that's not integration integration is that you really embody you embody the so for this I have to work through every blockage for this I have to work through every experience of Darkness if not it's not for this I have to have you so now I need to know what's the product that created you when we talk about tumim Tsum tsims Tsum we're not talking even about Hashem we're talking about us that's the whole V of the B Tsum is not talking about hem there was no Tsum Tsum is all a sketch a psychological existential spiritual sketch to understand The Human Condition it's mapping out the science of the brain how are your neurons functioning and the answer is they believed it was a Tsum that's the V your brain is formed in a world in which it experiences life as and that's not a mistake it was supposed to be that way it's not that because our brains are are are ruined they're not that's what they're supposed to experience and can you help that brain experience alignment in a world where it feels abandonment so all the levels we're talking about hm needs all these levels you are do what you want I don't understand stop giving me Madre and madas and mad the Madre is talking about integration of course he could do what he want we're talking about what about me so I could say oh there's no sim tumim what what do you mean there's no tsim Tsum I just got triggered yeah I'm in a dark place I'm struggling I'm numb I'm disassociated the world is chaos I'm chaos all the levels of Tsum is describing a it's a map for the dysfunctionality of the Universe on many levels to the most dysfunctional places and even places where the dysfunctionality is benign and that's what we're working through so the reason you're working through stuff is not just to make more levels and more levels we're trying to find the interface where it can be true fusion and what does that mean in a person's life that the person viscerally becomes an embodiment of that Oneness which is the deepest intimacy and the deepest Bliss and the ultimate purpose in the person and ultimately in the whole universe in the whole world St so this is what g means it's complete coherence but so so it's very important to understand first thing he says inm there's no that's number one so the essence it's always present and manifested and what do we mean present and manifested not revealed in a way that my brain gets it in its own way it's not the of it's and the child knows it and the child and each of us knows it when we say know it doesn't mean intellectually it hasn't figured out with scientific proofs because the child knows about all of the fine-tuning of the universe and the first seconds and therefore he proves that mathematically it would be mind staggering to believe that there was no Creator most adults don't have that figured out either yeah when you say am what does real doesn't mean Blind Faith means faith that comes from Atmos into atos that's what really means and is not threatened by intellect the child doesn't look at you and say you know I'm I'm afraid of of your science I'm not afraid of it it's just not it's not that Lev the relationship it's like when the child is hugging its mother so you're going to prove scientifically that the mother doesn't exist because most of the physical matter in this world doesn't really exist so therefore the matter that you're touching doesn't exist fine you want to go there mean you can go there it's not n it's not threatened by SE doesn't touch the of so that's one but here he's going even deeper and not really even deeper just extending it and that is ultimately the also comes from is not some strange creation that God is like this me and this my life really god let's get over that okay there's me in my light and in my light there was a okay so don't do it when you say my light you're really describing this way life is being experienced by the World by people that's light in the healing process when the light goes back is trays back to the atmos and that Atmos is expressed in the light so all the properties that exist in Atmos will exist in the also so everything we say about there's no ultimately is true about also but there was aim cuz that's what is if there was no sim and then there wouldn't be there wouldn't be all of these experiences huh everything is just m so so that's the work in the to be able to show that the really comes from and therefore the state of Oneness in is expressed even in the world of expression where there's and therefore ultimately there could be the complete Oneness between Theus of the person which is based on and the atmos with yeah huh yeah yeah yeah yeah so this summation is this means Revelation where there's Revelation there could be the opposite of Revelation the energy revealed the energy is not revealed that's what ssum is that's only with his Revelation where there's no Revelation because it's not in the realm of Revelation there's also not anti- Revelation darkness is the opposite of light with it's not light it's not dark Atmos is not light so it's not dark can't get dark you can't get rid of the light if it's light I could say it's light and now it's not light there was a Tsum in the light it can get dark it can be dimmed but atmus is not a get of light it's not get dark the whole mus of is not there so what is it in Atmos in Atmos there's a capacity for light there's a capacity for not light there's a capacity for everything but it's all him it's all Atmos and in atas the capacity for light and the capacity for not light is exactly the same capacity so now here's a question when light that trickles down from the source when it could fully embody its source it's not called light anymore it's just how does Atmos experience the light that comes from it we experience the light as Revelation because we experience it from outside but how does Atmos experience the light just as a manifestation of his ability to cast light cuz it's from The Source over there the capacity to cast light and the capacity not to cast light is exactly the same thing it's all Atmos so this re reveals is that the Tsum in the is really an expression of his capacity not to cast light and that's the same like his capacity to cast light so but deep down the same thing like we say in there was no so deep down in the earth is also not the moment and this is the the whole the moment you reveal and you trace the back to the source in the source it's all in the capacity to shine the capacity not to shine is it's coherent it's completely one it's not two separate things we say light and darkness because we're talking about once the light comes out but when before the light comes out in the essence I could I could express I could not express that eye is exactly the same eye the eye that could express the eye that can't express think in a person once you speak people heard words and they heard what they heard before you spoke the eye that could speak and not speak is the same eye so e if in the words we can experience that eye that could speak and not speak so even the words become a manifestation of that chord that eye and in that eye there's no sy so when the manifests and embodies that ofos so even in the world of ultimately there's no and that's what we mean by the real is that the manifests Theos and once the Manifest the atmos over there there's no Tsum so you say but you're just making a joke out of yourself you just told me that an earth there is AUM I understand because that's what tells you that's the language of the language of is I was revealed and I'm not revealed the moment you go deeper and you see the EMS of the Earth it's the Gil ofos so that gives the and the empowerment that in the world of it should be the reflection of Atmos and over there the ability not to shine and the ability to shine is exactly the same minion so even the way the is concealed in simum think about [Music] this even with what is it it's hashem's capacity not to shine but it's still there the moment we stop divorc Earth from source so it's the way it's in the source we just said that in atmus there's no tum either is aims the tum is in Earth not an Atmos yeah I Atmos has the ability to shine and the ability not to shine over there there's no tum he still has the ability he has it's the same thing it's the same thing and therefore there's no tum over there what if the Earth can reflect that in other words when the earth is shining it's not the Earth shining it's atos's capacity to express itself then when it doesn't Express itself it's atos's capacity not to express itself but the challenge here is that is not this it is my experience of things so this isn't the whole that happens the whole is here as the person Works upward and this is what the maged was teaching that everything is about that really it's about full withm the is just the medium to be able to get to this full Unity if it's the medium to get to the full Unity so everything that we're going through is just a process of unity so what do you need it for because I want it to be integrated that's what the mag says I want it to be integrated for it to be integrated I need you to have you I need you ah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the means that the relationship needs to include the person with all of his or her experiences and dimensions cuz means communication to the other and that's the whole reason there's a tum in the but that's all as a to be be able to get back to this truth of it but you need this because if not it's not integrated it's just bypassing then you didn't have to make a creation you could just say everything ismm and we're good you're right so all the processes that we're learning about is really processes within the person's levels of awareness and dimensions of existence and how we Define when you say there was a there was no not it's all true it's just weird where are you today in your Consciousness sometimes you're going to wake up and feel okay and you could say no he's really it's really diagnostic if you want you could say okay it's the most sophisticated it's the most sophisticated diagnostic system that there is I could wake up in the morning or middle of the day and I could say okay what are you feeling what are you feeling you understand the here and here it's it's it's it's I don't mean to trivialize it because it's not trivial but it's it's almost like four states of Consciousness like four different moods so to speak so you say what do we need this all for this is it this this is where the work is this is where the work is to connect in this place embodiment working through this nervous system working through this this this universe this is the ability to be able to create this Fusion so this is the whole for the explanation in that's going to now begin in the next literally next chapter the is to understand that we're only talking about not and that's the key because if the was in the then it's a whole different inion then it means that ssum has its own objective it makes its own because the Sy is not in the is everything is the source what has its own has its own its own bank account there's a bank account of Mo is Mo H yeah the mo is no so the moment you know the mo is not the Tsum so here Begins the Yeshua this is already the Yeshua of everything because the mo is not simum ultimately it means that in the earth is's no Tsum now I just contradicted myself you just said the whole thing that is Tsum that's EX ly the vert the way is divorced from may even in the most subtle degree over there you talk about the moment is not divorced from and it's not because it comes from the may we talk when something comes from something it's like it happened to when you say something comes from something it means that's what it is God Is Not compartmentalized in a thousand different pieces so every you could look at it fromm's perspective it's from my perspective it's not because that's the whole idea of Tsum that there should be a me with my brain that is finite that's not Divine so now I go with the lad goes back up we start with and that's the whole that's the of the weren't just nice people trying to say you know in all the darkness God is here that's what he's saying weren't saying nice to give Jews encouragement it's a crazy G but God is still crying with you say to him and he's listening don't worry he's not so far away which is also nice to comfort people that way say were revealing this whole this is the not is a very very it's the Ultimate Reality of everything and because it's the Ultimate Reality of everything so therefore on any level of experience the moment we touch deeper and deeper and we deconstruct and we see the emis of it so o is not separate than it's just the way the is coming out in something we call the moment you're there there's no even in yeah even just like in Hashem his capacity not to express himself is not different than his capacity to express himself you say oh no his capacity not to express himself is less him it's not less him so imagine can experience that ID experien of not as light as God's ability to express himself okay so now when the O is concealed what is it it's God's ability to not express himself okay so what's the difference okay have a beautiful day tomorrow morning 7:45 [Laughter] a.m. she says we're she doesn't know how right she [Laughter] is right right right just bring the cont some herea [Music]