Brenner part 1

by the way for giving us that a rally that's taking place later today in Manhattan uh put together by the central Bal congress with us right now is Rabbi yako Shapiro a spokesman for that organization sh weer is the editor their blot newspaper good gentlemen thank you for joining us good good let me good let me begin with you R yako Shapiro your organization is sponsoring putting together a rally against the Israeli draft that's taking place later in Manhattan so who's behind the rally what's it all about what's going on what's on the agenda right well first I don't know if we can call it my organization um it's really not my organization but the agenda is basically where people are getting together to pray and to protest um against the uh drafts of the Yeshiva guys in ER but but you but you're the spokesman you're you're not a Soper plus just said but you're representing the C Central retical Congress of the United States in Canada which is the organizer of the representing yeah I'm not a remember he said said and I said when you greeted us okay whatever way you say it but but I'm just saying but you are as the media spokesman you're the representative for the group that's putting together the rally and and what what was the motivation for putting together rally at this point in time uh the motivation of putting together the rally was um because of the draft the the purpose of the rally is number one uh to uh voice our voice our United opinion um to anybody who's willing to listen that uh we're against the draft we want to first of all uh give the the Bim who we're expecting not to comply with the draft we want them to know that we're behind them we obviously can't expect people to um put their neck on the line to B themselves unless uh if we don't uh do anything if we don't do anything so but by the way it's not official yet I know they're talking about it but it has been implemented there are still a lot of changes to be made so aren't you jumping the gun by doing it now no no no because why they're trying to do it they want to do it listen if they don't do it then fine but on the contrary on the contrary it's easy easier to stop something if it's going to be stopped before it's implemented if all the bads um gazis would have been able to be protested against before they were implemented be a lot easier but there still there still harder to harder to respond to oh now you so but this is unique and I'm going to go to our guest sh weer is on he's the editor of their BL are you there yes yeah so you are representing their BL this is unique because For the First time you're having two brothers that do you know the followers and the RIT have been at odds of one another for a long time but you having a Unity right because you have both follows you represent RAR of safer and R safer getting together same Podium this is a historic event where you have two factions of sore being united by the state of Israel in opposition to what perceived to be a graph legislation which hasn't taken place yet you're right is a very great think but this is not the first time going back to a meeting at the Council of CRC there was a meeting with between the leading rabbis of New York State and both rabbis were there and that that time it was the issue M both rabbers were there s sitting together and bringing both sides together it's not the first time let's go back to the rashin case first of all just to mention that rashin is a and was KJ K Joel was the first Jewish neighborhood that they made a fundraising for rusan and it was continued in Lakewood and B par and all sides came together there is time when you put everything inside and you come together now the same thing happened to willbur two years ago where there was a pig in fundraising in Williamsburg in the ballroom of Continental on R Street in Will everybody who Pig who is the pigon sh for in that case it was um Mr okay and everybody came together and um in the same in the same time we support the case everybody gave some donations bigger smaller but it's always good and therefore what is happening tomorrow it's realas after is getting together but in the other case did they speak together publicly on the same Podium or they had it at work because from what I understand this is a first public event where they're going to actually be speaking together to my to my knowledge none of the rabis would be talking there are a selected uh list of uh speeches which does not include either of the grand rebes of theic sect entirely I mean um we expecting uh another couple Grand I'm not a couple but expect a lot of rabies Grand rabes and on the list I don't think there's any Grand re or Rabbi who going to speak why isn't any of the grand rebies aside from speaking tomorrow this this is the custom by the demonstration never aab was speaking this goes back to the they were not speaking they were just attending and giving support and uh this is going to continue tomorrow now let me ask you at the meetings the both rebies did they speak to each other they shake hands how did it work because I wasn't there so just for the edification of our audience give us an idea what's going on because you know there has been feuding Back in Forth for quite a while some of it has gotten pretty nasty we've covered it on the a some just Tru know is this genuine piece are just getting together for the day and you go back to fighting if give us a picture we hope this is going to Prov and to my knowledge we expecting tomorrow on the Das a couple of hundred dignitaries um and and expecting a a a large a large group there okay th those that are just tuning in you're listening to a special broadcast that uh we are putting together tonight and about a rally that's taking place uh actually later today in uh in lower Manhattan and we're going to give you an opportunity in a little while we're going to open up our phone line so those that are calling right now we're not going to the phone 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want we just want to know if there's some peace talks go ahead Rabbi Shapiro and ra and uh is from the weeder from their blood so we're on the radio so I just want to get a handle from both of you let me speak to you is so is this real o is there are they talking is there going to be continuation or just just getting together for the rally and they go back your separate ways after the rally are you there can you hear me is okay we're can you hear me we can hear you okay we're going to reesta we're going to just fix that find out what the problem is we're going to be right back don't go away talk line over wmca 570 a.m. New York wjpr 1640 a.m. in Highland Park and on talkline communications.com powered by the Jet and if you're looking for our 24-hour day listen line 21241 94240 extension number one our guests right now are the organizers is the organizer of the anti-israel rally taking place later today RAB yaku shapir of the central bical Congress and Sh weer of their blond newspaper I'm just trying to get a handle of sh before we get back to R shapir we're going to take your phone calls in just a few moments but let me ask you this um are the Rees talking to one another this a Prelude to this what I started asking before we broke are they getting together more what's game plan because people want to know this as I said before is a big thing and in the previous uh couple of months they met they sat in one ballroom and they discussed together issues that is CL as I mentioned before M and so on now tomorrow they both going to attend as many other leading Grand rabbis and Rabon and uh probably as I said before we expecting a couple of 100 dignitaries and therefore the big leading Reb of the bigger congregations and yeshivas would be spread out through the Das to maximize but if our grand re of would have an ability as the masterminder of the protest he's the one who called for it last Sunday night at an special event willburg called willburg it was a an a to fight uh internet at that time um he made an announcement not not by himself but it was done in his name so if if he's going to have an ability to walk around the Das and to shake hands for each and every dignitary for each rabi rashash and say thank you for coming definitely he would Escape him and now um you say that your re you cor of Aron lab your rby too yet or that's not in the offing it's definitely we have to give respect for everybody and including okay now let me turn to Shiro and ask you so this is a satma rally that's taking place today no satma is uh going to be well represented but uh it's not any more a sar rally than um anything else that satma attends there's going to be other huses um BS is going to be there um bov is going to be there um there's going to be L Shiva is there um satma has the resources and the ability to organize such a thing uh to do the logistics but no it's not a stop morality and I I just want to ask you a question you characterized it earlier as an anti-israel rally that's quite an ambiguous uh adjective well is it is it an is it a pro-israel rally or an anti-israel rally does every rally that takes place in the world have to be pro-israel or anti-israel well let but let me tell you but are you but your billing is and you're you're it's not here to support solidarity here is you're protesting Israel is that a correct assessment of what's taking place today it depends what you mean we're here if a guy protests the Vietnam War of America is it an anti-america protest well listen I'm I'm going to read from a flyer that's posted on Failed Messiah with is a fly given out to sophomore school students the United cical Academy here's what the Flyers say I have a copy in front of here's a loose translation with the help of God suddenly there'll be a huge protest we're going to make fun of the Zionist because they're saying that K Yesa students must God for become soldiers we're not allowed to make war with the told that the stop the holy Messiah from coming protest uh will go on the way of tur with fire words will sanctify God's name so obviously sare is characterizing as an anti-israel rally it can't be any clearer than that first of all that that that that thing you read can you give me the Yiddish for those words we're going to make fun of the zionists that's a strange uh phrase to use um I I highly doubt the original it says it say that's even worse oh does that means to make fun no this is translation means even worse than Mak the so the translation was WR yes it's even is even worse destroying design that's even that's even worse no it doesn't mean destroying designers please stop with these translation by how would you translate please listen tell so you tell me I'm I'm looking at the fly over here okay so now that's what I was waiting for I'll tell you the the topic of the protest tomorrow is against the draft there's no question about it that's it it's against the draft now the fact of the matter is that that's the motivation for the draft is another thing that has to do with uh attacking our culture and trying to change us into them but the the uh issue of the day is one topic don't categorize this as anti-israel because what you're doing is you're telling the people out there that those that are against the draft shouldn't come unless they're against Israel's existence which is a false representation wait hold on everybody should you believe in the are you are you a supporter are you a supporter of the state of Israel irrelevant to the question not irrelevant to the question motivation is is a motivation part because let's put it this way let's be honest and I love the saer community but they're not pro Israel they're anti the state of Israel right that's the qu the topic of tonight's show is not the S community no but but aren't they organizing like you said they're organizing the rally so they're putting together that they're doing the logistics and they're doing that they have the ability to make this come together you're portraying this as a saic thing and that's not correct the point of the protest is to protest against the draft of Yeshiva guys anybody who's against the drafting of Yeshiva guys can be there and can join in the the purpose of the protest now it happens to be yes s is against Israel 100% no question about it but the question but the particular protest that's going on tomorrow is not about satma it's not about that it's about the DFT please don't change it to anything else please don't try to marginalize what's happening on but I look at the fly but the flyer that I read to you which sent that to the that they're going to that they're going to embarrass the zionists because of what they're doing now even if somebody accepts state of Israel that's still true they deserve to get a punch in the face for what they're doing they deserve to be spoken out against for what they're doing but they haven't done anything to do but you and I agree that they haven't this legislation is being contemplated hasn't been finalized it's going to go through irr point it hasn't been finalized oh so you're saying that since it has been finalized the protest doesn't have to do with the draft it has to do with Israel right no wrong it's about the draft the fact that it hasn't been finalized I I didn't I answer that already the fact that it hasn't been finalized means that's easier now to to abolish it then after it's finalized you're trying to say that since the draft hasn't been implemented therefore it must be not against the draft what no I didn't say you listen you having this against against the draft but I'm just saying but there is there is an ulterior motive over here which is fueled by a certain agenda that's in right which they you're saying you're saying that somebody is not against Israel but he is against the TR he has no reason to protest listen you have leading Russia Shas including rki that come out against the protest right you have L Rabbi who which leading Rivas that have come out for the protest and no leading Risha who's come out against the protest said it has anything to do with anti-israel the only person that I've heard said that is EV brener and still I haven't heard a reason well listen I read to a hold on hold I read to you a flyer that's being distributed on F doesn't say it's an anti-israel protest it says an anti excuse me anti-zionist protest no it doesn't say anti-zionist protest it says that there why are you misquoting a flyer that was given out to kindergarten kids that was mistranslated on a Blog what the flyer says is that they're going to um uh they're going to embarrass the Zionist because of what they're doing yes that's true they are and they deserve to be because of what they're doing because of the trft and that's what we're going to do it's the zionists that have uh uh governments of Israel that have implemented or trying to implement this this draft and we're coming out against that now that's it the beginning and the end it was fire L and Z we're going to take phone calls in just a few moments our numbers at 1925 sh weer so you perceive this as being a sopur rally with get other participation how do you view it no it's not a not R it's United voice of the American Jury we in droes to protest to protest against the recent decision by the Israeli government to force Orthodox Jews to serve in its Army we're going to you said many leading russas came out against this rally can you name at least two has lein come on board for the r you've tried very hard to bring onard come out against can you name on did come out the hold on rally I just qu R keski ketki that's one that's keski and Israel keski and Israel came out against the rally too he did first of all he's not a he's not a Riva I asked you for two Rivas In America which is what you said he's a goar fine I give him one second one second one second he came out against it but there's another letter that says he came out for it correct are you aware of that I have a handwritten letter that's been emailed to me it's on world news youare that a handwritten letter not written by him that somebody asked him this is what he said agreed there is such a letter I know about it but are you aware that there's another letter now I have a question there's another letter where it says that one of the participants in the rally asked him and that he said that he's for it are you aware of that yes or no I'm unaware of that and by the way an accw hold according to and also quotes s that demonstration should be made okay another name talking about this rally let me ask you something question what was the question posed to rim Ki there two conflicting letters granted agreed what was the question post kesi how is the rally described do you know does it say in that letter that this rally on this day shouldn't go to what is what was the question that was asked do you know I I'm just just gone by the letter that I have I don't have the information I wasn't in the room letter say what question was asked sir do you know what the question were you there in the room as well I'm I'm asking you I'm asking you a question were you are you aware of that I'm asking you I'm I'm ask you're telling me that you know that they're too conf you have the correct one some C no I didn't say anything about the correct one I just asked your question you said that letter coming out against this rally I asked you a question do you know the question that was asked ESI to which he answered no rally obviously the the question was posed to him about this he he was written oh it was what why is that keski of the russan of Philadelphia wrote after been asked by many people I'm reading on quote to you from Yeshiva world.com the r hold on hold on the Riva Philadelphia which he wrote after being asked by many people if they should participate in a sopore organized anti-israel rally Manhattan scheduled for this Sunday in the letter of kineski says that he received a letter this morning signed by the where he affirmed that the position of that not be made since there is no to them but people should increase their Torah right okay so now he said should not be made now let me read you a letter uh from I'll translate in English as I'm reading he says that um it's a big Mitzvah that everybody should goes to this rally that's taking place uh on this Sunday and um also R keski said the same thing I asked him through his son exactly uh what the story is and he said that he agrees that we should do everything to make objections in um and this rally should be should happen now we have a conflicting letter could you Mr brener explain what the differen is between the two letters so that it's not but more you know that these letters were written about 24 hours you know you Les you don't know what people have been saying but I'm just telling ketki was asked that and let me ask you a question before hold on hold on let me ask you a question let me ask you a question before we break you've been trying to get lake with Yeshiva on board were you successful getting lake with Yeshiva on board of the demonstration today yes or no were you suc hold on were you successful what do you mean on board participatory go participatory in the in the thing in the rally today participate not partici no it's that question is irrelevance that's not irrelevant question that's a relevant question because the discussion is you said people have come out again so if I've asked you T name to you have not been able there no Comm gave me a letter the fact that somebody doesn't want to participate doesn't mean he's against something there are plenty of reasons that people don't ketki quoted he said no don't participate again again no he said ketki he said no no right to all rallies no rallies are good but specifically about this rally and he said no to this rally and any other including including this listen no no listen to me number one the SCH coming he said no to all rounds including that he was specif about this one he said no to this understood understood he's the only one that has come out like that you said many Ras he's it that's it now spons all Ras have come out for it big deal is this the first issue that you're aware of that there are differences of opinion between Russia Yeshiva is it of course there always but but if somebody but hold on but if you ask Russia Shiva like Lakewood and you ask them to participate and they don't isn't that speaking volumes too no it's the why you're not participating at the today are they participating about anything let tell you but I'll tell you what we're going to let the hon um the people listen no no no no no no no don't let anything please please bear with me I'm going to explain to you the difference between the two letters of kki okay okay that you're holding okay the letter that you're reading the letter that you're reading the letter that you're holding says haon is a bear the letter that that I'm reading the letter that I'm holding says M are good you know the difference between a M ha do you know haon means in Israel you about the demonstrations that they pan yeah do you know what happens in that demonstrations in Israel do you know that do you know what happens in demonstrations do you think that we're going to be burning garbage cans do you think that we're going to be conflicting with the police no none of that is happening of course those have Gunners are bad and if you ask to make especially do you know that that the last ha somebody wrote stuff put up posters and he wrote B things about R Steinman and do you know that they they they dropped a a garbage can or something on police of course that's bad I understand that so saying don't do that that's nothing to do with what we're doing over here we're making a not a there's a big difference now I'm sure that one of the blogs when they translated they won't know the difference but there's a very big difference this is a peaceful without conflict without saying anything bad about anybody a United rally with satma with B with Bubba with other L shishi nobody's going to be conflicting with any police this is not what they call in isra no there's not going to be a violent demonstration nobody even has the thought over here that this going to be a violent demonstration not going to not going to be anything like any of that took place in Israel about this it's not going to be like any of those and that's the answer between the contradiction and the letters of one says H the other says there's a very big difference and we believe that what we're doing we're planning and um I'll give you very strong evidence that the difference I'm saying is true the letter that you're holding as I said doesn't say anything about the question that was post to the question about demonstration and you find conflict when we come back we'll tackle that point our guest and you here we're going to take your phone calls when we come back and have you Chim in as well is representing the central ble Congress organizer of an anti-israel draft rally taking place in Manhattan and Fring to Raku Shapiro the spokesman sham weer is the editor of their blot newspaper when we come back your phone calls at 22769 1925 you want to email us Z at talkline communications.com we're going to be right back don't a service of Salem Communications we have with us rako shapir the central bical Congress of spokesman for the anti-israel draft rally taking place weer the editor of their blot and we're going to take your phone calls right now let's go to Long Island Jeff and Long Island you have a question for our guest go ahead Jeff and Long Island um yeah I wanted to know um I think it's a wellknown fact that the state of Israel has been supporting the Sheilas for since practically since his Inception with a lot lot of money so R was saying that they're protesting against the draft and I think that it should be they should show a little gratitude to the state of Israel for giving so much money to Thea and not protest against them like the way that they doing any gentlemen want to tackle that yeah sure um two things first regardless of what they've done in the past uh what they're doing now what they're going to do in the future uh the fact of the matter is that the draft is a bad thing it's a terrible thing and therefore we have a right to protest it the United States of America has done very uh wonderful things for very many people but certain times they do things that people protest and it's not a contradiction to anything else however I do want to say this we know that the state of Israel is founded on the uh idea of normalizing the Jewish people in fact more important than having a state a territorial um solution to what they call to the Jewish problem was the normalization of the Jewish people the elimination of the gas Jew and replacing him with the new Hebrew and they've been trying for not 60 years since the beginning of Medina but even before that for about 100 years but certainly since the beginning of the Medina to change us into them bris said that the zionists don't want to Jews in order to make a Medina they want to make a Medina in order to the Jew they don't want to the Jews but anyway thank you for your phone call continue yes okay and have so you don't say you don't say racist but let me let me by the way hold on hold on we have to move a little fast to Pace because we have a lot of people and let me add by the way you that Bub is not participating in the rally just want to make that clear well and and there therefore the fish doesn't owe gratitude to the fisherman for giving him a worm we know why they're supporting these Shas why they supporting the that's part of the process is that they want control over the that's not why this that's part of the Electoral problem we have elected officials from shots in the where they're part of the thing you can call me Z Now by the way mat.com is reporting I disagree you absolutely disagree with me I know you dis we're coming from different points of view I might add by the way that there mav.com is posting a letter from the sons of Moran R Kan to confirm his opposition to the protest so you you can say that I must remind you that that's the exact same letter that you read before and if you would have seen the letter You' see you're talking about the same letter twice two people posted it the letter of Mor the sons of Mor confirming the letter that you read before and I agree I there's nothing to confirm it's yes did write that everybody agrees the question is is it applicable to our situation okay let's take some phone let's let's go a Yi Brock in Brooklyn Yi has been very patiently waiting you have a question for our guest go ahead pleas yesi quick quick we have a lot of people waiting to come on okay Z thank you very much for giving me the opportunity tonight with gratitude as president of the blot I would like to applaud and honor of as weer for being the first one to write about this problem in our weekly newspaper the bloed and from that day on he he never stopped to his credit over 100,000 people will show up tomorrow's Administration he'll be a huge K and credit is given when credit is due okay many of our list are going to say it's going to be a just want you know I'm not I'm not done yet okay go ahe also I also like to than IT gck director foram for courageous decision pass Wednesday afternoon to join with all of his repal members to mil demonstration and Z let me tell you one thing to R Shapiro it smell the coffee you ever heard this expression it smells like a dog it walks like a dog eats like a dog it's s It's s it's a s demonstration whether he likes it or not and it is anti-israel including the draft okay you're Rabbi Superior you hear it directly a member of the the boy of the blot the member of the community saying what it you what you trying to say but if it if it looks like a duck and Walks Like A Duck it is a duck that's what you're saying okay Rabbi shapir so he's saying this is a morality that's getting other people involved which is what we've been saying all along that's it's Define sub Mor Al please organized by the S Community both factions including the issue and they're the one not moral that they're getting other people involved with nobody disagrees with that if that's how you want to Define it I know that they're organizing it I said they are however the motivation for coming there the reasons that people have to come there are equally valid the reasons are equally strong whether you're s or not if you're against the draft you belong there and yes s is against is there no question about and the people that are going to be there the lith of this I'm step probably against Israel too I would imagine I mean why would you imagine you're anti-israel Jews but that's not the topic but you're changing your topic because originally you said it's anti- dri I say they're anti-israel but okay no that's not true don't don't don't please you said that you said you just said right now they're probably anti-israel the people probably are but the protest is not the topic is not the existence of Israel the topic is the DRFT the people probably are I said it then and I'll say it now she saying the people are going to be coming and to be anti-israel primarily it's probably are not probably 101% this the let me make it very clear to you so this is an anti-is rally is what these are let me finish these are the people withs these are the people who have been doing it for the last 60 years came out in New York City demonstrating whether it was where was all the problems we had with Israel now it's the draft but it is a anti-israel which this whole demonstration was created and as the of the blood he brought his first problem out in the newspaper and to his credit the 100,000 people or more will show up tomorrow is because the blood the first one who made a way of this problem and it's K the TOA and the people are coming on the on who believe in no about thank you for clarifying and making clear what the purpose of the rally is today thank you goodbye this issue clarifying and making clear when I said it it's just somebody saying it he's clarifying and making clear no he but he's saying that that you say that it's an dis agreeing with me that's clarifying so what he says it comes T Seth thank you CL by the way this is on this issue I agree with Rao and I disagree with J okay let's see what everybody else has to say let's go to Lakewood New Jersey thank you for waiting Lakewood New Jersey I believe it's Usher and Lakewood you have a question or comment for our guest go ahead us sure are you there from Lakewood if not we'll go to Dena in Manhattan okay Dena in Manhattan uh your turn to speak to Our Guest go ahead Dena Manhattan yes go ahead hello you're on the air go ahead oh yes oh hi I just wanted to say I just I'm just really so upset um I just feel this is anti- Torah um and this is reminds me of just a couple of weeks ago we read the para about the spies going into Israel and coming out and speaking badly of Israel I think this is so anti Hashem Torah and I'm so disappointed in my fellow Jews that were not trying to come together when have a conference rent a hotel room let's talk about this civil instead of screaming and yelling what is the Gentile World think of us when we can't even get our own act together and what about the poor Israelis who who are fighting every day for their lives um and to maintain the Jewish State what about them this this these people you know with all the respect they sound so arrogant and uncaring of a fellow Jew a fellow life and I just find it very I'm going to let our guest respond to because interest of Tomas right there please be to the point we have a lot of people calling we have a lot of emails to get to on the first question I will ask sh weer about the making this kind of a conference in a hotel room what is happening now in the state of Israel is there some reform woman are trying to come to the Cel and um and pray and it was the leading rushi shivas that called for a protest they didn't say please come to B and make a conference if it come out come out with dropes at front of the cotel and make a protest and that protest uh last time was by throwing chairs and even maybe X on the police and on the woman from the the hotel so why did they understand that you are allowed to make a protest in cannot do it here okay she hung up but we appreciate let me read you an email that came in it should be stated right by Shapiro is a nephew of the l s r of old title B and used to visit his house in Williamsburg he gave a strong speech to Miami Beach this past summer and a memorial there where the re yorai was observed he has for years been trying to promote a sovereign type of anti iism among the litvak Yesa world he doesn't represent the maining litvac opinion two you should mention the program of demonstration is a event with speaker speaking in Yiddish with small exceptions the should be aware of this and not fall into tra being used by Soper and their allies for the propaganda purposes Rabbi Shapiro your response um I'm in Grand nephew the S through his wife um I'm not S I don't have any s in hug and I um I never went any s um as far as what do he say s world he said he trying to engage the lital world in anti-zionism to promote the Satur agenda this is what the femer is is pling whoever El this is not aware of what the satma agenda is there is a idea out there that anybody who's anti- Zionist must be and that's where this guy's coming from the fact of the matter is it's not true as far as the the the um mainstream L World speaking tomorrow at the um rally will be there than to Hill him I think these are very mainstream people none of them are s by the way actually a with cuz there was a kid who learned there many years ago who's a grand nephew SBA and actually Z Brena has a shus with Saka because 35 years ago when he had a aution store on Avenue J he had a custom of his Grand nephew the S well I had an ation store I did know but I had an ation store in Staten Island by the way was Avenue Jane 14th Street no no 15th no no when I had that no but I had one in sta about 30 some years ago but listen I listen I'm a big fan of the S community and both sides on this issue I think we're going to disagree Florida on on a on the SATA now I don't represent anybody except myself but the idea that only s is against Zionism is something is a propaganda that's perpetrated by many many people and anybody who went to any mainstream you she knows it's not true bu WR that email certainly didn't but by the way I might add that Buba you said before is going to particip is not participating bills I'm getting emails told you that is BBA somebody somebody said Bubba was particip did not participate I'm just making it clear for the who told you they're not I'm getting some emails that bu is not participating who you're getting emails so you're you're tell me officially bub and bills are officially participating bills there's two bub do you know which Bubba you got an email from and you're getting emailed so hold on so so I'm asking you hold on so you tell me are both bubs participating in your rally tomor no I got here's the thing my information over here which I get from the organizers of the the rally is that bells and at least one bub is participating now you get an email that says no and suddenly becomes fact hold on so you're telling me one bub one Bubba VI and one bub send you that email I'm asking you a question did both saying one is not is bills partici I have bills said they're not yes yes okay fine so that's why I'm asking the you're tell mea I'm asking you a question to his participated then you can announce that is but but you tell me leg with his part you tried getting leid but you failed in getting L with the particip I sent you an email that L with's participating then you'll say it is you know what it's the fact that you tried very hard to get L with to participate and you didn't get them on board your organization from what's the difference does it make your organ ation TR and let's get where were you getting your information from is lakid participating you you met with lakid you met with the L they participating yes or no in the rally no are they hello okay let's let's take some more phone calls and let's see if we can get some other people hear and what they have to say let's go to dovy and Long Beach New York doy and Long Beach New York are you there doy and Long Beach doy yes Doby you have a question for our guas yes I'm I'm here and I'm just letting you know from yes I'm in a pretty I'm pretty big Yesa now I don't know as far as the politics aspect of it I just know one thing there's nobody in the Yesa world as far as all my friends as going to this Rally or they're not going to this rally thinking this rally is an anti-israel rally now the the people that are running the rally could be there at the Israel but under this uh rally of from olderman section of kol everybody's just coming for one reason which I feel is for anti the okay so so are you going to the rally are you going do are you going to the rally with members of Y Yesa tomorrow my Isa is not going to the rally no okay are you going to the are you going to the rally I'm not I have to follow what my Isa does okay I just I just want one thing that means they have their they have their on them they have their re they follow and they have their things they do now just because we come together doesn't mean all sudden we all agree to everything they say and do we have our M they have their M but to this one thing is the publicide were just going against the r about drafting I don't understand how they got ever got born proportion you know I have hundreds of aam you know that we all on this together an the draft it's not an is is that mean if the organizing that means also all the hundreds of thousands of people out there that's what anti Israel well that's what's being portrayed is that they're organizing the rally so they have an agenda which is broader you have some that participant that may be just anti the draft but certainly they're the ones that putting it together I appreciate the your phone call and we're going to take a break and we come back we continue our conversation we'll take your phone calls at 22769 1925 22769 1925 you want to email us it's Zev at talkline communications.com