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BR welcome back Rabbi Dr
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5785 we have a special episode about the
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Ado Rabbi Dr BR now giving over and
preparing this year has been one of the
hardest of any the she I've recorded to
date and the reason is simple I've
pretty much spent many years working
researching this topic I fell into this
rabbit hole and I've never gotten out of
it I feel that time allowed to speak
about it it cannot do a proper justice
but that's life so I'm going to try to
mention broadly some of the sources for
this topic when I was young at some
point I heard about for my grandmother
she would
say as your Mas is going to sleep at the
time I assumed it was one of these old
wives tales that some said just like you
know not to
whistle and all these other types of
things when you get a little older you
learn you start learning whatever and
you see it's open
in then there's this parentheses that
says
so even though it says thisi the um does
not necessarily mean that the ra wrote
it it seemed most likely the parentheses
is not from the Rama okay so basically
we see that there was a Min not to sleep
it says specifically in the day of rash
and adds in three
words so first of all he never uses such
language he doesn't go out of his way
even though the Rama is famous we've
discussed this in other episodes he goes
very into minhag but he doesn't spell
out that it's a
fine is there something unique to this
Min question is this just is there an is
because if you look in certain P it
sounds like it's more like it's maybe
even some type of
V when is it is it during the day or the
night Umama says clearly it's during the
day what's the reason behind it I just
said it saysi but it's notomi or maybe
it
isi
and like always for the for centuries we
had certain sources and then different
sources come to light as time goes on
and today hopefully we'll discuss some
of the newer some newas in this topic
when is this is does it when does that
start does it start from the way from
the morning when the day begins what
about after what about the second day
and last what about AAR CH and there's
any many other questions that come up
and we're going to briefly touch on some
of these today fine so what everyone
knows when you're learning what's the
first place you look you look in the
dark says
the this is his work um on the tour he
says so here he's giving it that it's
and where is it in
R so here it's interesting it sounds
like you not to sleep on R it doesn't
say no longer does it say those words
which changed and add furthermore it's
now giving us some context where it's
coming from supposedly in rashash and
the third thing is what's the what's
behind it is like this because when you
don't sleep when you B the beginning of
the year because if you do your masle is
going to sleep not that I claim to
understand what those words mean but
that's what it says
fine so this is the Rama and this is the
and he says it'si Fine an earlier Source
than the
was a I've quoted in the past which was
a work of on publish in right before the
Rama the M dies in 1559 it's a good
chance the Rama saw this work but the
relationship between the Rama and this
particular work needs to be investigated
I midst of investigating it in general
but in
1559 and in 1560 this is basically 13
years before the Rama is published he
publishes the following he says
so he does not say it's in R
says on someone who's sleeping when they
are doing
is so now he says he doesn't talk about
that sleeping you not to sleep when
there is a then he says based on
this so he's going back to the day which
again is what the Rama originally said
fine so you see something's going on is
now the question is and we're not going
to deal with all the technical aspects
is it the same Source not the same
Source I am pretty convinced this is not
the source of the r even though the Rama
could have seen it and they have
different sources what the source of the
mag we will see okay bottom line is
according to both them it's and if you
look further on the main let's say the
says the beer who's famous for putting
the earliest sources that he knows on
topic he says over here it'si again so
it sounds like pretty simple let's open
Yi the problem is and we'll get to this
later on is we checked Yi high and low
and hundreds of people have checked and
there is no such Yi in our standard Yi
finea going a little further the Lush
who is famous for bringing his re Rama
many m a lot of material from him and
adding to it and he's very very intimate
he doesn't even talk about this which is
very strange we don't find this so
common is there a reason for it we move
a little
further
sorry he
says so he's already giving a time frame
for it and then he
says and he brings down the like it says
in the maged which he did happen to own
we know this from other places that you
don't sleep while there's a din going on
then he
says this is a famous line that we have
in many other
sources quot it also other episodes Dy
and the of
thei okay so now at this point we're not
seeing any iser we're we're we're
pointing out to some clarity in uh
what's the source and what's the
reasoning for so now it sounds like and
we're not going to get into the
nitty-gritty of this but basically like
this some people hold it's problematic
to sleep why very simple if you sleep on
rashash your masle is also going to
sleep and what that what that means is a
you have there's a it's not your mle bad
luck it's more like you have a Mal
that's M for you when there is a din
going on and that will be sleeping if
you're sleeping and that's what it has
to do with and therefore that's only
when the din is mish happening so let's
say we we will establish what time the
din happens on rash that's where it will
be and possibly after some people will
suggest that the din is no long the din
is not happening after so then you'll be
able to sleep in the afternoon that
would be the possibility and that's how
they understand this and you could see
where it's coming from in the because
says
it's okay others um
suggest it's nothing it's not about your
Mas is going to sleep or your is going
to be it's basically like this there's a
y happening if someone sleep R he's
showing that he doesn't have a fear of
the and of the and according to this it
would sound like it doesn't make a
difference not the afternoon the whole
day you shouldn't be able to sleep
according to that after according to
that some say maybe even at night okay
so this is the beer bones of the
reasoning behind the Min okay so so
first I keep on saying what about the
night if you look at the again if you
look at the way the Rama brings down the
where
says already in the
beautiful published in 1881 he
says not sleep and then he
says there were people he was aware of
people that did not sleep so the
question is are there others so we have
to say this RAB the kenberg it's brought
down he was sounds like he took to he
did not sleep on even at night others
brings down we have other sources um
from other that some people in al they
did stay up and they were learning and
them the whole night of most people did
not now there's two NAS for this number
one is when does the den start what does
that mean does it then start at night so
we have a strong indication a famous
gumar that's brought for this
conversation
and basically his wife found out about
it and she threw him out of the house
and he
goes and when he's
there and they tell them what they he
overhears them saying what was
already now when was this he sleeping
the Bak rash according to the pasas so
he's and he's overhearing what was said
already so it sounds like there was some
type of dinner ready rashash and we're
going to get back to this Kamar a little
bit there's a lot to say about this if
this is really even happening rash but
for now we're for today's Focus it's
rash or some other choices now the point
is so we see that there's a which would
be which would fit with the theen or
what the May is bringing down but as
says is it's talking about cuz the the
night is created for sleeping it's a
standard time when people sleep and we
have many slept we have this
through
in talks about a dream that he
had and he wasn't sure if he has to fast
and he went
ask we have others we have the mag the
where we have dreams of the so it sounds
like he also slept and the past say
people sleep on r
but as I said this is if you're taking
thei literal of okay but we've speak
spoken about this minut we've we'
discussed
thisi and we mentioned this we don't
have thisi what is is there any good
sources early sources for this meting
besides so the B first published in 1640
he brings down that there's a safer
known as the IB and the IB says
this is what he brings down
from and then he
says F so we see from here a few pieces
of very important information number one
one we now have what's possibly the
earliest source for this minute and that
is rishu IB who is rishu he's a tal of
the Raja we don't know much about him
but we know he was a tremendous
tremendous person Professor Cary Hartz
devoted a whole fulls siiz book on him
very interesting book and basically we
have his Dres that he gave it seems he
gave them um every week we don't know
exactly all the details
and it's been published a few times
they're simply incredible as we're going
to talk a little bit more about them
soon now even though by today many many
people know oh what's the earliest
sour very few people went ahead and
opened up to rishu and saw the context
of what rishu was talking about for the
most people knew knew about it either
through secondary or third sources or
through this B which is fine but it
wasn't such a common safer it wasn't it
was published only in the 1500s
published twice and then that was it so
the question is is rishu the for
the now it sounds like possibly yes but
the of if you look at it very carefully
and the of the and the r tell tells you
to R it doesn't sound like it's really
it's the same thing furthermore if the
ra had that that this that the sources
from he probably would have said so and
I would have think he would bring from
him more he Punk got to say for one time
there's so much more very important
information testimonies about re the Raj
that he brings down
different okay so
now the point is the Rama um if the r if
the r is from how does he know about it
l was published in the 1520s was the
first time was published maybe Rama had
it maybe not was published in C right
after
F who we said is one is the earlier
Source than the ra for this many it's
clear he did have the Rish we have this
from other possible places and from this
L also it sounds like his marar is the
question
is this is a and we don't have
any doesn't bring this down
interestingly enough seemed to have seen
he brings it down for something else why
not this is a different question we
don't know why okay but bottom line is
this B once we have this B this is what
this was a game changer because we have
now bringing from
Yi now many people do not bother to go
look F further once we now have
the because it was common enough that we
didn't bring things from Yi and we don't
have it but even furthermore many people
were not bucking Yi so so you could say
it'si and people didn't know Yi was not
so well learned even in the after the
printing
press the B brings down at the end over
here in this piece that weot now he
bring down that the and what the for
thisi and what's going on behind it
which we'll discuss but he says that
theam Rutenberg what did he do he slept
on rashash like all and it's interesting
because this B is quoted as a strong
cooler by many the he brings down the he
brings he
says like this to
sleep me say he thinks it's it's really
should it's really better not to sleep
we
haveen
slept fine also because of
this we mentioned already early on that
the strangely enough does not bring this
down
saysa CU he holds like this B Bame the
marami Rutenberg that he slept and
therefore he didn't have to bother to
bring it
down but the question is do we have
othert so the answer is we
have which we we've already discussed
numerous times in different in different
episodes was only published in from
manuscript a little more than 100
something years ago this is that the the
also slept similar
toiber F but we have no idea if the Mami
Rutenberg slept or that the Truman slept
is because they knew thisi and they held
still you could sleep or they didn't
even know about thisi that's a
possibility anyway many people bring
down
says he went to sleep so this many
people bring down we have not only do we
have thei renberg not only do we have us
today the but we now have the slept
says you want to bring a
from sleep he's being so don't bring me
R from the and in general many times we
find that this is a huge discussion
let's say now we know thatal did
something what does it have to do with
us thatal he could sleep whatever
reasons not to sleep he could sleep and
it's possible to explain this based on
something very welln there numerous
sources for this that basically when
when darel used to sleep he was is
learning the whole time will listen and
they would hear him talking and learning
and we have a lot of different M to such
a things similarly you can include this
probably that morami Rutenberg and the
trades and also when they went to sleep
they were learning the the rights that
why what in he talks about sleeping he
says this amazing what one could learn
the learns and it goes up as opposed if
he's awake down here so like
this so I would say that it's not
necessarily for all of us regular at
least for myself I'm not necessarily I
don't believe I'm learning in my sleep
I'm sleeping in my sleep so therefore
the point is the when they slept this we
understand what's going on but just
because they sleeping it does not
necessarily mean we can sleep so just
because we find that did
okay um we find certain said
the he says you should not sleep should
and that's what the
is writes about himself and he was well
aware of what was he writes in his and
he writes we have different of his he
did not sleep on at
all we find also the the Nazir shimin
writes according to the
not to sleep
okay which
is the that every that many people rely
on for he says when he's talking
um even though let's say you going eat
to sud and then there's time to sleep a
little
until now then he says key words
but he says still you should learn and
this is what the MIM says one should do
he talks about saying the whole which is
a whole saying on earlier we find the
say says the same thing not to sleep on
rashash Shana during the day F but so
many people are m so the truth is just
to point this out a lot of times today
when you ask this question a person
doesn't even understand the he's daving
he he comes he's right before he's
barely even able to make KES many people
that di in un certain yes also they
finish Mish right before so they don't
even understand this whole de of this
conversation sort of like a not a
conversation anyway over here says he
brings down he
says so this changes everything the the
is saying that the said one could sleep
me say maybe you can't bring me
from and maybe even you're going to tell
me that was learning in his sleep but
here that saying that the point is at
least the way the that he had of this AR
was passing it m to sleep now there's a
few points that one needs to be made
number one he and then he brings down
the brings down that from
the slept but then he says
but and some people just sat and did
nothing clut around that's also
worthless
now the question is we is theal the way
the mag brings it down and that's a
mystery although we know most of the
that the mag quotes where they're from
this one so far I'm unable to
finda who another point over here is in
general is who said that Aral is and is
dealing with that results the same time
as the r ra is not out yet he saw
there's no indication that he could have
seen that he did see the so who said he
even knew about and when one looks
carefully into the various M that talk
about in the from about and sleeping
on there's no mention it's it talks
about whatever happens on in these
cabalistic terms way above my pay grade
then says and all the different and all
the different things that one could that
or even as as far as says it that one
can sleep
after
fine um when one looks in the various
you could see everyone has many people
bring down like this that one could
sleep and had understand that just to
point one over here the the when he
talks about it he says like
this he says it's based Oni and then he
says
that's what happens that's what it
means and when one's sleeping that
doesn't happen because we're not
obviously to point that we're not who
learning learning in our sleep if when
you're awake and you're battling so then
the Mal is also not activating is not
acting so that it might be to if you're
not if you're M if you're just going to
waste time might be to go to sleep
anyway fine after everything is said and
done it sounds like there's something
much more greater going on over here and
that's what I believe is happening and
that's why the r is M over here where
something that he does not say anywhere
else and that he says is a not to
sleep and and that is as follows when
one starts
learning you see that the date is full
of
contradictions on one hand we find you
people are have a lot of sudas
and it's brought
down
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says still there's something known as
there's a according to to be
like not only that everyone points to
that
says so it's talking about eating and
what are you
eating okay
do we say H or not so famous
famous why do we say is because has to
do with some type
of when the and everything is happening
you're going to be saying Shir I
understand we just got finished saying
make up your mind the some type of the
another eating meat so we just read
the one of the the time of the year that
one supposed to
have and eat them meat p is one of them
is rash yet we know the Mal told them
not to eat meat and this is a
whole what the story behind it is so
what's going on is it do you or don't
you have do these things another thing
we have the had not to eat fish on rash
why not there's
a another we find in already brought
down and about this that they did not
normally we they D which means is they
slouch down some people the whole some
people even the whole d a whole whole
about this in and
onwards why so the M Brewer already
explains
okay so there some type of thing of
another fasting up till now I said
there and some people eat even meat but
there's other M from that that that some
people are one should fast so going on
back and forth
is another thing some people wear K or
big and in big past has to do with to
remind us big day so is it a what's the
day of rash so this is part of this is a
great mystery of rashash when one learns
Rashana back and forth you you could
find makus each way and different anagas
and not only that even the different
anagas could be interpreted different
ways and each one is its own
B the truth is that already from El
we're focused on
Thea um salous for saying that used to
be that people as soon as they heard the
call of when they
said whether was during ping or whatever
the that you had or the famous stories
of people
fainting already from the beginning of L
people's minds were focusing on the
great thing that's about to happen and
rash
wasit wrote a where he collects from all
different of many different throughout
eler and we see the focus for many was
they were thinking about the the whole
time Ando they were very some people
hador and numerous numerous long lists
of
anas but the point is okay but what is i
i as I'm pointing out there seems to be
some type of
conflict he also points to this that AER
even a on one hand it's supposed to
scare you but let's say in the bdash
when they when they when they did it
when they blew theer was not to scare
you furthermore he points to we
mention
also basically is it a day of or is a
day
of the answer is that it's there's a and
it's supposed to be somehow at this um a
mixed hanh mean say supposed to be and
realize and integral that it's a at the
same time and is ding on on life and on
parosa and all different
things at the same time there's also
supposed to be a level of and this is a
very very
hard because on one hand because of this
concept that there is supposed to be a
fe you're supposed to be fearing you
have a fear that it is the a of the so
they were different on hugus that had
they took upon themselves different on
hugus he didn't need fish because that
was he didn't want to be he like he
enjoyed fish we have marus about that so
he didn't want to forget and different
people that's what they did that's what
the same thing with the K that's and
that's what's going on over here with SH
rashash a lot of times when you look at
let's say rashash so what's rashash
rashash is is the Sher and daving and
then there's all these different types
ofh theh start with whether it's
with all these different things for many
people the even though theh are
secondary a lot of them have much later
sources it's not it's not about the
which
or for the a lot of times the that's
what helps the so to speak get into the
and to feel so it's not that is when one
looks at all the M over here most most
the makis don't say the words AER they
say just to quote just the main early
source that we quoted is the does not
use the
words and even when he brings down the
what does he
say not and which the point is but sleep
very simple if I tell you that you can't
eat meat big deal
say e chicken or some people don't care
as much tell you let's say fish some
people I don't like fish big deal
sleeping is very important for most
people so I tell you you can't sleep and
you can't take your your your nap on
chabas afternoon for some people that's
already that's already way how they feel
the the day so to speak so that's pus
it's a possibility it's not about the
action it's about what's supposed to be
the what comes from it what comes from
it is I'm now being
marish I'm not sleeping now what are you
supposed to do oh that's a great
question you're not supposed to just
time waste time that's what whole
emphasis if
you B it's worthless you're supposed to
be learning or saying to and there's a
ton of m a wholeo about a different
episode about saying to finishing to
already some people have the minut
from um already the beginning of some
people say over the a whole sa for over
R it was there's a lot about that
another thing is learning T so again I
said it's funny is that if you look
inelt yes daving of ends very late ends
very late M close to there's no time to
even learn but if you look the there's a
famous of the ran ran gave his on rash
and it's I it for sure took hours to say
even if you want to even if you want to
make up a possibly that it was done over
maybe more than one year but it's clear
there was plenty of time it wasn't done
in the break for 10 minutes similarly
this rishu hisha that's Mar for
sleeping it's a whole that he gave on
rashash it's clear from the whole thing
and it's Pages it's fascinating it took
it took a long time to say over there's
no question that they would say that
they were learning that rash in in those
days that was there was something about
it and and part of it is it created
great now go to to go into this even a
drop a drop more so and that's part of
what to bring this point out I'm G to do
it through
rishu rishu has this Russia over here
about rashash Shana so what does he do
many times he begins with a pkim over
here he deals with peric P Al which we
know many people link it already the
gamar already links it to
um Russia shanu so now he's starts out
with a Kasha that Kasha is a bomb Kasha
which many people ask and that
is why does the when it talks about rash
which is the and MIT it doesn't talk
about it
only why
isn't and this is something that this
this is the theme that he wants to deal
with throughout his drush over
here now he has many different and he
canly through this drasa even though he
goes off to talk about many other things
about the rash
he keeps on coming back to this question
and and therefore he deals wither he
deals with and he deals with what once
he deals with the that we start we
mentioned
the and he says interestingly enough he
brings down some people said it was
during a dream he says no it was when he
was awake and it was AES and he over and
he and he heard
what was being said and this is a
whole anyway and he talks about the
conflicting things that are going on in
this day is it a day of or is it a day
of and and it's that's the whole point
that he says he brings
down before his time he's um that they
heard there was unbelievable things that
were happening scary
things and which is I don't even know
how to explain that L he brings down
from the RBA his RAB
shal that it's not in our comprehension
to understand all the different aspects
and that's why the Ty didn't write about
it and he deals with this also
with f now in the course of this whole
conversation so he also and he he has
it's incredible and as I said this is
definitely not a drasa that he said in
10 minutes it's a Dr that took hours he
builds it up he goes into all different
topics you see yed in all different
things we mentioned the topic of of of
Kaa during daving so he brings down the
of the r he
says others do it just
by then he says
this is all of his again V to feel the
day this that's part of what's going on
here so now in the course of all this at
one point he brings down towards the
beginning he so interesting at one point
he's talking about the din of
rashash and and he goes by also another
conversation is the din on the is it a
on the the nees on the Goof and he
brings different M about it again the he
brings up again theas and then he brings
down and then he says how do I know that
it's
a so we see from this clearly that it's
a on
every so here we
have his usage of now he already usesi
in the beginning of his and what does he
say in the beginning ofi in the
beginning of the he goes like
this as I said the the question that's
bothering him throughout this D is why
is it not open why is the T not open
about rash so then he brings down a
famous rambam that every mus begins or
says somewhere
in okay this is a kit of the rambam and
therefore you blow shaer to wake one up
then he says
so here he uses a
of you're there's a d going on upstairs
about you and you're sleeping this is a
this is showing so it's not so here in
the course of the DHA and the course of
the context of the whole whole story
what's happening is and he's building it
off going further from the rambam he's
he's dealing with this to answer his
question what is bothering
him and that is why the Tyra does not
say openly about
rashash and the point is that we see
over here there's a Auda of
atas that you
um now going further the schah
interestingly enough says a
he
brings we know this from other places
then he
says if you st just doing
nothing it's considered
sleeping if you're awake and you're not
doing anything that's considered
sleeping that's what does so we see over
here that it's not so much it's not even
though even though as opposed to ra uses
a of it's the point is it's a and that's
what I'm trying to claim it's part of
the feeling of the
Day a different question which relates
to all this and once we're throwing this
out there once we're talking about the
is what about other days of Y is there
anything about sleeping just like
sleeping what about other which we
know so he
to already the work of his father
published in 1597 also that possibly
this Yi would be related to then also
okay anyway at this point we're just
going to be talk about briefly a few um
four or five harus and that's how we're
going to be Mah up till now and as I
said the basically is the theme of
rashash and based on this is what to
feel to feel thisa that there's a din
going on and that's what why say because
this is a great way how one should be
concerned
is feeling what is rashash about to be
awake and be conscious that there's a
din going on now so number one and this
goes back to thisi that this with this
is like this I asked the question which
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is are there any other sources for this
topic
so the question really is how do we know
that there's no Yi about this
so of course today we know we have the
what's known as the
Baran program and and everything so you
can make searches but over the years how
did know so okay so the answer
is that they knew that there's no such
so I'm gonna mention very briefly a few
then I'm just going to get to one or
two and that's is
f number
one the there are many many yis that are
brought down it's quotes brought down in
the names of yis in and that we don't
know where they are where they got lost
some people suggest oh maybei and K if
there was Ori as opposed to the B is did
not get to us B possibly
okay um this is there Auda talks about
something about he says we know that
that is notos and even the even even the
parts we have so there's always been a
quest amongst people to find
lost theal in in his work he talks about
it and he and he says many times when it
says it's materials that had it was in M
does not
mean it's a way of referring to Other M
we know many M were lost also has a
similar suggestion and and they these
who were experts in and old they said
they ready said way before the Baran
such that it didn't exist the saz he's
looking he's working on the be say he
looked he spent time looking for it may
all different people they look there's a
suggestion there was a safer called
saeri and this dealt with in of Y we and
even and and maybe it was there because
it it had to deal with rash this is
suggestion that some people have and the
point
isim is many times yis were lost and we
don't have them and it was a fascinating
conversation
amongst and these type of they would
deal with um trying to locate them and
sometimes they were lucky sometimes they
weren't one suggestion and that um is
that it was loc it was suggested by
someone a vior apitz
he noticed that c that
certain bring so he said you know what
maybe there's a like not only there not
just the
standardi maybe there's a that was like
additions added from a different point
in time and that's what these had and
was called because it was additions on
the say it was a later onto the he made
such a suggestion because he
saw that he brings a lot of and we don't
have it it was like there's too many
times that it's happening already so he
thought maybe there's such a thing L
said they did discover such a work but
over the at least parts of this work was
discovered and we don't have the M
fori on rash either anyway the point is
um without getting into all the very
boring details of this many people have
been hunting for it writing about it
seeking it out and they were not able to
find okay now let's just move on to the
um I keep on saying this to the last
point of this conversation the t t is
famous for having interesting so he
wanted to suggest like this that thei is
only is referring to it sounds strange
that is an iser to sleep or it's not
proper to
sleep okay he says the means someone
dies and the parish was and the is if
someone dies rashash it means is that
his masle his he had bad masle and has
nothing to do with sleeping
um obviously this is
a that some people don't really like
because the fact is that the the means
in numerous numerous places to sleep it
doesn't mean to die
okay he has a about it he says really to
say such a thing he's a fan of the he
wrote a but the loved thisat of his and
he said it in numerous places in his
writings and he felt there has nothing
to do with sleeping has to do with
someone who dies in that's the whole
story what it's talking about
interestingly
he has a small cute piece about it he
brings down this and he also we know he
knew me we don't have thought he says
what does it mean he says it means
sleeping um and then he says like
this it
says it doesn't say and it means like
this if
you're someone goes to sleep but if if
someone was went to B me to learn and
then he falls asleep over his
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safer then it's not a problem and and
that and which is a great Kola you go to
Yeshiva you go to learn and uh you you
hope you're not going to fall asleep but
you know you got up early so you fall
asleep then maybe it's a problem but the
point is that that's how R kki um deals
with this aspect okay hold on
um so I
mentioned that part of the questions
are what about
the okay so I I apologize wait one
second yeah this I want to be M with
four brief nasuda number one is if theud
is the so really you should as soon as
the day begins forget about the night we
already dealt with the night as soon as
the day begins that's when one should
get up so ready the
M brings a few times he says like he
says Tak from
maybe that's when because that's when
the din
starts he says like this sleeping is
what's Sleeping
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you that's only if you you go to sleep
while possibly during the day when the
Den's going on if you want to sleep at
night and you don't get up you're
dapping m in the day because you went to
sleep when it was m to go to sleep
because obviously his is that at night
is not a problem and we have a famous
thing of sh he held that if let's say um
um and other we have other places where
he's make B but the point is he has a
there's a famous of his over here let's
say there was Su and there wasn't enough
place for people to sleep so what do you
do so he said once someone falls asleep
there's no more mitzvah for him to sleep
in the Su you take him out so the point
is there's a certain way of looking at
sleeping so when you went to sleep you
were allowed to sleep there wasn't a
problem with the D so now that you're
sleeping and it's already Al you don't
have to wake up that was on the there's
others that say you should get up okay
what about during the second day so here
we have numerous sources but they refers
back to
the says when was
this that's when didn't stop and this
goes into this is all the M that there
is by if you say to your friend on the
second night of rash the is it the first
night or is it also the second night
numerous sources that say the second
night the question is how's the din
what's the day of what's the second day
of rashash where bottom line is also
held that for sure after of the second
day it's much more cool to sleep to to
be able to sleep the point I'm bringing
out is with of the second day is that it
it shifts and it's totally in the CTIC a
question of when the is three other
points one
is which relates to the EA the and all
these things that were doing for
puts this into the of
the the TR I got a lot of flack from
many people about the episode of
understanding I didn't quote to the
reason is I hope one day to deal much
greater length with just the safer so
for now I have to
be and he has
a where he's and he specifically talks
about not a problem okay one other
fascinating reason behind is found in
the mud which we just quoted earlier he
says like this normally it's brought
down you're not supposed to take a nap
during the day why not you're not
supposed to sleep more than sh which is
so normally the whole year
we're everyone knows
in that
what and you're supposed to take on
extra so we take on the extra of sim of
not sleeping during the day and you
should not sleep during the day of rash
a very reason obviously I I went down a
terrible rabbit hole with that and now
to be
Messiah new
evidence so always um centuries could go
by and we don't have any new evidence
about this topic but here we do and a
few years ago published in the journal
that came out from lak Volume 11 irz
makes a discovery a it seems to be
a um a massive collection hundreds of
pages of old different UN hugas about
all year around over there he makes the
following Discovery it says like this
it's talking about the the din of
rash again with that night also which is
whole which we just mentioned touched on
and he says like this
um and then he then the also brings
down so we see already over here some
form early work this is from
1386 talking about not sleeping R so
this is after the rishu but this is now
asazi source and this possibly could be
where the got it from why because later
on in this he brings down
not all the things he talks
about is gonna be who's gonna be m um M
for and then he
says so we see this brought down Med in
a work from 1386 and and the point is
like this up till now we only had a SMY
source and we said oh might not have
known it now we could see possibly that
the Rama might have had you know work
that comes out of the B the maril and we
know the Rama the mar he was very fond
of the mar anyway to be M like this this
is to be M the whole like this it comes
out sh is a tremendous day of there's a
there's a lot happening in the day and
we need to do things that help us feel
the day and that's why there's different
all different
contradictory and they're all about to
try to bring this contradictory feeling
on one hand there's a there's a going on
but we're also supposed to
be is gonna be come and find us and let
us live and havea and all the different
things that we ask for but the way to
feel this is through the different for
us not for the the
great was through the different Minh and
one of them one such meing was not to
sleep on again not necessarily at night
not necessarily to get up early in the
morning not just the second day these
are all much more coola so to speak it's
not a is as I'm pointing out it's a way
to feel the the the the and to conclude
what should one do one should be saying
to H there plenty early or learning
learning is always the best as I said
the ran gave that jha trust me they
learned plenty on rashash in those days
I caner today okay excellent um we
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