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Chaim Dovid Berson "Ten Lanu Chaim" Z Report Interview With Yossi Zweig 1-17-18
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In this interview with newcomer Chaim Dovid Berson we talk about the release of his debut album "Ten Lanu Chaim" released this past Chanukah. How did the Chaim Dovid get to his producer Sruly Meyer? What was it like choosing songs for his first album? How does CD walk a fine line between Chazzonus and mainstream JM? What was it like moving from Israel to Manhattan? Find out all that and more, in this intriguing interview with Yossi Zweig. Originally aired on the Jewish Entertainment Network's Z Report Live program which aired on 11/29/17. Listen to archives on http://www.thejenetwork.com/artist/z-report/
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1201 ladies and gentlemen as as
mentioned they said we would have a
guest on the phone
he is a newcomer to recordings but he
has been singing for many many years
please welcome the one and only hi i'm
david burzon hi jessie
hi to all the listeners great to be on
your show
this is the first time i think we've
actually spoken i've never actually
bumped into you at a wedding yet
i know i know better late than never
better
i think it's just just the fact that you
know we're at a different place in our
lives i mean
you know we're both in our in our 30s i
would say at least i think you are i'm
i'm i'm in my upper 30s
and uh most of my crowd isn't getting
married every night you know and a lot
of the relatives have gotten through
that
that hump over there so i'm not going
out at weddings every night i'm sure if
i did i'd bump into you at least
15 times a year probably uh yes yes you
know it's it's still nice to go to
weddings you know you come introduce
yourself
you know it could be a nice activity
issue and you love music so
it's a home run right there you're
definitely right the question is how
many nights a year are you actually
performing in lakewood though
um that's a good question i i've been
out there recently a few times but
but true not most of our weddings are
not uh all the way out there
and although they're great wedding halls
and it's the weddings are beautiful
there
i'm i'm happy not to have to drive an
hour and a half from the city
down to lakewood so i take them when
they come but i'm also happy if the
weddings are closer
right so tell me i'm david i mean i i
hear a little bit of a
an accent in your voice i remember
reading a while ago that you were born
and raised in your slime and you are the
chief cantor
of the prestigious manhattan jewish
center and over the years i've seen
uh you know videos pop up here and there
i believe it was probably
uh aaron applebaum of nafshana orchestra
that first you know introduced me to who
you are
so why don't you tell me how you came to
be in this business especially in the
united states
so uh that's all true what you mentioned
i uh i was born and raised in israel i
grew up there
uh and lived there for most of my life
um until about eight years ago
when i was uh i got the job i was hired
to uh
to be the hazan to be the canter at the
jewish center on the upper west side
and i moved from europe israel to
straight to the upper west side
you know before then i i was a full-time
wedding singer in israel for many years
and i also was a cousins i would travel
i uh was a cousin for a couple years in
montreal
and uh for the high holidays and you
know pay sakes all over the world and
different
weekends and stuff like that um but i
was in the music business since i was
since uh i don't know i started
officially i guess when i was 18 19.
so this is something you've thought
about for a while this is what you
wanted to do with your life
you know it's it's very interesting
hashem sort of
has a plan for everyone sometimes we
know it sometimes we think it's what we
want sometimes i
i can say one thing i love music and i
just wanted to do it
for the love of it and i really enjoyed
it and i'm very very blessed
that the past also opened up and it
worked out that i can also
um work in that field and make a living
from uh
sharing music with people um and it's
it's amazing
it's not that i can say that i always
had a plan that's what i wanted to do
but um if someone would have told me
that's what i'm going to
do i would have been very happy and
thank god so far so good
so tell me you say you're a music fan
since you're young you know growing up
in their tissue
in in that time you know what what were
your influences what did you grow up
listening to
you know was it israeli was an american
so i grew up listening to the mainstream
um uh musica they like calling in israel
um you know if it's uh often from street
mbt
regesh the veikos you know the kirches
uh of course uncle meishi when we we had
a lot of my parents are american
they made aliyah so we did have a lot of
the american stuff at home as well
so i was uh we love music in the family
and we always used to listen
and it's something i always tell people
um today
there is it's amazing there's so much
out there and it's so accessible but at
the same time
in a way we lost the the we don't have
the
the time you know the attention to to
sit down and and just listen to music
so i that was my entertainment i that
was my fun thing to do when i was a kid
i used to just listen to music and when
new stuff came out i would
be the first one to get the cassette
back then
before cds and uh i love it love love
listening to jewish music now tell me
i'm david you said you were living in
in arizona and then you moved to
manhattan what was that culture shock
like
i mean you know eric's stroll always
sunny always warm
uh kids finishing school at you know
like two or three in the afternoon
and you're going to the city they call
it uh what do they call it the
the brick jungle big apple no but they
call it they call manhattan
like like the cement jungle you know
everything's all very little trees
very little greenery all buildings what
was that like for you right
uh it obviously was a very uh uh it was
very different and it uh it was a big
adjustment
and it's still you know when we had like
this freezing cold weather these last
couple of weeks that does remind me it
does
make me miss home uh again and uh it
thinks that it's hard to get used to
um it's different in so many ways so
a lot of things i adjusted to things i'm
still discovering and still figuring out
it it was you know it was for a good
cause and for something that i
i want to do and meeting new people and
joining a new community and
it's amazing and i i i see it as
something that's it's a good challenge
and uh you know herb growing up in
yugoslavia
it's definitely different but at the
same time in some ways it's urban living
i was living in a city
right moving from a city to a city in
some ways
it's uh it's it's different than almost
moving from the suburbs here to the
upper west side which could be in a way
another different kind of adjustment but
uh new york's new york
i definitely hear that hi i'm david
berzon with us via telephone
we're discussing his brand new album ten
la nuchaym so
take take me on on a journey so you move
to new york you become a hazan
and the funny thing is you're now in a
very select group of people
there are not many people who are
khazanim who actually do weddings you
know they usually they
they'll do a hair there but they don't
actually become wedding singers
how did you bridge that gap and how did
you branch out i mean you said you were
a wedding singer
in eretz israel but you know now you're
doing khazana so you have to learn a
different style of singing
yeah that's a very good question jesse
and it's something that i ask myself
all the time you know who am i what do i
do
but the truth is that uh if you want to
call it
a hybrid you know it's something
music has has common things and no
matter what genre of music you're
singing there's there's things that are
the same
and and stylistically it is something i
ask myself because
you know sometimes the hazardous uh goes
into the singing sometimes the singing
goes into the hazardous
and i think at the end of the day it's
something that
that um i i i think that's special that
i can
can can match the two i can combine the
two and i i grew up like i said i didn't
really grow up with
i grew up with with regular music and i
love it right and i love the energy and
i love the feel
and that's what i started with and when
the came in i i felt like i'll take the
strengths and the qualities of both and
and put them together
and and then today if in today's day and
age also like i went to contorial school
and i studied household proper and i
appreciated
but at the end of the day what people
want to hear is not so much what we call
the heavy stuff
they want something uh they want a
proper cousin who knows that mustache
who can lead a proper daughter
right do you want to hear they want to
confuse they want to hear
they want to hear about philip but they
don't necessarily want to hear that
right so
so i try to take the qualities from both
worlds and use them together people love
to sing along i take current
and contemporary nikunam and songs and
and put them into davening
while when you know the the the rules
and the guidelines
of of the structure and music musical
structure of davening
you can do that in the best way because
you're not just the part of the problem
is today is that a lot of people
um bring tunes that are beautiful tunes
but they put them into
parts of davening that it just doesn't
match it doesn't interpret the words
it's sort of forcing something on
something that doesn't really
fit and you know the nusa has musical uh
modes and frameworks that you're
supposed to work in
and these are things that are going with
us for you know as long as we can record
and it's it's something that's good to
know and then that's what i do i kind of
you know sometimes i lead
a little more towards the calvary i find
myself doing like these uh hardcore
hazardous concerts and sometimes it's
you know the pop
and then jumping up and down and i think
they're all great i don't think they
they contradict each other right so tell
me i'm david so you're in the you're in
the states
you're you're a hazan in manhattan
you're doing weddings at night you i
believe you started off with
um aaron applebaum enough shane now you
think you branched out to everybody else
how did you decide to put out an album
and then how did you get
to your producer or did it sorely
approach you about doing an album i mean
how did this all come about
so recording and putting out an album is
something that's been
uh a long a long time you know
a dream of mine to do to to do something
of my own to share my music
to uh do it properly and i'll do a
project an original project and it's
something that that i really
was looking forward to and as you know
there's so many parts to it
both financially and you know working
with the right people finding the right
songs
and actually doing it so it's it's uh
theoretically the idea has been there
for many
for many years um about i think three
years ago
i made the decision that i really want
to take the next step to uh
to do this and i was introduced by a
mutual friend
too surely i was actually working with
you if you know the name steve
blumenfeld
sure blue rhythm label yes exactly so i
was
uh recording i was working with him in
his studio on a different project i
you know i've been in the studios many
times before but not obviously from my
own album
and we were discussing this idea and
this project and he said you know i
i've been working here i think he was
working on uh shapiro's album at the
time
and uh he said you know let me introduce
you to surly meyer
and we sat down we met and uh it was a
great meeting and we both
really it clicked and we felt that uh
let's get started and then
you know it's a long journey we first
thing was finding materials and we
listened to hundreds and hundreds of
songs and
they came from all over and uh you know
making the decisions trying to really
identify the potential of every of every
song that we got
and if it works for me if it works for
today if it works
in the context of the album and you know
there's every album has like
10 12 songs there's sort of a structure
and every song has to fill a certain box
and a certain
has to you know you want to give a
variety the people should you know
it shouldn't all sound the same so you
got to find different styles and
different
types of songs and once you know that
was the whole process and
at some point we moved on to uh finding
the right arrangers for every song and
sending it out and as you can see
there's a long list of arrangers from
all over the world really uh the top
guys in the business
there's some are are you know old school
some are like new talent there's a lot
of new talent out there
that's amazing and and that's you know
that was the process and some things
happened early
some things there's some songs that i
just recorded
and arranged like a few months ago and
there's some that
have been done you know two years ago so
it's uh it was it was a long process but
it was uh
it was amazing it was very uh most of
the time very enjoyable
and uh it was hard work but it was uh
totally worth it i've gone through the
album you know
uh and and you're right you know rakula
ellie client sea berry to tell
em a yearly dickman arrangement uh c
bloomfield by llama
and then this it's a various different
flavors it's definitely a
uh commendable first album you know
definitely it will introduce people to
who you are as far as what your sound is
i'm still
still learning it but i'm sure it must
have been a learning curve for you i
mean you know you grow up listening to
music but you have no idea what the
other side is
creating it and going through these
songs and then trying to figure out okay
do i want
to do a little hazardous in the album
okay i don't want to do too much
hazardous because i want it to be a
mainstream album but
you know which songs do i do i mean
surly has worked with benny and mark
shapiro and many other projects but he's
never worked with a
a cousin like you so what was you know
what was that like uh the give-and-take
between the two of you because you've
never done an album and he's never
worked with
an artist as unique as yourself right so
that's that's been something that we
uh discussed a lot and as you can see
from from the album listening to it that
it's it uh they're hints very very
subtle hints every now and then the
people can pick up on like the more
classical training and maybe a little
that color but the idea was to put out
a mainstream straightforward you know uh
pop album and that's really what it is
it's not it's not hazardous by all means
and it's something that i find um
people when they hear that i'm a cousin
or they hear that i'm a canter
you know they right away think one thing
and and part of it was to show that
that's not
really all i am or or that you know
there are other
other sides and and that can be done
well it doesn't doesn't necessarily mean
because you're a hazard that you're
locked into a certain style in a certain
sound
well i definitely agree with you and i
definitely see that and of course i see
a lot of these songs
can be sung at weddings uh one that's
doing fairly well that came in and
number four last night in our countdown
was the ratna you know which is usually
a a slower song it starts off fairly
slow but then it picks up by the hard
part and people are really digging it
like i said you have the song
um featured uh the one and only nissan
black
london is amir which is a very different
style and yeah if you think
hassan you're definitely not thinking
i mean how did you how did you decide
that wow you know let's
you know what let's already doing pop
and let's do electronic music with john
frater
let's stick nissim into this song
you know let's go backwards um he did an
amazing job and he really brought
uh his style and and his uh
his angle and and you know he wrote the
lyrics that he's saying
and with his own you know with a special
feel it really i think
took the song to a another level and
when when i got this song originally uh
was composed by
mordechai brazil which also was a new
upcoming uh
name and on the list of composers he's
done a whole bunch of
the latest hits it was great and i loved
it and that's why i said i want this
song
at the same time you know the song is
describing like a party it's describing
a wedding
everyone coming together we're just here
to dance and to be
honest it's pretty straightforward and i
just felt
that i wanted to add another element to
it to really you know for going in that
direction or going in that style
let's uh take the next step let's make
it real let's uh
spice it up and uh we were we were
looking for ideas for quite a while and
then we had this idea of bringing in
nissim
and i think it was uh it was
it was a good move i i love the result i
think uh
you know it's a great energy and
hopefully it's something that we'll pick
up and we can i can sing at weddings and
get people going you know it's uh it's
something when i hear it i i
i want to dance it's a fun song i i
definitely agree with you and i and it's
fun listening to as a listener
uh looking through your booklet here i
mean first of all it's been a few weeks
since your albums came out
what what kind of response are you
getting from fans and peoples at simcoes
that you've been performing at since the
album was released
so so far so far great stuff you know
it's it's it's
getting stuff out there is uh is another
uh another project on his own on its own
um you know where that's what we're
talking about
and uh um it it takes a little bit of
time you know getting the cd out there
getting the music so people can hear it
once they hear it then
hopefully it's a lot easier and um
again you know when you're relatively a
new name on the market
so it it also it's not people are not
looking for it
they need it needs to get to them
somehow mm-hmm well we know we've been
playing
we've been playing it a lot here and we
know we've been getting positive yeah
yeah i heard i heard that that's great
and i've been getting responses and and
like you said like you mentioned you
played
iran and i've been getting a lot of
comments about that people really
um like this it's like a surprising song
that's definitely
expected to go in one direction and
suddenly it comes in another direction
and it's a lot of fun
and it works somehow it's also something
we we
there was a lot of work that went into
uh bringing it
uh making it to the bringing it's the
final result that it is uh
now and uh yeah the songs are great i've
sung a few of the fast songs at weddings
they work
um you know the more people learn them
the more people are familiar with them
i think they would work even more um and
uh
it's still fresh fresh off the press so
it's it's new but so far
so far responses and and i think the
things work and i'm excited to
to more opportunities to share them and
to uh
have people dancing to them no
definitely do that ladies and gentlemen
with us via telephone the one and only
heimdall berzon
discussing his debut album telling him
produced by surly meyer available
through music available for
digital download
online itunes amazon music google play
you know david as i'm going through the
playlist i see there's a lot of things
here that have to do with
weddings colonel zameras is is talking
about house nicala
image of course you sing a lot of people
do that after
and then your own composition um
was this a a theme because of constantly
performing at weddings or just ended up
working out like this um it's both it's
both
and and honestly you know in our
in our world the platform for music is
mainly weddings i mean that's where
people hear music that's what we call
um meat music that's where the trends
are
and that's where we we share our music
we do have concerts and shows
but but they're not as frequent as
weddings and everyone goes to weddings
not everyone goes to shows they're not
gonna have the time to go to shows
correct so it's really that's that's our
that's the
that's the field plus there's no free
food at shows
yeah that's true that's true that's you
someone's paying for it regardless but
yes right so
tell me if people want to book you or
get in contact with you is their website
or an email address a phone number
they can they can call me directly or
they can they can email me actually
that'll probably be best you know if
it's uh it's a cd person which is a good
name cds claimed of it bursting
b-e-r-s-o-n
at gmail.com um they can also always get
me through uh we
we worked together with i worked
together with nafshana orchestra
they could always contact nafshanu and
uh they should come out come out and see
us hear us
and uh i look forward to uh well we're
definitely
thinking and dancing with everyone yeah
definitely hope to see great things from
you
uh first songs really send me rock
google definitely a very
very unique song great song to start off
the
album with i also want to mention some
great photography of you in the booklet
and your social media and of course
cover i'm not sure who did your
photography cover was done by cerry
meyer the producer
uh the photography who did the
photography some really nice pictures of
you in here
um her name is nehama you can see her in
in the credits um she's uh from crown
heights
we did a photo shoot a while back
already if you remember the single that
came out
um
right which is a great song and it's uh
it's been on uh as a single now we put
it at the last long but not because it's
uh
it's any less it just we figured people
have heard it already
so um correct but uh yeah it's it's a
great uh
she didn't become a lightner yeah okay
great job
i want to wish you a warm winter that's
what we tell people here
especially for somebody from marriage to
israel we're going to play you out with
the title track ten linux
is there anything you can tell me about
this track before we let you go uh
composed and arranged by uh yelly
dickman which is uh he's a good friend
of mine from israel
and uh really a superstar he's got it
all he's very very talented and a super
guy
and um he he actually
wrote the song and he sent it to me i
loved it and it's been a it's been
it's been a while in the making and he
just he brought you can hear that
arrangement there's so much
there it's really it's really a fun to
listen to and and
musically also it goes between a few
styles
that's kind of on a reggae feel a little
bit
and then it goes into like a rock
shuffle it's it's really it's full of
energy and and the message the message
is
so straightforward and just you know
just give us you know long and blessed
life you know that's all we want we're
not asking for
for for more than that and this is
something to get today being
dish and we just had rich benson you
know we're asking for a good month long
life
all the good right right right right
so it's something that we we all we only
we all can use
and uh you know if uh
if we get the highest from god i'm sure
we'll you know it's on it's up to us to
maximize it but if god gives it to us
then
obviously he has a plan and uh we can do
great things
a hundred percent i want to wish you yes
yeah yeah
just go ahead i want to wish you a a
great
long winter i hope you see a lot of of
hearts luck off from this album
i know we're enjoying it here at the
network and um i hope we're going to see
some videos coming out with you lately
you know so maybe a music video here or
there from the album
um yes yes yes stay tuned they will be
out
uh uh shortly we're working on a couple
of things and
uh hopefully we can share them really
soon and
uh yeah it's great things and and thank
you elsies thank you so much for
everything you do
um and for jewish music and for
promoting
and for bringing you know getting it
getting it out there getting quality
stuff
and and enjoyable music to to the jewish
people and uh
it's great keep up the good work thank
you so much my pleasure heimdall thank
you very much ladies and gentlemen hi
i'm david berzon
here off his album it's the title track
telling hayem composed
arranged and conducted by the one and
only early dickman and you my friends
are tuned in to this airport live on the
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