CHAZAQ's Torah Talks #161 Rabbi Issamar Ginzberg - Torah Psychology

downstairs from my house there's a store called Kanan that's a chain of store that says like office supplies and stuff like that in the front glass counter there's a sign in there that says this thing from that if you if you're happy you say thank you hasm you're so good to me ha you think that's you think that's the best I can do let me show you gives the person that much better much more so when I should have said the story the other way around start with a negative meaning to say someone says hm I can't take anymore hem could say you think this is the worst that could be my when it comes to good you think this is the best I can do I can do way better can always make it better there's no limit to how much better things can get always always things can get better and better and [Music] better and welcome to Torah talks kazak's Tuesday night program with special guests we have with us all the from from Israel welcome thank you for having me what an honor what a what a merit so good to see you the energy so we're going to be speaking about psychology this is what the energy is like now imagine what it's like when I'm not jet like oh wow oh W okay we're going to have to feel that uh so we're going to be speaking about psychology but before we get to the topic a little bit background about yourself and the great work you're involved with Rabbi and yish is an expression let me teach your some the EMS is the best El which means that the best lie you can tell is to tell the truth why because when somebody says an untruth they have to always remember what they said they shouldn't say something else that ends up contradicting what they said the first time but when someone says the truth they never have to worry they're going contradict themselves because there's only one truth and so I don't really know meaning I didn't really plan to get to the place that I got to do what I do it kind of sort of happened in hindsight obviously 2020 you look back say sure it just happened but really my background went from I always knew as a as a kid I always had this um my both my grandparents all the way up come from major cidic dynasties we discussed earlier one of them is the famous and wellknown himself was a great grandson of and so I always knew that I wanted to let's say when they have sh of my own it was something I had a I had a drive to have but how I ended up in the position that I am in which I am a speaker a consultant for Jewish audiences for non-jewish audiences I remember once giving a speech in midoan Virginia uh having a big like one of these big gulp things from 7-Eleven in my hand to make sure I don't have any problems with people you know giving me a hand certain people and um so I I don't really know how I got here meaning to say it wasn't planned that way but what I do is I speak and I consult and I write for major companies for entrepreneurs for nonprofits and bar I've been very blessed to be successful at what I do and have a lot of people who listen to me I get weekly weekly podcast in Yiddish mostly I write forent I've written for Entrepreneur magazine for many other famous magazine I've been interviewed in hundreds of prestigious Publications in the world including for example the New York Times and uh whole alphabet soup I used to list them but it's been years already so I don't do that anymore so welcome to Torah talks me your is amazing work is amazing we want to do more never satisfied so this is a Torah talk and question I heard before I heard before one of your staff members saying a typo he was saying about how many kids he's been to help move into and by mistake he added a zero and he like we'll get there we'll get you know 130,000 we'll get there we'll get should to be able to save more entire world that's right so so far time of this recording over 1700 Souls that have been transferred but many more with God's help so so psychology what is the connection to Torah is there anything that we could uh bring the two together okay it's a big question yeah um we'll only be able to scratch the surface of it I could always come back for a second third and fourth uh talk even though it's true obviously that when that there is wisdom and there is a lot to be learned in many different fields at the end of the day everything is in the Torah there is just like in legal in law you have case law whenever something is given in the there's a certain amount of case law that you can say okay it comes from the Torah and this is what we have in the Torah and this is how we can extrapolate from that into I'm talking about major medical questions I'm talking about all kinds of things psychology everything else business zoning it's all in the tah I'll start with an example I don't want to get too deep on technical but if anyone wants to take the extra time to actually look this up in the in theim in the verses in the Torah it's inas you have AR ainu andu his wife she passes away right and now he has a problem what's his problem to bury her he has to bury her but he's not planning to stay here so what happens if buries his wife and then goes away and then a week later the town decides to build a moall on top of where she's buried he doesn't want to bury her in that case so it's always been across the generations throughout the generations unfortunately l in 1930s to 1940s in Germany and since then it hasn't been so respected but over the course of many many many cultures and all the generations a cemetery was always considered something that you don't Cher you don't touch a cemetery you let the people rest in peace cover it's actually interesting that in uh Belgium I'm not sure what the exact rules are I think 50 years after 50 years they basically like Po field style oh wow they just dig it up which is why all the belg the Jewish community of Belgium's cemeter is actually just over the Border in put in Holland because it shouldn't be subject to this problem wow but if you look at the and you look at and he's looking to bury his wife in the mar which is actually where and are [Music] buried so he comes and he's he can get it as a present from ephr he wants to pay for it he wants to pay full price if you look it back and forth a little bit you see something very interesting is having this conversation not just with ephr he's having the conversation in front of the entire Community entire Ben and if you actually look at the translation of the words you'll see and he bows to Ben and he speaks to EF then he speaks to then he speaks to EF and it when you just read it you don't really notice the Nuance but once someone shows it to you like if you look at it now after you listen to this conversation you realize and this is a Brisk if I'm not mistaken that he wants to make sure that he doesn't bury her in a field and then the next week they go build a parking lot or a building or a mall a shopping center on that field so so he's actually negotiating with the B with the towns people to have this land zoned as a cemetery and he's saying clearly I want to bury my wife here in order to get their approval and only when once he gets their approval then he pays the money to Ephron because otherwise he has no point in using the because he's not going to bury her and then leave and there'll be nothing left so all those real estate people out there we got zoning zoning in the in the very beginning um another thing who is the first disabled person in the world that we know of so everyone knows maybe that's that's too wide of a say everyone knows but it's well known that in the tah you have for example you have um benun who um he he was famously he was uh chopped isa's head right he chopped so he wasn't letting the Levi happen right he was he was death he was dumb meaning to say he couldn't hear I'm not sure I get but um but before you get to the it's actually somebody who was born whose name was no and when was born it says he will save us from the uh forgive me for freely translating or mistranslating from the hard work from the from the uh from the he he will save us essentially from the hardship of that we have with our hands he in invented essentially the plow till then they just used their hands to dig how did invent the plow what was he he you know he went to the patent office and went to the plow the medish says that when no was born his fingers looked like these like our fingers until then the people that were born the M says had webs fingers I believe it's a medish wept fingers meaning more like let's call it like a duck's feet would look like a mitten as opposed to like a glove which has separate holes for each finger it's more like a mitten and therefore when was born everyone was like a disabled child has such disformed misformed finger fingers then today if someone is born with fingers like people had before we look at them and say help them hopefully they can go for surgery and have their fingers detached from each other so they can have a a better life but when he was born and they saw his fingers they were like aha if we could take something like that take a piece of wood and make a bunch of big fingers we can plow if we can plow we can plant instead of one one little bit at a time using our hands we could plow that much more and actually business started if you want to get back to another another example business started really it makes ner the first entrepreneur because business started when you could not just feed your family you had extra so if I had just enough wheat to feed my family I can't trade or sell to anybody else but if I can have an acre or two acres three acres a week more than I need I can then trade some of that with my neighbor and you know what you give me wheat I'll give you barley you give me wheat I'll give you apples and oranges and essentially able to start trading because you have the ability to produce more and then use that in Commerce amazing amazing putting it all together very very very very interesting do you have any other examples within the Torah of psychology well you have begging hasem to save the city of s and I mean we're talking about Ru I'm just talking about it on this basic level I'm not in any way projecting onto rinu but it's it's it's salesmanship it's copyrighting and if there's 50 people would you save the city and if there's 45 people there's 40 people there negotiation negotiation negotiation and and the numbers from 50 to 45 to 40 to 30 20 to 10 yeah and um that's one example the example when yes is talk to his brothers when the brothers come down to M and and they're each coming through a different entrance of MIT to try to case the joint without being noticed and another shot reason for them going to different entrances was because there was a m is saying that they were looking for ysep because they know they sold him to Egypt that's true yeah you listen with with at least in y's um when he came to the brothers to uh to say you're spies so he's coming and he's saying you came from different Gates and that suddenly he's using as back of proof that that they are spies right even though they were essentially did it for an innocent reason but he's coming and using that against them right there is full of it you [Music] have you have the why do the people from the why were they with because they were nearby would the neck shave it over in the in the way the were lined up and therefore they got caught up in even though they didn't really have anything to gain because they're not going to be what's it to them they had their own pain they had the pain that the they were the old Ru is the older shavit and they they had that pain but they didn't actually have anything to gain from K taking over from they just had their own pain and K was psychologically tapping into their um their hurt and using it for his own for his own benefit the fact that they were ruen was transfered to ysph so they felt like they were the before the the the first born yes but that reminds me of another example which is when when Ru is Born the says that his mother Le called his name Ru she said because s my pain Rashi on that POS says I'm sorry I can't say it in the proper pration that um my brother-in-law as tried to kill yob for taking away the for taking away the first the right of the first born and my son Ru not only did he give did ysf take away his being the first born but he actually saved him from tried to save him from the brothers from from from being from being killed essentially he put him in the pit to save him from being killed and he would have taken him out of the pit right except when he came back he wasn't there anymore cuz he got sold and so the question is wait Le says the PK says the Torah is saying that the reason why his name is Ru is my pain and rash is coming with a totally different saying rash is saying it's because look at the difference between my brother-in-law as to yob my husband and look at the difference between my son ruen and his brother YF how differently they act with each other so the T has a specific reason why his name is ruen which is cuz hasm saw my pain and rash says a totally different which it's not even it's not even similar it's because of andu nothing to do with as now was that too complicated to explain before I answer the question I'll leave you hanging for a minute in you have something very similar the PUK saids that the the back also the idea of spies morum here they went to spy Egypt here they went to spy here they went to spy at um at Canan the land of Israel and they they come to spite the land of Israel and they come and they everybody it really bothers me by the way maybe some someone who's listening to this is watching this can help me with this the actual symbol of the Israeli Ministry of Tourism is two of the morum holding a bunch of grapes now the ministry of Tourism is supposed to be promoting tourism bringing the grapes didn't exactly work out very well for call I'm not sure it's the right logo it's kind of a mismatch talking about marketing it's not such a great marketing uh icon to have the morum who didn't say the best things about because K and yes did not bring back fruit but in any case so they come to and they say they come back and they say oh we were like grasshoppers right many return that the kar has a ver on that that what do you mean what you why you saying why you look why you why don't you have any self-confidence why you saying that you were like a a grasshopper in your eyes if you say they thought of you as a grasshopper maybe maybe not that's you but why would you the way they perceive themselves is the way others perceive them as well exactly even less whatever person perceives themselves the other person usually perceives them even lower so you're it's exactly what you're saying I'm just saying it it goes even more so okay so and Rashi says means grasshoppers Nal means ants a little creepy CW ants so why would Rashi say shot that's totally different than the p a grasshopper is not an ant an ant is not a grasshopper and if it was if it was the same thing then why would rash have to come explain it at all Rashi could just let it go and not mention anything so I heard a beautiful ver I think I saw from hutner I'm not sure that how does a grasshopper eat he lands on your choke CH cookie takes a bite makes himself a little meal and flies away how does an ant eat it comes takes a crumb even if the crumb weighs five or 10 times its weight puts it on its back goes back to its uh ant Motel not the poisonous one hopefully and uh and there it has its meal so when the says that when the Giants and saw the Canan saw that there were these little cruy creepy things which were the mum so they thought oh it's must be grasshoppers but then they saw them carrying home fruit so they so rash says because can't be grasshoppers because the Grasshoppers wouldn't be carrying it home when they saw these little tiny things carrying home grapes carrying home the other fruits of that they took then that's why Rashi says it because it's so now back to Leia Leia was Leu was a big she was a she was a prophet a prophetess I know how to spell a lot of words in English but had to pronounce them sometimes I get it wrong okay so if if so the real reason that Ru was named Ru was because of rash look what the difference is between my son and my my son essentially my brother-in-law as the problem is is that if Le would say oh the reason I named him ruen is because my son gave up something to Ra's son and ra has no children ra ra is a for many years ra has no children R would essentially know that one day she's going to have children and hasm didn't give Le permission to tell her to because is supposed to D supposed to do what she has to do in order to be to be blessed bym to have the of Y so Leia could not say the real reason why she's naming her son ruen so even the rash's is ultimately correct that can't be the I think this from I think so therefore she has to give a different reason to cover up the real reason and that's why if you look at the words the it says I gave that name is not it doesn't say I gave him the name Ru because saw my pain I I gave it says I gave him the name ruin because she said so my P so she's saying essentially the t is telling us clearly that the reason why she's saying it is that's she said the reason was but it wasn't the real reason that's why rash is coming explaining the real new one the real reason behind it this the ter is full of it the ter is endless and deep amazing beautiful examples 100% true now the question for Ginsburg is as follows how does on watching or listening to this take this you know you brought all these exam from the holy Torah to life itself how do you take psychology or or tips of of making it practical First of all [Music] is widen your mouth open your mouth wide and I will fill it up with everything good the actual of is wide in your mouth that when a person smiles and a person takes things with a good attitude with happiness it's always going to be good at the end if it's not if it's not good it's not the end yet that helps a person now what does that to do with your question it's actually proven in Psychology it's proven that when a person smiles when a person is in a good mood they have they do better just like when a person um this is an interesting sales tip I don't know if I should do camera kind of hurt I guess some people get some extra benefit out of it before you make a sales call there's a there's an expression smile while you dial oh wow I never heard of this smile because that way when the person answers the phone they hear the in your voice and it makes them more likely to actually be more listen to what you say about sitting instead of standing if you're if you're calling someone and you're laying and your lazy boy or you're laying in bed or on the couch it's not the same as when you're standing and you're excited standing is better standing is better maybe next time we should have a standing but essentially one of the tips that they give salese is when you're making a phone call this is is this a is aak pen that's right it's a brand new pen so don't worry while they make the phone call while they dial they keep the pen in their mouth because when you keep a pen in your mouth you're forcing yourself to smile wow which releases the endorphins which means that when you take the pen out of your mouth you're going to be that much more excited and have that much more conversation which will which will come through it's not just [Music] but it's not just as a Mitzvah it actually helps in Practical terms everyone you talk to everyone you interact with when you do it in when you say things in a good way in a friendly way when you're thankful for what comes your way just another example from the Torah is the Jews are in supposed to be for give would take 400 years comes wants to get him out and Par says no now you're going to have to work even harder you're going to have to go collect your own straw to make your own cement and they say o we thought is coming to help us and now we're even in worse in a worse pickle have a question if you have to have 10 I some Terrible Things everyone should have only only good things good things happen to them but if a person had a choice that they have to go through something ter by the way it says that when a person has a bad dream and they wake up in the morning they wake up midle night and there's that horrible dream it says in Sp that that dream is a wonderful thing for them why because since while they were dreaming it really happened until they woke up they actually thought that they you know get hit by a car whatever the whatever the dream was therefore if it was B to get hit by a car if they were supposed to have something terrible happen to them it could be with a dream and and also there's a word in yish I don't know if you use this in in your community sure of course okay so a joke that the word NE even though the the letters are actually the letters of the why because when a person hears that some other person went through pain went through hardship and they say what they're really doing is they're feeling for the other person that's what NE means like oh I feel so bad for the person I'm empathizing have sympathy have empathy for the person that had that thing and when a person is supposed to have something happen to them and they they can be it by by taking care of basically when a person is supposed to have something bad happen to them they can take care of it they can essentially P it they can they can wipe it away by taking care of hm's children by taking someone else with that problem same thing with a dream since in the dream it seemed real they can get away with something that could have meant to happen to them when they weren't dreaming so back to the back to what I was saying about about if a person is meant to have a bunch of bad things happen to let's say they're supposed to have 10 uh I'm making this up I'm just saying but let's say 10 surgeries would they rather have a surgery and then go through the recuperation process and heal and go back to work and then six months later back even though it would be painful and it would be hard most people would prefer put me not me all all all's enemies and all those countries where they are on them not on us but wouldn't a person rather say listen put me that put me under the knife do what you got to do famous famous uh my great-grandmother was the K Ritson she had knee surgery when she was uh she had knee replacement I think she was 80 at the time oh wow and then she asked how long does it last and they said 5 years she's like okay then when she was 90 10 years later her knees hurt again she KN she said how long does it last for Last 5 Years I'm not doing it they said 10 years she like okay do it again with this time she said do both at once to go through a knee surgery and then get better and then do the other knee no no no no no do both knees let's get it over with a few months anyway you know and then let let's have it done so what happened was M came to M and it got worse for them but they shaved off 190 if it's two 190 years because of the because they had harder work they were able to shave up the amount of timeing that was even a bigger than it seems it wasn't just they shortened the uh you you know go to this prison for X number of years or Worse prison for less number of years it's actually much more than that since theen left M the very last minute before they would have fallen into NE the lowest level of T from which There Is No Escape because they would have fallen into the N the 50th uh step down the ladder NE into into not not a good place Hashem snatched them out the last second had they not had that thing when M came and made it harder they would have not been able to leave after 210 years because the PK said they supposed to be there for 400 years and we wouldn't be here today having this wonderful conversation having being able to do the amazing work they're doing 100 whatever does for us is good everything's for the best and that is the ultimate piece of psychology that a person should be equipped with to go through life sailing smooth positive thinking 100% always being happy I heard a line from your great great grandfather smile for no reason will give you a reason for this smile yes down from my house there's a store called Kanan that's a chain of store that says like office supplies and stuff like that and in the front glass counter there's a basically the ra just said there's there's a sign in there that says and this is essentially why that's why it says that the on that day of because you're crying over nothing I'm sorry I'll give you reason to cry foration to cry about so it says in the window this thing from that if you if you have happy you say thank you hasm you're so good to me Hashem says I mean I'm not I'm saying it in in the human form ha you think that's you think that's the best I can do let me show you and gives a person that much better much more so when it's POS I should have said the story the other way around start with a negative meaning to say someone says hm I can't take anymore hm could say you think this is the worst that could be my mouth when it comes to good you think this is the best I can do I can do way better can always make it better my grandmother say means I'm weak you give to and um to make things better there's no limit to how much better things can get always always things can get better and better and betteri 100% amazing RAB Tamar Ginsburg loved every single word over here we have a me a final message for kak Tor talks I'll take my final message to say a story from the Ben of course not because I'm trying to say something FY cuz I'm here because I'm very I feel very connected to I think you said it's your favorite sa yes I think so and I have's picture my mother bought me a picture in my house I have a big painting of wow um I mean I can't say I know the for because actually have a manuscript from him and wow but story great business story great story to say tonight maybe I'll have to speak at if I do I'll say the story but that'll be after this goes live so won't be able to hear this once upon a time there was a gentleman and this gentleman had a lot of money and he was getting older and he really wanted to put away money for his retirement as he would sleep every night he realized he was having back pain not because he was getting older because under his mattress he had stacks of bills and as he was getting older and making money and stacking it and stacking it his match was getting less and less comfortable MH so he decided he's going to take all this money inflation is a problem and he was going to invest it in something so he did lots of research he decided to invest the money and buy a very very famous painting from one of the one of the greats I don't know if it was a Picasso or it was a Monet or or or a Michelangelo I don't know I'm not so familiar with all the names of different artists but he going to buy a painting um and Sh he goes he does his research and he goes and he buys some very very expensive painting Museum quality maybe it wasn't the Mona Lisa but and he takes the painting and he hangs it when you come into his house he had this very nice house with a nice spiral staircase the Ben doesn't mention the spiral staircase you out of that and right when you walk in the big foyer he hangs this beautiful expensive painting now his bed is flat and he can sleep schach and he has this big painting right when you come in the front door you can see it from as you open the front door he has this big painting and every time he passes this painting he thinks to himself when I finally retire and I get old I'm going to be able to retire I'm going to sell the painting I have my it's going up in value year after year he keeps looking at the SBE auction booklets to see how his painting is going up in value constantly no offense to any other auction hous um and time passes another year another year SE one day a guy comes to his house to visit him and says oh wow that is such a great replica of that famous painting oh he say replica this is the painting the guy says Nah see on the upper left side there's a black dot there like a black splotch it's a replica it's a good replica but it's not the real thing now just by the way in China people don't know this many people don't know this that there's different cities that do different things so it's not like you go in in Manhattan the Garment district is garment and then you have the next District jewelry district right it's not like that there's actual cities the cities that make sinks and the cities that make paintings so they have cities there's people I've ordered paintings from China I send them a picture and I give it as gifts and I have it hanging in my house very very amazing paintings copied from pictures of you know so but anyway guy says this must be made in that town in China no I'm kidding doesn't say that but it's a very good replica but it's not the real thing and that's the proof the little black Splash in the corner and this suddenly goes into a major depression he spent his entire he thought he could sleep well CU his b mattress was flat now he finds that he can't sleep at all because his entire life savings is lost and his kids see that ABA is getting very very depressed and they're thinking what can we do to cheer up ABA so one of them remembers that ABA really likes mustard that's thing maybe because it says that when the came to he served them tongue with with mustard I don't know why maybe spiritual reason to it but in any case they knew that their father ABA likes mustard so they went and they found every single brand of kosher mustard I'm not sure blue p is a kosher mustard or not but they went for all the mustard the famous mustard they brought him a little bit of every mustard to try they figured that'll cheer him up he gave a little smile it didn't cheer him up so they did was they had a little plane a little sea plane fly over his house with a with one of these banners hanging behind it it says we love you ABA and they made sure he was outside on the back porch in the backyard when it flew over and he sort of gave a little smile but it didn't really work I said okay what can we do you know what we have a way to make him happy so they got the Barnum and Bailey Circus to come to his backyard and they had monkeys on motorcycles going upside down and they had elephants standing on two feet and they had rings of fire with lions jumping through them forgive me if I got the what actually happens in Bar B wrong and the father gives a little smile he says them thank you but doesn't work maybe they tried medication Ben doesn't say that but in any case he stayed depressed he stayed glum he stayed unhappy maybe he should have been happy anyway but that's what happened to him one day there's a knock on the door he opens the door and this say I'm men the flesh there's an alcoholic at the door M somebody who's far far from Alcoholics Anonymous his stench his breath and the stench of the individual himself was very very very unpleasant to the extent when he opened the door and his nose got the scent the whiff of this person he just backed away from the door CU he couldn't take the smell and as he backs away from the door this alcoholic looks into the house and gasps and says that's the famous pain thing guy pull $1 out of his pocket says listen he has 10 bucks go go it's not the famous painting he's maybe the guy's going to rob him not the famous painting it's a replica if you look in the left side in the corner you see the black spot it's not the real painting the guy says wait wait wait the guy's like putting his foot in the door the guy shouldn't be able to close door wait I got to tell you something wait what is it I used to be the curator of the major Art Museum and then he fell into hard times he fell in that's the original origin you see that black splot in the corner that's what the artist put on the original painting so that whoever copies his painting is going to not put the black splotch because they're going to assume the black splotch is not supposed to be there and that's actually the Simmon that this is the original painting and it's not a replica wow and the guy he's happy he's Jolly snaps out as if the last 10 years of depression never happened no medication or nothing and his kids come and say Aba we don't understand we got you every kind of mustard we brought the circus to your house we had a plane flying over saying ABA we love you nothing helped we tried everything some drunk managed to make you happy so the father tells his kids you don't understand you tried to make me happy here that guy might be a drunk but he made me happy here he took away the actual thing that was bothering me and that's why I'm happy now the Ben uses this story to explain that when a person goes to a wedding everyone's dancing everyone's singing there's one person at the wedding that that's not as happy as everybody else which sounds a little weird but let's think about it for a second when an Orthodox Jewish couple marries the husband gives the wife a I didn't know you have vases by by you guys okay um and it says that the husband promises is essentially it's a it's essentially a promise a guarantee that if the marriage ends doesn't work out doesn't work out or if the husband dies whatever then the wife is entitled to a certain amount of money right antire cha very interesting CH from we won't go there now but how much of it is real and how much of it is is written for uh when they write these huge amounts it's is written to to you know so so it sounds very respecting but not that actually that amount of money has to be given but in any case so everyone's happy everyone's coming to the big party but if the if knows what it says he knows he just obligated himself to a significant amount of money and ultimately he's worried because everyone's hoping things are going to work out but he's the one who's now you know in this life experiment of Life hoping things are going to work out and he's not really sure so he has that certain sense of daving and hoping and is an amazing great day and a person's all a person's sins are forgiven and they were big sadik when they were older wanted to get married a second time or another time just to just to be able to have another y because of was special to that day but if if only for that alone meaning to say but the essentially has a certain worry in his heart so the says that when you come to a wedding and you tell [Music] the she's you did a good match she's a good woman you're going to be happy together you're taking away from him the the worry that he has so that's why the way to be is not by singing and dancing because you're actually not just doing what giving him mustard you're actually talking to the pro the the possible worry that he has on his heart that's why the brings this story down brings it down as far [Music] as I use the story for business I use this story for psychology I use this story to explain that many of the things people try to do to get customers and to to and with their kids is they try to make them happy here you got to try to make them happy here can make them happy here you're much better off you're good to go what a powerful story RAB Tamar Ginsburg quing of better known as loved it amazing phenomenal great two thumbs up thank you very all that you do for cl for the Jewish people psychology Torah amazing amazing we want to thank our friends at torney time and all the podcast players and the many many different uh ways of view this Torah talks thank you very much to daily giving a dollar day goes are very far we're very appreciative to them we want to remind everyone every single Tuesday night 8:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time kazak Tor talks k.org cq. glive we encourage everyone to join family friends neighbors for the link post it around what an amazing Torah talk anden I want to thank re man for introducing us yes and I just want to say that I'm very very very it's very the work that does is absolutely amazing we be able to be amen amen thank you very amazing [Music]