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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 23 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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- Good Voch - Introduction - 22B - 23A - 23B - Have A Wonderful Week! -- MDY presents: "Nothing but the Daf", R’ Eli Stefansky’s MDY (Mercaz Daf Yomi) Shiur in a concise format - all the clarity of the full daf Shiur, with Reb Eli's unique charts and visual aids, without any extras (emails, stories etc.) Perfect for Chazarah or anyone who wants a quick, focused Daf.
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Welcome. Welcome. So, we're holding
seven lines from the bottom by Zer. And
these questions are very very similar to
each other. These dapim are very very
similar in terms of the structure, the
questions, the
a lot of freebies. The entire are
freebies basically.
So we know are the mature the adults
are the little guys.
The Mishna tells us that once it starts
turning yellow you can't bring either
theim or the and he this guy decided to
bring
the birds when they start becoming
yellow. He said, "I'm going to bring
either adults or
the chicks, the babies." And he brings
like the in between. And this puts us in
a suga of the in between. So the
question is this bird, what do we is? Is
is it a third stage, a stage of turning
yellow or we just don't know what it is?
if we don't know what it is.
And this guy brought two of these. He
brought a dove that's yellow and a
pigeon that's yellow. So
because if this bird is considered a
baby, so it's a baby, it's considered an
adult, it's an adult, so it's either on
the side or on the side. But either way,
it was yay. But if it's a third category
of a yellow a yellow pigeon, then he's
not yita.
Do we view a a yellowish bird as a
suffic?
He brought a yellow dove and a yellow
pigeon. Now, if you're going to tell me
a yellow bird is a baby, okay? So, he
brought a And if you're going to tell me
yellow bird is an adult, so he brought a
tire. Either way was
but
no it's a third category
he said he's going to bring means I am
neither I'm going to bring birds
I'm going to bring either
or he didn't bring either he brought he
brought in between stage
this right over here it says
The word min is extra
what do I do with it?
The comes to tell me that when it starts
becoming yellow whether it's a dove or a
pigeon is possible.
It makes sense that you need a pos to
tell me that category three is no good.
But if you're telling me it's not a
category, it's just you don't know what
it is. It's
going to tell you something that you
don't know. You should know you
shouldn't bring. Why not?
Who knows that it's either an adult or
it's a it's a chick. So, it's good
either way. So, why would the Pik say
that the suffic is no good?
Says
you're right.
There's no pos to tell me min this pos
right over here minimum is not coming to
tell you that a yellow bird is possible
for a carbon. No, it's coming to tell
you that if somebody had relations with
this bird or somebody took this bird and
used it as a vizar he can't bring it as
a ka.
Now why would I have a meaning he could
bring such a bird? It's a disgusting
kind of bird. Why would I have a he
could bring it as a ka? So says
by it says
the
is of
it's either
or
we see by the marble
of all animals.
And that's
the same poss
together with
anything that
a is a problem. So where is a m a
problem? by a be by by a large animal a
broken leg you can't bring it as a
carbon so would say that the also has to
do with the so when and that kind of
animal you can't bring as a carbon
boy but the bird where there's no
problem of so maybe there's no problem
of
There's no such thing as a cave by these
birds,
right?
Went through this whole thing that this
year I discovered that there's no such
thing by pigeons. No such thing is it's
a physical thing. It's not there is no
zakus. There's no you can't look at it
with a microscope, not a microscope. We
can't see anything. There's nothing
there. So, but there's also no Thomas.
Thomas means that there's no such thing
as being whole or not whole.
that that since there's no such thing as
as a moon by a bird and there's no such
thing as so maybe I could take a bird
that somebody worshiped a desire to it
and bring it as a carbon
that's what the
that's what it comes to tell us that you
cannot but there's a very important rash
here that I want want you to see. Rashi
says over here
cataracts are not a problem.
Why? Listen to this.
You can't show up to the with a bird
without a leg. Why?
So now we're doing the same again
basically. Oh, let me show you. I don't
even have to show you. If I show you
this picture, you know what it is. I
don't have to show the whole video.
We just showed it. So we're not going to
show it.
A guy says, "I'm gonna I I take upon
myself to bring in from what? What type?
Kev is up to 12 months old. Is from 13
months on. What about between 12 and 13?
Between 12 and 13 is called
>> palgus.
We're going to start calling kids.
You're not by bringing a palgus because
it's a it's a third category. It's not a
it's not a it's called this
if you bring a palg
now to remind we learned a lot about
this in this is just one the guy on the
right is a he brings one is the guy all
the way to the left is a brings two is
destroy him. So in terms of the the uh
the flour very different double double
if you're a Nile in terms of the wine
instead of a quarter of a raas you bring
a third you bring
okay
so you brought a palas what do you bring
so what you bring is you bring like the
aisle all the way to the left you bring
the same amount of wine the same amount
of of flour great
Why? Because he said either a Nile or
Kev. He brought a palgus.
I'll tell you why.
So over here is saying in the talks
about a palgus. So that means it's the
is not going to be talking about a is
talking about a it's a new category
called the palgus
according to
says what do you do you bring all the
the the the two let's say a flower you
bring that to the base of you say if my
palgus is an aisle
So the two is him a flower for for it.
But if my palus is really avas and I was
supposed to bring only one is so one is
goes to him and one isarin is just an
adava
he makes it
and he doesn't even mention the fact
that that he's a bria that he's a palgus
that he might be his own category
perhaps. He also talks about the fact
that he might be a third category called
apologus and there's zero
flower for apolog
we don't have an answer
here's a video for tonight professor
he's a he's a psychologist
On the one hand, everyone constantly
treats me like a child.
But on the other hand, I'm already 17.
That is not a kid anymore.
>> Yes, I know that struggle very well.
It's exactly what I went through when I
turned 12 months old.
On the one hand, I wasn't a kid anymore,
but I wasn't a ram either.
>> A ram.
>> It's called the Palgus complex.
>> It's Palgus complex. Very good. Okay,
one minute. I want to show you this
other polus thing that we did a long
time ago.
>> I am not a Kev.
I am not a oill.
>> I'm reminding you he is not 13 years
old. He is 13 months old. He finished
his first year and started his second
year. Got it?
Benaz,
>> but
just like
we almost forgot about that one. Had to
remind Yoshi. Had no idea what I was
talking about.
All right. Same thing all over again.
Same kind of question.
So we know there's something called
matzah and something called but there's
something in between. I don't remember
what mat we learned it probably in
yeah
these are the breads that if somebody
something good happens to someone he got
out of a a disease he he went through
the Sahara desert
what else he
or he went on a private plane across the
Sahara desert. Anyway, so if somebody
went through some Tsarus, he was in jail
and he came out of jail. So he brings a
a Today we call it
and he bring 10 bread, 40 breads total,
10 of them are 30 of them are matzah.
This guy says, "I want to bring 10 10
breads for a tida.
Either
or mat, I'm not decided yet. I'm
undecided." And the guy, what does he
do? He does the palgus thing. He does
the in between thing. What's the in
between? It's called it's not it's not.
So you have the same kind of question
again. It's the same rib asking the
question.
Now let's talk about
take a look at this. You have to look
carefully because
you see how it's all shiny.
It's it's um
and now it just turned non-shiny. That's
pon that's reor that makes it
that's but you get malus if you eat it
according to according to according to
Yehuda it's when it starts cracking and
it looks like the the antennas of a
grasshopper
okay so here it start crack that's a a
later stage and according to here here
you can see the grass appar on the left
and according to you don't get any
penalty you don't get according to you
get malus and you can see according to
okay
so
the gar says the gar does something here
just to make it interesting because
basically the gar is going to say it
goes according to because says there's
no punishment then it's possible that he
means that it's a a category on its
There's no punishment. What do you mean
there's no punishment? Because either
it's a suffic
or it's a category on its own. But
according to mayor, it's obvious that's
what it's it's it's no good. Why would
say you get mal because it's like okay
says like this very simple man. Let's do
it. According to mayor
it changed colors but you get malus.
So
according to a mayor it's only changed
colors. What would be the same in's
case?
>> It's garnished. Garnished.
If the stage later when it already looks
like a grasshopper he says you don't
get. So in's case it's nothing. So
you see
this is mus. And if I brought 10 breads
made out of this stuff
cuz I gave 10 breads of mat that's also
good.
Sorry.
Now let's say it happened. It's already
cracking according to what what is going
to say in the cracking malus. If before
the cracking you get malcus. Certainly
if you're correct is and therefore what
either of you may
I brought 10 breads of
I said either I didn't say what
okay so let's say that's talking about
that it's just now just changed colors
but according to again it's either
just went through all these steps just
to get to the bottom step here we are
elder it's talking about that it looks
like a grasshopper but you don't get
it's a suffic but I brought either mat
or I brought I brought
I brought or mat which one I don't know
will decide but I my nether was I said I
was going to bring 10 breads either or
so it's either or
or no
or maybe there's a third category called
Matzah and Seir and because I brought I
wasn't in my nether. I said I was going
to bring 10 oft or 10 of matzah. I
didn't say I was going to bring 10 of
I'm not yita.
Okay. So that's the whole suffic here
and we remain in the sufficar just asks
what happened there. What was the story?
Why in the world would somebody say I'm
going to bring 10 breads of taida?
Everybody knows you have to bring 40
breads of
somebody just says, "I'm going to bring
the bread of
you have to bring both the taid and the
bread."
Now this person now owes 40 breads. Now
he doesn't know if the sea or is and
there therefore he brought and that he
owes the matzah part
or maybe he brought some of the matzah
and he has to bring another 20 m and
10ts.
He has no idea. So what did he gain?
Either way he's going to have to bring
40 breads.
What happened was he he's not going to
bring 40 breads. He only said I'm going
to bring 10. I'm going to help my friend
out. I know my friend can't really
afford 40 breads. I'll you know what on
me I got 10. I got you for 10 says the
delay.
He didn't help his friend at all. The
friend has no idea what the se is and
therefore he has to bring the rest mat
or is the seat and he has to bring what
should he do? What kind of what kind of
friend is that? says
he's not a friend that's helping out
over here. It's not going to help at
all.
But the question is
the the the guy that made the nether is
he or not? Neither enough.
The question is
this guy that that promised he's going
to bring 10 breads of either matzah was
he with the seer. He didn't help his
friend at all. His friend is gonna have
to bring 40 breads. You're right. What
about the guy that made the nether? Does
he was he or not? That's the shil. What
do we do? Should we do
>> Yeah,
we'll just stop over here because it's
shabas and Israelis are waiting to come
in.
Rais
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