CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 73 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. What a treat. Holding two lines from the bottom. We're discussing in the Mishna says that if an animal pokes its hand out, it hand comes out. and you sh the mother first and then you cut [snorts] off that limb that stuck out. The limb that stuck out is to says, "How could the tuma go from that piece that's sticking out to the rest of the fetus?" It's too much bas. But it's beautiful because the idea was that this brown over here the each part does not touch each other. Why? Because the only part that's touching that you could actually see is this brown. But it's too thin. The brown itself doesn't touch the other brown. What does touch the white inside? This white touches this white. any any object the top top part is not touching it's only the inside part but the inside part is something you don't see it's always hidden when it's like this you don't see it you don't see white that's bas all you see is brown the white part right over here is not shown it was that safer the question is what's the difference between this uh this picture right over here when you cut off [clears throat] a limb limb and we say that the tuma transfers from the limb into the fetus and this case where the tuma when you cut a bea that's 3x3 you cut it in half the tuma doesn't transfer from one to the other they're both tumas they're both tuma that's connected in a hidden place so said of last night or whenever you learned it that when you're cutting a limb it's inevitable that one little piece is going to touch the other. It's like sort of and as it touches it then it transfers that to it. Now we're holding two lines from the bottom. The difference is that nobody goes around cutting their own garments. It's not made. You have a nice shirt, you're not cutting it. Listen to this. This this fetus is there to be cut up, especially its leg. that's completely we want to chop it off and gone. But anyway, an animal is made to to chop up into pieces and sell and anything that's about to be cut. We had it just a few days ago. Same idea, same concept. Anything that's about to you going to pluck it from a tree, it's as if it's off the tree. Something that's about to be cut. So it's like it's cut new. So look, you have two pieces. They're about to be like this. So now that they are like this, this is nothing. They're touching each other. It's two separate pieces touching each other. So yes, this is hidden, but it's not hidden. It's as if it's not hidden because it's supposed to be like this. It's supposed to be two separate pieces. It's as if it's cut. So the fact that they're touching doesn't mean that they're touching in a hidden place. says mayor this goes like this whole most a lot of this is repetitive and and easy it's a bunch of freebies if you have a handle that's long and you're about to cut it down this in my if you wanna put this in a mikvah. How much do you put in? You don't have to put the whole entire handle in because this is all extra. How much do you put in the mikvah? Just this amount. So let's say this is the top of the mikvah. You go like this. So why? Because holds that all this this whole entire part is you're going to come home chop chop. So this gun ma you don't have to be this part. Ty has asked a wonderful question and he messes up the whole shot here because of that. >> What about this shot? What about the part that you cut? >> That's the whole thing. >> That's that's what Ty is asking here. When you have two two parts, this part is garbage. I don't need it. I But when you put it in the mikvah, it's not allowing water to touch this part right over here. It's creating. So Tus explains that we must be talking about a special handle that's made out of different moving parts and the water gets into every single part. So holds that you could be this. Why? Because you're about you're going to cut this here. We even have a video after all this. I should have been in Koots with Yoshi. This is Gishmak in Bora Park spelled with a tough Well, he had a long handle to do the but afterwards he didn't need it says but that's not only cool you have to be the entire thing could go according to also when it comes to food everything is so soft and it's as if everything is broken up. So at the end of the day they are touching each other even in says so says that the the animal limb as it's being cut it touches the fetus and that's why it makes the fetus tummy. So you have to cut it because during the cutting process, that's when the limb touches the fetus. Why do you have to cut it? He holds that if it's just about to be cut, it's as if it is cut. So why does he physically have to cut it? Says, you're right. You don't have to cut it. In the beginning, it says in the Mishna that if the the limb is attached to the fetus and before you the mother, you cut the limb. The comes to tell you that it's not there's no tuma. So I need to say that it was cut. So since the is talking about it was cut. So the also says it's cut but it's not necessary. If you look at the Mishna it's hard to notice in the beginning but it that's what it says. What does it say in the Mishna that this limb that's attached to the animal to the fetus and you cut it it doesn't create a nea it creates a trauma. The question is what kind of tra is not tummy? That's the whole point. When you sh the you get rid of the why why does say this in there is some sort of and I wonder if we're going to remember this according to yes it has the ability to be there is a gives off a remember that. So the continu we find by gets rid of all the from the sticking the word here saying so to the animal should get rid of the tum of the limb. So now this is what I was saying that we have a whole bunch of [clears throat] freebie here says who got rid of the of the mother. Well obviously you cannot eat that limb. So if you can't eat the limb then it should be tummy. What's going on here? How could you get rid of and not being able to eat it? No, she has the ability to get rid of things that are not part of her more than herself, which doesn't really make sense now. It doesn't really answer the question. We in fact we learn What is going on here? It doesn't answer. So the is going to explain we'll say it again. We learned it many times that the animal itself, if you do the animal, it has the ability to be met a limb that's inside the stomach, but it doesn't have the ability to its own kidney that you cut in its stomach. But how does that answer anything? Some say it's just uh doesn't have a name. Some people say it's anonymous. But interesting, typical. A lot of times you find in the Mishna that there are certain lines missing. You know how to fill them in yourself. Let me explain to you how it goes. So this this starts off regular. Who said according to you I hold it's nothing but according to you that this this uh this foot that's sticking out is not a how did that happen? How did it become not an so if so you should be able to eat it but you can't eat it. So if you can't eat it, it should be. So they said this is where they added that we don't have an hour. No, there's something called a you could get rid of the but you can't eat it. Oh exactly right against what you said. It's not it's not a sometimes you get rid of and you can't eat it. You could take away the tuma from an animal itself because it's itself. How does it have the ability to get rid of something that's not part of it? No. What are you talking about? Sometimes they have the ability, you see, I know people myself, you see, they have the ability to make to encourage other people, but with their own kids, they struggle. Sometimes you could you have more influence on that's not not yours than yourself. This animal herself, she can't save herself. She can't save her own kidney, but she could save the the fetus's leg. Oh, the good news is we have this all over again. So, we learned something just repeating. So if so if it takes away from the so you should be able to eat it this what says is oh we have to add you don't it's that was added I just cop that now that's not oh here we go again we're adding words no it's in these words just not inn you see this concept that What you an animal that has we like we did in prined the animal he opens it up and he says sorry guys you can't eat it all your money that you spend on this sheep toss it away not even one gram of meat garnished but there's no but there's no tuma on that animal we touched it we all blew up the lungs and everything why you're not allowed to eat it but there's no tum itself get rid of the soar introduces something that we're going to be talking about next to you. There's something called a let me show you even a picture a dangling limb. Check this out. You see this? It's a dangler. This is a dangler. It's holding on. So what's that look over here? If you sh this animal, could you eat the bottom part of the leg? Yes or no? What do you say? Does does transfer to that? So that's the a little bit of the works. That's because it's part of it. How does it have the ability to get rid of tuma on a fetus that's not even part of it? Yes, it actually has the ability. It's easier for for it to have influence on something that's not part of her than something that is part of her. And I'll prove it to you. If you cut off a limb from the animal, he cut off its front foot of the fetus inside the mother's stomach. You're allowed to eat that piece. When you shook the mother, if you cut off a part of the mother herself from her spleen, part of a cut of the the kidney, when you sh the mother, that piece just like we saw in the that when this case, this case when you chop off is the mother, they cut off the limb. According to there's no to the rest of the fetus according to there is the same the same will have over here by this case by according to if you shift the animal there's it it uh it has an effect on the rest of the the leg. God according to her mayor no the animals itself it's self that's a dangler and says you're right in our mission says if the if the has an effect on the on the on the actual limb that comes out of the animal Oh, that's what's so here. There's always a new word, a new concept. What's that? What? That when you do, it's as if this limb fell off before the and then it's considered the limb fell off before. So what what happened? So this limb is considered. it fell up before the later on we're going to see that it's not true is gonna ask a question and say no said right now but in a second he's going to change it it's in other words this we're going to right now this limb is later on I'm going to say according to everybody it's it's Okay. What's according to is consistent. He says a limb that comes out of the animal, a limb that's dangling from an animal, both are not part of the animal. They both have tum doesn't work. [clears throat] But why is it that make a distinction? They say, "Oh, if it's a limb coming out of a fetus, then the is great." But when it comes to a limb that's a dangler, no doesn't work. What's the difference? Says they hold. We had a whole in that. What if the animal pulls its leg back in since it could pull its leg back in? So works on it. It's like sort of it has the ability to be good, to be okay. But a dangler can never heal and it's about to to pop off anyway. So the the the doesn't work for question what says that when it comes to uh a dangler everybody holds that the doesn't work because as soon as you do it's as if that that the dangling limb is detached. It's from before. So the question is Listen to this lion. What does mean? It works is good. Not not good. Said it's not good. In what case? Like 10 lines ago or less. He says what? So what you telling me that according to everybody even according to mayor the doesn't do anything for a dangler. He says the works to help a dingling limb. That's because it's its own body. Very good. But tless says that a dangler could be saved by the says on top. is talking according to me you already know my says uh an animal sticking its limb out a dangling a doesn't work but according to you why don't you agree to me by uh okay you want to tell me that a dingler the works great because it's part of the animal that you could see you can see this case right over Here it makes a lot of sense. A lot of people will say that the works in the bottom part. Why not? It's still attached. But at least agree to me that in this case the has no effect on that limb. That's it's not part of its body. So it works well with with that. Tell me that everybody agrees in this case, the case of the dangler that the doesn't work. Says accord does work. How can you tell me everybody says that? You're right. So we can't get out of this question. This is what it really said. This is this is the same as we had before. We're going to change like I mentioned before. We have the same that what hold in both cases by the dangling leg and by the uber sticking his foot out the does work. We have the is only in this case when the when the fetus sticks is put out but when it comes to this case was changing one word. What is meaning the works it's not it's we don't look at it like it fell off the is going to work according to everybody my time is I'll leave the but why does change the now in this case over here on the screen when you have a dingler he says works and in this case he says doesn't work when when the when the limb comes out of the animal says very positive this case on the screen with the limb it's not it's it's not the actual animal so the doesn't work but over here it's the actual animal so the does work everybody agrees that when an animal dies with a dingler that that that whatever was dingling is considered that it fell off before what's going on here it died so it died so the foot is dead The animal's dead. The animal's an avail. No. What do you know? The animal died. So it gives off a tomb of an aa. No. No. No. Its foot fell off before. And therefore what? >> What change? >> What change is very very important? What change? It became a reason. >> Uh-uh. >> No. No. No. No. I don't think you could guess this be. If it falls off before it died, then it's and is different than an if let's say a whole limb fell off. So it's >> and then from that limb a piece of meat fell off. There's no to that. It's a piece of meat that fell off. There's different for whatever for whatever it means. So everybody agrees that when it dies then you find out retroactively that this limb was already the dangler was already not part of it. But everybody agrees. But in other words, the works on a dangler and you can eat the dangling foot. What are we talking about? If we're talking about this case, it can't be the case of the Oh, I don't have it over there. This screen is off for whatever reason. The mission says it doesn't work. Say it doesn't work. We're talking about this guy, the dangler. I wish I would use this last night in the Hebrew. I looked through it. I didn't understand the picture. I'm like, "Okay, next says, "But why? Why do we need this case? These cases were already stated and we don't repeat things twice. You know, we already learned the case of Misa that the animal died with a dangling limb. It says this animal has a dangling limb or or meat that's dangling. So, it depends. There's something called there's something called that in order for something to become you have to prepare it with with liquids. You have to pour one of the seven liquids on it. So meat that fell off that was a dangling piece of meat, you need you need to in order for it to become tame, you need to to prep it with some sort of liquid like any type of meat that that that came off a live animal. And gives off of you see over here. You see this? It's not an it's meaning the the the mis created that it was it's separated. It's not an because it wasn't separated. What would it be? An aa. It dropped dead. So it's an aa but it's not an aa. It's as if it got detached a moment before it died. So we already learned this that the idea that worked to give it [clears throat] as if it was even though it was dangling. Now pay attention is plural. They they become prepared with the blood of the animal. What's they? They means the meat and the dingling limb. Two things. meat, a chunk of meat and a limb. We already learned these two. Great. So why do you have to repeat it? We're not talking about a limb. Maybe we would think that we're talking about meat, but it says plural. So what could it be? It could only be meat and a limb. So, I know that a limb is also included. No, no, no, no, no. They're both referring to meat, but there's two types of meat. One is a piece of meat that comes right off the animal. Another piece that came off the limb that was dangling after the why would I say that one piece of meat is different? Yes, there is a reason. of the the father of this piece of meat. Where did this piece of meat come from? A dangling limb. The dangling limb is a very severe tum. [clears throat] So I would think a very severe tum doesn't need prep. It's so severe you don't need to prep it. You get away you find. Rash says see by a bird also. You don't have to prep. So maybe you don't need to do therefore it says no the two types of meat. So I'm not I'm not forced to say that it's talking about a could be talking two types of meat. Have a wonderful day. [music and singing] >> Merit this of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.