Children On Yom Kippur - Rabbi Zev Smith

[Music] what so [Music] like to welcome everyone to today's show from jakobson 718-851-8651 or email ist at yeshivanet.com i always found most challenging when we have simple shy list that we think we know the answer but i guess you look into it it's not as simple as it seems and today that's a a few of these type of shy lists someone asked me i guess he's his first encounter with this question his child is 12 years old should he be allowed to fast the whole young kipper in other words there's a din of regarding fasting yam kipper what age did he start he heard some do some don't then we had a question someone had a younger child a seven-year-old should he be encouraged or allowed to fast until the next morning that he should go to sleep without eating because they have told you how to sue the massacres and how can i mention someone asked me the candy man who's the most favorite uh beloved person in school should he take a vacation i am kipper should he give out candies is it appropriate even if you're not fasting maybe a child who's eating should only eat what's necessary for his health should he be eating candies in yom kippur question i had also someone went to his parents for yom kippur and they forgot to pack in what we call tish above shoes or slippers for a young child the question is at what age should the child not wear leather shoes is there a shear for that and i'm also talking about the question for those that have to eat whether it's a cotton or a koila the various halal kiddish etc so basically even if you don't not raising young children but as we'll see we touch upon the major usaidis and even for non-children as we see fakhoil that have to eat on yom kippur but i think what the crux of the issue is a very simple question the allah that a child does not fast on yam kipper is it simply because he's like a child i mean someone who's sick does not let a fast maybe a child is a automatic healer because he doesn't have the strength to fast the whole day so maybe a cotton is a form of a kyla so if so he's governed by the same allah or maybe it's not likely that a cotton has a dinner of a choila and that's really the extent of his pater because as we will see when someone's a chiller it's not a hefcability doesn't eat what he wants when he wants a cut a coil that has to eat when possible and typically it's possible he has to eat pakistan's small amount pause small amount try to space out the achilles it doesn't connect by a cotton we don't find that a cotton has to eat purchase purchase also unique to a cotton i think and that is the concept of a tiny choice on any other tightness for any other person even a choiler if he can't fast so there's no purpose in fasting a few hours when someone can't fast he's part of him a tightness you ain't kipper regarding a child as we'll soon see based basically on a missionary a child has to keep tightening his shoes where's that coming from so it seems that there is a special halach is regarding a child and that's really our challenge for today because we know the unique importance the chris it's the only tiniest darizer that's actually corresponding but then again maintaining well health is of paramount importance and since a child so much needs food in fact we have a general halacha regarding children haina vibhisayu that we don't deprive a child of eating because a child has to eat meat a child before half dollar because he needs food for his development so here we have this conflict of interest you want to do the best on yom kippur the child should have a henner but then again heine be review so let's learn the gemara and hopefully we'll get somewhat of a picture and what is the alakazam says a very clear statement [Applause] children are allowed as rashi explains in everything allowed to eat drink wash anoint smear with oil the one issa that a child has is wearing leather shoes and rashi explains like we said because a child does not need to wear leather shoes most babies go without any footwear and even an older child even an adult often wear slippers cracks sneakers who said leather so a child could survive without leather let them not wear leather shoes and will soon see the exact age but a child needs for his development like rashi says revisa he needs to eat and drink and be washed that's an integral part of his development remember the gemura he one of the marayam said i thank my mother the sherman jasoli me the the oil that my mother smeared me with has kept me going so it's part of a child's growth and development to have food and to be and to be washed and oil when necessary so it seems that there's no issue of eating for a child that's iron base fast forward to that pay base the mystery says and i quote hatinays that's a very strong russian you don't deprive a child from food narashi taicha's russia is a very mild interpretation of this mishna but the rambam in paraguay's is much more emphatic don't deprive a child from foods after run in the bays in dav gimel i'm sorry in dafe harif the rambam holds fundamentally different than rashi rashi holds his no here the ram says don't allow a child to fast a child must eat he must develop properly this is akana so here we see regarding food we don't deprive a child because he needs the food in other words maybe this should be by am kipper like there is my evidence maybe if i cared by such a russian mitzvah this should be but he can do it i'll give you a marshall the meaning of many people that a child is not where it's filler until he becomes our midst not even 30 days before ah says that cotton the parent says our children can't do it they can't keep kaducha's filling you can't do it you can't do it a child me then i miss the can't fast yet the next word of the mishna after a man you've trained a child a year or two before under mitzvahs this is the source of what we are going to discuss today the tiny choice not a whole day not necessarily a few extra hours more than he does regularly so it seems that there are two remove them of this mishnah he fast of course he doesn't fast and man on our side but there is a tiny choice now we don't see clearly anything about completing a tightness a year or two earlier like many amiryam that means to complete the first rabbi in the gemara that's in that pay base has a different shot this this tiny choice before bar mitzvah but a child going on does not complete the tightness ever because he's too young he can't do it now la maisa i must tell you to learn to get more properly with the machlakis and then with the likes we'll be showing him you'll see there's many of you saying him we'll take a share for itself we have a big agenda so we're going to go to the gift that's called such an earth did a masterful job and save this time let me read this in tough races there's no issa eating drinking anointing or washing is a sandal and as mr mirror says there's no in if he doesn't wear leather shoes he could find an alternative and we'll soon see what age this is but past is a child has no hat that to wear leather shoes steve bay's is what's important for us and the shocking arrow goes with somebody showing him again it's a bigger but a cotton that's nine years old already that means he's lived already nine full years he's starting his 10th year or a 10 year old who's a little schwa should make tiny choice kate sad if he ate breakfast two hours after he woke up now onion kipper let him wait an extra hour if he waited three hours on a regular day and an extra hour in other words do a little bit to show him that today is yam kippah this is referred to as tiny choice even if it's one extra hour breakfast is delayed an hour the cover jam kipper 11 or a 12 year old child depending on his constitution if he's strong enough he completes the tightness that a child is capable of fasting a full day and 11 or 12 year olds should complete the fast the rama is not happy the rama says our children can't do it especially a weak child but ramos says certainly a weak child should not complete the fast until bar mitzvah that's the sack of drama what's it based on because you learned the gemara held a child never faced the whole tinus so a weak child certainly could rely on him so basically the mechabic mahabharata weak child does not complete the fest but what does mean one thing is bar mitzvah even a day of his bar mitzvah day after whatever company when his mom is by mitzvah he has to fast and indeed after surgery says once is by mitzvah 12 year old for a girl 13 for a boy incidentally it seems that a girl is a little stronger than a boy and rashi in subistaf no in a precious rashi rashi says because boys learn torah and tara matasha but girls don't learn torah so they're stronger they could fast by 12 years old that's where rashi learns after hillary but be that as it may the ramos says a weak child does not have to fast until these bar mitzvahs now what's interesting is the most important i should say is the end of this sieve basin cotton less than nine ain't ma'am and oyster beer kadesh is going with the shita of the rambam that not only does no don't allow a child to fast even a few hours because he's too young in other words we're not being makel and yam kippah we've been mahmeesh for many mitzvahs the share of four five six or seven depending on the mitzvah but for yam kipper even tiny science is nine years old why nine why not four or five plus it because it is a different mitzvah the mitzvah needs strength and for strength nine years old is the age so to apply this lemaiser i think hopefully it should be simple if we just use the usaidis until at age nine the rama says emphatically a child should not fast rebel he says some people let their children fast on the nine and then quotes he said they should protest he says don't forget [Applause] a child should not fast however it's interesting the buchacha and aisha lavrom records the minute that some had that a child was allowed to fast a few hours and he bases it on it but what he says basically is that we don't tell the child to fast a few hours if he's undeniably spotted no one holds you tell him to fast if he wants the faster he feels he could do it no you could turn the blind eye let him do it but even that's he writes a lesson like the minute show that's the right thing but many poise kim don't like this minik the mycera keach it's also on the rambam he says ma what are we following the childs of my venus he brings akana miso just follow the such an undeniable child should not fast in other words why do we allow this child to deposit and ignore and taka most poison say don't let a child face under nine years old now it seems that the minute that the buchachi was aware ready to call by one of them is showing him in simmons he says some people don't listen to the rambam and you should be so it seemed like it's an old minig to let children face but the kobe already says we have to protest on the nine a child should not fast the only question that i did see some talk about is let's say the child's under nine what does that mean he should not fast well he has to eat by by middle of call nigeria surabayashiv is quoted as saying in the ashrae is that to fast till the next morning is fine even undeniable because the iss is ain't noisy don't deprive him he just had a big suit yeah he's not starving him he doesn't eat by by calling so he could go to sleep fasting but first thing in the morning ask his own to hate and i saw also the elephant on the mata francis cotton hey and the channel in the corner all say this minute if the child wants to go to sleep and he's thirsty let him drink let him eat if he wants to but it's mashma that typically the child went to sleep without eating if he wanted so now if the child is hungry or thirsty all agree let him but if la maison the child wants to go to sleep without eating even under nine we could allow that to happen but i did see a very nice raya that even that's not problem and here we come to probably one of the biggest insights for today the magnavrom in the beginning of race time discusses the meaning that today it's rare to find and you still see it but the minute used to be that they made kiddish in shul friday night but the one that's making it the kid is the gaba i can't drink the wine it's not much so the mahabharata says dominic is give it to a child so this is a big question a child is still a heat how can you give a child to each in order to give a child to do an issa eating before kid this is an ism and this is based on an important important you say especially for today the asylum is the but an adult any adult even not the father can give a child an issa to eat you must learn that if i'm sooking you can't give a child damn or swatsim even if he's and he wants to take the food on his own your ladder you could let him but an adult can't give a child like don't give a child to do an issue in fact is that mr bureau is an incredible example of lay safinon a asia's client who's expecting so how could you go into a hospital if there's a choice of course how could you go into a hospital that there's an oil that there's a mace in that oil if the baby is born it's going to be a cayenne she's an asia's cayenne so the child is born into an issa of thomas i the baby is not even a day old a newborn but that's safina subpoena does not have a limit only a one-year-old so the only hat there is mr guru says is we have a sex sacrum maybe it will be a girl and if maybe khalil it won't survive the the birth maybe it's a stillborn so all the heineken police can say today you could be mavari you could find out with a sonogram the gender of a child there's no longer a sex faker so the terrorist says if you can't be mad both fakes are any suffering a lot of lumbers but no doubt about it safina means you can't give a child to do an issa even a young child so the morgan abraham has a how could we give this kid this wine to the child even if he's loyal and certainly what about safina so the magnet havram in one of probably the biggest decide of today safinan is does not apply to food a child must eat he has to eat and even if they're for kiddush plus of course this is not giving him tray for wine it's kosher wine just this man is the problem right now before kid is if he if he wants to wash now the wine is fine so it's a double component first of all the child has to eat and number two it's not tariffs it's just asmani now is us mother and mother proves it varia we learned in tough race to zion that you're allowed to give a child to eat must be that there's no safinan by food that's kosher and it's only an issa on this man because again the child is not eating tarpon yum kipper he's eating kosher food soy sauce will kaminsky in the safer points out the manganese rum compares kiddish drinking wine of the kiddish and eating them kipper both of them are at night and presumably the boy ate lunch heir of shabbos he's not fasting and yet we see there's a heter to eat drink wine because there's no saphen on the right child and he compares that to eating him kippum so even at night when he didn't sleep a whole night there's still a hecta of ribey sayo the fact that the margaret has to say it's mother we see that even at night even if he ate a kipper sued them but a child that wants to eat there's no indian of telling him to too fast or even allowing him even overnight no i think many people have this minute so we could say it's not kinetic you say it is it's not because he ate a soda but all agree i want to make a point all agree that if a child wants to eat or drink before avada you have to let him because that would be a violation of ananias now it's postured also i should mention that when he said so you start again what's the age nine years old if he's very weak ten years old but whenever he eats breakfast try to delay it an hour someone asked an interesting question we don't give a child a broomstick and a lemon and say here's your dollar meaning it's good enough just practice because practice means doing the surah mitzvah so why pong tanyam kippah do we have a new mitzvah of fasting an hour there's no such mitzvah either fasting or no and the truth is other myths other than the oys we don't have a dinner of tennis choice so what's this about young kippah it's a new here for fasting out so one shot and that's what you really if you're looking at a banana manually one of the residents he seems to learn this shot it's takanara rather than it's practice that's lost in a mischievous how is it going to go from eating a whole day to fasting the whole day so it's not the typical also and i saw this in a wonderful say he says when do we say you have to have the surah mitzvah when you have a choice either give him a dollar dominion or a broomstick and a lemon so we say don't give broomstick of them that's that's ridiculous but here what's your choice not an hour to what you do infesting all day that's the kind of stuff so if you have no choice you have to do something but what i found beautiful the stifler in killer simultaneously the whole discussion about if you need the tsuru's hamitz and he says someone asked me what's the tales of tiny choice that's not a tsui mitzvah he says why not if you want something don't eat onion kip and he eats so he gets an irish then he eats again and you want him again don't eat any eats what's the chat zak did staipler part of every moment of india is a mitzvah and violating the khalillah is the worst of era so fasting for an hour is the tourist mitzvah he goes a whole day but no one will say that an inner different hour is nothing it is something it's the mitzvah of inui so the mice said that's why we're not going to find tiny choice them but it's exclusive to your kippah the unique they are because of the christmas and it is a tsurus mitzvah now but i said someone said today they go to sleep later maybe they should be eat before they go to sleep because they're mad they're hungry too if their child's hungry let them eat but one thing i will say someone asked me an interesting question so why don't we say he's a tiny choice that the 10 year old maybe should be going to tiny choice by fasting until the next morning but why's he have to wait an hour extra so obviously that's built in that that's not considered tiny choice but la maisa it seemed that when he wakes up whatever he usually eats breakfast let him wait an hour or so and that will be his the next question is challenging because it's really a very serious question what age does the child fast from isis should the parent encourage force the child to fast so that we saw this says 11 or 12 11 or 12 you should fast or hamas says well eleven and maybe a caucus shouldn't fast and we were lying on but comes again the bach and that was simmon and the back says in our times a few hundred years ago our children i i can't explain this exactly he says but our children coulomb them they all learn so now as the rav adds a few words and therefore they experience our children don't fast at age 11 even if they're healthy now i don't know what changed maybe you know they started learning more maybe there's a bigger a lot of review of limit but the bach is definitely saying that even a healthy child when he's 11 years old should not fast that's one kiddish but there were the bigger dishes they are your rabbits if cotton dal it says minaganu by halti naikais don't fast until bar mitzvah girl till 12 boital 13. now if the truth if you look in the back the bach has another samara because today we are weak by constitution and we don't know and therefore we treat like a suffix sarcona and we never failed so the bach really was talking only about 11 year old the rabbi extended even to a 12 year old and basically said katana never complete the fast bismarck in his times and certainly our time to have a week around week the mr burke records this el uraba and he says until 13 children do not complete the fest now it seems to be two reasons number one we learned a lot says and also we're weaker and it's interesting how things have changed yeshua siakov and toffrey's tazay and steve bayes writes people don't fast a 12 year old a lot of fast i don't know where it's coming from he says but maybe the reason is there's a whole shallow oil and it's a sufficient but he says i when i was younger i passed skin that they have to fast the whole day then i realized that people children are weaker and every child they get the aim by sakana so when i have a child i send them to a different place like the baskin i know he's make them if there's no one available i will pass ken that he should eat until by mitzvah so people are mellowing in in obviously realize them at seas and the embassies we see this i mean you know all the people see this because more than i but we all see this that i was eight is they fasted all the time never allowed children to fast until bar mitzvah he says people say after faster once before not true in fact in pesach 11 something amusing as almond said that there are three things relating to number three that the belt makes a mistake people say after fast three times four before you by mitzvah people say that to bring a safer terror to a base off you have to lane three times no such thing and people say you have to wash three times for davening no such thing in other words yeah we wash about you have to wash but to wash three times that's only an egg of asa and i say i want to wash the times fine but if they just finish this year and they're about to stop min line out the door and you start washing three times with the kaylee that's from and don't watch three times because so the mice is interesting that you'll see people that insist the child should fast the last year okay i guess they go uh without all this but their mommy panu goes back a few hundred years ago and simon could feed outlive he says some people allow the child to fast they know he could do it but make sure to watch him against him kipp would be a mask to me that he could do it and if he starts to feel weak you force them to eat so basically it seems that dominic and most people is not to force it not to have allow a child to fast someone asked me he has to hear it has a minute or heard about a minute that a child of 12 year old should fast till khadzoys i didn't find any of the earlier play skin maybe it's maybe like we said it's a unique type of not so instead of a tiny choice it's a wonderful i think if he could do it but again if a person would ask me it seems most players can insist he should not fast until bar mitzvah now la maison again girls fast at 12 and the way rashi seems to imply rashing super daphnon because they don't learn terror they don't have this term marquesas the embassies you might say so wait a minute the girls don't have dermatitis so why even 12 maybe 11. the truth is our girls they learn a lot some learn more than their brothers but besides that they have the second reason that today there's a physical khulsha so lamai said the girls fast at 12 is good enough but until 12 we follow the minute next question is also an important question that has different expressions of the xylem for a child that is eating could he eat any amount could eat any food should the candy man be on duty i'm kipper giving out candies that he really doesn't need and he just you know just calories and and you know cavities and so the embassies you're wondering if it's not he's not fasting what's the difference if he eats a you know a boston cream pie like what's the difference what's wrong and what's wrong if he eats more than he has to eat so here we come to an interesting thing maybe taco there's no limit don't forget every girl that has to eat tries to minimize pakistan and there's the second that he has enough to eat he can't eat more if a limb is sucking hot idiom kipper and that says you know something from that one you're fine you could fast if you want ask your rabbi the rabbit would say too fast once you you know i why aid already okay so you don't have the midst of of of you didn't complete the time if you haven't it's a healer so but by a child we don't have pakistas maybe taco for a child once he's not fasting it's half good of health he could do what he wants especially visits work with foreign but maybe by a child at most this tiny choice and after that it's half good revelation and that is the past is without doubt the min if he doesn't need it he goes to the extent then saying in theory even a newborn baby if you know for sure that he doesn't need more than this amount of food then you can't give him more there's the regulation of sofina be a diet just by a newborn and a young child you never know and it is ever possible that's too much but says the min emphatically if you have a child that you know he ate enough he's already 40 pounds overweight and he ate a double lunch because he doesn't need any food right now for the parent to give the child more to eat he doesn't need that food there's no red beside you it's not good for them in fact now if the child takes it on his own and his voice so you don't have to that's not your business but if the child if to give it the parent to give to the child if he doesn't need it again we're talking if he how you know you know he doesn't need it a six seven eight-year-old that's eating more than he needs is he could do what he wants i mean but the parent cannot feed that child but he doesn't need again i'm not saying what he need but he doesn't need but if you know he does not need it it's also and he calls it the rights of safina according to him they mentioned if you don't find such a thing but again you can't just be but the main thing on the min beside that no one says it is that safeinon is not shy by food that kosher food if it's only an issumani because young kipper and it's kosher as opposed to diamond schwarzenegger that doesn't apply the east of safina so what changed and i saw nissan careless points out in the safe of channing um already says where he says that it's that there's no isakhilam by foreign kipper it's only something that is that he could live without that he can manage without he doesn't need dam or shraps him but it's not like on foreign there is no light there is no light i saw the mars has three lengthy tubes all discussed this and says it's a hidden that we didn't find and also it's hard to accept now again we can't just be but we could definitely say that the poison before and after are not questions for this now the only thing i want to point out is okay so the child wants food you've got to give him food even if you think he has enough there's no then subpoena should the child be given candies and unnecessary nation again national today nash includes you know cookies and i'm talking about cookies and pretzels and cake and and healthy snacks is fine i'm talking about what he doesn't need for health at all chocolates and and creamy cakes should the child be not be given nash that is not part of his development and chocolate and candies and sweets that mamas doesn't add much to his health so muscularis we might say we have a ferrous in the car the mr burn tough cuff non-hazit cotton hey quotes that regarding of course who has to eat on kish above should eat but he shouldn't eat pasta and yay don't make a party out of it eat only what's necessary and then he says and this is and even a child that has to eat him a child must eat nothing he must eat but you have to give an extravagant lunch give him bread and water now today we don't give a child bread and water he will sue for child abuse you know lunch bread and water breakfast 101 so you give them a decent meal but nothing extravagant but it seems from this debra that's tom nash but certainly like the milk that's not necessary but the embassy look again the mr bureau the andy which is the makara of course from the umami panel is talking about tish above tishbo is so even though he can't faze but available that's part of his yiddish guy but jim kipper is just the opposite the am kippen is the very opposite of tisha tishbov is the saddest day of the year kip is the happiest so try to contribute as a young tip once he's not fasting i'm almost tempted to say there's an ointment again kipper let him have a a nice fancy cream cake and take the nitty-gress says you know you allowed to give him even madonna because yum kippah is different than tisha bob it's a however there's a strong makha because true yam kip is a yomtiv but again it's hard to believe there's a mitzvahnik we'll soon see the prize can discuss there's no myths of kiddish even so what is it it's a yamtiv it's the yomtiv of all young don't forget it it's the greatest day of the year you know the ones here some as almond on a random day what's your happiest moment of the year happiest moment and without thinking he said the happiest moment when i make it shaykhian kipper i go into azar grace it's my happiest moment haskell used to refer to him as a mabul you know we had a mob the other week we know what it means no it's the biggest yomtiv in potential in kadusa but it is does it have yomtiv replied we don't say that for 25 26 hours so how do you jump saying oh you're not going to face so it's maybe we have to keep oinig inui in a certain extent now if a child takes what he wants to take no so you have to stop me but for a parent to give a child oinig onyem kipper maybe that would be a stereotyping it's not a veilus but inori and taka i still get that finger i didn't see in the earlier ice cream rabbi yashev and ashley is called gimbal gimmel rav sternberg in the chubbus even more emphatic he says to give a child madanim that he doesn't need is subpoenaed on the father as a child takes chocolate so you don't have to die if you like your business but also that syrupy ankle boy also involved tazhayan also is concerned about what he definitely doesn't need that might be a violation of subpoena what i think is a very good uh nissan career ahmed khuf nunzayan he says a child on the nine there's no like sakhilam and he could even eat candies and ash over nine then he has to eat what he has to eat he doesn't spell it out but i think he means say but he should not be eating he certainly shouldn't give him these unnecessary nash so it's same thing that really makes sense a child under 9 you know if the child you know even though many are and if the child wants to take it if i don't have to stop him i mean i would think he shouldn't you know you shouldn't give it to him but la maison overnight when he's already a stickle of baravana what's going on again it's not available to shelter it's the happiest day but there's no indian of ionic that overrides inui so the maison again if the child doesn't ask for it don't give it to him now the candyman so maybe we'll save left for the less than nine year old then you're gonna have to have to start showing you know birth certificates and also stick a leg leros for the um for the overnight so i think he should take vacation again it's a certain finicko so the the greatest kite of the tug the symbol of the day is the eno don't forget that that's our you know we you know because we say the ram does not refer to it as inui he calls that vacation we take vacation from gashamis beautiful way of looking at it you put on your towers you keep them and you go into a different world you'll keep so why shouldn't the child feel that oh let them feel a little bit the grey's kite of the day a important question that we have to deal with is basically the which almost in january my could say that could a person give a child to eat out of the sukkah so you might reason since they give their eyes to eat out of the sukkah mitzvah their eyes are silk and something is an isle in fact so maybe you can't give a child of any age even you as not a father any kid cannot give a child of any age to eat out of the sukkah maybe that would be a violation of safinan however we find this that uh that child that's not here of circle does it make sense that it is athena the answer obviously is that you shouldn't feed the child out of the sucker that's safina here we have both factors it's customer food and it's review of the child he cannot go to the sukkah he needs his mother so because he needs the food there's no reci there's a ribbon and it's head to food there's no issue of giving a child on the to eat out of the sugar the other question which i found quite challenging is what age should a child not be wearing or should not adult do not put a child on leather shoes so you wonder we just worked in this we just discussed it we came out that food basically is pretty pretty cool a dick a child needs it why don't we say it's the part of the same young kipper let the child the same allah till nine there's no problem and after nine you know depending on the child we cannot because the gemara says differently that is in other words a child needs his eating and drinking but does not need the leather shoes we don't compare shoes with other isuriyam kipper and the truth is we see this a child under a year or so doesn't even wear shoes they don't put on shoes and how many adults don't wear leather shoes anymore with other different options so he doesn't need it now it might even come out a bit that to put a child on even lawyers leather shoes is wrong because not real beside you whatever we have to be had by food that's we decided this is me dina gemara and the truth is i must tell you the pastors would be that to put a child on leather shoes should begin even the youngest age and the me and yuma on that kimura that if i inhesit there's no reason that there's no purpose for them wearing leather they should not be wearing leather shoes and again i saw hindi police that say that the issa of leather shoes begins at the youngest age now of course he could do what he wants but for a parent to put on the child leather shoes might be suffering at the youngest age i looked into this and i found wasn't quite exactly he says age two or three the iss starts because he says if he is of age that it that he could go without the other shoes to make sense two or three if he needs the the leather shoes for whatever reason then you allowed to put it on so manohar he says two or three is the right age puts the age at six five or six gil gilshesh it's the age of six he should not wear leather shoes absolutely also says the age five or six he could wear leather shoes i've been seeing a bashol and it's true was your gimbal dalit says the age of dalaray hey and no one seems to be concerned about sapinon why not so it could be they held that if it's not awesome it's not an isa like dam and nevaeh and toma leather as is it perfectly mother it's not sharpness so maybe they held there's no subpoena at a younger age but again it makes sense that if indeed they don't immediately would be a value they don't live for their development so one of the main apparent fell away they had to of redecided and not apply and the embassy in the ago points out that maybe even at the youngest agent kipper there's an issue of subpoena so certainly a a if and at all possible a child should not be wearing leather shoes even at a young age if someone came to his parents and his child doesn't have shoes to win he wants to go to school so then even an adult that that cannot walk in the streets without leather shoes if it's necessary there would be a hat so maybe that younger child you can rely on the street there's five or six or whatever it is but in swara this is one candidate we could say that the age is really immaterial this is the gemara that led us to not the hector beside you unless you want to say if it's not us to perhaps there's no subpoena at all like zombies trying to hold that alone is a heter that might justify this this minute the last group of questions is the most delightful because you see how it's interesting how a nuance valacha has so much of the maison a child or a haila it's basically the same thing that half the iranian kippum do they take them they're going to wash should they have sounds funny but then again why not it's a umptive and more so let me ask you a question did mon extreme fall air vm kipper you say if you say it didn't because they didn't even yam kippah so what they eat matsuyam kippah so probably the one fell right about otherwise they stopped until the next morning so once it fell so then we have a reason to have la chemista and that's why the navrum in tough races in other words once you're not fasting you're back to the umptive mode evidently he assumed that mon fell and airbnb why not is not convinced the laitik new came by purim there's no one of them are going to have rome hold so again that's the original question of course it's a yomtiv of all yamato it's the greatest day the best well goes that today remember today is a day of enui today we fast you have to eat us so ask is under hate but it's a day of fasting what do you mean we're going to run kids on yom kippur unthinkable today in fact they even said you shouldn't see in benching and i would say on chapters because it's not a he says but the mice he says since the tour says to say y'all kippah when you bench so i can't argue on that but kiddish on the day of enoi totally inappropriate and that's why the ramen says there's no lachemism he says i agree to the career sector listen you're eating eat like a yomtiv and have lucky and i found others that say this also they say that la maison there's a swara that maybe the one did not fall double airvam kipp he doesn't say what they ate a matsuyam kipper but if it did you didn't need it from kippah to eat i khoylan had to eat you don't make a lachemish just for hailem more so and this i saw one one of the the mata says this and others say this as well even if it fell from matsuyam kippah but the mixture we eat on shabbos and yamato because it fell on arab for the shabbos where do we find that doesn't make sense use it but don't go don't you know make yourself you know sugar to find it imagine someone feels very weak and they're upset you must eat i can't i gotta get like a mystic but where you get it go home eat if you don't have it eat without lachemist it's an extra but it's definitely the mystery by a cotton has to eat there's an additional smart that is and this is a biggie soy in general is training when you get older when he gets older because he won't eat a young kipper so you're practicing for the wrong way so most people make up a sunday night because you don't eat those sunday night how about a child that has to eat says this slower regarding our shilom amish that a child has no here on yom kippur regarding because he won't do when he's old hopefully because i won't eat so a child more than a ghoila does not have to take a mishna does a khailo slash child that has to eat on make kidness on yom kippur like this year or in but like other years so that we already saw the magnetic rum is convinced a day of eating is not a day of kiddish even if cotton bays says wait a minute i understand says that we find in halakha regarding our carbonaries that kedusha shabbos is is overridden by the kadushrim kippurim so even though there is shabbos on a regular shabbos but overrides that and that's why basically although vega is the grace of kevin but la mais said the police kim say not to make kiddish not on yam kipper and even that's the but to make hidden suffix bronchus don't make kiddies comes again you can see caught in gimbal because yes he had his uh his sheeta and and he said wait a second suffolk brock i don't understand because the girl that has spades presumably not eating at night he's eating by day right by day it's only gotham what's the broccoli he calls in a zero simpson now it's a pella because you look in the back of the fridge he calls it that says the the kash is not a costume because we all know reish if you don't make kidneys at night even maize it you make the full kidneys by day so who cares at night he didn't make kidneys but now he has to make his full kids she invited back to suffolk and that's why la mais the minute what's bothering me personally you can't just mahavek or kevigan you know they say someone brought rubber safer he said he wrote the answer that every beginner egg is conscious except for three cautious so there's something rough looked it goes ah i see you only understood three of the vegas conscious because the rest anything you understand you can't answer the three you didn't answer you understood here also you can't even understand so what's the shot so i was thinking maybe a shot is posted if there's a kiddish at night and you missed it so then by day then you have to make up if he was a regular even though he's a highlander maybe but he might have to eat at night he didn't know how he's kidding so made by david nothing changes the problem i have with that is the mechanism has to make up by day so it could be it's not a dinatash lumen maybe it's here now to make a full-fledged kiddish unless we say if there was no kiddies at night could have given egg health there'll be no kid there's three of kids by day only a gothic world but it's not a broccoli now smoke a mesquite right it's a very positive husband a coil or a child could take a case of wine grape juice that is a and make a coffin you don't lose there's no bra suffocate with that maybe take the chrysis the belt doesn't do that because maybe that's a madonna if you don't need it avoid it when a crayola or cotton does eat he has to wash regular teals the as far as this is not a rocket show mitzvah i we know that negovas will only wash just the knuckles that's because the din rakura is only on the fingers till they're not till the end of the knuckles but since past you have to wash the entire hand for bread so i saw a whole list of poison and many others all say if he's eating bread a cabaya that is and he has the three of government until you die him he should wash a regular nationalism with a broker if he's only eating a small amount so there's no here that's hiding like many cheetahs sadaki should wash only the fingers and of course not make a almaty grab the the meaning of kahanam today is to wash regularly for dukhning so the teoside for bread is not less than that washing it's only a special din in negobasa or ashiyatsa that's only the fingers and i should mention some say the reason why we only washed the fingers nega said because i'm kipp but this is from kathmainum it's such a hail day that is very limited it only goes to the fingers so you don't need more but foreign after of course when he ate and now he wants to bench so first of all the price can say i saw the tariffs are shulking again in the back of the tissue without washing without benching but washing my recoiling because so yeah i'm kipping tishrov is no different when he finally washed my machine he was about to bench should he say you would say aloe vera so this is a machida poison i should mention but even the magna avram who felt you don't have to but he agrees to the tour and that's the mini of claw israel the meaning of that adds a child adds and would say on shabbos the only i saw is that if he forgot the olivia would say even on a regular shop is it jumped if you don't you do repeat it but for this we could rely on the day is not to repeat it because it's not the holidays if he forgot his rehab he forgot to say jalavi away or would say and remembered before he started the next brahman should he put in this special shortened short bracha version that really compensates for yala village or would say which we do on a regular shabbos and yamtiv so here the mr brewer and see and or the poison that he should because you have to say it but he says no since some say but the evidence you forgot it you don't say it so we don't even add this special bro because it's not a day that we are certain that we have to say alveolar might be unnecessary an interesting question is la maison when a child ate cake or adult egg cake does he add um yom kippur or shabbos because we don't add it all the time we don't edit so maybe amkippe is like hanukkampurin but stay true why taco don't we add it to al wondering why not there's no sapinon why not because we don't touch muktsa on yom kippur we don't if you can't eat maybe it's muksa more specifically on pesach we find the tough member of gimel that a person should not touch uh comments on pesa they might come to eat it so maybe you shouldn't touch it because this much and it might come theater or both however it's clear and there are the end of tough race you would bathe that you're allowed to feed a child now i'm so that's that's not a problem because i'm isis like we say it's on pesach so the police can say on pace that we're eating regularly so you might come to eat yeah i'm keep not eating at all the animals are deemed we don't get near food if you have to do a mitzvah feeding a child you're allowed to touch the food and last but not least something to think about listen to this island a 12 year old boy was very very strong and he decided in a fest but now we fifteen after my reviews i'm very thirsty could i drink is it half dollar but we have to go home we have to we walk 50 minute walk i want to drink now is there any hectare for me so the lambda might find an interesting hectare a child's medicine is allowed to eat before kitties and abdullah that's where we saw you so why is it different you could eat before half dollar ah wait a minute you just fasted 25 hours you raman didn't bother you beside you so off says now but the answer yeah maybe taka now he's represent you so come down the mountain the tiniest young kippy faster the whole day but now the 50 minutes of waiting i have to be careful because some people especially i'm crippled drinking water before abdullah might be a stickler but if you're talking drinking before abdullah is more cow than the tiniest of yom kippur foreign [Applause] [Music] okay [Music] hey