Clappy's Mom Tells it all

Hey guys, welcome to the Clappy Frank 13th episode. We stop stop counting. At what point do we stop counting? >> 13 is a very special number. >> Yeah. >> And for our 13th episode, our bar mitzvah. We have on the most special person in my entire life. My dear mother. >> Hi. >> Everybody should welcome my mother. And I have to be very careful when I say the most person most important person of my entire life. My baby sister Khani. We grew up together. There's a big gap between the four top and the bottom siblings. My parents used to always joke around with her and they used to say, "Who do you love more, mommy and Taty?" And she used to always say, "I'm a both, baby." >> Both. >> Both. And now with >> And now one of my kids, my Sammy, he always would say, "Who do you love more, mommy and Tati?" And he says, "Both." But when he wants to tease me if I don't let him do something, he'll say, "I'm going to love mommy more." So I love my parents equally and the most amazing parents in the whole entire world. But my mother, we're having my mother on tonight. Hopefully one day we'll have my father on. It's hashem. But my mother has a very, very interesting story. >> You still think it's interesting. 40 years later, >> I'm always amazed by my mother. She's a superm mom. Not a soccer mom, a superm mom. And whenever people talk about parents and trauma and therapy and all this nonsense, whatever. No, it's real. I always I wish people would be as blessed as me cuz I'm like the >> You don't relate. You don't relate. >> The top the top most amazing mother in the entire world. and her story. I don't think we could cover it in one episode or even two or five. >> A book. That's why there's a book. >> Publishing a book of some >> Is there a name or no name? >> Sippy remembers when >> is that the same as your articles in the show? It's I've been writing for the Labavich new u magazine that comes out five times a year >> and every every every issue has one of my articles and I write true totally non-fiction things that have miraculous things that I have seen in my childhood in my lifetime things that my father and mother went through and I just want to share my my desire is to share them with everyone with Claudia's soul because it is so miraculous. There are things that just you cannot believe. >> Did you predict that really would be become a a big celebrity or that came as a surprise? >> He was the jokester in our on our shabas table every Friday night and shabas afternoon. He was not even five years old. He would get up and tell a joke and he loved it. He loved it. The people couldn't didn't have an appetite after he finished some of his jokes because it ended off kind of gory, but he well loved it. He loved telling jokes and not surprised. No, no, not really. No, not really. >> He told me the only person ever told him he should become do ban ban comedy and stand up was you. How many years ago did she tell you that? >> Always. Always. How long ago? When I was struggling with my career, she would always say, "All you have to do is get up and say jokes and people will love your jokes." But I will tell you something about my mother and this is for all people in the world that are watching their and you know raising children. I remember when I was standing when I was in like 15, 16, 18 years old and I'm standing on the phone asking rabbis to hire me as a kazin for Shashan M Kipper screeching on the phone. I'm tonedeaf and I have the worst voice in the world and I'm trying to fight with them that they have to pay me thousands of dollars. >> You ever get booked? I was getting the low-end guys like $400 or 500 kipper. They would make me do everything shak and I was didn't realize they were taking advantage of me because they didn't need a kaza. It was such a poorest drug. And I'm like 18 years old screeching on the phone. M you remember this. My mother says you have a bad voice. You're not A KAZIN. YOU'RE NOT A KAZIN. And I was like I thought my mother was supposed to tell me like you're always the most amazing thing in the world. She says callim. tell them they should book you a ticket and pay you a little money and give out to the And it was I think after that I like the game was over. I stopped screeching on the phone and you imagine a a rabbi of a show hears ME SCREECHING OH THE GUY probably migra are you tonedeaf >> completely tonedeaf. >> So who gave you the who gave you that false sense >> two episodes ago >> who gave you the false sense of confidence that you could sing >> two episodes ago >> do you remember two episodes ago with Yuri Co and you and him were singing at the end like a two-minute song. Yes, >> you will not see my lip move for a second. Zero sing. I know for my mother, she's not giving me She knows all her children. She knows who's good at what, >> who has which talents. And one of the most incredible thing about my parents, and they work as a solid team, is my parents always say, "We're not equal." Great thing about raising children, we're not equal. What are we? >> We're fear. >> We're fear. If one kid needs um um um orthodontists need braces for $7,000 doesn't mean the other child is entitled to $7,000. >> So tell us your life story. Where were you born? >> Okay. I >> now she's going to have to age yourself. >> And then and then No. And then you be and I we said on the first episode that both of our mothers are writers and performers, right? >> Authors of books. >> I know that. So, uh, it's funny that their two sons ended up >> on a podcast together. >> It's true. >> So, I I made that direct correlation day one. So, >> what's your story? >> Okay. I'd like to first >> because my sister says that every sibling of Swilly could also make their own podcast. That's what she told me. >> Probably they all have a story. I've had a miraculous childhood because I come from parents that had unbelievable childhoods. I'll give you a little bit. I don't want to go into it because if you'll get my book, you'll read it, >> you'll see all the details. >> Got to pay that mortgage. >> But I had grandparents that came to America in the late 1800s from the city. My Bubby Braha came from the city of Mir. and her father learned they had a large family. Their name was Cantraitz. They were related to Rabbi Kanovich who was the Roshiva of Mir in the late 1800s and early 1900s. She came on a her mother worked she had a grocery store in the city of Mir. Her husband went Friday afternoon came home from learning and he would come home and mose shop as he went back to learn his wife ran a grocery store for all the from people that learned in Mir. My bubby came to America. Um, met my Zeta who was also a very very litish man from Poland. Bad and all. And they struggled and a lot of my stories talk about their life struggles living on the Lower East Side, not able to take a job because if you took a job, you had to work on Chabus, which was the facts then, and you would starve. And Mike Zeta had a push cart that he would rent every week. And that push cart he had buttons and dish towels and whatever he was able to >> That's your grandfather cure. That was my za >> za mayor >> and zade mayor and your father >> and my father in lived in a starvation of depression. His parents had over 10 children. They took in every niece and nephew that had no because the lower east side had MTJ. They were very close with the mosha Feinstein and his entire family. They were like brothers. They dabbed in his shoo. My father did >> You grew up in Loride? >> No, my parents did. Where'd you grow up? My father did. I Williamsburg. >> Williamsburg. >> But my father went to MTJ till the eighth grade. They couldn't afford it anymore. My father had to get out of the eighth grade. He went to Knight High School called Seward Park High because he had to work or else you'd starve. My father, now one little tidbit which you won't believe. When my father was 5 years old, there was never food on the table. It was depression. My father was five years old just to talk about my father's personality. >> But I'm named after. >> Yes. He got up 5:00 in the morning. No one in the family knew it. Got a hold of newspapers. Told the people the first couple of times, "I'm going to sell the newspapers. I promise I'll come back and I'll give you the money." At five years old, 5 in the morning, came back 8:00 in the morning, went straight to pay up for the newspapers that he would sell around Delansancy Street near the subway there. He would go straight to the grocery store, buy two large loaves of bread, two big pieces of butter and two containers of milk, and very quietly he would go onto the into the kitchen, put it down on the table, and run back. Never told anybody who did it. His parents didn't even ask, and everyone came out starved in the morning before they went to yeshiva. The girls had no yeshiva. girls unfortunately were three sisters, five brothers. They had two cousins from Lakewood that weren't from because the parents couldn't keep shabas. My bubby took them in and put them into MTG. >> So where does your book start? >> It starts. >> Is it your life story or is it articles that you publish? >> My life stories. >> Not the articles or the articles is your life story. The magazine. >> It is. It is. But in different topics, in different instances, I talk about certain yum tim how we celebrated it in our home. >> What about when Ju was young? Do you relate to that? You know, when Ju was young, the table >> my father went into World War II. He had eight years of yeshiva education. He got drafted. It was World War II. And my father went in, trained as a medic. He was a paramedic in the in World War II and he was a sharpshooter. My father literally got a medal, a couple of medals for sharpshooting. And the day he w they were putting him on a boat. None of us would be alive now. He would have been the first one killed in the world. >> They were sending him to Japan. >> They were sending him to Japan. And >> and Fetai says the boat was torpedo. day the day my two or three days before he meets a friend that went to MTJ with him. His name was Dr. Schulberg. I never knew his first name. He was a yeshiva friend who became a dentist. Unfortunately, kind of went off the derek and he saw my father Irving, my father's name. He says, "Irving, what are you doing here?" And my father said, "I'm leaving tomorrow on the ship. I'm a paramedic." He says, "I don't believe it. I He finished his dental school. He was working. It was in the training army camp in Texas. He went ahead and got my father off the ship and said, "You're going to help me with my dental surgery. He needed a medic. My father was doing blood transfusions and IVs and my father. >> Never." This was World War II. Now, let me just tell you one dynamic thing about >> You said that boat sunk. What? That's what that's what says. >> My brother says that. But I'll tell you one thing. My father went into the army. He spent four years. >> He brought along a pot, a dish. Nothing was disposable in the army in those days. A pot, a dish, a spoon, a fork, a knife, and every single meal he volunteered to do the dishes. If you were lucky once or twice a week, you'd be picked to do Cape World kitchen. It was the worst thing. It was the worst thing. And my father volunteered every single meal. >> Why? >> Because once he finished doing all the dishes and peeling all the potatoes and finishing up, he would take his little pot and make himself boiled potatoes, eggs, and oatmeal. And that's how he lived for four years. >> So he avoided the military. He didn't. He used to >> he was in the military eating potatoes and eggs. >> What's with the denture? >> Oh, he worked instead of being sent overseas as a paramedic. >> His friend saved him. >> His friend saved him. He spent four years >> four years in the army on a training camp in Texas. >> Oh, in the US. Got you. Now, >> tens of thousands of soldiers go through there. He was a dentist. >> And he was there the whole four years. He even became a corporal after a couple of years. And that's how he This to me was the most miraculous mysterious nephish. Once every couple of months they would he would get a furlow to be off on yontiff and chabas and in the shul in Texas the from shul they used to put little little notes please come to us for shabis if you're off on your furlow. And he somehow every couple of months he would get a hot kosher piece of chicken. Otherwise he lived on oatmeal, eggs and potatoes. >> So where let's get to you rabbitson. Where were you born? What's your story? >> I was born when you become a famous writer. >> Lower east side. I mean on the lower side. No, I was born in Williamsburg. >> What street? >> I originally Rodney Street. They took Rodney Street down and they made the highway. That was the BQE. And my parents right away bought a house on Ros Street. Just to give you a little background, I was born in the years when unfortunately the Jewish people came back from the Holocaust. Until then, the Williamsburg area had loads of Jews, a lot of litfish. The Tarvadas was there. The Base Yakov was there. Rabbi New House had the B Yakov. They had beards. Rabbi New House and I think there was a Rabbi Burman. They were very from and the Yeshiva Tarbadas. Now all the people unfortunately the survivors were coming back from the Holocaust and immediately they started filling all the houses. Every neighbor, every street, every corner of our block, Ross Street, was filled neb with these new survivors. And they did not think we were Jewish. My mother didn't wear a shaitel. My father didn't have a beard. Of course, he had a yarmaka. Um maybe we weren't as sneious as, you know, as they were, but they thought we were going and they totally ignored us. And I can't blame them. I really can't blame them. They wouldn't play with me. I knew no Yiddish honestly. Now these girls, they didn't have right away a base Yakov. So the Rebes that brought them to Williamsburg put them right away into Bay Yakov because they felt the the rabbi the principles all had beards. They were very from Rabbi New House should rest in peace and Rabbi Burman. And you had all these young kids that Nebuch came from Hungary, a lot of them. It was the Hungarian a lot. And they they thought I was a guy because they saw my mother coming without a shaitle to pick me up. >> For how long did that last? They thought you were gay. >> It lasted me long. >> We're talking about it 70 years later. >> Now I had asthma at that time. I was born with a very early childhood case of asthma. There were n there was no aluterol. There was no absolutely no inhalers in those days. My doctor did the best he could for me. He put me on codine cough medicine. And what it did is it made me very sluggish. I was always dopey if you really want to know. And I was eating and I was the fattest little girl that you could have ever seen. And I knew absolutely no Yiddish. But I knew one big sentence that I was told by the kids in Bakov. Cook off the grub maid. >> Oh, >> and that was the very that was the very first >> look at that >> sentence that I learned. >> Heavy gentile girl. >> Yes. Yes. And they would go to my brother. My brother Boryama. He went to Turvadas. Now Turvdas theidum would not put their kids in. As soon as they came to America, they opened up their own yeshivas because turvidas rebies did not have beards that they would not put their sons into. They were litfish. I could tell you names of the turvidas people, the bell skis, the book spams, the they lived across the street from us, very from litfish, the real litfish people. But they would go to my brother aunt shis and say come in so you could turn on a light. My brother used to say what are you joking me? What am I a guy? They did not know better. The satma and the other grebies were so worried that they're going to come to America and they're going to start to assimilate and they did not trust the people the American. So you never spoke to the your neighbors in Williamsburg ever? >> Very little interaction. Nothing. If they needed a jerk to turn the rope and not get a chance to jump in, THEY WOULD SAY, "OH, COME, you'll turn the rope." >> What rope? >> Jump rope. >> The jump rope. >> I'm playing jump rope. >> But uh that was the No one wanted to be the one to just turn the rope. So I was >> So you were qualified for that? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Not much more. >> But you know something? I I can understand what they went through. They just came to America. They had no bubbies. They had no zadies. I once went to school one day on Sunday was a half a day and I told some of the kids, whoever would talk to me, that is that I'm going to my bubby's house. And they all looked at me in a state of shock. You have a bubby? And I would say, yeah, I have a zade also. You have a Bubby and a Z. They were all killed. >> You're Hungarian. They were all wiped out. >> But they they had no Bubby. They had no Zadi. They looked at me with such I see where they were coming from. This the the Sherebas were so worried that they should not assimilate. >> Like many thousands. >> But the miracle the good the happy ending to the whole story is you got out of that school pretty quick. >> Yes. Barak Hashem, my father opened up. He had a store on the lower east side which my book will give you all the unbelievable >> very successful store >> very successful. My Zeta could not manage supporting his family on buttons and towels. So what did he do? He knew how to make schlivits in a extra bathroom in one of his apartments. >> It's a it's a it's a plum sunshine >> a plum alcohol they made in the mikvah >> Hungarian >> during prohibition. It was illegal. >> It was totally illegal. And my Zeta had an unbelievable recipe. And my father and my my father, none of his brothers wanted anything to do with they were scared out of their prohibition. You went to jail for 10 years. You There was a mikvah in Williamsburg that filled up their whole mikvah with with with um stuff with booze. And he went to jail for five or ten years. But my zeta had 10 kids. They had arim galore coming to their funded by the illegal house. >> Funded all by the illegal booze. >> Yeah. Well, otherwise they would have not lived. >> Let me tell you a story. My bubby never threw never never refused a a shoppers guest. They barely had what to eat. My Bubby took in Shopeest guests. Every single Shoppers. There was a guy, he must have weighed 500 pounds. He was a peddler with a horse and wagon from I don't think he had a family. And he would travel around and come once a month. He'd land on the east side. >> Didn't he to take Zady's bed? >> He took my father and all his brother's bed. They had one big traumatized >> and he would come for Shabas. And I don't know what they fed him because the guy had a great appetite. He must have been four or 500 pounds. But my Bobby took him in, took the boys out of the room and said our guest reb whatever is getting the room. And every couple of weeks Rev whatever would come and he would get up in the morning and go to shu with my all doin and rub my Feinstein's shaw. >> Reverson your what's your current occupation? >> You have to hear the end of the story. The end of the story one shop is this morning. My bubby saw all the boys get up and go to shul. And this guy used to get up like clockwork. He never got up. And my bubby was was not going to knock on his door. She she you know she was embarrassed to she stood there and waited till the boys came home from shul. He died in his sleep. And my bubba not only had to bury him. They did not know his family. They didn't know if he had any family. They not only had to bury him, they couldn't get him out the door. They had >> narrow narrow steps 500 pounds. >> He a person swell. >> They had to break open their windows and get a piano mover to take the body out from the window and and lower it to the street. But not only that, they had he was Mayitzvah. My bubby took her jewelry. She had a diamond ring. She had a a bracelet or watch and they had a pocket and and and bury him. That's what you call machnes. You feed them until they die. You sleep them and you bury them and he and they did it. That's a bigus >> represent. What's your current occupation? >> I'm a family nurse practitioner. >> Got you. You went to nursing school. >> I went to nursing school. It's all you got to read my book. It was we understand it. Miraculous. I never paid a dime. I at a >> What age did you go to What age did you go to uh nursing school? >> 38 years old. >> You were 38. You had kids already? >> Six kids. >> Six kids. You started nursing school. >> My husband was a sofair. >> Still is. >> And he still is. And he was thrilled. It was just got a braha from the Reb. I started winning scholarships out of the clear blue sky. I lost my job one day. I >> You have to say the story of how you lost your job. >> Okay. Oh, before nursing school. >> Yeah, she worked as a few hours a day. >> Uh, I worked as a medical secretary in brain research in downstate medical center and I worked for a Jewish neuropathologist and I was very dedicated to her. She never had a decent secretary. The secretary before me was a drug addict. >> You used to walk used to walk to work to work. It was a >> So you went to nursing school at 38 years old? >> Yes. But wait, how how did I get there? She got Yennea. I was her devoted secretary for years. She did major research on the brain. She wrote books about AIDS to the brain. AIDS came out at that time. And she was a brilliant woman. And I always was there for her to help her get her work done. And she got the enam very badly. She had a prognosis of like four years. And I right away went to the Reb and I got a bra for her and she actually existed with her stage three or four Yamaha. She lived for 17 years. And the only reason she was able to do further brain research was because I used to take care of her. If she ever felt sick, I would make her lay down. I would do all her work. Look, I wasn't a brain research doctor, but she was the only neuropathologist in Brooklyn. We used to get brain biopsies from every hospital in Brooklyn because there were no other neuropathologists. Her name was Joanna Shure. And what happened was she was dying. Her husband gave up on her. Her kids already gave up on her. The last few days she was in the hospital. I was her only visitor. My husband used to walk on Shoppers with my brother because she was alone. Her husband already gave up on her. He didn't even visit her anymore. And once, it's sad. And once she died, I right away had a feeling he was going to cremate her. And I called up the husband and I said, "Please, I know you want to cremate her." She want He wanted her body to go to science and then they'd cremate her. I said, "Please don't cremate." Oh, it's so nice of you to put your business into it, like mind your own business. I called him up again and I said, "Please don't cremate her. I will pay for the funeral. I'll even buy a spot for you in 120 years." I was serious. I would have beg, borrowed, and steal stole for that. And he said to me, "Mind your own business." And he hung up on me. And I gave one more call and I said, "Dr. Sher, Hitler burnt you. Don't burn your wife's body." And he had me fired. And miraculously, I already knew I wanted to go to nursing school. When I was fired, I was I was part of a very fancy union. I was considered like an assistant to her research and it was called UUP, United Universities Professionals. They called me up a week after I got my PIN card that I'm I'm being fired. They said, >> "Did they say the reason why you were fired?" >> They knew. They said to me, "You know, you're a member of my union. Do you want to go to school? We want to better you. Our union will put you through school." I said, "Yes, I want to get into nursing school." >> Pro Union. >> No comments. >> I They came to me and said, "Do you want to go to school?" I said, "Yes, I'm hoping to get into nursing school. will pay for it. They not only paid for it, they helped me get in. I got into down state. I was doing my prerequisites already. So, I was almost finished with it. And they gave me not only free tuition for three, it was like two or three years. I wound up getting my ma my bachelor's with my RN degree allin one. And then they they literally funded they gave me money for babysitting. They gave me carfare money. They gave me all my equipment, my books. You know what the books cost every term? Unbelievable. All paid for. >> Wait. Then I got out and I became a NICU nurse. I couldn't get a job as a nurse. No one was hiring a new nurse because I was fired from down state. I went over to the union and I said, "Hey, aren't isn't >> isn't it their responsibility to hire me again?" Because they fired me. They said, "You know, you're right. You once worked for down state. You were fired. >> They had to give me the first available job. I have friends that did not get in any jobs after they graduated nursing. They went right for their masters because they couldn't get a job as a nurse. So I was >> But they gave you the night shift for years. You worked the night shift. >> You get the night Yes, you do get more money the night shift. It was crazy. So for many years, >> how do you juggle how many kids you have at the time? >> My husband was He's a Malik. My husband helped me hand and foot with the kids. He deserved a degree, not me. And he loved being home with the kids. But wait, then I finished. Wait, I finished. >> I did some years as a NICU nurse. All of a sudden, I get a call. I I wanted to get my masters and become an FN, a family nurse practitioner in Downstate since it's such a great location. I get a call from downstate saying you qualify for a full master's degree scholarship. Okay. >> So I said why? >> They said because you worked in downstate state and city nurses qualify. I said but two years ago I left down state. I'm working in Brooklyn hospital. I don't qualify. NO BUT WE HAVE YOU DOWN THAT YOU QUALIFY. SO, three years of my master's degree was totally paid for with my book fee, with my >> And this is all from being thrown out for sticking your nose. >> Being fired for trying to >> How many pages in your book? >> I think don't know. It's about 150 >> available on Amazon. >> It's going to be >> Does your personality shoot out like it does on the podcast? >> Yes, it's going to be I'm not making money on it. I just want people to read these miraculous things that my family has gone through and some of the things that we've gone through were miraculous. >> Does everyone have miracles and you only happen to notice them and accentuate them? >> I think everybody can write a book. Everybody if you sit down first of all I loved writing. I had really a good education in writing. I was the only one in the school. I went to Esther Shfield the >> Say the story. You left the bullying school with the smers and then you went on to a normal school in the lower east side. >> Yes. Yes. >> So you went every day from Williamsburg to the lower east side. When the lower east side shown felacov there you showed you were able to shine. >> Yes. I left Bakov as the gaugo >> and I walked in the mic >> as the sadakus of Esther Shfeld >> which was on of the lower east side. >> Normal girls there. Nice. >> The girls there. >> Are you saying see these girls are not normal? >> I didn't say anything. girls were the American Jewish people. Unfortunately, they >> How did you get to school? The bus. You walked over the bridge. >> I No, we had buses. My father would take me in the morning cuz he had a a store on Allen and Broom Street, Dry Goods. It was like a Bed Bath and Beyond, low overhead, very low overhead. He would drop me off at the school. My mother would receive a snfish would get on the two buses and come and get me. By the time I was already in the fifth grade, we came home and went ourselves. >> Can you be able to walk over the bridge and be there or No, >> you could have. And we didn't. We had the 39. We had the Norin going to the 39 on Bridge Plaza and then right over the bridge. But I want you to know that we have another story in my book which is >> Hold on. If you say all the stories, no one's going to buy. >> No, no, no. But just one miraculous thing is that my husband and I were married and we didn't have children for six years. And we were really getting concerned, very concerned. And >> this is before they had good treatments 50 years. >> There was no in vitro in those days. There was really nothing. And I got I mean I went to major specialists after we were married two three years. We went to a major specialist and he um did all the major tests and we went back and he said, "You can't have children. There's this and this problem. There's no cure for it and you're not going to have kids." >> And there was no bonolum. >> No, no bonolum, no in vitro. There was nothing. And my husband and I were like shocked to be really truthful. Very shocked. And that time I had a very close friend a bit sad in Crown Heights. She started the women's and she started it in Crown Heights and I was a very close friend with her and she had me come to some of the meetings and we learned the because Labavich has different minhog invadisha that a lot of otherish don't have people that bury Jewish people. Rabbi Katisha is the beauty of having respect and taking care of a body. Women do the women and men do the men in such a beautiful way. But my girlfriend called me up. It was the Fourth of July weekend. I just got the doctor's verdict that we're not having kids. >> Three years after you got married, >> around four years after you got married and I get this verdict and my girlfriend calls me up and she says, "Supor, it's July 4th weekend. We're doing our first Tara. We have a woman, a very big Labbavich woman. Her husband was a big RV in Labavich and we have we need a lot of people and everyone went to the country for the 4th of July and we must have you. You learned the halas. You'll come with us. We'll show you what to do. It's a lot of lifting. It's a lot of >> And I said, Rendle, I said, I am afraid of a dead body. I I will never sleep for as long as I live with the lights off at night. I said, 'I just can't see myself.' She said, Zapora, we're counting on you. Then I said to myself, Hashem just gave us this verdict that we're not having kids. I said, I have to do every mitzvah I can to be Zoha that we should have children. Yeah, I would have adopted. I love kids. I don't think I would have ever let that happen to me. But I said, okay. I said, Randall, but you're going to have to do two TAS that day. She says, why? I said, "Because afterwards you're gonna have to do me because I'm gonna drop dead, right?" But the truth of the matter was I never slept better after it. It you feel like Hashem himself, his in the room with you. The love, even now, >> even now, even now, you still do it. It is I try to it's become a very hard thing to do. They have it on a nap now. And if you don't quickly say me, me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me everyone else they fight over it. It's such a >> It became cool. >> It Yeah. Cool. But I want you to know I came home and I said to my husband, you feel the a in the room with you. Everyone lines up before the tarot. >> So how come P never join? >> You never uncover the body because you have to give such love and respect. You just quickly lift up something, wash the person. You never never stare at the mace. You you hold them like you're holding a newborn baby. If we're ever lifting or touching the person, someone will right away cradle the person's neck so that the neck shouldn't fall back. You use warm water so that the water shouldn't be cold or too hot like the person is still alive. And I want to tell you, we all go before and after. We all stand by the mace covered with covered and we all say our mother's name and our our mother's name my name and my mother's name and you all bet ma two times >> from random strangers >> from from from if I embarrassed you if I embarrassed the maze please forgive me and I did it twice but I snuck in a couple of words extra I said I'm helping bring your nishama up there could you send me down a couple of nishamas down here. I'm not joking. I got home. I slept like a baby that night. I did not need the lights on. I was addicted. It's an addiction. When you do mitzvah, it brings on more mitzvah and more love. I came home that night. Two days later, the doctor calls me up, which I can cannot tell you the shock. He said, "Mrs. Clapman, I just read the journal on fertility. There's a doctor in Manhattan, two Jewish doctors that are working on your problem and they have a 40 to 50% success rate with a new method. I said, "Give me his telephone number." Within a week, we got our first appointment and it was up all the way. We needed a procedure. We came out of it within a year. Before a year I was pregnant already. >> So I tell everybody >> six BI and her six kids and I tell all I told all my friends Clever Cadisha is a really good schooler for having children. >> You have to jump on the app quick. You have to jump on the app quick. >> Yes. Yes. This is Yes. You have to jump on the app. >> WhatsApp or a real app? >> It's a real app. Not a WhatsApp. >> Crown Heights women's clever cadisha. But it's everything is an app. Now you know I started the Crown Heights women's house. >> I do not I do not know >> and this is in my book where I loved Bolum. I had a very my bubby got very sick after my Zeta died. >> Colum was an organization that helps >> helps with the sick and the ill and everything to facilitate recovery. Baby sitters, cooking for the family, transportation. >> What's the budget for Khole in a year? They make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. But let me just tell you, >> it's a budget. What do you usually spend? >> I honestly >> You stepped aside. No, >> I Okay. >> After about 50 years, she gave it up. >> We raised many thousands of dollars. But let me tell you the story. I always was active in Beakm. My bubby was sick and I got a taste of Beholm because my bubby was put in a nursing home. She had a very severe pneumonia and they wouldn't let her home yet. And I started going to visit my bubby in the nursing home. And in the nursing home, I saw there was two kosher floors and these people had no one visiting them. It used to hurt my heart. And my me and my mother, my mother is a real was it Sadakus. We used to go visiting all the elderly people in that nursing home in the Lower East Side right near >> the Alisa. No, >> no, it was called >> I can't remember. No, it was right near um Beth Israel Hospital >> and they had two kosher floors. >> I got together purum time, me and my girlfriends from school. We made a committee on our own. I did it in high school. I became the president of the bikum society. And every purum, we collected money. We would go shopping. We would bake all the things without sugar because so many of the people were diabetic. We would bring fruits. We would collect money and buy the SDI Israeli sugar-free candies. I baked my own humans hashin so it would be sugar-free and put in the saccharine. >> Where does Clappy get his strong opinions from? You or your husband? >> Oh. Oh, my husband has a very strong opinion more than you. But I'm being honest with you. I got married. There was no Beaker Holm official Beaker Holm in Crown Heights. And I was married already a year. I went into the Reb and I told the Rebba, Rebba, you know, during and you know, they used to want you in and out in three seconds. >> Boom, boom, boom. >> And I got in and I just said, "Rebum. I've always done it in high school. Can you give me some?" The Reb was his eyes lit up in Yehidis. He started giving me names of all the people that have interest in Beakum which was my partner Phyllis Mintz from the famous Mintz family. My um he told me about Rabbi Schclar. He had a men's division but what they did is they made him a love of mala once or twice a year collected a lot of money and he would give Mrs. Mintz the money whenever she had major little things that she knew about. And the rebbit told me get in touch with Rabbi Schclaw. Get in touch with Phil. >> The mint the mint ASK IS MULTIGENERATIONAL. >> OH, we had believei and her within a year we had our first tea party. Phyllis and I became the president and then we had many many more presidents that gave of themselves. It was a day and night thing. Now let me tell you, I became a nurse practitioner. Phyllis and I got older. Phyllis is now the head of the community council's family crisis unit. She's older than me. She will never retire and she does unbelievable things. >> Where do you think JMI got the energy from? >> You cannot imagine what Phyllis Mins does. >> This is her second shout out. Merboskin did a major shout out and here we go again. >> She is unbelievable and we're like sisters. But I want you to know that she and I got to a point I said, you know, I became already a nurse practitioner. I was already seeing people in our basement almost free. I told all the schlookim, your kid gets sick, they didn't have any insurance. I used to see kids for 15. I remember I came to >> 15 or $20 to see a person >> after a whole day at the office. >> At a whole day at the office, I used to see >> What's the message of your book? What what what message do you want people to walk away with when they read your book? >> I want everyone to know that share your family's heritage, all their miracles. Everyone has miracles that they can share. Number two, >> when you say miracles, you mean they should appreciate what they have. >> No. And share all the beautiful miracles. Look at the miracles. Look at the things that I've seen from me from from my father. How he didn't get put on that ship to to Japan. I mean would none of me and you would not be sitting here then share and everyone should know I don't care if you go to Argentina if you go to the Fiji islands if you go to Thailand we are all the reblim we areim everywhere you go every job you have you have to make a kdish hashem I worked in hospitals I worked with non-Jews I showed love to everyone I gave compassion to everyone. >> You still practice? >> What? >> You still practice? >> I'm in practice, but now I work with a totally f clientele, which I love. I work in Park here, Brooklyn. I do some work for Dr. Plout on Kingston Avenue. I I love >> Do you recommend the healthc care the medical field? >> Oh, unless AI will take it over probably one day. Ma, say the story about the school-based clinic where you saved that kid that dropped on the basketball court. >> I had a kid. >> Hold on. In your kids. >> What? None of my kids medicine? >> My daughter Dvaua is now be just became a doula. There you go. >> And she's going to really do well cuz she's like me. She's full of love. She's a >> she did during CO. Nobody would do CO and my daughter ran around. All my kids are wonderful. That I could tell you. All of them. All of them. I don't have favorites. >> Stop it. >> Stop it. Ma, you told me I'm your favorite. >> But another thing, you don't have to go to the Fiji Islands. You don't have to go on in the Bahamas. Every person is a if you wash floors or if you whatever you do, you can make a kid. >> What's she saying about that story? >> The students in the you for many years, you did schoolbased clinics. Okay. I got to school 7:00 in the morning. Um, >> what is this? 5 years ago? >> No, it was like two years ago. I got to school 7 in the morning to do my notes and the Jewish, we had a Jewish coach. >> He comes running over to me saying, >> I don't know what happened. A kid was running around the gym. He wanted to join the um track the track team. It was the first day of school. We didn't even know his history. And he laid down on the floor dead in the gym. And I just jumped. I had my stethoscope around my neck and I I didn't know what to bring, but I just ran up to the gym. It was one flight up. And I saw him literally dead on the floor. He was a 14-year-old black boy. I jumped on top of him, saw he wasn't breathing, started doing one man's CPR. I didn't look for a face mask. I looked for nothing. I jumped on top of his face and I did the compressions and I kept breathing into him. The the um the Jewish um coach, he came down and he helped me do twoman CPR. Someone already called 911. They came and they were very angry with me and they said, "Why didn't you grab the AED from the case on the top of the gym?" The shocking the defibrillator. I was just so I saw he wasn't breathing. And for those few minutes, I was breathing into him. They immediately came, took me and the coach away, and they right away used the AED. They right away got his heart back and they were already burying me. They already called my boss. They're very anti-semitic. This was right after October 7th. They already had a, you know, they already were trying to make everything the Jews fault. And I got upstairs. I thought I was going to collapse. They, thank God, intubated him. They got his heart rate back and they rushed him to the hospital. And they were already telling my boss, the head CEO of my clinic that hires me, that I didn't do things right and I didn't pull down the >> No good deed goes unpunished. >> No good deed goes unpunished. And I they already were preparing me for a lawsuit. They said, you know, if anything happens to to His name was Ari. Isn't that funny? He had a a Jewish sounding name, Ari. And he they said to me, "If anything happens, they're already looking to bury you." And I went home. It was I think it was ever Russia Shunner the next day. And I got back to school. He not only woke up, they immediately had to put a defibrillator in him. They saw that he had very bad heart. His heart rate was not normal. They instilled for the rest of his life a defibrillator into him. So it'll always shock his heart. He came back to school six months later, but I already was told within two or three weeks he woke up. He had no brain damage, no memory loss. He is perfect. He came back to school and he was already ready to go back on the track team with the permission of his um heart doctors. >> Look at that. >> Totally saved. >> Thank you. I didn't I don't need them to thank me. I want Hashem to to it's I made a Kesh Hashem. I want people to know that we yidden love all Hashem's creations. And that's how I treated all my patients. >> How do we how do what's the secret to raising such talented accomplished kids like you do? What's the secret? People want to know. Your son's such a star. >> You know something? I attribute it to all the good deeds that my parents did and my grandparents did >> and how everything you get back thousands of generations of the goodness that your parents did and grandparents and I definitely attributed to that. >> What do people know you about your writings? What's people's first thing when they say you're writing in? What's usually what comes to mind? What's generally the feedback? They they mostly like it. They like the stories. They like the history. I go into a lot of history of the Jewish people on the Lower East Side way back when >> when Zadei was young. Is that accurate? You know the tape when Zadi was young? >> Yeah. >> From you know you're familiar with that? >> I remember it. Yeah. Yeah. >> Is it accurate? >> I think so. What what's what what hits personally my favorite children's story tape >> is what >> is when JD was young at the lower east side >> um the push carts the miraffish not to work on shabas it was unbelievable where people literally did everything they could and unfortunately a lot didn't a lot fell to working on shop >> black you couldn't have found like me or no >> he's not alive I'm No, he's not live. >> I think his tapes are popular. >> You're not as fan. You never grew You didn't grow up in him. >> I I think we've heard. >> No comment. >> My father went to yeshiva with him. >> Didn't Okay. I'm sorry. >> He's still talented. >> He's He's not alive, but he's a He did a lot of good nice books and tapes for kids. No. >> And he was an artist, too. I still I think >> you knew he was an artist. >> Okay. He's he has some beef here. Okay. Off camera. Anyway, as I'm going back, everybody >> represent what's different in Crown Heights today and when you when you moved there. The top three differences. >> M when you moved to Crown Heights 55 years ago, you said that there was a handful of amateurs and you knew them all. >> Yeah, we knew everyone. The sist was two pages >> was a couple of pages. >> It was unbelievable. I used to call up when we started our beacum. We started with tea parties in order to start raising money. We had a Chinese auction. We had women that were so dynamic. >> Hold on one second. All these billions of dollars that these Chinese auctions are making all day long, you were the first person. >> No, we knew they were Chinese. >> No, no, no. When you made Chinese auctions in the early '7s, there was no 10 yards. There was no KCVC, >> right? >> You were the There was no Yeshiva. You were the first one that brought Chinese auctions to kind of >> Oh, you don't want to take the credits. >> Yeah, I don't remember. >> My mother was the first. You're all late decades later. You could do all the armories. My mother started with the was TWO PAGES. >> LET ME JUST SAY IT THE WAY IT IS. >> Let me just end off by saying the pot this is 15 years 10 or 15 years of my articles. I'm still writing five articles a year for the niche. I hope to have a second sequel of my book. >> Many people tell me they read your article and they toss it. They read your article after that magazine. >> No, they that you're the people buy it because of you and I don't think so. >> Only thing worth reading. But I just want to >> So what's the Hold on. Who ending off? Hold on. Were we? Uh TJ, how long we in? >> Okay. Oh, we're just getting started. >> Uh Rabbitson, can you give us three main differences of Cran Heights of yesterday when you moved in and today? Give us top three. You said it's Give us two more. >> Okay. You >> So the younger generations could understand. >> You knew everybody. >> Okay. >> Pretty much. So >> your son knows most of Crown Heights. So Okay. Um there were less people to take in the guests of course >> so we were all very involved every >> you had a story that you and Tati used to you were first married you're both not from Crown Heights you had so many every single shabas that sometimes more and more people show up that you guys wouldn't eat because then you wouldn't be >> my husband and I made believe we weren't hungry because there were nights Friday nights first of all we had a couple of litfish that lived in our apartment building. They used to hang out of the window to see how many bakarim were showing up to our shabas table. It was beautiful. We had the original hadah tora boys. It was beautiful. We have so much nis. >> How did you meet your how did you meet your husband? >> Through a very close friend of mine, Ashhatrin, who was close to the zerkurans. She was a cousin of the zerikans. Rabbi Zurkin made the >> Rabbi Zurkin made our shashm. We owe him a lot of gratitude and we're still close with the Zurkens to this day. Yes. Yes. >> So anyway, I want to just say one more thing that >> I don't want to end off. We have a couple more minutes. >> No, but I just want to tell you that Beer Holm, my friend and I, we decided I became a nurse practitioner. I was working full-time at that point. I did not have the time that I wanted to give into column and Phyllis started to work for the crown council for family crisis. We decided we loved beer column so much we wanted to give the baby over. Now there are organizations where people don't want to get rid of their baby. They'll let it rot but they don't want someone else to take it off their hands. and Phyllis and I, we said, "Bind the most capable, the the the most dynamic young blood. We're ala we're old blood already. We're not going to do the things that these young people could do." And I cannot begin to tell you what is being done for our big column. Now, we have tea parties once a year, like a big breakfast. People get up, they literally take care of families that come from overseas. Kabad or Crown Heights is they literally we have now an apartment called Hadas's place. One of the bikim families lost a child and they put in a beautiful apartment for people to come to when they're going. Yes. >> Christian Bubic family do an amazing jobing job. Pinson Esther Blau is one of the top people in the Bolm and I want you to know that there are apps galore. People are running. We have a cooking committee. We have a caterer now that every time he caters he makes extra dinners. We can >> How do I get some of those dinners? >> Yeah. We have cup families that are in crisis. >> They bring food to them. We have people that store it in their freezers. They deliver it. We have for the Kimpeton, we have meals. Now, when I say meals, >> they look literally out of a a boutique restaurant >> with bows and ribbons on it and and you can't. >> Yes. >> Um, as your I would say you're one of your most well-known things you're writing in the Kabad. Give us a young writer three tips how to become in an interesting writer. Give us some tips. >> My mother's also an artist. She could paint oil on canvas. We never sold her paintings yet. Top artist. >> Let's f get the writing. Give us some a few tips how to become a good writer. >> Honestly, I don't know. I sit down. I have an hour. I'm sitting at the clinic. I do urgies care >> and sometimes I work some of the shifts. I do if I have to, I'll do the 11 o'clock night shift. Wow. >> From 5 to 11. And I could have sometimes a half an hour. I just sit down on my computer and I just say it just comes to me some memory in my life in my childhood. >> I don't know if the Aishta is putting these things in my head. I don't want >> I just noticed your only public figure asking child, right? Am I wrong? >> I don't know. Is that >> your other kids? I mean, >> I don't Yeah, I'm just Hey, I just Hey, I'm just >> It could be I would get in trouble, but I just I'm noticing the >> the the link of you. >> You know what? >> Public figure media asking and then I see a carbon pack copy president of the best >> famous social media celebrity just keeps on. I'm just seeing a I don't know if there's right. >> I'm just Hey, I'm just as outside observer. >> Yes. But I just want to tell you that if you I'm a very passionate person, >> right? And I have things that all of a sudden go through my mind. Memories are things that have happened in my life and I just have to share it. So in a way I'm not like swilling. I'm not podcasting it. I'm writing it. >> Different format >> and I love doing >> expression. It's the same >> but I don't even plan what I'm going to write. I my my my editor Rishi D is the editor of the Nishay newsletter for years and years. I'll get a warning call from her. Sapara, next week is the deadline. What did you write? And I'll say, "Oh my gosh, I don't even have a clue." >> They pay you or volunteer. Do you get a free subscription? >> Yeah, that's that's it. I don't do it for money. I do it out of love and I literally will sit down one night in my urgy care and all or in my school clinic job when I had a half hour free and it just flows out of me. >> We're 12 podcasts in. What's the feedback on your son's performance? Did you get any feedback from people around or No, >> I don't look for feedback. I know people like what I write. No. And I >> Your son, do you get any feedback on the podcast? Yes. >> Please share some feedback. >> They love him. They love him. >> Please be specific. >> Everybody that I work with says, "Is Clappy your son?" I see Clappy and Frank podcast. Kosha Money he was on. Yeah. Yeah. They give you feedback. >> Yeah. It's nice. It's very nice. I'm very proud of him. I want him to have a good hashbah. The two of you on Yadishkite. Everything the two of you do should have a great great influence on Yiddishkite. And you're doing that. You're spreading it out to the world. There are non-Jews that >> I also report News Night to Children. >> I know. Which is great. >> All the loop loop. Yeah, of course. >> Hold on. On that topic, won't you send your when did your first voice note go viral? How many years ago? >> The first voice note that ever went viral was the day Trump went down the escalator. It was at June 15th 16th, 2015 or 16 when he came down the escalator. I turned my phone around like an iPhone 2 or something. >> Audio. >> A video. Audio. Video audio. >> No, that was both. And I started saying everybody has to be behind Trump. There was not a single person in the world that did it viral. Viral. Super viral. >> What was that like your first clip going viral? Was it aha moment? Were you? Were you surprised? Were you like, what was that experience like? >> I put it out. I living on Empire Boulevard maybe three. It was my off day that I used to be off on Tuesdays. >> Yeah. >> It was Look back. It was a Thursday or Tuesday, my day off when he went down the escalator. I watched the press conference. I got rallied up. I turned my phone around. I figured out selfie mode, >> sent it to a few friends. It went viral around the world >> and only >> was it aha moment? I'll tell you what the aha moment was is that I walked down the street and every single person that I saw said, "I saw it and I you're like, "Oh my god, you're natural at this." So, >> but why did it take nine years for you to I never thought anybody would wanted to hear anything I had to say? I don't know. >> Even though that went viral, didn't it didn't give you the the message. You didn't get the you didn't get the the memo. >> No. After that, I started getting more confidence. That's when I started ranting and sending voice notes. That's when I realized people actually in the beginning I was scared to hear my voice. I wasn't comfortable hearing the sound of my voice. You did you ever have that the first time? >> Yes, definitely. >> So, you you have to first >> My first eight months of ex everyday people I'm not in the videos. I'm only in the back. you just see the people. >> Anybody in the world watching, the first time you start seeing yourself or hearing yourself on camera, you're going to think you sound funny. And it's going to take a very long time until it resonates with you that it's natural. >> But it took nine years to monetize your your personality talent. Yes. >> A lot a lot of my success in Judeaica art podcasting is all thanks to a good friend of mine, Mushy Frank. >> Who's that? >> Who who's he believed in me. You were the first guy that really believed in me. So it but nine years later you from that viral video nine years ago it took an it's crazy but it really started from front of front of 770 >> with the ex everyday people >> everyday people >> those those videos with the donut got video got 20 million views >> crazy >> okay here's the the lady that started all I finally see the direct correlation theos the creativity the art >> the book the book the book was published we got it back and it has a bunch of mistakes we're repub we're printing it again >> and we're going to have links coming up on how to buy the book. It's going to be a huge hit. >> Maybe you should do like a weekly. >> Ma, do you want to I think you should start going on a speaking. >> Hold on. Yeah, like LA. >> I told you we have to go. >> I don't think I have the time. >> We'll find the time. People that pay $6,500. >> But you have you done any podcast or your first one? Never. First ever. >> I've never done a podcast. >> Wow. >> But >> what was the first speech you made until you >> Oh, in school. How old were you? >> Speeches in high school. >> High school is the first time they said they put you up. I had an English teacher in my basement school. >> Yeah. >> Who was the only teacher I had that actually had a PhD. >> Uhhuh. >> And they had it worked out that they had other teachers teach teaching the English language. But somehow every year my class had this woman, Mrs. Gold Fob, her name was. She was a PhD in English and she loved >> That's what happens when you have a PhD in English. loved to teach us creative writing and she didn't want us she wanted us to get up in front of the audience and talk. That's how we did our lessons. She would give us things to write on and then we had to get up and present it. And it really had an impact. I love I like talking. I feel comfortable. >> I used to get an F in everything in school. The only ever got a ever I can remember was I wrote an essay. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then after that my LinkedIn writings end. >> But I had her four years in a row and I used to get up. I used to do comedy acts. At one time she gave us a choice. >> This sounds like a >> I would get up. >> Got to go on the road. >> And I had friends I had friends to said to me to please do it long so I don't get called on. I'm petrified. You know how >> long does not seem to be your problem. Public speaking is very frightening. Most people say they are petrified of getting up in front. I have gotten up in front of audiences for medical conventions talking about cultural sensitivity with the orthodox Jewish patient. I've gone to many Larry Spac is her family. Larry is my father cousin cousin. Yes. He sounds like you're related to you and not your husband. >> Anyway, to our sponsors, Clappy, the meat, CH Butcher, >> the CH Butcher meat is fantastic. The restaurant's fantastic. Everything, all our Shabas meets from CH Butcher. >> Everything roasts, >> um, lamb chops, chicken, everything is delicious. >> And our painting. Can we talk about our painting? >> So, now we have another painting that me and Mishi are selling in partnership. >> In partnership. Yeah. >> And anybody that calls either me, we split the profits. What do we have here today, Mishi? We have a Israeli soldier davining in his uniform. >> It's a on canvas. I'm going to say >> see that's filling. It's filling. >> I'm not sure the medium a local crowns artist >> beautiful painting you know October 7th all this stuff. It's a beautiful painting. It's not that big so it can fit anywhere. Papy. How do you sell a big painting? How do you sell a small thing? A big painting you say it covers the whole wall. Right. >> Well first of all the pitch is is that depends where you're going to place it. There you go. >> Are you trying to have something intimate in a small dining room or in a big room entertainment room? You need something big. Another corporate sponsor tonight is my favorite PES program that I go to every single year. Clappy will be an FFH pes job title there. >> I'm the gaba. I'm the MC. I make sure everybody's happy. >> You do a standup routine. >> We're going to do everything. It's only two hours from Brooklyn. >> What about our show? Have art show. >> We're going to do everything. >> Everything. >> Anyways, we're only around two and a half hours from Brooklyn. 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My parents are not. >> No. >> You don't go to PE hotels? >> No, we don't. >> Why not? My husband and I like to go to family. >> Family enjoy. >> No, no, no. FFH is my family. >> Thank you so much. And please, please, please subscribe, comment, like. It doesn't cost a penny. >> Share with all your friends. >> And it helps us a lot. >> Mhm. >> All right. >> Yeah, for sure. >> And I also want to thank a uh Theorist Studio. Great studio. >> Great studio. This is our second studio we went to. >> Second studio. Nice people, TJ and Asher. They treat you like gold. Um and uh great snacks in the studio. I would feel very >> Fiji water. Fiji water. >> Never felt so wealthy. Fiji water. Beautiful flower on the bottle. >> Fiji water. And uh it's Man, so like you get to feel rich. I feel rich >> until I have to pay the invoice. >> Thank you again, Ma, for coming on the show. We love having you. >> Thanks, Rabbitson. Come back. >> Pleasure. >> And it just people should see where all the talent comes from. >> I don't want to make sure I'm biased. My father's invited on the show. We just have to figure out a schedule when he's going to come. >> One at a time. My sister came. You know what's funny? All the ladies that came in the show are all family members. Is that a policy here or just that's what happened? >> No, there's no policies. >> No policy. There's some policies. >> There's no policies. >> No policies in the show. Anything goes. >> Anything goes. Okay.