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Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 11 by R' Eli Stefansky
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Reb Moishe, I have an exciting sugiyah
today. Very gishmak.
We constantly talk about the concept of
rov, rov.
There's
halacha rov, there's bitul b'rov,
there's ruba d'rubin, there's all types
of rov.
But where's the source? The source is in
Chullin daf yud alef.
It's actually in the Torah. Torah tells
us the possuk, but
there's a rov that's not really in the
Torah that we have to figure out.
The Gemara says,
minayin milsei d'Rabbanan zil basar
ruba? Where do we know when Rabbanan say
they should go with the majority, the
rov, the majority? You always go with
the majority.
Bitul b'rov, everybody knows bitul b'rov
because it's a great heter. You got some
food and it fell out, bitul b'rov.
Rabbanan say that use rov.
Min alan, what do you mean min alan?
D'chsiv acharei rabim l'hatos, there's
three words in the possuk tell you that
you always go with the majority.
Says the Gemara, "Oh, no. Ruba d'isqa
amon.
K'go in tisha chanuyos b'sanhedrin.
There's simple ones. This is a rov
that's in front of you.
But I want to tell you better than in
front of you. The idea of ruba d'isqa
amon you could you could be explained in
a in simpler term.
Ruba d'isqa amon means when you could
count it. It's in front of you where you
can count.
That's what it means it's in front of
you.
Where I can look at it and say, "Look,
there's nine kosher stores and one
non-kosher store. So, it's a rov that I
see." That's in the Torah. Acharei rabim
l'hatos.
When there's
a besdin
of 23
and 12 say
chayev
and 11 say
patur, so we go with the 12. We can
count. 1 2 3, we can count. That's the
isqa amon.
The the the the nine stores, here's the
nine stores. The famous case, you find a
piece of meat that it always drove me
crazy. Find a piece of meat. Where's the
hechser?
Doesn't say, "Okay, fine. No hechser.
But we can assume that it's from one of
these kosher stores and not from
as Esposito's
uh I don't know what, this Italian prime
Italian meat place.
Yeah?
K'go in tisha chanuyos b'sanhedrin.
Lo k'mevuyal on that I never had an
issue with. K'kama b'vuyal on, but my
big problem was ruba d'isqa amon. What
about when it's something that you
cannot count? It's a rov, it's a known
rov.
K'go in katan ukatan amon olam. What's
katan ukatan olam? The famous case, we
actually just discussed it.
But yibum.
We have two brothers.
This is Shaya's father when he was
really young. Shaya's sitting here.
Last year.
This is Avi Kaminsky when he was
younger.
When he had no hair, when he was when he
was
And this this is older brother.
Noam Finkelstein, who's in the other
chair. Gishmak. So now, what happened
was
Noam Finkelstein marries a Five Towner.
Remember she's like his wife today.
Those who know his wife No, she might be
She might actually be from the Five
Towns. Is she from the Five Towns? She's
from Queens.
Queens. Yeah, but she's she's not a
she's not a big shopper. Oh, look. Or
she she's a katana. She has toys. Wow, I
didn't even have that.
Meredith.
So, if
if the yevamah So, what happened? Now,
this the one of the brothers goes
bye-bye.
Now, this is an extreme case.
Either one of them is a cotton, not both
of them, okay? Either the yavam is 11
years old, or the yevamah is 10 years
old, whatever it is.
One of them is a cotton. Now, what's the
problem? Problem is perhaps when this
guy gets older, not him, a guy gets
older, a kid gets older, maybe he won't
be able to have kids. Maybe he's a
saris. And a saris would be assur, it's
a de'oraita to marry his sister-in-law.
You're never allowed to marry your
sister-in-law. The only time there's
there's one exception to the rule for
yibbum.
But that's only if you could be make him
shaim lo chaif. If you could
have children. If you can't have
children, then it's not a nigeah. So,
maybe I should be choshesh. Just what?
I'm not choshesh. Why would I According
to Rashi, I am.
According to Chanam, I'm not. Why not?
Cuz I go with the Ra'avad. So, the
Gemara
How do I know that idea? Omar Rebbi
Elazar, Siman Shevach Mechaneish. So,
these are rashei teivos for 10 Amora'im.
Each one is going to give us another
idea.
All of them are basically pushed off.
And then the rabbi says we have to come
on to the Muslim scene.
Says the Gamorah ask him
every morning in the Muslim English we
bring a comment.
The head of the
so as we know
We take the this 13
that take these pieces and each one they
cut it up. And one coin holds the head
of the animal in his hand.
The head of the animal you can't chop up
in the pieces. Why
solid in the solid in the
chop up a head you have to hold it.
You have to have it whole.
The problem is when they
perhaps
There's
a lining a membrane around the brain.
It's called the chrome like a plastic
bag. And if it has a hole in it
That's a tray for it's one of the 18
trays. As we're going to see throughout
the there's 18 trays.
One of them is my way.
Maybe this animal has a hole in its
membrane.
Sounds like it's something somebody
would say you have a hole in the
membrane. I don't know.
You have a hole in the membrane and then
it makes it what? A hole in your head. A
hole in the head.
A hole in the cup. A hole in the
membrane.
A hole in the membrane.
And therefore it's a tray for how do I
know it's not? Now I can't go in there
and do an autopsy. Why?
I can't do an autopsy. Why can't I do an
autopsy? Because then I'm breaking the
head open and it has to be whole.
The latest
here is the membrane from the show.
Around the brain.
Now let me show you in something better.
It's also from the show.
Now I just have to warn people if you're
not into the stuff
We'll see in a second.
Warning.
I had a bunch of worse one but this is
they did it in a nice way. Clean the
whole thing. Great.
Says the Gamorah in my
Do my who told you? Who told you that
you can't check the brain? There's a way
to check the brain without chopping up
the head into pieces. Dimo with the
falafel lay or balagan lay, I thought
maybe the word falafel is like fillet.
That you cut it open.
One L, F I L E T.
V M Shulm Oison S'Chor F I L L E T if
you want to say like that, that's your
your prerogative. Or you could say
fillet without a T at the end. Either
way. That's the committee to the left.
It's okay. I can say anything I want cuz
I once said
it's the epic center.
I once said it's the epic center.
Mashke's a okay. So my daughter had a
good laugh for her for a year.
And then she forgot about it. Once in a
while she reminds me. V M Shulm Oison
S'Chor.
V M Shulm Oison S'Chor. V M S'Chor now
the the the the two guys that were
basically born here and they sure don't
really
You Shai, you got the epic center joke?
No. I didn't think so.
I'll follow up with you later.
He wasn't born here but he was a little
kid when he got here. The epic joke. And
when he Nothing. Nothing. What? And when
he was at the epic center he was a
little kid. Yeah, exactly.
Epic center. The way you spell epic is
with a C at the end. E P I C.
I said epic center. But it's epicenter.
That's how you say okay. Does the the
Americans make fun? Lamshana. V M Shulm
Oison S'Chor V M S'Chor S'Chor.
How many layers of this heart does the
lamb have already? Says the Gemara, this
issur of cutting up the head
cutting it up to pieces if you cut it
completely. I'm going to make it the
life less number. Check this out.
Here's the palalay.
He made a cut on the top of your If
you're grossed out from these things,
don't look.
That's the brain.
He's going to zoom in to show you the
membrane around the brain.
It's like a bag around the brain.
You don't have a straight of this little
hole there.
Okay.
But what we saw here
is that he cut where his hands are in.
How How are How are his hands inside
this guy's head? Cuz he made a nice cut.
But the bottom is all intact. The side
is intact. You see where it's brown all
the way to the right side of the screen
is intact. Just what?
He made a He sliced it open. That's
okay. That's not in the in the It's not
It's still whole.
So the Gemara, thank you, my brother
Omar. Okay. I got pawned him. I don't
have a right off from here that I'm
going with the right. Why? Because
perhaps
he does check. Maybe you have to check
every single morning, every single
evening, every carbon that comes onto
the
every carbon I should check the membrane
of the brain. The membrane of the brain.
My brother
I
another right. I learned it from
breaking the bones on Pesach. Why? It
says on Pesach Should we show this? I
don't know if it's saying yet. As I'm
talking. It says by the carbon Pesach
you're not permitted to break any bones.
Don't
let us see boy. So it's the same right
that we brought a second ago. The
maybe the brain
the membrane around the brain is
has a hole in it. And therefore what? It
is a treifa. And you can't check it out
because you can't do the trick that we
said before. What was the trick before?
That you're going to make a You're going
to slice the skull open and peek inside.
You can't do that with the carbon
Pesach. Why? Cuz you can't break any
bones.
But I For that I do have a So what's the
shaiya?
What's the shaiya? What can I do? From
the bottom.
Stick your hand in and go in?
Go inside the skull.
No, but you know, but what about the the
the the spine and everything else? It's
not going to break. It's not you know
Okay. There's a better answer.
Yeah, but if you do that, you're
probably going to puncture the membrane.
You want to get to the membrane look.
So the way they do it is without break
with burning it. If you make a burn
through the skull, that's okay. You can
burn through your way through.
You burn your way through the color
light and it burns the the skull. Oh, by
the way, then you can check it.
Cuz it says by giving
Now it's also to cut bones, but what
about sinews that are similar to bones?
That's okay in the carbon Pesach.
It's also okay to burn the bones of a
carbon Pesach. And they burn the shom
shvira and that's not considered
breaking bones.
I don't have a raya. Maybe he did check.
Maybe everybody to check the membrane of
the brain through burning your way
through there.
No raya that we could rely on life.
Asim alia. I'm going to bring a raya
from the tail.
The law is that every carbon that's
eaten like a shalom and asham, you put
the tail the the the tail of the the fat
of the Let's show the alia again. Here
we go.
On to the mizbayach. Now
by doing that, by putting the tail onto
the mizbayach,
you are severing perhaps you're severing
the spinal cord.
And by severing the spinal cord, you're
you're making it a trayfa. That's one of
the 18 treifos, the spinal cord.
The leg of a shuman if it's a chuta
shadra.
So, he's the chuta shadra. Let's see.
Chuta shadra, it's some beautiful stuff
today. All new for today.
We have a 3D of the spine. That's the
spine, but inside the spine it protects
the that white chuta shadra, which we
know is the the whole um
Yeah, but what's spinal cord do? The
Nervous system. The nervous system. The
nervous system.
So, it's tomorrow as you can see for the
chuta shadra for the spinal cord that's
inside this tail.
Ella sha Ella mishum dam minun silva
suruba. No, we're going to go with the
rove. And it's usually not an issue.
V'chi ta eima d'me ta tei pasul l'o.
Maybe you'll tell me, you know why it's
not an issue? Because I'm cutting the
tail
lower down on the on the spine.
And over there I'm not so concerned
about the spinal cord. If I do detach
the spinal cord, that's not a treifa.
That's a whole sugia.
The spinal cord has like three we will
see pictures later on of where the
spinal cord the nervous system splits.
It has like different
um
What's the word here? It's Nerve
endings. They're like this. Like you see
that split over there? So, there's more
of that.
At a certain point you could cut the
spinal cord and nothing will happen to
the animal. We see it with animals
certain animals you cut their tail like
Doberman Pinschers all that. You cut the
tail and nothing happens. That thing at
the bottom. What?
>> That the thing at the bottom of the
spinal cord that comes out it's called
the cauda equina.
Cauda equina? That's what it's called.
Quad is four.
That's why it's called quad.
>> No, I think it I don't think it's
spelled with a Q.
No?
>> It's like caught it like with a C. Oh,
interesting.
Okay. How do you know that? From one of
your cases?
>> One of my cases, yeah.
Interesting. What? One of your chevre
had a tail?
No, it was a tail
>> The The humans have it also. They have a
tailbone.
Cholov
u'mov v'lecho shavim l'o.
so we said this.
No.
So this is going to blow you away. This
is my mom and Sean believable.
Where
do you cut this
this are you from?
All the way from the kidneys.
Check it out here the kidneys beautiful.
Look at this what did they
Look at that.
From right over there. So you have to
take the tail from up there. If you're
going to cut it from the where those
kidneys are, of course you're going to
if you sever the the spinal cord, you
cause serious damage serious damage.
That's a real treif. Doesn't get any
worse than
No.
You won't right. You're not going to be
able to check it.
If you cut right if you cut
if you have to take that part from the
class all and put it on the misbehave,
how you going to check how you going to
check whether or not the spinal cord is
severed later on.
So this is tomorrow.
Yeah, no more thoughts on my mom and mom
and Sean close the eyes twice. The man
is all thing here that the
Do you see that animals also have eight
so they take
the
the thoughts fall they think about the
whole world they're simple slaves to the
whole world. Okay.
Huh?
The what?
What is that? All animals what is the
meaning? Game eights okay. They take
eights.
What do you mean?
It has to be across no?
I don't know I don't know what you mean
by down.
I would I would say it's from What?
What? I'm not a big mom claw.
But wherever that is, from that point
on, no?
To the right of the other claws. A
straight line.
Horizontally, you're saying. Kimat,
yeah. Which is kind of Like where that
bone is, where that thigh bone hits,
like somewhere over there, no?
Like over here, in this area.
But, then it's But, you're not going to
where the kidneys are. You're just going
going in a line straight.
Is it I think the kidney is just to tell
you where you should draw your your line
up. But, you're going up. That's That's
what I'm saying. You're going straight.
That's all. What do you mean straight?
Like this way? You're cutting off half
the sponge you're doing. Exactly. That's
the That's the whole point. That's the
whole point.
You You You're cutting off that whole
spine and you're putting You're putting
that whole part of the spine on the on
the on the mizbe'ah. That's all part of
the tail, so to speak.
Of course it goes. That's the whole
nikuda.
The The chulas shaat goes all the way
from there, all the way down into the
tail. Now, if you cut it lower down from
the tail, it's not the end of the world.
Nothing will happen to the nervous
system of the animal. Cuz that's already
a weaker part of the the the the the
spinal cord. But, where the the kidneys
are, that's a main a main part of the
spinal cord. And that that will make it
a
certainly make it treif. And now, if
you're taking all of that and you're
putting it on the mizbe'ah, you're not
going to be able to check it.
Ask the Gemara, why can't you check it?
Maybe open it up and check it. Bring
something to me.
It has to be whole. I mean, like the
chazal the Gemara.
I'll leave it to the life Let's number.
Maybe you just slice it open and check
to see make sure that the the whole
cord is intact from that point on.
So, maybe I don't have a great ra'ayo.
Rav Shishei Rav Idi Amar asked me a
regular roofa. I learned from Degel
Rufa. What's Degel Rufa? If they find a
body between two cities and Yoshi made a
brand new one just for today.
So, you don't know which who
where the killer came
So, they do with the dead eyes.
And then they have to bring a calf.
And they
do a little chopping to the head. Not a
big deal.
And it has to be in the river.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't stop it. I just said, "Oh, all
right. Maybe he listened."
In the Hebrew, which was literally 40
minutes ago, less.
Um I said, "How about they didn't see
capital cuz they were going to bring it
right now."
Dave, you told him to do that?
Oh, Kobe was there. Kobe was there and
Kobe told him, "Okay, I got it."
Yeah, they changed the
Yeah, sure.
I'm just going
We learn from the roof.
This calf has to be whole.
Do them all.
When you chop its head off, maybe you
chopped off a head of a animal that's a
treif.
It must be that we go with most animals.
Most animals are not treif. So, maybe
it's good.
But what's the difference
if it's treif or not? It's not a carbon.
You just chop its head off.
No.
The fact is it says in the policy way of
of capital Israel.
So what?
So what? This is more important. They
could leave. They could go. Tell them to
go.
But they don't do anything VIP service.
Garbage.
I don't This is more important.
The only got to walk coaching.
And what are you going to do? Wait Wait
in the I'm saying wait in there about 40
minutes time.
Okay. But anyway, oh, we have to be we
have to leave in 10 minutes anyway.
That's what he's saying. It's enough
coming in 10 minutes. Fine.
So let's see what we can do in 10
minutes.
No.
It has to be no treif on it because it
says the word kaparah.
Another
we're learning from parah adumah. Don't
worry about it.
What's
the parah adumah? The parah adumah is
the red heifer that it doesn't have any
white hairs or anything like that. It's
pure red. What do you do with it? You
burn it. Use the ashes to mix with water
which we sprinkle on somebody who became
tummy from a dead person.
Let's see how that looks. Back in the
day it looked like this. This is a
earlier You can see the eyes of the
animal opening closing.
By the way, this reminds me I think they
just found the guy
that did the Palisades fires.
How many like
6,000 homes were burned. 12 people died.
He He lit it on purpose. They found him.
I heard this week they found him. Okay.
It has to be whole without a treif.
Believe it or not treif. You go with the
right.
It's treif. No, right. The after you
mean no.
It's not a carbon. It is a carbon. Why?
Cuz we call it hot to see it's like a
carbon. How is that a carbon?
Reva
Oh, I just want to point out a give all
the cash from this. Were you here for
the Hebrew show also?
Yeah.
You don't understand anything. Okay. So
This is that's a great cash. Were you
here? Very. I was on the bed down there.
So Who was close to the bottom? The uh
Oh.
Me? No, it's not you.
Somebody else. My brother.
From my other mother.
Later. Okay. Later. You didn't say
later. This is that's a great cash. How
old is the para aduma?
Has to be in the second year. That means
it lived 12 months. If it lived 12
months, then it can't be a treifa. Hello
my became treifa later. Okay, then I had
a hazaka demikara. It went at least 12
months of its life without a without
being a treifa. So you concerned that
maybe developed a treifa, too bad on
you. I have a hazaka that's not a treifa
cuz I I can prove that it wasn't a
treifa for the first 12 months of its
life. So is that the gemara?
The video Gimido has to get the right
I see the same as the layer.
I'll prove it to you from the two goats
of Yom Kippur. One we throw off a cliff
and one we do the aveda in
the base hamikdash here.
You do a a goiro. You see which one
either one can be
whatever. Could could be the carbon
lashon. You tie a red thing to its head.
You tie a red thing on a stone.
Oh, wait a minute. I want to point out
that when we throw him off the cliff,
as you can see from the video, his body
is going to disintegrate into many
pieces.
And they wave flags, wave flags from one
tower to the other.
This is very important. This right over
here. Boom. As Benny pointed out that
these mountains have a lot of points on
them.
You get it?
Pointed out there's a lot of points in
it.
There's a white
You're right.
>> lot of a lot of all right.
And that that string turns if there's a
kaparah, it turns from red to white.
So, the Gemara
we learn from the
Gemara
that you should take two of them.
Shushnayim shavim, they should both be
equal.
That's the Gemara that you learn in
Maseches Bava Metzia. Dilma chavinayu
treifim, perhaps one of them is a
treifah. And therefore, what?
The one that fell off the cliff is a
treifah. Ela, we should not mean this by
the majority. We have to go with the
majority. The majority, they're not
treifos. Who cares? Who cares? Who
cares? It's not a carbon that fell off
the cliff. Anyways, it's going to Like
my mother used to tell me, what
difference if the cookie is broken?
You're going to chew it up and it's
going to be broken anyways in your
mouth. So, it also gives if it's treif,
you're throwing it off a mountain while
it's alive. It's breaking up into
pieces.
The Gemara says, Oin gorel kiveila
azazel, el b'davar re'uy l'shem. No,
it's a big enough community because the
one that you throw off a mountain has to
be ro'uy
to be a carbon.
And you'll tell me that what? That after
it gets down to the bottom of the
mountain of the cliff, you'll pick it up
and check to see that it's not a
treifah. But no, no. We learned in the
Mishna, lo hoya magila machazis ha'ar.
It only went halfway down the mountain
ach she'nasah vayivalah
in a bunch of
pieces. Therefore, you can't check it.
Fine.
Gemara Omar
Ovel Aviw Emo. This is gevaldik. If
somebody hits his father and causes him
to bleed,
not that anybody in this room ever did
that.
I'm not talking to you. Don't worry, I'm
talking to us all.
You're all getting nervous. Who's he
talking about?
Uh don't worry, I'm not talking to
anybody. No, I'm good. Thank you, sir.
The Torah says you kill this person.
But listen to the question. This is
going to blow your mind. This is going
to
How do you know he's your father? How do
you know he's your father? Your mother
could prove it. But how could you prove
that's your father?
Well, listen to the love of a fool.
Maybe
there's another father involved there.
You have to use the roof. The roof
This is the husband that was there from
the beginning. So, most likely Yeah,
you're right. It's very possible that
somebody else
in in certain communities in America,
whatever. But in our community, it's not
so we don't know what's going to but
it's possible. So, you have to go with
the roof.
Cuz it's but it's not the roof.
Wow.
I hope that's not the reason. So, where
it's interesting. Doesn't sound right.
I know, but when somebody dies and you
do a you say their father's name.
Good.
No.
Oh, I got to tell you this real quickly
by the way.
I I want to go back
cuz I got sticking a little bit of
something. But by the
way, I have to start using it with my
children a little bit. I have to
remember.
He's talking to a group of
non-affiliated teenagers.
And he was convincing them to let's get
out of here before whatever. So,
one of the guys said, "Wait a minute.
But we're really enjoying life here."
And they all go, "Yeah, we're enjoying
life. Why would we want to be from blah
blah blah?"
So, he said, "I want to give you a
martial." This is a guy
he jumped off the Azrieli Towers, a
40-story building.
And as he's flying through the air, some
guy on the 20th floor opened up the
window and said, "Hey,
how you liking it?" He said, "I'm loving
it. The view is unbelievable.
It It's like It's like literally like
jumping out of a plane. It's so It's so
exhilarating." He says, "Schmuck, I'm
flying. The The wind is blowing through
my" And then 10 seconds later, poof.
He says, "Yeah, you schmuck. Right now
you're enjoying yourself,
but you're you're you're you're you're
like a a freight train into the ground.
You going Where you going?" Yeah, you
schmuck, right now.
Yeah? It's not going to work with
teenagers. It works with teenagers such
a such a
It's not bad. It's not bad.
Just reminded by the the Soral Azan.
He's a Avar Mayavar.
Fine.
I will upon him, says the Gemara over
here. Remember I
I'll give you a case where
it's 100% the father. Why? Because the
mother and the father were locked up in
a prison in one room. And the only
ability The only The only possibility is
that he's the father. The Gemara, even
so, there's no such thing. Afilu Hachi,
Ain Apitropos Larayus.
There's a concept that there's no
guarantee when it comes to Arayus. It's
a famous line, but it's it's a true
line. I think it's an important line.
Without getting into any crazy details,
but I know for from first-hand stories
of people that you wouldn't believe,
people that are mamesh uh
very very
Tmim Usdik and and and Yirei Shamayim.
I'll call them Yirei Shamayim. Both men
and women. And that's the Chiddush.
Put in certain situations, as you the
Yerushalmi says. The Yerushalmi says,
even
Choshesh BaChasidim, he says, Ain
Apitropos Larayus.
There's no such thing as somebody says,
"Oh, I'm above that." Everybody We had a
a few times in the
Chashuvei Daylam Rabbonim Bizman Hazeh.
Countless stories that people are
Nikshal.
>> And that's why everybody should, if they
can,
be careful where you put yourself, what
what what work line you're at, what
Okay, now without going into the deal.
Sure.
Just one ma'aser of of Rebbi Elimelech
Plan. Yeah, yeah, it's cuz it's if if
you know these things, if you know
what's going on in the real world. I'm
talking about the most honest, normal
tzaddikim should be tzaddikim, tzitzit
koni should be tzitzit koni is there
everybody's neshama at the end of the
day put in the wrong situation or the
right situation, call it whatever you
want.
Do not put yourself in that situation. A
bachur came to Rebbi Elimelech Rebbi
Elimelech Plan, Rebbi Elimelech Plan,
and he said,
"I want to go to chasunah." She says,
"Okay, where is it?" He says, "Over
here." He says, "So you're going to go
through Tachana Merkazit in Tel Aviv?"
He says, "Yeah." He says, "But what
about you know shmiras einayim
whatever?" He says,
"It's not mashpia on me." He says. He
says, "I'm a I'm
So Rebbi Rebbi tells me, "Okay, you can
go to the chasunah, but make sure on the
way back you go see a doctor."
So the He says, "Yeah, I'm 80 years old
and I have issues. You're a bachur, of
course you have issues. So if you're
going to tell me that you don't have
issues, you should go see a doctor."
Ein Abba Treifos La'aris. Huh? Something
cut. Cut.
Rav Kahana Amar, Asim Ho'eges Nefesh.
How much time do we have? Minus one
minute. Yes, yes.
Okay, so what what should we do? Keep
going a little bit more. We'll do a
little bit more. No, we'll finish the
rest later. We'll make Kiddush Hashem.
Rav Kahana Amar, Asim Ho'eges Nefesh.
We learn from a killer.
You should kill a killer. Somebody
killed another human being, you kill
him. Ve'eileh she'einam treifos haveah.
But maybe the person that died, the the
victim, maybe he was a treifah. And when
a person kills an a treifah,
it's assur, of course, but you can't
kill him.
So why do you kill him? Ela mishum
d'einam b'vasar u'dam, I mean it's a
possible but
are not treifous. He doesn't have He has
an intact membrane. The
maybe you should do an autopsy and check
it out.
You can't do that because it's not right
to it's a bizarre maze. You're making
disgusting to do so to to dead person
cut him up.
Listen, you want to kill somebody. So
you can you can't kill him until you do
an autopsy. Maybe in order to save his
life you should do an autopsy. And from
here they want to bring
Can you do autopsies?
This nevelous
Can you do it in certain situations?
It's very important for
etc.
The
oh
The
oh says tomorrow
At the end of the day maybe you should
be concerned that this
something like this. Maybe the bullet
that he shot went right through a hole
that was pre-existing in the guy's
heart.
Or
Here, this is in an animal. Here's a
hole in the
trachea
and this would make the animal a treifa.
And then comes along the
which we're going to say that that's
actually a case in the tomorrow.
But also in the human being maybe the
knife that he used went right through
a pre-existing wound that made him a
treifa. So maybe I will never know
if this guy is was a treifa or not.
And I have to
I guess I have to be somewhat right.
The boy side Okay, we're not stopping
we're not finishing this year.
Oh
What oh practice
practice is but there's a way to kill
somebody without causing a wound at all
where you don't have the
of maybe it went through a hole or not
hole and that is if you submerge them in
water.
You kill him by drowning him. Over there
there's no wound. Okay, I am the
to be continued hopefully
in the airport or on the way to the
airport.
Uh boys, I we're here in Madrid in the
Chabad.
Mordec
We tried to do this piece of Gamara last
night at 2:00 a.m.
We thought it went, but it about
I guess it didn't go.
Or it went, it wasn't great. So, we're
going to do it again.
This is the
the tiara the
traveling.
We're going to get off you all of them
base.
10 off into the sector school.
A beautiful school year and 10
sheets of
why
we go with arrive when it's arrive the
lesser come on. When you have arrive
that you can't count, how do you know we
go with the majority?
We're holding my
Rebbe.
Ask him if he knows anything.
Ask him if he knows anything is very
interesting.
You're seeing the chart here. Hopefully
he sticks it in.
We have a By the way, we're just
recording off of a phone now.
Nothing fancy, just to get it out.
So, maybe the audio is a little off, but
it's all good.
Ask him if he knows anything.
When you have two of them against two of
them, two against two is zero. Nothing
happens. They
each other, boom.
But if you have two of them that testify
that Reuben is a killer.
And two other of them come and they say
that the first two of them, they were on
a cruise ship with us. It's impossible
that you were able to witness the
killing. You were in Madrid when that
happened.
So, the two of them that tried to kill
Reuben, they said he's a killer, they
die. That's the same like the same mom.
You do to them exactly what they wanted
to do to Reuben.
And as the Gamara is going to say later,
I'm going to give you the end over here,
it's only if Reuben actually
is alive. Because if they were
successful and they killed Reuben with
their testimony, we do not kill them.
But the Gamara proves from here right.
How do you prove right?
The
you do to the two Adam the
the initial Adam the original Adam that
testified that Reuben is a killer.
We do to them like they wanted to do to
Reuben and we kill them.
This Reuben guy
maybe he had a hole in his trachea.
And therefore he's considered a treifa.
Maybe he had a hole in his membrane of
the brain that surrounds the brain, the
plastic bag around the brain. Maybe it
had a hole in it. And he's a treifa. And
therefore if you kill a treifa, you
yourself don't die.
It's a big issur, but you don't get
misa.
So why do we kill the Adam? Obviously we
rely on the rov and the majority.
You know when you
kill these two Adam, when you do an
autopsy to Reuben, we open up his brain
and we see that there's no holes and we
open up his trachea, we see there's no
holes.
But that's impossible. Why?
If Reuben ends up dying,
then we don't kill the two Adam. So you
can't do an autopsy. The only time you
kill the Adam is when he's alive.
When he's alive, you can't do an
autopsy.
But then you can tell if he's a treifa
or not. Wait for 12 months. If he
continues to live, that means he's not a
treifa. If he's not a treifa,
then you kill the Adam.
Another
shot.
You want to turn the camera around or
it's too much to
nervous. Oh, you're doing some phone.
Okay. We have cheetah man with us.
Anonymous cheetah man.
With my cohen on the damage matters we
can't say anything.
We have Benny and we have Dave. You all
there?
From every shot from our studio from
cooling you can learn the halacha of
majority of right. Why?
The Torah says just shot and eat.
And there's no issue. But wait a minute,
maybe the knife went into exactly where
the treif was. There's a hole
in the trachea. As you see Ariel you'll
put the chart right now where he shots
right through a hole in the trachea and
you'll never know that he shot through
that hole and it was a treif before. And
if it's a treif you're not allowed to
eat it. But we eat meat. Is the haraya
that we rely on the right because most
treifs don't have holes.
Oh, Rashi.
So Rashi is talking about his father he
just said. I'm reading the shma to come
in the Rav Kahana. Not only his own
father. I said all 10
He says where you could go ahead and
check
then go ahead and check. But where you
can't, let's say there's a hole in the
trachea. It's impossible to ever
decipher that. You'll never know whether
or not there was a hole there. So then
you have to be on the right. But where
let's say a regular shot
you could you could check.
You like to
because if not or maybe the you told me
or maybe throughout shots and we just
mentioned him in the beginning of shalom
it comes to evil.
Whether or not we should be on a
youngster on a cotton.
That he might turn out to be a
Remainder says yes, we got to be
careful. He can't be me out when he's a
cotton. Maybe So cautious, always
concerned about the minority, the meal
of the meal, the the meal.
Romero
will never eat meat in his life. Why?
Because maybe there's a
there's a not even a 1% chance that the
knife cut through the
hole in the corner, and therefore you'll
never know if it was
a proper shidduch or not. Maybe the
animal is treif. So you can tell me he
doesn't eat meat, it's impossible. If
you came up with an army, you'll say,
"Yeah, Romero never ate meat." He was a
vegetarian. He couldn't have been a
vegetarian. Why? Because of the kosher
my mama. No one could be a true
vegetarian.
Even vegetarians must eat the carbon
Pesach. A little bit of a kosher on
vegetarians.
I'm sure they have some answers to this.
The kosher my mama.
And Rashi, if you look at the top Rashi
over here, Rashi brings a possible but
always have boser. There's a possible
you should eat meat.
So how's it possible if the Torah tells
you
boser?
Then how could Romero not eat meat?
Says the Gomorrah, "Elohecha shifsha
shifsha." You see from this from the
fact is the fact is the Romero eats
meat.
Why? Because when you could check it
out, let's say
by a yavam
katan. The kid is 10 years old. So you
wait. If you can do something about it,
you do something about it. You wait 2
years.
If he's 3 years old, you wait 10 years.
But you could do But when it comes to
shidduch, there's nothing you can do.
There's no way to figure it out, then
you'll be so on the right.
We
cannot be so on the right. Otherwise,
you'll never be able to eat meat. So you
so
You have to be so on the right and say
that the Torah this animal did not have
a hole in its trachea, and therefore you
can eat meat.
And
therefore in all our cases here,
when it's possible to figure things out,
we figure it out. When it's impossible,
then we rely on the right. Now, before
we finish,
I really could throw this on the screen.
It's in one of the charts this Rashi.
So, Rashi says, at the end of the day,
all the 10 riots we we we had a pure to
So, then why do we rely on a rove as
matters there
when it comes to a rove the lesser
common a rove that the numbers are not
countable?
Like by SARS, we don't know how
You can't say, "Okay, this kid is not a
SARS. Let's count." Uh like a 23 of the
Sanhedrin where you can count 12 and 11.
When it comes to SARS, you can't get it.
It's just majority of the world are not
to reason. So, how come we rely on rove?
So, Rashi says, "Elevator on the mission
of Sinai." One shot in Rashi is that
it's a lot. Much of the way we receive
this from a good one Sinai.
And that's it. We don't have a a clear
cut right from a possible.
I don't know about a few of them after
even when you could
figure it out. Wait a few years. You
don't have to, says Rashi, because much
of the way we got it from a bunch of
them from a good one right.
You know
it means another thing much of the way
we do this kind of less common. Okay.
And then Rashi says something super
interesting.
If we're summit on rove, that explains
why when we shut an animal, we don't
have to
check all 18 treifas.
He says, "The whole mission of Sinai and
this is what we rely on the lower kind
of kosher treifas. We don't check all
18." When it comes to real, however, we
know that we do check the lungs. Why do
we check lungs? That's Rashi.
It's one of the 18. Which from the
real also but came because it's very
common to find
a hole in it and therefore we check.
And then says Rashi a secret that you're
not allowed to tell anyone about.
The this rove the official rove of the
world over. If it occurred that the lung
disappeared and you didn't check this
particular lung, what do you do? Do you
eat the animal or not? It's very common
that this hole is in the in the
in the lung. This is Rashi Miss Akla.
You're allowed to eat this animal. Why?
Because I'm here in a hall. You can rely
on what we just said that you
by the
anything that shifted has a
of header.
And then Rashi says these unbelievable
words that ain't the first in the door.
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