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Good morning Rabbi boys
with all with all the
smart life from Lakewood.
It's good you coming. It's good you
having me.
It's good you to Marcus Canelo for being
there
day and night whenever I call on him.
It's
pretty early fairly early. I just got
done doing the Hebrew share doing the
English share now.
And then I go home pack and go to the
airport
tomorrow. I'll be in Arizona. Oh, if you
guys are watching this year. This is
actually a Thursday. This is we are in
Wednesday right now and this year is for
Thursday. So
I just want to show it on Thursday
morning.
That after share I'll be landing in
Arizona and having a Hebrew share.
Thursday night
in the basement
in the mothership. Can't wait.
A lot a lot of my life being there the
the energy in the room the equipment the
people it's unbelievable.
So looking forward.
A
reminder for special hammer.
This will be your day.
Don't say it now cuz here in America is
13 days in the hammer.
And the series hammer is the first time
more vision is we talk for this tomorrow
and last the first time more.
Let's blow this up here.
From Robert Kirschberg.
First of all wishing you and your
incredible and talented team
I visit MDY in person in early January
this year. I made it to share three
times during my trip. I've got about 120
or so consecutive days now doing the
diet with you but what's most incredible
is the 18 months or so since I started
my tour learning has has skyrocketed.
This morning being a bar I went to MDY
and listened to see him that was
planned. It ended up being the last bit
of walking which I spent with you in its
entirety. Two years ago I would have
understood maybe 5 to 10% of the CM this
year close to 100% talking about bombers
etc.
I cannot believe the change in my
comprehension of the material. I think I
should be guiding me to your share.
Become a daily requirement for me above
work. You and your team make the
learning enjoyable but as I found out it
stays with you. Going to pay some
feeling extremely blessed. You hear this
going to pay some feeling extremely
blessed. Rob Kirschberg Valley Village
California photo from January 2nd this
year. Thank you.
Rob.
Lace Tyler was here last night.
He says that I would enjoy this I guess
you know. I sank their entire navy.
Frankly every ship is at the bottom of
the ocean except their
row cadets. Thank you for your attention
to this matter.
>> row cadets. I don't think I want to
Except the row cadets. He does say it as
for some reason it's not the official
edition MDY shots by the Iranian Levy
family project family in honor of
Mordecai Rubin.
The
Eli
the
Ben
or a bra.
The is sponsored.
We have one corporate sponsors. We're
looking for many more of them.
It's
about $10,000 a month.
But
you know MDY can use it.
We have I think it's six artists right
now and
growing.
Dedicated memory of
the small burger this is a bra.
We have four editors.
I hope we have four editors. We're
looking cuz we're looking for a Hebrew
one.
I I don't know I heard of a very good
idea. I hope it goes through. Let me
know if it did. Joe is the least of my
father Jack is now famous editor that
the whole share knows who he is. If he
does it'll be a tremendous success for
MDY and him. Anonymous
project family foundation
going to show
the message to Eli. Anonymous for
mission anonymous for complete anonymous
to sister Malcolm speaking of the
cassette. So probably
keep staying so it goes to family can be
UK not rebellion change my meaning of
life. I don't know money also marking
Benny and all the talking to MDY
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Weekly sponsors anonymous in honor of
Eli Marcus Canelo in the entire MDY
crew. You got to slow down for a second.
It's good for Mark again by Michelle
full month.
I'll be more.
When did I get her?
Who knows?
But every single day
by Michelle 2 in the morning
10:00 in the morning here in America
today. Eight time Weinberg. Leading the
room our father's fourth year
having a Leo MDY art month
Jonathan
Brock
Esther May.
Before say yellow Daniel Zev Ben Esther.
No I said like I said it like that
because well I know Jonathan
Brock very well.
And I know Mordecai and Esther very very
well and they should have a complete
before say my.
We're holding
top of Saturday morning the first word.
That we did well this but it's my night
I have to say that we got the things
that we're supposed to win and fall too
much behind.
See after the smile.
And
we're discussing a very interesting to
me it was super interesting that
whether or not
the left him upon him was shaped as a
square or like a speedboat.
It's row cadets speedboat.
We had a few.
These Iranian speedboats these fast
boats.
Doesn't look like that or not.
So
this is what it's supposed to look like
something like that.
Says the
I have a question.
If you tell me you
say that it looks like a speedboat so
how does it fit into these words?
So just to repeat this video why not?
It was three forms. One was as you're
making the dough.
One was putting in the oven. That one is
what the referring to the verse.
>> [snorts]
>> It's like a honeycomb.
This is all that the form is in the
inside.
We're going with the rash.
So the
if you take this as the form from the
oven or look at this this is very
difficult. I don't know how they did it.
But
I'm very impressed that they were able
to manipulate AI to do a form like that
in the shape of a boat.
I'm sure it wasn't easy.
But it says before that this this form
was like a basket like a verse or
a honeycomb I think.
In other words it had a bunch of holes
like a honeycomb.
But unlike a honeycomb which is round
it was square.
How is he
going to get out of this one? It says it
was square not not like a boat. So
the top was square whatever that means
exactly maybe they put a form inside
that was square maybe the the outside
was square towards the top. But the the
bottom was was like a boat.
Thank you
but I have a right the opposite way.
It seems like it was actually a
speedboat. The
bus
station in Russia.
We discussed these the walls that go up
to the top of the
called the fan.
They were split on the top and they
looked like like the corner.
Almost like a branches.
So you all she did something you know
obviously it didn't look like this but
you know he asked me if he should throw
it away. I said no.
Maybe I'll give somebody some sort of
idea. Look like some sort of flower. If
you look at it from the side it looks a
little interesting.
Comes out from you know.
You can call me.
That they would
rest the bread on it. But the point of
this whole thing is
row cadets that the breads
were similar to the shape of row cadets
a speedboat.
Okay.
Now
we have a bit of a sugar.
Completely different topic.
It's not even the whole almond.
But a very very interesting question.
Let me show you this video.
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> Phenomenal video.
We're talking about the
the
are 12 breads that are on the table the
fan.
And every
you replace them
with the new breads and they get to eat
the old breads that sat in the fan for a
full week. Smoke him out of them. We
would show the show that they were nice
and fresh was one of the
the the
one of the Nissan.
I want to show you this video. It's
beautiful video.
But also
the question is based on this video in
other words
when
travels through the desert travel 40
years.
When they're traveling
is it how do we view the bread? The
bread just traveled.
The bread was surrounded by a mission.
The mission like a
a portable mission.
You see on the screen here.
The center.
Those walls. That's the mission.
Now the bread is inside the Mishkan.
Now, we pick up the walls. We fold
everything.
We move.
1 mile that way.
The bread just now moved.
If If this was the Mishkan right now,
and I took the bread out of those walls
to the to the to the tents. It's
outside.
It came out.
I didn't take the bread out. I'm
traveling. I'm doing my my job. I'm a
Levite. I pick up the Shulchan with the
three of my friends. We're still moving.
Where did you move?
You moved outside
the designated area of the Mishkan,
which was here for a month or so,
and you just started moving. Now, you
moved it outside of that area.
Is it outside or not outside?
On the one hand, it's on the Shulchan.
The bread is still on the Shulchan. So,
maybe the Shulchan has a kosher or not.
So, that's the discussion today. So,
before we have the discussion, let's
just see this beautiful video.
You have like uh
Those are the sniffing according to that
man over there.
Cover the bread.
This is very important. We'll use this
picture later.
Breaking down of the walls of the
Mishkan.
>> [cheering]
>> How would you picture that cloud? A
cloud.
A pillar of fire
would lead them in the night.
And here's the bread.
Is that kosher or not? That's the
question.
Did I just remove the bread from the
Mishkan?
The bread upon him
does it become possible by traveling?
Outside? Or it ain't no good by
traveling? It doesn't become possible by
traveling.
Why? Because the bread is on the
Shulchan.
>> [snorts]
>> And it's not possible. Now, since I'm
traveling today,
I'd like to share with you
maybe some of you
will have uh
some understanding of what I'm referring
to.
The Rabbi asks
that that
when he traveled,
he tells the world what's the question?
The bread
and clothes to wear.
Clothes to wear.
Please give me bread to eat and
garments to wear.
So, as the Rabbi asks, of course, what
else are you going to do with bread?
Same smart vibe from my brother David.
>> [clears throat]
>> The what?
Someone in a nursing home, they can't
wear their clothes.
>> [clears throat]
>> They can't eat food, you know. They
should have bread that they can eat.
They have clothes that they can wear.
Okay. Yeah. That's very nice.
Like it. You should have clothes they
could wear.
Especially us after the holiday, we need
clothes that we can wear.
>> [laughter]
>> A lot of us don't have clothes to wear.
More than a shot.
You should have food that we could eat.
We should have teeth that we can chew
on. Beautiful. I like it.
Yeah.
Well, you you had an issue.
>> [clears throat]
>> You didn't get from the park. That's the
problem.
No,
cuz yeah, cuz people are watching you
and they know exactly what you're
talking about. Okay, fine.
I had
boys at the park.
You even have here.
This is edible master. Boys at edible
master.
Very strong master.
So,
you all say you see mom is
>> [clears throat]
>> So, says the Rabbi here.
I I just related to this for today.
He says
you know when you go on a trip,
I don't know about you guys. My wife
starts packing up the sandwiches and the
food as if we're going
for 4 or 5 years. These bags. She's
schlepping through the airport. I'm
like, "What are you doing with all these
bags?" "We need to eat on the plane."
It's okay.
Like one sandwich, one chocolate. I get
it.
14 sandwiches? "And what if we get stuck
for 6 months? And what if this? What if
that?" Okay, fine. Meanwhile, she's
schlepping and of course, there's no
wheels.
It's not cool to go with wheels. You got
to You got to go with the designer or
whatever. No, she doesn't.
I just never understood these people.
They're walking through the airport with
the schlepping 40 lbs. I was like, "But
they look cool." Just get the wheels.
Who cares? It says in Amazon but it has
wheels.
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> So, says the Rabbi
here, "I'm not asking I'm not asking
for It's a great vibe. It doesn't fit in
as well as the Rabbi here.
I'm not asking for extra food.
I'm asking for
bread and clothes. Today, right now, I
need some bread. It's interesting cuz it
fits into the end end of the story. We
have a great story about the
and he didn't have bread to eat. He was
starving. He's about to die.
I need I need clothing now.
How many How many of us here have four
five coats, winter coats?
I don't need
all types. One coat One bag. That's it.
Just one. I don't need the extras.
Okay. Now, let me find my wife. We can
go later. No, I
don't spare the emails, the whole thing.
It was just not even my wife. It's your
wife. It's everybody's wife. It's the
whole Okay.
A
woman is born with that instinct. She
needs to protect her family. She needs
to have exactly What if the kid doesn't
want the sandwich? She needs that
sandwich. Whatever. But it happens to be
that my my my wife's family,
they're they're foodies. They're very
into food. And as soon as she told me
it's like when they would leave the
driveway of their home on the trip, they
would already be pulling out the
sandwiches and make all food in the car.
By us, my kids make fun of me that when
we went on ski trips, I don't want to
tell you what I used to feed them. Like
Here's your soup. The the hot soup. And
this is what he's thinking. Later on, I
I I I bought the I used to go buy uh
I'd buy like the toaster oven and then
and then and make them pizza cuz they
only ate pizza. But Yeah, they [snorts]
have a big tightness now. Like what kind
of Oh, no. So, they said, "No. The food
at night was good.
But during the day, you didn't give us
any food. All the guys were eating, you
know, they were went to ski school and
they were eating burgers [clears throat]
and we had to sit there.
One chocolate bar you gave us." So, I
said, "What's wrong? I didn't have the
chocolate bar. You had it. You had more
than me."
Okay, bye there. Talk to you tomorrow.
Oh.
>> [clears throat]
>> So, we have a
One says it becomes possible by moving
the the bread even though it's inside
the Shulchan. It's not possible. It's in
the Shulchan. It's not possible.
I want to give up I want to tell you the
end of the whole the whole story here.
The end of the story is there is no
Okay. No like this.
If it's on the table, it's not possible.
If it's off the table, possible. That's
the whole story.
How do we get there? How does the know
this? So, the is going to have to prove
it step by step.
It says as you
are parked, that's how you travel. In
other words, obviously
when you park and you take the bread
outside of the Mishkan, that's outside.
And then it's outside.
So, too, when you're traveling, look. As
soon as you traveled, you're outside of
the
Mishkan. The Mishkan was right over
here.
You just moved out of there. So, now
it's outside.
The other man holds the bread
all over here.
This is tremendous that the is going to
say this is too strong. It's not like a
a flimsy
This is so strong this you can't get out
of this. The what? It says the bread
all over here. The kosher is going to
remain on this bread all the time.
Bread all over here. All over here.
The kosher is going to stay.
He
says, "No, we're going to do the
classic. What is he going to do with his
What is he going to do with his What?"
He
says that it doesn't become possible
So, it seems like
traveling is like parking. And when
you're parked, you can't take it out.
So, when you travel, you can't you you
can't take it out. And he just took it
out. Should be possible. He
says, "No, no, you don't understand.
It's the opposite. It's the right to
me."
When you park and you don't take it out
of the Shulchan, it's good.
It's
good. So, so too, when you travel, you
didn't take the bread out of the
Shulchan. It's still in the Shulchan. It
should not become possible.
He says the man says it's possible. Now,
I'm going to say the bread all over
here.
Oops. Checkmate. What are we going to
do?
It says that the
the bread is going to have the kosher.
It's not It's not going to be possible.
It's bread all over here. You know, we
always say the yes.
As is. The kosher remains kosher.
Says the Rabbi here.
So, we're starting to get to where we
need to get. The what?
Says the Rabbi
here, everybody agrees that if it's on
the table, there's no
It remains kosher. I don't care how far
you take it away from the original
of the of the Mishkan. Take it 25 miles
away from the original spot. It's still
kosher. Why? Cuz it's in the it's on the
table.
It's on the shoulder.
I look you believe you give him a soul
up.
What does this mean? Just as shot you
can put it in write it in your Gamara.
Masula means
First of all, it means it's off the
table, but better than that it means
that you took it off the table because
it's Shabbos. It became Shabbos. And
every Shabbos from Shabbos night you
take it off the table.
Now we have a question in development
here. You took the bread out to eat.
You're going to give it to you. All of a
sudden the world comes and says, "Let's
go. Everybody let's go. We're going."
Drop your sandwich.
So now what? It's off the table and I
shall say to move.
Do we consider it or not say?
That's my but if it's on the table, it's
100% okay. It's not possible.
And what's the law?
Same
thing like we had before twice that
the parking is like
the travel. And when you travel, if you
take it out of the of the of the Mishkan
it's possible. I want to see also you
saw two over here since it came out of
the world might it's possible.
You
hear this?
I don't care whatever the world might is
even if it's traveling it's considered a
world might.
But now this is interesting because now
we expanded it. All of a sudden now as
you're traveling, we're this could be a
good muscle for goals. We're in goals,
there's an expansion of of the Dusha.
The
excuse me.
>> [cough]
[clears throat]
>> Maybe it's not a good shot so that's why
I'm coughing.
>> [clears throat and cough]
>> That the
is like the world might before was
it was restricted to the world might.
Now it expands to the whole world. Yeah.
All blue here before very nice. Before
is only where it says
red. Now it's to the entire blue. As
we're traveling the whole blue
and we travel as we're going to see in a
second we travel in a certain
formation.
And that formation of blue is the the
Dusha of the world might.
The
it doesn't say. It says that it travels
and it remains a world might.
>> [clears throat and cough]
>> Ask the Gamara.
What's he going to do? If he already
learns that as you're traveling is Dusha
No, sorry. Not that.
It should be
it should be possible with Yitzer. Can
she can you so and he went out? They
went out of the world might so it should
be possible.
No, like you said before
the opposite.
It's like parking. When you're parked
and you don't move it, it's not
possible.
You
didn't come out of the
you're still within the blue square. If
you're in the within the blue square,
it's not possible.
The mice it says that
the the world might traveled.
It says the Gamara in other words it
remains a world might and there's not no
taking out of the world might. I hold
the
it's not saying that it remains big
Dusha. It's coming to tell you that
there's a certain way that the the the
went.
Yeah, we can still show this one.
There's there was a each each had its
flag.
And they had a
the three men of time for they traveled
in a certain way. These
these three started going then these you
know it was a certain formation and
that's what the Torah is saying.
They have to they have to travel in a
certain way.
So you know how is the other man going
to know this idea of of the if he uses
up the already that there's still
when they travel.
He doesn't have a good possible.
It's telling us that there's when you
travel not that you have to travel with
a a formation. So the Gamara no you're
right. There's two parts of the we
teaches us
that they they travel in a certain
No.
And
there's there's flags that there's a
formation of. Okay. So in other words
there's two parts of the we can learn
these two laws.
I have a question.
So that was
uh
where did the Mark put that picture?
Thank you Mark somewhere.
Oh here. This.
Yeah. This picture is
uh
just a shot from the video, but you see
how they're breaking down the walls of
the entire Mishkan.
So by breaking down the walls, what
happens? The moment you break down the
wall
there's no more Mishkan. No more Mishkan
then
what happens to all the ones that are
inside?
No more Mishkan, what happens to the a
does he have to start moving as well?
So it says
the soul. So let's remember these words
because we're going to talk about it
like in 10 12 lines from now.
That let's say I'm
a carbon
and I shall say take down the walls. I
take down the walls. Now the all of a
sudden
is exposed to it's in the middle of the
desert. He's not in a Mishkan. So he's
he's now
he's now possible because he went
outside of the Mishkan.
>> [cough]
>> They must leave.
Typically speaking
uh
has to go completely outside.
Oh yeah, just
okay.
But typically speaking uh
goes outside of all the he's on the he's
on the desert floor he's on the where
the where it's uh
uh sand
and uh a
has to leave the blue. He go to the
green.
So
In other words the
the the
and you still still have
so they have to leave there.
The the
from the leaves, but the
of the
and you still stays remains.
And you have to get out of there. If
you're a you can't be in there. Didn't
have they wouldn't have to leave.
I says that what happens to where the
is? The
the Mishkan. What happens to that? It
says that if you have a carbon in there,
it becomes possible.
Why? Because there's no more
there's no more
no.
No. So then the
should do the same thing. Should have
the on him.
If it happens to a carbon and
that their
expires because they're not inside of
so the
also the should expire. It should be
possible.
Is that a
lie? Let me upon him.
No all the
you're right, but not the
doesn't become possible.
As the Gamara doesn't make any sense
what you say. One of them.
If the is considered a world might, I
feel the
on me so then even a
that stays there should remain college.
Should become possible. You love that
girl and if it's not considered a world
might, I feel the on me then the should
become possible.
So the Gamara says at the end of the
day, you know what? I give in. There is
no
tomorrow
we like there's no
in other words.
The [clears throat] one that said
that
the remains on the
was talking about a a different case.
He's talking about a case that the was
on the table. When the is on the table,
there's no
Oh, look at that.
Let me see your Gamara your MDY Gamara
for a second.
Actually one of this picture.
This year.
>> [clears throat]
>> Color pictures in the MDY Gamara.
Should have brought one of these to your
friend.
To show him.
Such a sponsor.
I don't know who this one
is. [snorts]
So the Gamara
I don't know if you want to see about
this.
So the Gamara
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> imagine it's like if it said the
Romanian edition.
>> [laughter]
>> They have pictures of hot dogs.
>> [snorts]
>> I got to get rid of this beard I think.
I don't know how people do it.
Let me get ahead.
Yeah. Friday.
I don't know about after
maybe I don't know.
But this Friday if you're
only
you can.
Oh.
On the beard.
Give me all these ideas how to make sure
that it doesn't
>> [snorts]
>> Okay. So the Gamara
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> Give me all this advice.
Were you up the whole night, Mark?
What's going on here?
Says you can borrow all.
And in other words, the man that says
the bread is possible cuz it's off off
the table.
Somebody removed it to eat. So it became
possible. But if it's on the table, it's
no longer possible. That's the bottom
line of the Sugya. On the table, the
bread will remain there even if you
remove it from the Mishkan and go 100
miles away from where it was before, it
remains Kadosh.
If it's off the table and you remove the
Mishkan, it becomes possible. Finished.
I'm right about you.
Did
Klal Yisrael travel during the night? Of
course they have a right to travel
during the night. Why?
That I I could start. I I not travel.
That Hashem says, "Let's go." You go
even if it's 3:00 in the morning. You
go.
You don't have to wait till Does Hashem
have to say, "Listen, Hashem woke you up
3:00 in the morning and said we have to
travel." You say, "Okay, very good, but
I need to wait. I need a you know, I
need to sleep. I'll wait till the
morning and then we'll go in the
morning."
From here you see you go right away.
Why? This is all good.
Because if
you don't travel during the night,
So
when when are they supposed to go? When
are they going to break things down?
When are they going to do this? This
Paroches breakage.
The walls. When are they going to break
it down? In the morning?
So now if we go back, I told you to
remember, go back 10 lines up. It says
that when
when
they broke down the walls of the
Paroches, automatically Korban becomes
Yotzei.
The Korban becomes possible. So as
Abaye, I don't understand something.
If you must wait until the morning, when
did you slaughter this animal?
Yesterday?
So he just became possible cuz it's
morning.
Forget about the fact that the animal
left the Beis Hamikdash.
It's morning and morning is called what?
Lino.
Forget about Yotzei. It's Lino. Here,
let me show you the picture.
There's two different things right by
you.
Where are they if I can find them? Oh,
here.
Lino is sleeping overnight, not the
Kohanim, but the the Korban.
And Yotzei is bring the breads out.
So
it says, "Why are you telling me
that
a a Chatas that gets stuck in limbo over
there, in the Mishkan when you break
down the Mishkan, the Chatas is stuck
there. Oh, it's Yotzei.
It's not Yotzei. It's Lino. It was there
overnight. Why? Because the only time
you can break down the Mishkan is
morning. So when you break down the
Mishkan, by the time you break it down,
you have a Chatas that was slaughtered
before. So Tosafos says, "Who says maybe
it's just Maybe it happened in the
middle of the day. Maybe Okay, fine.
Different Kashes that they have over
here."
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> Hold on a minute.
But that's his right. My year
you know. So you might not understand
something. Pshita. Everybody knows that
they travel during the day. Lo Yizaharu
Balayla Xiv. Go day and night.
By the same token
be a moment. When do you go during the
night? If you started in the day.
I'll give you a Mashal. It's not the
best Mashal, but that's the only one I
could think of. I just thought this
morning of a Mashal that was looking
I don't remember what it was.
>> [clears throat]
>> What was it?
Ugh. It slipped my mind. I had a Shmak a
Mashal that was
Mageia to Pesach.
Okay.
I thought about it for a second and it
flew out.
Great. So my Mashal that I want to say
right now is that a person that's on a
cruise ship, I think the Halacha is
maybe depending on the day you get on.
If he's on for a few days, he can remain
on the cruise ship on Shabbos.
Something like that. I'm not asking
Halachas.
I think that's what they say. But to get
on the cruise ship on Shabbos, that's a
problem.
Over here also.
It says in the Torah you go day and
night. Yeah, if you started out in the
right time, you went in the day, then
you go Oh, that's what I want to say.
Hold on.
I know what the Mashal was. The Mashal
was cuz I I was looking for it on
Pesach.
Where there's a marketplace today that
everybody The more you sell there, my
Shver said, "The more you sell,
the more people come to buy."
Right? Remember the Gemara?
I was saying and I was saying, "Oh, it's
like diamonds Diamond District in in
Machaneh Yehudah."
But I had a better one and I forgot what
it was.
Huh? Hold on.
Is it eBay? Not eBay.
I forgot my Mashal. Okay. So the second
part maybe will come to me.
Something that we do today that because
there's more people doing it
at that place, so it brings more
business and more people go there to do
it. Okay.
I don't know why it
hit me this morning, but that's what I
was thinking. But But this is my
interesting Mashal that
you go to So over here also you start in
the right time. You start in the day,
it extends to the night. But it doesn't
mean that you can start the trip at
night.
By the same token
be a moment. You start in the day.
But then you say
Maybe you can. So that's why Abaye comes
and says, "Look, I proved it for you
that you can start
during the night. You you can start in
the beginning of the night."
R' Meini.
So he said, "What did we say before?"
Also like 12, 13 lines 14 lines from
where we are. We said that a Zav and a
Metzora
are thrown out of the Machaneh because
the Kedusha of the Machaneh Levi'im and
Yisrael remained. So you got to get them
out of there. As soon as we start
moving, get them out so they don't get
trapped in a place that they shouldn't
be.
As the Gemara R' Meini two lines from
the bottom,
when you break down the Mishkan,
as so,
Who threw a Zav and a Metzora out of the
Kodesh Hakodashim? They're permitted to
go in even into the Holies of the Holy
over there. Even to the Machaneh
They could go in.
So certainly they're going to the
Machaneh Levi'im or Machaneh Yisrael.
Why are you telling me they have to
chase out the Zav and the Metzora?
R' Elazar
R' Meini R' Elazar is going to see on
Bais in a second. He holds it's Mutar
for the Metzora to go in there. And R'
Meini says it's also permitted.
>> [clears throat and cough]
>> The Sanya.
The Sanya came on Bais.
>> [snorts]
>> So the Halacha is
that T'mei Meisim, if you have a bunch
of T'mei Meisim in Klal Yisrael, 51% of
Klal Yisrael is T'mei Meisim,
they're allowed to go into the Beis
Hamikdash to do Korbanos. Why?
Is that?
Tumah Hutrah Betzibur.
So what if when Tumah Hutrah Betzibur, a
Metzora who doesn't have a Heter He's
talking about it's a different type of
Tumah. The only Tumah Hutrah Betzibur is
only for a dead person, for a Meis, not
for a Metzora. He decides he's going to
push himself in with everybody else and
go to the Beis Hamikdash.
>> [clears throat]
>> Is he Chayav Kares like he typically
would or not?
It says over here,
"How about the Tumah? You have a Korban
Pesach. That's Tumah Hutrah Betzibur."
Yochai Yochai, I think
that he's Chayav Kares for pushing
himself in.
The Shosheis T'mei Meisim Mishtachin.
Zav and Metzora Mishtachin.
If you send a regular T'mei Meis out of
there,
>> [clears throat]
>> something got stuck in my throat.
That's sick. Hashem Yishmor.
>> [cough]
>> Sorry.
If
the Metzora If the T'mei Meis has to
leave, so the Metzora has to leave. It
doesn't literally mean leave. A Metzora
always has to leave the Beis Hamikdash.
There's no exception to the rule. It
just means if the T'mei Meis doesn't
have to leave, this Metzora doesn't get
Kares. That's what it means. You don't
have to send him away. He doesn't get
Kares.
In other words, we we treat him lighter.
Now,
since we see that we treat a Metzora
lighter on Pesach,
the what? If
there's a situation where you let people
that just came from a funeral that means
the Beis Hamikdash. Why? Cuz the 51% of
Klal Yisrael, they all just went to R'
Ovadia Yosef's funeral. I I'm just
saying cuz I was there and they they
said there was about a million people
there. All Klal Yisrael goes to goes to
the funeral. So they're all Tamei. They
all went within four hours of the Tamei.
You let them go into the Beis Hamikdash.
So now you're being more lenient with
the Metzora. You say, "Listen, he goes
to the Beis Hamikdash, we're not going
to give him Kares. We're not going to
drive him crazy." So you see that we
treat him with leniency. So too,
when we knock down the Paroches with the
Mishkan and we say that a T'mei Meis can
go inside the Machaneh
We're going to be lenient with
the Metzora. That's why it's goes
according to R' Elazar. This R' Elazar
that says that we're lenient with him.
We're lenient with him also when it
comes to the breaking down of the
Mishkan. We're lenient with the Metzora.
T'mei Meisim Mishtachin and Zav and
Metzora Mishtachin. You know what?
They go to the Mikvah before. No, that's
not the T'mei Meisim.
I don't know. That I don't know.
>> [snorts]
>> Says the Mishna.
We
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We
have a three-way Machlokes. Very, very
simple.
One man says
you need
need with a K, you need the bread of the
lechem ha panim and the shulchan ha
rakem.
And you bake it
even outside of the azar, baking it
outside of the azar.
The other man says no.
Kneading and baking only inside the
azar, and then you have the middle man.
What does the middle man
say?
One and one. Kneading on the outside,
baking on the inside.
So, that's
the first sheet, the middle sheet. In
other words, one and one.
To knead it, it has to be it could be
even outside the azar, but to bake it,
baking only inside the azar. He
holds you do not push off Shabbos for
baking.
As we're going to see,
pushing off Shabbos has to do whether or
not it has kedusha or not. If
you have kedusha while you
Oh, that's what it is, base paggi. Okay.
That was We missed the base paggi thing
already?
Yeah, no, it's coming up. Okay.
It's coming up at the end of the mishna.
Um
if
baking the the challah, the bread, the
lechem
gives it kedusha
then you cannot bake it on Friday
because
it would be possible you know, by the
time the bread gets to Shabbos it had to
go through a night. A night is no good,
it slept overnight, it's possible.
If it doesn't
give it any kedusha, so then you could
bake it on Friday.
Rebbi Doymer
not true you have to knead the dough
inside the azar, certainly you have to
bake it inside the azar.
And
he was going to tell us this means he
got to be maser a kabbalah.
Still in the lechem ha panim
shares by azar or shares by base paggi.
You could do the baking, even the baking
you could do it in base paggi. What's
base paggi? Base paggi is within the
walls of Yerushalayim. Not these walls
that we see over here.
Probably less than that. But it means
within the walls
of Yerushalayim of those days.
In other words, not inside the Beis
Hamikdash. It's a big cooler, you're
allowed to bake the bread inside the
walls.
I have a question.
How am I going to see over there?
When is kasha? How could you do it
outside? There's no there's no psulina.
If the kli
the saron, remember we had that kli that
we spoke about, the saron
I don't think we have it here.
But the saron holds a certain amount of
flour. If it gives it kedusha, how can
you do it outside the Beis Hamikdash? As
soon as you put inside the kli, poof, it
becomes kodesh. Now it's outside of the
Beis Hamikdash, it becomes pasul.
So must be that that kli, cuz yeah, if
it if it's a kli that measures wine and
oil
that that gives it kedusha. But we have
a machlokes whether or not the solid kli
for flour gives it kedusha.
We're going according to the man who
says there's no kedusha.
But then you tell me that you should
bake it inside the the the
inside the Beis Hamikdash. Why? Inside
the azar. How am I going to see over
there?
It's kasha.
In other words, the oven
gives it kedusha. So what's the obvious
answer?
What's the question? First of all, you
tell me that a kli that holds dry goods
doesn't give it kedusha. Then you tell
me a second later that this kli called
the oven gives it kedusha. So you could
answer a simple answer.
An oven gives kedusha
and a measuring cup doesn't give
kedusha. That's what the Gemara is going
to say.
How am I going to see over there? It's
kasha.
Amar Rava or Rovo I
asked this question
to a very tough person that's tough like
metal.
Meaning says Rashi, he's very very
sharp.
His
name is Rav Shashes and he didn't have
an answer.
So the Gemara there and says that Rav
Shashes was very special and he had a
tremendous tremendous kias in Torah.
And over here Rashi says that he's very
sharp.
I like to say over the Brisker Rav all
the time. Brisker Rav says that in order
to say chiddushim in Torah, first you
have to know all of Shas with Rashi.
Then we can talk.
All of Shas.
Some people take them 67 years. You got
to know all of Shas with Rashi before
you could start saying chiddushim.
So he's very sharp. Not that oh, he's
very oh, he's a kias person, like in
Arabic. No, he's very sharp.
And another super interesting thing that
we have to verify 100% we got a a few uh
confirmations, but not a not total. That
in Sanz, the Rebbe gives a drasha on
this sugia, on on Rav Shashes, on this
kasha every year the same sugia,
different shabbos, takes him about an
hour and a half and they give out
kreplach and they call it the kreplach
shabbos, something like that. Kreplach
shabbos.
I don't know, it's often. I don't know.
We had somebody from the Hebrew shul,
yeah, maybe Torah kreplach, Torah I
don't know what. Fine.
I don't know exact exact details,
please.
Ask the Gemara next question. What was
the big kasha that Rav Shashes
or that they asked Rav Shashes? You're
right,
the measuring cup doesn't give kedusha.
But the the oven you even though it's
for dry goods, it gives kedusha.
A much stronger question. The what?
Baking on the inside.
Where do you bake the bread? Inside the
Beis Hamikdash.
Inside the azar. How am I going to see
over there?
Why are you doing it inside? Because
the the oven gives kedusha. If you did
it outside, it would be kodesh
and it would be pasul be yotzei.
And it doesn't
doesn't push push off Shabbos. Why?
He passed the leina. You got a big
problem.
If you cannot bake on Shabbos and the
oven gives it kedusha
so now the the the bread is a day old.
If the bread is a day old, it becomes
pasul because it slept overnight.
When did you make the bread? On erev
Shabbos, on Friday. You can't do it on
Shabbos cuz it doesn't push off Shabbos.
You have to do it on Friday.
And if it gives it kedusha like you told
me it gives it kedusha, then
it should become pasul leina.
So
what? And this is Rava. Maybe the guy
the guy is Rava over there and Rava over
here, I don't know.
>> [clears throat]
>> Over here we asked Rav Shashes this
question. I asked him this question. I
asked him this question.
>> [clears throat]
>> The sharp one, a very sharp person.
Rav Shashes.
And he didn't have what to answer.
Amar Rav Ashi
Let me take a stab at this, he says.
My kasha, but he doesn't say it like
this. He says, my kasha.
There was a
Bruce from Beis HaTalmud, I think it
was.
There was a acharon that wrote a sefer.
And he wrote in the sefer and Rebbi
Bruce was reading it and she wrote
that the question of the Rebbi Akiva
Eiger doesn't even start.
So Rebbi Bruce was so upset, he took the
sefer like threw it on the floor or
something. He says, how could you write
such a s- How could you write something
that not even doesn't even start?
Want to say I have an answer? Okay.
Say the Rebbi Akiva
Eiger's kasha.
Doesn't start. He had a big tie on it.
Remember a whole whole shmooze, he spoke
to the mechaber about it. Why he wrote
that, etc. He said, okay, fine.
So
He's trying to trying to explain it. It
doesn't even start. It's kasha mamash. I
wanted to show that it's not a kasha at
all. If I would say the answer I wanted
to show
How could Rebbi Akiva Eiger you think
Rebbi Akiva Eiger made such a mistake?
Fine.
My kasha.
It's
funny that he was able to like he went
through a sefer of
a acharon acharon.
You know
So the Gemara my kasha, says Rebbi Ashi,
I don't understand the kasha at all.
The mokem is reason. To me it seemed
almost like a day old, but he says like
mamash my kasha.
What does it mean that
um that you break the you bake the bread
inside the azar? No, you bake the bread
outside. So why does he say inside? The
mokem is reason. These are people that
work inside. They're very very careful
that it shouldn't become chometz. You
got to be careful not to make it
chometz.
So we have a video.
Kohanim's reason, they're careful,
they're fast. I don't know, he didn't
say fast more than his reason.
>> [music]
>> Look at that thing. It's like this it's
a chaim of a sefer Torah but made out of
gold.
What's going on?
I woke up tired today. Tired, [music]
huh?
Then you'll see what tired is.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay.
For some people it's not even a joke.
Some of us who grew up in Bnei Brak
Yeah, father Rav Ashi Bruce he sometimes
the guy is pedusa, like it's a joke. He
was off. Why?
Makes no sense.
What are you you're careful about
chometz. So think about it. In a matzah
bakery, you're going to do half the line
or very, very super market over from
here we're briskets. From here, we don't
care at all. Makes no sense. If you have
to care, you have to care from the
moment the the the dough is mixed
to the oven. You can't say, "Oh, I'm
only careful over here."
Mano shach, you have to have a reason.
>> [clears throat]
>> If by the baking, maybe that's the
hardest job.
I think it was it. We get no.
What is it called? The matzah I don't
know. What is it? The matzah Is that
sticks to it? Yeah.
Yeah.
He have a reason. This is why you have a
reason. Mano shach. If you have to be
[clears throat] very careful when you
bake it, so you have to be very careful
when you're kneading it. You have a
reason.
And if you don't need to be careful when
you're making the dough, I feel not I
feel not me living in You don't need to
be careful when you're baking it.
I don't know what you're doing.
We don't like your matzah.
Says the matzah. We learn the mission.
Call my name. I'm him. I like to review
the
review the says kneading the dough and
baking the dough must be done inside the
Azara. The mission argues that they both
could be outside of the Azara. Says the
Gamara.
I'm a rebel.
Omar Rebbe Abahu
said I had a lot of issues.
This is the schmuck of my soul. I don't
know. That's so schmucky actually.
The story is so famous story, but the
outcome was terrible.
David Amel was running away from Saul.
And he didn't have any food. He was
collapsing. And he got to know if you're
a kind of this We know that the Mishkan
was in Noiv and then afterwards in Givon
and this is the reason.
Noiv was the city of Kohanim. And he got
there and he told them Saul told me to
come here and take some bread. He spoke
to Ahimelech.
Give me some food. Give me some bread.
So, he ended up eating from the lechem
uponim. He was a Yisrael.
How is he eating from the lechem uponim?
So,
the He tells He tells them He tells
Ahimelech who dare call
Something here is weekdayish. After you
make this the kelli. Even though this
bread is going to become college with a
kelli.
What does it mean?
So, that's the machlokes. Rebbe
Abahu
said he knew the call of the lay. Rebbe
Abahu says
he found them. He came there on a
weekday. He came to let's say on on a
Friday. I'm a lewho dare call you today.
You're baking this on a Friday. After
you make this the kelli. I don't
understand.
It's going to become kadosh in the oven.
When you put it in the oven, it becomes
kadosh. And if it becomes kadosh on
Friday,
it possibly be leino. You don't have
bread for Shabbos kadosh.
It's already possel. It's overnight.
Rebbe Shimon says such a thing with
Rebbe Shimon argues is no.
David Amel showed up on a Shabbos. I'm a
lewho call me today.
What are you doing here? Shouldn't you
do this on a Friday? Why are you doing
this on a Shabbos? Why are you baking on
a Shabbos?
Maybe the time of kadosh. If the oven
gave it dusha, I understand why you
don't bake it on Friday because it would
become possel cuz it was overnight and
it's possel leino.
But the oven doesn't give it dusha. What
gives it dusha? Shulchan Amel kadosh.
So, bake it on Friday and don't put it
on to the shulchan until Shabbos. And
only then the clock starts ticking.
Here's the video.
Noiv.
I don't know. This was there.
Saul ended up killing all the Kohanim
there because he gave him food.
Terrible tragedy.
So, that's small.
The Shulchan says that he ate all of
bread.
Says the Gamara.
We have matzah matzah Shabbos. We have a
feeling of kinu. What? David Amel found
them baking bread. What says the first
in the possel? I don't know what kadosh
He gave him bread as kadosh. He know he
had lechem. They didn't have any have
any other bread. Kim lechem uponim. How
much are we looking at
They only had the bread that came off of
the table. Now, the bread that came off
the table of the shulchan is a week old.
So, what do you mean they
found them baking bread?
Am I dare call the call of the lewho?
So, what do you mean that it was the
weekday? How could I call the lewho?
This is what he meant.
Like lechem came lechem uponim lechem
ashem.
They told David Amel. There's only this
bread that's that that was taken off the
table off the shulchan in front of
ashem.
I'm a lewho. So, he tells them Let me
buy a high degree of You
know the call of the lewho. This bread
that comes off the table
There's no meela. If a Kohain eats this
bread, he's allowed to eat the bread.
So, once the Kohain is allowed to eat
the bread, so there's no meela. It's not
considered kadosh anymore.
It has a lesser dusha.
And the meela wouldn't be such a big
issue for a Yisrael to eat this bread
because it It's not doesn't have meela.
It's also, but not as strong.
I feel like
I don't need to be clean. But even if
it's the most holy of holy, it's
supposed to go on the shulchan. I will
lay the lechem Give it to him in third
person. Oh, it was Give it to me to eat.
The shulchan dough.
I He's saying about himself.
>> [clears throat]
>> So, how does the possel get in?
So, he says Rashi over here.
Shulchan Amel bolmos. He had a disease
called bolmos. I don't know what he
said. Mission was not mission bolmos. If
somebody has bolmos, in other words,
he's starving. I don't know what he
said.
Until his eyes light up. I don't know
what he said. Even on Yom Kippur.
This is what we've seen in the Shulchan
Amel. Why do you have to eat all of it?
I don't know. I don't know. You know You
know what one bread is? How do you eat
one? One is 10 lbs.
So, he ate 120 lbs worth of uh
So, yeah. Maybe it's a good moment. You
know this. Call upon him. Oh, you're
saying
why would he have the right to eat all?
If a person can eat 12 breads, then you
don't understand. Cuz
without Bolmos means he He has to keep
on going until
until his body tells him to stop. His
body didn't say stop.
I was just as a side note, the word
Bolmos,
I'm pretty sure comes from bulimia. Same
thing as bulimia.
I mean, they're related. Bolmos is
starvation. It has to do with
uh
eating. In the Halacha, it says the
opposite. They ate too much. They got
very sick.
Yeah. When a person doesn't eat at all
and then he you
you let him eat. Yeah.
That's why yeah. Rebbe Yehuda Rebbe
Shimon big market.
So, the machlokes says the Gamara is
only machlokes in what happened uh
traditionally. What the tradition was.
What the Messiah is.
I can have me. In other words, it does
the oven Is the oven a kadosh the bread
or not? That's the shaila. That's the
machlokes.
I can have me
What does it mean heavy rug? You should
always be used to saying this. The
word
Rebbe Shimon said that you should You
should say this that there's no dusha
You're allowed to You're allowed to make
the bread inside the Azara. You're
allowed to make it outside of the Azara.
In other words, that's the tradition.
That's what it means Rebbe Shimon.
Shimon So, that's the machlokes whether
or not the oven gives it dusha or not.
Boys, I I'll see you in Eretz Yisrael
from the Amel Shimon. Have a wonderful
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