Daily Gemarah - Wednesday Mar 6, 29 Adar I

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listening when you're absorbing there's no I you can't yeah I'm talking consciously you know you're just like glued you're just like listening you're not in theal a great a lot of thank you for coming huh okay we going to land in gamor going to finish till the Miss [Music] today they not they were not I don't know doesn't they don't uh I guess they did their thing you know usually usually we Jewish people are not very forgiving so if somebody does something like this I hear you they be St easily too jealous of yeah it's called the DNA when you get to the level of DNA it's the whole in every cell is the copy instructions for saliva it's indivisible huh the whole the there's a fascinating that is teaching and two come and they ask a question one asks about what he's learning let's say learning the other one starts asking about carbus so he says you first answer the person who's asking the the topic and then you can go to the other person there has to be a sister that's what says say no you can go to the other one first why this is a the would always say this I heard from probably 100 times if you get to the DNA yeah thek in the trunk my plot in the trunk yeah Caro yeah it says also the same thing by him it says that same thing B wanted to die and uh because of some sin he did whatever it is you know sins whatever relative to their level so it was taken away from him so what happened instead he became the author of The it says in the Beast yph he writes in a saer he was hoping to dial that's was his hope and it was taken away from him what was his punishment he became the author of the one of the most important Works in Jewish history till today not one of the most important the whole Jewish World follows the you can't be a Jew without the you can't live like a Jew same thing if he would have got killed kesem few people would know itbe would be a story but that's it today ifone it's it's also fascinating what's projected to others is usually a form of Detachment from self and that's painful it's painful doesn't want it he doesn't want to detach from himself way it's not I don't want to be famous because the headache it's just it's a betrayal of everything like what I'm now I'm now a performer basically I don't want to be a performer yeah what did they say they say from that the you see people that running away from cover and the cover doesn't chase them so he says cuz they keep on turning around you know when your kid your kid runs away from you but he keeps on turning around to make sure tati is there so he said they're running away from cover but they keep on turning around that the covered should be this is that that cover doesn't chase [Music] you I had an idea I want to bring it up here we're finishing now till the miss which is where the next the next till the end of the per is complex which we should learn but it's a whole different uh whole different reality I was thinking since PES is coming we should maybe from Tomorrow move to which is the last per of and deals with all the Practical of the S and shab and I think it would be a good idea no always okay so we'll announce it it the thing is it's 20 blot so uh to finish it before PES will be quite a feat unless maybe we could learn on Fridays okay we'll figure it out so so B that's what we'll do so the garus this is the I just want to make sure the garus we have okay is a very very uh it's a beautiful beautiful ped and it's also very practical it's it's the the science of the S even though that's at the end of the per but the whole per is very you know it's the whole thing the whole before that thises it's a different different type different type of gar okay today's is a hard piece of gamar just for the record okay so we are onim Bim B uh right middle of the page the line starts I know like 10 or 15 lines from the top right that's where we are uh we are holding okay what is it what is the background noise okay okay come learning and then you could dance afterwards I think tomorrow I don't want to delay it cuz I want to is a big per and really the the of the S is at the end of the P so I want to try to move it's a different type of pic it's just very practical it's everything we do today it's just a different type of P gamar okay so let's recall what happens here taught us in the mishna on that there were no clocks so they needed to notify the what's going on with ER PES so they used to take right two pieces of bread from a carbon TAA because a carbon TAA came with 40 pieces of bread and those two pieces of bread were kets and they were disqualify they were meaning you weren't allowed to eat them even if you wanted to and they used to place them on top of one of the benches on top of the roof of one of the benches on the harabas because there were many benches around and around and they chose one of them to put it on this elevated space where everybody could see it and you knew as long as there's two kalas up there you can eat kets one is taken away you can't eat kets anymore because the beginning of the fifth hour but you could still gift your kets feed your kets to your animals sell your kets and then when both kalas were taken away when the second one was taken away you knew it's time to burn the that's the what Ruda taught us what they used to do on the harabas every single AR P to notify the large crowds what hour ER of PES it is so they should know how to behave so one piece of bread was taken away you knew that it's approximately 10:00 meaning the beginning of the fifth hour the second bread taken away you knew it's around 11:00 the beginning of the 6th hour no eating no benefiting and time to go home and burn the kets that you own you have either from yesterday's KET from today's breakfast or whatever it is you got to burn your so the gar wanted to understand what made these two breads disqualified why they pule what what's wrong with them what happened and the answer that we explained was told us something very interesting P you couldn't bring a carbon ta why couldn't you bring a carbon ta because there's no time to eat it every carbon has a prescribed time for eating a carbon TI you can eat that day and the next night but since 10 pieces of bread are KS so in middle of the day you have to stop eating them 11:00 a of PES you can't eat anymore so they didn't let anybody bring a carbon TI the a of p in the morning because they were almost intentionally causing bread of carbon is to be burnt the meat you could eat throughout the day you can also eat throughout the night you can have it in your seder table but the but the bread you won't be able to leave because it's so you're going to they're causing you to burn it and you don't do that we don't initially try to take something holy and cause it to be destroyed unless we have to so they didn't allow nobody brought a carbon on a of PES and of course PES also not because you can't have on P but even P 7 in the morning you couldn't bring a carbon tider why because you just have a few hours to eat the bread then it would be very difficult and so much of the bread would be burnt and therefore they didn't allow you to do the carbon and by the way we still see this in our Min today where do we see it P you remember the the fact that they didn't bring a carbon TI to PES we don't say m you'll see the S it says PES don't say Mis why not and the answer is because m is basically our commemoration our verbal replica of the carbon M it's a Thanksgiving we don't bring a carbon today we'll say but every day we say m but not p in the morning because in the morning there was no carbon even though you could still have so as a result of that we take out M so when did everybody bring their carbon ta if you lived in you could bring it whenever you want but if you didn't live in it was hard to travel so you brought it you gim a day before so there was so many carbon and not enough people to eat the bread cuz it's 40 and 10 of them 30 mats of 10 of them that have to be eaten by the owner of the carbon or by his friends family colleagues Etc poor people I mean you could give it to anybody who's T who's pure who's not t and there was not enough enough people to eat and as a result of that you would say the supply was more than the demand and as a result of that the breads stayed over was was simply too much to eat so they passed their date that day and the next night as I said carbas so to speak expire after a certain time they expire and they're not edible anymore it leaves a certain time and it's not anymore edible to eat it's edible but spiritually it's not edible and you have to burn it it's called ner so when er p in the morning came you had all these breads to burn not because they were even mat but because you couldn't eat them anymore it was nicer so they took two of those kalas which were anyway POS and they used them as a Simon as a signal as a display sign to let people know when to burn their own and then they would burn these two pieces of bread which they anyway had to burn for two reasons first of all it's and second of all because it's because it's left over from the carbon that's what explains that's why they wouldn't take they wouldn't take koser why because then you should eat them why burn them these were being burnt why e but they didn't have kosher because there were no fresh kalas today because P you wouldn't BR a carbon the last carbon was brought yesterday and if those kalas stayed over till the next morning it's called Bina l means they they they stayed they were they they they remain throughout the night and once morning comes they're pule they're disqualified that's you don't need mat you don't need of P right but the eating of the carbon would be that that we don't have a problem the eating of the carbon would be that you understand but the but here you can't eat it because it's it's nicer it's left over first taste not really you can ask if you want you can ask yeah on the 13th they also knew that some of them were going to be but it wasn't liketh surely to be right right you try you try to get it eaten on the 13th you probably asked people but it was just common that not everything would be done and there wereas that were possible so they had these the name of has a different explanation he says I disagree with this idea that these two were they were in other words I don't believe that they had to leave over they had to use two kalas that were left over from yesterday's carbon their date expired so to speak and therefore they were pule and they had to burn them there's no need to say that you could say that the two the two L that they put up were kosher they were not yet disqualified if they were not disqualified while you're putting them up here and leaving them till the sixth hour when they're going to be burnt if they're kosher eat them you don't do this to K so we'll soon see why but it wasn't because they're not ker they were ker still they wouldn't eat them because they couldn't eat them we'll soon see why and therefore and therefore R says it's not like said that these breads were already destined to be burnt you can already burn them in the morning because they're nicer because they're pule that's not the case these breads actually were not yet supposed to be burnt why CU they were ker still there was a reason you couldn't eat them but they weren't destined to be burnt and therefore they used them as a sign for and they burnt them at the beginning of the sixth hour why does to say what said it seems like a it's a beautiful V because you gim this and there was so many so one way you could say it is the says this he feels that the previous explanation is wrong because according to they basically left noer around for a few hours without burning it and that's a hazard to leave ner when you have to burn it in the morning is a hazard that's why he disagrees that they had to burn it in the morning ACC they had to burn it in the morning but they did not because they wanted to use it as a sign for the people it could beani disagrees with that and says that since ner has to be burnt you're not allowed to just leave it intact until the sixth hour why because somebody may come to stumble and eat it then it's an isus burn all the no except for two right right okay okay we we'll soon see we soon according to no it's not oh we'll soon see we'll soon see what he means you will soon see what he means but according to we understand that there's no because these breads were actually supposed to be eaten by you and they just were left over so it's not Ma you have to burn it say you're saying okay we'll soon see in a moment okay we'll soon see in a moment another way of learning R is and this says this RAV says is that the would not allow a carbon to become nicer and therefore says I don't believe that every year they would find breads that were pule they would would not allow it to be nier by hook or by crook they would eat up those kalas and if you got to eat a little extra you eat a little extra that's what says that's a very interesting interpretation says says they would not leave the noiser in the morning without being burnt because it's a it's a stumbling block says another issue says no the issue is doesn't hold that the would allow there to be noer it can happen but it's not something you could rely on annually and say don't worry there's going to be going to be nicer and therefore says I completely disagree with your whole explanation I believe that these were they were not ready to be burnt because if they were ready to be burnt they should have been burnt right away or I don't believe that there would be noiser that's ready to be burned these were if they were why don't you eat them that's what the is going to discuss now but it's not the ncer type of that you spoke about that was not the issue the issue was not this was left over from yesterday's carbon and the date expired and as a result of that a Jew is not allowed to eat it anymore it has to be burnt because it went after the prescribed limit that the tah gives to eat the carbon that's not the case what is the case then in the it says what do you mean they weren't you're telling me the says the answer is the problem is not ner the problem is actually the opposite ner means you did everything and you can eat it and you just left it for too long till the time expired this is the opposite problem the process didn't begin yet means that the carbon the animal was not slaughtered yet the beh that comes with the was not slaughtered and therefore you can't eat this what does this mean let's explain why would you have it because so why would you have it excellent the system was when a person consecrated an animal for a carbon Tida I bought an animal said this is my carbon tid then I also consecrate the bread the flower for my for the carbon right this is going to the B for the carbon it becomes holy this is called what do we mean byas M in the B you always have to differentiate between two types of sanctity and means its monetary value is Holy means the very entity the Goof the body is Holy what's the difference the difference is let's say I donate a watch to the bik a watch can't go on the M what do you do with a watch a watch is a monetary contribution to the bik they could sell it and have money that's called kadas m it's holy the watch is Holy but what's holy not the watch itself the monetary value meaning I could come tomorrow and say o this is my Z's watch I don't want to give it away to the m and I redeem it I give them the money and I take it and the value the Holiness is now goes to the money and the watch becomes that's called anything you donate to theik you donate Lumber you donate money you donate food you donate your house whatever you want you could donate your house it's called you give away your house it's and therefore you could redeem it it's not that the thing itself becomes essentially sacred you're not putting it on the you're not putting a house on the you're not putting a car on the you're donating the car like people donate a car to an organization they donate you don't put the car in the Sho on the M it's the monetary value then there's something called means something that's actually going on the altar or like a be the animal which when you make it you say this is a carbon it's not just you're donating the monetary value of the animal the animal itself becomes kades and you know what you can't redeem it there's nothing you can do to redeem it the sanctity now permeates the very essence of the animal it's not the value of the animal that you consecrated it's not the $100 that the animal is the th000 that the animal cost you that you're donating so give $1,000 the animal itself has K there's no pidion unless it becomes a BAL if it becomes blemished and it's not fit for the M then it lost it because it can't be a carbon anymore but as long as it remains suitable to be M it's called this yeah this joins the carbon so it's going to reach a state of K but when only after the after the animal is slaughtered so when I Sanctified this bread and initially for the carbon it's k m and I could redeem it if this flower is worth 50 bucks I can give $50 and take it after I Slaughter the animal for the carbon that's when the assumes now it goes into a different category what happens now now first of all it's n Bina if Bina means if it stays overnight it becomes disqualified why cuz it's it's not only M moment you could leave if I take flow and I donate it to the it could be there for a year the moment it becomes a carbon now it's sensitive to a bunch of stuff it's completely sensitive it it doesn't lose doesn't lose only M right like can be for money why should change I mean you can use it for other things just something that you're eating so you can be to no yeah just like the B you're not M the whole the the parts of it you're the the fat the rest you eat yourself the too the right a fist full of flour that gets burned and then you eat yeah so not in this case the had to burn completely on the like a carbon but this carbon was not a carbon OA us to break bread there was the there's the part that the Cen Burns but then you eat oh so that makes con breaking bre so therefore so there's the concept of after there's a now if it becomes T for example right you can't redeem it anymore when does If I give flour just with money and it becomes T redeem it but once it's becomes T you can't redeem it anymore you have to burn it once it stays over the night and in the morning I can't say oh you know what I'll redeem it there's nothing to redeem anymore it's that's why it was affected this way so therefore therefore you need a the slaughtering of the carbon in order to make it that's what you need after the of the carbon this now becomes a of that carbon now after you Slaughter the animal you have to sprinkle the blood you Slaughter the animal you took the blood in a you went to the m and you sprinkle the blood after you sprinkle the blood that's when you can eat everything you can eat the animal and you can eat the which becomes M when you can eat the Flesh of the animal you can eat the kalus of the carbon after you sprinkle the blood so the are like an accessory to the carbon itself to the animal itself before I slaughtered the animal before I sprinkle the blood I can't eat the just like I can't eat the Bea before I slaughtered and sprinkle the blood so he says that's what happened here basically you had the they were holy right so he says so why you calling them if they were they weren't ncer he says the reason that they were pule is not that they were pule essentially they had to be burnt they were pule in the sense that you couldn't eat them because you didn't Slaughter the animal yet because you didn't Slaughter the animal yet so therefore what are you supposed to do with this bread it's a of PES in the morning you didn't Slaughter the animal what do you do with this bread now right that's the issue said what made it possible was it was nicer which RAB didn't like because that would mean either that the cause something to be nicer or that you leave noiser intact without burning it he says no that wasn't the issue the issue now is not the concept of noiser the issue is a different concept the carbon was not brought yet because the carbon was not brought means not that it's pel that it's unworthy bread you can't eat it you can't eat it yet because the carbon wasn't slaughtered that's what happened so what did they do with it they took the bread and they used it as a Simmon for and then they burnt it by the sixth hour why why did they make the bread to begin with if they know that they cannot bring this why would they bread would bre good question wait one moment and it will be clear but I want you to take a look inash yes converts it from and after this you can eat it no carbon could be eaten before you finish sprinkling the blood the sprink of the blood finished the AV connected to God and now you could go uh do your thing you did you're done now go now go enjoy that was the system you slaughtered you accepted the blood you brought it to the the sprinkled it right and you're good you're done the was now done the the sprinkle of the blood culminates and now you go eat and enjoy all the carbon is that way besides a carbon what you didn't eat and then you still have to burn the fats after you sprinkle the blood you have to burn the fat I'm say it's because the right that's whats it yeah so the makes and then you have to finish the and then you can eat it here there was no yet there was no let's see rash who explains this interesting even though this didn't have a serious like L it's not that it was a carbon that stayed over the night and it's no and you have to burn it that's not the actually says there was no since you have no way of eating it why because there was no even though it still needs means it has to lose its form which means let's say I have bread that there was no no on this bread there was absolutely no what would be the the would be I can't burn it why can't I burn it because there's no nicer yet it's not nicer it's just not yet edible to eat until there would be I would mean it would lose its form and then you would burn it but that's not the Cas here it's in the morning it didn't lose its form so therefore you could put it on the platform on theas and you'll burn [Music] it they have only when you Slaughter the does the bread become holy the moment you said I have to bring this bread for my carbon it's holy but not it's not so holy that if it gets T you can't redeem it or touches it means somebody who went to the mik but night didn't come yet so he's not fully pure through and when they sprinkle the blood you can eat it just like the itself the bread is dependent on the animal it has the same status after the result of sprinkling the blood you can eat the B this is what happened now comes the million doll question one word you have bread that's holy so why you burning it why you using it as and you're going to burn your animal and eat the bread I don't understand the animal in the morning sprinkle the blood and eat the Kal I don't understand what you're doing why are we allowing them to just display the Kal till beer you could do the right thing you could sh it and eat it the way you have to eat it you know to bring it oh so you're asking what is the carbon right so the question is that's what it's says what happened why didn't they sh it like you said before if they knew they're not going to sh it why did you end up in this mess when did this happen the guy did it youness you're not supposed to do he did it yesterday why didn't they sh the animal what happened why did this happen where did this debacle happen from a person Sanctified bread for a carbon tider when did he do this and he Sanctified an animal so he did this yal in the morning why did he do y in the morning when nobody ising it yeah he probably had to speak to somebody consult so he didn't do it then he did it yesterday so if he did it yesterday what happened why didn't animal why we left here with bread like what happened here where did where did this whole where did this whole M happen so the gor answers interestingly means it was lost the B ran away now the interesting thing is that they rely that this is going to happen every year because they needed a cimon for p so the answer obviously is that there was there was such a balagan that they knew that there's going to be an animal that's going to get lost was that animal specific for that carbon also and maybe disg carbon one of that one of the carbonis had to be that a carbon so the says one second one second bring another carbon and it the animal got lost so you replace it so he says no thear the person said this is and this bread is bread for this one so what if the bread got lost you could replace the bread if the be got lost the if the to itself got lost you can't replace the B with this bread you'll have to bring new bread if I have a be which is the primary entity here and the bread got lost even though I said no problem you don't have to get rid of the B you bring new bread and you do the carbon but if it was the other way around the bread remained the B got lost so I need a new B for my carbon to that's true I need it but I need new bread I can't use the bread that was dedicated for the be the other be for this one why [Music] myn and you can redeem it and replace yeah you could so you basically redeem it and then reic it for a different second we'll get to there one second go you're right all the gamar is saying is that you can't use this for another animal why because the comes because of the the doesn't come because of the in other words the the bread the 40 loaves of bread are T they're subservient to the animal the animal is the primary component of the carbon once you establish that this belongs for this animal once you did that this cannot now be joined with another B it so to speak belongs Hally it belongs to this beh so therefore if this B is losten I can't do anything with this what I have to do is redeem the very good get the money the is now the is regular bread anybody can eat it and I take the money and I buy a new B cuz I don't have a b or I buy new bread whatever it is same bread buy the same bread would be the same yeah if you want but again if you have a new animal you you will you will okay very good we we just we just answered why they can't bring another beh you're saying there was the the beh was lost he says okay so if be was L bring another be so he says another be won't help because this you still can't eat with that beh why cuz this Le belong to another so this is not edible as a carbon and therefore it's pule in that sense so you could burn it I you'll bring another animal you're GNA have to bring different bread since you're going have to bring different bread so what do you do with this bread this bread belongs to theik and it's so you use it as a Simon and then you'll burn it you can't leave it over P why you could get it it got lost the got lost they got a new animal but this bread they couldn't use they got a new animal we asked why is this bread becoming a whole show scene it's a carbon just take care of it why are the doing this this is bread for carbon just do what you have to do with it right that was the question so the answer is cu it wasn't shed the wasn't he said so so sh didn't e it so he says cuz it got lost so he says if it got lost so bring another animal let's say I I'm a carbon and it gets lost so I bring another animal I mean what am I supposed to do I bring another M it what's the problem he says I could bring another animal maybe I did bring another animal but I couldn't use this bread anymore so this bread is k m it's so I'm G to have to burn it right it's Hector so what do we do with it we use it we take two of these Kal and we use it as a Simmon for the benefit of the public there's nothing else I can do with it it's not ncer I don't have to burn it it's not noer redeem you could have redeem it huh you could where would they take the first one off after first war they take one 10:00 they would take one 11:00 they would take both they would burn it an hour later the other eight they just burnt what what are they supposed to do outside outside they didn't want to put 10 kalas on the platform cuz nobody know what hit them put 10 kalas then take one away so now I have to start counting nine 10 it's min they couldn't you understand that would be more confusing than anything else oh there's nine there's eight no there's seven there's nine or actually in this case you it's good 10 is good for very good you have so they had to have two because two is very obvious there's two and now there's one it's very clear if you start putting 10 it's very hard to see especially if you're far away you're not right there this is for the whole to see I don't understand redeem the bread and let it become what are you what are you doing what are you what are you torturing this poor kala for let it become let people do whatever they want there's nothing to do with this bread it can't go with other beh because it was already consecrated to one beh the other beh was brought with new bread so redeem this bread let it become hen let people eat it let people sell it let them do what are you doing redeem it let it the money will why are you taking these poas and just turning them into the spectacle and having them burned by beer and again we have to remember that they were very sensitive to just burning food for no reason especially when it was HEC this was hcsh so why are you causing hcsh to be burned for beer there's no reason for it it's true we can't eat it because the carbon wasn'ted and we don't have the carbon it got lost I got it so there's an it's it let it go and then everybody can eat it and you don't cause heish to become burnt for no reason no they didn't do that they use these kalas to place them up there so you're not redeeming them you're leaving them under and they're going to go till the sixth hour and then you have to burn them have to burn of still people eating surus coming out with 40 breads giving them out on that time was so so much bread well sometimes people will redeem it just for the sake take a look in Rashi the second from the wide line it's not just a question of bread being scarce and in this case there was no scarcity of bread because the carbon had a lot of surplus perhaps but the problem is this is it's not but it's still HEC you don't take something of Hees and cause it to be burnt unless you have to if it stays till the you have no choice it's you have to do even you're not to have what don't buy it then they're going to have to burn it an hour later they don't have to burn it they can eat it they can sell it they have an hour they're doing it on the 14th in the morning there's not much time to you're redeeming it and eating it there's not much time well you already they already had it 6:00 in the morning they already had it last night remember we we established that the TOA was brought yesterday it's just yesterday you lost your carbon you lost your uh you lost your Bima so you already yesterday you could have we're talking not we're not talking about redeeming it on your dollar we're talking about redeeming it on your G how the value for that EST when's so ofus you're right it may be very cheap it may be very cheap which is makes it easier for people to redeem so we're talking about redeeming it on and there's plenty of time to eat it you can gift it to somebody you can give it to somebody else you can't sell this to a guy thank you if it was redeemed could you sell it to a guy I'm not sure you're allow it cuz pan he it has something I have to look by for sure not by could be not I think not but you can eat it yourself remember the Redemption would beim because what do you do with this bread this bread you can't use for a carbon tider right the B is lost so what do I do with it redeem it Let It Go no they didn't redeem it they left it till the morning and then they burnt it maybe like they St letting it to was they're using it for something not to be is a serious thing even though it's used it's not like but find something else find another thing to put on the platform I don't know let somebody do a magic show find something else you're taking if you have to burn it I understand that's anyway burning it it's nice but he you don't have to burn it so your M causing Hector to be destroyed for what for s find another Simon I understand if you're any way burning it it's a good thing and it's so it's actually a gaka Simon in other words the best Simon is right why did they use they couldn't find something else put two apples the answer is if I look at two apples I don't necessarily remember kets it's apples if I see two big kalas ofets inflated kalas and it's of P they take away a means I got to start cleaning up the mess got to get they take away both in other words it's very to have as aimon because it's a direct it's a direct reminder so what's really thinking he says you're right it's something something else happened they did Slaughter the carbon n they slaughter the carbon so so eat it o what happened was before they finished sprinkling the blood the blood Spilled Out and therefore this bread is never going to become M to eat let's remember when does the Flesh of the carbon become M to eat and the only after and Z because it spilled out before they finish the AA of the dam so s the animal and S the bread remain forbidden to consume forever because the AV was not done and it's it's already holy the be is dead after the it's a carbon it's not it's not redeemable and the is not redeemable because it's after so now what are you supposed to do because of this you're never going to be able to eat it you can't redeem it anymore so therefore they said you can already use the kalas for a Simon even though it's not ner remember it's not noer it's not left over right it never became M and therefore you're not M to burn it now you would only be to burn it after I when it loses its form or it goes through the night but that didn't happen yet so you wouldn't have to burn it nonetheless nonetheless so what's the probability of such an event they're saying every year every year and and and and if they spill it you know usually the K has a certain shape you can't spill it completely there will be something left over unless no before he finish before he finish was not like that was something like this so even if they there something remain sprink how many on see let's see rash let's see [Music] rash here are the key words there's nothing you could do anymore meaning you can't redeem it it's one second so why does say they're not they're just like why says because really they don't have to be burnt yet they first have to lose their form in this case where the bread is not noer but it's also not edible because the blood got spilled do you have to burn it or not you're not let to eat it so when it loses its form then you burn it it's called say if the disqualification happened in the Goof itself for example you left over the meat after the time you it has to be burnt it became T it became pel BINA the flesh itself the bread itself got you have to burn it right away like or t what if the was in the blood or in the owner then then it first have to lose its form it has to go away it has to lose its form like bread that Los form and then it gets burnt there's two types of right let's say I'm mve the carbon everything is good I sprinkle the blood and then right and then I take the meat and I want to take it home to eat yeah and somebody dies in the house right and the meat becomes T that's called the meat is T or the bread becomes T so I have to burn it right away or it's t Bina it's p mean it stays over the night so this is called that you have to burn right away what if the p is not in the food itself the p is in the blood for example the blood got spilled out the carbon itself the meat or the bread is kosher or BM the old becomes T so he now can't eat it now you don't have to burn it right away cuz that itself didn't become T you have to wait till I you to burn huh no you have to wait anyway right you have to wait that's why he calls it that's why he calls itus why because you're not supposed to burn it's a very interest that's why actually is being because you don't have to burn it right away it's not nier says it's ner so he calls it but since this you don't have to burn burn right away right in fact you have to wait till the night passes to burn I means the form changes or even if you leave it through the night usually there's a change already in the morning the bread is not the same bread or the meat remember it's not refrigerated or frozen so if you leave it through the night it's already a little bit of I so you could burn it the next morning but since that didn't happen so therefore it's still called and because it's called says it's not the same like noer but because it's not edible so what would they do they would use it as a sign for and they would burn it in the beginning of the sixth hour because it was and you have to burn what what status does it does it AC in the morning so that's that's we don't bring a carbon TI on the on the on the 14th we bring Carbon on the 13th so supposedly this happened on the 13th if this happened on the 13th so then there was already in the morning so you would anyway have to burn it so it's like what's the difference says it's nicer and you say it was so that's that's uh that's that's a little sh so it seems like says that you have to say that didn't hold that you didn't bring a carbon on the 14th in other words he held that sometimes you did and it could be because Rabani feels that they never allowed ner they would never allow forer so maybees that they didn't always allow all the it would work cuz he didn't feel remember we expended didn't agree with because he didn't feel that uh you would allow ner would allower so maybe he felt that sometimes they were Mo on your if this happened on your and the blood spilled then you wouldn't have to burn the Kal until the next morning after I but because it's not edible so they burnt it earlier with the and they used it as a Simmon for and they weren't destroying Kim because this is any way going to a place of Destruction there's nothing you're going to do with this bread you can't redeem it so there's nothing to do they already used it for for for in a funny way they basically used it for a good purpose because really this this does nothing to do with it only if they only if they didn't do it according to only if only if it was brought on the 13 if it was brought on the 13th then you would anyway have to burn it in the morning because it would be but if it was brought on the 14th and you can't eat it why because the blood spilled right and you're going to have to burn it anyway before so they already used it as a s for why can't you burn it no but you have to burn ITB wait overnight you have to burn it you understand they did it already earlier oh we're going to get there we're going to get there we're going to get there in a moment next piece next piece next piece huh you don't have to you have to wait till to form leave till the form changes or overnight but then they would have to burn it in the morning right away he wouldn't call itus why would call these breads it means it's different than calls it because it's nicer if you have to burn it right away it's just like ner so why would he call itus if it went through the night if you B carbon gimmel and the blood Spilled Out and this Le is stays overnight you have to burn it in the morning why why overnight cuz overnight it's form changes have away me after no you you have to burn it because it's it's this one is not you're saying that you could delay so that's why he calls itus that's why he calls itus said he had a question which was um how come they use bread for from a carbn specifically why could they just bake up regular bread why they just take from a store two breads of yeah like what do you need this whole M with a and this question it's a good question because apparently they probably had so much Caron right that's what I would think in other words in other again it's hard a little bit for us to understand because we have a lot of food just to take two regular pieces of bread that are innocent and people can eat and burn it they wouldn't do it the point here is again I don't mean it literally they were killing two birds with one stone you understand these were foods that they anyway couldn't eat regular bread eat it feed it to your children it's hard for us to understand but there was no Surplus of food food was very very precious even in the case with the carbona there was extra bread but it was carbon's bread it wasn't Stam food it was it was very serious food in the sense that famine and hunger was part of the staple it was a staple of life unfortunately so just to take Hol and bread they could have but they prefer to kill two birds with one stone if you anyway have bread that you can't eat so it's anyway going to be burned so why not why not use it as a Simon for I mean that's how shot I think I think that makes sense how people shot good question good question but I just want to this is a big to say that argues and holds that you could bring the carbon on your dollar that's a big if you look in just take a look the beginning of the the fourth on the top and the blood spilled now has to retract the word why you have to say it was and now it's even more than Accord number one the blood spilled number two it stayed overnight okay and therefore you have to say that it's not an more initially said it's but now he's changing unless you say it was like and then you could say that is still still maintains but if but the question is now if he's already getting to this situation why couldn't he just say what said I understand he disagreed with said that it's really something you have to burn in the morning because it's nicer so was uncomfortable with the fact that they didn't burn nicer was uncomfortable with the fact that it didn't burn icer in the morning maybe that's one explanation so he argued but T is asking now why doesn't he already agree with based on this is much better besides which is unusual just say there was extra bread left over says he completely believes that it's untenable to assume that there was not there were not enough people to eat the breads on when everybody can eat it if only can eat it I understand but if every single Jew man woman child as long as in could eat it what's the big deal to say that they found eaters for all the carbas and he doesn't believe that this concept is a practical concept that every year and therefore rejects idea and he feels what happened was not the issue of what happened was a completely different issue and that is when there's so many carbonous mistakes happen people bump into each other head and head Collision the blood spills that's the issue the night passed you doll it in the morning you have to burn it and therefore you used it as and you burnt it a little a little later Tru how many TI already no you only bring it if something but the whole CLA Str came they had they were coming anyways they brought it then it was for the whole the whole CL is strong it's different says this everybody was in a rush there was such a Bagan somebody's somebody's d spell everybody was in a rush and that's where they the blood spilled it's much more time when everybody came together so again from here it would see from the happened not not because you can't bring a on your doll so this is a completely different story the issue was not nicer the issue was it never even got to that stage you never finished and therefore the can't be eaten the can't be eaten this carbon was basically brought to a halt and you have a big problem here and it's anyway unusable so they used it for to show the people for and then they burnt it now they have to fish out this person in the well the were responsible they were the ones who were responsible was risen but they could make mistakes they was risen so they were in a r now it's even worse so now right so says in the beginning that he holds that now retracted from Theus even though from Rashi you see not because Rashi it's called because will only happen at night which is why you have to say that you could be yes yes yes okay now so what do we have now you brought a carbon you shed it everything was good you had the bread the bread is it and then something happened with the blood there was a mistake the blood got spilled and now you stuck and this whole carbon was not completed and basically you can't eat anything and ultimately you have to wait and burn it so we burnt it now earlier P says this means that the itself is enough to sanctify you don't have to wait for the blood to sanctify you have to wait for the blood then you could redeem it you could still redeem it right right so you have to say that this man holds that itself makes it holy even before the even though it doesn't let you eat it says this is the view of the two things that allow a carbon to be eaten milin they elevate it to one without the other in other words even though you need and to allow you to eat it but rebi says one even without the other elevates it to to be able to eat it you need both but for it to become Sanctified you need one and that's the problem here because it got Sanctified with after the but you can't eat it so you're stuck you can't redeem it you can't eat it so you burn it the we have a on they used to bring two Lambs two sheep with two Kal two kalas of this was the O the only other carbon that was together with two Lambs they would lift them up together the two Lambs with the two pieces of bread they would sacrifice the sheep for a carbon schlam and by the way this is the only communual carbon schl in the bikes all the other kab were usually or like the the only carbon that was was the Lambs and they would offer the Sheep Slaughter it sprinkle the blood and then the can eat the bread the two pieces of bread and the sheep on this was every year this is called the Sheep of the way the becomes holy with is only after the just like by the carbon the bread becomes holy through the by also it sanctifies the bread that comes with the Lambs and it becomes only after the just like by the carbon in other words when you lift it up with the Sheep it's still not only after you Slaughter the Lambs till you Slaughter the Lambs the is only which means you could redeem it it belongs to HEC but it's only monetary value it's not essential sacred value great what does this mean says rebi it sounds confusing but it's not I'll explain the or anybody slaughtered these Lambs l means for the sake of sh their kavana was we want this to be the the carbon for the community on and then you sprinkle the blood with the same intention the is now holy when we do the AV of a carbon we Slaughter it we accept the blood in a receptacle we bring it to the m we sprinkle it we have to have in mind that we're doing it for that carbon I bring a carbon OA for an OA schl for a schl I'm bringing these two she why for the sh what happens if I offer an I'm a I sprinkle your I put it on the Miss and I'm thinking it's a carbon schl or or or another carbon right in most cases the carbon is kosher which means you could do whatever you have to do but the owner did not fulfill his obligation the carbon works but the person didn't fulfill his obligation okay you get what I'm saying in most cases if you change your mind you say I'm bringing it for another carbon you could still do what you have to do you're Shing the sheep and instead of thinking schlam you think you could still continue doing it and finish it doesn't become posle but whoever had to bring this carbon has to bring another one in this case though you did it you you did the bread becomes what if the Slaughters this lamb or the slaughter lamb he thinks that this is a carbon okay the doesn't become holy why because for the to be holy you need the but you had in mind that it's a carbon carbona doesn't have bread so the never became holy through the very interesting The Works the cavas is ker you can sprinkle the blood but it became a carbona so it didn't sanctify the bread because your changed it so the didn't become so it remains not because the right never became they never became lambs of let's say not right and even if you sprinkle the blood with the right intention it's not good because the was with the wrong intention or the was with the right intention if you had in mind a Caron does have because only this only this no no because there 40 breads this is two breads I don't think so it's totally different what if you and you did then because the re holds makes it so once there was good if the wasn't good was good too late but if the was good so the becomes and you can't redeem it anymore butes but it's not kades in the sense you can't eat it because the sprinkling was not so it's a funny thing if you did both the is Holy and you can eat it if the was if the was and the was so now what happens the never became what happens if was so it became holy but now the what makes it edible and but the wasn't sh so now you have a problem because if the was not sh this bread never became because the sprinkling was for another carbon so it's true the itself is enough to sanctify the bread with so you can't take it out of the a if if it becomes if it becomes T you can't redeem it right all these yeah but since the sprinkling was we said of the sprl the owner didn't fulfill the obligation in this case it's not an individual owner it's the whole so therefore these Lambs are now sh they're not so even though you can eat the meat first go a regular carbon you can eat you can eat the meat but you can't eat the because that's matter the which is wasn't done because it was after the Z so therefore he withhold that you could redeem it because the was so they never be but holds that itself makes so holds like that through the and then the blood was spilled so you can't redeem it anymore and you can't eat it and therefore you're stuck so you use it for and you burn it but the adds really you could say it follows not only rebi but also the second why in this case by the carb you took the blood with a used to animal take a receptacle accept the blood there were four receiving the blood bringing it to and sprinkling it you took it in a and then it spilled was the son ofb is a son that buried together run he holds like his father his father once said said something that stands to be sprinkled to be thrown it's like we consider it zaruk meaning in many ways this D when you already accepted it it's it's destined to be thrown so we considered it since it was ready to be thrown and sprinkled on the m so therefore he would hold that the of the to became even though at the end the dam wasn't spilled on the but nonetheless holds that once you got the blood in the K the that apply to sprinkling of the blood will already apply besides one area you're not all to eat it that's the only area where you don't say Kar so therefore since in this case he already received the blood so the became holy so therefore you can't redeem it so you could burn it for on the other hand because they didn't sprinkle the blood you can't eat it to eat it you have to have the and therefore you could use these for for a signal for so even who holds by the by the by the by the carbon that the only becomes holy after the that's true but that doesn't mean that they have to actually have the Z it could mean if you have the K in the if you have the blood in the K and M in this case he would also agree with r and you don't have to say only holds like rabi so what's the what's the what's the conclusion that believes that it was that was not ner the problem was that the blood was spilled out even though there was already a even according to but you can't eat it because there was no and therefore you're left stuck with this bread you can't redeem it you can't eat it so what do you do you use it as a sign for and ultimately you're going to you're going to burn it why you caller it'ser why does he say because really you wouldn't have to burn it now till after the night of right in the morning you're not to burn it so it's not like right that's that's the Accord to to retracts from the word the word and the finishes says another two minutes in the name of he has a third opinion completely different these were completely kosher let me tell you what happened you misunderstood the story as long as the two are there everybody ate they took one the was in Lio you don't eat you don't burn they took both Sur everybody started to burn what's being mades what he's saying is that these kalas were actually edible it was a regular Kal you're allowed to eat it and you know what they could stay ate it they ate it this whole complication doesn't exist they ate it why you using it for a Simmon he says using it as a Simmon doesn't mean that they burnt the kalas we understood a whole time that if they kept it as a Simmon they kept it till the beginning of the sixth hour so it had to be burned so why taking Kim and burning it when you're supposed to eat it that's what we understood so we were struggling is it nicer is it we need a justification to burn K right to destroy kacham he says no they ate it they ate it because he has to hold holds the you can eat the fifth hour holy food you can eat the fifth hour holds at the end of four hours you can't eat anything May holds you can eat everything in the fifth hour but holds that you not let it eat but Trum they gave you an extra hour because they want to they didn't want truma to be destroyed they gave the an extra hour would be exactly like truma so he so he says they took away one at the end of four hours it's now the fifth hour so the can't eat it but this they can eat CU it's KS they went and they ate it the took it and they ate it it's on the harabas then they left the second kala right and they took away the second Kala at the end of the fifth hour so everyone knows the five hours are over and you have to go burn right but this they can still e because it's the end of the fifth hour they had to do it before the beginning of the sixth hour that's what happened that's it m that's what he says they didn't have to be burned they didn't have to be burned they were eaten they were eaten obviously the you could trust that they're going to eat it before the sixth hour in other words they M at the end of the 5 hours before it was left to the very end it was till 10:59 1059 or 1058 they took it and they ate it and everybody knew the sixth hour is about to begin and you have to burn your last second yeah M the last second that's thees of thees of thees of a completely different in other words it was a k of carbon everything was good it's good bread and nothing that they're not making they're not they're not destroying kacham here now this explains why they wouldn't do it with regular bread because you needed the to be involved eat it to be the had to eat it if it was regular bread once the fifth hour comes according to you couldn't eat it anymore you had to burn it so they're causing so so there's no there's no purpose in it why do that right let people eat but you can eat because you can eat so therefore it works huh that's the that's that it's a big that's what says you seek he says the last one the second piece they wouldn't take because then they would have to burn it they took it let's just learn the last lines we learn says sorry I have a completely different story for you two ax two cows or two oxen were plowing on the 14th of Nissen on the Mount of Olives the Mount of Olives is very elevated and you would see they would bring two big cows to plow the ground the Earth on har Mishka the Mount of Olives as long as both are plowing Everybody Eats they take away one of the c one of the oxen one of the cows toin now the is in limbo basically 10:00 no eating but benefiting no eating but no burning don't have to burn it both cows were taken everybody begins to burn so has a completely different tradition than our mishna there was no there was no there was no it wasn't the it was basically the mountain outside of everybody could look up and they saw their two cows ask a very take a we're going to learn that in many places there was a not to do even in the morning wasn't Y in one of these places how are they having cows doing Mal that's what the means since all is gathering to even places where they have a doesn't it make sense that the was not to because you had so many Jews who came from those places they didn't want to they have to violate their own they didn't it doesn't mean that they actually plowed it means it looks like they were plowing they were they were standing in the position in the regions where they would usually be doing the plowing it doesn't mean is plowing it was just they were brought there as a Simmon so they were just hanging around they were eating their grass they were they were you know doing their posture but the huh yeah pasturing pasturing but the point is that it was nearest that's the of ab knew those Farmers out there with the cows they saw the on the bench and that's how they knew when to take one cow when the one bread got taken away okay soem tomorrow morning L will begin AR okay the 10th per of I think it's appropriate before P to learn that per it's the Practical the Practical part of and uh we'll try to move and be able to cover uh to cover some ground this eating I'm also I also really want to try I apologize for the delays every day but uh I'm going to try to really to start the Shar 7 7:45 because that's the designated time and I think it'll be more concentrated and productive s b I always say blether things happen at the M that I don't always predict we don't have the to uh you want me to you want me to Signal you you could signal me it's I don't know if it's going to help but lenina the word lenina means right they stay overnight like it says means you stay overnight is called lenina anything that over anything that stays overnight and you don't do with it what you had to do with it is called Lena and it becomes pule in the morning for example I'm being a car right and I have the meat the fat that has to go on the M but I forget to bring it up on the m and I leave it on the table over there the it comes morning I'm like whoops there's a carbon yesterday we didn't bring the meat on it's Poss possibly and I can't bring it up on the anymore burn huh bur burn it the same is true if it's my carbon ta I have meat I brought home yeah I fall asleep I wake up in the morning the meat is there it's called now if the time that the T gave to eat the carbon was only so the next morning it becomes nicer but a lot ofas was so I still have another day so it's not depends the prescribed time did it expire in the morning or not bread here the bread is a carbon carb is right we say every morning so after the night it's over it expires there is Lena Lena just means something stays overnight without doing with it what you had to do it stayed overnight without being eaten without being burned without being consumed whatever you had to do wasn't done it just stayed what what's the status in the morning so if the prescribed time was it's posina have if I have another day that's not possible now there's something things that become like we spoke about when you have yeah theum becomes or the blood gets spilled this B is not pule but because the owner can't eat it because he became t or the dam got spilled so you have to burn the B but it's not nois you have to burn it right away you have to give it a night then it's and then you burn it in the morning it's HEC you can't just burn it it loses its form it's not the same thing so you could burn it in other words you have to have a special heter to burn K you can't just burn K if it's ner you have to burn it but this is not ner it really it really was K and it was on the way to be edible and it was almost edible and the buser itself didn't become the buser became T you burn it the buser became no so you burn it but the BOS didn't the blood got spilled it's called not but in something else the is not in the bu the bus is still on its own is T is good but on the other hand you can't eat it so you wait till it changes and had a plan to say that it was no right you don't leave no so didn't agree with felt it waser and he felt that the would just not allow that to happen it was not Aus like tus explains everyone can eat it every Zar can eat it so they wouldn't allow it so he doesn't believe it's an option so one of the options he says another is that uh if he did believe that it was nicer he wouldn't let them keep it till six hour six hour because it's a you burn it right away for whatever reason he did not accept kan's explanation of noiser so he gave a whole different explanation it's not noer in other words you don't have to burn it in the morning it wasn't nicer what happened was the blood spilled so now you have to wait to burn it till I which is the next night you have to wait theight so if if you did it on your do you'd only have to burn it but if you did it on your you would have to burn the in the morning seems like it was your do because Rashi says that you would you didn't have to burn it now till the next day so it seems like holds that that you could that you could be it was and it was so actually now you have to burn it for much more reasons right it's not but and it went through l so it's on every level so he to change the carbon there was as he puts it he says that right so you can't eat it anymore PA it went through l so now you have to burn it ah if you're already saying it went through the night just say like that it was nicer CU that he doesn't want to accept is not simply means a mistake noer means that there was everything was done then everything was done it was a mistake like he says so says that has to take away the word it's not anymore because you have to burn it you could still use the word because there's no to burn is that you don't have to burn it right away it has to be burned it's not like a yesterday they were eating it now they're not allow to eat it yeah this they weren't eating it last night either right mix like is a bigger yeah is isus so it has to be burned but has to be burned this morning so you can still say sh put it this way you're allowed to burn it right away for sure right but look in Rashi take a look in Rashi and the Rashi the word which [Music] Rashi you still don't have to burn it you see so clearly learns that you Dollar in the morning you still didn't have to burn it it still needs and that's where the says that from rash you have to say that it was and that's when the blood spilled because if it was it would have already been the night of according to this you have to say holds that you could either because he holds do what he got to do right or he holds maybe they wouldn't allow them to do them all giml so they pushed them off to your however you explain it but that's what it looks like Rashi holds T doesn't learn that way T learns it Wasim why does Rashi have to say this that what that's what he means by that itself you wouldn't have to burn it yet you could leave it over the night but since was coming so they already burnt it earlier and they already used it for a sign of you're saying even you could say you're not to burn it right away the word still wouldn't apply because this came already the word chus means it's still you don't have to get rid of it this is not later so you have that the the form gets lost but generally kazal said that if it goes through a night it's it's because something happens even if it doesn't lose its form completely you don't you don't have to burn right away someone's not going to come eat saying form it's interesting I don't know I'm not sure what's at the end of that oh so even though you don't have to burn it right away right they already they already was Ming it they cheapened it already they treated it cheaper for and they put it on the platform to use as a signal for even though it shouldn't get burnt now it's only tomorrow but since you can't eat it anymore so it's already useless if you can eat it they would never do this because it's K why are you going to burn it but since you anyway can't eat it so even though you don't have to burn it they were already they already zle means they mistreated it so to speak they put it down not they put it down they used it for this and and and it would get burnt earlier would get burnt in the sixth hour which you have to right but they weren't causing it to become something that's going to be destroyed because it's anyway going to be burnt not now in a regular day you would wait till tomorrow but it's anyway not something you can eat or use so instead of burning it tomorrow we use it now for KET as a sign and then we're going to burn it with a what's it mean you understand what it mean the is saying that has a different himself gives this answer of himself answers this answer of in our it's two separate people over there himself gives this answer says he says they were pule because they would rush it you understand what what' you say what's Theus is thatas explains it the means this is how thei has the text this is the text this is how he reads it doctors think they would always get sick they stuffing you had you had yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I would assume that they always got sick yeah yeah they were what the k yeah oh they had that um one room that they could go into they had a fire going all the time and they could go in there and get warmed up any time thank you right they could get $1