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David Matlow with a Herzl Collection/Project Update on JM in the AM
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Nachum Segal welcomed David Matlow, the world's largest Herzl collector, to this morning's JM in the AM to discusses his latest updates and initiatives surrounding Herzl. Main topics included the new Herzl exhibit in Toronto, the traveling Herzl exhibit, the Herzl sticker campaign, and Herzl Break on social media. David emphasized the importance of learning about Herzl and Zionism for a better understanding of Jewish history and a message of hope for the future.
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Well, David Matlau says that a
conversation about Herzel will probably
make me feel better. I hope he's right.
I never thought we'd be using Herzel for
medicinal purposes. One of our favorite
guest is in fact David Matlau. He's with
us live via telephone. Has an update on
the world's largest Herzel collection.
Hard to believe, right folks? Well, we
saw with our own eyes. We visited
Toronto, Canada, and saw saw 99% of his
collection. We visited New York City
when his um Herzel material became a
museum exhibit.
Honestly, it's pretty remarkable. David
Matlau, a pleasure to welcome you back
to JM and the AM.
>> Thank you very much. And and it is
Herzel magic. So, I hope it does make
you feel better this conversation. It
can't hurt.
>> I app that's true. It can't hurt. And as
you know, he uh he certainly spurred on
some positive situations in modern
Jewish history. What did you say, David?
>> Uh, well, Herzel Herzel is magic. He he
was the visionary of the state of
Israel, which of course all of your
listeners know, right? And through his
his his dedication, his ingenuity, his
effort uh were the beneficiaries of the
state of Israel that he envisioned.
>> Pretty amazing. And all this, of course,
uh, before the state was founded, Herzel
did not live to actually see the state,
but his remains are obviously on Mount
Herzel in Jerusalem, a place we've
become all too familiar with over the
last two years with the number of
amazing young soldiers that we've lost
in the most recent war. David Matlau is
with us. So, you always seem to have
something new to share with us, whether
it's an event, whether it's a specific
item or items or something you came
across that even surprised you. Uh,
even, you know, being the world's
largest Herzel collector for the last
many decades, what has happened in early
2026 to catch David Matlau's attention?
>> Well, I I go on the premise that the
world needs more Herzel. It it needs
more understanding of what Herzel did,
who he was, and what he envisioned. And
at a time where where people are
detractors just have a a total
misunderstanding, perhaps maliciously
of Israel and its origins. It's
important to talk about and learn about
Herzel. So, uh there's there's four
things. Um I uh 2026 is only 8 days old,
but there's four new things that I
wanted to share with your listeners.
Yeah.
>> One is that I have an exhibit, a new
exhibit which is at the Holy Blossom
Temple in Toronto and it's called Herzel
Hope Home. And uh I took two themes of
Herzel's work. hope the hatifra it's the
state of Israel is is so wrapped up in
hope that the national anthem is called
the hope and also home this is a this
the state of Israel he envisioned is our
home and during the period of time when
when there were the hostages in Gaz and
of course I know there's one yet to be
returned and his his remains should be
returned very quickly we talked about
bringing them home
>> and um also So the exhibit's running
till the end of February, but I was
asked by Rabbi Splansky to um include in
the exhibit things that might be
relevant for Lag Bare that's coming up
early next month and Shabbatira. So in
terms of homes,
>> Lmer
Bulmer is not till May.
>> Tishbat,
>> sorry, get my holidays mixed up. Uh I
get my acronyms mixed up. Sorry, it's
Subishot. Um, and it's about about trees
and and one of the ways that the Jewish
people reflected their desire to build
the the homeland was in the planting of
trees through the Kieran Cayama Jewish
National Fund and and others. And in
fact, Herzeland's one visit to Israel in
1898 planted a tree in Matzah outside
Jerusalem. And in the first world war,
the Turks cut it down and um Zionist
youth groups went to the site of the
tree, picked up the cones from the cut
down tree, took the seeds out of those
cones, and planted new trees from the
seeds of Herzel's tree all around Erit
Israel, which is a tremendous metaphor
for ourselves. Now, we take what's been
destroyed and we rebuild and rebuild
even more than it was before. So that's
my exhibit in Toronto. I also have a
traveling exhibit which in 2025 was in
Henderson, Nevada at near Tamid and just
uh was in Little Rock, Arkansas at
Synagogue Aguat Aim. And if any of your
listeners um are are part of a synagogue
or JCC which would like the exhibit to
come to their town in in 2026 that
please please reach me. I'm findable.
And one of the uh two other things that
I've been working on is there for your
listeners in New York, they may know
about the Hatika sticker collective,
which is peppering or pasting stickers
throughout New York City and it's
expanded across North America because we
have it in Toronto too. Taking iconic
images, Zionist iconic images because
there is a very rich visual arts
tradition in Zionism. uh Arthur Jik uh
Budco Ian Lillian and repurposing those
images for the messages of today. So I
have been providing images from my
collection to the sticker campaign in
the Hatika collective and one of the
notions is essentially to create an
ambient Zionist museum through stickers
around New York City and other cities to
learn about Zionism while you're looking
at lamposts or in bus shelters or on
your hydro bowls. Um and a and the last
thing is I have started something on
social media called Herzel break. There
is a great popularity of sports
memorabilia opening old packages of
baseball cards live in front of a camera
to see if there's a Mickey Mantel in
there or Canada Wayne Gretzky rookie
card. So, a Herzel break is when I open
a newly received uh unopened package of
Zionist memorabilia that I've ordered
from an auction or purchase and I open
it live in front of a camera. So, you
can find on on Tik Tok, Instagram or
Facebook
and it's it's just a way to bring the
message of
and uh Jewish sovereignty in the Jewish
homeland. My last turtle break last week
has been viewed more than 16,000 times
and and many of them in in the Arab
world surprisingly. So hopefully it's a
message of uh it always ends with a
message of hope and peace uh but also
explaining
>> hurtful Zionism and and the uh the
intention behind the enterprise of
having Jewish safety, Jewish freedom,
Jewish sovereignty.
>> Pretty amazing. And but and and it's
only January 8th.
>> Am I spelling this correctly? I'm trying
to install it into my Instagram uh uh
repertoire. Am I spelling it correctly?
Well, how would you do the Herzel break?
>> Well, you you would search me, David
Madlo.
>> Got it. or in on on Tik Tok I'm Marjave
um and or Herzelbreak one word on on
Facebook and they will and they will
come up and of course I have my weekly
column treasure troves in in the
Canadian Jewish news which I also post
on Instagram and Facebook weekly they
come out on Sunday.
>> All right, we just followed you on
Instagram so hopefully we'll be uh privy
to those amazing videos. Sounds really
really cool. By the way, anybody out
there who would like to explore the
traveling exhibit and having it come
from Toronto to your hometown, just
email us. We'll put you in touch with
David Matlau.com.
Again, nomagle.com.
I assume Henderson had a larger Jewish
population than Little Rock. Am I right,
David?
Uh they did, but but um Rabbi Miller in
Little Rock, he just wrote me yesterday
to say how significant it was to the
Little Rock community,
the Little Little Little Rock community
to have um a rehearsal there and and
frankly and and I wrote it back saying I
really don't know how much of an impact
all these uh initiatives have, but I
heard directly from him. There were a
number of weeks of talking about Zionism
and quite moving to see it. There are
many uh many communities of course with
with Jewish populations that just don't
have the privilege of seeing anything
about our Zionist history. So that's one
of my missions is to bring it to to
smaller communities. Um, I obviously New
York, I was thrilled to have my e
exhibit um at the museum there last
year, but I'm also thrilled to to have
it go anywhere that we really need to
focus and be reminded or teach for the
first time who Herzel was, what Zionism
means. There's so much to learn and so
much to be inspired by.
>> And the most uh interesting unusual
piece of Herzel merchandise, I always go
with the Herzel socks. David, but I mean
that's Pay already, right? That we
mentioned that a million times. Tell us
tell us something that we'd be shocked.
Uh actually is a piece of merchandise
that has been hurted.
>> So I haven't done this, but I'm very I'm
very thrilled to have seen whenever
someone sees Herzel anywhere, they they
send it to me, whether they're touring
through Europe or see it online. And I
it's the highest form of compliment that
someone sees Herzel and thinks of me.
But somebody uh uh somebody uh a
gentleman named Adam Titlebomb who lives
in Cincinnati. His company is Level
Three Industries is manufacturing Herzel
hats. So with the socks you can be head
to toe in Herzel.
>> Tell him I want to order one of those.
That's fantastic. I love it. And
finally, David, I know I'm sure I've
asked you this before, but I need your
perspective. It's 77 years now into the
existence of the state of Israel. Herzel
obviously left us many years before
that. He had a dream, a vision, what he
thought would become a reality, and he
was right. And of course, there's been
ups and downs. There hasn't been a year
that has not been a challenging year for
the Jewish people in Israel. We know
that, especially as we look at what's
happened over the last couple of years.
Do you ever do you ever sit back and
just think about what he would say and
how he would feel if he saw the state of
Israel in 2026?
I'm asked that question a lot. It it's
both it's the greatest success that he
envisioned. Israel of course is is a
miracle. The 9 million plus Jews living
there, the the economy and the the
culture and the democracy for better for
worse. Um that that's there. But he
would be disappointed I believe that the
conflict continues.
>> Wow. Um and and he he he envisioned and
he probably
was right that that the creation of the
he called the new society in Noand
the Jewish state would be good for
everybody
and um and it it still can be but
ultimately
my takeaway from Herzel is if you were
standing in Herzel's shoes in 1896 when
he wrote the yuden staff that the idea
of a Jewish state being created within
50 years was preposterous
was so unlikely to occur and it
happened. And I believe the creation of
the state of Israel is
um less likely to have occurred, and of
course it did, than ultimately the state
of Israel finding a way to live in peace
with all its neighbors, which is what
Herzel wanted, which was the founders of
the state of Israel wanted, which I'm
sure all of us want. That's it. if the
state of Israel is possible. Herel
teaches me that ultimately somehow by
people way smarter than me, the all of
the issues can be resolved. not today
and maybe in 20 years or another 77
years, but they can all be resolved and
Herzo's ultimate vision of a state of
Israel and the Jewish people living in
safety and freedom and in peace can be
realized and and me talking about Herzel
and sharing it in the various ways that
I have uh talked about um in this
conversation are ways to keep that hope
alive. We cannot despair even in the
most difficult of times. Wonderful,
David. Really amazing. Anybody wants to
get in touch with David Matlau,
especially if you'd like to pursue
having the traveling exhibit of Herzel
come to your neighborhood anywhere
around this globe, uh, be in touch with
us. Be more than happy to connect you to
David Nomsele.com.
And, uh, make sure to continue to share
this amazing vision of Theodore Herzel
with the world. Uh, David Matlau has
taken it to an extreme and we are ever
thankful that he has. David, God bless
you. be well and thanks so much for
sharing all of this today
>> and thanks so much and to you and all
your listeners be well and have a very
good day. Thank you so much, David
Matla. Thursday morning, you're
listening to JM in the AM