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it is day number 302 of our daily study
of and in the three chapters today study
track of M we're continuing in Mal the
laws of loans chapters 22 23 and
24 we have just one mits for today a
negative prohibition negative - 237 now
two days ago we had negative - 235
prohibition against being the Creditor
in an interest bearing loan deal and
then yesterday we had negative 236 which
was the Prohibition against being the
debtor the guy who pays the interest in
an interest bearing loan negative - 237
is a whole other level which is the
prohibition against being involved in
any way in the deal what does that mean
being involved in the deal and not
you're not the Creditor or the debtor
Who Who Are You Well a guarantor a
guarantor means a co-signer he makes the
deal possible so he's involved that's a
Prohibition who else Witnesses
especially in toal law monetary deals
are supposed to be observed by Witnesses
so there's no confusion later on uh so
being a witness to such a deal that's a
Prohibition or the Scribe the guy who
writes up the paperwork to facilitate
such a deal that's a Prohibition all of
this is biblically prohibited from being
involved in the in the deal and and our
sages learned this from the wording of
the verse
from Exodus 22 24
IM that's the verse that says lend money
to your fellow when you lend money to
your fellow which which is the positive
commandment to lend
money don't be like a creditor to him
which we spoke about before means don't
pressure him to pay when he doesn't have
it and then the verse continues and
concludes and
says do not Place upon Him interest and
our sages say what does it mean do not
Place upon Him interest it's talking
about these ancillary roles to the deal
not the actual creditor who takes
interest but the people who allow it to
be placed upon the borrower and all of
that is prohibited now I want to clarify
something because I'm concerned
somebody's watching these classes and
they're like oh my goodness I'm going to
call City Bank tomorrow and tell them
I'm sorry I can pay the principle but I
I cannot pay the interest on my credit
card it's prohibited according to Torah
law okay it is not I I'm sure you wish
it were prohibited it's not prohibited
you you you can and you will pay the
interest okay um let me explain
something to you all of these
prohibitions against taking interest uh
paying interest being part of a deal
that incurs interest is when one Jew is
loaning to another and that is because
the Torah expects something Absolutely
I'll say it I'll say it un reasonable
from one Jew to another it is not
reasonable it is not normal it is not
the way the world works that people can
just go to each other and expect an
interest free loan an interest free loan
is a big favor I mean that's what you do
for your brother and that's the crazy
thing Torah demands that one Jew should
treat another Jew like a brother and and
do that for him or her but that's not
the normal way the world works in the
regular world people charge interest
it's understood now obviously they
shouldn't take advantage in charge crazy
rates and there are there are
regulations about that but the point is
that if you have a mortgage with all
apologies to Dave Ramsey you know it's
it's it's a normal thing to have a a
mortgage it's a normal thing to have a
car payment and as long as it's not one
Jew to another Jew then it's a totally
normal thing that's the way the world
Works everybody borrows and pays with
interest you try to get the best rate
possible maybe sometime we'll have a
financial class after we're finished
with sa mitz but I just wanted everyone
to understand the context of these
prohibitions okay we will see you for
more tomorrow God willing