Discharged From A Hospital On Shabbos or Yom Tov - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

foreign we often say that the best serum are the ones that really happened and today this morning still give really is a few shells that I heard the time I wasn't clear exactly what to do so I want to look into the sugar one of our neighbors had a very severe kidney stone attack and they rushed to the hospital on Shabbos basically the kidney stone had passed and it was out of danger and that was still many hours left to Shabbos can they go back with a car service with a guy you'd have to stay the whole Shabbos you know here in the in the city you know in a Brooklyn Hospital there's big friendly but let's say in the mountains we have the Shiloh a person is rushed from The Bungalow from a camp to the hospital and Hashem the discharged now what you know could be it's very difficult to stay in the hospital the whole shower business doesn't not every hospital is like the wonderful because centers that we see today foreign they rushed to the hospital and he was diagnosed basically his problem was indigestion also known as too much challenge so he went from to a excessive childhood but it's not now does he have to spend the rest his job is in the hospital so the question is first of all when could a guy be called to drive him home and don't forget to even understand Ireland so there are two questions we have to deal with first of all going home by car Geisha car service there are also two people involved the ex-hoila who had the uh possible heart attack well sometimes you have a your lettuce that runs to the hospital and it's a false alarm false labor so the ex-patient and the question is though the one that was malava them the one that escorted them the husband went along with the wife her son went with the parents it's a very common childhood and also we have to discuss what can be done with the person's belongings they came with the suitcase thinking they're going to spend the next few days there and that discharge before they even were admitted so one thing I think is very clear that the fact that they went or went be mitzvah the Rob says You must go to the hospital I don't know you have chest pains who knows what it is but that's not a Heather to go back you know there's no round trip Hector you went out because discharge now we have another child and what makes it much more challenging I think I can say since the world was created there was no there was no greater Hill Shabbos than going by car the driving of a car is probably the biggest philosophers known to mankind now if you understand how cars work you don't need me to explain it if you don't it's not going to help me explaining it but very basically the car works on on the gas and Sparks that causes explosions combustions now to make a very long story short the car is driven by those explosions which are Real McCoy havara derisa between four thousand and eight thousand Javaris explosions per minute so that's a pretty serious besides the Bissell of the oil and the anti-freeze but driving a car is probably the most again known to mankind now whether you understand that or not but I'm telling you draw going by driving a car whether a kid or a guy is the most serious hello sharp is known to mankind now the emesis with the electric cars it's a lot easier because at most only the use of electricity which some say is there a Bonham and somebody have been suggesting a taller members should have if it's possible to have an electric car you you reduce the color Shabbos drastically but right now the car the cost Service as of now do not have electric cars and it's talking about calling a guy to do multiple multiple hello shoppers and then hopefully we can apply it to the many shylists so I think first and foremost we have to know the Heimer of amirula akum you know like a Rob once told me people think that amirula akum is is not just the hector it's a way of life yeah the guy do it it's not a hit that's not a way of life to quote the two of us one of the restraining they estimate he asked him about a certain situation if you can be Martin so the response was where I am if you play around with them you're playing with the birthstones in other words it's not a Hector it's not a way of life it's a it's very common so step number one but step number two is equally important and that is of maintaining well health this is don't forget he's not a there's no there's no potential because but he's sick he's a bit bedridden he has a flu he has fever whatever it is it's not second or he is and he has to get into bed he's just very weak is allowed to have a guy do even for him he could have a guide for him even though it's not because the board to give an example early in race I involved Thief hey I guess this is a winter Shyla but let's say this theme is not working though the fire is not on the heat is not on and right now they're okay and the people are okay but it starts to get colder and colder and I might cause them to get sick you don't have to hint with him because very often hinting turns into a Khal Hashem he doesn't know what you mean what you want what do you want from me if you have a even the guy can be asked to do directly that's even when there's a concern it might become like the case of the healing now here's the question our this side's patient ex-patient will call them is too much so why should it be mutta and especially if his houses so now it's not the guy he's doing he's doing he's gone now again the fact that he went better does not impact the Sergio but we see one more practice and that is basically sometimes even and this is in the same place that if a person is give a good example he's in the hospital he's recuperating he's okay he's okay out of danger and there's no one no one available to press the call button to call the nurse he needs the nurse so if he is by himself with the shinley so obviously it's a it's a combination he's only doing it is at most and after that it's like a double header [Music] yet to do it but it is ever let's say a person broke his foot and if it's not treated it won't heal properly and left the limp he won't be able to have full use of his leg then the years and we'll soon see how extremely important this is but we passed in basically a yet could do this if he doesn't take care of it it's going to get worse then he could even do an Instagram by himself he could pick up the phone and call the guy you should call service and take him to the hospital so again the climber of amirul akam is true but then again the Kramer of is also true so I'll give you one simple contrast for now and then we'll apply this more specifically is let's say it's not just that he had uh indigestion he stuck us he's like a very strong he thought he's having a heart attack but he's still a girl Shame by Sakana so what he could do is he could have a guy call The Car Service and he goes to the hospital with the costume goes to Car Service I is doing thousands and thousands of uh thousand thousands of havara that's not your problem to pick up the phone and call the class service himself that's a problem because he's doing he's doing a step one and be a dying so the only actor would be if he does it with a shinley or I'll give you another muscle if a person has to go to a hospital and he goes to the house so you have to be sure that there's a header for that because if it's just aim by Sakana then what's happening is worse than a guy driving and doing more thousands of History because here is the year doing and there it's a guy doing okay now let us apply it then we'll try to organize this in a way we can retain it we're talking now when it's not a problem going to a hospital here in Brooklyn the problem is not to come the problem is when he's in the hospital and bark Hashem he has good news he was discharged but now what it's you know Friday night it's 22 hours left to Shabbos spending you know that much time in the hospital and that's very exciting so avadi can't drive home even if it and even if it means he's gonna miss davening but you can't be Mata mulakum for a mix of the Avenue says although the sheets to enable you to do it to do this emitter of FILA or any mitzvah but we don't ask him that way and the slow is very very much about that you can't have a guy doing Allah to enable you get to do a midstep on it so if it means staying in the hospital and missing filibert that's the rasan Hashem because they call the guy to do is not justifiable even if he's gonna miss foreign question now is if indeed he has a status and that's really the the approach to this child is determine the status of the ex-patient that's discharged I know ex-patient that's the he's being discharged so if the person is still he's still weak now says he has to get into bed but all the poisons is because let's say he's in the hospital and he's very weak but he can't get into bed where's he getting to bed it's not bad they don't give him a bed they're discharging him if he even though I can't just jump into a bed now so let's say this patient is very weak he can't imagine walking home he's just not it's not Jack so here we have our hata said many hospitals are Shabbos friendly and they know exactly what to do we say we need we have to get home now okay don't worry we'll call The Car Service so that is perfect the guy is doing this calling a car service and the car service is doing multiple times now some hospitals have us in fact a service that they have a bigger coil and has an account and you go with the cost service they pay for it and you hopefully don't forget the payback gift the shop is of course now I want to make a point once and for all that very often we have to go to a hospital and people have to go to hospital on Shabbos and we're very nervous about the condition about Shabbos but we have to maintain perfect in our relationship with the goyam you know we're very nervous and edgy but you have to say good morning thank you please excuse me you know something the person forgets that there's another human being there he's so worried about his condition or Shabbos which is nice but you know like if so slanted one said he saw it what can I buy him during ill and he says where's your good morning hello because a guy doesn't have to suffer because of our Shabbos so whatever help we do with the greatest all the times during the hospital in other words greeting them saying hello good morning thank you of course paying making sure that you pay the outstanding debt that's it or the hospital but basically this is the cloud if the patient is still named by sakona have a guy called a car service and the guy could drive the person home even though he's doing multiply the rise of havor and we this unfortunately happens uh very often in a camp or a bungalow Colony someone is rushed to the hospital okay but now he's discharged so again determine the status of the potential hilum now very often about her if he fainted we had this once and and it was okay you know it was perfectly okay so then he would have to remain to the whole Shabbos the fact that he's missing Tila batiba that in itself is not a hitter now we would like to suggest a another possible Hector which is really negated to many of our cases now let's talk about the case we just mentioned was rushed to the hospital or the the chest pain turned into an extra challenge well they're all healthy but there's another factor which I'm going to bring out from a different child that happens quite often I'm auberous beginning labor is going to be the the delivery so she she goes to she calls the Geisha car service so she pressed the button she goes to the hospital thinking now she's gonna have a baby Lamaze it's a force alarm so she's in the hospital and typically as well encouraged the husband to go along for the childbirth and now you have two healthy people in a hospital someplace in in a Big Town very much not use the Shabbos friendly not user friendly there's no bigger Highland there now what is what do you mean now what you'll make the best of it deal uh you know go for a walk you'll still keep busy but there's no Hector so that's clear if they need food so you allowed to have a guy bring food especially if it's only if it's from a local it could be from a local place that you don't even have to drive if this if there's no food you have to bring food I'm talking about they can manage but it's not going to be like you know in in our neighborhoods with thanks to this one for because you don't know you're in hospital so representation he wants to say okay specifically for your leaders and he says that this man of leader is but you don't need the pressure of being in a hospital 20 hours because that might induce labor she wants to say that if you stay there too long it's not good to anybody that might aggravate her condition so for that alone he's Mata to drive home with the guy and treat it like on because being there again will aggravate her and that might induce labor prematurely now this is what he wants to say and this is he says but there are a cloud without this he just says that I I you let this mubaris in the ninth month that's the hospital as it is he says that it's not different by Sakana so basically the clown here is on a fourth alarm regarding labor if it's imminent the tax is not now but it's imminent so why go home and come back but if the Dax says it's a false alarm and it could be any day this week then we have what to be saying that it's at least said it's uh it might become and basically they could have the same procedure have the guy called the guy service they'll pay for it and he'll go home now there's another fact I want to mention and that is basically something about them are very concerned about a healthy person being in a hospital now I don't mean to be uh sarcastic but a hospital is not a place for people to be healthy people or sick people there's a lot of germs there's a lot of contagious illnesses someone told me I'm not going to tell you the number that he heard of healthy people that get sick in hospitals being there exposed to germs so you know we have to hope that it's a it's a good but there's another fact to get people out of the hospital as soon as possible because of the potential you know health hazards in a hospital so here we have one you saw it that a a a your leaders is we could say is often treated as a name by Sakana once it comes to that status then the guy could be called to bring them home but there's another Hector that might apply even to the uh that was rushed in hospital the person that over ate and this is a big surgeon that's the same one they'll be a chef for itself but basically we have to know for this Sugi as well and this is a few places in Chas in a few different scenarios where hazawa Mata was referred to as a tirus to make a very long story short someone went on a mission to a Mitzvah to either to fight to fight against the enemy or to help a woman have a baby and let's let's just let's watch the following case someone accompanied a patient to go to the hospital the patient's very scared it could be uh an older person and he can't just put him in a costume and go to the hospital so he volunteered to go on Chavez and the patient needs it is the emotional well-being of the of the patients being threatened going to the hospital so he volunteered he gave up his office to go to the hospital okay now the good news is they pay got there discharged yeah okay so the patient is still sick there's still aimeda a lot of call the guy uh how about the escort oh you're perfectly okay you're not even sick so you know what it's like you know the patient ex patient goes home and the Tactical the volunteer is stuck in Shabbos hazawa very concerned if that's gonna happen then there won't be a next time he's not gonna volunteer you know it's very nice do mixes but look what happened so in in different contexts as you remember one is regarding Wars there is a concept of a Terrace if someone volunteered and he's not going to be accommodated he's gonna have to stay where he is over Shabbos and have nothing of Shabbos he'll be discouraged from doing that again now this is the hector of hetero sofa Mr President and again I'll give you one one example in in if someone goes to save other people from the from robbers or or or armies he's allowed to go back with his weapons he won't want to do it again now I am aware that case is more of a header because there him he needs his weapons for the next potential second I am very aware that this is a very big Sugi regarding hatsala members are they allowed to drive back after any call on Shabbos is there ahead of themselves to drive back to yourself yes and that's why some I saw them as dry back on their own on Shabbos say no they should get a guy and I'll leave that to people that are bigger than I am but the point is there is a concept in very real hello now let me present what I admit as a tradition but I did find Heine tickets to say this let's talk about this fellow who was you know he has a weakness with challenge any over eight and he lost in the hospital he was told I'm sorry I mean I'm sorry I'm happy you're okay you can't go back home because you're not sick sorry gotta stay here or the Baka that wasn't feeling well he rushed to the hospital he spent the whole Sabbath day and it was a terrible ordeal question is it shocked to be marketed up to go back the patients themselves the ex-patients altitirious in other words let's say this fella has another occurrence the Ralph says listen I'm not a doctor but if you have a selfie you have to go to the hospital I'm not going um I remember last time I rather I don't say whatever I do he's not going to the hospital that's it that's a dangerous situation that's of course a reckless decision a dangerous situation and he's not gonna go is it shock to say regarding regarding ex-patient that he could go back on Shabbos to go back so he shouldn't be discouraged doing amidstv the next time which is nice but it's only a Mitzvah that's mutter so if you're gonna if you're gonna encourage someone to neglect foreign that's much worse and don't forget there's a midst of helping someone else and there's a bit to protecting your own life it's the same itself doesn't there's no difference the animal yourself so why don't we say regarding the the ex-hyler ex-patient even if he's a Barbie but let's make it a pleasant experience to go to the hospital misophic otherwise the next topic he won't go and who knows what could happen now here is interesting because it's a different child about a doctor that had to go on Shabbos to heal people rides he has to go do them but he can't come back on jabbus and let's Allah he has to go to treat the guy's a patients because otherwise he's in trouble and if it's a question of him being in trouble if he doesn't go you're not worrying about next time because you're gonna have to go so if his concept is he has no choice he must go the next time so what are you worrying about but those that volunteer he'll decide not to volunteer oh so here we see there's no head to however there's a very simple Mark of halik because there he's a doctor and if he doesn't go and then treat the goyum he's going to be fined or lose his license whatever the story is there but he must go every single time so there's no braver but I just told you this fellow had a scare he had a harrowing experience it was much worse being in the hospital the whole Shabbos next time he's not going to go right or wrong he's not gonna go foreign [Music] that if there's a concern that he's going then the next time he has a skill he will not treat it properly he will not respond and not go that might be a theorists adds this as a sniff it's not a this is not the perfect Hector but he adds this with others told them to be Michael to go back on Shabbos now again I our some sofa it's very different because there he must go period here next time he won't go himself and Paige race ramzan earlier he whose Mako he said he says I did find attachments quotes this that a person if there's a concern that the person will be negative the next time there might be this new head of saifa mission he says maybe that's why plug but anyhow I know it is but it makes sense you know it makes sense because we see people are anyhow very they procrastinate that's nothing I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna take care of it I'm not gonna worry it could be dangerous now the only question is foreign this wasn't so common in those days they didn't have this this going to the hospital and coming and Shop is back and forth and they weren't as methodic as we are you know they were happy to be alive they would they went to a doctor and there was no choice of going home not going home maybe that's the husband I just want to mention this factor it's logical to say there is a form of Science Now basically when the Rob has to decide if the person has had to go back let's say it's a suffix I think definitely could add this you saw it that now besides the the possible we could also say that this is eligible to the hatiru soifon mission now that would be regarding that Shiloh now so basically the cloud number one is we have to know the condition of the patient if he's the aimed by Sakana he could go back if it's just a question of convenience you can stay in the hospital he should stay in the hospital but if there's a concerned that might be another side to be made question someone asked this and this is a very a good part of our studio because it's important insight a woman had like a miscarriage now a miscarriage the first three days is no different than Elena so the woman is interesting the hospitals they chase out the your letters after one day it's it's a wrong it's a wrong attitude because it's the first three days yes now here's the what was it was the question so after after the um she had this miscarriage or after a baby for there's no difference La maisa they're discharging after a day but it's Shabbos and this was not a one of the big hospitals this was a small hospital they say you know what we know you're a Sabbath Observer we'll give you a room for the Sabbath but insurance does not pay because you're not you're not eligible you pay out a pocket you could stay in a hotel room in our Hospital quote unquote you know you'll stay in the hospital we'll teach you like a patient but you have to pay now they're about to go home because this is but they have an accommodation do they have to not go home pay out a packet and be comfortable now we're talking about that the hospital will be at a comfortable accommodation otherwise you're not gaining so the truth is this must be mentioned the financial consideration is not a hegeman in our shab is in no less than four places in four different scenarios points out you allowed to go to a better Hospital even though it's further you'll either go to a better doctor if you know he knows for them and when there's a question of care or treatment you do what's best but as he says it emphatically but not Allah there's no header to save money I would say this gave up literally their jobs foreign so the fact that it's going to cost a few dollars out of pocket is not a hit in itself so basically don't forget this says a person has to be willing to give up call my mind and not to be even alive and the going points out even you have to want to give a common mine activity over and his rise of Affairs to miss them Mitch says that someone's house is burning down he can't have a guide he can tell the guy to put out the fire even though it's common mine you know so again this you saw it that it's gonna I'm gonna it's gonna cost me something that's the best spent money and the hey look at this is definitely worth it now but if it won't be the the same kids you get at home so then you're back to the original Shyla but basically staying in the hospital if there's a good accommodation that should be pursued even if it's costly now here it's interesting because so the person said but but his wife is I said true but yes by Sakana they had their ears to care for the what he's doing is he's not caring for the coil he's caring for the few hundred dollars now there's no Hector to have a guy doing this to their eyes for a few hundred dollars there is a hat they will soon see to have a guy doing this that they are born on but Malcolm have said so basically if if there is an option that should be it should be employed and again even though it's not the level of covered earnings jobs you have at home but trust me this is the grade is covered in ionic Shabbos it's not called ruining Shabbos is called keeping Shabbos I must mentioned there is a famous of the magnitude holds that when it comes to a yes and even things that are not essential for their well-being is mother in other words he has the bikula could be like this there's more of attack to go home even though this accommodation in the hospital because she'll still be better off at home now even though it's not make much of a difference so like the Maga Mission might be a little more room for leniency the problem is that not all the parts can accept the like the Magnum now there's another factor that must be considered and basically when a person runs an emergency whether it's a leader or it's a potential heart attack so children alone that's dangerous but you leave children with the older sister who's all of 14 years old and a little bit you have to be because he's saying you know you have to go to the hospital the the situation home is unknown let's put it that way there's children at home with the older sister you know now let's say Hashem they were discharged and now the wife feels good the husband feels good but they're thinking about the house and they're getting sick you know there's all the kids running around the 14 year old so if the situation that the children are needed the children need parents at home they only left them in that situation because they had no other choice so that we have another hat that the court to have a guy be called guys should cost service and going with a cost service again the guy will call the glacier car service what's the hector so this is the needs of a child if it's pressing needs as we'll soon see we treat a child as aimed by second now if there are young children at home with older children and they are you know very prone to fighting whatever it is but it's not a safe situation for the children at home so the parents could go home by virtue of their children because they are true they're attending to the Same by Sakana their children at home now if the situation at home is fine they left it with a a married couple or whatever it is then then keep it but if it's there's a situation home that needs a satoraki in God oh let's put it that way and maybe when they get home and they see what happens they'll get sick then but I said that's not a reason not to go home so if you know the situation home needs parents so then the the at least one of them could go back now the question is maybe only one should go one should stay so that depends if the wife needs the husband or not especially don't forget if she's still mubaris she might have to go to hospital later that Shabbos and then she needs her husband making decisions so if the situation of an ongoing potential later then she could go home for the children he can company hard to be with her for later but again the safety of young children should never be you know forgotten you have to leave make a of course especially if you know that that the you know it's in the ninth month have a plan if you have to go to the hospital who's gonna take care of the children in fact the police can do it if there's any situation of an emergency and you have to go to the hospital you'll have to put the children in the car stop off by an uncle and aunt and drop off the kids because even though the guy is stopping and starting but this is the needs of a child this is now another point that it was but I want to mention all the parts that were concerned about it the question is how do we apply it you know practically is says although he is Michael to go home by a car cargo car service he's very concerned about the kalashem factor the the zilzer Shabbos of a a a a Hamish a couple getting out of a car and pulling up to the house and getting out now going to the hospital you know the people know you're going with this either you're going with it with a concert but you're going someplace it's it's obvious that you're probably going to the hospital but as he says her Maisha also in Allah the question is what about zilzil Shabbos here you have a Hamish a couple pulling up to the house and bar a buck a Flatbush amongst your Lakewood and getting out and they look fine so what about the zilzer Shabbos now so what's the eight set that's the question so if you live in a geisha neighborhood then you could get off a block away and walk the house fine but you know getting off of you know we're supposed to get off so I saw this a wonderful safe hospitals he calls her revasno puts it I think very well he says avoid in other words if it'll hurt the Highlight you'll make him walk a mile from from Harlem to come to his house in Barber Park was what he gaining there has to be a viable option so if it could get off for let's say people in a suburban area and gets off a you know a little distance from the house but but said that therefore don't rely on the health unless you really need it because again getting out of a car on shop is pulling up to a house in in our neighborhoods is a little of a zizzle shoppers now next question is regarding the malava the one that's escorting the patients so basically typically the Malave is healthy and there's no real hectare for them alive to go back now are you allowed there's that one when the false alarm and she came with a husband so we could change the husband has to go back because they might be another situation that they have to go to the hospital and all the places that the he urges the husband to accompany his wife so that would be a hit but the question is when that's not a factor so here you have to consider if there's a hectare of central let's say he went with a neighbor he volunteered he went with a neighbor that had no one to go with and again and don't forget is a big factor allows people to go with other people the Mahaba says in in Shin lab that if a woman is in during childbirth and she's blind but she insists that you light a candle you do it even though she doesn't eat it it's not gonna help doesn't make a difference she has to feel confident so a person that needs the confidence he's afraid to go alone you could go with him but the question is going back if there's a header of so one thing I will say and this I saw all the pies can seem to agree that if the husband accompanies his wife to the hospital let's say it's not an ayola they said a different uh a scare so the wife has the right to go back but maybe the husband shouldn't go back son so that they apply the samsaifa because he must go anytime his wife needs him if he values his show and values he must go so if it's a husband-wife relationship he has to go so that's because I'm Cypher so they're talking about a a different scenario but the same idea well moisture is quoted as saying her husband if it's not your leather situation has no header to go back and the smear Shabbos in in a memo or a kufai in Zion actually Compares it to our Sam and the kinyan also says this that a family member that must go let's say a son with an elderly parent if the parent doesn't need the child in the car ride home if they if they're worried about going home then that's part of the their job but if it's just a relative that must go then the heart should not be ahead of saifa mission now if lamisa we have a volunteer going then the hear it makes sense that he's allowed to go back if there's a head of if it's a situation but I want to make another point I think is is really very practical let's say the patient is going back to gamer because the car is here and the husband doesn't have a head deception if it's not a later situation but he has the following idea listen I'm going to get into the car when the door opens because that openings for me I'm going to the same house you go you know we live in the same house being done for me than for you so the question is is a person that has no Health on his own to go back can he jump into the car and get off the same place get on the same place no opening doors nothing whatever the heiler needs I'm gonna be question is that it happened itself now I was to have to go into a car a car so that I once said a car as big as it is and as bad as it sounds is a regular clichible activism you allowed to move a car it's not done because we typically can't move cars but it's a regular I remember when I was a child don't let me see why there was a greater to sit on someone's car [Applause] jumped off the truth is it's not it is but if you're enjoying it that's that's necessarily hopefully but be there as it may don't go in someone's car no matter what it is but a car is but the problem is and this is the big issue the fact that the idiot gets in his extra weight is causing more combustion and that's the Assumption and the heart seeing you every day and rage side the gimbal says that initially more weight is more combustion is more havarus for a thousand eight thousand per minute it's a lot of Hello Shabbos like I might sit in a famous children with days discuss this very question and he's not so certain the any idea it is an isabara even media to go with someone as they had to go with the goishika service now again there's a lot to say and I don't want to waste our time but I did do some research some people say what do you mean in an elevator you can't get in because your weight causes more electricity so why is it called different but that's not a costume a car an elevator is going with with electricity and that needs more electricity per weight a car works with combustion I'm not gonna try to explain it but there's a lot of wasted combustion that's not used and there's an assumption that a small amount of weight and per car a small amount could be 150 pounds is negligible it doesn't create new combustion it uses the all the existing one that would not be used depending on speed I know you didn't follow that but trust me it's reasonable to say someone told me saw his own eyes a report from a an ambulance corporation that they said that the the weight of an extra person does not cause more combustion and that would sound like but this was about now La Mesa Shabbos in in Paris he himself is called Sir Maisha he's not sure maybe there is a problem but he makes a very logical conclusion and he says if a yid is driving the car beheta the muscle members going home after his call and his mini gets to go home drive home himself to go into the car with him is wrong because it's a potentially the yid the drive is doing but if the guy is going anyhow for foreign take another and take the ex-patient to go along we could rely on these sheet does that that the yids presence is not doing anymore but I want to add two beautiful points let's say I'm the malava I have no head to just I want to join with the person I'm going with now when I get into the car and sit down I didn't see it right Mooks is not a problem when does the Issa become when the guy puts on the ignition and steps on the on the gears and and and he needs more combust because of me but I didn't do any of this I just sat in the car that's grandma the guy does more combustion or as the hearts V himself says in that same Chula he says that basically this is if he goes at a lower speed he could doesn't need more combustion he doesn't need more more guess he wants to maintain the same speech for extra weight that I didn't actually so the heart's real holds that there might be more combustion is Mako by a geisha driver so again I can't say all agree but it's reasonable to say that if you could get in and get out and there's no extra malacha being done then you could go with someone else but here by yashiv specifically added that's okay but the problem is getting in a car getting out of a car so that has to be considered we should not be missiles it's probably better to stay in the hospital and not rely on this but if a person feels he's gonna stay he's gonna be wiped out there's a head to the company the patient is as far as the belongings of the or the the Malave so basically the heiler could bring what they need and they anticipated a hospital stay and now they're going home before being admitted then they have a whole suitcase of items they don't need so the cloud is it can have a guy do malacha justice to for items so if everything is in an area if let's say the hospital's enclosed by with a fence or whatever it is there's no carrying so they can put in the car and again that weight is negligible but if entails that having a guy carry the items so then we have a problem because there's no Hector we're going to do carry just to save items now if it's a half cent mirror bomb and it's a caramelism but typically if it's needed at home for the patient and still a patient to still by Sakana that's a head to Taco but it best would be if possible you have to work it out to leave the items in the hospital of course in a safe place that you'll find they have the Shabbos and come back at the shop is that's what job is all about now if you could be muramas that I saw the the Slime that is the guy to carry it so you're not having really a direct Thunder from the carrying the hey puts is he was Michael based on the Zion but clearly if things could be left in the hospital that would be a very positive form of Smyrna Shabbos the real problem and I don't know much of a heads up is let's say they were in the mountains or in Lakewood or Muncie and typically many hospitals but they went to the hospital emergency yeah they have to go no matter where it is now they were discharged and the woman let's say or the man is a aimed by Sakana fine what's their Hector to go back home the driving of the guy is okay but what's your head I'll say it's only true I mean he doesn't have can't even go one one dalaram is from where he is says if you went versus let's say a midwife went to help but deliver a baby so that's yeah but to go back home what's the header at this point if assuming that it's I wait a second by Sakana we said that the woman or the man is still sick but here's the problem because there's a hat of anybody Sakana doing this in this case go walk on your heads I mean a drive on your head how is it from so it comes out that for the greatest driver to drive me home is okay but for me to lead the Trump is a very serious problem the only Point here is and this is an interesting observation base says let's say a person is a classic example is taking medication medicine but there's no scene ways to throw in the air and catch in your mouth so the Mr Brewer quotes regarding medicine that if if it's not Jack she you know he'll do it honestly what could you do also says that in achuva and so I saw this wonders is that ahead to any and every case then we have a header to go across the throne because you can't make a scene but he says and he's probably certainly right the Mr Moon does not quote that this in general he and her Maisha both say it in one place regarding taking medicine taking medicine is an Issa cow regarding other s that are awesome it's always a notch lower maybe only regarding medication is where most Israel and Mr muramako below but who said cross the board you allowed to go because so I'm gonna leave it at that it's a Victorian again that's safer that I mentioned earlier from the very famous he quotes when they went went out of your base Mill which even though the going past but it's uh there's a there's a tactical there Isa then you can't go back on Shabbos now the implication is less than your base Mill maybe is Mill not to go home for that alone you can't violate the exception so that's something to think about but he also does ADD and that's the end of tough dalid regardless you could rely on the earth that says now if the patient in the hospital will be a situation of sargodo that might be a legitimate hitter now just a few assorted out I wanted to mention a young child that's rushed to the hospital so typically so the child is was discharged but you let her go home with the child because they stay in the hospital the whole shop is a young child is definitely gonna have an adverse effect on the child now once the child goes back if other parents could accompany him so that would be the head of Stamford cotton now of course there has to be a legitimate need in in racial involves involved and people misquote this they say God means anything he needs Mr Brewer's last name is so if a young child is rushed to the hospital and he can't stay there it's not comfortable take him home if it's an older child and for him it's an experience is there in the hospital and he's fine with it let him stay with the parents if you know if it's not going to be a dangerous situation question I always wondered about a son goes with elderly parent to the hospital but Hashem was only a scare so someone told me there's a there's a cloud of some older persona and he said it's an Ursa mayak I said okay so let me tell you what I found the awesome that was reprinted recently in trailing base half of olive he cares about emotions that came in nursing home he says probably some of them at least are hallucin are weak and they are aimed by Sakana foreign he says if you have a a number of older people probably some of them are weak and their way is it a cloud every zuckin is considered in my Sakana he says no find out how healthy they are if they're healthy because when they hate but if they're weak you could say often but you can't make a cloud out of stem but if it's okay is very nervous and worried and it was a traumatic experience emotional health is also important so you have to have a a a fair sense of judgment what is the status of the elderly parent if they in fact cannot make it a whole Shabbos go home with them and take them home gesundheit kidney stone attack I told the person that can happen here in bar Park they walk their manatees they walked home and they did the right thing because after the attack they basically felt fine and this would be a case where Taco walking home would be the eighth a someone told me had a mild heart attack Eros Lewis that was a Thursday afternoon and Shabbos morning he was already discharged kicked out literally out it just shows you how the hospital are really mistreating our patients but mama I said that would be much of course do whatever he needs he was a broken limb broken foot broken hand it's interesting because that very often is a sakonis Ava because if the foot or hand doesn't heal properly he won't have full use of that Aver and the poisonous he won't be able to use it but it will inhibit its use so very often in a broken limb that has to be treated and has to be set and then you have to go home and rest it and you can't stay in a hospital lounge and keep the foot in the right position in a scenario like that that would be aimed by Sakana that has ever and not only could drive home with the guy you should car service but even because here is as far as yomptive so basically Yom div and Shabbos are no different is fully in effect on the only two differences when applicable is so the guy could carry the belongings and number two this is interesting having a good drive on yomtive Isa ever because the whole of it is so the whole driving the car with the thousands of a virus on YouTube is only the Abundant level but it's still the red bottom but basically Yom tip should be treated like Shabbos jumped if Shaney some are more makeup because the whole refuge on yamta Shani is mutter so maybe there's more of a SAT cooler but I want to tell you less one less Credit in base kufai and Dal has a child where someone was rushed to the hospital the first day of Rosh Hashanah early morning of a three-day yomptive Thursday Friday and Shabbos that they can spend three days this Grace attack in the hospital listen this was in South Africa I guess there was no big there was no because no Yiddish guy there so he said that maybe we're going to consider this as a Mitzvah durability there's not really the ram but it's husband and wife soy for two days and Suites so he put that together to make a head of mitsu durabum maybe relying on the ballet also a little bit and then to dry the guy to drive them home all right so now is the question that I always find the most difficult the Kasha alive is always very painful but this will be the last time I'm going to be until after the summer so I want to first of all another year and I want to thank each and every one of you each and every one of you is very much appreciated to each and every one of you coming to thank the best magic that is unfailing the gracious to us devotion is a legend I thank him very much for his help not his own Financial uh survival I don't know where he's holding now and that part of it but he's struggling definitely to make sure that the the oil of material could have very assurium the vice versa give all of these slices [Music] for preparing the serum and delivering them each of them okay speaking of financial survival besides even sure tires uh Financial survival the best matters main appeal for mineral and more which includes not just electric but over the choice of a temporary shoe which are more than a regularly smudges because of the temporary use of the electricity and the fixtures and the tables and chairs Etc but the amount of crit makers in the back of its mattress and uh well we could help out be a good big as a seal for the best sure after college was supposed to say a secret of the Sheriff's Office foreign [Music] [Applause] to the hospital does not mean he could go home but it's not a round-trip guarantee basically you have to determine the status of the exch Highland and of the condition that he might find himself even on a severe the rice or thousands of the rice is mutter you don't have to hint you could ask them directly foreign now the status of the expiration if he's in good condition and there's a place to stay he should stay the fact that he's missing the davening or missing a suda with a full um ionic Shabbos that's secondary to hey either there's no conditions or it's not good for their health then you could call a guy have a guy call a guy they should be done with arcanium and with payment of course and they can go home with the guy issue car service that was a false labor false alarm typically we could consider it an aim by Sakana at least or others and they could go back unless they feel that it might be imminent there's an interesting head of ciphon that perhaps would apply even to but it seems for the immediate family that must go that would not be ahead to him if someone has a accommodation in the hospital but they have to pay out of pocket or a nearby hotel and that would be a small price to pay for the helical Shabbos after birth or a miscarriage is by Sakana and should be treated as such if there's accommodations and it's just as comfortable that might be an option the a situation that the parents the rush to the hospital one of them needed care and they were discharge and they're okay but they children at home need parents then that's a Hector for the parents to go home for the children and that's them turkey cotton if he's needed at home or needed for the in the car for an older parent or a spouse that needs moral support that would be also had to it's it's extra weight causes extra combustion but it seems to be either negligible or it's only a grammar and therefore to go along with the Yiddish to drive a solid member is wrong a a book written up circumference so that they should not take down passengers because he might be doing extra volume but regarding a guy we rely on that plus others tell them that a yet could accompany someone that's going behead them the belongings if possible leave it there if they need it at home there's a head to but basically try to leave it there in a safe place and pick it up after Shabbos when someone left to go back and godly I would say unless this icon is unless it's markhamsar they should have to stay just by virtue of being Chris there is a concept that when you rush a child to the hospital and that would legitimize going home with the child when they're discharged or an older person depends on their condition kidney stone attack or any scare that basically passes so you're back to square one if there's no situation they should basically stay there yamdiv is treated like because as we said treat the know the condition of the patient and the and the condition of the place that we this day next week July 3rd Borough Park Williamsburg and Flatbush Monday Tuesday Wednesday nights schedules will be advertised [Music]