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Elimination of Shmita produce | Part 4 - The status of the produce after elimination
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This class is covering the different status of produce after elimination
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we're going to continue with the
laws of shmitah we're almost done
we're just going to briefly
uh cover the topic what is the status of
fruit
of chevit of course
that
last classes we were talking about the
bio the elimination
what happens
to the status of the fruit after the
time of the elimination okay last class
if you remember very briefly
we were talking about that
how do you eliminate
how much amount you have to keep with
yourself
and that you can take it right away
after you eliminate it it's not like the
ghamet said we have to burn it it's just
really good to put put it in the street
so now briefly we're going to go through
a few section sections
the status of the fruit after it was
eliminated because if i eliminated it
then it doesn't have any status but
let's see what it says
as it says in the previous chapter
after i
abandoned the fruit at the right time
what's the right time the time of the
bio the elimination
then you can take it back and like as if
nothing happened
even if it's a very large amount
because if you remember last class we
said you can it's enough to take it to
the street
and i announced that i i declared that i
abandon it and whoop and i can take it
right back
the helper hotel
and if you that's the case that you do
then you have to eat the fruit in the
status of sweet and could
this is the status that you gain the
fruit back after the elimination which
one might say what kind of a loophole is
that i have fruit i take it to the
street i eliminate it i do the boo and
then i take it right back in and then i
can eat it
okay well that's the situation
now it says as follows avars
if you remember
last class we learned that the second
that i know that there's no fruit or
vegetables in the field or in the
orchard then i have to do the
elimination
if i didn't do it right away then the
time passed
so we just now celebrated pesach i had
to do bill commits right 11 26 you
didn't do bill commits that's it you
can't do it anymore the time is up
so he's asking you know
what if the fruits the past
the time of the elimination what do i do
with that
so it says very simple nesuba
first of all you can't eat it anymore
and it says hola dam any person cannot
eat it
you have to either bury it in the ground
or to burn it completely all up down
because
to eliminate it in any type of way but
they don't exist anymore here there's a
question i don't have the answer i'm
just asking the question
because if i'm burying it
that's like compost
and that's fertilizing the ground and
i'm not allowed to do that to
so i'm just saying a question that i
thought of and i couldn't find an answer
because we're not allowed to put the
compost and fertilizers in the ground to
the time of sweet i think the answer
would be when you bury it in the ground
where there's not going to grow anything
or that it's not a field or a plantation
i'm just showing you my
commentary but if the time passed you
have to either burn it or bury it or
eliminate it in one way or another as
long as it doesn't exist anymore because
nobody can eat it
next
since we explained that the fruits after
the time passed with elimination are
prohibited from be eaten
ben
shalom
now it gives us three statuses
that i didn't do the elimination by
mistake
that i didn't know
bemidji on purpose they did it be honest
that i
i
was
kind of forced into a situation i was
stuck in traffic for three days or
something like that i missed the train i
missed the plane whatever that is just
give me three say either i do it
deliberately that i don't eliminate on
time either i forgot so i just did a
mistake i thought it's today really it
was tomorrow yesterday and the third
option is that i was forced into a
situation it's called anus
that i have no other option
is
why is that important to know because
some opinion says if it was done by
mistake
or by me uh uh getting stuck in a
situation what's called honest then
they're not prohibited then anybody can
eat them
we have cremia versus always got them so
do the healthcare do the abandoning and
take it back which means that if i
didn't do it purposely
then the
aloha says okay you you you got confused
you got stuck on their way whatever no
problem just do abandoning just do have
kill and then since it's half killed
then you can take it back again
next
laura moba seiferkudem after what we
just learned in the previous section
from there we can learn asuri not perot
then i'm not allowed to buy
the fruit or vegetables at the time of
the elimination past
how would you know that the time passed
i don't know
usually how what would breed the
situation so he says here madame
from a person that doesn't observe the
shemitah if it's a person that observes
the shemitah then he will tell you i'm
sorry i
can't put a stumbling block in front of
a blind person don't yeah i can't sell
you this fruit i didn't eliminate them
in the right time
if a person doesn't observe shmita
you'll tell yeah yeah yeah it's two
shekels a kilo take take take let me
just get rid of it
therefore you can buy from a person who
doesn't observe shmita
why
because they're prohibited from being
eaten
therefore i can't buy them and i can't
even eat
any type of dish that was maybe cooked
with these fruit and vegetables so one
has to be very careful when you have a
family of friends that are not observant
next
month
if we you remember we said that how much
do you have to eliminate
and therefore first of all you have to
keep a uh enough for three meals
so it says if
at the time of the elimination i had
enough for three meals
and if you remember we said that for
each person in the household it's not
only me
then these fruits are not uh prohibited
uh philo are you
even though if it's somebody that
doesn't observe shmita saying in other
words if it's a very small amount then
there's no problem if it's a big amount
and we learned that two classes ago
that's the problem when i have a lot
of the whatever it is cucumbers potatoes
if it's a small amount that can be eaten
in three meals by my household then i
have no problem it's not considered a
problem and even if somebody is not
observant it's still fine
how is about when those fruits
were in the possession of a non-jew when
it was time to be eliminated
okay that can happen can be a merchant
can be a
farmer
if this is the case then the fruits and
vegetables are not prohibited from
eating
the israel economy
but if you buy them from an anjou then
you have to do the elimination the
moment you bought it
saying in other words i bought
vegetables from uh
druze and arab
and i
somehow i know or he even told me
that it's the last produce that's it no
more
cherries no more strawberries they can
tell you they can tell you listen the
season is over normal cherries in the
strawberries in the field too hot
and you know it's time to eliminate them
okay you're saying okay it was in the
position of a non-jew the second you buy
then you have to do the elimination
doesn't mean you have to throw them you
take them to the street like we said in
previous class you do
abandoning healthcare and then you take
it back no problem
lobby aram
and if you didn't do that then then
they'll be prohibited which means right
after you buy them you have to do the
buo which of course
with the leeway of half an hour an hour
till you get to the right place you're
doing it but you can delay and if you
delay then they'll be prohibited from
eating
oman um
but let's say you didn't know the law
and you bought the straw strawberries
from the non-jew and he told you no more
strawberries in the field this is the
last last what you would get
and you're saying oh if it's the last
must be that i need to do bu the
elimination but you didn't know that you
have to do it right away or you said oh
i must do it with three people remember
we said we had you have to have three
people and then we explained also it
could be children
so you did it by mistake you did a
mistake
if they were in the possession of a jew
then like we learned before then there
are prohibited you can't eat them if
they were in the possession of a non-jew
then you can be lenient and you can do
the elimination and no problem
next
yeah
that it's
fruit of an angel that were in my
possession at the time of the
elimination
okay
how can that be then i have fruit from a
druze he has a field here i bought his
vegetables
but came the time of the view of the
elimination i'm i have them not him
yes
some opinion says that there's no
prohibition there's still you can eat
them
um
but the second that you it moves to your
possession then you have to do the
elimination
and
can't
delay the process
here is adding a solar lithium
shell
and if you're going to somebody and you
don't know the status of the fruit
better not to eat from the fruit of the
vegetable there unless you know that the
person does did have care or you tell
them abandon the fruit and then i can
eat them
next
month if you remember in the previous
classes we learned that there's
something that is called otsarbeidin
meaning that whatever fruit and
vegetables you have or somebody else
have they give to the baideen and they
say i abandon it i'm giving it to the
baideen let the baideen
distribute it to needy families or poor
people
now how is about if the fruit were in
the possession of the badin
while was the time to eliminate them
then you're allowed to eat it and you
don't have to do the view of the
elimination
because they were in the hands of the
beidin
and if you took it from the beijing in
the days that there is a doubt
what's the doubts man habio then you
don't know exactly when i need to do the
elimination i don't know what's going on
in the field yet yes
then the next day that you took them
then do the bill do the elimination
so really it's just a process it's
almost like the process we do the with
my thoughts and trumot you do a process
and then ready to eat
next
sorry
if i have fruit from the seventh year
that they weren't eliminated in the
right time
then then of course they prohibited
prohibited to be eaten
if i sold them
then if you remember from previous
classes if i sell perot of chevy then
the money
remember how it's called the meishavit
remember we learned that a few times
so now the money is holy
and if you remember we learned then i
can only use the money for food
so how is about if i have fruit of
chevit that they weren't eliminated and
now i'm selling them
i sold it to you
forget about that i made you sin but now
the money has to show on it
then right away first of all the status
of the money that it has to do with it
doesn't matter right now if you're
allowed to eat it or not the money has
to do with means they only can buy food
and food with it
venezuela now what happens is now the
money is also prohibited
i can't touch the money
the dementia wheat and the money of
selling uh the the
produce of javid
then if they weren't eliminated then the
money is prohibited
i can't remove the kedusha from them and
then somehow uh allow the eating
shalollah
forever the money is prohibited
now whether we see a
similar scenario here in israel when we
do a a turmoil
we remove the duschan we put it on a
coin
right and what do you do when the coin
is full i told you you have to destroy
the coin or you throw some throw it to
the ocean some destroy it but you can
use the coin the coin is that's it it's
the same thing here the money you can't
use it you have to destroy it
so basically saying in other words and
again like i told you practically saying
most people don't really apply
everything that we learned now
because
of many different reasons
we're learning just to know the
knowledge and if you do deal
with people who have fields and you take
the fruit from them
so
all you need to remember is to know
more or less the seasons and i was
especially giving the seasons of uh
strawberries because this is not like
figs that you have all year round or
apples strawberries as a very short
amount of time that's it and it's done
in the field you're not going to find
any more of them and you know that you
need to do the view
so when it comes to different fruit and
vegetables that you know are very
seasonal how you say seasonable seasonal
seasonal then you have to be very
careful
when it comes to fruit and vegetables
that are not seasonal okay so you know
okay
i'm probably not going to have a problem
with that
the advice that the halacha says is that
if you're not sure then do the bio do
the elimination go out to the street you
need three people remember we learned
the whole class how you do it chick
chuck the whole thing takes you 30
seconds take it back and you're good to
go and you basically just changed the
status of the food
for many people hard for them to realize
what's the big difference the food does
what's the what do you mean the status
of the food but everything has a status
quo
means that it has
holiness in it and holy means doesn't
have any to shine it
and needless to say many people don't
give value to the severity of it
but fruit and vegetables
that are not observed by the chevits it
affects the body worse than eating
unkosher meat
or
worms and stuff like that people don't
understand that when it comes to the
land of israel the fruit and the
vegetables when you have to remote
massage it how it affects the body
one might say what's the big deal not
eating a pig not eating a camel eating
an apple
yeah but that's an apple that falls
under a certain criteria and you know
what we're going to learn it now in the
elevate class about noah with the
vineyard
you know why because he planted it the
same day
it produced
fruit
that's hola
first three years and he ate it and it
caused him the opposite effect instead
of doing good he made him do bad you
know you eat a fruit in israel that
it's the first three years the status of
it is ola
then that affects your nephesh in a very
in a very profound way
same thing with torment and massa most
people don't realize it here in israel
outside of israel no problem you can buy
and eat whenever you want
here in israel when we have to give the
turman masala you don't do that the
fruit
has a certain status on it and it
affects you spiritually
in a very profound way so we need to
know how to
follow the rules and observe
the laws
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