Embracing Mussar and Critcism: Shaarei Teshuva 2:10-11 with Rabbi Aaron Dovid Poston

[Music] everybody welcome back to the charity vachabora right this is the safer we're using fantastic rabbino yonah we all need to do truva talking adding myself into this obviously this is what we need to do this is why we were created to serve hashem we might as well do with joy and we might as well do it as perfectly as possible and even though there are basically three some people count four general principles in terms of doing chuva the rabbiniona breaks it down into 20 simple bite-sized pieces and that was in short olive that was in the first um i called chapter gate and you can go back and watch those videos right down below in the youtube description box there is a link and you can go back and watch them from the very beginning i just want to mention this class is dedicated to the reforeshalema of pinto okay for those who know he is yoshiyahu yosef ben zakri mizrat hashem through the merit of our learning we should see a refusal amendment to him and to all of those who are in need of a reforeshalema we're in chapter 10 i'm sorry we're in paragraph 10 we're in chapter two for those using our book it's on page 157 now i just want to mention before we start because my daughter got married a week and a half ago and i said something over at cheva broca's and it's about a minute and a half so bear with me i think it's very it was for me it's very touching the thing the the vort the words that i came across and i wanted to share with them and i did and i want to share with you it'll take just a few valuable seconds before we delve deep into uh paragraph 10. in judaism we we're taught that at the chupa at the wedding ceremony our ancestors those who are no longer in this world the bubbies and the zetas and the great grandparents if they're not around they are in the next world and yet they attend to the chupa they're there to what what are they there for i mean we could feel their presence we don't feel their presence but guess what their souls and the shamans are there now a great question was asked that i saw the question that was asked was why would they come remember where they are they're in a place called gone aiden right gone aiden is what it sounds like it's a peaceful place it's eternal rest so to speak why would they get up and come down to this world that is dark and physical what kind of pleasure could they get right because they're going to do it they're going to have some motivation some kind of reason so very simply as we discussed before we started this uh the video uh on zoom that perhaps right to to get the enjoyment of watching their own grandchildren their own children grandchildren great grandchildren getting married so we know that when you go to a wedding it's giving them joy right but you're it's not tangible so it doesn't really make sense that they would come for their for um to give the other people the the husson and kala the bride and the groom any kind of enjoyment because they're not sensing it and again why would they leave such a peaceful place we have a concept that says there's no reward right the real pleasure of the mixes that we do are not felt in this world so here they are coming out of ghanaian to do what do a mitzvah of misamek the casino which is first of all is not even perceived by us and let alone it wouldn't be perceived by them either so i saw an amazing idea and i you know it i well up with tears when i think about it because my daughter is getting married right they guess what it's not only the ascendants right the the um the past uh souls but even the future souls that are coming to be because of this marriage they're present as well their presence amazing concept right we're talking about conduction making a match between a man and woman becoming one flesh and one flesh there's different concepts behind it but one flesh could mean and does mean the the children that are going to come out of this marriage and those souls that are not even yet born let let alone conceive they're not even there of course they're conceived in hashem's mind they exist right and they're there and i mentioned the chevy brokers when everyone was present right the the in-laws that we got to meet each other just a few days before and we spent a lot of time together that this is just the beginning there'll be many more times in the future when the descendants right not the ascendants but the descendants eventually get together and they are the chuppah their own how many years from now 20 years 30 who knows right as the great grandchildren even get together that we will meet once again anyway it was a touching for me to come across this piece and i just wanted to share it with you now let's get into the meat and potatoes we're talking about another way of inspiration to do truga through being inspired now it may sound really counter-intuitive but we're talking about embracing moosa and criticism who wants to hear it right shut it off close it off hide under a rock right if you're a turtle put your head in if you're an ostrich dig a hole and put your head in right who needs it well guess what not only do we need it we should embrace it okay so that's going to be the topic of chapter of paragraph 10 and we're going to hopefully get to a paragraph eleven which is going to deal with the danger of ignoring constructive criticism okay so here we go we'll deal with paragraphs 10 and 11. the third way the third concept that a person could be aroused to do to them when one hears rebuke moosa is ethical teachings but it's more than it's admonishment from either the torah sages or anyone who's charged with giving rebuke now who are they sometimes they think they are you know they have a sheriff's badge right the truth is we don't have to worry right we should listen and consider the message not necessarily the messenger right hopefully if it's if it's people who are really straight on the narrow and they're walking the walk right they they they don't they're not just talking the talk but they're walking the walk this is something that we should not run away from and for those who may maybe hypocrites maybe not so righteous in our eyes we should anyway try to hear the message there's something about us about it pay attention to it yakshi the ishmael listen to listen good there's actually two words yakshi then the ishmael they're both words for listening and actually subjugate yourself submit yourself become humbled the yakuza buchuva and duchuva now there is a comment here i want to i'll get to it shortly the cabell belibo accept in your heart receive it well kodi all of the rebuke that they're giving you shalom or medivham and don't diminish their words okay you may you know and don't admit anything they say try to to take it to heart so here the comment and i just want to i saw these comments and i think they're very good if he if the person does not listen attentively so the message might elude him try to listen well even ask questions how do you know you know what did you see how did you perceive it whatever it was that they're coming with to you try to learn something now even if he does listen and grasp what is being said he might not be sufficiently aware of his actions to view the message as being relevant to the person themselves try to to listen really pay attention and even if the person realizes the relevance of the rebuke change will not occur unless you allow the words to penetrate your heart and we're going to discuss this because this is what it's all about we're going to talk about what does it mean to circumcise your heart right this is one of the famous statements in judaism right we do get i see we we the jewish people half of the population gets a physical circumcision but it's a and i don't want to belittle it in any way is important but it's also a message that we have to circumcise our hearts in other words it's an external cut on the flesh but it's more symbolic trust me it's also the covenant it's very deep we're not going to get into that now there's a women's share but we have to remind ourselves that we have to be uh to remove the clipa to remove sorts of barriers from our hearts in order to um in order to come close to hashem and to be real you true human beings okay so you want to have the words penetrate your heart and be humbled by the realization of your mistakes okay that's the first idea when we said the yakshev the yishma right to really truly listen another idea about not omitting you know truly listening to all the words it's important to immediately translate the inspiration into a commitment in other words when you hear and you realize that there is something you're doing wrong that you know this is not like a once time a year like in the nations do on uh first of january right they take these uh i wouldn't call it a vowel what do they call they call it some kind of a commitment a resolution right we also do the same thing during ll to a certain extent right this 40-day period right from the time of the beginning of blowing the show for the month of ello until yom kippur we're constantly thinking about it the truth is we should be thinking about it all year round but at least we focus during the year certain times so too when we hear that we should immediately try to grasp the moment right let's grasp the moment and try to make a commitment at that moment uh great when they say you know grab the grab you know there's a window of opportunity don't let it pass you by because if you don't do it the inspiration will simply dissolve and the opportunity to do truva may be lost okay let's continue so when you're hearing it and you're accepting this rebuke it's like you're you're leaving the darkness and a great light has come to you i mean how grateful should you be forget the messenger obviously if it's atomic someone you respect great sometimes it's not take it grab it and realize you have a moment of leaving the deep darkness and of sin and going towards a great light see at least at that moment right allow your ear to be open or anticipate right and let your heart i'll try to understand the message and you should be moved to repent the acaba beyond shamu at least on that very day that you hear them the words of rebuke you should um you should accept those words and what you're doing is you're undertaking you to fulfill the words of that someone's giving you with it and the teachings of the torah and um at least from that day onward notice it's like part of that commitment the will understand what we're going to talk about when you hear those words and while it's still fresh remember it could be an embarrassing situation it could just be the shame involved just the revelation of the truth take it don't let it pass you by it will it will i'll just tell you another just not to digress but there's a concept matzah and khames right matzah is very much related to the word mitzvah it's almost the same letters and mitzvah is just with a vow right memphis what's the difference between a mitzvah which will relate to mata and khames which is fermented and spoiled because homage is actually the same just bear with me it's almost the same letters as matzah memzadek hey from matzah and i'm just going to reverse the word the letters but it's the same letters it's memz so it's the same letters except the difference is the hay and the and anybody knows hebrew you look at the letters what's the difference between a heineket almost nothing if you're half blind you won't even be able to tell the difference because it's a little sliver of of ink right that you can so hummus fermenting which ruins at least on pesach it ruins the food obviously all year round it makes whatever we're going to eating uh more delicious but it's it's um symbolic of arrogance and sin at least during pesach that's how we look at because it bloats it's it's like the ego so the idea is that if you don't seize the moment because what is matsumata is constantly worked it's a um it's an opportunity right to constantly work on something with resource with passion right if you leave it ferment then it gets spoiled meaning you can't eat it so too when it comes to doing mitzvahs here in this case it's actually a mitzvah then we'll see it it's we're going to see it soon it's a mitzvah to receive and to work on yourself so here the idea is to be careful about i'm sorry um you undertake to do whatever those charged with teaching the torah will instruct you to do from that day onward his hair uh yes and be careful about whatever now this is a phrase from tanakh but it doesn't matter it's a very famous statement about the banega the the the tribe of of yasaka yosaka they made a pact with zvulen they're the ones who learn the torah and zbulin are the merchants who support those who learn torah how do we remember that scar they're the ones that really receive the main reward you suck are the ones who are learning torah and they were called the men with understanding of the times because they really through the torah they were able to understand the cosmos the universe when different times okay and they will warn the person to avoid turn the page to the right place and on page 157 so the truth that you've done should have hopefully will have an immediate effect effect on the person and the person will be actually transformed into ish a different person and the truth is it's very interesting that the christian religion has stole one of the important statements that we make ourselves and we shy away from it and i i think it's a mistake but i understand why we shy away from it because it sounds so christian and we do everything to avoid a sounding christian of course because we're not but the idea of born again right at tinukshanola dummy someone who converts to judaism all his sins all their sins are forgiven they're like a brand new baby so too someone who does chuva we say that um when someone gets married when someone gets elevated in positions there's a different things that happen even when you're embarrassed in public right your blood right we call it murder if you embarrass somebody but really what happens is the person also comes back to life it's like they're being born again they have a new opportunity this idea of being born again every single morning we wake up we thank hashem for returning our soul we really have an opportunity in fact i'll give you the it says you have to wash your hands first thing in the morning and one of the reasons why there's several reasons i'm not going to go into them now but one of them is called we're called abriyah khadasya what's a bria khadasha a brand new being like just born today so this idea is not foreign to judaism but unfortunately it has become perversed and misunderstood okay i'm so glad i got that off my chest here we go that's the last thing we read that the person is transformed into a new being a different being league hear this as soon as the person accepts in the mind alone in the in the thought now the the question is where's the heart right the lathe is the lathe in the heart or is it down here or is it in the mind the truth is since covet came out now we know another anatomy right if nobody knew this the heart pumps the blood and it goes into the brain and unfortunately many people who've experienced some of the uh side effects some of the symptoms of kovid there's a lot of things to do with the heart and the circulation and blood clots and this that and the other thing i'm not going to go into it i'm not a doctor but just keep in mind that we talk about the heart right being the seat of understanding truth is it is because it pumps the blood to here and the seed of understanding okay we could have maybe a difference between the procedure and the lid fox it doesn't matter we talk about the heart it's it's here as well as here so he says as soon as you accept it in your thought alone at the moment in which you undertake within your own mind to re to resolve within your heart to do what khan and lenovo's you already acquired within your soul the merit and the reward for whatever misses you resolved to do as well as right the admonishments that the person you committed to change right it's unbelievable because we're going to see proofs for this that as soon as you decide that's it i'm going to change you're already a changed person it's an amazing thing right the ashrae uh siddhak binafsha bishoka fortune is he right happy is he praiseworthy is he who has made his soul virtuous in just a moment you didn't even do anything yet meaning physically you didn't get tested you didn't have to re-experience that that moment or that test all you did was made a commitment a resolve of resolution and already you get reward as if you actually did it and we're going to see shortly the greatest secret of all time in judaism everybody knows when god offered us the torah right all the nations said knew what's in it right the jewish people said vanessa what is nasa we will do and we will learn we will try to understand whatever it is but we're willing to do it even without understanding that acceptance god says who taught these who taught these lowlifes who taught these people my secrets this is the greatest secret this is a real commitment this is real faith this is real judaism right now he's going to go through the proof we have in chazal and go to exodus chapter 12 verse 28 the yelchu the yasubine israel now this verse is clear if you go to the beginning of chapter 12. it's talking about rosh chodesh this is either the day before rosh chodesh or rosh itself god is showing moshe what a new moon is going to look like okay and what's going to happen that on the 10th of the month then you're going to take your pesach offering and you're going to bring it into the house you're going to examine it on the the afternoon the 15th right the 14th you're going to slaughter it the night of the 15th you're going to eat it and god's going to do all these miracles you're going to leave egypt but in if you go through i said verse 28 go through 1 through 28 and that is like all in preparation for that moment 29 onward verse 29 onward is where they actually do and god performs so up until 28 it's all about what's to what you need to do and yet in verse 28 it says so the children of israel went and did i mean they went and did as the lord commanded moses so they did rashi says right there now did they already do it how could that verse state they did it wasn't this all said to them on rosh kodesh 14 days prior but since they accepted upon themselves to do it scripture credits them as if they had already done it it's amazing and that's the proof that when you commit to doing something it's as if you already did it i know it sounds well that's the easy way no we're talking about a real result a real commitment to change to becoming a better person this is the power that we have as human beings okay so we read the verse the yell clue of yahushua israel it's past tense the children of israel went and did as hashem commanded moses aaron which seems to indicate in that verse that they brought the pace of pesach offering immediately upon hearing the commandment the question the the review asked did they actually do it immediately hello on arba also the hardest of course they didn't do it they didn't do it until the 14th of the month ella cave on shekel assault however as soon at the moment they accept it upon them themselves to do it this is a famous concept as if the verse is placed upon you meaning as if you fulfilled the verse this is the torah right it's great when you know that you fulfilled what the torah is telling you to do and they did it even before they did it meaning as soon as they committed to doing it it's as if they did it the torah considers it as if they immediately did what they had been commanded to do we see from here that when a person sincerely resolves to do something good he's immediately credited as if the person had already done that thing i just want to read the comment here say on rosh this these verses up until and including 28 the jewish people simply undertook to faithfully observe hashem's commandment regarding the pacing pesach offering in his proper time the torah nevertheless writes they went and did to teach that hashem considered it as though they had already fulfilled the mitzvah on account of their sincere resolve to do so now i want to mention that i do work with converts and this past week i won't mention his name but one of my students i've been learning with for the last year and a half we went to based in the base then for the sake of conversion this was his last meeting with them for the final part of the conversion and he was accepted they welcomed him and said welcome to the jewish people but before that they asked him a lot of questions why do you want to convert and you know even though they asked him at the beginning of the process and they asked them a lot of hallucke questions to see if he's fulfilling what he says and if he's doing it right but what they asked him was right before they said okay welcome to the jewish people they said are you willing to accept upon yourselves all that's written in the torah he said yes i mean it's one of those moments you feel like crying we're talking about a newborn baby right tino shanola dummy a brand new person and of course he says she's my out in front of everybody but the question they asked are you willing to are you willing to take upon yourself everything's written in the torah and all the men hugging all this what the sages have said and the person said yes and what offend he just accepted upon himself also by the way when a no hide well we don't have this in in its truest sense uh becomes the girth of bizrat hashem when the majority of the jewish people will be living in the land of israel which will happen very soon israel hashem so then we will have a bona fide 100 percent gertoshav and they go it means a non-jew goes in front of a bastion and accepts upon themselves publicly they will fulfill the the seven mitzvahs of noah and that's also in very much the same way they're they're coming from a place of of course they're obligated but there's a new sense of obligation taking it upon themselves publicly it's a it's a much higher level and therefore they can live amongst jews in israel and be and be um what's the word socially accepted not as jews per se but at least in society as you know citizens citizens um of the of the of the of the country anyway bizrat hashem we should see that day happen very soon okay now we're on uh page 159 okay it says in aldo's de rebinasa what does it say over there it says so anybody's whose deeds are greater than their wisdom the wisdom will endure think about it as that right if the person's wisdom is more than their deeds so that wisdom will not endure so it's oh it's really i it's all deeds matter i don't know if you heard that expression i didn't make it up but it makes sense right it's a very jewish concept all deeds matter okay so if you have lots of deeds meaning good acts kind acts working on yourself doing mitzvahs so then your wisdom that you've acquired will endure and how do we know from that first we spoke before nasa venisma did i mention where it was okay so let's look at it it's in exodus 24 verse 7. and he took the book of the covenant to read it it's talking about moses within the hearing of the people and they said all that the lord spoke we will do and we will hear meaning doing and nishma we will we will hear we will then learn about so they're willing to do it the deeds come first okay the this is the greatest secret the deeds come first now this teaching is difficult to understand why because it doesn't make sense right most people would say like the said well tell us what's in it and then we'll do it you know no we said we don't care what's in it tell us tell us what it is we'll do it and then we'll understand it later we'll study it so this teaching is difficult to understand for a person can act only in accordance with what he already knows and is therefore seemingly impossible for one's deeds to be greater than his wisdom but no this the secret of judaism is the other way around so beyond the way to explain the matter is like this that the person who sincerely accepts upon themselves to observe whatever is in the torah whatever the later the torah scholars will teach us and to act in accordance with the law whatever the judges will tell you to to do yes the person has already received in their hands all the reward that will eventually be accumulated from all those misses you already get it now allah aznow medivh both for the words of tory already heard and understood and already observing the allah divided and for all the things you have not yet heard for all those matters which you've not yet learned about fedex you've clothed yourself in righteousness the kanazhut you have received you've acquired the merit for that which was already revealed to you that i'll call him and all that which is still hidden from you you have received this is a very deep metaphysical concept the akh result right after this vid but what you're going to do is every single day seek more and more wisdom seek rebuke rebuke means that someone will correct you right after having made this commitment he the person shall each and every day seek out and harry to the doors which is symbolic of going to the big midrash going and hanging out with righteous people and they can offer you corrections that's what re rebuke is the yasku nikolodov and to gain wisdom from all of your teachers okay and this is the riddle this is the solution to the riddle right because we said how could it be that someone's actions are greater than their wisdom so since one with a sincere resolve to do something good is credited as if the person already done it it comes out that the deeds remember because it's as if you already did it the deeds there for greater than your wisdom because you still don't know a whole lot you've only committed yourself to whatever it is needs to be done you've resolved resolved in your heart to do it and therefore its credit is if you did it therefore your deeds are greater than your wisdom isn't that it resolves a lot of issues you're still unaware of many things nevertheless the reward is already given to you as if you already fulfilled it masha amrit israel and this is exactly what the jewish people said it's inaudible by the way i don't want to go off on the tangent but just keep in mind the word is similar to what asui are doing and yeshima nishma is from listening in a deep kabbalistic sense there's only you know these two other nations represent all the other 70 nations and that's christianity and islam so the word is from like asaf asav is the progenitor of rome of the christian religion and yeshua is the progenitor the the founder so to speak of of islam we do both right each one of these religions with the depth of it i'm not going to go into it now keep only one aspect some do some listen right but we that's what the judaism represents is the concept of both integrated on the deepest level of nasa then ishmael um okay i'm just as an example so the the muslims keep a lunar calendar the christians keep a solar calendar we the jewish people have a loony solar calendar meaning we keep both just an example of the depth of what we're discussing here what's happening here we say nasa nishma we will do and we will listen we're accepting upon ourselves to do whatever hashem commanded us to do before actually hearing what that would entail so the sages cite this verse in their teaching to indicate this is the idea of one's deeds are greater than their wisdom necessarily it has to be this refers to someone who made a similar commitment like the jewish people did at mount sinai this is wisdom for the world uh another idea for otherwise for otherwise it has to be otherwise right it would be impossible for someone's deeds to be greater than his wisdom if this is so clear it should help resolve so many questions if anybody had them how could it be that the jews said not ishmael right what are they stupid what are they backwards primitive uneducated no the opposite this is the secret of loyalty to hashem and getting the most out of it at the same time okay now we're going to go to paragraph 11. and and this is unfortunately people who don't take criticism well for one who is not aroused right yet oh rare awakened someone who's not awakened to the voice to the message of those who give rebuke yakapel avono he will reach a double punishment a double sin his sin is double because he ruehu what ended up happening was it was like you harden your heart now we already saw that we have to what circumcise our heart so hardening your heart we're going to say is the opposite of circumcising okay you're um you were warned about your transgressions and you had a perfect opportunity to do truva but instead what did you do your heart in your heart and you were not careful to heed the words of this rebuke like it says now we're going to uh proverbs chapter 17 now we're going to focus on verse 10 and 11. 11 is going to come up again but verse says the humility caused by the rebuke of an understanding person is more effective than 100 blows to a fool right a fool will constantly you know fall fool will fall many times and never learn his lesson right but a wise person hopefully can even learn from other people and never have to experience or if they experience the downfall hopefully they learn the lesson and didn't have to fall again so the humility caused by the rebuke of an understanding person is more effective than a hundred blows whether it's lashes or as we're going to see what does it mean that hashem is trying to wake the person up you can wake you know if you're a fool you you can hear a million times you don't get it right now verse 11 says he who is only rebellious seeks evil and a cruel angel shall be sent against him okay we're not going to focus on this verse right now but this cruel angel what is that okay we'll talk we'll discuss it shortly what is these what do these verses mean so in the beginning right the the um the evil person is not going to be humbled by the voice of the one giving him rebuke ah but he's actually going to seek to rebel right sometimes they even act worse after you right there's an idea of the you know someone does something bashog means inadvertently they're lacking information and then there's people that rebuild knowingly okay so sometimes we have to weigh out should we be the person are they going to listen uh to the rebuke because right now they're doing it inadvertently which is obviously less of a sin if you sin inadvertently it's uh it's still a sin but the punishment the severity of whatever consequence is going to come down the pike are so much less than if someone did it with full knowledge and knowingly and willingly right so we're talking about someone who wants to rebel right they're not interested in not being humbled by the voice of of rebuke and they're interested in or they seek out rebellious more being more rebellious remember verse 11 we talk about an angel a cruel angel shall be sent against the person listen to this since he was not filled with fear on account of the words of hashem's messenger of rebuke now who's the messenger at the time it could be the sage it could be the friend it could be the parent whoever cares and is giving rebuke but he's not listening to that angel meaning so the word malach doesn't always mean angel it could be messenger why did they change it they translate his angel here i'm not so sure it means angel but we'll talk about it shortly at least a messenger you senter will be unleashed against him by hashem me the connection meet a measure for measure because the one giving rebuke is called malach again a messenger or an angel we'll see it doesn't really matter at this point it could be either one meaning the person giving the rebuke is going to be a messenger but sometimes we don't pick it up and then hashem sends his angels they're also giving rebuke right that through the tragedies through the trials through the tribulations that's god's message measure for measure speaking to you we can pick that up too that's also through the malachim through the angels however you want to look at it i'll just read the comment here the word malach sometimes means angel but it can also mean messengers and you can see that in in the rashi on numbers and numbers chapter 20 verse 16. i'll just read the the words we cried out to the lord and he heard our voice he sent an angel and he took us out of egypt and now we're in kadesh a city on the edge of your border which angel who took us out of egypt moshe moshe was god's faithful messenger rashi says what does it mean an angel this refers to moses from here we derive the prophets are called angels prophets are called angels they're messengers and and and malach and whether it's the spiritual energy that we call angels they're messengers of god or human prophets they're messengers of god i want to go back to one other idea that i kind of skipped and back into the verse itself where we say that uh rebuke penetrates the heart of a man of understanding more than the hitting of a fool a hundred times so robinione explains what does it mean a man of understanding that's one who has the ability to understand and also wants to understand sometimes you can have the ability but you don't want to understand sometimes you don't have the ability but you do want to understand so hopefully we're talking about someone who is both but you can always pray if you want to understand that alone hashem will support you and give you understanding um i spoke about this recently about like king solomon king solomon what did he pray for another to be understanding and he would be able to judge correctly and then god gave him everything he you know what abilities do you want god asked him and he wanted an understanding heart and through that he was granted everything so just ask for it right such a person will be inspired by the rebuke to mend their ways whereas a fool can be motivated only by extremely harsh punishment that would be that would fit in well with verse 11 oh he oh he who is only rebellious seeks evil and a cruel angel be sent against him that would be the extremely harsh punishment as angels or energy that's used like that okay so let's continue ah oh so here in in second in second chronicles in second chronicles chapter 36 verse 16 it says hashem god of the fathers had addressed them through his messengers but they only insulted the messengers of god again these are the prophets and scorned his words and taunted his prophets until the wrath of hashem rose up against his people beyond remedy so this verse describes the stubbornly sinful behavior of the jewish people in the verb in the years leading up to the destruction of the first temple okay let's continue odd um king solomon peace be upon him peace be upon him it's further stated over there this you'll find in michele in proverbs chapter 15 verse 10. harsh discipline will come to him who forsakes the way he who hates he who hates reproof shall die you see there's not good consequences for those who shun and push away the rebuke okay so i i do have a comment on a certain verse beforehand i just want to bring it down in deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 16 this you shall circumcise the foreskin of your heart therefore and be no more stiff neck this is a directive from the torah this is why accepting rebuke listening is so important right it's like a command not like a command and not everyone list this as one of the 613 commandments because it's not something okay i just do and therefore i fulfilled it this is a constant this is a life mission right hopefully we're more there than not there but i just want to get that point across okay so going back to proverbs chapter 15 10. what does it mean stern discipline is for one who forsakes the path one who hates reproof will die emmett moussa the ivor al-divreitar the truth is that stern discipline would call you sareem is actually appropriate for one who has forsaken the path and transgresses the word of the torah vias but guess what there's still hope there's still hope that you will be chastised the person will be chastised with certain stern discipline and change their way that is the positive the way to look at when uh rebuke comes from hashem right this harsh punishment so to speak that this is this is hope i know it sounds crazy right this is hope ki ein lo tikvah worse often this person however is one who hates republic rebuke because he has no hope and cannot be fixed with even stern discipline so take a different attitude renew reframe a different attitude when either rebuke comes or hashem rebukes through you through angels through harsh punishment of achas but rather for this evil person who hates rebuke he will surely die there's only one remedy and that is death because the one who commits a sin is simply overpowered by desire and he's deceived by his evil the attack show more low see who is this person he's he's bitter inside right there's no hope he's not looking forward he's not optimistic he doesn't have a relationship with hashem that he wants to continue to grow with and create a palace for himself in the world to come he's just not at all interested in um in spirituality but he has totally given over uh his self to his yates and his evil inclination but it is possible he feels terrible that he cannot muster the strength to stand up to his yetzer haram perhaps deep inside he even longs for desire of reproof and looks forward to being disciplined but about sonia tokhaka kevor knows him no ashman but perhaps he's already given up all hope right yoish is no hope he's given up [Music] perhaps he even has given all that up and it's like he hates repute he hates rebuke and he's given up any aspect of rectifying their soul the cena these are very strong words for he his hate for repu rebuke is actually a testament to the fact that he despises the word of hashem my truth is i do have two comments here that i noticed that i wanted to share so previously rabboni rabbiniona spoke about a person who refuses to listen to rebuke from other people such a person might still do chuba when he's visited by divine rebuke in the form of the surim in the form of of pains and troubles here by contrast romani ona speaks about a person who not only hates rebuke from other people he actually hates divine rebuke there's no hope for such a person now the last comment he makes is that at times a person truly wants to do what is right but nevertheless he finds it too difficult to overcome as yet sorrow however with some external stimulus either in the form of rebuke from a torah scholar or in the form of external pains and trials the person might be able to prevail so hashem is doing hashem is doing a kindness by sending you a wake-up call a sinner who truly wishes to change his way might eagerly await the boost of reproof that god can provide for him okay so we're going to end there um i i it was a pretty heavy class obviously these things need to be reviewed constantly right this is not just a one-off teaching this is something that we should live with internalize and used to hopefully reframe our attitude when rebuke comes our way because it would be a missed opportunity that may never come again seize the moment and uh pick yourself up right a sadiq falls seven times but he keeps getting up okay misrat hashem i wish everyone a shiva tov a great week and a great life and they will see you as rather shem next week i'm gonna take questions now from the zoom 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