Ep. 17: As He Sees It with Rabbi Aharon Blesofsky

This week the world lost aid and a true friend to many [Music] benalamovski. [Music] Over the years I myself have spent countless hours by bringing listening and talking to Rabar Basovski. A number of months ago when the the podcast among was launched, the first interview that I conducted was with Ari and for technical due to technical reasons, it was not released and on Thursday of last week it was decided that we were going to release recording with this Sunday and unfortunately on Chabas he passed away. This is the first interview that I conducted and therefore the style of my interviews have changed since then as I've learned different uh things of on how to conduct interviews and I hope that it should be and to the enjoyment and benefit of many due to Ari's state of health at the time his talking may sound a little unclear but if you listen in, you'll get the style and it is definitely worth it since there is so much content and it is always a pleasure to hear's candid real way of talk and I'm cayman. Welcome to among an ongoing fabin about life as our vibrant connection with theb and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. Okay. So I met you by the yesterday. It's your uh it's your birthday right? >> I met you by your but go ahead. >> Yeah. Uh but not everyone your age sits by the aisle the whole day on their birthday. >> But people walk around. Yeah. They walk around the aisle. >> Can't walk. Otherwise, I'd be walking around smoozing. >> But that that you've always done. You've always sat by. >> I was always Yeah. Yeah. >> The uh they say that he said in Zach he never left the fab before it's over. So I think they could say the same thing about you. No. >> Almost. >> I have a very weak platter. >> Yeah. Yeah, that but that that's not good for staying by because of that. Yeah, you know the story of the shoe >> that it wasn't wide enough label or directly to that wanted that in front of >> it should be in front of him happens to be that's the best spot but they didn't want to make it there and want to make it cover with the deb was worried more about these old guys getting their pants wet than his cover. You have to you have to understand the of the story. I I remember every step of it. >> So the say is that the >> Reb saw people going middle of going over benches. I'm sure to know him also these are older guys talking a guy over 70 getting over benches. I can appreciate it now with heart. >> Right. So you think of the shield made it a little easier. In other words, once he got to the shield, he had his way out providing Benji let him out. But Benji did because would would be watching each one of them. So >> Benji Sock. >> Yeah. >> He was he was him and Benji labeler labeler Kum the one that got killed in car accident. There were two guys who stood there. Yeah. >> 16. Yeah. >> And everyone said what >> he was before. He was he was before. >> So I actually heard from David once. I was on by and was saying but what you're saying that the rebba wanted the and he was trying to explain it he said in the later years it stopped bakim started standing there and some of those people some of those bakim didn't make it after because it was was negative that part I'll put into a big fat question mark but the first part is 100% True killed people after didn't kill people. >> I know. Did I answer the guy Klein? Not not Klein. Forgot his last name. He was um by the non labist. The non laber his last name. He was one kid after the other. >> You said Klein. >> It wasn't Klein. It was a common name. It was not Klein. says climb because it's the first thing he was losing one kid after the other car accident but um slick guy you know he spoke English well and he to go to a to a nightclub not you know what what did he do he was and he lived on Montgomery where Gunsburg lives. Easy Ginsburg at the next house, one of those big houses there. There's two, three big houses. He moved out. When he moved out, a lot of his friends moved along with him. And it was this is after he moved away and whatever it was maybe had a long was a long answer. went public there. >> And the is not going to not that's when I hear stories about [Music] this little section going. [Laughter] But you see by the previous there are stories like that that there's >> but you're right that there's a lot of that would write to the like oh there's a caped and say there's no I don't I don't have a >> but this guy wasn't on the bar so but knew who he's writing to also besides being smart Jew very perceptive and he happened to know the guy he came to not every time but he was smart enough to know it's a good place to What was his name? He was president Harold Puria. You know Harold Pur? >> Yeah, I know him from you. >> You mean you know? >> I heard about it from you. >> Oh, okay. He's the one that said beard for both of us. >> What? >> When they asked him why he doesn't have a beard? You have a >> Yeah. >> Al beard for both of us. That's his the depths of his um whatever >> and did he also learned for the homish? >> He learned not only for Harold he did for the one that passed away. Yeah. >> He also didn't know him. You know of him you know him now. >> No I know his children you know. You don't show them. >> No. >> Show them happens to be here now. You have a a daughter in Florida having an upset or something. I guess it's in the winter there now. In the summer to that. Yeah. >> Is off now. >> Oh yeah. I guess it's >> a Rebi. You can't just walk out, >> right? So you brought it from the two hours a day. Every day of the week. >> He what? >> He two hours a day. >> Every day. Every single day two hours a day three hours >> in Australia. >> No, it continued in Australia too. He went on film till about 3 months before he passed away. >> Maybe Friday. No. And he had to buck to help him. Nobody pushed him. He was the when he had his visits. My father was a fresh brand new lavage. He was born in Tin Bass. Father became lab in Teen Bass. >> In Tinian Bass, your father became Lav >> 10 years later. >> But in the beginning, you know, you don't become Lava and you jump into everything. But by you by your dollars, he was already into everything coming. And >> he lived in the Crown Heights. >> No, he lived in Williamsburg. >> So you b you were born in Williamsburg also. >> I was born in Williamsburg. And he used to slept me every time. >> You would walk from Williamsburg. >> Could you imagine 5 years old? I mean not right away not when I was three when I was seven. So I had my brother up in bed on one side on the other side. You also live in Williamsburg and all my shoes could have been in front. I didn't walk previously. >> You slept good. I enjoyed it. It was fun. You know the vibration of the toes. >> So when when did your father when did your parents move to Kit? >> The week of my sister's wedding. He was a malik. Who moves in the middle of a Even as a kid was what the heck couldn't wait another week to move. So when your older brother grow grew up he like grew up as a malik uh his formative he had a lab ready don't forget my father had a bble green glassass so my father became a lab more and more and he realiz green glass >> bel's wife and my mother sisters >> oh w now a long time ago with a vis took piano lessons he didn't go to um to gym. What is it called? >> Gymnasium. >> He didn't go to gymnasium. But his parents wore father beard. You have to understand those days wouldn't touch his beard. He sent him to piano lessons, violin lessons, and um had a good head, a very fine mind, good imagination, too. That's why he's such a good storyteller. You ever watch his tapes? >> I've seen the videos. You >> see videos of me tape videos? Yeah, >> I was pretty close with him. >> But you didn't learn in Montreal. >> I never learned. But I I never didn't learn in Montreal. >> The Reb called him my makub >> one time said 100 times. No, nobody remembers that was my I remember it. That was >> You remember what happened? >> What? >> You remember what happened? >> What the was? No. >> No. No. >> No. It was after I was telling certain people and always stood a a little bit lower and he never wanted to have a direct eye eye contact. It was happened with him like that that woman. So somebody already knew the name. So he figured see reluctantly he gets up and knows >> but I heard about the about green glass I heard from laser knew him well. Yes, I heard I heard from him that said my green glass he didn't he didn't want to show himself you know in front of the rabbis like he was like hiding the details it's possible it's the same time could be it's a different time >> no I think it only happened once could be happened twice I'm not saying it didn't happen more than once but as far as I know what happened to him once after I b died he was biased by IC treated him so he came he came >> you're talking about Isaac okay >> on Union Street >> Mhm. before he dropped dead. He he literally dropped dead. He went to a birthday party and killed over and he was when came his body was already not cold but that's an exaggeration. He died on the spot. A cold ponu. He um needed a place to say he couldn't stay by anymore. Only I wife would home. So he asked me to consider me. He said my biggest forgetting no problem. And he had no problem with either of course if I had kids in the house, boys. Those people coming and going. So he asked my wife, she was bring him. And uh he said, "Where do you get your meat?" So I said, "I'm not pregnant." So when I came home and he ate it, the tenacity to answer that way had no inhibitations. whatever came through his mouth just everyone thinks wasn't a bum but he wasn't I don't know what his turning point was I think when he lost his wife it broke him he lost his first wife >> you know who she was >> it's not your it's not that not your >> no that wife he had one one one daughter passed away less than a year ago Her name was Luba. Her father was shuv. He spoke a deep Russian. He was cousin to all theans. His mother was asking and he when when started arriving in in Melbourne, he moved to the other neighborhood where Hadas what it called the other neighborhood had. Are you Australian or anything? >> There's two communities area. They call it's like >> that's like with the everything. >> Yeah. And everything looks better than that. I'm talking about the kids saying look better. Um he moved there not because he was he was clean shaven. >> He's from Russia. >> So before came he made sure he was clean shaven. So you were saying before. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get back to that. Baby he turned um >> he was born. So Tin baby was born. So Tin I guess would be right. So that's was talking about a lot those years. I was talking a lot about but heard my father my brother >> your brother. >> Yeah. And then he told he told him >> the was saying that he's going to be said he would >> interest he was he was after the last day of I mean last day he was >> he was learning in your brother >> at that point but he no I'm going to get to that when he came by mvville realized my father you You can take you can take out of but you can't take the out of even the couldn't >> out of your father. I listen to it a hund times and I know my father well. I can see exactly what the >> what the say what was what was the trying to what was >> I asked him. He never answered me. So the Reb wanted your father to do something to >> he wrote to apparently he wrote to the and answered him and he wrote back his answer again. So always when he wanted to get something done he did the same thing with he wanted to get a raise. How did he do it? He said it's tried privately. does help in >> that week they got increased another $12 a week. I mean the Reb said something similar about the whole story with the Reb had a few there's a few and the Reb said if nothing happens then I will speak about it so he said >> I didn't even know about that but I just saw every time I wanted something to go through after a lot of attempts he did >> um how was like do you ever spoke about your father to your father about the fact that he became a I can't >> We'll get that to a second. So, let me finish my brother. So, he realized my you can take my father my father. So, and he was he told >> the deba said that about your father. >> No, no, no. This is >> you're saying >> I'm saying no was he was our uncle. >> He told my father you should come see me. I'll take care of him. I'm you know he's not going in the strange place. He's going to Montreal Canada. He'll have a a nas stayed in the dorm but sh his uncle. >> He went to Montreal for three years. >> I see. He became a Montreal. >> He Montreal I guess that was then he went to New York for two years but he went to 770 but he never went he came to Beth Dean a week before or a month before Pes when the kitchen was closed. Those didn't take a date to change. Mushi did the one with the tell story. >> I don't want to keep hearing but she was the the one that prepared the kitchen. >> Who was it? >> Mus those days. She had maybe a go helping two go. >> She did everything. The whole mentality then was weird and like come in the kitchen. You don't have any come to go in the kitchen to pay. So the kitchen was closed. He came to bed for eat lunch. I saw my brother. >> I understand where was he learning? >> 770 maybe. >> He's learning 770. But he wanted to make >> but he closed the kitchen. >> He closed the kitchen 77. >> He could have gone home but he wouldn't. So you went to Bedford and the bus took him to Bedford. >> Okay. >> School bus. >> So you were then in Bedford. >> I still have a kid. >> He saw your brother coming to eat lunch. When I waved to him, come come wave back since passed away. >> No, I wasn't. He was a kid there. You can't even grasp it. It's a lip battle wave to them with >> this is that's a it's a thing not answer or it's >> a cultural thing >> it's a cultural thing which culture Russian American >> actually I don't know why I'm using the word cultures very disculture >> it's disculture but where does the culture come from >> were developing then you have to understand the buck from Russia that culture was dying out. Then the American culture came in that was too much already. So this was like a a freaky adjustment period the late years and early that was the closest then my brother went to Montre because I told you why after he went to but he learned in Dece on on um my story too. He learned. Oh, he learned. >> So what's the story? What's the story with the Oh, that's a story when the sent water they changed from the pants. >> That's a story when the sentim there wasn't sent anybody in particular came into the never heard the story. >> I think we >> they printed they what they printed was inaccurate. >> Well, we also printed in deer once the story >> based on them. >> I think based on conversation with you. Okay. So, hope you start. >> So, so set the record straight. No. Say the story. >> The story is the came to about 10:20, 10:15, 10:20 on his way home that night, which is because Thursday night there usually was, right? Tuesday and Thursday. What >> in the beginning it was it was three nights a week and then later was two nights a week. >> Okay. But Thursday was always, right? Used to be Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday and later became what? Sunday and Tuesday maybe I I don't remember but came with his coat and everything he walked to the about 5t into the z he spoke to the he had two guys there two guys there nobody expected talking to his shoes he used to peek in and go right and walked into the got up and he said he just made a statement They never heard of it. Well, wait. Not only they didn't have it light. He to me 100 times. He drilled into her head from Boston and he came and he said, But they were like >> Mhm. >> they walked out. So there was a debate. Crown Heist like even then in Crown Heights 10:00 the whole city was dead. So I said, "We send you a couple." So you know you heard me. I don't have to give you his background. >> Did you get background gave me his his personality? He was a wild man. He was wild in the very old case. He had that boy. He spoke >> he sang on. No. >> What son? >> A son. Son. Okay. >> Okay. So he was a wife. >> She was model was polished. She was everything was polished. >> Okay. And they um went to Williamsburg which is bus 44 stopped on Marcy and keep street whatever hooper they didn't know where to stop they went out >> I think so to them >> no we're going now it's take us at least 20 minutes to get there bus is right in the corner king bus and Uh he said I don't have a guy stopping in. Okay, he made a point. They went out took a bus country to Williamsburg had four guy. I always forget the fourth guy is but the three guys I do know and Devinsky and a fourth guy but he he just he tagged along. He was a tag along. I'm not saying anything bad. I'm not saying who it is. >> Okay. >> Four guys went >> the last guy you don't remember. Okay. They came to these words, got off the bus, they asked people in Caleum. Nobody heard of C Salem the Je the blue J this No one heard of a shoe called in Salem. They put in 20 minutes into looking for it was already to 11:00. The later it gets the less chance it is. They're ready to go on to the bus about going back to crown nights. He saw you coming. He happened to know it's called the legal name was >> said if it's open I don't know the address it's on you street between they were coming from Lee on if you go on on street between Lee and Marcy on the left side in the middle of the back and the windows are big and there can be fluorescent lighting you'll see it's just there's no sign nothing there's no sign it's a building but you'll see it's a sh was it's going to be very bright inside. They went the shield was open. There was about four or seven guys sitting there. Four or five guys. They went in looked up like you know guys with their hats down. They they stood out like my father was sitting there learning. This interesting how it gave itself overalls to the sing you know that >> it's a they also learn that there's that was reignited by this whole thing >> you're saying this is of how we're doing aad type of thing >> a lot of Because they they they hold themselves, right? >> Talking about the the founder. >> Oh, so your brother is named after the Malik full name. He was the father of him. He could have called my brother could call him battle. called him. He >> called him. No, he called him because of course Malik was called his title was Malik. >> So your father like they were Mik the Malik like like this that was their leader. >> He wasn't but >> your father never met him. Of >> course he did. >> Oh he was a kid though. >> So your father was brought to the Malik and by >> not by him by by he was dragged in by the you know what that word means, right? Yeah. >> By the gang. by the gang writes in the [Music] um women from >> your father was invad but he was in he was he was a lut in the b but he knew the best to survive He was open to though. He let you saw Jacobson come. >> He had a story. He chang you'll change your mind a little bit. >> Okay. >> He brought two guys to Yeshiva. He brought Jacobson because he was here a long time already. He had he spoke English with you Jacobson talking English. >> My s Jacobson once told my father how he learned English. He said that every day he would read the New York Times until he understood it. That's what he said. >> That's so he took a hard paper >> high vocabulary. Okay. >> Yeah. Cop him. See he was the two guys come. >> So So the mal the Malik and Jacobson would come to >> they would they would hang out. I don't even see got the guy couldn't even pay his reb. >> They're giving Shirim. >> Yeah. But he didn't like that. But he wanted there facing Sheba cuz all the other Midi shooting were mulch. >> He wanted he himself had beards. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You see all the pictures but so he attracted a certain element of everyone with their problem with their issues whatever and this can he drag my father. Why my father at the end of the day my father's father believed that never touched his beard. He was he wasn't he wasn't an Americanized bak. >> He wasn't wasn't a stone either. >> He wasn't. So what was he? >> He was boy. >> Your father's father's father was a kalina. >> Kina. Yeah. Yeah. >> Seventh generation Kalina. >> So he had a big beard. >> A big beard. A long beard. He had a beard and he wore a brim shab. He wore velour hat. So you're saying your father was already attracted to this because his father is batsome like that also. >> He was that's why he was that's why he was a candidate for these boys >> for for the >> for these kufia >> right >> he weren't taking an American boy with clean shaving Jacob with a mother without a father my mother wore shait on the day they wore full beard only the whole nine yards >> Jacobson was kind of like a real American boys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Saying but Le the Malik wanted >> Malik he didn't look at them. >> He wanted >> he didn't it was even was already more m than he was >> in the Malik >> like not as much as but you know went on in his house right >> it was >> yeah but he had people that played piano sometimes during the meal they went into the next room played piano. They were told not to but we stopped. >> Yeah. was a was a >> was a melting pot. >> Melting pot. Yeah. >> There were sto there also. I think they were a >> lot of writers there. A lot of artists a lot of as the years go by we finding their articles get they all came to that wedding the night after the Reb's wedding >> and >> thous people. So what what's with um so your father is in um so what happened to your father in m >> he he passed >> the malik >> and they didn't want the fall apart without leadership things fall apart >> right >> so they bought a building this building >> one second he it wasn't him it wasn't his >> he was there was he his job was to be in the Bronx in some rundown building shoe was getting $60 a week. So you're saying when your father's sitting there in Williamsburg when these bakam showed up it's not like the malas he was in in high school by the time he got me they already they already opened their own yeshiva and not a formal yeshiva in the puh which is I forgot what street right off the vision the piv was a place that was open from 6:00 in the morning till 12 at night like the sham sh on 13th Avenue. Yeah. >> Opened all day and they had their corner. They sat and learned. It was 12 guys, 14 guys. Father was one of them. Then they bought their building. They made their own minions. They were happy. I think my father was the only Korean from the whole group. So when he became a barish, I'm jumping ship. But uh he was a Korean was a lady and initial group and people on the block didn't care who were you know convenient like American boy Jews. A lot of people weren't that good on his block. They weren't that good on his I could just show on the show. Yes. On the block. So my father got married very young. Got married at 20. He was born in pal. He got married in Toshal and um what are you up to? So he stayed in Malin. This is an interesting story between my father and the I don't know if you went I never asked >> your father had sha before this whole story tin >> tin physically had a second stroke >> right >> my father was an open mind always inquisitive again I don't know I never asked him he went tin to here that night he went It wasn't during the week and the was G door dormen was very sick then that I wanted to make sure not more than 15 guys go at a time and then he wouldn't let him more until those 50 were out. She came to the door. My father was uh you know was how old is you? 23 24 came to the door and was already closing the door. He answered like crowds was pulling it open and he saw my father. He grabbed him by his wrist and he pulled him in. So that was in my opinion that was the beginning >> right into the um into the hall. We're going to to salon they call it salon. He was there 50 minutes room. Oh the the dining room salon. >> The dining room. >> Salon was room salon in the middle. You were >> I was there the dining room. >> It's open now. It's a library. >> Yeah. Not today but yeah I've been there. Yeah. >> No I'm saying but it's it's an accessible room. I don't think now but it was >> Oh, he stopped. >> Yeah. I mean, it was in my life. >> He started missing or something or whatever. Doesn't matter. >> I don't know. >> He um there was then was still a mali. He he had debates with him about one of the things he spoke about. One of the debates they had, my father had with these four guys. >> Oh. These guys that came that night. So they walked in >> and they started talking to and your father >> they spoke till 3 or 3:30 in the morning. >> Uhhuh. And um in the morning not a young but he was and he spoke a sh and he comes Friday morning the doll is empty does something [Music] >> be there Friday morning >> Friday morning it bothered him he got up late but asked me if he slept to 3 hours. She came in like 20 to 9 which is Friday s start at 8 but it's already 40 minutes late comes right under the clock this guy sitting there with a hat and a jacket and he looks really he sitting without a hat without a jacket. If you don't know somebody, >> right? >> He didn't know his name. >> Your father said that to to >> he he said to my father, "Oh, okay." She says, "Why are you here?" She says, "We spoke yesterday. They want to continue the conversation and the rest is history. >> Wow. So that moment your father became a >> which which moment are you talking about that night? >> That night >> also Major Dinsky did this classic on my father gave him you had a white beard. He had a white beard very young. I don't know if you know me with one you als are you aware of it? >> No. >> Okay. When did he pass away? >> He was quite old. >> Old he passed away in oil. I think after me dinsky >> few years before give or take a few years from Gim. >> Okay. >> He wasn't a youngster and um that's history I knew before my father started coming to the found out about it. They won't follow him that every rushing after came late rushing they smell the rotten pier they followed him they realize he went to so they put he went this story heard from the open the zerans are also from the >> right he not >> I'm talking about is telling me the story okay >> for the young the cat. Oh, it's like it's like the beginning of called the cat. >> No, there was the cat. So we put on him and it was interesting they waited till my brother had okay my father became whatever and he we can't give him anymore he's not that he was or anything start giving the name to my brother my brother had all the lingo is also becoming it's like it's so comical you can't if I wouldn't know it for a fact I would I wouldn't believe it so they gave him the aliyah and also he had a holy name in bed >> right >> he has a he gave him the father he went to finished earlier went to started was nine. We needed that hour talk to her to Williamsburg >> to Kates >> and me to from Williams to Kates. Yeah. God, I remember being dragged when I came to I don't think I even walked inside right away. I found my friends. >> How old are you? >> Started I was being dragged to to Crown after six, seven years old. >> You were learning in labage. >> That's indeed. I'm the only one from all my brothers that Toy was born. They were all born before I was the only one that was born after. >> But you didn't go into the fab that age. >> One man between the second part was a 10-year-old kid. >> How many kids were in? two or two or three that the parents made sure but it was it wasn't a thing for kids now wasn't in the culture later became they haven't been into at the year went by >> later later in the middle of the >> menem I know that you know how many times they telers >> kids I mean right we're not going to get into that >> they're growing up by the by the rabb's doing expressions. It actually happened >> literally. Yes. It wasn't it wasn't um wasn't muscle. We moved to the ground to me moving to Crown I smell like got laid from Williamsburg to from an apartment building to two family house in the building. He smelled fish smells urine in the stairwells. I mean it was horrible >> where I live n street living in a two family house with a garden with a basement with an attic. I mean to meet with her I was more into him 70 since I'm 10 years old and I was home my best friend I forgot that part I'm forgetting to tell you >> was me and him were like brothers we were soul brothers we're very different but we're in the same grade since Kital till we got married she went together sheep went to I can go closer went together So he lips I don't know if you know it they were very much into that being >> lips was you know misle his whole essence of was being there turned me into a lipker in that respect >> so you're so >> I was more when I came home I stop and I ran from and I would come on 9 9:30 and father was two in came on 4 4:30 5:00 I left the house I came back at 9:00 what did you do those four albums well I said there wasn't enough time I was talking to this my father looked at me like what to me was heaven so hang the lipkers are the ones that got you into the whole culture being my place Yeah. >> So you gravitated towards that. >> I loved it. It was heaven. You know, even when the reb wasn't there, the whole atmosphere was coming tonight, you know, was going in, you know, everything was. >> So you would stay with the >> They were annoyed with all hell being small. They couldn't stand before they were >> see the the culture kicked in. >> Yeah. We we enjoyed, you know, >> so you What years are you talking about? >> So you were hanging around every night when and whatever whatever is going on. >> No. >> So you were with the every night? >> Yeah. I was downstairs playing was all me was all the same. I didn't too young to appreciate to be you think now you're thinking hindsight there's a god there's a sh doesn't see what I'm saying >> so you don't always think about it but it's there exactly >> you can't you can't have a world without any of those things by the >> yeah when I got older already as much as I didn't listen you were dragged into that atmosphere here if every pubian without fail know 16 17 18 came out of the pavlangan chabas there cars driving what's what's going on here the world out there when you publang I'm sure you heard the slime from other people >> not necessarily >> you came out to the streets there's a world out there you were just you were just in the vas you come out no it's telib She's saying so like and then unbelievable. >> Oh no shabas wanted to continue then he got that settle from the ladies. >> She's saying the was a whole new >> even came they came about 3 330 >> the crown height the crown heights and the babish came for that. even everyone had to have one of the things they're Jews. I had a teacher once, he was teaching us sixth grade says the definition of >> okay that's how yeah >> or maybe that's how he was. No, no, no. When I was a kid, that was the expression, right? >> That was a put down. That was the ultimate put down, >> right? >> They came al he heard that. >> So, so the whole sha >> not the whole sh I just was mugged him. He went to bed. He went 770 got married to an arab girl. He was clean shaven. Hagami had a brother in Israel with a full beard radical himself was a businessman. He didn't come from a rubbish background. He only went from the 70s because was convenient maybe trans. I really never asked him why once the got involved once >> but he now he became like the the >> later even when the stopped giving out the >> he would tell him >> he wrote to he wrote to said no you and theb knew when he tells him the whole object tell every shabas >> every shabas he was told by the same who told him >> that there's going to be >> that you use those words that >> which is yeah >> yeah in 30 seconds knew but we would know about this is after deting so we didn't have the the luxury of knowing >> that the plan >> the plan what do you have to plan whatever >> we knew we have at least we have now time should we run home to Miki for the family or it's too late >> I Um I once heard from someone in Crown Heights, he said that um you know when when we found out that there's going to be a faban in Shabas afternoon because if you think about it, how what percentage of the crowd even understood the low a low a low percentage >> that he came to the >> but like but yet but it was like no it was a faban and you Balavage don't >> yeah he's saying >> I'll tell you in the other cal I was sitting with a rangaluchi with somebody else I forget who guy was and started then this is in the mess already started foring not stop more often quite quite more often >> the the mess I was playing more often than not >> right starting They didn't get excited. Certain guys I was sing and the guy came down to like 10 minutes after that we found out from Waldman whatever whatever it took to find out and the table started being rearranged and one guy said again. So uh when the guy walked >> away this worse said how could it be worse the guy doesn't even say oi how how's that worse he's not coming anyway >> this guy this guy that said oh he's not coming anyway >> no the guy who's not saying oi guy saying oh he knows he has to come he knows he have to Yeah. >> No one was taking attendance to see you have to come to check your car. >> Only you and took and and the reb took attendance. >> The reb knew who was there. Somebody that came home apparently not here that was saying okay the guy checked out at time I I knew who it is but it's a long time >> but you never you never miss the >> no even when I got married. The only time I've missed something is also that the had the groundbreaking and I knew what's going on but I had customs and I told him I'll be there at 4:00. Tell the guy the next day. >> So that was the middle of the week, >> right? During the week >> the groundbreaking 7:7 >> Shabas never never was a time I didn't even go home. >> So you're saying but you were ready since you're a kid. You're >> I was I was Yeah. Even so, even even if I lacked the to I'm not here to put myself down the rope. It was part of why >> you saying Africa, you understood. >> It was if I put my mind to it, not all of them, but if I put my mind to it, I would I'm not showing off. >> You weren't doing >> and was always in the background and sometimes I had what they're saying, but I didn't have the guys. You had guys like we turn around give you a little there's a hierarchy how it works. >> Yeah. 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Go to.org/ org/our days order your set today and start living with but you had like you had um like a connection to Yale even though you weren't like part of the or anything you know >> yeah I had a my connection to Yale happened in um in I was the first one to pick up the gimm >> he would never teach us a new until we knew the old >> where does the whole thing in the bas come from my father's He would >> he would not not >> where in America even in Europe >> even in Europe. Yeah. >> As a matter of fact that saved his life. >> He was drafted in the Russian army at the age of 16. Not because he's 16. He had a brother David who passed away at the age of 11 and 12 when the draft those wasn't computed or anything or telephones came to his house to pick up David said David passed away passed away he does David was built well he's not he's not David he's Abraham or whatever the however they come out in Russian they didn't believe him they took him they pack up and go told you he had to pack up and they came be married. He said, "Do you have any special talents?" He said, "You musical." He played a tuber in the Russian march band which always performed in Moscow, Lingrad, whatever it was then. And he didn't go to the front. But then the war broke out in Turkey. I think the Russian had a Russian Turkey. You know history better than I >> Russian Turkey War. >> I guess not that well. Yeah. >> Russian Japanese. >> Japanese. He was worried about being he had his week off and on his way home >> in the times of the rabbi the Russian he was born in 1890. >> Okay. >> So he's talking about 18 1910 1911. Well no even earlier 1907 1906 on his way home he stopped by he's worried that even he's a musician but when they're going to need more guys in front say he would we need people in the front. So he told him go to America start America America's today you go to America he says you'll be you'll be fine but I just have a haste went home and partyed with his parents took him about a year to get here because he had to work for a train ticket work and to be a push card guy to make his ticket. Finally collected enough money to buy a ticket to New York. Actually he landed in in Chicago that was a port of entry. Everyone thinks he came in Ellis Island came the somebody said he came to Ellis. He came to the American border. More people arrived between Detroit and Chicago than Ellis Island. >> Yeah. >> Ellis Island the famous place because he put up the statue of living there. >> But most of them he went there and they his father's brother was buddy on the dock. Oh, how are you? Yeah, he doesn't didn't even know him. He knew he's there and he saw she said to him tomorrow morning that's coming off. He does and the beard. He said if you want to live here in America, you'll never get married with a beard. You'll never get a job. He says, "Let me worry about it." He stayed with him for a few months and then he threw him out because he was more unemployed than employed. It wasn't poor but you know to feed another mouth and the guy not contributing anything and he was more annoyed in the whole thing that the guy not adjusting to the American so he threw him out and he went on his own and it was one night he decided that tomorrow that's his father who was still alive came to him his father was still alive came to him in a dream he says these three words Abraham this You usually hear about a death person. >> Alive father came to in a dream said >> he needed an extra push. Eventually he got married. They think my Bubba was either four or six years older than him. Why'd you take him? She was she was >> your your grandma. >> My my elder her father was >> Mhm. I'm not sure whether she was or but she wasn't >> she know even with the stolen >> matter of fact there's a whole story about this an interesting story go back so this is the whole this is how the got to America >> that's a single >> but what she saying she because of the Of course. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We won that. So, he used to go, "Yeah, he liked my singing style because I was the first one." He would never go on. At least somebody knows it. So, he went to the next song. He said, "No, wait. This is the Bedford." He was doing the >> This is every Friday, every Shabbat afternoon between between the and I think >> he did this he did this Yale did this his whole life. >> I used to go to to Yale. Yeah. But like now I'm thinking about next room that ever heard singing for sure >> in the vibr you mean >> which is now which is now labeled office labels got >> oh you mean this is this is >> in the original7 [Music] that's the started >> I don't understand I don't understand what you're talking about >> labels office used to be the vibel the only vib >> vial of what >> 770 >> oh you're talking about the first 770 that >> when they actually built the roof >> that was the real >> when when they built over the roof. Yeah. >> So the label's office was the vibr next to the deb's room. >> And it was sort of about >> 10 5t away from the deb's room. >> 10 ft whatever heard it for sure. I'm sure he enjoyed it too. You know >> you didn't think about it then? You didn't think about it then that the deb sitting a few feet away from you >> because the whole place is so small. The kid I used to play. >> Who was by this? This was a >> banim was it for kids you call 15 >> it was Yale students in Bedford that were come to boys just 13 14 >> it's very interesting that Yale in those years he was teaching young Baham he wasn't teaching all the Bakam we weren't to understand >> was he able to relate to people >> in his own way I liked him because in the beginning otherwise way of talking with weird >> soak didn't appreciate and I and Dang it was like four or five guys who who got him we we got his essence not >> he blame for you too right >> he told us stories as much as he can bring himself down to say he knew it's 15 year olds and not tells the story but he would tell us very fleshing stories He told his jokes, very jokes. I think I mentioned to you, but I at least once he told us story was acting like he's very smart. He when he thinks of a funny story, he starts laughing. >> That's how that's how he left. You know what that means? Yeah. >> Enlightened was learning >> is in labage. >> This is >> what are you talking about? You're talking about a story that Yale said. >> Yale telling us a story in in Bethine in and with us this wasn't during learning. an hour. He had all these tin that made the story interesting. >> You acted out the story. >> Yeah. And this was like a famous never heard of the may have heard of it. They didn't know it's famous. said when he they were shocking and the guy the speaker they never heard of him either. So he said what why are you so excited about that today? Hey, you know who's coming today to let's see the um the Barclays. You know who's coming to the Barclays today to speak battle. >> Okay. He looked at the he London. So he also had asked him so I think that was for sure. >> Okay. >> You can see from the question let me ask you a question. He asked me in English. How far is it from you? It sounds better to joke, but I have no choice. How far is it from from Moscow or from Lenrad to Tel on the spot? The guy says astronomy is not my specialty. >> Astronomy go on my mish. That's not my specialty. astronomy. Not my every time told the story at least 10 times he start laughing. >> That's the punch line is calling geography. He's mixing it up. It's like uh I heard that um I heard that um so after he was looking you know he was telling the Bak I heard this from >> he wasn't the only one but okay >> I heard this from one of the Bak that I heard this from a >> the world is totally destroyed >> right so he's looking so anyways he went to c the end of the story is that he came to the rabba and that was it right you know >> came yeah with you. You mean he became a vish? Yeah. I'm saying >> but where was the stepping stone? He was in Montreal. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying so one of the things he says is he went to a certain a famous who will will remain nameless for now and he goes to said don't go said before you talk to me and learning you should just know disclaimer I only know the said I saw Yeah, it's a hung line. He loved by the way first. He loved him for his once he got to know on a personal level and he had that He loved the Reb was if you would hear you say something bad about the Reb. He didn't care where he was standing would treat him. He would lay sin on you. You know the story. You know my >> you know who he is. >> Yeah, >> right. If he went by Fabangan that would was a new a new safe ra coming up and was either a day before the fabang the day after or that day and that went like this the was like struggling to a lot of people like I'm using the word struggling for lack of a better word everybody's like some people knew it some people had it on on the table said back. >> Yeah. >> Like with like with the with the M, you know. >> Okay. Yeah. >> You stay with the M. Yeah. >> Father, my father. I told you before. >> Never want them to correct. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. And my father the next week was the Gabby and it was a complicated week with this and that like three different mas. My father took a started inching it over to the picked up his wife and gave him a look. He took that. But you just told us to do it. >> Okay. No. No. So, okay. So, >> so sober [Music] said I don't know his story happened first. So just telling you um he's a guy that that was asking he wasn't your he wasn't your he wasn't even he wasn't even okay was cool but the is asking the English and gave him a kn thank you >> yeah the liked it >> and the repeated the whole whatever it's called. >> Oh, you're talking about the >> right he start. >> Yeah. >> One of them wasn't that one a different one. >> He's saying the acknowledged it like he appreciated >> appreciated it. >> Was like this like >> Yeah. And was looking at dag know who it's coming from, >> right? Don't don't get >> You're saying if Arabovski did it, the dagger eyes are warranted. Did it. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> Exactly. >> He's helping the Reb. He wants to help. Actually, he reminded me that um there's someone there's a video as the Reb comes into shul and the Reb is giving out coins to the children like he did and basically the Reb's talis is falling and it even >> it's out of it's out of whack. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and it even goes over off the Reb's head. The Reb is very mid >> No, the never No, that's if it falls off. It falls off entirely with the but even the head. Okay. But it was was nice. >> Fell off once. >> Went all the way. >> Oh, he went all the way. Yeah. >> The whole shoe was talking about >> Okay. Yeah. >> So, so the is very to always have his head covered the talis the whole time he's in cover. >> I think so. Yeah. It's like not walking out of saying has his head covered. >> Yeah. So the Reb So the middle of the reb the the towels is falling and the Reb is it's almost falling off. It's short. It comes off the head in Gans. >> Somebody wanted to do that. >> No, no. So someone and then even when gets to his place, Reb is like fixing it the whole time. So someone posted a clipping of this video on WhatsApp. Someone else writes on WhatsApp. What's the gishmack to post this video, you know, like, you know, with the talis? Okay. Then afterwards on the same uh group someone else someone someone else wrote >> oh this went on one of the WhatsApp groups >> yeah now yeah someone posted the video of this someone else says what are you posting such a video right you know and uh >> yeah whatever and then >> no the answer was >> one second so someone else wrote actually let me tell you a story that I heard from that was there when this happened and he said I was there this pisha told me that he was there when this happened that have his towel fell off and that's when I almost yeah and that's when I understood why because in any other cries if it was a or any other all of a sudden the no the would run in to help him and but all the mas standing around no no no >> pure mo what happened if you know the background to the story that's pure >> the bay story >> oh the bay you know say the story >> you the story you I know right. You want me to repeat the whole story? >> As a matter of fact, he once mentioned that after he said he said laugh >> it happened a few times >> made the rebel laugh a few times a few stories >> see because he he didn't do as a matter of fact but out of name the guy who started making him realized that laughs he also did not because he was making mistake he would say that isn't >> but when you say The little of advent is funny. He also did it. They give a look like you need a you have to go to a doctor. >> Don't try this at home. >> Yeah. Kosh that look was like >> Yeah. >> was a cheap shot. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So what's the ma with the dashi? So Zama gets up when he got up and he said [Music] no turned around. He was wiped for a lack of a better word that I was enraged and he came away from his place. He left to sit on mid closed. I was there. I didn't hear the I was there when I came before the most times I walked in the show 20 30 maybe 40. >> This is after the before. >> He announced before the say that was a >> before ding. Okay. That's why I told you before the Wman that we then we had to wait till after Ding to find out before he appreciated. Yeah. Was before Ding. >> So we had time to arrange with the family with the wives. It was two and a half. >> So you were there when he made this announcement. >> I was there. >> That was turn first. It was scary. That was like his color was gone. And he came came home. He passed that shed and he was talking loud. He I don't want to say the words yelling but he was yelling but forgot the wording bling today but [Music] the guy tells me every week it was Stewie his nickname was Stewie Silverstein he did meaning >> someone else told him >> somebody told him he was dub many wolf and somebody There's nothing no lo on them. I'm telling you a story cab just I found out later these detail I couldn't notice then later when I did my research and they were talking today this is the kind of that would talk >> so they weren't trying to make a stick. Oh, she says, "What should I say?" So Manny being many, you know, many. >> Yeah. And then Yeah. >> You know, space. So he goes in he waits till he didn't come down was the one that told he was being already >> never told his son. He would tell he would tell Ver. He meant well. He meant well. As soon as you 10 years, I think he's 10 years ago. 12 years. You know who he is? Yes. He had a son that rid Well, he's white already. You know what I'm talking about? Bak in his 40s. You know who he is. His father, he was the first kindergarten pre-1A teacher in Bethine. Pepsine didn't have a P1A till the late 60s fifth first grade and that's his came to yeshiva no alis no nothing came to you had a rebby teach and by the time P was around you you learn you knew how to learn how to read it >> but not so much came in and he he waited and he didn't want to tell he's going to save the day. He went up I wasn't there when he said it but she told [Music] the guy who told you I wanted So the room went out the was waiting for the guy who told Z still he was trembling like he went over and he said he said was like 10 ft away from the I I told him told him was it was it was so obvious. Yes. the mateman that wanted to know who was the >> who was the head and in reality there was no hat the whole >> was a mistake whatever misunderstanding but the point I'm making about >> oh yeah what's the point you don't it doesn't matter if it's a mistake or not you don't make when it's not although the whole thing was a mistake you'll hear from the said two or three weeks later said >> he's saying Melik >> doesn't is not following uh >> he doesn't you don't mel you don't break the rules whether you're at fault or not irrelevant >> and um >> you saw this >> and what >> you saw this in other areas >> the yeah diamond stories >> like what >> you tell me a story and if it's not Well, frag it up. I'm not the table for when the deb jumped over the table because he walked into the after you had to search for me 100 times. Walked into the he didn't want to go back and waste time. >> Never jumped over the table. >> Why was he doing like this? He put his hand on the table and he over before he didn't if he looked away for two seconds you didn't see it. No table in front of the end put his hand on it and it was over the table. over the table. >> But that's the word doesn't fit here, you know, kingly. This is more like going over the gate on that. >> So look at him. He was upset. He he he told the other didn't that not only ever say don't worry he didn't answer him call it that wasn't it he went by his place he waited and then uh he turned to >> there was one time that uh >> it was 20 he turned to the boat he went like this because somebody showed up he was waiting for that guy to come >> there's another thing >> that guy oh I forgot to tell you that guy ran to his room when he heard that guy is not stupid ran his hid under his bed and he pissed in his pants. He was trembling, >> right? >> He sat down with his shabish went to the mikra. He sat he wrote to them a fourpage letter how the whole thing transpired and answering back that based on what he told me. Whatever babe took him off the hook like would you you didn't know he's going to go to he should know >> right >> that was mambbo this >> he would accept his um explanation to pull he hid he was trying why did he hide why didn't why didn't he come he didn't want to explain to the whole thing in public and maybe he does the wrong thing But lindsight is 2020. When he heard the tum and he was there, he ran away. That was his came back. >> You were married already. >> What? >> You were married. You were >> I got married. I was a kid. I wasn't even kids. >> He was he got married in to next to the youngest daughter. S the youngest daughter. Next one is Laza. Next one. >> When did you when did you get married? >> Amade. So you were in 770 >> by my the whole world didn't say for seven days. >> The what? >> The whole world didn't say for seven days. Even if I wasn't there, I got married. >> They continued the afterwards the whole month. >> Whole month. Yeah. I mean it wasn't just honestly explained to accepted it may all devolve whatever you want to call them beloved they all >> yeah yeah the mother was I knew her I went to and the had an apartment one floor below him and she couldn't even lose He gave me key to his um they actually don't want to get the key by her and my wife is very pregnant. She was visibly pregnant. She was out only in the seventh month. She came down every day to anything you need. You can see she was so motherly. She doesn't know my wife. She knows the name's daughter but that's it. Me >> she knew the name ever knew the name. She maybe met him but they're not from the same same place. >> My from was from the city then wasn't >> what >> he was in Perez. No. >> Yeah. Yeah. But he came to America told them back >> but I don't think Perez wasn't here with his children. >> No. >> Yeah. >> I heard actually came he was a >> Yeah. I heard actually a vart that um forgot who I heard it from but his wife forget who his wife was. not but I heard that um I can't remember where I heard this from that was in New York this is before this is in times of and um basically apparently the with his daughter came up at one point and then it didn't happen and then it happened >> after he came to New York >> while He was in New York. It happened. >> So, so Pis came down from the said why he went wait because he went to the and he said he because he was a while ago and it didn't happen and now it happened that you didn't say before. >> Yeah. Sorry. I saw him talking it didn't happen and then >> and then he asked him again. He said he said answered him say he heard that from things like that you know the whole you know we say we say right today we don't say So it's printed in the you know it says no in the is a different whatever in our it's printed that you say it as a fact you say it >> oh you mean the word I don't know if you know we didn't do the um the type >> yeah Right. So, but how did it start? >> That company that did the tell that they bought it from >> original. >> Yeah. So, how did it start? Said this is comes from Yasi, uncle Yasi from Yasi Goldstein. Um it was actually pretty sure it was printed in the article that we did in from him that was in his room upstairs and he said in America that in a day that they don't say you should say >> that's how that's how it became line. >> Yeah. So in other words, he never wrote this in structure with a verbal instruction. >> But media given was a verbal instruction, not a written instruction. >> Yeah. >> But but those language that used I got they told me the didn't use such terms. Usually >> he spoke when he spoke about his father. Even the copied out later said that twice told >> twice that we know about. >> Yeah. Once >> the story would be she said one story he that he that I remember him telling me. She he asked to conjun she said one shabish went away was big and magnets they only they only had um house coats the whole week didn't go out girls didn't hang out in the streets they stay in the house all day sewing and cooking whatever but they had dresses oh shabas they go out with those they put on their wedding dresses they all had wedding dresses a lot of weddings understand they went to every wedding. No, everyone went to a lot of so parents were gone for chabas and they were told not to leave the house. So one of the sisters you can imagine which one it was said come on it's a hot day it's it's a long shop whatever the word she used and they went out. >> Yeah. And they in the barish was a lot of um boots boots bl >> because it was these um these boards all over town there was boards and they had to get from one side to another it wasn't narrow but had to bounce was rickety and met them all a goat was coming from the other side towards them. The panic girls are goat you know goats are violent but it's not exactly um >> loose goat >> a loose goat. So they all they they lost their bearings and they and the um they fell into the to the puddle and the dresses they can't cover up now and when the parents come home Sunday morning they can see they were outside this is what happens they forgot the words but in English I can say whichever way I want because just the gist of the message this is what happens when you don't listen parents >> so The >> she told him this story. Yeah. >> Parents. >> Yeah. She the story. She told him this. She said she told her sisters told her sisters this sisters at the time. This is what happened. I'm poking whatever. But the also I mean the when the [Music] the way the be [Music] saying like the and the were doing this as a as a unit that uh the way the way the attitude towards they were one. >> Yeah. That's like you know I'm I'm sure you know this princess says yeah >> he specified which daughter but he didn't specify >> which son you'll figure it out >> you'll know >> you you only know she's older than that a year and two months a year and a month a year you uh you spoke to the habits in a month now months The longest conversation was that time with n name chapen if you call that conversation the whole thing was >> you want to say a story >> you heard it for me but I'll say it again um you heard the little cross street in other words you got married in you had a house across the street and house across the street I'm president right 1307 Seven he was 1307 was directly close to matter of factson once wasn't going to be comments somebody said you know you had coming and going so they made like you know didn't say that you know by she privacy she said that's what she told you >> no not me I didn't say anything Who did the rabbit say this to? >> Whoever was from >> Oh, she said the bas means pleasant >> pleasant because when the so the windows are open the air condition are off but you need some fresh air. windows were open at 10 12 Friday. >> That's what she said about your brother at the house. >> At the house. >> Wow. sitting >> and hearing the the >> it was you know a bunch of B singing in unison >> right >> and something quite well my brother had a voice so he doesn't know him like me but um he knows more than the average guy so he led the choir and he he's not quiet so between 10 12 guys sing with the window wide open she heard it she was sitting on the porch when This conversation transpired. I don't know if you know there was a bench there. The bench was with the back of the bench to ped street against the back wall. >> And when she's there, right, street when she's sitting there, she goes short. When she sat down, forget about it. They say when you when she drove the car, you had no idea who's driving that car cuz when you start putting on the headrest, you couldn't see your head, >> right? Who's driving? There's a joke. You know they had you say an old man's car. You see a car with a seat and a headrest and a and a shiny ball bald head. Uh >> so you went into their house? >> I was I I started being like them. So I didn't go in. I'm coming out of the mik. I didn't >> Your brother had your brother had a mikvah in his house. >> Yeah. Pashan built and I told him if you're building you're wasting your money. >> You told him that. Pashan is your >> hein-law. >> Z-law. Okay. >> Even now he's being married is also an >> another. Okay. >> From a different wife. >> Okay. >> That was the first one was whoever. Second one name was >> okay. >> So Abraham Paran built a mikvah in the house. >> He told me wasting money. He said he want >> because he thought the Reb was going to use it. He told him it's wasting money. came out to the about he gave he had a he was a he was a to I'm building his co I'll make sure somebody else used it also never to >> never even walked in there had avitz and everything once did have avitz you think can you see that I've been going to az for a it again. All of them went to a so many my written in these places. >> It's in Basilani. >> Yeah. >> Aurorat healing whatever. Yeah. >> Yeah. D is vacation means like healing sanator sanatorium. >> Yeah. >> There's a story that the rabbi You know Morristown is one of the stops here in America. >> Yeah. >> He went there four times I think. >> Yeah. He was there uh >> not being Shiva building >> in the city. Yeah. >> That city. >> But there's a story that the rabbi was talking to the rabbit in the back porch of the house. >> Tiny porch. But okay. >> She was there's a bench there also. Right. Yes. >> And she say >> and two chairs. >> The Reba was talking to her. But it was like for a few minutes like a for a few few minutes was a conversation and they're they're sitting on the porch and when the finished conversation the like looked up and said you know in the backyard in Brooklyn talking I never heard the story. Okay. >> Yeah. So that was that's the extent of the dacha talking to on the porch. >> Very sharp about dash >> the country. Yeah. >> He makes fun of it with the flies. We have to open the windows and letting the flies and >> Yeah. Especially uh not like today lip >> skirt. Not like today we have mansions in mech schools. >> Yeah. But you went from a normal apartment to a two room apartment. We had six kids and parents basically in the same room. I mean was like back in Russia like you're going back in time. >> That's what the de says. What are you going to the country? You have you have what what are you trying to accomplish by by >> So there's two two things. First of all with certain things so he stopped and second thing is the crime started going up and being in the city with a bad influence on the kids you just catch >> so to be in the country was at least it'll be >> in a protected atmosphere so I don't know which one I was what but I mean it came out cheaper too he never went he >> never went to the country >> never went to the Even Masceras would go to the country. >> Labels went every year. >> Yeah. >> Pyama went every year. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if I think his wife American didn't. >> I think By did go to the country. Yeah. >> By did. Yeah. She did. >> Whatever. >> He stayed. He stayed. >> And if Shambas >> No, he stayed. >> He stayed. >> Yeah. One second. So, so um you're talking about the he saying a story that you went to the rabbiton to the house we just so I said yeah help the damn going in >> the rabbis sitting there >> no she wouldn't okay yeah >> standing on the sidewalk by himself >> spikers on the porch you know spikers the the electric guy, the wire guy, >> the wire guy. >> He was an electrician by trade electrician and he did the mic. What is it what is the microphone system to an electrician? Nothing. Okay, that was the closest thing that he he plugged in. I can also plug it in. You buy a box in metal. Don't ask. It took me two years and he finally got, you know, >> by the way, he was he he was part of the >> 100%. >> No, no. I'm saying like I see in videos he he's running the mic system, right? So he has a position he could stand there and he is afterwards like like first >> he's stupid. >> Yeah. Yeah. He he he knew that it's going to come with benefits. That's what I'm saying. He did the mic. >> That's why I say he's not stupid. >> Yeah. >> He um >> does he have kids? >> Yeah. Well, he's too old. His son 22 whatever. He was survived. He had a number. He was he was a numbered Jew. >> So sitting on the top now he's standing there. She say mother scream in the front room 15 minutes. Okay. So I went in Spike says I need help after the the air conditioner is working good but the wiring is put some he installed it he wasn't whatever he he installed an air conditioner two years before that and it burnt out the plug you had to put a new box apparently that box wasn't built for such high I won't go into the technical reasons apparently had to change the box so you needed somebody to help him but that was a heavy that was the air conditioner to cool off the dining room, living room, and the salon. The kitchen doors were closed, so it cool off three rooms. It was a massive unit. Okay, I'm a young buck. I have cash. I'll help. I went in, took it out, and it took him at least 15, 20 minutes to to to change the box. 12 minutes, whatever. He didn't do it in two seconds. Take out the old one, the new one. Put tape around and close the wires. And I've stayed not far from the air condition. Also, not far. You ever heard the word telephone table? You have no idea what I'm talking about. >> A table with a telephone >> table. It was a small table. >> Small table with a tiny little table. And the phone was beyond us. But on that thing where the phone was was also the Tanya from Toshin, fat covers. >> Mhm. >> It had a napkin stuck in it. And to me it looked like it was the day. I had a curiosity of any typical baka. I don't know if was it curiosity first of all I was doing nothing standing like a like a no pun intended house not comfortable so I start inching my way closer and closer to the um >> why what do you want to flip up and we see where it's what pedic on that's all >> why do you want to see what pedic looks like You wanted to know if the >> if it's puck in there in a certain page >> and you wanted to know what >> I wanted to know and if not which whatever I have no explanation for it and she's sitting talking sh with her back to me a little bit peripheral vision I was sure she was engaged in her conversation but she wasn't paying attention to me as soon as I stretched out my hands name. I hear her voice name. She realized my color change. I don't know if it turned white or if I turned red. I was devastated. I if the floor can open up under me, I would like I didn't say anything like I didn't meet you there. The more you talk to worship make it, you know, just shut up. 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So, there's another time you saw the rabbit, you spoke to the rabbiton also. >> Yeah, when I brought us a hat. >> What hat? Goldstein told me once I have a hat >> Goldstein from bank >> the old man not Stanley his father >> from bankrupt Hatters >> the founder of the company Mr. Goston, he told me a story before you went into the hat saying he told me a story. I knew you when you were weren't even born yet. >> Told me said that I worked in the Brooklyn Navyyard and he came quite often to D in the um he was he was a guy in one of there was a big sh in the back two small sh >> inas >> in Williamsburg. >> The school was upstairs >> in Williamsburg. only on Wilson Street. >> Yeah. >> Wilson between um division and Lee. >> So the when he worked in the Brooklyn area would come down in there was he took a bus but he got off and they walk with the way that walked him took me seven minutes. They walked very fast. So you see she told me the was said a short one. You know which one I'm talking about. It doesn't have all this fuel. So we told you go there, go there. >> Really print like that. Yeah. >> Right. >> I mean I have one with the hard cover which already defeats the oper. The whole reason that's the world will you should be able to travel with it. >> Yeah. >> And that one you can't do that. So that I was using scissor but had it open like oh you looking for a scissor. I have a scissor like that here. I opened the opened it up like a German like a comic book after he gonna make the and uh she he told she a comic book >> he oh that's that's where it comes from the story it's from Goldston >> yes >> he told the he told me the story >> he told that >> he says I was buddy American pa guy so honest I told you you don't this a city was not comic book. You ever read a comic book in your life with the keys? >> Did I didn't respond to him? >> I heard the story. I heard the story. >> I want to tell you a story. The hat. >> Yeah. >> She said he wants to send that have a hat. He knows they have a side because pretty they got a few hats too. And he says he came out now with a hat. I know that like slight weight wise wide brim. He knows that size was seven seven and 68. Seven and 78. It's like almost an eight. >> Deb's hat size is seven seven. >> Seven and 78. In European numbers is something else. I know American numbers. Seven and 78. Do you want to take it? I says okay. >> What do you mean? You wouldn't take it. >> He wanted you to take it. >> He wanted me to bring it to the >> You were punk there? >> I was to the store. >> You went to the store? Yeah. Okay. >> It was a few blocks. I knew I was a little I knew the neighbor. He knew me. I bought my first hat to my sister I bought by him and I've been buying by him till my wedding even later he knew with five brothers so we got to know him you know we all bought hats my father would have had my fel didn't have my father's kind of hat up even my father not really remember my father >> I see the zerans hats I know >> okay he had them but he didn't have a selection had mostly that he also had our wor hats. Bankrupt hat. It was like, "Are you a buck?" Banks. It was modern to have a bankrupt hat. >> Yeah. >> It was like a cool thing to have >> cuz the sha hat was a hat you can use for a backdrop for a basketball game. And the other one he threw a ball on. >> So if you're into if you're into your your looks, you got a bank hat. Okay. I think it's still like that by the way. It still has a name. >> Not bankrupt. Barcelino, whatever. >> Yeah. Whatever. You get the idea. So I said, you know, put him in a few weeks. I can't really have a hat. What am I? I come to have a hat. So come on. >> Why don't you give it to Masquer's house >> personally? Okay. >> Make it a personal thing. I told him why just send to the area or he always had like Stanley always had a does he always had a cigar it was a family trait except his son didn't continue it remember the son >> I used to go to bankrupt >> you know who he is >> I mean bankrupt's a little bit when I was getting hand secret I go here in Kites but I I I did go to to >> to 30th Avenue 44 >> burnt down very convenient thing I mean the building burned down to it was the crisp. It wasn't a fire. >> It was a fire. >> Okay. >> I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying when I saw the devastation like what identified the fire department show up like in time to save the top floor of a fourth story building like hello. I'll call upon him. I say put him around. Let's make out of this. So how [Music] I said I can buy bottle of mash which is about 12 bucks before I bought it for fifth and I knew that buy knew it >> what >> by loans low on Rogers >> that's where she would buy >> that's where she would stand in line till when they found out who she is >> buying stuff in Loans right she would go herself she wouldn't send somebody >> where was it on Rogers between Crown and Montgomery >> where is it >> by a bus stop there in Crown Heights Rogers. >> Oh, Loan. Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They lose the name. Somebody bought the name and moved it here. That's >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That Loans wasn't here. Loans and Rogers died. They sold the name and it died with the owner. The owner died and kids sold the name. They were already doctors, lawyers, weren't interested. So I said, "Okay." So I says, "For 20 bucks, $12, 15 cost 12 or eight, whatever." She gave me 20. I think it was less. He said, "Take it and keep your sh." Okay, fine. And I went and I bought the um mash and the um cake. I didn't wait for pudding. I went to either the tiny or the day before to bring I came to the door and I saw the um I thought Mush is going to answer. I think her name was Mushia too or Ana. I'm not sure. Ana Mush. What was the name? >> I don't know. She she >> the housekeeper >> in the house. Yeah. >> A Russian housekeeper. She the rabbit man. I was like, "Oh boy." I wasn't comfortable talking to her. Yes. Became that me with this box and on top of the box. This is big a half decent looking bag. And inside that bag was the cake and the mo does. I said Mr. Goldstein. I think I said his first name from bank prepped headers. She didn't say anything. She looked so like I think what bothered also was that a bach is bringing the personal hat like >> she didn't like it. >> She I can't be mine. >> That was the >> That was impressing. >> But you were at Baka then. >> The bak. >> Oh okay. It was very uncomfortable. I I didn't want Sounds like he said who? When he asked me to do it, my reaction was find somebody else. No, I know you. I know you from when you were pissing your pants. I know you dear Kik. Who am I going to send some guy? >> You didn't feel that there was a you fell for you picked up from the it wasn't like wasn't your place. She didn't like to do either and it was in reality it wasn't that I was bring I was doing Mr. Goldstein's bidding. I wasn't I was looking at to the contrary I was hoping she's not going to open the door. >> Yeah. >> I was hoping >> but you later on you did do some stuff that were likeing a little bit. You built the bench. No, >> that's in I built yeshiva's bench. Come on. You can compare the two. I built a bench for the yeshiva. I never sat on a bench. I go to the brim and I knew it's not comfortable. It's wood. And now that I'm older, I can appreciate what I did. And when I sit on a on a stone or a piece of wood, pardon my expression, but you lose your meat on your backside and your bone is mish touching hard surface. It's painful. So you decided to make a bench for me. I told him to do it. We can get you married already. Okay. So I built a bench and I asked um you said you told the he knew the score do it. I said, "But I know the Reb doesn't like when I told him the story. The Reb doesn't want they should put the be because Reb doesn't want they should waste time between when they leave and set up and you know he wants but every day they should put a B, >> right? Not because him he didn't want the comfort. He didn't want to be a he later they did. >> Yeah. But later talking about then talking about the early llamas. So he said don't ask. even say sh today reading the expression says do it says just do it put it down and okay I listen to him took me about a week or two to build it I I first of all I made the bench look like all the other benches but I didn't paint it with wood or not painted like most both most benches in the semi were not painted like today raw wood I didn't use nails I use screws I polished down the wood and I and I varnished it. I polished down the varnish and I scraped it again. Varnished it three times. It had a hard gloss to it that lasted till the end. I haven't seen it. Somebody stole it. It was split up by two good two bandits. One is Shawn Shawn Harik. He took it uh when in the room if you >> but it was a it was like a cushion >> was um the whole bench was a regular bench but I made it lower to capacitate this extra 30 in the bench is 18 I made this 15 then I bought this board I gave to a upholsterer he made me a cushion for the whole thing not just spot be spot only he wouldn't use it the whole bench bench had a cushion whole bench had a cushion yeah Bakam sat there during say yeah but he didn't know sometimes depends with there's no way of knowing >> there's an answer from the about that there's an answer from the because there's like a I think maybe at some >> I never heard of it >> no no there's a I might be saying it wrong but there was a there was a >> I never knew this started becoming a thing not at your bench it started becoming a thing like oh don't sit in the de's place >> and then I forgot Hussein you Now the Reb said basically there's an answer that wrote that that's not the of the is in the other corner because would sit in that corner. >> Yeah, right. >> No, that's that's the other side, right? Whatever. forgot which I I know my direction which is problematic because there's two corners here. >> Yeah. Yeah. So their place is that the fact that sits there is not the place that's not place not the place to make the previous my opinion >> but I heard I heard that the I heard from that said And it's interesting because after start doing it every single day he finish but >> what >> he didn't say why no started first of all the year mean the first year. Yeah. Appear was in the house was he did wasn't in the house. There would be a a fight every day >> even fights. >> But then later on every three times a day. >> Yeah. >> It's also sometimes later later. those years was more with >> much more. >> I'm saying like all the time people know did not sleep on a bed for years on the bed always >> and the lab was cleaning up by the time he got back again. >> TB never slept on a bed. If he slept, he slept on the table like this. I don't know how he slept, but cameras in the keyholes he took, by the way, he took those pictures, those four pictures. >> It's a keyhole. It's from the window. >> I mean, keyhole is a figure of speech. A peeking spot >> in the door. >> See the one of the tearing? >> Yeah. The rabbit's on and sitting there. She's very very um queen-like. You saw she sits. >> She's standing. I think >> sitting. >> She's sitting. >> The other is sitting. >> It looks like they're working on something together like a letter or something >> apparently. But she was sitting on It's a set of four pictures. >> Mhm. >> This the other one that request like this. Those four pictures are taken within two or three minutes. And that's the same set of pictures that I was learning also standing by by on a chair. >> But that's from a different time. Maybe I can't say for sure, but >> but you you um once looked into the Reb's room. No, >> I till I realized what I'm doing. >> Where did you look from? From the from where the kadesh is now. >> Was a window >> in the rabb's room. Is there anes? >> No, the other window >> there was So those two were windows. two in the one cages locking cages. >> How do you access it? How do you access it from the step to gather? >> No, but no, it was before the shalash. >> I I cannot my way into it. I told my father go need an office which they needed like they never sat down together. So I built out of the back room there that had that thing. There was windows there to the eastern parkway. So I put a wall on the over the steps. It was a parapit. You know what a parapit is? Yeah. A wall. >> I built it till the top be built it myself. Had to wait till that I went home. I couldn't bang it, you know. And I made a wall with a door with a key. I gave my father a key. I don't think he ever stepped into the office. >> You made a office for the Gabian. >> I I got a phone. I called up AT&T to put in the phone. There was NY's in New York. NYT New York telephone NYT >> this is where label's office was later >> higher even that's where all the dollars were stolen from that's where all the pond open went in the bags were building up over the years I think with the fireworks no >> the base there was a fire right there yeah >> I think it was label's office but yeah >> no it was was that room was that room >> there's a room on top okay >> it's a few it's not a room on top it's label's office only goes still almost the front >> right >> 15 minutes 15 ft away from the front there's four steps you go cuz it can't be low would block your steps going down so when you you have steps and you go down so under the down this is above this is on the top landing of those steps between the two ramps today you can say two ramps used to be only one ramp not to have the ramp that the government made us put up the metal ramp has to be um handicap accessible. >> So you so but you kept a place that you could look in the neighbor's window. >> No, but I had a key to the room and I knew I knew the building before the uh with the panels went up. So I knew where the window was exactly. I opened it up at night after the left. I opened it up, kept it loose, took all the nails. When the deb was was in his office, I was pulling away. I had a spot where I was able to see into the room because of the shade being enjoyed from the wall. I didn't see that the whole time. I saw the de passing by. The speed that he walked by was unbelievable. I watched him about four nights in a row. What are you doing pushing that night to an invasion of privacy again? Nothing's going to happen. But when you get the to look in the I thought that's like I once watched the talking to you for half hour and a lot of back I said join me you'll enjoy it I had about four or five guys join me it was beautiful hand like this guy had a good on his the guy was here >> talking learning about it >> the guy was here the was like were you sitting He goes here had a on the on the on the no nothing he saw whoever counted the how many people counted he didn't come learning but he had enough in him to be able to count the I'm sure won the argument that's not that's not the issue he Nice. I couldn't hear a voice. The window was slightly open. Shade was up 2/3. I saw everything. Nice. Come back. >> And the B and who the Bakam didn't tell you off for doing this. >> I just told you. I said I said don't be idiot. Just join me. They joined me and they enjoyed it too. >> Which Baham told you they're not coming? >> Who told you? Who said they not they're not joining? Who was screaming a >> I didn't pay attention. I I wasn't getting anything wrong with going to the Wasn't a lady. It was going to do >> and then it's not the right thing. >> Four times. Stop doing it. So I didn't put the nail back in and just >> But it was always open all the years. >> What? >> In all the years there's >> open. >> Oh, you left the nails. >> I left them and put the nails back in in case one day made to get the better of me. >> So what? But they built a shelf there eventually. So >> yeah, >> I was my father was Gab. I gave all the keys back. >> I out the key. But how did your father become the gabe? >> He was he was handpicked by a by a handpicked crowd. >> He was handpicked by a handpicked crowd. >> Yes. >> What does that mean? >> They had elections before Ben came with a hose and >> they had the lamage. They had elections. >> No. Um >> cuffs. >> No, even before was gone. They had elections. Maybe that's the reason he did it. >> And Ben came with a hose. >> He was about the whole meeting though. >> Why? So the community wanted to make an election. >> So bench >> he hooked up a hose from somewhere and it came al for him. He had a 50ft hose from the vicial from the from the where was it sink there? That was before the second shoes. Where did he get a seat? The lady did not have a bathroom. Where did he get? >> There was a sink downstairs like a >> Yeah, but I'm thinking the lady didn't have a bathroom. Can you imagine a lady coming to school without a bathroom second >> once there's a >> he said worse than that. And he was involved with the meeting. >> Okay. So, so that election didn't happen. Okay. So, then what happened >> after passed away? He passed away and every week he was like was >> they did this whole thing because the garden passed away. >> Yeah. So then he was he was you don't touch him. >> Now what do we do? Shim asked Shim and take over. He's not interested. He was ready. He already took over the Shabas >> from Yeah. Sorry. >> So he didn't want this extra thing. It is a respectable position. Maybe he didn't feel enough to stand up. >> So they took a select group. Who took them? I don't know if it's like >> it was it came from I'm not going to say it came from the group of 30 40 guys who selected to to get for four they chose two Russians a and an American I don't think that was part of the either my father was the one that speaks English well he can read the bills he can he was the one that brought home the electric bills And of course it's a genius. Of course he spoke he's an American boy. She pins was the finance minister titles was the um the handman. >> Yeah. He never went up to the beam, by the way. He knew the station. >> He never he never >> ever never went up to the be. See, he saw okay guy looks Jewish. He's the one that told me not to go to the because it's what >> he told me to stop going to the >> whok because he was able to hear Gordon was 60% deaf. >> Mhm. >> He heard every word. [Music] >> So told him stopped daming because the >> factic he would tell him his face the other guy said it to him too but drills him every week he went to the story I never told you either went to Gordon >> and the new the other guy's not happy this is before >> yeah before the beginning it's like so what should I answer that question who he should listen to. >> No, but told him saying he said he didn't ask question. He says he heard that. Oh, coming from He never even thought about it. David had you did he was >> you ever told it to your grandfather or about him >> he said >> to him to him >> he put it on paper this question >> I mean if you wouldn't ask this question but singing is is the first then you have singing is you know that right >> no >> I don't know that >> they don't sit t >> they They sing beautiful. I mean if you do something years you you perfect your act and um he came out and all smiles. I mean young beard I still bat but I know my days going in and the old let in the old people first and also the guy can take less than a minute took a minute and a half. Wasn't it uh said he wasn't a businessman? He wasn't because of his email address. He went in and he came out and he's all spiled. He was out of breath. Couldn't talk. So by Kingston Carol I didn't even know he wrote the sin he didn't tell before we called him because he didn't know his last name could just title he gave me the gank when he said his name he didn't say with the same love and he said Gordon most of So I know what to do already. And so the next time walked over to him, he said, "Maybe you're right. Maybe you're not right." But I know that said that he appears never never he not a liar. Right. >> You ever asked about anything? Um and is never >> you had after your marriage also? >> No stopped one day. >> Before your marriage you had >> I did a big mistake. I stopped going into >> You stopped going into when you're about >> I still went No, I stopped. >> Why' you stop going to a fancy way of getting out of it? I went in. I went in >> my parents. What happened? My father mixed in with my father mixed in with over. [Music] What about a pimple? smiles and say I called you give a big smile. So I told him I learned which union he asked me a question I answered it right away. Second question answered right away. The first question I knew the answer I had to form my father being a father you know else not being the typical of he answered for me was it and I wasn't talking to you I was talking to him so when again some exceptions 14 okay why did I stop 14 I wrote to the if it was before my minist that I would tell me what to do and if it was after my after my birthday something that worked out that way because I I wasn't ready because so that was said I wrote I did this and this and this was no child I don't want to ask did you give you this one year I forgot to >> I don't understand what you're saying I understand what you're saying you're saying that what >> it was before the legis I was right. learning whatever read it like this he on his fingers he read it in two seconds exaggerating but then he was picked up his head that was the most frightening moment that ever looked you straight in the eyes and you're alone in the room that ever and then shooting me on his should whatever. And um if I remember correctly said had argument with 10 people about it. That's what Reb told you. >> That's what I remember. >> So why so why you stopped going to >> Okay. I didn't get to that. I I sidetracked. >> Sid track was good because you just over. >> So I the next year. Hi. Remember this guy from last year? I didn't change key. Who's there? 15. Hi. me last year. I came by s pra my day was not anymore. I said, "Well, Anything else from >> three three things? >> So >> I was a little more technic than that. >> Was there anyone else that did such a thing like you? >> Yeah, >> it was a style. >> We had we had we all had >> You spoke to Mashim about this? Spoke to Yale about this? No, >> I would tell me. >> What would Yale tell you? Yeah, I should go. >> So you didn't go most of your >> No, most I was the baka since I'm 13 >> and I went till I was 18. >> 19 to you didn't go >> 19 six years. You're very smart. >> 30 14 you're very smart. So you can come up with this what are you doing? >> By the way, you know, you know what? You know what the said when he stopped said so >> so I have to pick up but that's >> it's >> I'm being I'm being very cynical. >> Yeah. So but so so after you got married you still had the same like >> Yeah. >> But you were you were a working man right? They had a family >> at night. >> So how'd that work? >> I was a good father. No, I was I used to slept my kids with me. My kids, do you remember this night? Said, "No, you can't remember. You only six time when I was six, you were sleeping sometime already. Not 10:00 at night. He was in bed." But any other time I slept him just like I did it. I wanted them to experience me. It was a normal thing to do. Where do you grow up? You grow up in 473 crown. grew up in 77 Eastern Parkway. >> So that's how you wanted to raise your kids. >> I there was no thought to it. There was no thought process. I wasn't such a pini. It was just the way it works. I wasn't the only father like that. feel like that. Um it was I wasn't aiming but there wasn't like a 100 Catholic meth because we stood out but mostly you see mic with kids around them during the week. It was not usual. >> Your kids did it on their own when they were a little older. when they get older. Yeah. >> It's part of their >> it became part of their routine. >> So then and especially after so then it's uh then then already after everyone's running to 770 whenever comes out. The whole world caved in. I know my world caved in. Interesting. Well, then you know I meant I saw the coming up the steps was white like that napkin. It was so coming up the stepsister came into the hall with only two people there me and label I was looking for a cup which kept they brought to that book to drink. forget about bring to wash like are you nuts >> drink >> so I went upstairs to look for clean plastic I mean I couldn't find one by the time they was coming upstairs I was near when they broke all the windows I heard about it later soon started gross I saw I ran upstairs I figured I'll find something there so I don't know you mind clearly under panic And um stood by a door and I saw through the glass with a much smaller glass in it with a diamond shaped site label label mean labels just coming up. He was there hopping popping really hot, you know. So I was there and came through. He said he jumped both of us. When he walked he he walked the whole way leaning on the wall. So hard for him to stand. >> So you're saying that was >> And I followed him to the door. He door closed. had no lock on it. So if I wanted I could have opened I didn't open it. I heard knocking the label knock on the door. Didn't open it. Somebody I think labelled. She ran up to Hana. >> Yeah. And she came down. Yeah. >> She came down. She called it her very first name. >> Never opened. >> Ended up open. >> Yeah. >> Sure was open. >> Not mistake. Oh yeah, >> he didn't see him doing it. But there was massaging his heart and um I heard her voice. She had a loud, you know, strong voice. She called me name was supposed to handle it. Says that's I knew the shirt is open. She didn't say I supposed to be the handle of she was whatever she was, she wasn't stupid. Yeah. >> And uh I couldn't hear her voice was very weak. Then about a minute or two later arrived with somebody. He was one of the unics. I remember who and she came in. And once she came in, I I >> left. >> I left. >> She's saying that um saying there was a different story. >> When I heard the I was in B park when that happened. You got a call. We had cell phones. Really? You had a flip phone. So on the way back. >> Maybe you had a beeper. >> No. >> You had a cell phone. >> Flip phone. >> Tough bay. You had a see a cell phone. >> The flip phone was very primitive. >> Okay. >> Oh, that of course I I didn't hear about it in my office. I heard about it on my way home. So I asked the guy, she said that it fell. She said before, but you know, I saw the rebel like he's walking some tripped on something. So I spoke to him. What's his name? Castleman. Your cousin, your uncle. What's the other guy? >> Yeah. Yeah. Castleman says, "Talk talk to me." 11. So I I went home first to tell my wife I'm going 70. I parked the car and I was just like I want to go when I came to was double park all over went in I went I went outside the other car wasn't back yet. Yeah. I was devastated. Yeah. I heard that stood up came down. He said his name was stood up today for the first time he stood on his own about two minutes. That was Thursday. >> So what were you thinking then? I was it was but I knew of in the room then and they had the radio on or television on the room not for the but for the for the attendant and that's when the the report came through they passed away >> that what >> oh I hover the first he pass I think is I don't know >> I mean right >> yeah no the the second the second stroke was I think was only one that year >> talking about that first time happened two years later but the second stroke right before the second stroke >> because they came back from a visit >> hospital yeah right Um, >> so I'm mixing up two stories. I forget it. >> So after, so then after the mult, you're you're living a different uh your life is a different life. It's it's life number two life whatever. But >> it was going to take a th to to build us. It didn't make sense to being bedbound. There was a king. What? What happened? It was a mus. Yeah. That was >> I mean second time doing it was in full control of his of of his faculties. He said what he wanted, what to do, what not to do. That night she saved the night. She saved the day. So, how do you uh how do you how do you look at it now >> on hindsight? >> No, no, no. Now, no. Now, now I'm saying we're all we're all here. >> The only explanation I have for that is the So, hang around a lot. That's that's how I know you because in your so you have to do it you talk to the youth. So you see you see in the back I feed not by I seem why should a guy the guy was born 10 years after he has such a in my days he had to not wanted to go but the was born to be for the or for his friends later became part of the routine culture beginning who wants to Ashkash with food. Not that they didn't care about but the idea was so far-fetched. I wanted to go >> say you see really significant not only because the Jewish nation grew. I mean it was like a what is the word pilgrimage? >> I was there I was by yesterday when you were there there was famous people showed up yesterday. >> She she came the survivors >> hostage and then the >> what's her name again? She >> got her name and also >> she one of the famous ones. Yeah. And the other people, David Freeman, the former ambassador, I saw him yesterday saying that >> that's from the small people that come to that. >> Yeah. Yeah. You have he was coming there. He came every week. Just passed away less than two years ago. He was he was a house. >> Come on. >> Vson. Yeah. >> Tight. He was a guy. I heard a rumor about him. I said, "Nah, he's a lucky can't be." Came out of the oil and went straight to his car. >> That washing hands maybe wash his hand. I said, "First of all, you don't do that. You want to learn on the way? You can't learn." Well, if you forget he didn't wash his hand was of course I didn't I didn't go to a cave. I went to a broken kesh. >> I guess I love it. >> To me that when I when I saw that I heard about it and I didn't buy it. I figured you saw him you saw him not wash >> I saw him not wash I waited. I knew his hair that day. So you said you waited. He came out of the oil walked up the ramp went straight to his car. So you're saying that the is not >> it's not it's not just a writing it's >> it somehow apparently like we have it much less than the nonablish much less what >> the saying more you are the less you the less you have So you're saying the only people that don't realize is >> that we don't have a >> words we >> ah but that was always like that before >> he says it's also it's also >> say that's even more >> so what's the husb that the mice with >> you would I have an I don't want to give the nice story. Let me I don't want to give any any excuses. I don't like it >> saying it doesn't you want the >> It doesn't It doesn't work for me. >> You want the wife? I wish I got it. I tried to do this once or twice and it looked wonderful, but the pearl I had had really about before she even passed away. She went by she was holding and they took me a hund times. He had a tape. So Tavis B sometimes I should remember Tavis B not in an easy way. So like definitely better. >> Wait a second. She had you in a m before gumas. >> He had you ma after >> after. Okay. So I took that block I transf my son's body but he wasn't one years old yet. [Music] said, "Yeah, he's been asking." She got all emotional. He's I watched the video 100 times. And um when I came home, I called my on the phone. said, "What can you have to do with a Sunday?" Tell me said that a lap of a Okay, makes sense. I knew that I knew that, but it didn't. I don't think along those lines. So you're so you're saying that today it's in a different form. It's not saying we're not we're not like you did. >> It's also you can have the in secret home street in the basement is alive over here's >> presence is all overb you warn him that's who he is. extra like it all goes in the same the same brain wave. >> So that means the only difference is that you can walk in and you have it. Now you have to you have to right? We have efforts. >> Effort to get there. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Why not? Somebody said to me the other day, I said, "What are you going to do?" You think I'm lis? What do you What are you going to say to me when I actually do have when I what what title do you give me then your highness highness? >> Yeah, >> I'm Yes, I know. >> The main thing is [Music] that's it, you know. Amen. Okay. [Music]