Ep. 31: The Rebbe Means What He Says with Rabbi Shlomo Cunin

Because the says what he means. The means what he says. Says, "Do what you could do. Don't sit and cry. Another year with film. I never miss a day putting on film at least one year on the planes that I fly back and forth once a month in the lounges. Not an easy business. Not an easy business, but you do what you got to do." Mashiach. One more woman using a mikvah. One more. One more of the one more t one more muza. That's what it takes. That's a scotch. That is what ties us to our If you've been enjoying this podcast, please like and subscribe so that others can enjoy it as well. In addition, if you've benefited in any way from a monkin podcast and would like to give something back, you can do so today at their.org/donate. I'm Yasi Cayman. Welcome to among an ongoing fabin about life as our vibrant connection with theb and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. How are you? >> I'm fine. >> Okay, for being here I know you're here at Shabasim, but thank you for making the time to talk to me. It's my pleasure because the hair plays a very important part of the Reb's wonderful wonderful continuing leadership because the head helps people to understand that we are never alone because the Reb is the best Tati in the world in all of history. [laughter] No good ti no good father would leave his children alone. So they set it up in a special system how kabad labavich should go forward and that one of the most important things was a good kabad. My grandfather recommend one of the first founders of Kabad in America was part of the first aid kabad and put up a lot of money to buy 770. The kabad has always been [clears throat] from the earliest days of his existence with the understanding that we are servants of ourb and what theba wants from us is what we do. We have no angular and beliefs la we follow the directives of our and when you follow the directives of then you don't go lost that's as simple as that my first situation with kabad in 770 which I come back very often. Now I come every shop many years already was looking for me. I go going to the office. You never know what that means. Yes. is the one who appointed you now to go. I give it over to you in name. >> Do you remember when that was >> many many years ago? [snorts] >> It was after the >> huh? >> It was after this after the story of the >> before. >> Before >> you're talking about that. >> No, not the in Russia. The >> now you mean? >> Yeah. With the with the library here. No, that not. No, no, no. What's after that? >> Was after that. >> Okay. So, let me ask you a few questions. Uh, we'll go back to soon. So, you mentioned that your ZA was part of in America. And I want to know about your um the your early years and your early connection to the Reba, like where where you're from and your first interactions with the Reba. My initial meeting with the was at a calm sukus. I was a young little kid. >> Where where did you where were you living? >> I was living in Bronx, New York. >> Bronx. >> I was born in the Bronx. My father was born in Manhattan. I'm a third generation American. But all my whole family's always been connected to the Reb all the mental because that is the source of stock. It was before the crash in 1929 the stock market crash and Madi made his money from the stock market. He gave away Riziki. He was a labboard. Of course, >> from Russia. >> Yes. >> So [snorts] whatever the case is, he takes me by the hand. We're going to go now to the river someday to that's the first time I was with the then we were going to public school PS14. Why? Because Z de Mandal together with Z de Mort also Philadelphia. They went to see the one school one school and but there was in a Bronx for the Sha Kindela. So they said before we send the children there I was much younger. We're going to go and see ourselves what it looks like. They told the people we're going to be here for a day, then we'll make a decision. They sat there for a few hours. They said, "Bye-bye. Thank you." What did they figure out? that unfortunately these teachers were were the apocenim from Europe originally and not only that they smacked the kids >> get up sit down shut up they said the king was the oceans the children will be here they're going to grow up to be anti-semites so what he did was Sha Mendel Simpson was hired to come to the Bronx, teach me and my brother a few times a week after we finished in public school. Public school we went with big yamakus big yamakus directly across the street from my house. And that's how the first time I met with someone who was really involved on a day-to-day basis, >> Sean Men, >> which was Rabbi Simpson. Then I was 11 years old. My brother was going to be 12 and we go in to see the so looks up at my mommy and my mother which stays her yard very close to the deba treated her as his own daughter. She asked her questions in the letters. Should my children take hay fever shots to stop the allergies? Simple things back and forth. [snorts and clears throat] My mom would sit by the piano and play in the Bronx. Tears would come down on our face. Mama, why are you crying? She wouldn't say anything. Finally, one time as we had grown up said, "Mama, please, you have to share the information with us." She started to cry. So, I never wanted you to know, but all of my family, my brothers and sisters and their children were all killed by the Germans. My father Mortra Wilsker got for them passports, got for them all papers necessary to come to America, citizenship, everything. Let me see the letters. He sent them letters. Come, come, come. I'm going to send you the documents. Zeta, don't worry about nothing's going to happen. We're in Warsaw. It's going to be good. He writes another letter B. come to America. Another letter comes back. We are not coming. He sends another letter. That's the last letter they received before all of them were killed. So this is the background where I come from. >> We met and myself because of the what happened in America. That was a breakdown of yushkite. If you didn't work on shabas, you couldn't make a living. Very, very bad. There were hidden that said, I rather die amisa gashmas in Europe than die amnes in America. That's what America was about. My lady Wilson in Philadelphia told my mommy, I [snorts] already asked from you a few things when you to get married. Number one, he has to put on every day. Number two, he has to keep shabas. He has to keep and you will have to go to the mikvah. And if you they don't keep these four things, don't come crying come of my don't come crying by my funeral and I'm by my c. That's what America looked like. So came to the to the boat to meet the of the >> who >> his name was if I remember correctly. They made me make a mistake. And they met each other. They made met each other at the boat. They looked at their beers. That's how America looked like. That's how I came into the picture. >> That's how our family came. Now we're looks up at my mommy and says now is the time they will have to go to the yeshiva better than the mama says it's very far away says we have a dormatory but we're in the dormatory my mama said but it doesn't matter this is my two eyes I can't how can I be away from them. So the starts that says first and foremost you will go Sunday morning excuse me you will go Monday morning by train to the yeshiva there you'll get a room you'll be Monday actually Sunday you'll go on Sunday on the train you'll be Monday alone Tuesday you will come saying this to bring sandwiches to them and take care of that which we did now. So you you've seen them already Sunday before they left. Now you they saying this now you're seeing them on Tuesday because you're going to them. So you have Wednesday and Thursday you wouldn't see them Friday they're coming home >> shabas >> for shabas. So isn't this something that could work? That's my introduction to how it is. I took the time to take two little kids and handle them as if they were mama's kinder which we are that's my beginning from there from Bedford and Dean I then went to Newark and Gman Avenue as one of the tamedum there from there to 770 then 60 years ago ran into the myson was then 17 years of age who should have a former and said in California >> this is this is in this before marriage >> huh >> this is in this before your marriage >> this is in before we got married correct Mhm. We we got married in December and listen is when we went to. So then looked up and said California. My parents were in the same with us. [snorts] >> Those in Gans and Gans California >> conquer whole California. In the the 60s we would not say capture, we would say liberate because those were the 60s. You say words capture, you're finished. And that's what happens. That's how we land now in Los Angeles. Aik was here. His job was to work with the Holocaust survivors, >> many of them who would were drifting away from their families destroyed. He would travel to other cities to do the same. It wasn't his job to build Muslims. So when Da sent us, we're people of action. Soon as we hit the ground, we said, "Where is that place we can be for Shabas?" Oh, young Israel on Spalding and Meows. Not far from where we were living in the Fairfax district. So my was very good with artwork. She made a drawing shop party. Children no charge. Candy songs, sodas free of charge. This is the address. She made a beautiful list. >> To your house, >> huh? >> To your home? >> No. To Young Israel. >> Young Israel. Okay. >> The Young Israel. We stood by the by the doors of the kids coming out. We gave it to them. Candies soda hashem must have had 20 girls upstairs in the Bible with my rabbitson. And at least that was me downstairs. That's how we started. >> I have a question for you. Um I'm just going to step one step back before California when you were a baker. You spoke about you spoke about from when you're a child this uh this uh connection like a father to to to a child that you felt with the Reb. Um how did you h was this the same feeling when you were Bakim and was there like an an involvement that you had like like a child to the Reba? It only kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger because you see many people didn't have the understanding that needs something. So debit would come and would be a snowstorm. So the car couldn't come in to service lane of eastern Parkway. So the Reb would have to walk out from 770 down the stairs and then the Reb would have to go to get to 770 to walk on the sidewalk in the snow. But we knew that the streets were being swept. So I got a snow machine >> like a snow plow. >> I bought a snow machine that snow blower is like it looks like a lawn mower. And what I would do is clear the way. I have a lipkin if you all the other walked with me to clear the way to be able to have a way to ever could walk. We would do the stairs of 770. We always wait more or less when that ever is coming out. Clean the stairs quickly and then hide yourself. You don't stand your face like this. One time the neighbor decided to come out a little bit early. I'm able to snow blow blowing snow. Thank God that the funnel was where yesterday in that direction. It had its own traction with his wheels. I see that coming was I stand. So I put my face in the snow. The machine is still [laughter] going forward. still going forward on its own. And then my face is like this into the snow and then I feel something. They was looking. So this is all good. So we would then go when necessary but would walk from 70 to Kingston Avenue down to where that had the apartment. >> Mhm. So we would clean the way the whole way. That's when cars couldn't go. It's like this would go with cars. Have to clean the steps. But this time the cars couldn't go. So that's what we did. Then became the question Shabas Shabas terrible storm. I gathered together a group of said we have to have shabas shabis when a lot of hot water they had an apartment and before 676 eastern park come out near the corner of Brooklyn Avenue this was the chaffy and yafi the English people with hot water they had so you have to prepare a lot of hot because we're going to have a galic shabas that we will go for a walk and shabas and us know what could be more happy than going for a shabas they could walk got the group we went upstairs got a lot of hot water and we started walking Kingston Avenue and then we cross the street because then the streets were being plowed so there would be no problem that we would walk in the street all of a sudden a snow pl coming which pushes around this all the all the step that we step now we're stuck on the corner of Brooklyn Avenue in Eastern Parkway so I said something like this like was at the oil would stand in the water. How could you let the stain >> like they would like um the water would come up in the in the cold? >> I'm talking about now going to the oil. >> Yeah. At the oil there was like >> at the oil at Da would originally would put the packages on the wall. >> Mhm. >> At the wall the getting bigger and they was always looking from the little room that was balancing them. I took my life in my hands. I came have Emily Lipka help me. We built a board like this with clips with background piece of plywood. Put it two piece of wood holding it on the wall and said missions is not an easy story. >> It doesn't work that way. But you got to do you got to do then we walked in. watch from the corner. Debit takes puts the peek on the board. De takes one another little bag or so to put in torn off piece he wants to take back with him using the clips as if it was always there. >> Clips. You had like >> Huh? >> They had like clips to put the bags. >> Yeah. Use the clips to hold these bags and the other bags would lie just on on top of the board and >> Deb just used it as if it was always. >> So very easy to go. They have used it as if it was was always there. They just used >> as if it was always there. >> Then the next step is it got to be too small. So I built a bigger one bigger walls. Ultimately both of them ended up by me because when they went to put in the when we used to put in the second board, the first board was surplus. Then when they made that little booth, that would be worthless again. It wasn't necessary. But then we see the standing in water with the sneakers, ice water. Again, you take your life in your hand when you play at the oil. We got 2 by sixes, pieces of lumber, 2x4s, and built a little platform this high. Shaking. How do you do something like this? They walked in, stored on the board perfectly, just the way it's supposed to be. Then there was a fire at the oil with their bud with not knowing how to connect the propane gas from the tank to the heater that was put in to warm. >> You were involved with putting in the heater also? >> No. >> No, >> the heater. And there was also a a uh enc casement. >> Mhm. >> Of plywood and metal. So now somebody else was driving the river because he wasn't capable >> because he got injured when he >> he was injured. >> Mhm. >> The other person what would do is hold the when it would rain or snow that he would hold him well over the reb. >> Mhm. >> Right next to where the speaking to settler. The other ting the man that drove the Reb thought they'll do the same thing. The was not good. So David then goes and walks under the roof that there is at the oil. There's a a granite roof. >> Mhm. >> Not not in the section that's covered completely, but before that. So it's still there today. >> Mhm. >> The walks are standing his feet in ice water. He said the Reb moved to different area that's covered because it was because it was uh >> That's correct. >> Right. Okay. But then the Reb's in the bottle, right? What do you do? The standing in ice water. One side says, "How dare you? How dare you with the shred? How dare you?" The other side their eyes. Why? What are you talking? Go. I take the breath of shaking. I walk by the is completely. I walk right by the eyesight. The eyesight. Nothing. I walk walked back now in front of the nothing. Then I start to shake. What am I going to do? I took a deep breath. I took the board. I walked right in front of looked up. Oh. Took two steps back. Stood on the board. Now why am I sharing all of this? You asked me before what's the youth? What's a ber? What's all these things is? You have to know [snorts] to be tied to our it starts off with you and when you take the first step the then takes you by the hand but you have the responsibility to tie yourselves to the how do you do it today so many years have gone by how do you do it just do it if the wanted could do could appoint someone to do whatever he wanted. He didn't appoint. He appointed committees like a good kabad. He appointed committees. I told you the story about Friday night with the right called. >> Yeah. >> I told you that story. That's how I got involved. >> Right. >> It was going to see the Kabad that fought the first case against that gentleman. And I don't want to even say that who stole from downstairs >> from the >> And now the Reb is talking about Fang and nobody knew what it's about. Starts to scream. Boy, boy, Shabas boy. So everybody thinks Boyant. How do you Boy and Shabas? If you're connected, you know what to do. I took a folding chair upstairs by up the wooden stairs by the door where the librarian was a dear friend of mine told the story would go in sat on the chair. What are you doing here? Reb says what he means. Means what he says. Do what you could do. Don't sit and cry. Another year with I never miss a day putting on film at least one year on the planes that I fly back and forth once a month in the lounges. Not an easy business. Not an easy business. But you do what you got to do. torture, one more woman using a mik, one more, one more, one more, one more muza. That's what it takes. That's what ties us to our And when you are tied, you always see the other's hand. Never ever alone. >> So, I have a question for you. Um, you're talking about never ever alone. So, I know that everyone knows the story of the in California. You've all been exposed to it, the teleathon and other things like that. But it didn't happen in one day. And you you started talking about you and your Rabbitson, how you started off, but I think right away a few months later or a year later, you're already bringing people to the Reba and starting the Pulis in a big way in California. So maybe maybe you can tell me a little bit how that >> how that happened and the Reba's reaction to what you were doing in California. [sighs] >> I could be here for three weeks to talk. >> Well, we'll try what we can. >> I'll give you an example. >> Among is brought to you by we live in a chaotic world. A world where for us is au we do not have the ability to hear and see the on a daily basis. Yet we know that the is very much with us and is alive and thriving more than ever before. One needs to only tap into it. provides you and your family with the tools necessary to tap into all of this. 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You can be part of their through your financial support as well through visiting our website.org or through contacting us to setting up a meeting. Thank you very much. Enjoy the rest of the podcast. >> I take everything the says literally that's right. >> The said years to make >> and people are saying that I should retire 71 new institution. By the way, [snorts] I scribble a little note. I stood next to Mayor Easy to pass things up. Only me and my can understand my writing. The 10% >> 10% of the 71 institutions Hashem, there was one young man that was there. We had bought already before that for the birthday. We bought the little crowns for like this with no crowns only. I spoke to him, you have any idea? They said why not try a kasa? So handmade from three different beautiful little >> for the >> for when we went to the we gave it to a mat the kessa. Then I brought with a ready a young man that was in one of the cities in California working for a different mid. I said you keep saying you want to go off. You want to go after this? Come with me. If you don't, don't talk with me. I'm ready. Okay. Go into the I introduced him as the first lady. >> You brought him into the >> into I took him with me shaking like this. He was took him in. That was the first of the 71. >> Mhm. >> Mus that we needed. And we created by the time we were finished we did 12 new [snorts] not so whatever says he means whatever means he says there's no such thing as >> whatever says he means whatever says he does and you will do that's the first step in all of this so then we opened up in one Yeah, 12 Mes not seven as far as that's concerned. >> Mhm. >> Mobile mitzvah tank different cities as Monica Berkeley real places but Fairfax Avenue all over. He started going to the to give a key to give a key. One time says banging a photographer wanted we should take a photographer should take a picture of what's giving him the key looks at the key and says start to shake. type of smiles. We're talking about San Diego which we call today. The Reb didn't want to take it because it said send. Reb didn't want to receive it because it said on it stand tears apart little pieces of paper which I still have. puts it on a an little piece. Alfon, a little piece that tears off a piece of the of the tape tapes upon [snorts] tapes of a >> he go I could sit here all week, not just all night, >> but many many stories like this >> and then in the first year we raised millions of dollars. We bought buildings the first year. >> First year >> of Shas. >> Oh sh. Okay. >> We raised millions of dollars by St. Now $200,000 in debt. I never asked for money. You going to looks at the report most saw the report of the financials. He never went to settle. But no one settle talk about money. was checking this settle. >> I go like this for 300. >> You shook your head that you need 200,000. >> Huh? >> You shook your head that Yes. 200,000. >> Yeah. That says I said to get the guilt. I'll give you the money. Deb opens up [snorts] the holy drawer and starts to count money. I start to shake. I walk over them. It goes like this. I come over $100. is telling you to sell each $100 bill for $20,000. >> $20,000. >> That's $200,000. >> That's yours. You have $200,000. You have amuna. You do with amuna. You don't believe. You got to believe. So, right. I called up the other driver a bottle of crown oil. There was no gaz then went to the first ger. I told him what is it you need? He says, "Money, you know, I don't need, but my daughter, my granddaughters are going out with with maring horses, very wealthy girls. They're going to marry You know, I'm not orthodox, but to marry Goy." What are their names? Call up on the phone. What was there about the line for my cell phone? It was that first bill. that they'll marry they'll become more religious and marryen next one another person called Moland Dal that's name I'm saying you could use it even the article Malo who was really fighting for existence in real estate development very very very dangerous Perhaps he would be doing. I walked in. I said, "Um, what is it you need from the rebby? What do you mean? You know what I need? I need millions of dollars." Look, see this bill? We'll start off with you'll give me a check for $20,000 and I guarantee you at least a hundred times as much. Would you put this in writing? I'll have my secretary type it up. I said, "Of course. And there was not the shake. Okay. Who did most a lot of money say? Uhhuh. Called him up. He became a multi multi-gazillionaire. And likewise all the rest of the stories. >> Everything that what we asked for we got. Period. There's more stories. I'll be here for a week. But that's a fact. So what does it come down to? Comes down to belief. If you don't believe, how do you walk into a big and tell him a story, write him a letter guaranteeing him on paper? How do you do this? How do you tell a guy who never kept kosher or anything else that his and his his wife was worse than him? She was from Bialastto in Russia. She proud to say that my would smoke a a big cigar right in front of the shul because he had nothing to do. Fast forward few months later, she said, "What did you do?" He already had died from them. Mlin, that was the name. What did you do? What's the guitar? Come, I want to talk to you. What did you do to my daughter, my granddaughters? I said, why did you ask? They would always come to my house to eat. This time they came. They don't want to eat. I said, why aren't you eating? Because the house is not kosher. What did you do? And they married Eden. They live in that's what it's all about. And today is more important than ever before than never was in history. Such a time as this time. Now is the time. That's why Kabad comes in to this picture. So good Kabad who filed a lawsuit with their bud. The first one dealing with the Higa Sword Sardum here that was stolen from the library here and we had the Swiss. Incredible story that was talking about for many many years ago that was talking about I thought I will get you a pamphlet that tells a lot of these stories that this said international those who have international connections should use it for the good we're still human you look around nobody there that looks like he had this connection makes no difference. In the morning, my phone is ringing. Tune in. Jerry Winrop, he was a chairman of my telephone. Tune in. The rebby spoke to me. Tell him I'm ready. I said, "Do me a favor, Jerry. I don't talk to the Rebby." >> What does it mean he the Reb spoke to him? >> He was in California. >> Yeah. >> He said, "The Reb spoke to me. I will do what he wants me to do." He was watching the faban. >> Huh? >> He was watching the >> soon come to that. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Thompson he didn't put on. I can guarantee you. I said Jerry I can't really do that. You have to give me some more information. He said, "I was playing with my satellite dish and as I'm clicking, clicking, clicking, the Reb is talking." And then the was talking about who has international connections should use him. I knew the rebi meant me. That's why I'm calling you. Tell the rebi. So I don't talk to the rebi. I will ask the bud to explain this to the reb. It's very difficult. As I say, I like this guy Thompson Thompson. Whatever the case is, I figure before the goes home, you I'll tell it to you. He'll tell Dab in the car by Ma is looking at me, looking and looking and looking and looking. Okay. [snorts] When finished, I walked the hallway. That blade is looking for me. wants to see you standing by the door and things are changing in motion is Jerry Wine you ask the question I'm answering you know is Jerry wine shop is armed hammer. Arm and hammer is built. He plays both sides. >> Who was um >> Armond Hammer was one of the wealthiest Jews in the world. >> He's a businessman. >> Accidental petroleum petroleum units all over the world. So says that Winra has a friend >> has a friend called >> plays on both sides on both sides with Russia and America. is all wine [clears throat] that are in Russian should talk to Dr. Hammer and then Dr. Hammer will get the books >> the books that from the are in Russia. >> Yeah. and said meaning the man from downstairs was burnt say I know it's not so >> people in say in Russia they said that as far >> not in Russia the person worked in the library here said >> according to his information was all burnt in Kiev >> I think it was then How do you do this? Ranch Travis has a big castle in Beverly Hills. Says, "You are going to come Friday night to me for a Friday night dinner together with Dr. Hammer and me." So, I don't go to a place that's not kosher. What do you mean? That's exactly that. So, I can kosher your kitchen. So, but you what do you do with the plates? I said the plates. We'll have to use paper plates. Use paper plates in my house. If that's the case, I'll buy regular glass plates. No, you're not going to do that. Wait a second. He says, I have brand new plates that have my initials on them. JW, because they made him do for themselves. So, we'll take brand new plates and that will be used for the Friday night dinner. Can we cash your kitchen? Yes. He didn't know what he was getting into which we did and we had one of our people there watching over us everything good Friday night he comes introduces me to hammer and I knew this was a chance this was a chance by the way I'm missing a point in the story which I want to go back to for a second before that so then the gives me going back to where the was talking to me at the door [snorts] so after That was not the oxen dollar for wine. So for >> that gave $18 for wine. He should have a for a full recovery not to you to me. I take the words very very serious. Like the says that's exactly what the means. It give us even That's Kent. That's what the Reba means. That's what the Reba says clearly. So whatever the case is, I land in California. I call very dear friend, chairman of telephone. [snorts] I call Beverly Hills mansion. No answer. Call a cell phone. No answer. I call the the castle in Metro Mirage. Somebody picks up the phone say I have to talk to him. You can't talk to him. What do you mean I can't? Of course I can. You will not talk to him. He's not able to talk to you now. Something's wrong. I go into George, a dear friend of his. Georgia, tell me what's going on with Cherry. It's a secret. Jerry had a hernia. Very severe that needed a [snorts] very very important operation. Nobody knows. He is in the hospital at Sinai, but it's not under his name. You'll never find him. So, okay. Thank you. I go to the hospital. You have to help me now. How am I going to find him? So I go to the emergency room. Do you know someone by the name of W? No. Then a Russian nurse who came from Russia as a nurse now working in the hospital says to me in Russian, what do you want? I said, I want a person that came in with a hernia which needs to have a surgery and I have to see him. By the way, I'm his rabbi. She says, "One second." Goes upstairs. He's coming soon out of the recovery room. Jump to the elevator. Get off. As he's coming out of the recovery room, I said, "Jerry." He opens his eyes. Tune in. Give me the Reby's money. Can you understand this? You can't. >> So that's how the whole with the started. >> Started. Then daba said when we went we saw that we had to take homeas now. So daba said it was it was myself it was mandel from the library by 11 and that's how we went. >> Theb sent you to retrieve the from >> yeah is to find the >> to find them because we didn't even know >> find and get them everything. >> Right. So the I don't remember which day when I took a deep breath. That's how started all built on a that's what I could sit here for a week but that's at least the beginning of a story is the one soon that we had orders from the to start a kabad soon as we came to Moscow which we are the members myself rabbi lean >> a kabad of Russia >> yeah of Russia rabbi later was >> but there was a sec this was by the second there was a second right does that when that Right. That's correct. So that's how >> why was there a second? >> Huh? >> Why I'm saying what happened during the >> for a week? We have to talk about So that goes back to the fight that still goes on today. We ultimately went second time which became part of the >> but what happened in the first was to identify that this existed. >> Oh okay good. >> So then then you did that. >> Okay let's let's let's start there. Good. to come there. We were VIP Dr. Hammer's people. He said, "You can't come on my plane, but I'll get you the papers." I still have the passport because Russia was closed. He had a big office, big building in the middle of Moscow. Hammer. So, we have to do How do we now find what to do? Hammer says, [snorts] "I spoke to everybody. Nobody lies to me. They're not here." I said, "I want to have a meeting together with the Minnesota culture. He's the one who holds the handle on the libraries. No problem. But it's not going to help you. It just doesn't exist." So they only want one person to go. I was the one to go to a special place of the minister of culture. Before I left, I said to Sha, "Make me a list. Make me a list." We have the catalog, by the way, of the books. We never lost it. All the ina we have the catalog of. So I said, Mima, make me a list of which books are rare. uh at least 13 books. Very different one from the other. Very different. Not some of them not expensive at all. Very cheap. Some of them very expensive. A mishmash. We come in to this meeting. Other people were waiting there also. Baba Walters from CBS was there and somebody was playing the piano. I realized this is the end of the road. This is my chance. I have to settle in my pocket. Come in. Dr. Ham was also there. If I remember correctly, he was standing with two armed guards to Minnesota culture, machine guns from both sides. Hammer was not there. Excuse me. Mixing up another story. Meanwhile, before I went in, somebody with barber waters will take more time. I sat I started to cry. Eva, I need you. This is the one chance we have. I have to settle. They call me in my eyes. You got to translator to translate. It's a pleasure to meet you. I was a pleasure to meet you. I said, I'm here because the Rebi is my life and the Reby's books are the Reb's life. I know these books. He says, look, I spoke already to Dr. Hammer. I told him they don't exist. I started to cry. He he he got confused. What can I do to help you more? Take out the list. Find for me at least these 13 books in the London library. And then I threw myself at him to give him a hug. The guys with the guns to lift the guns. I held him like the big guy like a a bear held him like this. I stopped to cry and [sighs and snorts] I'll take care of it to you. Comes the next morning. We get a call from Dr. Hammer's office in Moscow. Go to the library. They found the 13 books. We come in. We go to the Listen, you have to understand spoke Russian and understood to read Russian as well. He says, "Show me in the catalog these books." Opens it up. It says, "Pyakov Pyakov brothers were two wealthy that gave them a lot of money. They are shakers to these sword like I have shakers to the moon. That's the bottom line. So we figure out what happened here. Instead of putting them underneath that's how the fight began. >> So you came back from the you didn't get the but we knew that the existed. >> We know that it exists. Hammer says now I'll get it. Don't worry about it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. You I said, "You know what? With that clown, we were told I may be mixing up two stories, but if I didn't, man, whatever. We were told not to go to Marina Russia. We were people that were dangerous people. We were told to go to Marina Russia. We went there >> not to go. >> First we were told not to go. >> Then I'll tell you how we did go. >> By who? By who? >> Huh? >> Who told you not to go? >> We were told that was told not to go to the because we are dangerous people. >> Who told you that? >> So then we found the books. Now I get a call. >> [snorts] >> You have to come. I know quiet and you hear overriding which we were told before not to go. We had already gone to numerous other cities looking for the sword before this conversation started. The main thing was where we found them was the stuff in Moscow. There are other places with we didn't find. We went to we went to we went to Leningrad. We went to various cities to look. I fast forward now I'm backing up. Never forget I go to make I land I was saying kades from my father I'm standing there by the and I started to sing and standing by me I think he cooked and then went like Yes. Then the called me into the office. I called you back because the trial of the Weineberg estate which is another long story with the $21 million gift that we got to be able to fulfill the Reb's promise to land where he will land. Yeah. I'm upset about you. >> Huh? Reb's talking about you. >> Yes. I spring in spring. There's another long story with the wine because they're $21 million, but I'm not going to be here for a week. So, we'll continue. So the rabbit told you to come back so you can attend >> because the trial was coming to the Monday. The trial was >> California. >> Yeah. But going to court on Monday. >> Mhm. >> All of this came back to California. I wanted to lie down to sleep a little bit. There's knocking on the door. My way was the last the yoke of the land. >> The yoke of the of California. >> Yeah. The of the monies, >> right? >> We owed $18 million. Interest rates went up to 20%. >> You owed it to the bank. >> To the bank. >> Mhm. Not one bank, 13 banks. Whatever the case is, he says to me, Slmer, you have to stay here. I want to to go to the heaven. You have to stay here. What is it? You start to cry. said in the middle of all of this. But the same mush told that bud soon as we she was very much on top of the whole story with she told that the book she was so excited >> she remembers after that. And then the story goes on and on and on and on on. >> So then so then there was another like in [clears throat] anal there was a was the second >> right >> I guess after the fall of comm to to spend on time here figuring out dates we're not going to right >> we have a booklet which we'll give you so you can fix up whatever you need. >> Yeah. So I have a question. Um, so yes, I know there was a second um I think it was in there that the new group had and that's the formed that in Russia, >> right? >> Um and um >> as I say again, I'm not very good with dates, but it's all printed. >> Yeah. [snorts] And it's a lot of it has been printed in the as well. Sai Sai our conversations and Sai the story of Russia. Yeah. >> Um and ultimately the I'm saying this is something that still needs to happen the returns. But I I have a question for you regarding so you said that appointed or appointed you to be part of a um I don't know if everyone is familiar what I mean what is the function of what does it mean and why is it important was founded as I said with my in the times and a few other Jacobson [snorts] I don't remember the names of the others it's public documents And when the fight for his local swarming here became it became the kabad locally the fight the court case was under the name of a kabad >> was the one fully in charge with this and then you had to gaz And that's how the fight began. The hea fight about the library in 770 >> about the library in 770. And that's what the first time Kabad was seen in a massive kingly vote and then made it clear that it's the differences of opinion between Kabad should figure it out either them or Labavich and numerous other things that it's all printed stuff. We have a meeting every week. Every Wednesday, the members of they go to say kabad have a phone meeting. I'm sorry, not a phone. How do you call it? >> Zoom. >> A zoom. I'm not very good at the current technology. >> We have a meeting once a week and we deal with many issues. That's very very important to deal with. >> Right. to theb wantedad to be the body that deals with very important. >> Yeah. For example, if there's if there's another if there's a back to say which country, if there's a whose husband died and then the other people said, "Wait a second, your husband is dead. You have to cover the deficit like he did because you claim you want to control." He said, "You should be the one. we have to deal with the issue >> numerous other things like this >> just saying this is something that the and I know also that after the um I think it was inun the redid all the corporation all the papers and made all the members and uh the incorporated everything >> make sure everything was up to date that put a lot of focus >> on uh on on establishment >> but the bottom line is that spoke clearly what the responsibilities of Kabad is. It's so important for the local people here, the local people, which I love all of them. I come here. I love to see the people. The love is mutual [laughter] most of the time. But whatever the case is, everybody has to understand that you can't go doing things that are wild and say HalfK is not a HalfK. They have set up a system. If you believe that the Reb is the Rebba, you have to follow this system. And if you don't believe it's a young rabbi someplace, there are plenty places that could use people 6,000 all over the globe. out. We have in California 423 over 200 mls. Every time I come to 770, somebody comes over. Can I talk to you? I I want to go to California >> and we tell them the rules. Want to live by the rules. That's good. Don't go to a different place. And this is how they began. I'm very close to the very close. >> Okay. So this is an important matter. Okay. One of the integral components of being aid are theim and whether it's orimos these days give us an opportunity to connect with ourim to connect with each other and be better. What is the story behind each of these days? How did the rabbi commemorate and celebrate these days? And most importantly, what are the lessons, the takeaways, and the action items needed for each of these days? 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They are ma and they are simra and they be talking since the whole to is going to the army of never been such a generation. They knock on the doors I want to go off for what to have to raise your own budget have to travel miles through a mikvah till you till you build it. Why? Because they believe. It's all about belief. That's what it's all about. And it's not easy. Not easy at all on anybody. It isn't. Every say so many miracles. What do you say afterwards? What does that mean? And more of that. You don't believe then make yourself believe. Go to the oil. Damn is with us. Go to the oil. If you don't find an answer, I tell you a simple story. So I don't just take people because we have discipline. No hmas. We haven't got if there's something wrong, you will go to this vat that no you want to work here. That's what the contract says. Either you listen and find what you're doing or you out. So one time a young couple young couple comes to California tight in however we couldn't we want to go off cuz my wife fine and we really want to go to a place that's on the ocean. That's where we want to go. Place on the ocean. We love the ocean. If you love the ocean, there's an ocean of flower there. Call right back. Dear friend of mine, tired a good friend. I talked him sick as he was practically till he died every day. That's what you're looking for. That's what you're going to go. You want to go? This is what I need. He looks at we did our research on that place. It's like a desert. In the summer could be 120 degrees. I said, "Look, that's why I'm offering you. Either take it or leave it. Go there and see if you find the answer t later or a day later. My phone is ringing me. We saw Dab's hand. We went to a 7-Eleven to get some cold water in the city. Somebody comes over to us and says, "The Rebi sent you to me. I'm becoming more and more religious. I love the Rebi, but how could I have the Rebi? I graduate past this point. I need the Rebi should send me someone. You that was sent to me by the Reb." You put that put that in rational writing. It's not over yet. They come back. Okay. >> [snorts and clears throat] >> Now go to the oil. Want to settle to the oil. The way you do it, the way I do it is first you out, you settle. Go to the mikvah, put on the cattle, realize you're talking to the right, you settle. When you walk in, your first thing you do is look at the screen. If you don't find an answer 15, 10, 15 minutes, then go to the oil. Pull your heart out. If you didn't find an answer at the oil, when you come out, look at the screen again. I'll do it. This is simply calls me up. This is a very very subtle person that's excited like this. Calls me up. Rabbi Chun, Rabbi Chunh, tell me what happened. I looked at the screen when I came in. No answer. I went to the oil. I felt something very positive, but I still have no answer. I walked out and what did I see? Dad was talking to somebody. have no fear to go a desolate desert because that's where the Jews came and that's how they received the the Mishkan and the to so I have a question um regarding so you you mentioned a lot of things uh $8 million loans $18 million debts and he's saying was it ever hard to to do this? Did he ever did the Reb ever tell you something about about these uh If it was hard to get the money, >> no to to to continue going. [laughter] >> Continue the story now that we have some time. [snorts] >> It's only water with honey. after >> which >> it was gimmel I believe or listen >> but I did run away go out knocking on doors hi I need a million dollars a big >> you had you had $18 million debt. Basically, >> $18 million debt. >> Okay. >> And now the interest rates went up to 20%. Figure that out. >> Mhm. >> They have a lot of home, but you got to do something about it. Knock on doors. Knock on doors. Knock on doors. Meanwhile, 1980, there was a fire that burnt the building down. first kabad house in the world on a college campus because when we sent us to California first thing we did was shabas then we opened up a global war to open up release time which we succeeded then we had an afternoon tomato but then I was invited before all this happened going back a little bit I was invited we're sitting in our house getting $75 a week to eat uh and to run the organization with. $75 a week. >> Yes. From Damas. My wife Dson was my secretary. So you have one medela on [snorts] the knee taken care of and doing the work has to be done. So she says you should take this phone call sounds very important. Hi I'm from temple Isaiah big reform temple. Yes. Can I help you? Yes. The Sue Indians were supposed to come this Sunday. That's the Indian tribe from many years ago. They were supposed to come to speak to the graduation class, teenage kids, confirmation, excuse me, it's called. They canled and [snorts] they were supposed to come to talk about a vanishing tribe cuz they're all dying out. You are from that season. You are also dying out. You're also dying out. Most of you were killed in Europe. I'm listening. Do you speak enough English to be able to address this group? I said, I think so a little bit. So, you think you could speak enough? Yes, I think so. Okay. Come Sunday, this and this time, I fill up a lawyer's briefcase with pairs of film, tea lights. >> There there was a Jewish group, >> huh? It was a Jewish Jewish group. Okay. Yeah. >> One of the biggest reformed temples still today. Mhm. I come there. Nobody greets me. African-American or cleaning guy just come in. Please go in. I go in. Somebody walks in. Big tall guy. Hi. He says, "I'm Rabbi Lewis. I understand you speak enough English that you would be able to talk to them. Do you really think so? If I really think so. I speak a better English than you do. You speak an English from Hamburg, Germany, where you became a rabbi. I speak an English with a Bronx accent from the Yankee Stadium. If I can speak English, of course I can. You will come to my office after you finish. Okay. No. He comes storming in. What is this? You should know you're a rabbi. What are you doing in the heads of my kids? I said you asked me to come to speak. That's how I speak. I thought how could I be able to speak to them? You will come to my office. come to the office. Before I get in, it's an African-American secretary. I said, "I'm going to see the rabbi." She said, "You have an appointment to see him." "Yes, I do." I walked in. I use very strong language telling him, "How dare you treat another person like this? He started to cry. We became ash gutter frank. He said, "I will get you appointments to speak to the hill groups on the college campuses." He became aides before rabbi. That's how I entered into the colleges. >> Now go to UCLA and talk to the kids were hippies. Hypocrates. You could smell them before you could see them. Long hair. That was the 60s. I was invited to speak. We hit it off together because they were crazy and they felt I was crazy. So good match started to come to the house. So one Friday night sh we took the mattresses off our beds and we put them in the living room floor and the hypocrites would come the the girl hippies feed them make shabas my would talk to them a lot next week the boys would come take him to sh with me a block away Ginsburg I'm sure. But it was getting out of hand. The landlord says, "You can't do this. You really can't." I said, "But I have to." I'm sure a whole long story. Bottom line is we went to another place. They said, "You can't." Then finally, I said, "You know something? I'm well accepted at Hill because I became very friendly with the rabbi there, the campus hill rabbi. I got to find a place near the campus. I don't have a penny. Okay. We get into an army surplus truck that would pull the trailer that the mobile classroom that I had. Mr. Tank. Now we driving around the truck. I see that that building is great. It's right across the street. Those years the fraternity houses were taken over by the hippies. So most fraternities went out of business because doesn't match a fraternity with the with the mockim of the hippies. Two different worlds. Make a long story short. Stop. I get the telephone number. Okay, boys. Who has a dime? We have to go to the safe way and call Marvin Goldman dear friend also real estate broker says I don't Victor Kurtzman I don't and I don't how to call a broker to buy a building we had soda bottles left 5 cents a bottle deposit and that we gave the kids for the release time I said we have the soda bottles we'll give them into saber we get money we'll call call Martin go short c shortly a very long story I told him my is it should be 2,250,000 he looked at me a smile on his face I told you you're not good at math it's not 2 million250,000 it's only 250,000 said masletov we made $2 million in your house he started to Where are you going to get 250,000? Shortly a very long story with course every time I wanted to do something you went into we had no shabbash very friendly with said I want to give you the sh you should give me a few thousand dollars a month in Israel so I could live there. They never had no children. going >> wonder how is it going to support itself uses reason not to fry your brains but give you a logical reason which I really don't need but it makes no difference come another situation the swimming school on Robertson Boulevard which they have a big sh on Robertson It's up for sale. Great idea. Swimming to swimming to the girls will come. The boys will come from 8 to 10. 8 to 9 they will study. 9 to 10 they'll swim. 10:00 quarter after 10 the girls will come. with girl counselors. First they will swim, then they'll learn for an hour. Great idea. It pays for itself. Okay. Come into the office. I put all the gold. How it pays for itself. Ah, two down. >> Rejecting your your your ideas want something else. Then the building came up. Aha. Then embraced it with two hands. When we came to give the Keith, I'm not going to go through all the miracles how we got the money. >> At that time, there was no prototype to follow. This is how you make a nothing. It didn't exist. Yeah. That's whatever. for him. They never said yes and no. And subsequently they never said when we gave him the key to Marvin Goldmith by the never said the the the bin shops a kabad house. Why do we do kabad house? Because what would the kids on the college campus understand? Labavich it's a city wisdom understanding and knowledge. Wow. Mhm. That's how it started. It was only in the houses, whatever it was. So, whatever the case is, we go to give Deb the key. Deb looks up at Marvin and says, "To which Kabad house is this?" He's a a big lawyer, worked in the attorney general's office. He says, "Rabbi, there's only one." Says, "Don't be so humble. It will spread from the west to the north which is Francisco. I'm just telling you what it is why we're talking about from the north to the south which is the eagle from the south to the east where we really need them. You should call them all by the same name kabad house. So when a person comes into Kabad house and then moves to another city, he opens up the telephone book and looks for the words Kabad house. We should call them all by the same name. That's how the movement started and all the miracles that we got the money. I'd be here for three weeks, not one week explaining all the >> Oh yeah. What happened when you started knocking on doors and ask people for a million dollars? Oh, you're going when the told us slowly. >> Yeah, you're in the middle of saying that. >> Okay. When the said this, so right away the next thing is the next morning we were knocking on doors. We come back to California, knock on doors, knock on door. We already had a telephone. This is after the telephone when we raised money. She go looks at the big names, right, with big monies. That's where you go to. Every went slam dunk, slam dunk. Finally, it was a real galica big company that that they gave us $10,000 at a telephone. I think this is what we're going to do. And if you call it, you never get an appointment. You knock on the door. It's a different story. Whatever the case is, I never go alone. knocking on doors because maybe there'll be a woman. You can't do that. Oh, the shades are open. In in the West Coast, we tell you if the shades are open, if your wife is in the kitchen, you are not going to sit and teach a woman or a girl alone. If the So then one somebody walks in and say, "Hi, Rabbi. I have to learn with you today because my husband has a bad cold." Then what you do is [laughter] so do I. My wife will have to teach you. I don't allow it. We don't allow it here. Should be no place allowed. No place allowed. If there's three or four of them together, fine. But one-on-one. No way. That's our policy. Going back to where we were before. Where were we? >> You're saying that you can't get an appointment yet. Big >> right. Don't say no. I come there. I come there with my with my Aiden. >> You never You said you go with with your Aiden. Okay. >> Yes, I go with my Aiden. Ring the bell. Gigantic castle. Who are you here to see? I text I tell him the name. Do you have an appointment? No. But she's a contributor. Please come in with a schmate on his arm. The way that's the way they live in Beverly Hills. This little thing comes out four and a half feet tall. What are you doing here? What do you mean? You you sent me $10,000, but what are you doing in my house? I said, ' Give me a chance. I want to talk to you. No, I'm not interested to talk to you, but give me five minutes. She goes, this big gigantic dog comes. She says, you see the dog not getting out of here. He'll bite you. So, he'll bite me. I'll bite him back. I'm not afraid. Let's continue talking. She says no because if not I'll bring out a few more then I'll call the police. That's the time you know she really means it. Okay. So what do you do after that? Sit down and cry. No, you continue to knock on doors. That's what you do. But you got to remember that this comes after another on the phone that we had because two things come before after the rabbit's shortly after had burned down. So I would take the homeless upstairs in my house. Then would come upstairs in my house. Never have to turn someone away. This guy comes well dressed. So I need a place to stay. Of course go upstairs. Come in the morning. I give you some coffee, some cake, which we would do. A couple days go by. You see, he's a very sophisticated person. Bernstein, very sophisticated person. He said, "A couple of days go by." He says, "Rabbi, you want to know something? You saved my life. I have a gigantic business in Alaska. I have a private jet. My wife has a private jet. We fly to Seattle. from Alaska to do whatever you have to do and fly back to Alaska. One time, usually I would fly, if I'm flying, I take the wife with me. This time I was so busy. So I said to my wife, "Why don't you go take our daughter with? We'll spend a week there and you will fly with Georgia. I'll come in a little bit later and join you." She says, "Okay." Then he says, "I get the news. The plane crashed. She got killed together with my daughter. You saved my life. So I want to tell you I'm a multi multi-millionaire. I owe you everything. Masleto mazle. Mazle. Call the banks. The answer's coming. It's here. It's incredible. Tell me what are you doing? I'm building a school. come over to yeshiva middle [clears throat] of building another story with that you'll remind me about after we finish this very important I want to see the school this is too cheap order these things instead of those these things instead of those I'll give you the money I have all the money in the world so now I tell the banks the main bank. I said, "You know what? I'm going to get 5,000 $5 million now and you'll see from there you'll be able to help. He'll continue to help." Good. My thing, hi, you told me about all the big monies. I need $5 million now. [clears throat] Give the bank. I told him the main bank. He said, "I'll get it to you." I said, "Well, I'd like to get it today as a wire." So I can't do a wire because it's cash that I'm going to give you. Said that's fine. So when am I getting it? You're getting it tomorrow. What time will I get it? I don't know. The morning or the afternoon? This is Thursday already. No. Where's the money? He says it's coming. It'll be here Friday saying come to the house of Shabas. It didn't come. What happened to the money? It got stuck in and the plane got stuck with the cash. I smelled already something. But I believe said listen to me. Either you will bring the money Saturday night like you say or don't ever ever come back to this house. I never ever want to see you. The almighty God wanted to show me a test where my belief is in place which I told you the story with the Rebi. And if not, don't you ever come back here again. That was the last time I ever saw him. Okay, fine. Now we're ready in the new building, the new Kabad House, but very raw. We had a few offic Sorry, I made a mistake. Back up. It was before our anniversary. I supposed to go. He says, "For your anniversary, I want to take you and your wife to dinner at the Milky Way." >> Same. This is the same guy. >> Same guy. That's before. That's the end of the story. >> How I knew it came to an end. >> Okay. >> I want to take you to the kosher restaurant. I want to pay the bills. Come to the restaurant. He orders fancy wine, stuff like that. I don't do this. I don't let nobody take me personal things. restaurants this that but I had to with my wife is he orders this orders that I order just a few simple things and the the ma waitress comes with a bill turned upside down on the tray gives him the tray he looks at it hundred and some odd dollars I didn't bring [snorts] my wallet I haven't I got a credit card. I had no money. Then I knew it was over. Then I knew it was over. Then I told him the story at night as I told you before. So now all the banks are go crazy with some sugar. Sugar guilt. Went to D. De gave me a nickel. Difth million. for $5 million. Next thing we get staff staying there very very tight. Receptionist tells me, "Hi." >> Who? Who told you? >> Huh? >> Who told you? >> My receptionist. >> Receptionist. text initial calls that come in greets the people. Someone here to see you. He says he wants to help you. Here we go again. He gave me his card. It says senior vice president, city group, city corps, the big bank international, senior vice president. if he come into the office, I want to tell you I know what you do. Nobody does what you do and I know you're in a lot of financial trouble. You should only run the spiritual part of this organization. I had a lifethreatening story happen to me. I said, "I only want to do charitable work. I will handle the money. I know you're in a lot of trouble." Okay. He says, "So, I'm going to start handling it." Okay. Called up the banks. I sent copies of the card. Senior vice president. Matter of fact, I saw him. We owe a lot of money. He He was in New York. I'm I'm going to go see his office and he's a going as a giant is a says get says get told him by tell everybody this the way it's going to work he hires secretaries you lend lends us some money hire secretaries then the people start coming from city group to look over all the books had woman two other ladies to go to these things. This is it. Now he lived in New Jersey. He worked in New York. So put him is coming. So he said, "You know what? I'd like to go meet the rebi said you can come to the fabang and then put him." And the whole time I'm keeping them a breast of all of this on the phones such I I think I didn't tell you something before which I should have when the Bernstein thing came apart every morning I would call I would sing and then from there but after the Bernstein story I put on I start They cry. I'm mixing up two stories. Makes no difference. Straighten it out. That happened after the second one. I was right in the first place. So then we go to Scott. what I just said that comes that comes on the second guy. >> You could cut this out of me. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So what happens is when Sadun comes into my office, that's his name. He tells me what to do in all of this. Hire secretaries and people come as I told you before. And now he wants to go to Dev. I said good. I'm going for Putin. meet you in New York the whole time we're keeping the updated every day what's going on very strong. So now I take Sadum, we meet him in New York. His wife also came big limousine. I never sat behind the reb ever by always in front of me this time to take him over to the so after [clears throat] I said to come we go over toba go over to the he saving in the rebb's institutions he smiles and says yes I'm doing that I'm saving the institutions. Devil looks at him and says, "You should have a peaceful life. You should have a peaceful life." Oops. Renee, you you're pale. Come, come, come. We have to go. You don't You don't feel good. I'm okay. No, you're not. I'm looking at you. Come, come. Took him off. Took him to the back of the sh. Had someone go upstairs. One of my kids was taking care of the wife. Come, come down. We were supposed to fly together. Two days after I supposed to wait in New York. First thing in the morning, I get a plane back. I go into he never let us talk to any of these people the bankers or anything else. One lady was against them. I come in said hi supposed to be here with Ben still in New York but a few things I want to ask you about the $10 million grant that we're getting from Cityroup. She says grant? What kind of grant? Who told you you're getting a grant? It's alone, but only if you could bring your big man. Jerry Wine is a guarantor. I said Jerry Rancho, what do I need you for? And we know you know Arman Hammer. They'll guarant No, no, no. But we're not going to give you a dime. The next morning, stay me. I start to cry. Now I have to deal with him yet who's controlling everything. Hide all these people. So what do I do? I call up. I thought he'd be getting the mad. I started to cry. Never done it before. says I can't talking [snorts] New York Times Everything I say in the man's netshu that's how we then start to go door to door. >> That's how you started raising money >> really big time. But no no that's how we started not getting any money. So we come to one place. How many what time is it now? Yeah. Now, now you have to finish. So, so finish this off and we'll finish with this. >> What time is it now? It's >> 9:15. So, >> I got to go. >> So, we have to finish the sent. You have to finish >> I'll finish the sentence. Make your long story short. >> Yeah. >> We We knocked on all the door said no, no, no. We knocked on one door long story. I'll tell you at a different time, but the bottom line is this woman passed away and left the third of our estate to Kabad and we got ultimately after a big fight with Davis Mim, we got $21 million. And uh this is the message for for everyone. The most important you have to speak into the mic. Huh? >> You have to speak into the mic. Speak into the mic. The main important thing is [snorts] Foreign [gasps]