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Welcome everyone.
31st episode of Clappy and Frank. Two
weeks ago we had a high school dropout
turn success.
This week we have a third grade dropout.
Throw out.
>> Throw out.
>> But not just one Yeshiva. Oh, not just
>> a pretty good record.
Uh Heshy Tischler. Right.
Who's everyone's best friend and some
people's best enemy. Right Heshy?
Establishment.
>> hated. Yeah, if if if in the dictionary
there was a word for anti-establishment,
it would just say synonymous in the
thesaurus it would say Heshy Tischler.
Right Heshy? Well, you know what? You
guys could you know, I'm so happy first
of all Clappy and Clappy that's a cool
name Clappy, you know. I'm going to call
my next kid Clappy or dog one of them.
I'm joking.
And
my problem is is that
you know, my father
I'm not going to give you a whole story.
Did we start the show yet? Yeah, we
started.
>> Oh, really? Yeah. I'm getting paid by
the hour. Yeah, yeah.
Okay, nobody you know, they told me I
have a sandwich when I get here. A
sandwich?
>> That's why I came for food.
>> Yeah. Expediters get paid by the hour,
so that's why it takes six months to get
a permit. Wow. Clappy, you are not
funny. I that was not a good joke. You
got to listen to my jokes on my show.
They're really bad anyways. Anyways, I
want to tell you something.
It Pesach is coming.
And um
I have a story to tell you that
you know, people ask me why you so
serious, why you so real. You're crazy,
you're controversial, you're not I never
lie. I make mistakes. I mean, look my
wife married me.
She has a lot of money.
37 years, 21 foster kids, you know that.
Wow.
>> Three of my own. My father's family was
wiped out in the Holocaust.
He was a soldier. They killed everybody.
This was my 49th Yahrzeit for my father
Zionism.
I was my father sat me down a month
before my Bar Mitzvah
and he said to me, "Hershey, I'm going
to die.
And we're going to move to Israel
and you're going to take over the
family." Now, my father was doing pretty
well after the Holocaust. They killed
his family out. Two sisters lived, one
couldn't have children because they
operated on her.
And
we were doing better. My mother was once
married before. She had two older
children. My father took care of them.
And things were going good and I was 13.
Everything was going well. I was thrown
out of Yeshiva, but my father let me do
what I wanted to do. It was like I
really was having a good life.
He sat me down. He says, "Hershey, I
want to tell you a story.
And the second half of the story is
true."
He says, "You're going to be taking over
the family." I said, "No, you're not
going to die, pa. You're not going to
die."
>> sick? He had a few heart attacks. My
mother made him better. He got strong,
but he knew the time was coming. He was
60. I just turned 62. I was always
scared that I wouldn't make it either.
He sat me down.
He says, "Hershey, here's the story.
Um in the ghetto, there were two
friends.
One was named Friedman and one was named
Epstein."
Epstein, you know, he changed it to
change the name of it now. But Epstein
and Friedman were buddies. And when the
Nazis came,
uh Mr. Epstein became a Kapo. You know
what a Kapo is? They were like a Jewish
cop, but they worked for the Germans and
they were worse than the Germans.
Mr. Epstein had nobody and he became a
Kapo. Mr. Friedman, his friend, had a
beautiful wife and a daughter and a son.
Now, I tell this story to a lot of
younger people that I want to inspire
who get married, who start a new life,
and to do good. And my father says to
me, "One day Mr. Friedman's walking in
the street with his family and he bumps
into Mr. Epstein with two Nazis.
And of course, you know, the Nazis were
having a good time. They start pushing
Mr. Friedman around, having a good
laugh. They throw him on the floor.
And one Nazi takes out his gun and
shoots Mrs. Friedman on the spot.
Mr. Friedman starts to cry.
The next animal takes out his gun and
shoots the daughter right there.
Right before they were ready to kill the
little boy,
Mr. Epstein takes out his stick and
beats his friend Mr. Freeman. Beats him
till the blood is running on the street.
Mr. Freeman's dead.
Right before they're ready to kill the
little boy, the Jews are ready starting
to scream and a little bit getting
nervous.
Mr. Epstein says to the to the Germans,
"Let me take the kid into the woods,
kill him, nobody will see."
And my father tells me that's the end of
the story.
Now I'm going to tell you part two that
my father witnessed.
Mr. Freeman did survive the war. They
picked him up, made him better, somehow
he made it, and he came to my
neighborhood, Borough Park.
Now back in the '50s, there wasn't a
shul in every corner, in every basement,
in every house, and every We had 10, 12
big massive shuls, 500, 700 people,
1,000 people coming every Shabbos.
My father davened in one of them, and
Mr. Freeman became a gabba, assistant
gabba in one of the shuls.
And um,
you know, every Shabbos guest come to
the town, people come from Israel, and
so on. One Shabbos, Mr. Freeman is
standing on the side of the bima when
they call out a guest's name.
Something happened, clicked in Mr.
Freeman's head, the name.
As the guy is walking down the uh aisle,
Mr. Freeman turns white.
He comes up to the Torah, opens the
Torah, and he starts to say the bracha,
MR. FREEMAN SCREAMS, "MURDERER!"
"MURDERER, YOU KILLED MY FAMILY!" SHUL
BECAME SILENT, no a pin drop you can
hear.
The man gets shocked, and he looks at
Mr. Freeman. And Mr. Freeman with tears
in his eyes, "You murderer, you killed
ME, YOU KILLED MY FAMILY!"
AND THE WOMEN START CRYING, "HOW did you
do it, Epstein, you murderer!"
And Mr. Epstein, who it was, grabbed Mr.
Friedman. He says, "My friend, I can't
believe you survived." As Mr. Friedman
is screaming and crying, "SURVIVED? YOU
killed me. You took everything." And the
women were crying and the men didn't
know what to say.
And Mr. Epstein said, "You don't
understand, Mr. Friedman.
The rabbi of the town told me to become
a Kapo.
He said if I can save one person, I
should do it. When we bumped into you,
they killed your wife and daughter.
There was nothing I could do. You were
next. So, I took my stick and beat you.
You lived, you lived, you died, you
died. I grabbed your son. I ran into the
woods, and I kept running and running
and running."
And he points to the back of the shul.
He says, "That's your son."
As the son comes running to the front,
they hug and kiss and the whole shul is
singing Siman Tov u' Mazel Tov. My
father says it's not the end of the
story.
He says, "Hershey, I'm a Holocaust
survivor, and I swear what I tell you
next is the truth. As everybody was
dancing, I looked up, and I swear to
you, Hershey, I saw the Malachim dancing
with us."
I said, "Please, 13-year-old kid, no
such thing." He says, "Hershey, I swear
to you, I saw the Malachim dance."
He says, "I'm going to give you a bracha
now
that I'm telling you that's the best I
can do before I die. So, I'm not going
to give you a bracha to be healthy. I
hope you are.
I can't wish you anything. I wish you
the best.
I hope you're rich, but I'm not going to
give you a bracha to be rich, but I hope
you are.
He says, "My bracha to you is that you
do something so great that the Malachim
will dance."
A month later, Zionists and my father
went to Israel to move us.
And coming home to pick us up, he died
in Israel.
My mother and father were very smart.
After the war of '67, they went to
Hamanochis and they bought two spots. My
mother bought right in Chelkas of
Borning where Moishe is buried. They
offered me a lot of money for his spot.
I used to have to go look at it. My
father is buried a few spots lower. You
know, all all Tishler women, they all
have money, so they do whatever they
want.
And I buried my father, I flew to
Israel.
And I came home during the shiva, so I
had to do the shloshim with my rib
jacket, and when I got up from shiva,
it was the first night seder.
And I remember making that bitter,
hateful seder.
And I made that seder for 14 years. I
married off my two brothers, took care
of my mother, moved them over to Borough
Park. Then my half-brother stole stuff
from us, and we moved to Borough Park,
and I became my mother's partner from 14
years old, running her stocks, helping
her businesses, renting them out. People
were laughing at me. Who is a
15-year-old kid? And I started taking
care of them.
When I became 26 years old, I did
everything I was supposed to. And I told
my mother, I said, "Ma, I'm done.
I'm finished. I'm tired. I want to have
a life. I want to party. I made some
money in my business. I had some good
money. What business? I was a travel
agent. I went to school as a computer
programmer. I got my degree. I worked at
nights to pay my way. I was a teacher,
uh car service driver, and I put away
money, and I said, "It's time for me to
retire and go." At 26, go where?
>> 26, grow a ponytail, and do what all my
friends did, travel the world. I don't
even want to be religious anymore.
My mother laughed at me, and I somehow
this woman found me and tricked me into
marriage, my wife, Linda. At 26?
She was 20.
And somehow, you know how these women
are. All tricksters, you know what I
mean? She said, "Oh, Hershy, we're going
to have a good life." 37 years later,
I'm still suffering. Anyways, but uh so,
I said, "Linda, I'm done." And we we
just bought a house, and the [ __ ]
didn't want to move out the end of
Borough Park. I bought a house cuz I
wanted to be somewhat Jewish, you know.
>> At 26. You married, you bought a house
right when you got married.
>> money. When I got married, I said,
"Instead of" cuz I was going to travel
the world, and then this woman tricked
me into marriage. So I had no choice
either travel the world or buy a house.
And I told him that after I buy the
house there's no money. And my wife
slept on the floor with me for 5 years
raising babies, taking in guest. Now she
has
>> What's the pitch out on the floor? Cuz
we couldn't afford the bed after the
house. So uh so uh now my wife has a
beautiful bedroom. She painted it red
and some other stupid idiot color, but I
can't say nothing.
Uh anyways, um so um
it was it was uh Pesach and she was 8
months pregnant. So I went to my mother
says, "Ma First baby?" F- not even born
yet. And I said to my mother, "Listen,
Ma. I don't want to be religious. I
don't want to do the Seder. Please let
me go. You have other children. I
married them off. I took care of so many
nephews and nieces. Please let me go. I
want to go." She says, "What did your
wife have to say?" And Linda, you know,
you know how the women all stick
together. They're like little sister.
They're sneaky little devils. And they
all said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do
whatever you want, you know, you know."
They thought you know, they thought I
was too smart. So my mother said, "No
problem." Old Hungarian lady with the
crooked shaitel and all that. "No
problem." She give me 15 minutes Seder
"and you can go. Go to Florida, get in
your car, do whatever you want." I said,
"You know, I'm being serious now, Ma."
"No problem." she says. "You have
nowhere to live anyways because the
[ __ ] didn't move out of your house.
You know, stay here, don't stay here.
No problem. Now I was doing the Seder
for 14 years. I did it in Hebrew,
English, Hungarian, Yiddish, backwards
and forwards.
>> Best of all my mother What? Best of all
my mother again. Name your you know what
I mean? I do the whole My mother cursed
at me in all four languages, you know
what I mean? So I'm proficient, okay?
Not really cuz I was thrown out so many
times. So when my mother cursed she had
to pick different yeshivas not to
understand what they were talking about.
Anyways, so during the Seder I'm flying
through the Seder. It was going great.
And all of a sudden in the middle of the
Seder my wife gets up. "The baby's
coming." I said, "No, baby. The baby's
not coming. The doctor said it's not
coming for a month. I'm telling you it's
not coming." She says, "Well, I don't
know what you're talking about. The
baby's coming." I said, "The baby is not
coming." I pick up the phone on Yom Tov
and the doctor says, "The baby's not
coming."
I said, "I'm sorry. The woman's
screaming at me in Hebrew. I'm telling
you, the baby's coming." Anyways, I bend
down and I put on her shoe. As I'm
putting on the other shoe,
plop, the baby falls into my hand.
>> The baby at the seder table was born?
>> seder, wait, it gets worse. Placenta
falls out, blood all over me, Linda
passes out, she's
>> Wait a minute, the markers are done?
>> Wait a minute. Linda passes out, she's
dead, the baby's dead, my mother's
screaming in a new language that I never
heard of. My Down syndrome sister, who I
still take care of after 47 years,
picked up the phone and called 911. Put
it to my ear and they told me,
"Do not rip the cord." I said, "But the
baby." And then I look down, I see it's
a boy, you can tell those things, you
know that. And I look and they said, "Do
not rip the cord." And for 30 minutes I
stood on my knees. I was I'm bent on my
knees holding this little piece of
nothing and looking at him and I knew
right away what his name was going to
be. The police come, they cut the cord,
they drive us to the hospital. A couple
of my friends are having babies that
night and they said, "Only Hershey Tisha
comes ready-made."
Anyways, I check her in, it's 3:00 4:00
in the morning.
>> Amanities? Which house? Amanities and I
walk home in the snow. And as I'm
walking
>> Snow? In Pesach? It was Pesach, snowing.
And as I'm walking home, it was March
30th, 1991.
And I'm walking home in the snow, I look
up and I
tell baby sister, "You got me. You
screwed me again. You have brought me
back."
Now, my seder Pesach usually ends
average between 30 to 50 people. Even
when I go away, somehow me and Linda go
away, somehow 30, 40 people find us to
come, whether it's upstate or Florida or
Israel.
And Your wife says, "Really?" Half
nebich, I know. I I no choice.
Yeah, I told you if was American, she
wouldn't have got me, you know. Israelis
are very big trickster.
And they're bad cooks. Uh
so uh
So anyways,
I came home and I remember walking into
the house and my mother was sitting
there waiting for me.
She was smoking a cigarette.
Telling me what's going on. We sat there
together. She says, "Hershey, I'm 70
years old.
I'm going to see the boy married." I
said, "Ma, you're 70. There's no way
you're going to make
>> Pretty good. Two different stories. Your
father said he's dying tomorrow and your
mother said she's living forever. Right.
Well, very I tried to get it reversed. I
wanted my father to try to get rid of
the mother, you know what I mean? She
was the witch. She actually has a broom.
She flies around.
Anyways, so um
Say it isn't Cuz when you said, "Oh, my
mother sat me down." I said, "Oh, no,
here's another she's about to die
speech." But one of Wasn't ready for
that. One of the years I was in jail for
9 months in a week. I've been to jail
five times. In one year they put me in
jail for 9 months and a week.
And
>> Hold on a second. Your mother 70 years
old. Your baby was just born. You get
home 4:00 in the morning. She said, "I'm
going to live I'm going to be at his
wedding. And and the and the story is So
I'm going to get to the end of the
story. So when I was even in jail for
the 9 months, I ran the whole jail. It
was a camp.
>> What year were you in jail? I was in
jail 2013 to 14. My son's my last son's
bar mitzvah. 13 and 14? 2013 through
>> Together with Rubashkin? Rubashkin, but
he was in the maximum. He was in the
medium. I was in the camp and I ran the
whole camp. We used to wait
>> maximum, you ran minimum?
>> He I ran my jail. Okay? I made sure that
I you know, I used to give out jobs. We
used to smuggle in shoes and sneakers. I
had people
>> aleph bet gimmels going on? Aleph bet
gimmels. I had people digging holes in
the roadside
>> Hey, digging tunnels is a Rubashkin
>> Even even even people were even the camp
counselor used to come to me. He was the
head guy. He used to come eat dinner
with me. He said, "Hershey, can you stop
stealing stuff from the warden at
least?"
I said, "Well, I have Shabbos meals to
run. My Shabbos meals were nice. I had a
sukkah there, nicer than you could ever
imagine. Everybody had a lulav, esrog.
>> Why did you go to jail, Heshy? Heshy,
why did you go to jail? I I so I went to
jail because I wouldn't cooperate with
the government on the getz.
>> On what? On certain things that I you
know, I do keep a lot of secrets. I help
abused women, getz,
uh and stuff like that.
>> what says you in the if you look
>> did. They said that I filed uh somebody
used my name for immigration fraud and
then they found me not guilty. Then they
came after me for conspiracy for not to
cooperate with the government. You go to
jail for not It's a conspiracy.
>> If they want to lock you up, they'll
lock you up.
>> when they called me when they called me
to the grand jury to testify because 100
people were arrested, 100 Jews. 50
cooperated. The rabbis told me
cooperate. I said, "No. I My father's a
survivor. I do not cooperate. I have
clients to help me. I deal with Italian
clients, Jewish clients. I have secrets.
I cannot You will kill Forget the
business. My reputation."
And uh remember
>> part of the prodding, that story? I was
part of nothing. I am the man who just
makes a deal. Got you. I know things
that go on and I help people get out of
trouble. Got you. And um
And when you remember when I went to the
grand jury, my lawyer said, "Please,
Heshy, act normal." So I sat and the guy
came over to me right away there, you
know, the grand jury sitting there and
I'm sitting there and the prosecutor
comes over to me, "What's your name?"
I thought about a minute. I said, "F
you." Oy. "That's your name?" I said,
"Yeah. F you."
He said, "Where do you live?" And I did
the same thing a couple I said, "You're
not cooperating." I said, "I told you
what my name and address is. If you
can't find it, it's not my problem."
Yeah, lady, they came to arrest me right
in front of the house. And when the
judge dismissed all the cases, they
brought up this conspiracy thing.
Conspiracy is you don't cooperate. And
the judge told the jury, "A conspiracy
case is if somebody's robbing a bank and
you are not a boss and you know who that
guy is or your family member, you have
to stop him or report him. Mr. Tischler
did not do that." As a favor, us, gave
me a year and a day in jail. And then
when right when they let me go home,
they said to me, "If you cooperate, we
drop all the charges. Otherwise, we'll
take away your licenses and your
businesses."
A day before I went to jail to turn
myself in, I said, "No. Kiss my behind."
I remember one of the get people's
people worked for me, and he was shaking
when that guy was sitting there and I
was screaming at him. I said, "You think
you're going to scare me with your gun?
I'm 400 lb. I'm going to beat that H out
of you." After he says, "You can't talk
to me like that." I said, "Why not? I'm
going to jail anyways."
Anyways, I did my time in jail. I ran
the place.
You had a good time It sounds like you
had a great time there. The only problem
is I was away from the right. We had
bunk beds, no cells. We had cable TV
till the middle of the night. We had
three meals a day, minyanim. Are you
kidding me? I had siddurs for everybody.
>> So, you go You sounds like you want to
go back. It wasn't going back.
>> with Mickey? The the You were with the
other guest?
>> with the other guest. Mickey, you know
Mickey?
>> Mickey what? Schlosser? No. No, no. A
different I was there for a show.
supposed to be there for 4 or 5 months,
and then they came and threatened me
again. I said, "I'm doing my whole time.
There's nothing
>> a year and a day? 9 months and a week.
The rest was all good behavior. I
remember when I left, all 118 prisoners
came. A lot of them were my friends,
even the guards that I helped get jobs
while they were there and afterwards,
came to me and I Oh, the head guard came
to my son's wedding.
When I left, they gave me a big goodbye
speech. Cuz I ran the place. It was very
nice. But again, you miss your family
and um What? They couldn't come visit
every week? They could come anytime you
want. You can just drive up. And my
mother I didn't let come. And I remember
the head guard wheeling her in. Says,
"Has she She's coming to visit you?" I
said, "No, you can't bring this old lady
here." And he says, "No, we are not
going to let you not have a visitor."
And cuz again, I did a lot of stuff for
those people and I made sure everything
was calm and they got what they needed
from clothing to medicines that I had to
smuggle in
and stuff like that. So, it's orthopedic
shoes. It was very cool what we did. Did
you pay off the guards, Hershy? I never
bribed anybody. Sometimes they needed a
little bit of help. And has she helped?
Has she was able If you ever watch this
television
What does help mean? There's a movie
called The Great Escape. And if there's
one guy called the Scrounger. I came in
with a bag of tuna fish and slippers. By
the time I left, I had a Mexican MIS
member MS-13 member as my bodyguard.
Okay, really followed me around. I mean,
I don't know what they wanted for me.
But so I came out of jail. They took
everything from me and I thought I was
dead. I was going to declare bankruptcy.
I My tenants didn't pay rent. And all of
a sudden the chief calls me. Clients not
coming in and my business not only
flourished I'm 10 times more the
expediting business, my apartment
building
It just Forget everything just hit. You
know, even my soup kitchen and the money
that we put away me and my son, we now
feed 158 families for the last 14 years
every Shabbos without missing. And I'm
not talking a little cheap box chicken
My
boss, I'm only the man who gives money
and helps pack boxes. We've been doing
it for 14 straight years.
In Borough Park. We have a small little
center and we feed 158 families. Very
nice.
Clappy, keep it up. What is Clappy
talking about? If you would have brought
me a sandwich, I would have let you
talk.
I'm joking, Clappy. You get too nervous,
Clappy.
Me?
If you would have brought me a a
sandwich, which I would have been quiet.
You're very famous Yeah. in the world of
Jewish politicians for constantly
running for public office. I'll get to
that. You want to embarrass me? That's
fine.
>> you.
>> running for If you would have let me
finish the story, you'll get the idea of
who I am.
>> his mother What about Did his mother
come to the wedding or not?
>> home when I came home from jail
I built up my thing and I knew I had to
marry off two kids and things were going
well. And my second son, we come from a
High a Hasidic family. So, the way it
works is the oldest gets married, the
next gets married, the next. And my
son's named Avram, Yitzchak, Yaakov.
Uh so, anyways In other words, like in
your mother said she'll live till the
wedding. The bris was what? Acharei
Pesach? Acharei Pesach today.
>> the baby after your father?
>> Avram [ __ ] correct.
>> That was 1991?
>> Yes. Then '92, I had the second one, and
then two boys. All three boys.
>> And the next one was in 2000, but
>> So, you never had the girl? I've had
fostered girls, but no. And I've nephews
and nieces, but no, never had a girl of
my own.
>> did the first fostered child you had was
a girl? No, we took in some of the kids'
friends or friends kids.
>> Now, I was wondering because you never
had a girl, maybe you wanted to maybe
you wanted to adopt a fostered girl. No,
no, we had two girls that come to our
house. A lot of nieces and
>> But no biological daughter. No
biological.
>> Did your mother see the wedding? Yes or
no? So, my second son came to me. My
mother got sick a little bit, and I
moved it to the house. We took care of
it. We split our house, made our house a
hospital room. I saw what she did for my
father, so I did it for her. And
everybody who came into my house, the
rule is when you come visit me, you must
stop by my mother. And we have hundreds
of people coming all the time. And
people my mother knew everybody's
gossip, who's cheating on who, who's
back She insulted everybody. And people
were scared to visit me cuz they have to
stop off by the mama, but that's the
rule.
And I remember my second
>> Passport control.
>> My second son went on a shidduch date,
and he got engaged. And my son came to
me. I said, "You can't get married. The
older brother has to get married first."
So, of course, they screwed They cheated
me. They snitched on me. They went to my
mother.
And my mother started screaming at me.
"You're going to let him marry?" I said,
"Mama, since when do the rules change?"
Says, "This is the 21st century."
I said, "It doesn't work like that,
Mom."
Anyways, she said, "Okay." I said,
"Okay, Mommy, we'll get him married."
So, we made the chassan, and my mother
was good, and she came to the wedding.
But she didn't come to the first guy's
wedding. At the wedding, we have a rule
that tishlas whenever we have a bris
chassan, we sit in a room, and we try
grant wishes. Yeah, like the Godfather,
whatever it is, we try to help people.
My oldest son walks in to me with this
girl. Says, "I want to get married,
Dad." I just made a wedding, you know.
>> I I'm broke.
So, anyways, they wheeled my mother in.
"He's getting married." I said, "I hope
you have the money, old lady." And 5
months later, he got married. It was uh
El Shaddai's. How old was she? She was
94.
And she was in perfect health. And um we
did the Shiva broches and it was the
last Shiva broches Shabbos.
I said, "Ma, I got to go walk to Avenue
R and East 14th Street, an hour and a
half away. And I volunteer at the
hospitals. I walk around all the time. I
said, 'Ma, I'm not going to make it
back.'" She says, "Okay." Not going to
make it back for what? To the to see her
on Shabbos. Usually, I help her out
Shabbos. So, I put my brother in charge.
As I came back Motzei Shabbos, my
brother says she got sick. We took her
to the hospital and that night she died.
She didn't even stay to see the broches.
But, she waited to both weddings. So,
Pesach by me is a very serious holiday.
Now, I relate the birth of my son and
the freedom of the Jews. I know the
Aibishter spoke to me. And he said to
me, "Listen to me, boy. You're going to
help Klal Yisrael. You don't need the
money. I will watch you. I will take
care of you." And I've been taking care
of Klal Yisrael. So, when you want to
tell me about the elections that I run,
I don't want to run for election. Not
interested at all.
My mother died.
And somebody came over to me at the
Shiva, "Hershey, we can't take these two
idiots running, Yeger and Hikind. Run."
I said, "I don't know what to do. I
behind the scenes, I help raise them
money. I give them advice." I ran. I
beat them in the debate, but of course I
got crushed but I wasn't experienced.
The next time, all the politicians told
me what to do. It was COVID and they
lied to me and they screwed me. I didn't
know the system. The third time I
learned the system, I won the election
by one vote. And somehow, 20 votes
popped up 2 weeks later.
>> Oh, I didn't know that. Which Which
election was that? It was the vote for
City Council against Kalman Yeger. And
he won by 20 votes?
>> He won He won by 20 votes. And so, I or
21 because you didn't have to do the
recount of 21. In a district we we don't
even know where the votes came from.
They took go to court and fight again
with more money. I gave up. And then the
last election I ran again then Simcha
Felder and all the group switched from
state senate to city council to this you
know musical chairs and they crushed me.
So now I am going to be running for
state senate again. Now why do I keep
running? First of all I'm known by the
political world. All the people are
scared of me. The policemen come to me
for help. Judges come to me for help. I
know how to navigate the red tape. You
think I need to be elected? I make more
money in a day than these politicians do
in a whole year. Really. They're a bunch
of losers. And if you ever talk to some
of them they're so stupid they don't
even know how to add. Really. I don't
know how they do budgets. I help people
with their homes. I help children out of
jail. I have people who come home from
jail that have nowhere to go. I have 300
open apartments. One guy who lives by me
had did some things but I bring them in.
I give them a place to live. Don't
charge them rent and they pay a little
bit, get their social security papers in
order whatever and send them back into
world. And I have one apartment for
abused women. That means if something
happens even when the police come or
whatever it is I know the laws. I carry
my constitution with me, bill of rights.
When the cops think they can do whatever
they want I put them in their place.
And no matter Well why would the cops
bother battered woman?
>> Husbands come saying I kidnapped their
children. I kidnapped their wife or
whatever and I tell them that you can
jump in the lake. I'm gated up. And when
the cops come threatening me I talk to
them about warrants and I tell them
exactly who I am and I warn them if they
had take out the gun I'm a big fat guy
not anymore. The bullet better go all
the way through because if not you're
going to be in big trouble.
So you know I fight the system daily for
the people. Now I see what I can do
one-on-one. Just imagine I get cuz these
government officials they change the DOB
laws, finding my my landlords, tripling
the fines with nobody stopping us,
arresting my kids for having a a double
parked. I mean really they can do that
to you.
Idling your car, thousands of fines. You
know, we give criminal DOB, Department
of Buildings issues criminal tickets for
working against a stop work order which
they screwed you for a year because they
don't let you build on technicalities. I
have tape recording messages of
inspectors talking to each other how
they're closing all the Jewish porta
potties. You know what that means?
Jewish Yeshivas, they call us toilets.
I catch them. I threaten them. And when
they're in trouble, who do you think
they come to? Come to you? Me.
Cuz I'm the only one who knows how to
keep his mouth shut. I can go through a
bunch of stuff.
>> Actually, you don't know how to keep
your mouth shut. It doesn't seem to be
one of your skills. Listen to me. My
mouth never shuts, but I know how to do
things behind the scenes, back door
tables. And it The point is, I know how
to deal with the government. I know how
to deal with the courts. I've been
struggling on the streets since I'm 13
years old. And I've, you know, my half
brother
stole all our money, became very rich,
took my father's money. And I remember
meeting him when I was 19. He told my
mother sign over the papers. The kids
are 13. I'll learn everything. He was 36
years old. He just died. And I remember
he helped me get to Israel. When he
died, I didn't want to go to his funeral
or shiva. And the Ribnitzer Rebbe, who I
help with his shul, made me go. And when
I got there, his casket was open and all
that. And I buried him. I was stupid.
And I said Kaddish for a week. I don't
know why. But my point to you is, I even
paid him helping me with my funeral. But
when he took everything, we were broke.
Holes in our shoes, the kids, cold in
the house.
And we rebuilt it. I helped my mother. I
helped my brothers. And And Baruch
Hashem, the Aibishter smiled. Even
though he took everything away from me.
>> want to laugh and dance, Hashy?
I want you to know I have always, I
swear to you, I know you're going to
laugh. I do things to really try to know
that when I stand before before the holy
courts, I'm going to tell the Aibishter
what I've done. I know it. I know I I
So, one time I sat with a holy rabbi
that I helped out and the the holy
Kaliver Rebbe and he sat me down because
sometimes he used to call me to do
things in He didn't want to have the
beard because the Nazis ripped it or
something.
>> my father was from Kaliv and my great
great great great grandfather made that
old great great great holy Kaliver Rebbe
the Rebbe there's famous stories about
the Rebbe Yaakov Fish and the Kaliver
Rebbe big books and I remember sitting
with the Kaliver Rebbe and I said to him
Rebbe
I never going to see the Malachim dance.
He says hey see all those people that
you helped when you used to go to their
weddings those are your little angels.
I love the way he said it. I still want
to see the Malachim dance. I really do
but
so you guys think I'm a joke that I'm
crazy and I'm running. I wake up every
morning knowing that I'm Muslim
>> asking about
>> I got you. I'm not talking to you. I'm
talking to the rest of your audience out
there who make fun of and and don't vote
for me or why should we vote for the
crazy one? He's never going to win
anyways. I show you that I could raise
the money. I show you I know the How
much did you raise?
I always raise the maximum amount
because my clients even though they
don't want me to be elected and I have a
lot of you Lubavitchers they know they
have to support me. You went to
Lubavitch Yeshiva, right? Last year? I
was in Lubavitch Yeshiva in third grade.
Third And that's where I I learned to
curse over there. I didn't know the
meaning of it. So when I went home to
curse my mother beat the hell out of me.
I said but those are not bad words
Mommy. Those are bad words I shall
laugh.
But I remember I was in third grade
where my Winegarten was my Rebbe and we
used to fight a lot and I was shortish
and he used to steal my snacks.
I don't know what you Lubavitchers
you're nuts in your brain. And uh
he stole one time my bag of potato chips
and I got up on the chair and I said
>> What did he do with it? He started to
eat it. I got up on my chair and I said
I'm going to beat you up and my friend
Bichler and Yossi Hecht were there. He
said you can't fight the Rebbe. I said
well I'll fight him and I'll beat him
up.
He beat the hell out of me but I got my
potato chips back.
And I was thrown out for a couple days
that time and then
>> chips. Whatever. I I to Satmar, sorry
for Torah V'Daas, Bais Shmuel. I got to
high school.
Uh there was one more in the middle of
all of them. Where you get before the
last one?
>> Satmar, sorry for Lubavitch, uh Torah
V'Daas, Bais Shmuel, and then I went to
Adelphia and there the rabbi must have
sucked my money for a lot of money
because he wouldn't throw me out no
matter what I did. And I ran that prison
camp for four years. And me and Rabbi
Schein are still good friends 40 years
later. He met me at a wedding about a
year ago. He made my son's uh he was the
uh mesader kiddushin. Um the rabbi from
jail, Rabbi Ben Chaim, also came to be
mesader kiddushin.
>> Rabbi Rechter was No, Rabbi Rabbi
Rechter and me and him were not too good
friends, but whatever. What? That's
where you were? He was the chaplain?
Yeah. So he's a sweetheart, a teddy
bear.
>> but again, there are certain rules you
have to break and put your life on the
line. I put my life on the line. I am
not scared to stand before the police.
I'm not scared to stand in Palestinian
protests and then come and attack me.
I'm not scared when they came to my
house to kill me, two Palestinians. I
will fight for class.
>> to your house? What happened?
>> during when I was arrested for one of
the riots, you know, burning the mask
when they tried to beat up my children
on 13th Avenue. So I stopped them and
some guy made a complaint I beat him up,
which was a lie.
So they came to my house and I taunted
the mayor. I said, "Come get me."
Seven cop cars, four detectives, two
warrant officers.
>> it was Shabbos or Yom Tov, right?
>> Right. Must be Yom Tov. They were
waiting for me and I walked right out
and I said, "Come get me, you little
punks."
>> came out with the cop skin? I'm very
confused. That was where I was arrested.
So when I they put me in jail, they
tried to they arrested me, they lost my
fingerprints, kept me in jail for two
days. All the prisoners loved me cuz I
gave them a lot of advice.
They lost my fingerprints. How can you
lose a guy's fingerprints that been
arrested five times?
Anyways, so they kept me in jail to
punish me. Finally, they let me out. I
remember I was arguing with the judge.
"Shut up Tuvia, so I'll keep you another
day." I said, "Be my guest. I don't like
my wife."
And uh my lawyer just begged me. said
please have she shut up. So anyways they
tried to threaten me to make a deal and
I said no I'm going to trial. They
lowered my charges that I couldn't get a
jury trial. So I had to go before a
judge which was a gamble another year in
jail. So I said okay I made a deal for
probation and case dismissed it's called
an ACD if I don't get in trouble for 6
months. Hold on, when did two persons
come to your house?
>> Let me tell you something. I got 14 days
community service. They wouldn't let me
do community service in my own soup
kitchen in my own place. So they put me
into a gay outlet store. I was selling
women dresses. I was a great salesman
man. Those men loved it. And then they
put me in a black church in Fulton
Street. Mhm. We were serving 200 people
a day they love me there. And I remember
the mayor and they bragged how they put
me in a Jewish guy by the name of Farkas
who lives in Flatbush who was my
prosecutor was so vicious that they made
sure to put me in this soup kitchen
black church church. And I was serving
the people and they posted Is it a firm
guy Farkas? Firm guy. Pig. One day I'll
get him. I'm not going to kill you Mr.
Farkas. I pray for your death. God
forbid I love all Jews. Anyways maybe he
crashes I don't know. Anyways I won't
visit him in the hospital. That's a joke
guys. It's a joke. I love Klaussner
except for Farkas.
Anyways
so um what happened was while they were
posting my name and where I was so I
came home one day from the thing and
there were two people we have them on
video across the street double parked
Palestinians. They jumped out of the car
when they saw me and my wife and
granddaughter were there and they came
to attack me.
And of course I'm not scared and I went
to head on Did they attack with guns or
what was No just I don't know what he
had with him to beat me up. And I fought
him back one knocked him I think one
punched me in the face I didn't see him
coming from the other side. I stood in
front of the car I wouldn't let them
run. Finally they tried to run me over.
And you know the fat man do things go.
And then anyways they got away. The
police came to protect me, 12 of them. I
said, "Now you come? You didn't catch
him." I sent my friends to Shmura and we
caught him.
He bragged on text messages that we had
in court, "We got the fat politician.
We got the Jew." They let him out a day
later. He beat up another Jew. He
attacked a third Jew. Finally, the
attorney general went after him. Nobody
came to his court case except for me.
They gave him 18 months in jail and let
him out after 9 months. He apologized
that his father in Palestine was very
abusive and that's why he comes and
beats up Jews.
Sorry, Mr. Tischler. You know, I and I
was going to say in front of the judge,
"Judge, I really wish I could have had a
chance to choke him to death." But he
didn't kill me. And that's when
you know, that's what you do. You fight
them daily. So I go to the protests. One
of the other protests, the guy attacked
Palestinian attacked me or whatever. And
the cops let him go again. And me and my
boys caught him. I'm not letting you get
away with it. I'm going to fight back.
I'm working you know, with everybody
sitting me doing the last war. Actually,
you're going to Israel. I got 80 helmets
and
>> After after October 7th?
>> After October 7th, one of my great great
cousins, whatever, got killed there,
major. So I'm I have Israel relatives
all over Hasidism, modern, Mizrahi.
We're there since 1945.
>> what are you? I am a Heimish. My father
was a Hasidic.
They ripped out his beard and payos. So
then he never grew it back. My kids grew
up beard, whatever. But I follow my
father's way. He's a Heimish. So you're
Heimish, you're Hasidic? My father was a
Tosher Rebbe's gabbai. But your wife
doesn't My wife has joined my team. I
mean, she's modern, but She wears a
sheitel or not? So we're modern. We're
modern. My my my daughter-in-law's wear
sheitels, my aunts, uncles, cousins.
>> a Hasidic, but he's a Rabbi Eisenberger,
right?
>> Right. Right. So you're more Heimish.
Actually, you
>> I'm a Tosher Rebbe. The Tosher Rebbe and
I are cousins. I go to the Rebbe all the
time. He comes to me. The Rebbe
Montreal? Canada, yeah. Actually, you
told me his wife doesn't wear a sheitel
on 17th and Where do you live? 17th and
40? 46th 4th Street and they kiss her
and they they love her. She does more
chesed in a day than everybody in that
block. They kiss her and we have
children coming and going. So, you know,
I just
>> You told me Hershey, you go to the
hospital what? We go I know I used to go
every day. Now I go to the center. It's
the rehab center.
>> Our parking The brown building next door
to Maimonides near the near the parking
lot? Right. No, no, no. You That's the
hospital. We're on the other side.
>> Our parking lot at the rehab? I do, you
know, stupid stuff. Wheelchair, fight
with the nurses, doctors, and scream and
holler. Do people's laundry, stupid
stuff. Do you go there every day? Uh
every morning. Every morning? And
Shabbos, I walk with some friends and we
go visit people, hand out packages, make
people smile, do stupid videos, nothing
major.
Videos on Shabbos?
I could. I didn't know I could.
>> You just said you do video. What is
Shabbos? It said I do videos. How do you
Frank, I know that you have a little
problem hearing because we're both
hungry. If you would have brought a
sandwich, I would have given you half.
You told me you're a cheap guy.
>> Hershey, you lost 200 lb.
>> 150 lb. We don't want to give you
sandwiches. Are you kidding me? I eat
like a dog.
>> Hershey, how did you do it? My doctor I
was watching television.
And I saw an ad for exactly going back 3
years ago. And if you did it for
diabetes. And and I tried every diet.
Every diet from water diet, shake diets,
In prison, did you lose any weight?
Hershey, in prison, did you lose any
weight? Oh, prison? Are you kidding me?
I was a king. You want to see his
picture? I have a stable. Forget about
my lunch. Chulent, kugel, fish. You
kidding me? We had the meal of our life.
Doubles if you wanted. Chulent was the
only problem and I had to smuggle in the
hard salami. That was the hard part.
Anyways, so uh How how did you get
smuggled into the prison? Oh.
I had I was assigned to give people
jobs. So, we had to clean the road
leading the camp out.
>> Oh. So, I made them dig holes and I made
maps. So, all the visitors used to drop
in cheeses and salamis and
so they used to pick it up and put it in
my garbage cans and all the guards knew
you can't touch the garbage cans unless
you gave permission.
And then I used to drive around in my
truck they gave me and pick up all my
stuff.
And when I was in the warehouse, me and
the guard was friends, you know what I
mean? He didn't have children and me and
him used to talk a lot and he used to
ask me this pile you can steal from,
this pile you couldn't. When you tell
you can't steal from a particular pile
it belongs to the warden shed, beautiful
vegetables and fruits.
It was mine.
When did you start your radio show? Your
Wednesday
>> was in jail just an introduction when we
called up Hershy we were trying to get
him on the show. He said, "Clappy,
Frank, listen closely. Wednesdays are
not touchable. I have a radio show.
That's right. Any other day of the week
I can try to accommodate."
Tell me when you started your radio
show.
Who do you bring on as guest and what do
you try to accomplish in your message?
>> When I was in jail, I used to talk a lot
and give people advice and as I walked
the you know, the the jogging path. So,
people used to talk to me from rabbis
and people would tell me their problems
or secrets or things we had to smuggle
in
and that was my office and the basement
I used to sit in the corner.
And
so people used to say to me, "Hershy,
you just talk so much. We just get so
much of Hershy or too much of Hershy or
not enough Hershy." And one guy used to
walk with me and say, "You know, why
don't you make a radio show called Just
Enough Hershy?"
>> Just Enough Hershy.
>> And we talked about it and I came home
and I was telling my son. My son said,
"Yeah, Ty, I can get you some time if
you buy whatever, Just Enough Hershy."
And I started a show. I used to bring up
politicians, crazy people, just anybody
who wanted to come on the show. Now it's
more politics, but anybody wants to come
on my show, magicians, people who have
stories, Holocaust survivors.
>> Hold on. Hold on. But now it's pretty
much me and my co-host and I had a
co-host
>> Who's your co-host?
>> Uh now it's Tom Bryce, a guy who helps
me very good with my politics. Back then
I had a whole team of comedian, my best
friend after he died who died and he was
my voice of reason all the years even
when I came home, "Hershey, you could do
it again." He It was It was solid to me.
When he passed away, I took in his
daughter and he was mine.
>> Hershey, you show your badge, your
little thing you walk around like a like
a clown? Always. That's right. Just What
does it say? It says Just Enough Hershey
Show.
>> Not Mr. Kaplan. Watch you know what's
crazy?
>> Wednesday night, 9:00. They told me I
can't do it, but you know what I mean?
They didn't bring me a sandwich, I can't
be quiet. Carby, you know what's funny?
I always thought he was a nut neck for
saying, "Watch my show." Now that we
have a podcast for 7 months, it's I I
sound just like this this meshugana.
Watch my show. Watch it. And and you
have to learn how I you know, I didn't
really care to sell my product. I'm on
the radio, I want to I want to educate
my neighborhood.
>> Renner? And it's made for
>> Hershey, with that Renner, right? With
that Renner. It's made just for my
community, so they can come out and vote
and be educated. But now I see that it
doesn't work. So now we're going to make
it more profitable. We're doing social
networking all over. It's going up big
time. I'm not really interested in
making any money on it. I don't even
When I do advertising, I do I advertise
for people for free. I don't need their
money. The whole objective of the show
was was to educate. If somebody has a
problem, to know how to reach out to
Hershey. And I thought I was doing good.
And I really wanted to cancel the show a
few times.
And? And I don't know, I just keep doing
it and I keep running for politics like
you keep saying. I want to retire real
badly and nobody believes I'm going to
retire. I'm going to sit on the beach
with my wife, Linda, and drink pina
coladas and make fun of the rest of you.
But let me ask you a question. And I
know you don't like these hard
questions, but I'm going to ask it
anyways.
>> He can handle anything this guy. A
couple of years ago, something happened
with somebody that maybe you would
consider him an opposition person to
you. I think he's a very famous um
news reporter.
I'm not even going to say his name.
>> Famous. And he says that you were like
antagonizing him and you told somebody
to surround him and he was held, so it
was captivity and you got arrested. I'm
going to tell you the true story. What's
the story?
>> I'm very involved with the police, like
you have a lot of your guys very
involved with judges and people. And
happens to be it was COVID. And the Jews
came out to do some special shaving, the
police didn't let. In Crown Heights? I
remember.
>> No, this was in Borough Park. Borough
Park. So I came out about 8:00, and I
came out with a couple of young guys,
and I danced with them, and I jumped in
my car, I had another event, and then
from there I went to Crown Heights uh to
your uh special shaving. And I got home
really late that night. It was like
12:30, quarter to 1:00. Exhausted.
And I keep my phone on day and night,
even on Shabbos. Shabbos I don't pick it
up, but if somebody dies in the hospital
and they need my services or somebody's
arrested, there's a signal and I pick up
the phone. If it's super emergency.
Anyways, that night I got home real
late. I And Linda was really really
upset with me. It was, you know,
Yom Tov, and this is how you how you
come home, chol hamoed, you know, we're
supposed to spend I said, "Linda, it's
politics, and you know, I had to make my
rounds. COVID, you know, I kept I made I
kept open. Not only did I open all your
parks, 19 You opened the Crown Heights
parks. 19 parks.
>> Hold on, Rabbi. Here's the best part.
Shmira and Shomrim are the Mr. Machos,
right? They all
When it came to COVID,
they refused to open the park. However,
they did deliver the snipper cuz Hashy
>> my own snipper. He says he had his He
had his own He didn't have his own
snipper. He had an argument about the
snipper.
>> make a big deal.
>> have his own key. And you know what? In
Williamsburg, And Hashy came
>> Rabbi Niederman was supposed to open it.
They called me to be their guest there.
He chickened out, and again I had to
call the While the police was standing
right there. Hashy, I called you. I say,
"I'm not scared of you. Hashy, I called
you. I called I have the videos.
>> constitution. I called you and I said,
"Why are you not opening Lefferts Park?
The kids are platzing." So you said,
"Where is it and I'll come." The problem
is that I worked in a call center then
remotely at home, and I couldn't leave.
I was scared I was going to get fired.
But everybody was sending me live
videos.
Everybody was sending me videos. park
and Lefferts Park. They were sending me
videos in live time how you opened up
Lefferts Park. You snipped it, you
opened it, and then the cops came and
there was a MILLION MOTHERS AND
CARRIAGES AND BABIES AND THE POLICE
STARTED telling people to leave. Each
person that left, 20 more people CAME
IN. AFTER 20 MINUTES, NO, NO, NO. NO,
NO, NO. You know what? What you don't
know, the reason the reason why the cops
left was a little black kid came over to
me while the cops are standing there,
smacked me five and said, "Thank you,
Heshy." Cop had to turn AROUND AND
LEAVE. WOW.
I ALSO felt
>> up 105 ran 104 weddings. You know, we
snuck in through the back door, followed
the chefs at night. I remember one chef
called
the guy from
not Must Be Af, from Masaskim. Yanky was
very famous. He says, "Can you please
tell Heshy to stop following us?" Cuz at
8:00 they got off and that's when I
opened the front gates. Usually we snuck
in. Did 104 weddings in Hisach. Remember
going in and sneaking in. Heshy, how did
you know That particular night, it was a
quarter to 12 quarter to 12.
>> you went to jail or after?
>> before. It was 1:00 in the morning. And
I got a call from
Inspector King. He was the chief of the
66. He says, "Heshy, get yourself to
13th Avenue right now." I said, "It's
1:00 in the morning, man." He says, "You
have 2,000 kids here burning masks,
screaming and holding back traffic. You
are responsible to them." I said, "Are
you crazy? You have a councilman and
assemblyman, a senator, you have all
your rabbis. Why you calling me? They're
all yours. You're the one who
instigated." I said, "It's getting what?
You guys made COVID. You interact with
all your different agencies. I stop you.
So, the kids are burning masks because
of you." I said, "I wasn't even there.
I'm in Crown Heights. I'm tight. If you
don't come, Heshy." Oh, we're going back
to the story. Yeah, it was Yom Tov.
Yeah.
>> Yom Tov. If you don't come to help them,
I have 400 cops that will come and some
of these children will get hurt. If they
get hurt, it's your fault." I said,
"Inspector King, you do not do that." He
says, "You have 10 minutes to get here
or I will start attacking them."
I jumped in my car, ran through lights,
nobody stopped me, got there, somebody
beat up another reporter,
Uh a guy's brother who was a moiser
going into our wedding halls reporting
on camera.
And um
When you say moiser, Herschel, I want to
say that at that time
people felt religiously compelled. They
thought spreading COVID, killing people.
It was It was a
It was a crazy time.
>> a difference. A moiser is a moiser
whether you're right or wrong. Go to
your rabbi.
And the point being is even Kalman
Yeger, our councilman, father was
walking around Borough Park screaming at
people, "Wear your mask!" And I used to
laugh at it and burn it right there in
front of them.
So, that night there was a lot of
fights. And when I showed up, everybody
was screaming, "Herschel, Herschel,
Herschel." Now, you're not allowed to
use the police car's microphone.
The inspector came over to me and said,
"Herschel, you got to disperse them." I
said, "Listen, you're crazy. You can't
disperse them. 13th Avenue, you shut
down, buses were being shaked, garbage
fires all over."
>> This was Simchas Beis Hashoeivah,
Simchas Beis the last day.
It was one more day to go. I'm sorry, it
was the second day.
>> Sukkos. It was the end of Sukkos. I
remember it like yesterday.
>> more day, Chol HaMoed. Moed Yom Tov is
when they arrested you, though. That's
for sure.
>> Right. But this was after this I was
arrested. But this was before that. So
>> Right. This was the lead-up. And I
remember
so I said to the to the cops, "You got
to give me something." They said,
"Listen, we will allow you on COVID,
we'll give you two blocks, and you can
close it up, have your music, and do
your Simchas Beis Hashoeivah." Does that
have a Ginsburg connection? Get
everybody home. I don't know. I went on
the microphone, I got everybody out of
the streets within 1 hour, the firemen
pulled out the fires, and the next night
we set up a Simchas Beis Hashoeivah, and
the cops paid for my music.
2 hours later. Now, while we were there,
they were walking up, some people
enticed me with their videos, they said
dirty words, I tried to keep quiet, the
cops followed me. They were watching me.
We had like at least 70 cops there. You
were the ringleader of all the fun.
>> And they were watching me walking back
and forth, kids were following me, music
was going on, and then they start
screaming, "Herschel, the moiser, some
guy who called on national television
the mayor I made peace with him but he
called the mayor on Yom Tov. We're all
watching this on national TV and he
gives out the address of the shul which
is his shul that's open.
He said it on national television.
Everybody knew who he was. Crazy times.
>> So he shows up at our event where they
told him not to come. So all the kids
ran there screaming and surrounded him
and threatening him. So I ran over there
to protect him.
Anyways, I screamed at him too. Nobody
touched him and the cops came and
whisked him away. We had cops all over
the place. Then they accused me of
hitting him which was a lie. It was on
video. Anyways, they came and so I ran
the next day I came to
to that sukkah, the big sukkah,
Rubashkin's sukkah. Rubashkin.
And I remember somebody was videotaping
me and I went down the videotape and
said, "Mr. Mayor,
come get me."
Oh, you opened up a can of worms. And
the governor and him because the
governor hated me more and he even
quoted my Twitter site. They came and
arrested me on Yom Tov
in front of my whole family. And I was I
didn't care. I was going to fight them
but it was a very good publicity event.
I was right in the middle of election. I
thought I had a chance to win with that
but it didn't work. Hershy, my brother
asked a question. Do you know any people
with the easy with the easy childhood
that have big personalities?
Oh, I've I've had a lot of people that
struggled but yeah, I mean a lot of
people have made it
I I don't know. Maybe
I don't know. I know a lot of important
people, a lot of A-list people, a lot of
regular people
>> My my brother says that people
>> person.
>> He's basically saying that people that
struggled as a child, they develop a
character and a personality.
>> struggled.
See, your father died at 13.
>> mistake. I understood that I was
>> kicked out of school every year other
year. Again, I understood
>> of my yeshiva, I understood I was a
dumping ground.
every yeshiva you come
And he always gets thrown out. But my my
theory I really at 13 was
I don't have to compete against Frank or
Clappy. The only person I have to
compete against is myself. Each day I
must make myself better. I had my
attitudes, I had my issues. You know,
some people have sex problems and drug
problems and drinking problems. I had a
problem with smoking and eating. I had a
problem that I had other issues that I
had to Everybody has their
um
you know
>> misunderstandings Well, I had
misunderstandings. I know what mine
wasn't so serious like when I was in
jail.
I had to try to get some good behavior
time. So, I joined anger management and
drug treatment. So, I'm sitting there in
the course and the lady comes over to me
and says, "What's your problem?" I said,
"Well,
I smoke a lot." She says, "This is a
drug class." I said, "I can't come. I
think cigarettes are a drug." And she
gave me a hard time. And I remember when
I had to speak, I had to get up and say,
"I am a cigarette-aholic."
And the guy used to laugh. And that's
what I did. And when I went to anger
management, I did it four times. I got
off 12 days.
And I did it again. "What are you angry
about?" Oh, I used to complain about my
wife and my children. I used to complain
about my rabbis. "What about when you
were a child?" I said, "Oh, I hate my
mother, you know." It was like cool
things to say, you know. And it got me
out of working, you know.
And
but again,
the kid was never beaten up. They
arrested me and then they blackmailed me
to try to stop me during the COVID, but
I wouldn't stop.
I didn't have a tough life. I understood
that life is tough.
I understood it when I was young. I
understood it when we didn't have heat
in the house. And my mother kept it at
61. Now, my house is at 90°. If you come
into my house, you have a breakdown, I
said, "Go open up a window." Okay? My
wife sometimes when I really get a fight
with her, I not only put on the heat to
90, I put the electric heater on. It's
101. She says, "I'm sleeping in the
other room." I said, "That was the
point."
Actually, do think you're misunderstood?
No.
Um people are and when I I know you're
going to laugh, I'm they're jealous.
They're jealous that they don't have
People are fearful. I don't know why.
You know, I also get up in front of an
audience and scared. Scared of what?
Scared of what? Scared that they tell
you no? Scared they throw something at
you? Scared they're going to beat you
up? Yeah, you have to be scared
somebody's going to kill you or run you
over. You have to be careful.
You have to do things right.
But the only person that I'm scared of,
the only thing I'm scared of is my holy
father Dybuster. I wake up in the
morning knowing that he's having a good
laugh. He's going to say to me, "Wow,
God I messed with Heschy today." And I'm
happy because I'm making Dybuster happy.
Maybe I'm making the world a better
place. That's the way I look at it. Not
that he's making fun of me and torturing
me and making me suffer and I don't have
$14 to take out my cleaners. You know
what I mean? I have no problem with
that, by the way.
Heschy, if you had real Heschy, if you
had a real political power, what are the
first five things you would change?
That's right. And do you think you get
along with other politicians? You need
other politi-
>> Politicians come kiss me all day long.
You don't know You don't have a
secondary phone just for emergencies and
they tell So what would you change? Five
things, Heschy. the ambulance driver on
the way to the hospital tells my son one
time, "Your father does thing outside
the box." I said, "Yacov, I don't do
things outside the box. Those idiots are
scared to work anywhere but inside their
little safe box." And so if you had
power, what are the five things you
would change?
>> So as I told a lot of people, number
one, our budget who are these are
uneducated, incompetent, low-life,
stupid uh city council people. The
reason why we're so way over budget is
we have to look at the government
agencies. They do nothing. Did you ever
call the DOB? You can't get through 80
times to your calls. Do you ever get
through to your councilman or your
senators? Really, try to call them. 80,
90 times till they pick up the phone and
call you back. I would like to
>> success reaching the the DOT, the DOF,
the DOS, the FDNY and uh of course 311
is does that is 311 helpful or 311 is
the worst for everybody.
>> Wait, I'm going to tell you about with
them. I'm going to shut them down
completely.
>> Okay.
You combine these agencies because
during COVID they were able to work
together. They were able to get issue
right now they can't work together but
during then they were able to issue each
other's fines, shut down buildings, stop
weddings,
issue us criminal tickets. The fi-
police dep- salutations
>> Okay, number one you'll merge agencies.
>> If you look at the budgets that they
spend which I reviewed the city budget,
I can save 2.2 to 2.4 billion dollars.
>> you told the mayor. I I told And in the
famous interview Everybody Everybody
knows that Mamdani watches our show
every week.
>> Okay, good.
>> So Mamdani Zoran he couldn't show you
how to save 0.1 billion dollars in the
budget.
>> better. I've sent this in by the way.
Number two. He watches the show. And he
sent it in he sent it in person. I sent
it into At the Yanks. Now you're going
to say, well actually by combining the
agencies we're going to lose violations
and tickets and fines. No, by allowing
the people to build and move things
quicker across the board and stop
>> the red tape More income is going to
come in. More taxes will be paid. More
fees will be paid instead of finding us
and making us to go to court. You know
the judges by the city who do parking
tickets must find 173 guilty violations
a day or they get fired. Now why must we
do that? Just raise the price of a car.
I know it's a state
fee. Charge a $10 fee to every city just
to register their car. You will make
back double the money you're getting
from your tickets. Double the money and
you can use all those little policemen
to move traffic along so we don't need
congestion pricing. Number two. That's
number two. Number two is Number three.
We're holding number two.
We're holding number two number three.
Number three and number two is most
importantly is that what we have to do
is we have to look over a lot there's a
lot of agencies that do nothing. There's
one agency that spends a half a million
dollars a year to decide where plaques
go. Not to move the plaques. They decide
where to move a plaque or a statue.
>> What's a plaque?
>> You know, a little sign that goes on the
park wall or a statue. Their job is to
tell you
it should go there. I swear to you, it's
a lot of people there.
>> What agency is it called? It's uh I
forgot the name of the agency.
>> Half a million dollars a year?
>> Half a million dollars a year.
>> How many employees? Uh I think they have
like four or five.
>> Can I get the job and just keep it for
myself?
>> in the in the in Central Park, you have
a bunch of people that are making over
30 million dollars of their high-level
positions. You're talking overtime alone
on the police. You know, we have a 8
billion dollars So, number three,
overtime police.
>> dollars a week spend on our police
force. Now, you want to defund the
police. That's the dumbest thing in the
world.
You have 50,000 police officers. 1/3 of
them are used for uh
office work. I don't know why.
Another third are doing overtime hours.
What does overtime hours mean? It means
whatever your salary is, you're getting
time and a half, double time. So, a guy
who does a 24-hour shift is making not
three times his salary, he's making six
times his salary.
Now, you All you have to do is cut the
shift down. After 8 hours, he goes home
and find somebody to replace him.
There's no reason for him to work
overtime. Stop the overtime, we can cut
3 billion dollars off the police budget.
But, forget cutting it off. Use that 3
billion dollars to bring in more
policemen to help us with safety and
issues. I can bring in another, I swear
to you, 10,000 cops with that money.
>> do people not
>> Construction and building. Instead of
keeping us the zoning regulations down,
allow us. I know you don't like the city
of New York. Landmark is completely
stupid. But, if we build buildings that
I can build in my home backyard, do what
I want to do, can can continue allowing
me to rent above what I'm allowed to,
charge a rent tax. I'm saying we're not
a rent tax to people that have existing
buildings.
>> you have also their safety. You don't
want to have buildings collapsing like
in China.
>> course you have to follow plans and
permits. But, you know what it is to
file a set of plans and permits? They
don't expedite it. 6 months to get a new
job approved. And not because we don't
do it right, cuz the examiners are so
incompetent and stupid and they waste
our time, they postpone our inspections.
And the worst part is is they can do
whatever they want. And after you pass
every inspection, they can still reject
you and stop you. Number five.
Millions of dollars of our money. Number
five.
>> Five.
Our landlord-tenant court system takes 2
years to evict somebody. I know people
in my family that are dealing with this.
They buy a house, a million and a half
bucks.
>> to be 6 months, 7 months.
>> years in, they still can't get them out.
>> It's not that you're evicting them.
These people don't want to pay or they
know how to damage your apartment. You
get violations because they call 311,
that fake number. So, you make fake
damages, give you fake violations,
you're paying fines to the city, you're
hiring lawyers, which is not fair. 100%
not fair.
>> long should eviction take according to
your opinion?
>> should take not more like any other
state between 3 to 5 months. My job is I
can't torture the judges. But as a city
councilman, they use my parking space,
my office budget, my offices. Take it
all away from them. Anybody who runs
court cases more than 4 months. People
who take the time Do you know who does
have the decisions? The clerks. Clerks
are making decisions for them.
Incompetent.
Unfair. And that's what I want to stop.
It is so much more of that budget that I
can cut down if you actually look over
it. I gave you the time. So, you want
five things, I have 50 things I can
give.
>> Wait a second. Wait a second. We did
already the five things.
A lot of people that are watching the
show and people like me growing up in
Crown Heights, I always knew Heshy
Tischler for parnassah, your 9-to-5 job
is you're an expediter.
You help people that are getting permits
or having violations.
>> from their houses, shiva shut down,
shuls closed down.
>> a I have a double question. Number one
is how did you get into the business?
Number two, I'm kind of three parts to
the question. One is how did you get
into the business of expediting? Number
two, you said that it's so corrupt that
everybody has to have an expediter. If
everything goes and it comes normal,
you're going to put yourself out of a
job. I don't care. Baruch Hashem. You
know And number three, what do you as an
expediter who charges a client to help
them get rid of all these issues, what
what are you what are you able to do?
Like I'm just
>> Anything. I'm not telling you to tell
No, no. I'm not telling you the secrets,
but give me a little bit idea of how you
get them expedited.
>> so here's the deal. Again, how did you
become an expediter?
>> because of Lubavitch.
Um,
and I know you're going to laugh and
think I'm lying. So, my I bought a I was
doing real well in construction and
development.
>> Real well?
>> Real well. I was doing I was a plumber.
>> a little bit I was doing I was a
plumber.
>> real well. I thought it was a type of
work called real well.
>> a plumber. I was I did a government
program and I worked for my brother and
then I went and did plumbing on my own.
Then I started to work for people. I
started doing minor construction. Then I
started doing developments.
And then I put away enough money to buy
my own little building I was chasing.
And uh the lady died and the children
had a hard time and and finally I bought
the building and decided I'm going to do
what I always do. I'm a builder. I'm a
contractor. I go to my architect and my
architect cheated me.
50 grand couldn't get me approved. The
building department started causing me
trouble coming to my building.
>> Where was this building?
>> Borough Park on 54th and 16th. Was it
near Lubavitch? So, um I In the middle
of the night I started working on my
building, finishing it up, hiding it,
fighting the city, fighting the chief
inspector. It was like crazy violations.
My partner Pinny had a problem. He was a
big developer in 2008
and he lost his project. I bought my
building just before the collapse.
So, I gave up all my job because I put a
million dollars into this building, all
my money.
This is supposed to be my office and the
income for the children.
And the building department wouldn't
cooperate. So, me and Pinny when we
joined up, we started doing minor
construction jobs again. We gave up all
our big jobs and we started to fight the
building department. And I remember as a
citizen I used to scream and holler at
them and they used to threaten Pinny
that if he doesn't behave, we're going
to throw you out.
And I remember cursing the chief. He was
a black guy. You piece of effing every
day. And one day I passed a window
and I see become an expediter. 50 bucks.
Fill out the form.
>> You said to become an expediter for 50
bucks? Back then, of course.
It's a course. No, fill out a form.
Yeah. Now you have to take a course and
a honorable test. You know, you can't
bribe people. Back then it was simple.
So I became an expediter and I started
doing it from the inside. And again, the
chief was giving me a hard time. And I
remember I was volunteering in the
hospital one Shabbos
and in walks Chief Gordon Holder.
I said, "What are you doing here?" Cuz
we used to curse each other every day. F
you, F you. Yes, I used dirty words
sometimes. Anyways, people used to laugh
at my fighting with him in the morning.
His daughter was one of my people I gave
out my packages to.
And I gave him a package. You can't give
me a slap. I can do whatever I want. And
if you don't behave, I can throw you out
of my building.
And I went back for solace in this. I
gave him sandwiches. Monday morning I
came, he sat me down, he showed me what
to do, and I passed my building right
away. And anybody who had a problem with
Chief Gordon Holder for the next 10
years called me.
And he used to recommend people to come
to me. He says, "You know, if you have a
problem, Tishler knows the ways." And I
learned the court cases. Just shows you.
I taught other expediters how to become
expediters. I taught other people how to
become a court
to fight
court cases. I'm happy to teach other
people my business cuz I want them to
make a pony. So I used to teach widows,
single women, women who finished women
to become They became very good. The
Babaji places. So right after I got my
building approved, I got a call from the
Babaji. They shut down the Ohel Mikvah
and three of the houses. So what do you
want from me? We heard how you fought
the city. We want you to come help us. I
said, "I don't do this." "We'll pay you
a fee." I said, "I don't take a fee."
And me and my partner Pinny, we were
doing plumbing. We had a licensed
plumber and we helped with the gas and
we tricked the inspector and we opened
the Mikvah and from then on in people
just started coming to Well, that was
your first job.
Okay, so you got thrown out of the
Babaji Ocean Parkway but they put you in
the
>> Open up the Ohel Mikvah.
And then from the
time coming and then my partner said,
"Hey Shielona, we start charging." I
said, "We're we're contractors." And
people just start coming and coming.
>> Hershey, there's a rumor going around
that you opened 770 after the tunnel
bigger. So when your tunnel happened,
they gave you the vacate order. We were
called by somebody to use our engineer
to give the reports and help get it up.
We were one of the group of people and I
take full credit. Well, not really, but
I you know me, I like to take more
credit than I'm entitled to. And we
didn't get paid by the way to help you
open the 770. Yes. Actually, you want to
be one of the many that helped. Would
you want to become anonymous again or
no? A what? Would you become anonymous
again?
I was never anonymous. You think I was
anonymous? I was known in my
neighborhood for helping the locals, but
I was never on your television screens
or radios. People when they were in
trouble,
whether their child was kidnapped or
fight with the I used to take care of
them. Now you people know a little bit
more about me and you call me First you
call me crazy. Now I'm not crazy
anymore, I'm controversial. When I met
Mendani, I'm a double-crossing
backstabbing capo. But when I made a fun
with him, some people liked it. I mean,
either I'm human you know, the Shiva
world when he needed my help, this guy
XT, he called me up for help. Hershey,
I'm never going to make fun of you
again. Now again he makes fun of me.
During COVID, he made an interview with
me and when he you know, I donated I
gave a lot of money for advertising to
Shiva world. Somehow these rich people
double-crossed me and the day of the
election, he took my money and then he
advertised against me. You Shiva world.
You're not allowed to advertise Whoever
pays you can advertise. What's the
problem?
>> went and took other people's ads the
last day of the election and did bad
things about me. Hold on. Hold on. Hold
on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hershey.
Hershey. I don't know him so well.
He's been very nice to me. You He took
me and my wife to lunch 2 weeks ago.
>> love you.
I spoke to you that went to his house.
He did some illegal stuff. And I gave
him advice how to fix himself up. I'm
not scared to tell you. He took us to
the He paid the full bill. He let us
order the whole menu. I can't believe
it.
He gave us a tour. I asked him to see
his Hesed organization.
There's a lot of people who have
Multi-million dollar Wait, let me
finish. Multi-million dollar building at
the corner of Coney Island. I saw what
goes on there.
Helps disabled people. Gives out
wheelchairs, oxygen tanks, has 250
doctors and nurses and PNs and the RNs
and FFNDs. Impossible. I saw what he
does. He's an amazing Ish Hesed.
So, I'm just I don't know the whole
story with you. I would have He has to
He has to defend himself.
>> have to do nothing. He doesn't have to.
He advertised the last day of the
election against me for no reason. Wait,
did he pay for the last day?
Did he pay for the last day? What? Did
you pay for the last day? I know that I
hired a marketing company for
advertising and the last day maybe I did
it for the last day. Doesn't make a
difference. You have a guy that you
advertise No, on this topic I have this
fight with Klapisch. No, I didn't I
don't know this story. I'm just saying
you heard that I I heard that I had your
I had your back. I've spoken to him
afterwards and I call him idiot and I
did ads and I did interviews with
Yeshiva World. He feels that to get his
stupid
website going you need a name something
to knock. People knock me all the time
from political, from the newspapers,
from televisions. I don't know this He
might be a fair journal. I think he's a
fair journalist. It's okay. I don't
care. Let me get your opinion. Me and
Klapisch have this argument. If we have
let's say a
carrot advertiser.
You know, Chaim's carrots.
>> I don't like carrots. Okay, Chaim's
carrots. Can we do potatoes? Chaim's
potatoes.
Could we advertise on on our show
Yankel's potatoes also?
Is it a conflict? Yes or no?
Yeah.
It is. I agree with Heshie. I always
tell you to take the money.
>> Now, let's say Chaim's potatoes stopped
advertising. The next week we get
Yankel's advertiser? No problem. The
next week I think you have to wait a few
months.
>> Now, if a guy advertises for the
election and the last day he stops, you
can't use that same election campaign to
go against him. It's still the same or
You don't think you could sell ads on
both for both for both candidates? I'll
make more money, double money. Correct.
What's wrong with getting double money?
But not write something negative against
one of the candidates. I don't know what
the rules are. I don't know. I know we
have this The rule is is we're not
[ __ ] We're Jews. That's why we
advertise at stupid Yeshiva World. You
act like a Jew. When I treat people but
you know, I have clients that masso on
each other and sometimes my client gets
in trouble wants to masso back. I tell
them if you masso, I don't work for you.
I know that there's a fight, we'll make
a deal. I don't work for Moishe.
You think developers will fight their
masso in court? Developers,
neighbors, 311 found a stick that you
know, if you want to get somebody, you
just make fake calls and they come cuz
they don't have to go for anonymous
complaints. And if they come to your
house, just for your knowledge to your
people, 311 comes call and says we're
here for anonymous complaint, don't let
them in. Whip out your constitution and
quote the fourth amendment. Even if your
house is on fire, you don't have to let
them in. Simple and plain, they can see
nice dude, they can whip out their
badge, they can threaten to give you a
stop work order, no problem. They're not
allowed in under the fourth amendment.
Even with your door wide open and when
they walk in, now even with a warrant,
you can stop them. How How with a
warrant?
>> Number one, they have to serve the
warrant to the police station. If they
don't serve it in a timely manner, you
can stop them. If they go back to the
police station, the date is wrong on the
warrant or they come the wrong date, the
warrant is ineffective and you could
tell the police to kiss your behind.
Simple thing, if you have them come, you
just call me. Most of the time you can
beat any of those stupid civil warrants.
A criminal warrant, you have a problem
because they come in force and they grab
you and there's nothing you could do to
stop it. But on a civil warrant, they
got to really push their way in and I've
stopped them so many times. I have one
building that has 1,100 calls on it. I
have inspect sometimes as a joke, just
for the fun of it, I let them in and I
make fun of them as because I don't let
them take the elevator. And I say, "You
can't take the elevator. You have to
walk up." And I make fun of them how fat
they are and they can't breathe.
>> can tell them they can't use the
elevator? Yeah, I'm not letting them use
it. You want to come into the building,
go walk. No, I'm using the elevators.
No, can't use the elevator. Elevator is
only for people you have to use the
service elevator. One of the guys says
to me, "What do you mean I have to use
the service entrance?" I said, "You're
black. You can't come in through the
front door."
It was a joke.
Hershey, you're out of control. Wait, we
forgot about our sponsors. Oh my god.
Sorry.
>> Pass me over some of that Schmerling
Does does does any of them sell
sandwiches because I'm hungry?
Pass me over some more. I need to show
you the variety. Can I have a chocolate?
>> Yankee, how long we in? Oh my god. No,
no, no, no. Let me get Let me get some
of that. I'll get the one with the nuts.
The white one with the nuts.
What's his name, Schmerling?
>> Schmerling. Schmerling. I love you,
Schmerling. There are There are no
Schmerlings in the world as delicious
and creamy as the Schmerling chocolates
right out of Europe. Gorgeous gorgeous
Switzerland Switzerland Europe You're
Switzerland is not in Europe? It is, but
Switzerland Switzerland is in
Europe. Kollel Yisrael, the best of
Schmerling in the world. Oh, gosh. And
when you sit by the Seder you eat those
chocolates, Chol HaMoed trips, you eat
those Schmerling chocolates, the most
delicious chocolate in the world.
Afikoman gifts mean Schmerling
chocolates. Oh, wow.
>> Just I can give a Afikoman chocolate
instead of like 500 bucks. Yes. And the
video game and that stupid other iPhone.
Yes. Oh, oh, Uncle Hershey, you want a
iPhone. No, I have a Schmerling
chocolate.
I got to Let me go and show you.
Hershey, did you Did you see the new
Haggadah?
Oh, wow. On the Pesach table, there's no
room for anything.
>> my 49th Seder by the way. Yeah, yeah. On
the Pesach table you have the kaira and
the wine and the bechers and the fish
and the meat and the chicken
and the salt water. Is there room for
another 20 and you said 50 people at
your Seder? Is there room for 50
Haggadahs?
How about the standing one? That only
takes up 25% of the standing of the
space.
And guess what? What? It has beautiful
art. It tells you where to drink the
wine, where to break the matzah, where
to make the haggadah, where to make the
mana shtana.
>> a question. Do they English, Hebrew.
You don't eat carrots. That's why you're
having problems with your eyes. That's
your fault, Ronnie.
I don't know. I
He's not really funny. You're the funny
one.
I want a Smurling chocolate. There's
nothing as beautiful as the Kahasha
Haggadah.
Put in Clappy in Kahasha's website, c l
a p p y for a 15% off. Wow. And look at
that gift box it comes in. Oh, I'm
broke. I could use the 15%.
>> me tell you something. Let me tell you
something. You don't have to clean for
your car for Pesach anymore because my
friends at Wheels 2 Lease
>> Oh. Saul at Wheels 2 Lease
>> Saul, I helped him with his house, too,
by the way. Ask him. Where? In the Five
Towns? No, no, over here in Brooklyn
when he was selling. Ah. Saul at Wheels
2 Lease or my friend Izzy Herman at
Wheels 2 Lease. When you call up Wheels
2 Lease
>> Yeah. You said to get rid of expediting?
Right. Let me tell you something. You've
never expedited like Wheels 2 Lease. You
call them up.
>> Yeah. You have a car in your driveway 2
hours later.
>> 2 HOURS?
>> 2 HOURS LATER, THERE'S A CAR IN YOUR
DRIVEWAY with title, insurance,
paperwork, DMV, DMZ, TMZ, whatever you
need.
>> Don't tell my wife.
>> Don't clean the car. $199 you can get a
car a month. It's like an overpriced
internet bill. And you can get a Pilot
for $399 a month, Honda Odyssey's for
$400,000 a month. Nobody knows how they
do it at Wheels 2 Lease. So, when you
need a car, call Wheels 2 Lease. If you
don't want to clean your car for Pesach,
just get a new car from Wheels 2 Lease.
Okay. Back to where we're holding.
>> Does it come with gas? Of course, full
tank. Hershey, is there any ask you
admire and say, "You know, what? This
guy's a real community guy." Give us
three people you admire in the Jewish
community
activists that you know you could call
or admire their work. Um really nobody,
but uh
uh I do like Simcha Eichenstein. Uh he I
see him every Shabbos and when I have
some serious issues with children and
health problems, he does help with that.
He makes the call or he he talks people
into it.
Talks people into what? He talks some of
these officials to help us with extra
insurances or letting babies move around
the fire
>> I didn't think you'd compliment a
politician in your entire life. He's
one. The rest are no good.
Number two.
>> All crooks.
I have a teacher for my eighth grade
class Who didn't throw you out?
who
I was tough and when I got to his class
I was giving him a hard time. It was in
the last in in the in best small and I
was going to teach him a lesson. I had
my own gang called the ball park boys
and we were tough kids and we were not
going to listen to him and I remember
coming into his class and he saw me
right away with my tough jacket and all
that.
We used to hang out by Amnon's Pizza and
he comes right over to me and I figured,
"Okay, teach. Ready? Who do you think is
going to win? I just have to kick your
butt and throw you on the floor."
And he says to me,
"We're not starting class till you and I
play a game of checkers."
I didn't know what the hell to say.
And we went over there and we played
checkers and every day the whole class
surrounded us and we had to play a game
of checkers. Took like 10 minutes.
And he spoke while he did the checkers
every day. Finally, I took off my jacket
one day and I started learning with him.
And
it made me a better student. And ninth
grade I screwed around a little bit but
I really knew my stuff and from the rest
of the way through high school I was
going to run away a few times to
Atlantic City and become a dealer and I
didn't run and I got my diploma and I
went to college and
thanks to him he's a lawyer today.
>> What's his name? Mr. Kagan.
Very nice man and I still tell people
about him. But you want politicians? Of
course I love that.
>> ask on him? Ask on him. Third.
There's so many really if you want to
talk about people that inspire me who
take care of
older people. I mean, just alone in our
ball park center
you saw popcorn. I mean, he's just he's
the head of it. He's just he's he's not
asking. He's he's holy. He He loves the
people. He gives them hugs.
>> Park Center. Yeah, and then you have
Mrs. Friedman, the children's lady. For
40 years, she goes from lady to lady,
hospital and nursing home. And when
they're sitting there never depressed,
she comes there and puts a tablecloth on
the table with a little candle, fake
candle. And gives them the the her own
cooked meals packaged professionally.
Every time I see her, I melt and I call
her sweetheart dollars. She says, "You
can't call me cuz you didn't show me
dollars."
I said, "I can do whatever I want, Mrs.
Friedman. You asked I'm an old man."
So, I mean, I you you you're getting me
off the top of my head. I have a lot of
heroes. Like?
>> of people that I look up to and that I
love. Spit it. Uh I don't know.
>> Cuz people look at you as a lone machine
and yelling, screaming. To hear that
you're a human and you have people who
who are good in in the good list. It's
very it's it's it's I I think for many
people.
>> met the Lubavitcher Rebbe? When I was in
third grade, uh they took me to uh 770.
And uh they were giving everybody
dollars. I didn't know what that meant,
you know, what Lubavitch. But I did know
there was a movie theater that had $2.
They needed $2. So, I asked the Rebbe,
"Can I have $2?"
And they just pushed me away. You didn't
get two? I got one. And uh my wife has a
few pictures and a few times she got
dollars. She was big time into
Lubavitch. I don't know why I married
her. You know, you people are nuts.
And uh so not only did I marry Israeli,
half Lubavitch, I'm screwed over across
the board, you know?
And um
you know, when my wife came home the
first time, she was wearing a mini
skirt.
And my mother wait right away in the
Hungarian word called her a bad word,
you know?
One of those words. And you know who
took care of my mother the last 7 years
of her life? That bad woman. That's
right. My mother always used to have a
problem with me, called Linda up. But uh
Linda's one of my inspirations.
>> How'd you meet her?
Her mother came up with her, you know,
these Jewish mothers. They came up to my
office to buy something to our ticket.
And by the way, after we sold it to
them, uh her mother comes over to me,
"We like you.
Call my daughter." I said, "Are you
crazy? She's a kid. She's 19 years old.
I'm 26. I'm not marrying no good little
kid."
"We like you. Call her." I said, "No."
And she left.
Next day,
Linda calls, "My mother said I have to
call you. You have to come pick me up."
I said,
"Really?" She's, "Please, just take me
to the airport." I said, "Okay." I took
her to the airport. We had a nice
conversation, and she was gone. Two
weeks later, she calls me back, "I'll
come pick me up."
So, that was theoretically our third
date. According to the rules, you have
to take her home to the mother.
>> It was the third.
>> But you didn't buy the ticket. Buying
the ticket was one. The ticket to the
airport was one.
>> you didn't meet. Who cares?
>> Okay. I had to take her to my mother.
>> He makes his own
>> with her, and I remember my mother and
the whole family when I went to these
family weddings, I really have 150 first
cousins getting married. Never "You're
an old boy. You're never going to
marry." One guy told me I'm gay. It was
like then the end, wedding to wedding,
you had to go to aunt and uncle telling
you, "Hershey, I don't understand.
You're fat. You're this. You're that."
It just didn't end.
So, like one time I took Linda home.
Her mother's looking up, called her a
bad name. I told everybody, "Look what
we got."
And then from somehow that girl figured
out how to trick me that I knew it was
desperate.
Three Sham buys tips
>> Hold on one second. Hold on. Hold on,
you forgot CH Butcher. Oh, CH Butcher?
>> CH Butcher. Advertising? You do not have
to go to Manhattan. If you want the
finest fleishig experience.
>> Steak? Steaks. Pastrami? Pastrami.
>> Corned beef, I'm good.
>> Corned beef, kebabs, fancy foods.
>> a big time hot dog man.
>> Hot dogs.
>> No way. CH Butcher on Troy Avenue. Maybe
we'll go for dinner after the show. Oh,
can I get a little sauerkraut?
>> Sauerkraut, mustard, everything.
>> coleslaw on mine. Coleslaw. CH Butcher.
But wait, it gets better.
>> Yo, wow.
>> The schaffrath CH butcher also own a
deli
on Albany.
I was never there.
CH butcher on on Albany. American beef.
>> American beef. They have the schaffrath
houses. It's the most delicious American
Angus beef. You cannot get more
scrumchy, tasty, delicious food than CH
butcher and deli.
>> I'm losing the weight, I can't really
eat so much. Tell but it's healthy. I
got you.
I agree with you.
>> CH butcher. Three Shimon Bais tips.
Number one,
uh make sure your wife has a lot of
money.
That's a joke.
Um
There's no and don't get angry with me
audience. There's no such thing as love.
Get it out of your head.
Uh of course you're going to have lust
in the beginning. She's pretty, she's
gorgeous,
uh whatever.
Figure out there's no such thing as
love, but love is somebody that will let
you come home every day. You can fight
with them. Me and my wife fight every
day. Gosh, help me. She makes me
miserable. But
every night we're in the same bed. Every
night we wake up in the morning, we
forget what's the day before. So we
could be a little angry or you lost the
fight or you fight about the children or
there's no money, but I want you to know
one thing. You come home every night.
You can be right, you can be wrong, but
the next morning you must forgive each
other. Tip number one. Tip number two
most importantly, every night you come
home, there is no excuses not to come
home. Never not to come You must come
home. I don't care how angry you are,
what you have to do not come home. And
finally most importantly is
just love her, but not really love her.
Love means to to respect her, even
though she's nuts and she's crazy and
she sucks all your money dry and she has
she's a terrible terrible cook and she
doesn't even know how to make a laundry
correctly.
Just tell her okay.
Do it. I do the laundry in my house.
Help her.
Pesach comes, I take care of it. You've
got to share the duties. Don't you
understand? She's a Jewish mother. She
had your children. When they go through
a We don't do body changes, you know,
even though you have a bunch of
politicians that say there are six six
different sexes today. You know, you can
be a man, a woman, a dog. I'm looking to
be a cat. Identify as a cat. I think
it's very cool to be a cat. I wear a
black suit, black cat. Anyways, clapping
is not funny.
So, again,
they do go through a body change when
they become mothers. They do have
something that affects them. So, you
have to understand this is not something
that Of course, they become business
women, they're geniuses, they're
beautiful, they're bright, but they do
change. Their body changes and when your
body changes, you have to understand it.
Sometimes you get angry, pick yourself
up and go for a cigarette, which my wife
doesn't let me smoke. I hate her. I She
makes me miserable. Why am I with her 37
years? Wow.
You know, I
Has she Did she ever ask us She said,
"Come on, this show is
making me miserable."
>> Has she Did she ever ask you not to run
for another political campaign? No. She
lets you run for all the campaigns?
>> about Linda is and and again, and I I
accept her because she took care of her
mother, is we don't interfere with each
other's lives. We know we have the same
life. We know we have the same kitchen.
Too bad I let her in. Terrible. She
makes a mess. She has no idea what hot
dogs are. She doesn't even know how to
cut the hot dog in the middle. And
what's that butcher name? CH Butcher?
>> CH Butcher. Can I send them there? Maybe
she's going to learn something. My
mother was the worst cook. Terrible. I'm
missing two teeth.
>> Don't you think you need to bring in a
marriage counselor?
>> Oh, no. So, again, she puts up You put
up with them. You know, you don't like
the way she brushes her teeth, too bad.
You know, you don't like the way she
goes to the bathroom, close the door.
You know, you know, just you are married
forever. Like, teach that to my
children. You never touch a woman. You
get angry, curse, scream, holler, but
then it's over, man. I fight with Linda
every day, really. We fight about their
kids, the politics, the money. She's
never stopped me from doing whatever it
is, and I've never stopped her, except
when she goes shopping at that stupid
Macy's and Bloomingdale's. She's crazy
paying double the price when I can get
half price over here in Borough Park and
Flatbush and Crown Heights. But,
I'm a loser, you know. She spends all
the money. What should I tell you?
Actually, what's the most effective way
to navigate government and politicians?
Uh
Three tips.
Number one, the second they open their
mouth, it's a lie. Everything I swear,
really. As they speak to you, know that
whatever they said is the opposite. It's
a lie. They're never going to help you.
They're never going to guide you.
>> you get things done? So, again, you got
to keep calling. You got to be on top of
it. You got to find friends who support
them, who call them. You think you're
going to call the senator, the
councilman, he's going to pick up the
phone and do anything for you? The
answer is zero, zero, zero. So, people
call me to call the assemblyman and
councilman because I do them favors. And
when their some of their constituents
are in trouble, they call me to help
them. So, it's all a favorable game.
Everybody that's city council, you know
that each of our council members, you
think are poor.
So, you know how much their salary is
really, Nebuchadnezzar? 190? 180,000.
190,000. Not a lot of money.
They get an additional $30,000 for each
committee they sit on. They sit on a
minimum of seven committees. Now, you
tell me how a man can sit on seven
committees, run an 8-hour job. I know I
I'm working hard. I don't make that kind
of money. You get better. They get $67 a
day stipend. If you're a chairman of a
committee, you get another $10,000. Now,
if you are head of a caucus, which means
there are two Jews, so the one of them
is the head of the caucus, so he gets 10
tickets to go to Israel and spend money.
They get $10 million in discretionary
funds. That means they can give it out
not to anybody they want, to any charity
or a they want that does good. That
gives them a good kickback. I don't know
what they give them. I'm not allowed to.
So, those are the people they reward who
give them jobs.
>> they can raise money and keep that money
for the whole during their No, right.
Their money that they raise. So, when
they give you your little
discretionary fund money, that's why it
goes not to you. If you ask them for it,
they won't. Your children are stuck in
Israel right now. Who do you think
people are calling to get their kids
home? Us. Your councilman, your
assemblyman, your your congressman? None
of them. I wish you know what? I will
give you, Clappy, $100 and I'll buy
seven or how many packages How many hot
dogs come in one of those CHBA hot dogs?
I think eight. I'll buy you a whole
package of hot dogs if you can get
through to my assemblyman
I don't even care his name, Kalman
Yeger, or my councilman Simcha Felder,
if you can get through on the phone to
them before 30 calls each.
Can I I want to ask you a question.
>> William, I want to ask you a question.
On me, on me.
>> People talk People talk All of you, any
of you get through on 30 calls or less.
Has she People talk about major things,
zoning and H8
>> do anything.
>> No, no, no, no. I want I want to get the
I want to get the question. The
regularity that destroys my life
and my parents' life and they're getting
older to 120 in taxes and deposits and
my wife with a bunch of young kids.
There's one thing in New York City that
is destroying our lives that has to end
today, not even tomorrow morning, and
that is this alternate side street
parking.
>> I agree. On my block,
a narrow narrow block in Brooklyn, But I
gave the solution.
>> Wait, Wait, okay. Wait, I gave the
solution
to that.
>> But wait, I'm not finished. They claim,
in the name of cleaning the streets, the
truck doesn't come 50% of the time and
when it does come, the guy's watching
Netflix on his screen and zigzagging. I
see it blowing garbage from one side of
the street to the other side of the
street.
>> a solution. How do we end alternate side
street parking today? I came up with a
solution and I wrote a five-point plan
to it. There's a special device Right
now, when I have workers going out to
certain jobs, we have
we we we track them. How long you're on
the job site, how much we're billing
for. Remember, we bill serious money for
our times. We have messengers, couriers,
FedExes. We all know where our people
are. You put a tracker on one of these
things. You know one thing. You have to
keep track on the day that they're
cleaning your sidewalk when the cleaning
vehicle comes to your block. That
particular few minutes, you have to get
in your car and move it. If not, you
will get double the fine or towed.
Otherwise, you don't have to move your
car for more than 10 minutes.
Okay? That's number one. Most
importantly, just move when the guy
comes and if he doesn't come that day,
you're going to say, "Actually, it
doesn't work." You ever take a city bus
today or train? You can track when
they're coming. Went to walk outside.
You can't track a stupid cleaning truck
when he's cleaning your sidewalk for 7
seconds? And this way he gets to clean
it quicker. And you don't have to But
you used the word cleaning. They don't
clean. Those trucks do not clean. When
they ride by, they don't get blows
garbage from one side to the other.
Yeah, these new machines that know how
to clean better. And if you invest your
money correctly, that's what I'm telling
you.
>> I heard that's very much union
controlled and they don't want to take
off days that people could clean the
streets cuz the sanitation is a union
block vote. So the politicians don't
want to mess with this alternate side.
Are you familiar with that? Well,
correct. And remember, we had a special
garbage truck assigned to us in Borough
Park to clean only for Yeshiva pickups.
You know, the garbage that comes out of
Yeshivas is a lot. So we got one truck
and we got a million dollars. This is
about 7 years ago just to pick up for
the Yeshivas.
Our councilman got upset with them
and said that
they had to do something stupid. So they
fought with the councilman and said,
"Now we want you to use
I forgot what it is when you when you
recycle." There was the recycling the
bottles and stuff and then the new
recycling
>> Compost. Compost. So they said, "Just
because you're acting like an idiot, we
want you to do compost." And he said,
"We're not going to do it." And we all
agreed not to do it. But he was just
being mean because he was changing the
hours. He was fighting with the with the
with for no reason with the with the
chief. He's just an incompetent. Heshy,
what are you trying to get to?
Heshy, what are you trying to get to?
They took away his truck from They took
away our truck because the sanitation
people are so powerful. Now, they have a
big Now, we have a problem in my
neighborhood, I don't know about yours.
We have 4,000 buses that park on the
street.
That's almost 8,000 or 9,000 parking
spots you're taking away from our people
at night.
Now, you write is about I think what
they're telling me now about 1,500 buses
park on private Yeshiva back lots and so
on. So, still we're losing approximately
4 to 5,000 spots.
>> You should make it illegal. We so No.
No. No. No.
There's a big sanitation lot that is
barely used in my neighborhood. I've
been trying to take it, but they want to
give it away with the train station for
to to build a $20 billion or $10 billion
uh uh uh uh Brooklyn to Queens. condo
center, whatever, and they all these
rich Yeshivas are going to get money. No
problem. I want to make it into a um
municipal lot.
Nobody's allowed to park during the day
from 12th Avenue all the way till Avenue
J. That's it. Simple. All those 10 15
blocks because if you have to drive from
39th Street to 60th Street in the middle
of the day takes you 45 minutes. Really.
To go eight blocks, to drive across
block park it take an hour. And and even
when you pick up your mother or kid in
the rain, it's terrible. Nobody's
allowed to park anymore from 7:00 a.m.
to 7:00 p.m. Now, pay attention. Go park
in my lot. It's free of parking.
There are going to be buses that are
running up and down that will take you
every 5 minutes up and down. No bends.
Wait a minute.
At night time
all the buses get to park free over
there.
Now, you're taking off 40 1,500 parks
and buses a night. Go park on the
street. Now, you're going to say,
"Heshy, how do I pick up my mother? I
got my lugg- I I shopping. I'm not going
to schlepp everything on a bus. Nobody's
telling you that. Leave your stuff there
or leave your mother there. Since
there's no traffic, go fetch your your
car, come back and pick her up.
>> Hasidic you going to win your next
election?
>> trucks double park and triple park?
Now you can park right there. Let them
unload and go. There's no more blocking.
>> Unloading, unloading. That's it. Stop
parking. Hasidic you going to win your
next election or is it going to be your
next uh film?
>> So, I am pretty professional this time.
I have a good campaign manager. I have a
good uh people that collecting money.
We're collecting our signatures. I have
a pretty good team behind me. I think I
have the advertising campaign pretty
much set.
>> to buy some ads on our show?
>> advertise. I don't have enough to
>> Hasidic you going to buy some ads on our
show or
Uh do you advert- Yeah, why not? Thank
you. I have a good I don't know, at
least 8 to 10 to 20 bucks a show.
>> you the day of the election, Hasidic The
day of the election, we're not going to
take money from you and give it to
>> Cuz you can call your friend next to you
who does all that trip. You know, I was
friends with Rabbi Wallerstein. He's a
cousin of mine.
>> Oh, I saw you. And he just had a
grandson that was named after him and
his wife is my cousin.
I had to give him a man, but I used to
fight with him.
Because he used to take in little girls
and give them a second chance. But you
know, young girls sometimes mess up
again. We have 80 girls on the street in
my neighborhood. I have boys smoking
pot. What do you think happens to them?
Some of these older people take
advantage of them and do things to them
and I can't save all of them. Sometimes
I try. Rabbi Wallerstein did help me
many times, but if they mess up once, he
throws them back out. I used to scream
at him, "Zakharya, I know you for 40
years. You can't do it." He says,
"Hasidic, if I do it for one, I do it
for the other." I said, "I know, but
they're Jewish girls. I can't put them
back on the street. They're getting
abused. They're going to parties.
They're sleeping with men so they can
have a place and shower just to sleep on
the weekends. During the week, these men
throw them on the street. And these boys
are doing the same thing to boys.
They're doing it to my boys.
So, on the matter of Hasidic Hasidic,
you're saying
Sometimes you have to give up and I'm
getting tired. So, that's why I continue
doing what I do is sometimes my
reputation, even though I lose
elections, is good enough to scare the
people, good enough to scare the
>> So, let's end off watch
>> So, one second. By you, even if you
don't win, but by you being a loud voice
of reason, you keep the politicians in
check.
>> know I know who to talk to. They know
who I know how to shut up.
>> victorious automatically.
>> of their secrets. A lot of secrets that
go on. So, yeah, that's
That's why the government sometimes
comes to me and threatens me or calls me
or they come to my house.
I laugh at them. I remember when the
when De Blasio was running,
the two cops came to me on Shabbos
telling me, "We know you threatened the
mayor." I said, "I did not threaten the
mayor. I threatened to take a chicken,
call it De Blasio, and stick it up my
behind."
So, then they started when they came up
to me, they started asking me questions
about other people in the neighborhood.
I said, "Get out." I said, "You came
here for one thing and now for the
other."
Hasidic, please end off watch.
Watch my show Wednesday night just
enough, Hasidic. And after you're tired,
Hasidic, come Thursday to Clappy and
Frank show. Come to the Clappy and Frank
show. Hello, Clappy. You promised me a
sandwich.
Can I at least get a free chocolate? The
only Of course. You know who else he's
going to talk about the sandwich the
whole show? Daddy. He'll have a show.
Daddy used to get up on concerts. He
used to talk about sandwiches the whole
night.
>> a sandwich from
CBH
chocolate, Daddy, whatever it is.
Okay. Just on record, we didn't promise
him anything. I know you didn't. But we
did compliment how great he looks, how
he lost 200 lbs. 150. 150. And we don't
want to be the cause for him to beg go
back to 200 sandwich. We're not going to
start. I'll tell you how I lost the
weight, right? Yeah. Needles. No, no,
no. I was watching television. It
interrupted me. And I saw a Zempic. And
it said, "Lose 20 lbs." And I couldn't
lose weight for nothing. So, I went to
my doctor who has a lot of violations in
his building. I said to him, "I want a
Zempic." He said, "You can't have a
Zempic. You're not diabetic." I said,
"Well, I can lose 20 lbs." I said, "Will
it hurt me?" He says, "No, but I want
it." He says, "You can't get it." I
said, "I'll pay for it." He gave me a
little 20 pounds. Couldn't believe it. I
took it again, I lost more. I was down
150 pounds.
>> Oh, you're ahead of the curve. You're
always ahead of the curve.
>> I was and then people started taking it.
>> He put Ozempic on the market. I I
started spreading the word in Boca Park,
yeah.
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And uh And a kosher for Pesach. Kosher
for Pesach.
>> By the way And if you have nowhere to
go, send me an email.
Has she said this is the fanciest studio
he's ever been to? And it's right there.
But you didn't give me any water.
Oh, you did. Oh, I thought it was so. I
wanted to lick it, really, you know.
He's looking for things to I know. I
know. He's looking. So, I want them to
watch my show. That's yours. Yo, YWN,
you heard that I had your back. I'm just
letting you know. Don't call me with
dinus. Oh, please, you. The free lunch
is paying off, Bobby. The free lunch is
paying off.
I hate you. I hate you. You're saying
that lunch was shakah. I don't know.
You're You're defending. He's a nice
guy.
You know
All right, boys and girls. Thank you so
much.