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#Herzl100 Featured with David Matlow on JM in the AM
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Nachum Segal welcomed Herzl aficionado David Matlow back to JM in the AM to discuss "#herzl100," David's social media countdown series featuring the 100 greatest items from his vast collection of Herzl memorabilia, the largest private collection in the world. Nachum and David discussed the importance of educating about Zionism, Herzl's impact on combating anti-Semitism, the value of historical artifacts and more.
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And this is America's one and only
Jewish moments in the morning radio
program heard on listeners sponsored
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and the single network and of course the
beloved NSN app. David Matlau is with us
live via telephone.
He has started a brand new series
available to all around the world. We'll
explain in a moment. He is of course the
world's expert and most amazing
collector of an incredible collection of
Herzel items. Theodore Herzel. If you're
not familiar with Theodore Herzel,
Google him, read up on him.
um the person who dreamed
of a state of Israel
and never lived to see it. But uh of
course
his remains are on her Herzel next to
the remains of those of our beloved
soldiers who have uh given their lives
to defend the state, the land, the
nation, the people of Israel, both in
Israel and frankly around the world as
well. David Matlau, a pleasure to
welcome you back to JM and the AM.
>> Thank you very much. Good morning. It's
great to be back.
>> Appreciate that. I would hope that as
you make your way around the different
schools and synagogues and
organizations, you don't find too many
people who haven't heard of Theodore
Herzel. It makes your job even more
challenging, doesn't it?
>> Well, it does. People know the man with
the beard, the man on the balcony. uh
but don't really know all that he did.
They may know that he was the visionary
of the state of Israel uh but they would
have no idea of the history uh that that
ensued as a result of his work that led
to the creation of the state a short 44
years after he passed away. And um
I I don't know. I mean, we haven't
discussed every item in your collection.
That would be impossible. But just
remind us how many items there are in
the David Matlau Herzel collection.
>> I have over 6,000 items.
Frankly, I've lost I've lost count, but
I can tell by the number of of FedEx
delivery couriers that come to my house,
there's probably more than 6,000 by now.
What have you gotten recent? I know we
have a lot to talk about your new series
and more. We'll get to everything. What
have you gotten recently? Like you just
said, FedEx. In the last week, has
anything arrived at your home/herzel
museum of note?
>> Well, not in in the last week because I
started a different series, not the one
that we'll talk about today called
Herzel Break. And I put that on the
summer hiatus because I'm focusing on
the Herzel 100. But in the Herzel break,
just like in the opening of of baseball
card packages that are found, I open a
new package of Herzel items. So there's
about 10 of them sitting in my home that
I'm waiting when for when I resume the
season in the fall.
>> And give me an example of something you
opened during a Herzel break recently.
Is there one that stood out to you?
I I purchased this large sculpture. It's
probably 2 feet tall. It's over 100
years old. It's a wooden sculpture of
Herzel. And he's holding the hand of an
elderly Jewish man. And there's a
debate. Is that Moses or is that an
elderly Jewish man? He's holding his
hand and they're walking forward and
Herzel is leading this person to Eritz
Israel. It's it's um as I said hundred
years old wooden sculpture and I I find
it quite quite striking and beautiful
and that came in a big box.
>> Do you know do you know who the sculptor
is
>> there? There is a debate about who the
sculpture is and I um the current
thinking is I believe the man's name is
Kand Kandeski. He was an artist who
lived in Israel.
>> Wow.
>> Um a woodworker. Uh 90 seconds into our
conversation with David Matloward. We're
already fascinated to say the least.
He's got the world's largest collection
of Herzel items. I've seen it up close
and personal. It is amazing. And I
remind the audience that David did all
of us a favor by bringing an exhibit to
New York. You may recall he brought an
exhibit to New York. And he has exhibits
that are traveling exhibits that he
could bring to different schools,
organizations, etc. And I do want to
recommend to everybody, we have a lot of
principles and faculty members uh who
are listening to this broadcast. They do
so every single day. And now during the
summer months, you're thinking about who
to bring to your school to make special
days regarding Israel even more special
or just in general to bring a special
guest with some amazing artifacts. If
you want to get in touch with David
Matlau, you make sure uh to let us know
and we'll make sure to put that together
because they're just it's just too much
valuable information, too many amazing
things that he has that really need to
be seen uh by people who are both young
and older. All right, so you alluded to
the fact that you've got a brand new
series. Explain to everybody how they
could access this and what it's all
about.
>> The the new series called the Herzel
100. So it's # Herzel and the number
100. And what I am doing is I am showing
the hundred greatest artifacts in my
collection. It's almost a virtual
exhibit. So if you can't get the exhibit
to your town and if you're a principal
or a teacher, you can see by the time
the series is complete, which will be
right before Rashashana, you will have
see 100 items in my collection explained
by me in vignettes that are available on
Tik Tok,
Instagram, and Facebook. So I'm counting
down from number 100 to the greatest
Helil artifact in my collection. I say
it's the greatest Herzel artifact of all
time. I'm onethird of the way through. I
started on June 6. So today I posted
number 67. Recall I'm counting down by
100. And each one is a a one or twom
minute video of me explaining the item
and why it's important and how it fits
in to Herzel's story of seeing a problem
anti-semitism worrying about the future
of the Jewish people and the essentially
the building blocks of what he did to
start the Zionist movement inspire
people to to follow him and ultimately
led to the state. So there's artifacts
about the Zionist congresses. There's
his book um the Jewish state which was
number 92. Believe it or not, when I
posted the Jewish state is 92, someone
wrote me to say how could there be 91
more important items than that.
>> I
stay stay tuned for that. So, one
second. And all they have to do is
search either your name or Herzel 100 on
all those social media outlets.
>> Correct. And it it's also on X and
threads. Yes. If you search Herzel 100
or you search my name, David Matlo on
Instagram or Facebook. On Tik Tok, it's
Mar Davidid. M A R D A Ve D. Um if you
search that you will see one and through
that you can see all of them there. They
don't disappear. So there's 34 online
now and I post them uh late in the day.
So for instance number 66 I don't want
to ruin the surprise but that's going to
be posted uh later today and this will
follow all through the summer.
>> All right. to those who would like to
see or will see uh at some point today
your most recent video uh number 67 has
a special distinction that you're on on
the day that 67 was released. So let us
know what is it that number 67 is in
terms of the top 100 herzel artifacts.
>> So the number 67 which is um online
right now is a Russian
hatika. So, not that Hatifa isn't in
Russian, but it was actually printed in
Odessa in the early 1900s. It has a
picture of Herzel on it, and it includes
all nine verses of the Hatikva in
Russian.
>> Two verses of the Hatikva, but there are
nine,
>> right? In Russian.
>> It's a it's an Hebrew with Russian
translation.
>> Ah, got it. Wow. So, the first of all,
so look at this. Every time you do
anything having to do with Herzel, you
teach us something. Uh we all know there
are two verses to our tikvah but you say
no there's actually nine and the first
two have been designated as the uh
national anthem of the state of Israel.
>> Correct. And I'm also trying through the
series to
educate people. I dare say that your
listeners do not need an education of
what Zionism is. But when I launch this
out into the world, anybody can see it
and either e even those who are Israel's
detractors and I can tell there are many
out there by the comments that I receive
to explain to them what the idea was
that Herzel had the right of the Jewish
people to live freely and safely in our
ancestral homeland. It's as simple as
that. And the media and our haters would
suggest it's something much more
malevolent than that. It isn't. So
through these items I explain what
Herzel's vision was. And um for instance
for for the 4th of July I uh your 250th
birthday I posted a postcard from 1910
with the US flag and the Zionist flag
later the flag of the state of Israel
which and that got a quite a good
reception and and was shared quite
broadly because of the festivities of
the birthday. America's birthday. But it
also explains that the the alignment of
interest between the United States and
Zionism and later Israel, uh, which
continues to to this day gets sometimes
it's rockier than other times, but about
the desire for freedom, a more perfect
union, a better to purs to pursue
liberty, to be an example to the world.
Those kind of things are are not just
nonsense that that people say it. It's
based on the building blocks of Zionism
from more than a hundred years ago. And
these items show that.
>> And and sadly, you can confirm, and I'm
just reiterating what you said, but I
just want to make sure people heard it.
You can confirm that there are plenty of
people who have a lot to say, negative
things to say about Zionism, negative
things, negative comments. I'm I'm sure
very hateful comments because that's the
way social media works whenever you post
anything. So you can you can confirm
that we're in another period of time, an
extended and what seems to be continuous
period of time of anti-semitism. And
number one, I remind everybody that
you're in Canada and not that you're any
different than what's going on in the
United States, but there are cities in
Canada that are getting a lot of
attention when it comes to anti-semitic
episodes, etc. And the second thing I
would say is that how many times David
Matlo do you do you think as you're as
you're posting and as you hear about
anti-semitic incidents and you see all
these comments that are coming through
on social media, how often do you think
about how Herzel was affected by all
this? how a major anti-semitic episode
spurred him on uh to uh to dream about
and to put into practical purpose um a a
an action uh that would eventually lead
to the state of Israel. I'm sure that
whole anti-semitism piece comes to your
mind a lot.
>> I think about it all the time. the the
Drifus trial that took place in in 1894
with a Jewish officer in the French army
that was wrongfully charged and then
convicted of treason spying for Germany.
This is what um really sparked Herzel to
do something about anti-semitism. he
wrote his book the UN staff the Jewish
state number 91
the list um to as a solution to
anti-semitism and I think about that
um for us in Toronto
not they're dissimilar to how Parisian
Jews must have felt when an event
happened in their case Drifus in our
case October 7th and anti-semitism which
we thought was in the dust bins of
history was clearly percolating under
the surface and came back. But Herzel
teaches us that we can do something
about it. That we are not saddled with
the conditions in which we find
ourselves. And this comes up a lot in in
the Herzel 100. It's not simply about
noting something and fetching about it
and whining about it and hoping it will
be better. We can do something about it,
whatever that might be. And it's clear
from from the the series that Birch was
a journalist and a playwright um and a
lawyer and he threw all those skills at
trying to solve for anti-semitism. He
was a guy. He was a person just like us.
He was not some superhuman. So all of us
can have uh the capacity to make a
little bit of a difference and not just
resign ourselves to the trouble. Whether
it's in our home community, it's in
Israel, in in the world, we have the
power to change it.
>> Yeah, excellent point. I I got to say it
again to the to the principles, to the
educators, to the faculty members. David
Matlo has done a lot of the work for
you. Uh school year begins in September.
you're looking for projects that have to
do with Israel, Zionism, especially
during these times. Uh he's outlined on
social media all these items. Uh you
literally could have um uh students in a
class just, you know, write about some
of the items, explore them, research
them, put together their own lists,
etc., etc. And I highly recommend you do
it. Search Herzel 100
on all all the social media sites. And
of course, David Matlau, you can search
his name, Mat L, and get to all of this
uh and get a real education when it
comes to the history of Zionism. Uh, and
now my fun question, of course, uh,
David, is um, will will we find the
Herzel socks? Will we find the Herzel
socks among the top 100?
Well, I had a debate about whether socks
should be included and um of course it's
my own list of a hundred and frankly I
have so many that I wanted to use the um
the series to to educate and as
interesting and as fun as the virtual
socks are it would be a lost opportunity
to share something more uh meaningful So
Theo the Herzel mascot will show up. So
there's uh
>> and I think the bobblehead is on the
list. There's a Herzel bobblehead and
and and I didn't want to put socks in
because I had run out of them. I had
made 5,000 and they lasted me to hand
out to people to help share the story.
The idea of the socks is you look at the
socks and there's Herzel.
>> You don't have people would say, "Well,
who's Herzel?"
>> You don't have an extra Herzel
bobblehead, do you?
I'll have to look through my inventory.
Did um you're missing one?
>> No, I'm not. I never got one, but I
would love to have that. You've given us
some amazing Herzel items. The
bobblehead I'd love to have. That'd be
so cool.
>> I will look for one for you. That that
that is on our list. So, if people have
no idea what we're talking about,
they're going to have to uh wait. Um
it's coming up probably in a month and a
half.
>> Wow. It got that high in the list.
Bobbleheads have a way of doing that,
huh? They are real collectibles.
Absolutely. They they get People love
bobbleheads. They really do. They get
very, very high on the list. And what
was the hockey thing? Was there a puck
or a jersey? What was it that was hockey
related with Herzel that you had?
>> And yeah, that was number 99. A puck
from the from the Herzel Cup. Um, and it
and it was really an example of how
Herzel's name and likeness and his
vision appears on so many different
things. In this case, a hockey puck. He
didn't know about hockey. And I say that
in Canada, if you want to get someone's
attention, connect it to hockey somehow.
>> Oh, good point. Good point.
>> It's the national pastime up north.
>> So, that's the way that's the way to
really get people to focus on it. What a
delight to speak to you as always.
Everyone check out Herzel 100 online on
all the social media uh outlets. Herzel
100, literally the the number 100 online
or just search David Matlau M-at L as
the series continues. A great
opportunity during the summer uh to
really brush up on all things Zionist.
And David Matlau, a pleasure to speak to
you again and big, it's a great series.
You're always coming up with something
original and we love following you.
>> Thank you so much. # Herzel 100. Really
appreciate you help spreading the word.
>> Oh, a pleasure. Hashertzel 100
everybody. Oh, maybe Rammy will put
today's uh today's video uh number 67.
Maybe he'll put that in our newsletter
as well. That'd be great. Um but yes,
yes, Herzel 100. More coming up. You're
listening to a Monday morning edition.
JM in the A.M.