How to Choose the Right Yeshiva - Mesivta Ramat Beit Shemesh

this tour class is brought to you by torahanytime.com everyone thanks for coming out tonight I want to thank our dear friends and hosts for hello melts for uh making this weekend possible uh won't be my very our hosts should continue in his special avoida he helps out many things in the community and Beyond and needs to be able to continue in good health in his humble way I'll be asked I also want to thank Alicia also who's very instrumental in making tonight's event possible so the the objective of the malava malka I understand is uh we have a lot of here they're in 12th grade and it's a very uh important year of transition where they're now I'm from America so I don't know exactly the different madrigos but basically you're going from one madrega from high school to uh the next level some type of basement and the topic on everyone's mind in America we say the elephant in the room is you know where are we going next year so I I'm not familiar with the Israeli scene and the various yeshivas but maybe we'll speak about some of the factors to bear in mind when making this very important decision um there's the first thing I want to share with you is just a simple plastic and Hamish at the end of passion so yakovinu was just chased after by his father-in-law it could happen his father was chasing after him and the following wanted to kill him you know nice no and uh I I have a wonderful father what where's your family he didn't tell me to speak about this and his daughter as a hug and a kiss and he kisses his grandchildren and yaakov is off Off to the Races the public says and he encounters the Angels so now she says what are these angels well she says these were special angels because yaakov is now leaving he's uh he's coming to Earth Israel we know there are two types of malachim they're Malachi Israel and when you're in you have you know American Angels so the Anaheim Angels they call them the angel you know the just joking okay you have the you have uh angels and the narrative soil you have errats Israel Deke Angels right and jacobino is transitioning from Israel so the angels of Earth Israel the Angels leave and the angels of Earth Israel come that's what Rashi says comes the marao maral asks a simple question yaakov is nowhere near eres Israel he's not even close to Earth Israel he still is about to fight with the Malachi in the beginning of Islam fights him when he crosses to go through Amon and moyoff he's a few hundred miles away from Earth Israel why are the Angels of Earth's Israel coming now that's tomorrow's kashan rash in the gorarie says the gorarie in Yiddish kite we don't care about where you are we only care about one thing where are you going where are you headed until now was in and he just changed directions headed toward Israel and the moment you turn your head and head toward that's where you are you are not where you are you are where you're going that's an important thing always to bear in mind that the Devonshire looks at us what are our plans what are our goals what our aspirations the moment Jacob headed towards Israel he's already considered as if he's an artist Israel it's interesting you know in halacha the moment that Dawn cracks and it's pitch black outside it's called and it's day and you could be mikaim all Mitzvah so at least and the moment the sun drops even though it's bright outside it's night already and the mission Bruce says you can't even start minha if you're going to be finishing after the skia isn't it interesting that it's pitch black outside and it's halachly day or it's light outside and it's halachly night and the answer is we don't care what something is we care about where it's headed the moment Dawn cracks it's headed toward light even though it's dark it's day the moment the sun begins to fall even though it's light it's nighttime that's the way we look at things so that's something important to bear in mind whatever wherever we are now the first thing we have to establish is where are we headed where do we want to go what are our goals sometimes you want to choose a school you have to be ready for it it has to be something appropriate for you but it doesn't have to be where you are today it has to be something that's appropriate for what your goals are I want to share with you a few ideas about learning in general and you know I'm not such an old guy but I I was an issue I spent many years in Yeshiva Yeshiva about 30 years the time I was a young bucker until maybe a few months ago I spent most the first part of first aid and second seder and Yeshiva and preparing Shira and I'll tell you a little secret who is successful in Yeshiva you know when you're young you think who's going to be successful it's going to be the smartest kid in the class that's what we naturally think and it's for sure not always or even usually the case the people who are the most successful in Yeshiva have a number of intangible ingredients doesn't mean they're the smartest often not and it's these intangible ingredients that give them doesn't mean you're going to become a rashiva or you can become a big Rob means that learning and and uh and rookness is a very important part of your life whatever you choose to do Yeshiva means that whatever you gain in the Yeshiva and the learning you do in Yeshiva becomes meaningful to you so that the rest of your life learning is something that's a very important part of your life so I'll share with you a few ingredients that help a person be successful in learning and when you hear about it you say whoa learning is very different than anything else learning is different than I know a massive that they have secular subjects also right what are you doing you have science you have science you have math learning is different than science learning is different in math you know who the best in the in the class in math will be without exception the smartest kid whoever's the smartest will be the best in math whoever's the smartest will be the best in science but it is not true and it will never be true that the ones who are most successful in learning will be the smartest so I'll give you a few ingredients I'm going to say over a mission Perkins everybody knows the mishnah and we're going to ask a simple question from Cena that makes no sense there is a man named Sinai and he grew arms and he handed Moshe the Torah Moshe kibal Torah from Sinai he didn't accept her from Cena except the Torah foreign so there's a Texas the letter mem could sometimes be causative mem could mean because of accepted because of harcina because of something he learned from her Sinai because of a lesson that he learned from harsinai what lesson did Moshe have been learn from arsinai the lesson of humility it was the most humble of all the mountains the camera says in tightness why is Torah compared to water because water always goes to the lowest point so too Tyra always goes to the most humble say what what does Tara have to do with humility well the most humble person in the class be the best in math it has no correlation there's no correlation between humility and learning mathematics there's no correlation between humility and science but in the long run those who are humble will be successful in learning why because someone who's about Guyver oh good morning says this yeah yeah I got it I got it I don't need to ask my rubby I don't need to ask my khabrusa my Ruby said something yeah I think I understand it yeah yeah a guy like me I understand it somebody who is yeah yeah I'll remember this I'll remember this I'll remember this and those people are not successful because they don't have the humility to go over to the Webby and say you know what Robbie I didn't really understand what you said could you could you explain it again you know what I didn't really understand what the you could hear or share and you can miss the point and if you have geitha you're not going to go over to harus and say no I didn't really understand what the rebbe said could you explain it to me I missed something or if you're a bad guy if you're gonna say I already Hazard it twice I'll probably remember it humility is the key ingredient to being successful in learning arrives that to learn Torah you have to be receptacle now the thicker the clear is the less space of receptivity the Klee has so less of an ego you have the less of a bald Guyver you are the more room there is in you to fill yourself up with Tyra this is very important to bear in mind you know somebody is is preparing for a newsman and they think about all the things they need to do one important thing to do is to work on humility sometimes you hear a share and you're you don't want to go over to the web you don't want to admit you didn't understand you want you don't want to ask someone else in the class you don't want to admit you didn't understand you don't want to review it again you don't want to admit humility is a very important ingredient in learning and what we're learning is the ingredients of being successful in Tyra are Supernatural they're not intuitive because learning is not mathematics for learning you need one thing which is the most important ingredient and that is and there's certain ways of accessing and one of them is humility I'll give you another important idea ready for this we live in the in um the age where there's a lot of learning you go to the show Friday night I was amazed in America you don't have this last night went to the shul there are I don't know 100 people learning or something Friday night something like that a lot of people learning and there's that fioni everybody's learning everyone's learning and everyone's Hashem there's a big tire out there and a lot of people are learning it but it says you have to make for yourself a rubby now why do you have to make yourself for rubby what do you need a rubbie for there's art school gamoras yeah in America the art scroll in Israel what is called mahadurat schatenstein what are they called you don't need a red B you could just uh take out there's a sifta gamaras and you could just read anything even every single toast you know our school came out now with art scrot Isis so you could get every penny Joshua martial in English so listen to this my experience is that people who only learn on them by themselves and in the end don't really have a Revy to connect with the learning is not as deeply ingrained in their blood you see it's not enough for the tar to be in your head math it only has to be in your head science it only has to be in your head but the Torah has to be more than in your head it has to be in your heart so how do you get the Torah in your heart it's not enough to read Maduras schatenstein as much as I love Arts girl I love art school is a best publishing company in the world but you have to have a rabbi why Rabino writes a person will remember something that he learned from Arabi more than if he learned it himself and I think part of that means it will go into your heart more when you learn from Arabi than if you learn yourself say why is that true because we're not robots we're human beings and human beings are affected by other human beings they're not affected by black and white you could read black and white and it will go into your mind and of course it will influence you but when you learn from a remedy that you respect it enters you on a deeper level so this is a very important thing to think about when you're going to Yeshiva should I go to that big Yeshiva that after four and a half years I'll speak to the rebbies gabai and Jose come back to the rebbe and ask him a question in a year and a half and then the rebbe will say yes come back in three years you can't go there sorry you need to have a place that you have someone that you're comfortable with learning from they have relationship with it's a very important factor to ultimately in the long term be successful in learning that learning is important to you you have to have somebody who that you could respect that you're comfortable with now everybody has a different way of having a relationship with some people you know they tag along wherever the revenue goes and some people you know that's not their thing but you have to have a human being who you feel that you could grow from and that ties into humility also some people say I don't need a Revy you know just give me the the gemara and tell me this year and I'll figure out everything on my own but I see look arrive it now in mathematics you don't need the revi he tells you the formula you master it and you're on your own why do I need to have a relationship with my mentor my professor my teacher and the answer is Torah is not mathematics Torah is different it's not enough to go into your mind it has to enter your blood it has to enter your heart okay here are some other ideas the gemara says in Arabic yeah hello so you're going to speak about mayor I wasn't planning on it right but we'll get it we'll get a little we won't speak around May we're talking about bro yeah remember yeah mayor's wife and Maria saw a certain student it's a good morning and the student was learning he was sitting there and he was learning and burrio went over to him and she kicked him she said you showed us she didn't use that word she said it says that when you enunciate the words of Torah then you'll remember and if you don't say the words you don't remember that's interesting she used when you learn Tara with all of your avarim then it will be preserved now what does it mean learned with all your ivaram how do you learn title with your fingers or your toes so the Marshall explains that when you say the words of Torah it creates vibrations and literally your whole body vibrates So when you say the words you know the vibrations are shaking your whole body it will stick within you longer in fact anyone who says the words of tar while you're learning you'll remember it if you just read it silently you will forget it quickly I'm going to tell you if you're sitting in front of a gemara and you just think the words you now became the midst of tomato that's a Whopper now if somebody argues or shamizaman says no you can't say that if you just think the words that if you so they asked the question is so when I go to Ashira I'm not doing anything so when you go to Ashira your makayaim saying the words through the same way when you hear kidush it says if you said it when you hear a sheer it's as if you said it but according to that as much as I love torahanytime.com you would not be able to do on a recorded shear because you can't be able to take on a recorded chair butman says no if someone was almond says you're not absolutely required to say the words of Tara to Mika in the midst of tamatara it's just that the way to the the format of Torah is such that because the question is when you're learning with the kabrusa so you have to you can't both be saying the words the most annoying thing in the world is you know when people hear this and then you're learning with them and then I'm saying it and then quiet I'm saying not you you know and the guy wants to say it along with you so so the Quran says you don't have to come on it's that Hashem gave the midst of tamatera that sometimes one person says and sometimes another person says it okay now think about the following do you think if you're learning math it would matter if you say one plus one equals two two times two equals four four divided by two you think it makes an afghanina if you say the words you don't say the words you understand that you don't understand that why should saying the words have an effect on your level of understanding but as we mentioned tamatara is different than all other disciplines tamatara requires now what we're learning is also that in order for Torah to be absorbed in your bloodstream you want to involve as many modals as many parts of your physiology as possible you want to say the words you want to hear it from Arabi I'll tell you another ingredient here's another ingredient or no he's done that in Israel yeah so then you know the bathroom [Music] yeah how is it going how does it go the name he knows he knows yeah right the guy with the scarf you know right no who knows you know the yeah I see I could tell Ashley Khan says fortunate is someone who comes to the next world with his learning in his hand says what does it mean fortunate as someone who comes to the world next world with his learning in his hand the Masha says this refers to someone who writes down what he learns I remember looking back at and being in high school in three out of my four years I took notes on the shiram and one year I I didn't take notes and the reason is that the the share wasn't as organized as a as the other shiram but I for sure had a much deeper understanding of the learning the years I took notes it didn't even compare the years I took notes did not compare in any way to the years I didn't take notes that's what the government is actually me shabala Khan the tamudoy biada when you write down you're learning it affects you on a much much deeper level it penetrates the heart on a deeper level so these are all things these are all techniques these are all tricks to get the learning from your head into your heart you want to listen from a rebbe you want to say the words you want to write it down these are all Supernatural ways of getting the Torah into your heart I'll tell you another important uh idea you don't think more about them had a dispute with one of the amaran with like this if the Torah would ever be forgotten I would restore the Torah through my pill and repria said no no no no I would make sure the toe would never be forgotten what I would do is I would take five boys five young men and then another six young men I would teach each one of the boys I'll teach each one of the boys one of the mishna and then I would have them teach it to each other and this way the hamisha kamshita would never be forgotten and the shishu city mishnah would never be forgotten that's the gemara and the gemara says about asks why did rupriya teach each one of the five boys and each one of the six boys he should have just taught all 11 kids all you know the five books of the Torah and the Surah and call it a day why was it so important that he give each one one and they teach it to somebody else so that shall explains this balance but Cleo wanted to make sure each one of these boys reached the highest madrega of Torah the highest madrigo of Torah is not Lil moyed it's not to learn only it's Lil moyed if you not only learn but if you teach to other people your level of understanding of what you learned will be infinitely higher and more deep in fact you ever wonder the gemara says foreign there's no comparison between 100 you ever wonder how in the world am I supposed to learn something 101 times is that possible somebody was so somebody once came to the stapler so many ones came to the stipler and he said uh yeah I'm not sure I'm sitting in kailal but I have opportunity to give shirim should I take off time from learning to prepare a sheer and the stapler says of course you should do you understand that if you're able to clarify something and give it over to somebody else it's the equivalent of learning it 50 times so then it comes out you if you do that twice you already got up to 100. you want to really know your learning be clear about your learning find someone in the sheer that needs a little help make sure you have it down now if you're going to be listening from the rebbe and you took notes and you said the words chances are you know it pretty well say it over to that guy that will be the equivalent of 50 times and if you don't have anyone to say to call up your brother call up your sister call up your mother even she doesn't know what you're talking about say it over you say over learning that's the highest madrego of tamatara Lil moyed you know what is go over and tell your friend he's not interested in hearing too bad hold him hostage say it over to him you just put it in your backpack you got 50 times tell your call up your grandfather your grandmother your great aunt your great aunt bothers you enough you bother her tell her over you want to hear over malarama you know say over the whole thing say over the whole thing if you could say over something to somebody else say come on I don't even understand it well enough that's because you have to hear it from the rebbe and you take notes and you listen and you say the words all of these things are going to help you understand that on a very deep level and then here's the most important ingredient you ready for this here's a guy he doesn't understand his math so he takes out the hill him and he starts davening is he going to understand the math better if you ask most professors in University if saying to Hill him will have help you understand mathematics better it's doubtful that they would say it has a major statistics do not show correlation between Fila necessarily and a deeper understanding of mathematics but the Camaro says in brachice it says like this is pray for this pray for this means I remember when I was a bachar I once uh asked Victor Miller you know why do we dive in foreign you don't get anything if you don't Davin anything you want you don't get unless you spell you need to pray for this more than anything else the gemara brings an opinion what's Zeus Tyra that the most important ingredient to being successful in learning is davening it is a person's responsibility to Daven for themselves that they should be successful in Tyra how often all day whenever you when you're walking down the street on your way home on the way to Yeshiva on the bus in the car always you always have to Diamond for that doesn't there's no specific formula you know it's interesting just speak out you know the mission says that if you look in in the first page almost every gamer you have that Fila of an account sign foreign should you say that the rambam in the parishram says one is to say that but if you look around I don't I don't know you know that it's so in America you don't see most yes before they learn they say that's Fila so there's a number of interesting justifications why do we don't say that Villa is that we shouldn't make a mistake in paskening and the field is that is said when you enter the base ham address so the says like this most poison learn at home so they're not entering the base matters are not paskaning so therefore everyone is absolved from this film it's not obligatory in the footnotes in the end of Israel he says that when we say in the morning I have a rabba that's like the TV of before and when we say that's like the Fila of maidim at the end but still the khazrainish recommended saying it and I'm not here to tell you you should say it you shouldn't say it you'll ask yorubby but one thing the gemara does say is that a person has to invest great efforts in davening for their success in limanatara so what I don't understand toy Swiss I'm not smart enough you know this is not for me I'll come to something in a minute no maybe you're not understanding you need to dive in more you need to dive more intensely a person's success in learning Tyra is very much dependent on how much uh Felix they invest in their learning so you think about it now so learning is dependent on humility it's dependent on having a rebbe it's dependent on if we write if we say the words antifila these are all intangible Supernatural ingredients then when it comes to any other discipline one would think that these things have no relevance at all And yet when it comes to tamatera these things are very important can I say one more thing and then we'll let them okay okay here's the thing I'll tell you personal experience you're learning a gamara you're learning a tysus and because you have no idea what it's talking about and you say forget it uh you know that's it I'm throwing in the towel this learning thing is not for me so I tell you a little secret this I learned a while ago you know why you don't know what it's you know you know you know you don't know it's flying because you only learned it one time you will never unless you're like a a genius you won't understand it the first time see how many times do I need to learn it the stipler writes based on the guitar and Arabian that when they bunch of them give the turret to my shopping Hashem I'm almost done Hi how are you two minutes I'm almost done when Hashem gave the turretsinai I want to welcome my uncle Dr Sherman Glick this guy from bears discusses and Mark says what is the arrangement the format of learning Moshe then calls in arunakayan and moisture teaches most of them teaches the Torah to Allah and isama they come in and think about discusses where exactly did Allah sit did one sit on the right did one sit on the left then the gemara says there's a canaanim came in then says the rest of Claus Israel came in so think about it for a moment at this point in time Aaron heard it from Maisha Aaron heard it again from Maisha when my to Aaron and the benihara Aaron heard it a third time when moshot and Allah and there's a kanim and then our own has to teach it to his two sons and to the zucchinim and the rest of Israel and the gemara says every member of the Jewish people ended up learning it four times Aaron learned it four times Allah learned it four times the cicada went to four times and the rest of college so I learned it four times says from here we conclude that when one learns something one has to learn it four times so the stipler writes in one of hisaram this has nothing to do with Hazara we're not up to hazar yet you're not up to Hazara until you've actually learned it Beyond four times the first four times is still considered learning you know it took me years sometimes you learn a tysis or you learn a Taz or a shock you say I don't know what's going on I don't know what he's talking about it's because you only learned it once you'll see you come back and read it a second time it's a completely different world and if there once you read something four times you've just learned it they give up very quickly they think you know I understand other subjects right away so if I don't understand Kamara right away or twice this right away it's because I'm not cut out for it I'm not suited for this for this discipline it's not true the the format of learning is different than other disciplines the gemara says learning requires siata the shmaya and the ingredients necessary to be successful are very different than the ingredients necessary to be successful in other disciplines so we spoke about a number of the ingredients uh learning Tyra number one we spoke about humility Asana writes the more humble somebody is the more of a receptacle they become to be a Klee for tamatara we spoke about writing writing is a way of deepening a person's appreciation understanding of learning we spoke about the importance of saying the words and Martin Irvin says by saying the words the Torah penetrates deeper the importance of assail arrive when somebody learns from a revi the Torah is more impactful these are all things that when it comes to other disciplines may or may not be crucial ingredients but when it comes to tamatara tamatara is what we call La Mala mise and therefore the ingredients needed to be successful are very different than ingredients need to be successful in other disciplines so in this very important year of transition to make the right decision in your Yeshiva choice for the next year and look forward to hearing good news with from everyone thank you so much you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you like torahanytime.com