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broadcasts online and I figured he's in
Lakewood at least tonight obviously
going the outside we could have
something that has some Shadows to the
guy Tom he's not really about the going
but they could rely on him that he'll
make some kind of connection to this
message was only going and uh
so okay so first I'm just gonna say
briefly just a few introductions
number one is thank you for hosting it
thank you for arranging it okay that's
number one number two
is that this year is the year of the
um not only have they printed the last
form of the hida but they also there's
been three different versions of the
travels of the that have come out this
year
one of the most remarkable things that
you see about besides for that he was
such a tremendous Goddess that he was
traveling always for a large amount of
his career and he still was able to be
Beyond prolific and holding and learning
when one's traveling it's very hard to
be holding in any in anything and you
see a lot of it was very hard for them
but let's say that you couldn't even
tell that he was traveling
um that's an excuse that's number two
number three is that I'm not comparing
myself from The Godly aspect I'm just
gonna clear myself in the excuse of the
travel number three is this is
um
all uh
um it's a theory it could be it's
completely wrong some of the things are
right but some but as the whole picture
it could still be wrong
um it's part of a much bigger picture
that um that's definitely not going to
be boring you with all the details right
now therefore I'm not going to bring all
the proofs for everything just to give
some ideas of different things to
connect them even though it's not
um straight up learning that maybe parts
of it you can't make but it's still some
it's based on tyrannium
um it's also relates because of the
garage yard site we'll see some insight
into the gross-based measures that was
never
um that was not noticed before
um
and just two other
three other short things is one is that
mits Hashem in a little more than a week
is going to be a convention you shall I
am from the base of that the fourth base
of that which is a bunch of from
um people talking about swarm and all
different types of things one person one
of the sessions of that convention is
going to be actually devoted to gaining
so this is actually a relates to
something over there that they will not
be saying but
um so you'll get some of Heritage I
don't know if it's going to be online so
you get something beforehand that will
be related not that I'm speaking there
but it relates to some of the things
that are going to be said there
two other things this one is I'm not a
professional speaker I only speak online
it's just me and someone talking
watching me on a camera so I apologize
and the last thing is like this the
based on all what I will try to say as
I'll be able to say it as fast as
possible
um is that the it's we also show the
significance of bibliography
um dates when things will happen when
swarm are printed reading even the
hagdamas and the shower of a safer how
important it is in order to understand
the broader picture of what I hope to
attempt to say tonight okay now the
title that we gave it is
Berlin some people know him as a wish I
pick
um we're friends on Margolis and the
basement
and there's going to be a dogish on the
world of
that the influence of rubyshire Berlin
and I'm going to claim how it has to do
with somehow to get Turbo Farmers almond
and it gets to the base measures of the
group
okay so first is the first person to
introduce Israel performance my friends
are my goal is is born in 1760 dies in
1828 suddenly and he's one of the dailym
AP
interestingly enough is he was never a
rough of any particular City he is a
rich person who is asking in his City
and but even still he was considered one
of the daily Hadar of his kufa which is
very uncommon means say there are many
cases of people that were Rich that were
famous that were learned but to be a
godaddar in that period of time
especially because he was in close
contact already from a young age with an
idea
Berlin remember fall hamburger later on
with Tom the Michigan State because I'm
safe here and many others
now because he was rich he was able to
sit most of his time he was able to
learn
and write and he published many Farm in
his lifetime and some of his farm came
in afterwards and he's famous that his
farm are a different genre you say it
comes with different styles different
types of writings he has truvis and he
had a Locker's farm and all different
types of things okay
um today I want to focus on a safer of
his that's less
um it's it's well known but it's not
really been focused on what the
significance of the safer is and that is
his purse that he wrote on the sikto
rabassi now
why did he write this Parish so he says
that he was he he basically fell into
depression after his oldest daughter
died in 1809
she was very sick he wasn't able to
learn he writes he wasn't able to learn
halacha so he basically says that he
went and wrote a parish on sukta and he
Lamesa he only finished the parish in
1825 but he doesn't print it it's
printed afterwards and the manuscript
still exists today in Hip University now
the question is okay so he wrote it and
he says why he wrote it what's unique
over here is that no one in that
generation was really writing perushim
on majors
no one was really being Isaac in
measures to write some perusian at least
in galicio so um the so one of the
people that are that um is very involved
with with the world of Agatha um his
name is kanano Mack So He suggests that
it really has to do with there was in
let's say in 1806 which is right before
buffon's almond there was some perish
under sukta which we don't know much
about but it existed and the people from
the basement
but the problem is that that's good for
vilna but reforms is far away in galicio
how does it how do they connect and who
um at all
okay now when you look in the parish
it's um zaraphrayim
of his you you'll be you'll see that
there's various interesting things in
this Parish and that and that is like
this it's not just that someone
sometimes you have a safer and a goggle
has tairua and he attaches it to a said
safer
um and a lot of times the claim is you
know he just he looked for a safer that
he could find and he put his own type
his own let's say a darshan would
sometimes take a Madras and put it there
but he's not really concerned as much
with the actual safer over here this
safer the the major sector so Robert
frames Alma goes he was completely
concerned with the text to the Metro she
went through the safer carefully closely
reading it
and he's very concerned with to
understand the actual measures
um and what that means is he's also
concerned with the of the text
um in order to do that he also uses uh
incredible bikias and all of hazal you
xiaomi mcgillus Tinus and um what's his
name is
that just came at the time in sector he
uses all these madrasan to help
understand this magic
not only that he had a incredible that
were around at that period of time he
uses that also for the
Sometimes He suggests that there's
mistakes in the in the text of the of
the magician he fixes them sometimes
it's based on the other
um that he finds in other places
sometimes it's himself
but basically is that if I'm not going
to go into all the details to show all
these things but this is um what you see
in this Parish now one of the things you
see in this Hebrew also is that he uses
the safer we know as the safer which
quotes numerous numerous times and for
two reasons one is to explain the words
of the madrish and two also to explain
the of the sector and I will return to
explain what what these two things would
are shortly okay so basically here you
have a person who's being Isaac in
madrush agada intense is not really even
though we know the Quran his base
marriage are crazy and
um and everything he is not necessarily
as far as we know he didn't go to
villanue or anything like that and he's
doing this in Galicia and the question
is how
um how
is there any way that we could figure
out that maybe something happened that
triggered him to be so executed with
this style or something like that it
could be he just did it's that not the
question could be that there's no it's
not really a question and he just did
but based on what I saw I'm going to
suggest the possibility and there's this
false
libraries
he had the most extensive Library
probably of anyone in the city or
anywhere around it including rare books
and manuscripts and um and truvis that
were only published inspiredly places he
imported it in and that's how the Sherry
chuva was written it was written from
his extensive Library so that even
though he did so I'm not going into it
he did does have a connection to vilna
but has nothing to do with this and only
starts a little later at this time in
1809 he doesn't have a strong connection
with his own language
yeah but there's no one else doing this
so it wouldn't help he does have he does
have a connection to big people in
Krakow and everyone else I'm saying at
15 which is in the 1780s he's already
has a connection with the Knight Buda so
that's the pro he has connections with
people
anyway my suggestion is the files
I'm looking through his shoes you see
and this in order to get to this we have
to we moved to Germany in bresler what
happened is like this Robert frame
Zalman going through his truvis we find
that one of the people that he wrote a
lot to was a yield name or bishari
Berlin it's now the story shifts for a
few minutes and that is his spouse we
wish I pick is very famous today
everyone heard of him but that's about
what they heard we existed who is he
what was he what was his significance
very little
it was once a lecture many years ago set
over when when Berliner professor of
Berliner got a award I think on based on
the Berlin Foundation or the pick
foundation so he gave a lecture a query
collected all the history that was known
about about
um
really shy
later on Chicago Abramson he did not
like that article but he also wrote some
articles about Riverside Berlin
um why we'll get too soon now Vishay
Berlin who is he so he basically he
seems to be born around 1725 he dies in
1799. he's wondering people don't
realize
um
to learn most of his life and he was a
prolific writer only the last few years
has become the rubber breast level now
he wrote on all areas of Tyra when I say
that I mean
and truvis he had with all different and
and and more now
he has interesting safer known about the
when gumar says Kasha he talks about
that and he has the Messiah also and
more now eventually some of us are guys
are published on the side of the gemara
his brother was a printer they put it on
the side and through this he was in the
second times or he throws you out
and sometimes and also he always he knew
since he was he was he had a crazy
bikiest and called
and all different types of things as I
said he wrote it intense even safer
antisepter which it seems to be lost now
the 2K cipherm writes that he that his
Union that he wrote opened up at that
time when it came out they everyone
understood it was unbelievable how it
opened up different areas of of of
learning it made it easier because it
made it more accessible yeah
what's well known is that he had
most some of his stuff was printed even
as very recently
um
but there exists even in public
libraries today various manuscripts of
him that would be very worthwhile to be
printed but but they haven't been
published okay maiso it's well known is
that he wrote a lot to the name behuda
and these truvis it could be he was even
the person who wrote the most
um
rights in one place
another time
is not someone that was famous for
exaggerating and if you decided at that
time you know it was done is probably
already at least in the 1780s was
probably
for sure it was from so it's a pretty
nice uh statement to have written about
you but I knew that was Tom movick was
the realizer fleckless in a hesper that
he gave on rabi Shire Berlin and from
here you also see again how they looked
at him at that time
to make everything accessible and
everything and also he was also he was
honor of all these types of things okay
anyway this is rubbish
now one of the things that Shire Berlin
did that he was famous for was he wrote
a parish
um
okay so so we take that for granted that
there's a fever called shelters and then
he wrote a parish on it but what's the
story behind it so here we see the
significance of reading introductions of
a safer and in the introduction we find
um a fascinating story that the kids are
there was a guy he was a tutor for um
kids in the in the in the city and he
wasn't making enough money he was also
harusoever beshire Berlin's
um brother-in-law who was a printer so
he wanted to make more money he asked
them for an idea so the idea was which
was a common idea in those days they'll
reprint an old safer so they do he
what's what's safe they do they decide
the printer shoulders now when was the
shelters first printed in 1548 now since
1548 till this is we're holding 1786
it's not printed that's a few hundred
years
had a famous library for that was known
of having larva doesn't either have the
shoulders and don't really have the
shelters
so this
um person his name was Isaac
he got from the rub of
breslauge of two men who seems to have
had a very nice Library he had an
original
um shelters and he gave it to him but he
said you know I don't give you a good
idea you just print the shortest no one
cares about it it wasn't available for a
few hundred years because there was no
demand go over to abhishaya Berlin ask
him maybe he'll write you how good you
sounded safer
so we'll help sales he goes and gives
attempt three months later he gives him
this work called Chila Shalom and that
helped and you see that it's a race
start as we'll see actually that that
seems to have helped sales
and it's printed in 1786. well my
service continues to write her artist
and it's only printed the last batch of
ours are printed much later on anyway
what does he do he uses the shelters
which is an early which is a guy in a
quirk and he used it for the the Tama
badly the gear size that could help and
and he also adds in a lot of interesting
tire for it that relates to the focus on
the shoulders wasn't a guy that just
took his Tyra on National Music and he
said oh I have a great opportunity to
put it into the shelters over here no
he's concerned with the shoulders but
we'll get to that shortly and the native
who ends up writing a Monumental work on
the shelter says that the Parish of
Riverside balloon mamish opened up the
safer for for anyone before yeah now
that is the next step the next step is
but what does it have to do with
reference on my goals the original
questions the answer is
that they as I said they had a chirus
balance a close correspondence were able
to tell from various letters that we
have that we have of them and
and we see
um one of the things that happens is he
tells them right away shortly after the
Showplace comes out and set basically in
1787 was printed in 1786 and 1787 he
says I got you Parish I have a few hours
and he sends them some hearts now it
seems that he might have been alluding
that he doesn't have a copy
um maybe you could send me a copy and it
seems that Richard and he sends him a
copy afterwards with ribiakova it might
be that this is rebiakov Orlando the son
of the name behuda who was a a very
close friend the river finds on but I'm
not 100 sure yet anyway they have
letters back and forth many letters some
are printed in the base of frame and
other places and you see from here in
these letters what's very interesting is
an intense in-depth discussion of all
different things called Terry cooler
plays out over here but a lot of times
it's about the
Shire Berlin starts talking about not
not only it starts with these horoson
arrows but it gets into all different
things and gets into his he starts
telling about a safer quote have flushed
everything foreign
and he tells them different things and
he quote some big pieces says them oh
thank you so much just help me I was and
they deal back and forth now
it's very passable now we see also from
elsewhere profanzan was very into the
not only in his era frying but other
places for other reasons some of them
will get to shortly now
could be that because of this here at
this time these early letters or foreign
so it could be this triggered the the
his to make his interest even greater in
the arrow and with the shortest but it
seems also there's a concept called the
Republic of letters that a lot of times
certainly they didn't even meet but they
they they used to talk and learning
through letters so they had this um
connection anyway
the the what's the hashivas of the art
of the Safar so a lot of people think
the Earth is just a dictionary you'd see
you know it has words you don't know you
know uh it's early gesture let's say you
stuck with a word and you just look it
up but the answer is it's not true an
intense
um looking into the safer let's say by
one of the great Experts of the safe
articles was Professor shraga Abramson a
great lutfish
and he was an expert amongst many other
things in the safer so he writes that if
someone learns to say carefully you'll
see it's not just the dictionary
it's a it's like a sort of Encyclopedia
basically not only when he's talking
about the word he'll bring you the whole
gear so because he wants he knows that
that's also going to be useful and he
adds a lot of things that sometimes you
know he could have just said it with two
words this word means this but he brings
you the whole text and and what people
have is a lot of times
could help playing out to understand you
have a new nusok in let's say a magic
because he's saying the word means this
like a means in this magician it brings
you the whole line also he preserves a
lot of
sources so so to speak this will be one
of the this is one of the earliest
makairs that we have before the
kairagens and stuff like that of of
material doesn't say far
right
is also that's how they proved it
because he was oh oh right it's right
right right right right right right
correct anyway
right right right exactly that right so
no they they hold her he really meant it
it can't be he did if he did it 10 times
it'll be one thing but he does it
through throughout the safer so they
hold that it must be that he knew he was
conscious of what he was doing and this
is what he meant anyway
um okay so this is step two now what is
that what but how is it now could I use
this somehow to answer my question with
the zero fry and the answer is like this
I'm when I'm when you I said yeah one of
the things that significant is looking
at the shower of a safer so I was
randomly looking at the shower of the
first print of the shoulders with a very
shy Berlin prince in 18 in 1786. and
then and he and there's five things in
the beginning of the
of the safer where he says this is what
I'm about to do in the safe one of them
is he says I'm gonna
um
that needs to be changed or maybe we see
a new Nursery based on these gear stars
then he says is
only very rarely I'm gonna look if it's
a Rashid or the safer which anyway I
said that which I was already had a
massive Purge that he had he didn't
print at the time but he had already
under our ready to go
um another thing is I'll deal with is
stuff that he could be mefarish in the
sugya based on the shelters now
and you look at these four or five
things this is the blue it's clear is
we're friends on my goal this is filing
this blueprint when he's doing his
Parish Zara frying he's also concerned
with to be mefarish to safer based on
the battle you xiaomi Safra free image
Russia he's also concerned about The
Shining us and the text of it to look at
it very carefully sometimes he will
point out that there's a nunus from the
text and he'll play around with it also
he uses as I said rashidises to explain
the words to say for ARA and also then
he has his Pirates he puts in here which
is similar to what he does so it could
be
consciously subconsciously after he got
it before since anyway they were on the
same wavelength and the same type of
thing that that there was some type of
influence of maybe shayar Berlin
his Parish on the shelters with the
zarifying okay but
it's really much this the story is much
much
um deeper than this and that it's his
fouls
up till now
um we're taking for granted is that
everyone knew about going in that period
of time we're talking the 1780s so
everyone knew okay this guy Nick works
and everything like that and and that
couldn't be further from the truth no
one at that time knows anything about
God you know and and so much so there's
literally nothing printed from at that
period of time someone is is in 1780 and
he decides he wants to go buy he wants
to start building a library and he has
all the regime now he wants to go back
to Dynam he will not be able to find
anything maybe he'll be able to get some
rear book dealer at the time and tell
him okay I'll give you a short test from
we quoted that when the shoulders is
printed first in the 1500s but that's it
pretty much all right one second oh now
what but what does exist
so so first of all like this the um
cheer who eventually he becomes the
first big historian that starts writing
the history of the guy named he says and
he's writing this a little later he's
writing this in the 1830s
so basically if someone wanted to get
something it's very hard now well there
really is there is a few things there is
a there's a safer called shade of a
Troopers which is printed in 1575 but
it's a very unclear how much it's really
got you know looking at it people have
pointed out that there's even stuff from
the same I got in there so it's not
clear how much is going is equal there's
a early work called but I spent in 1516
and no one really knows about it or has
it there is once you get a little later
on into the time of abusive Berlin after
Prince of this is the Shari sadek all of
a sudden around that time there is the
mishpate
they were printed earlier but from 1602
and armors they're not available and no
one has them no one's using them there
is it's printed in 1548 but then it's
not printed till 1811 so there's a few
hundred years that maybe maybe as I said
when they wanted to print the schultes
the regressive tumor who's the revo
breast out he happened to have a
shelters in his library but I don't know
how much he ever used it and and they
didn't have it or use it so much what
about to say for Arrow safaric also
wasn't used until the 16th and the 1600s
it was printed a few times but then it's
not printed pretty much in the 1700s one
time and then 1819 which is later than
what we're talking about it's printed
Again by Maisha Landell the grandson of
November
later on right that's later on
um yeah but but before you even get some
concerns the the early masculoma before
them they also were very interested in
it and they start writing about it and
they start printing whatever they find
but
was definitely interested in that now so
basically my claim is that one this poor
guy that didn't have paranasa and then
he ends up getting the shoulders printed
was a trigger because for everything
because all of a sudden now he's
sharably right so be Indica parish and
as I said rubber Farms on my goals here
is about it but not only does it
referring song goes here about it and
other guiding works are coming out let's
get now we have to get to vilnu vilna
the die in a villain on the time of the
Wunderground the author of The River
hazov who dies in 1797. he wrote this
incredible work called the river
this is
he brings tons of his and even some good
some of the guy in him that he had which
as I said was was come out nothing but
it's usually through situ Timo of quotes
from your shame but he brings the
shelters which shelters is he using the
shock this overshire Berlin and he even
and he brings the Sheila Shalom Berlin
another Greek
the great Adam brings shulcus which
Edition does he use in his
he says so so we see that all of a
sudden now starts and around this time
all of a sudden not a lot of works but a
few Works do come out and a few other
gudalem are starting to be Isaac in
going so the Sheila shalim was the first
Hebrew that understood the significance
that what lies in the shoulders the
gearsalis how can help play out with the
bavly and this opened up the world of
going yeah
the the academics that were oystick in
the in the city of geinim so they write
out and they map out the whole history
they are not aware that all this was
happening much where they say it starts
from this is much earlier from them they
they are not aware even some of them
that are aware of some of the people but
they're not aware of all this
um
that all this that was happening really
about 50 years earlier okay let's say
that now
um but one one last which again goes
further into the excuse for the to the
to the base to tie to the base managers
of the guy that's his fouls
one of the great questions that's asked
with relating to the vulner going is
that when does his impact happen and how
does this impact happen and what's his
impact on his generation and the
generation immediately afterwards
um and how does it happen when you say
how does it become so famous was he
famous in his lifetime was he what was
what was he if he was famous in his
lifetime what exactly was he famous for
who was the proper who was the mamshikh
of him which people who are they and all
these things and people have been icic
with this for well over
um
from literally after he died until alien
people are constantly coming up with
different theories one of the things
that people point out is if you're
trying to pinpoint the um what came out
that had an impact is the the world of
um agada the madrasium and to learn it
intensely is a generation after the
Wilma going people such as the radau the
Russia and men and many others of Landau
who all these people wrote purush
besides for what else they wrote
um
so there now they didn't see the vulner
going so but they linked them there's a
fellow who wrote a very interesting
doctorate and then book called Gil Pearl
where he links it that we see these
people and they were in Vilma many of
them and they were Isaac in midrasham
and it's clearly that there was some
type of influence on the film we're
going from okay He suggests that where
does this influence come from one of the
people He suggests is
the author of the famous work told us
but he doesn't say how
I I think he means this because he was a
darshaner and they all heard him speak
and everything and they quote him
rashage quotes from a dial quote some
other people quote him so he heard him
give drushas and adversions usually into
measures so maybe that triggered it more
and then they themselves went ahead and
wrote intense Persian on madrish okay
but that could be I I don't know I I was
not in contact with him no but he
doesn't explain it but it seems that
there's more to the story and that is a
spouse
a mom is not well known is that besides
for writing this best-selling book
called Talus Adam he wrote a parish on
major shrabah that exists today it's
printed I'm voracious and this Parish
similar to rubber Margolis is Isaac in
bringing much below to comparisons from
a ton of usage of Safra to explain hard
words and bringing different gear solids
in the actual Majors this is what he
does throughout the parish in these
three volumes that we have and these
three and the three halaka Muhammed that
it was printed now okay
it's in the measures it's a Biore it
doesn't have a full name even but
okay now
favor amongst the many people that he
knew well it's interesting is he knew
rabishai Berlin personally well his son
robsev was the darshan villain
afterwards recently to have his drushas
printed from manuscript which is an
incredible has incredible information
but the drush itself is excellent and
also there's a lot of information about
London kufa says that my father was
okay and we have actually some things
that he says over from him and elsewhere
now there's a safer called nachos avas
he says I saw the safer sheilaim of
Berlin pick that was given to Matana
from abhishai Berlin to ruble
and I had and it says it said in the in
the inscription
so now as a side it happens to be the
reframe's alma goes also was a great
friend of rugby fesco fivo but we don't
have to come on today I'm able to link
him directly to be shy Berlin so just
like rabi shayam
um
had an influence as I'm claiming on some
level with calitzia before I'm Zaman who
ends up having influence on all of
Galicia
um
so too he has this ashba on Ruby
classical Fievel and that is also how
Robert who did have a connection
who all end up writing position on
on the um madrasia agada so it's some
type of connection and it will link
Germany Galicia and villain altogether
now there is something that I'm omitting
over here and it's on purpose because
it's still completely unclear there was
a tremendous tremendous person
um who sadly the way it works is
sometimes if someone has a famous father
so even though they're very big they
sort of get lost
incredible but it's it's still I I have
to be you have to be able to show that
he actually had an influence let's say
on these people
um and that is still a work in progress
but he was are you sick in madrasia
Agatha he was around the time he was a
big Talmer of his father but that's not
for
now anyway but that's the um in short
ly
yeah
yeah but it's not only there but it's
also the method I'm concerned about the
method not the library the library they
could be they had um
yeah the interest is also interest is
not enough
he picked that one he picked that one
that doesn't have to that that actually
cast The Terror doesn't have to be exact
they have to be able to explain the
method he's doing where does it come
from no one's writing there's no one
beforehand writing such a parish like
that only maybe maybe you could say
um people in vilna but it's very
interesting and the side of the village
he very often brings them right not
outskirts
with Rashi on a circle right he says
it's also because he wants you to know
the perishable medium of the thing he's
very concerned both in his the safer
which today we have which is called
it's an intense Parish on Arrow it's
concerned with rash entices how they
learn the words and and dealing with it
it's not just
dictionary
exactly it's extremely important for him
and yeah 100 writing on measures and I
make materials all the same no no it's
two things but they're using the same
method in both that's what's interesting
that they're using that is
no it's simple very simple it's it's an
excellent way of marketing to sell a
manager to sell the measures much later
on it's not it's these years we're
talking the early 1800s that's the 1870s
you know the The Madras rather I'm
talking about
but it was an amazing work for that
period of time because they went and
tracked down everything we say there was
still there were masses learning Majors
but you know and people were learning
Majors now makes it that you can learn
magic amazing with x amount of pollution
foreign
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but it's not necessarily an evil thing
it's more convenience they want you to
build the one to have two volumes of
everything
he stuck some things in man it could be
that but the main goal was not it was
money
right
they don't like him at all basically the
stipler doesn't like him at all and his
Malu in his um because of what he wrote
in the maluma but it's interesting is
that if you read an account of him in a
account you would think he was a regular
he was actually a regular from Orthodox
Jew he and one of the things that he was
lost is he wrote a book on the hayadam
for example he was from
Sherman he might have had interesting
cheetahs but if you read an entry about
him by someone that knew him personally
from that time that was only printed a
few years ago you wouldn't be again it
doesn't mean that all the problems
inside you are not problems they
probably are but that's what's
interesting right
biography they sound like
regular from people then you have to
start going through this stuff and all
of a sudden you start seeing interesting
things
which which
is most well not at all in the 50s so
that's when the start of it is
just a continuation no there's nothing
to do it has nothing to do with it we
see
it's impossible to read is you look at
most people today when you look at it no
one's looking at a regularly issue of
People if they pull it out it's only
caused the native it's a convenient
place
right right people putting many law
Yeshiva libraries have in the hummus
section
on the civil rights on a parish on the
shelters was that in order to write a
pairs on the shelter yes yes or is it
please get his name out no no nothing to
do that no the native is a huge the
native is it's incredible
imagine if I told you
the middle of this man finds out that
there's a manuscript in Russia of a
reason on mustafa's world bastard he's
giving share about bastard and you hear
he's getting on a plane and he's going
to get he wants to see that manuscript
you tell me I'm crazy but that's what
the native did with the showstas really
yeah he found out that there is a
manuscript of the shelters he got on the
train it took him I can't I try to ask
someone that would know but he didn't
want to do the calculations there's a
way to calculate exactly how long it
took him but it took him a lot longer
than getting on a plane and going
he does the guy told me exactly how to
figure it out but it took him easily a
week to get there to see it and he did
to go see the shoulders now anyone knows
anything he didn't waste a second of his
time that's what he writes
um he signs every tube of his that he's
so I was a avoider so I'm saying it was
also so rude say there but he took off
time I'm saying to go travel and
everything
he could have said
um he he had people in all different
places you're gonna say you know send me
uh yeah whatever a draft whatever he
didn't he went to go see so and the two
is completely out of the box when it
comes to this and the shelters was
beyond that that was he's the whole time
right but it doesn't come out right
that's a different one right right
correct
with me
oh
no Captain two bags in the car once
we're here
all right I spoke about it we spoke to
that right right right right
I I the reason okay I have the first
time I spoke to Liaison is because I was
I was I I saw a smart device
bring a totally saw them but I don't
know too much about the hospital
and he has a it was a it was a stuffy
news had to do with uh and he says a
very sharper lotion
something right and he said very let me
try and I have some things up over here
so
say something on one of these she really
gave about and sounds like he's very
into it so what did you want to tell
tell me what you you I don't remember I
remember the whole uh you said you did a
lot of research right right right I
don't remember there's no way in the
world I'm keeping spending no I am too
long the question
what
is
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so so at this point I I still can't say
um um with confidence one way or the
other well I could say is that
definitely definitely he has to do with
her reference on my goals or her friends
on my goals quotes the question that he
asked from him more than once and it's
clear that he had influence on him but
the claim is for sure before for example
did not have a base Madras with a
Yeshiva and stuff like that and tell me
them he maybe had three or four times
everything is very upsetting right yeah
because but right because but Rush Lima
cooker was good with the Martz and then
he gets upset at him at a certain one
time so you can't always have to be able
to it's that posture exactly what's
going on we say a certain point in time
he would say he was the greatest guy
imagine a 16 year old rights to uh this
type of shylist no way right
that that's a different question I'm not
going into because
right I'm not talking about it I'm
talking
that's a whole different Focus right now
for this year no I'm talking about
friends I'm going to perish or something
yeah so what he's writing on if they
knew the if they knew what the what the
work exactly was that
all these things that this is it took
years it took them years till they knew
exactly better off what it is it's a
short early what early early before it
means before yeah but after that okay
some of Russia must be very late they
have this Russian they called on the
dressers
McGillis and right
yeah yeah he's awesome yeah
for sure
I mentioned that because he brings a lot
of money he also Rings like going with a
lottery shame
a a credible amount for that period of
time to do it and it's usually he must
he also it's clear he had some type of
uh interesting library and also in his
safer it's clear he had some interesting
library was very into his even the
newest retain that were coming out he
quotes right away yeah
that just came out literally within 10
years of imprinting his work
that's why you see Riverhead makes sense
how do we understand why there was a 300
years that no one was interested growing
we don't know but it's the same way
we're showing him that that's the main
thing the machine only started coming
out he met he pointed out the retainer
most of you not even and even then it's
a lot of sectors only today in only in
the past 20 years are we really having
even recite him and everything so it's
not
that's one reason but but but they do
print a lot as far there's a lot of
spiral map so the answer is is what's
the they say the answer Slimer for
example wrote Our many masaktos and the
manuscript it first it took a long time
for even the ones that we do have to
come out why do they stop and why did
they lose the manuscript of most of them
because there was no demand for the
safer already then
there was people ready to copy but
there's no demands basically it's
Farmers sold based on the name is
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there was there are all these types
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right even the adversary took so much
longer until we have a sky and prints it
right that's a crazy thing
so the the history of the printing of
all this Farm we take today we manage
take for granted just press a button you
have Hebrew Books whatever it is in
seconds and even 20 years ago you didn't
have it but forget about I wanted to
tell you what they were learning because
we don't know where to go from
a long time
that was part of the whole winter so it
was the money I think they would have
found but there was like this is
Florida we didn't have that didn't go
through prison for sure
it's completely it's completely it's
completely against but that's not
something actually liquid maybe you
could talk
no basically
what what's going to say just that we we
can't ask him based on his new insurance
that come out that didn't go through the
desires Russia
that's different that each you have to
each region to the good version yeah
even Russians
is missing that's it manuscripts and the
printers just correct correct which
means to say that if somebody will go
through all the kids we have everything
so in the case we have you would find
much more correct yeah yeah
right and it's supposed to come out with
it for years and it never never happened
anybody
's house
he had from floor to ceiling all over
everything right right they hit it right
they hit it they hit him
right but it was basically ready it was
too late when they hit him right
found in a few places
I think only really one thing survived
yeah
right yeah yeah but that was already in
his lifetime he witnessed the getting
lost
our problems
does anyone say those words early
definitely not because they never
thought like that
did you find anywhere
no one says it because it wasn't
factually true in their time so they
wouldn't say
it was meant to be broke out of town
right so it was all the people that went
to it
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they use the railway
look look when you shot me coaching came
out no one said oh no it's a new region
we can't look at it everyone was
grabbing it until they have to forgery
and they used it right away they use the
right way
right I know they say that but you could
use it
on our basics
we didn't have you know until a certain
time all of a sudden it shows up someone
said that Oxford
he just gave out the values
that was the first thing I wanted to see
if they were honest you were awake
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