May I Carry Here? - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

is [Music] or email ist yeshivenet.com i have smith shells of carrying their questions they come up all the time i want to just tell you two questions that they started this sugiya they were back to back yards imagine just one yard here one yard here right next to it and there was a gate in between and there was no air chatseras in between the two yards and a ball the children were playing the ball went from one yard to the other one and they wanted to know could they throw back the ball to the original owner and there was no heir of katseres then we had a shield of someone it was attack her pace jacal bashabas this past year and someone didn't have the challenge got spoiled it didn't didn't get cooked and he wanted to bring chelan from a neighbor and they don't carry in the arab and they consider which is around their eyes at being the streets is there any aids through a guide to have a guy carry something in our streets let's say this and this will give us a very good insight into the whole suggy of carrying that come up all the time but as our derrick always is i think we have to be marked in one very simple you saw it and that is that we touch the isa as carrying and that's inaccurate because as we'll see today many examples it's loved after someone carries something to be over it's clear and the gemara come out that you throw something you kick something well you're not carrying it it takes up the gemara says someone wears a talis that's possible carrying it what i think we have to realize is that a more accurate definition of the issa is not carrying but transferring in other words you're you have an item in sahayah and you bring it to rishi sarabin whether you throw it or wear it or kick it but i saw really is transferring me resourceless so let me explain the basic isawat saw has three parts to it akira you pick up an item press a picks of an item he wants to carry it out of his house so akira means he picks it up then he walks out of his house that's the vara transferring from him and then the completion of the malachi is when he puts it down that's called so he picks up an item transfers it and puts it down this is a simple case of hoyt so because he transmitted miraculously and we'll soon see even if he only did one of one or two it still asked me to abandon but the iss of the rice was transferring and then you can understand what the rush says in in shabbos whether you roll it or kick it so the kicking is the akira and when it lands that's it's your hanok so basically the taj of is transferring resource loricious now before we go back before we apply it i want to make one more point everybody knows if there's a hype it's in rishi sarabham and you move with dollar amis or more that's the issa of izo question why is it right so i started which is a rabbit and they ended up just a rabbit there's no transfer of rishus so if you say the isla saw is carrying no i understand but i pick up an item english is a rabbit and i put it down in your sister album why is that malacha there isa so the answer is if you put on your torah eyeglasses you will see a change of rashuis zak because every person has his dalaramis my dynamics is something like mine that's why you know how to step back into my balaramas when i'm dabbing my dalaran is koina in is mine so let's re-analyze the question there's a favorites in when i pick it up so within dollaramas i'm okay once i walk out of my dalaranis i went to a new resource so walking dalaramis or more vicious in fact and that's why the mahabharata says in shin memphis if alef and you're allowed to carry in the dalaran but more than that is an affecting a transfer of versus mr murray adds a little more flavor because shru is tacked and what's your location is not how it's on but out of dalaran is in fact a haitsa so we basically saw now that i saw means transferring mirrors either from yakit to robin now let's apply the islamizer okay let me start with the simple shia lager comes up in many different or different situations either a mailman or a delivery person they come to your house and they drop it off outside of your hotza outside of your say in other words you have a gate a fence around your house and you know because of cove and everything is covered if it blames covert they can't come to the house they drop it right outside so you're thinking well from the outside of my khatsa to the inside of my hearts is less than dalaramis i have a good idea i'll kick the deliver the item or the mail from rishi sarabham into my private resource and it's less than dollar amis that of course is a terrible mistake because in this scenario you're moving from robin to yohid you don't is necessary english is a rabbit but this it would be a perfect i mean a terribly perfect case of isaac you kicked it so that's the akira the transfer was from and when it landed when it stopped that would be the so there you have a simple case of akira nanaka less than dalaramis because it's viscosely resource and the gemaran shabbos that's there points out when the item stops that's the automatic someone has a pebble on the ledge of his window and it just blows it down to the street that's what that could be i saw their eyes up it's going from his window she said so assuming that to the street someone has a pebble on his porch and he kicks it off into the street same thing porches just for that now i want to be my smite though once and for all we're going to talk today about them that's easier to understand there are many streets many situations that are not really rasha sarabin if there's not a great robin that frequent that street then that's not a restaurant that's called the carmelis if i have a backyard that it's privately owned but it's not in fact it's not enclosed with a fence there's no air around it so it's my property but it's not does not have walls around it i can carry them even though it's just it's my property so that's also called the carmelus i mean suk is around the corner people carry from the yards and the driveways before you carry in a yacht or driver make sure it's taker the fact that it's privately owned is not necessarily the deciding factor a person could have a yard that's not enclosed or a driveway but we're going to say today that you can't carry we're going to use the word sister robin because that's clear surrounding but even if it's only a karmalist even a small street there's not so many people they're still in this there are born from a combination so we say we should sin carmelos okay fine now let's go a little further a person is walking in the shasta robin and his hat flies off his muzzle now it's on the floor so he finally catches it and he wants to pick it up from the floor of islam put her on his head and he's wondering is that a mutter because i'm making a real literal hanako i'm putting it onto my head the answer is you're making but it's not why let's watch you picked up the hat and which is a robin and you put it onto your head now your head is not it was just a rabbit but if you're on your surrounding so is your head so you're making an rabbit to resist a rabbit so basically that's fine so in this case you're allowed to pick up the hat and put it on your head just like you could take off your hat from the table in your house and put onto your head it's yakiti rabbit now what sometimes happens is that a person's rushing and he doesn't have time to stop pick it up and put on his head so as he's walking he picks up the hat and puts it on his head that's risky now let me explain because the truth is theoretically if you put on the hat as you're walking and you don't walk more than dala ramis then you're okay because as we said but let me tell you dollaramas is not that much dalaramis could be six feet six feet is not that much because let's see a person knows he's five feet or six feet so i don't want you to lay down on the street and you know see how much six feet is but what you could do is if you spread your hands typically most people at least the length of their hands stretched out is their height so if you do that and you see how much that is it's not that much i'm five eight so this is approximately five eight so a little more than that you could walk as you put it on your hat my point is that you have you could walk down arms carrying your hat on the street that's fine but it's not that much and if you're walking quickly you could carry will you walk more than dalaran until you get your hat on so it's takamuta but you have to make sure not to go more than dalaran is approximately six feet hazal have told us that the average step of a human being is an ammo if you're not walking too quickly not jumping so three steps you probably could make unless you're going wide steps but more than that you're running into trouble someone asked me or he thought maybe it was but it's the alumnus of terrorists also he says why is the mutila carry less than dalaran if dalaran is it is the rise of why isn't less than so the answer is that it's not there's no such thing because the issa is that's that's a transfer of versus like we said less than dalaran is not a transit versus so it's not a hat it's a hat it's like someone that you know with someone that's sick on yom kippur and he eats less than the sheer that's a khatsi sheer because the issa is eating and he ate but he ate less than the amount but here the only issa is carrying dalaramis less than dollaramas is not transferred so that the paiskim the the price can call this a hat as they state in primage terrorist i could say and he says that since the passage is the next question is someone has a very vital need to have an item carried on shop i'll tell you the child that i began with someone is challenged what didn't work out and it was a replacement shop his whole family was there ready ready for pesa and not to serve challenge is unacceptable he wanted to carry from a neighbor talent aide akum and again he assumed that the streets was just a rabbit he wouldn't carry at all is he allowed to have a guy carry what he considers which is around their eyes i know some of them made a similar difference because they have a guy carry in what we consider this person can say that there was just a wrap in their eyes so the embassy is that it's not possible because even though this mutter that's only a swiss dishwasher if the guy does it there are born on burma commits if you're assuming you tell him that that it's ram their eyes it's not a drab on but there is an eight's what i told them i said if you feel it's a toy react is a very lucha simple late especially in this case if you tell the guy to walk from the yid the benevolent jew that's giving you talent go from his house straight to your house and not to stop in the street go straight from house to house without stopping you're wondering how is that making any better think about it he starts off with yokid so far so good walked in the street dalaramis okay that's an issa but he didn't make him was just a rabbit he didn't stop mr rabbit where was the in the other side so it's pieces but it's not a malachi der isa it's definitely rabbanam walking down ramas but there's no hanukkah to the mullah of dalaran and that's why the ram the raj with the ramban and the ritual and shabbos topic zion says if if a person a yid goes from walking through the streets but doesn't stop in the street it's only an isidira bono i mean only mr bone is still very humble and the tarzan member of bays and the grass of the the rapture and test says we pascal like this it's ah if once that's true then we have an eight zero for our soyuz tells the guy to go from yorkie to yogi through which is around the riser if he has to but he shouldn't stop what are you gaining one song it is this is this is famous the basal levy said you could what i told him is that you have to be a mention also tells the guy to walk across the street he might get hit by a car so i said you have to stay in the street and when there's no car coming tell him okay start going walk directly across the street so he doesn't get hurt and if the guy decides on his own to stop that the police can say that your molochol does not need him to stop so this is an eight so whenever you have a real say that you have to carry something you could tell the let's say you need the khala so whatever you need something for a simran the male person or delivery person comes to your house again he doesn't want to walk into your house so he tells you listen i'm an experienced sharpest guy i know all these laws i'm not going to make you carry rabbi don't worry i don't want to come to your house but once you get the package so i'm going to hold the package and don't move an inch stick your hand out take the package and bring it into your house you're not going to be carrying you didn't move so this guy happens to be in our hearts because what the yid is doing if he does that believe it or not is the malachi der iso he doesn't move an inch he's not carrying an inch but what let's analyze what he's doing he's sticking his hand out there which is around him picking up the delivery item from the guy kira bringing it into his wishes in his yard even though it's a few inches away and he puts it down so the year did not carry true but he did hurt saul see the guy he's in our mouths he doesn't know that but he is not carrying this is a perfect example of our definition it's not carrying but it's a sawdurizer now let's say the the another question a ball a guy a boil play the guy and play with the ball and it lands up it ends up in your backyard so again guardian becomes he comes up positive you know i know all about this caring business just pick up the ball and drop it into my hand and that's all you have to do you don't have to carry it out i'm waiting right outside the same case you're picking up your ball transferring it outside and dropping the guy's hand so this is the hindu straight it's not even carrying a of an inch but here is a perfect trey so without carrying now let's say the guy says okay i know a little bit more than you think i know so what i i know you can't stick your hand out and take the item what i'm going to do is i will you stick your hand out and i'll drop the item into your hand so you don't have to take it from me i'll drop it into your hand so that's not as bad as the previous case because the guy is making the akira but the problem is the yid is doing the havora when he brings the his hand into his house and when he stop and puts it down he's making so here you have an example of a i saw a midra bonum it doesn't have all three requirements but one or two is still an estrada which is bad enough next question and think about this okay the ball rolls bounces into your backyard and the guy says i know more than you think all i may ask you to do is pick up the ball and stand where you are i will stretch my hand out maybe like bastard his hand will stretch all the way out or let's see he's close by the gate and i'll take the ball out of your hand and i'll go play ball vita can the heat pick up the ball and hold it right by the door of the gate so the guy could take it out and walk away so the truth is this the year did not do an akira he picked up a ball on in his own yard i could pick up like my own yard and my own house i'm not picking up to carry it out so technically you did not make an alarm akira i mean he physically picked it up the guy made the akira picking it out of the his hand stretching it out and walking away that's the hanako but the year did not make an actual akira says this very case is awesome because the innocent bystander will see i get picked up something and he like he gave it to the guy or whatever he worked with the guy it's mira kamaitsu bashville and it's also assamed so even though it's not a technical akira it's still awesome it's a bonus one more interesting case let's say the mailman or the olivia person takes he walks into your resource he's not so scared he walks into your enclosed front yard as he's walking oh now he made it to my house and you take out the mail which is not much of course if he's assuming you take it out of his hand did you did anything wrong terribly wrong because as the guy is walking even in your resource there's not yet when you take it out of his hand they get made so even though it doesn't look terrible but if the guy was still walking there's no hanukkah and taking it out of his hand is the anukha now let's say the guy is stopped and he officially made the completed and he wants to hand it to you or you want to take it out of his hand oh that taka is not not an issue if it's not if it's not muktsa these are why because the melaka was completed the guy picked up the item brought him to your resource and stopped us was considered but there's a minute not to take something out of a goy's hand who just finished right so because if you take it out of him when he stops you might take it out of his hand when he's still going plus of course something very often male is muksa and something comes from so the best idea would be the guys ship delivery man person or male person should put it down and then if it's not you could take it but there is such a minute even a case when the melaka was completed the true story someone on the way to sure the wife said please mail the letters but you shouldn't do arab shabbos because it's too close to him because he put in his pockets no problem will take care of it no when people say no problem you know what happens he's walking home from surely after very spirited the kabbalah shabbos and he feels either he has male in his pocket he's carrying he's a male carrier kaputai he's carrying a male but he was a sticker lambda and just then he saw a mailbox he remembers learning that him then a mailbox is a mukbang tour now this we discussed once in a different chair but basically a mock-up hey see if you're a test a small item that's three twerkum above the ground otherwise it's part of the ground and it's not dollar dollar truck the surface area is not approximately twelve or fifteen inches so it's such a non-entity that you're allowed to put from it's just a robber on to is like an island of tranquility it has no identity it's too small to be amanda oma to shake says you allowed to put from the welcome tour she says it's a non-entity so he remembered hearing that you're allowed to put an item onto a mailbox because they're mocking the tour now la maison there's a mistake there i'll tell you why because the city mailbox of today you can measure it on more than dollar dollars he heard in this year probably a private mailbox you know today they have these modia boxes you know that same thing that's a small box that's not a dollar dollar people have it in the mountains they have a small mailbox in there they lift the flag up and down that's taka american patrol because there's less than dollar dollar dollar so he made a heckish mailbox mailbox but there's no such thing a city mailboxes and by depositing the mail from his pocket into the mailbox besides the fact that probably the mail was muksa he probably did a lockheed raisa of hoytson bim so that's why you have to really learn how to carefully a marketplace could be a fire hydrant or the old-fashioned meters that small small area anything of a small area but again the small mailboxes are mocking perturb and the city of mailbacks are too big to be a malcolm tour someone was once walking around and he's he felt he had tissues in his pocket so he said oh my muzzle there was a garbage can right there as he threw it into the garbage can and in fact he got it in the garbage can but he didn't gain because the city garbage cans that are in the streets are wider than dalai lama valid so that's the rishi sayakid so throwing from his pocket he's part of sarab into that garbage can theoretically should be a malachi de raisa of hoyt so the point is transferring is the right word to use and think before we do something it shouldn't be a little shabbos unknowingly i once was walking a very crushed neighborhood rather and i saw like a new ancient type of marathon there was a line of people lined up and they were canning a child handing the child from person to person a person had a child he gave it to the next person and the next person gets the next person the lining of people carrying this child god i knew what they were doing what happened was like sometimes happens we've got the end of a h a friday night's uh and the child must have been very cranky and and you know of a little of a heverman and he refused to go home now what do you do if it's late friday night the child's just plopped he popped himself on the street he's not going home so here you have to get the child home you can't leave a child overnight so if you find a guy to carry the child home you know no that might be an eight sibling i'm sorry if the child should be shouldn't lay on the street all night he's screaming he's yelling and he can't be convinced to walk he's a real stubborn child but there was no guy around so here we come to an interesting answer that might be negated to many cases besides this one because i told you earlier in less than dalaramis so you're wondering i have a good idea i could i could carry less than dalaramis stop and then start again we do it when a person is a little bit stops a while and eats again so the truth is me the rice there's no issa but hazal said you can't carry pogre's parka is less than arms at a time why the reason is because if you you have to get from place to place you might carry in one interval more than dollaramas especially you've got to get to a location that's pretty fun so hazal said even though if you carry less than diamonds and stop and start again you're okay but you're not going to carry parches parkours now let's clarify them let's say i don't carry parker's pockets i just carry six feet or less i give it to someone else and he carries his six feet which you allow to and the next person the next person so that's actually two days in siegel and this sends you the shin alev street members where he pass skins that that in fact is mutter and the sword is if i want to carry a great distance pachrei's pachrais that's the isadorabana because i want to go a further location but if we have a few people doing it each person is doing his minimal amount of pakis and this is not there to do that so these people obviously were fluffy were relying on that head to they have to get the child home you can't leave a child on the street and he's not going to walk on his own he's a very stubborn child so what do you do you rely on this either of pakistan each person will carry less than dalaran and hand it to the next person now the embassies in this case is an additional thought to be mako because also at the uh but then you have to empty out the child's pockets because as these should be mysterious in tests see if canal says there's no heterokinetics that's my on item in the child's pocket but anyhow in this case there are two thousand to be mako high noises that's me with the along with the opponent and also you have a poche space but the real problem that someone goes unnoticed is let's say this marathon worked everybody did their their part you got to the child's house so the last person his job has taken the child into the house or he could vote that there's no head to pocket if you walk from robin to yorkied that's even less than the anonymous so when you get to the child's house the last person puts a child down in the last area of vashisha robin and then you have to beg convince push promise do whatever you want but make the child go and on his own there's no head there to carry him in even even one inch because from going from rapture i'm just saying there's no head so keep that in mind that that's something you have to you know be aware of what happens was a different situation it was only a husband and wife walking late at night they didn't have uh you know a whole team of people and they had just a manpower was two people him and his wife so here the the prima goddamn says you could do the same thing one walks down you walk side by side practically speaking you walk side by side with the other person carry less than six feet and the hand to the next person and that person walks his less than dollar armies has a sufficient if this is really reliable but if you look at the master shekel and raise time of cutting test he seems to go with this prima god mahalo so if there's no alternative of making many people if you're only you and another well let's say wife whatever then you could rely on it if you do it right but again when you get home don't be too quick to you know finish the job let the child walk into his house on his own what's interesting is if you only have one person walking the child so then that's the regular pachais parkas that's awesome test says if there's no other choice can't leave a child in the street so then it's possible so then he relies on that you carry the child less than the ramas and you put him down you don't have to you don't have to sit down you're making and then you go invite them and hopefully the child will get home and once he gets to the house he'll walk in on his own someone told me this is a true story it was a a vacation resort and a person thought there's an aide around the area and he walked out carrying a safer so of course they told them stop you can't carry no air from this area now he's standing in versus around holding a safer what do you do you can't drop it you can't drop the safer so the embassies they could have used the same aids get a lineup of people to carry pakistan but it's not practical because the last person how's going to get the safer from into the show to go from the occurred there's no aids of pakistan so what they did was they followed on a really interesting cool that they made on the autumn that allowed them to carry there but here you should know is another problem besides that it's you know the fact is that you can't get from there here it's not ahead of heinous but that's why this would not be a practical eight sum of porches i once saw something which we did use the aza an hour camp so originally the baseball field which next to the basement was not part of the aerith now some people didn't know that and they ended up there learning and walking the kumari they had more than once that a buck who walked into the baseball field walk around with this amara and they yell stop there's no air and then we had a sheila literally from left field mama's what do i do i'm standing basically without an aero and holding a good motor same side so you want to line up people and make pogres paches that's one aidsa but you have to get over the border so what i told them then was right now you're stationary in that's probably a caramelist certainly caramel is take off your jacket put it on the floor then you put your jacket on top of that so even though there's no doubt there's no tefl in between but you could rely on those sheets that as long as you're not putting it onto the ground so it's better than lining up people and you start you know something for eights's you're allowed to put your jacket down because you're the same it's just putting more on top of it and hopefully that would be you know respectable enough considering the situation question a person was a government you know you'd like to do things a little sticky like they say he's in his house we see ahid and he spots from his window there's a garbage can and his assumption was it's a small garbage can it's a mockingbird so he threw it from his house she's into the garbage can and he grabbed a made hit guy went in and his reasoning was that he didn't do anything from your head to a mokka and pature now he might be right but there are two problems first of all he might miss then it lands on there which is around him and that we don't take such chances not on the halogen shabbos but also you have to make sure that the garbage can is indeed a malcolm peter if la maisa it's with it's less than 10 it might take on the identity at least the area the airspace that it goes through might be like the ground itself you have to be careful that it's done right that the garbage can has the requirement of a mockumputer and then if he doesn't miss with the evidence okay but it shouldn't be done i once saw this shyla a person was walking in just a robin a very lively child and this type of house you don't have in our neighborhoods but it's common in most suburban areas there was a sort of like a a gate or actually it's more like ledges around there was just around the house so there was a a gate slash ledge that was the walls of but it was alleged that was in a pretty sizable amount the jaw the child jumped onto that ledge and then told the father take me off i guess he jumped now we're standing tall he's afraid to jump off so the father stood right by the child held the child and put him onto the ground thinking there's nothing wrong he didn't even move that he didn't move himself he just moved the child from the gate from the ledge to the street but that was probably shabbos their eyes because the mecha bench gimbal says a wall that make that surrounds abrasion and makes it has the dinner versus a gate or a ledge that surrounds which is a yuck and it makes so let's reanalyze what he's doing he's taking a child on angus and putting him on surround him he didn't carry the child but he certainly transferred the child from a vicious tourism similarly a person is standing in that near that home and he's talking and learning and he gets all you know got hot he's tired whatever he's talking learning he said oh let me just take up my hat let's you know get into the sugya so to put the hat down onto the street is okay i mean it might get dirty but it's okay it's robin to robin to put the hat down onto the ledge is they saw their eyes it's going from robin this is why we see again and again that the word carrying is misleading the word transmitting is a much better definition now let me tell you another big it's important to know especially success imagine you have two private yards that are back to back now i couldn't bring two yards in here but these two tissue boxes and if you're always listening to a tape you can make use your own tissue boxes are this is one this is a backyard and 46th street okay in our neighborhood and this is a backyard in 47th street that are back to back because the two the homes are the back yard next to the homes you have two backyards that are mama's back to back and each has their own gate okay and the boys in 46th street yard called yard one are playing ball and the ball goes over into the yard number two which is right next to it at 47th street and of course they want the ball back so they could yard too throw the ball over the gate or gates back into the yard where it came from or let's talk about a circus shield yard number one is short a few chairs for the sit in the circuit and yard number two has extra chairs can they hand chairs over the gate from your r2 to odd one so you're wondering what's the shield you know what i carry from her sister shoes this is private yard one private jar too you can't even carry from your house to the yard if you have a tenant because you have to make an aircraft serious how could you carry from yacht to yard without ever serious you can't carry again from a house to a yard or if you have an apartment you can't carry from your from apartment to a hallway without an aircraft service it's just a business how could you carry from it to another and here we come to an important cooler which is another one of the expressions of how you say it the issa of isa de rice is only from anything else is okay hazal said anything that looks similar even a caramelist is included in the issa that's why carrying from my private apartment to a joint hallway is awesome with the bonnet because it looks like you're carrying from a suspect carrying from a house to someone else's house which the police can use the term tashmi todd in other words you're carrying from my house to your house whoa that looks like carrying even though you're going from yoghurt to yogurt it's awesome sometimes people could have this they have homes in an hour but so close you could hand something from your kitchen to your neighbor's kitchen through the window what's the problem but it looks like you the mice you're transferring from distinctive to another two homes it is a real transfer this this alif but from there's nothing so because it's it's so similar it doesn't look like you're making any big changes house to house again that's serious but from there's no issa even midair bonan even if he didn't make an heir of haters and that's what mr burr explains but the only prerequisite is you allow to carry something that was in the khatta before shabbos so it's kind of there so therefore the chairs that were in yard number two before shabbos you could pass over the gate without er serious and you're fine the ball you have to know if the ball was in the arab shop it's fine say my luck if the ball was in the house arab shabbos that is interesting the p and it's a one family house you could carry from the house to the yard fine it's all one resource but the throw the but that ball went to the other yachts so you can't throw it back to the original huts it has to be in the yard before shabbos came so this is another cool this is a hatter it's a heterogamer that from without any of her say rice is fine as long as the items are there before shabbos now sometimes you say but i want to carry all every item even what was in the house you want to borrow something from his kitchen fine you have another eight sun simple eights and that's called making a er race before shabbos you're allowed to join two different yards now this is all clear in so recommend that one should always make an effect serious just in case he has to end up carrying on shabbos now obviously i don't really need an aircraft say rice because i could carry the ball in the chair true but you might want an item that was in the house before shabbos and then in fact you have a problem so basically this is why the chairs and the ball are par basically the next question is extremely nageya and was even more negaya like the one during the covet situation people have porches that are side by side for 54 15 47 and 15 49 very close by can i hand from my porch to my neighbor's porch without an aircraft series now you're wondering what's the sheila i can't hand from my house to my neighbor that on air would push it even though that went on so here becomes a very fascinating question how would you classify how you characterize a porch a typical approach in our neighborhood is not enclosed it's unenclosed open how would you describe a porch is a porch like one of the rooms of the house so then i can't pass from my kitchen to my neighbor's kitchen i can't pass on porch to porch but if the porch is outdoors and it's not enclosed it's open maybe it's like a hotsam is without an earth so i found in the safe in the siva shabbos is who said that it depends he says an enclosed porch that has a roof on the top that is is like one of the rooms of the house and you can't carry from porch to the porch but our porches typically are open that's like a khatsa and you could pair some hots and you could pair some porch to the porch that's her castle worth right in his base time on a banker boy himself had a pick book and he said that even a open porch that we have is one of the rooms of the home roy bazaar you can't pass from porch to porch now it's likely that it really depends in the social conditions of that particular area inherit israel that there are small homes and a porch is every bit of room is used maybe the porch of an inert swirl is like one of the rooms but if someone knows that his porch is not one of the rooms of the house and he doesn't consider it that he considers an outdoor porch and he feels confident to say that that's considered a hudson in his way of use then we can understand that he could carry from porch to porch the truth is the same shiloh comes up you made a broken in your house and you want to go and continue with the bracha onto the front porch onto the pump sorry the porch the upstairs porch is that considered going or wait a minute it's not on the ganger so maybe a porch an outdoor porch is like a hotshot and going from baies to hots it might be it's probably totally in that shiloh plus the fact you have to know them but see us but if you say my porch is mama's like a room you know some people put a mezuzah going out to the porch because that's considered the room of the house if it's the rule of the house then you can't carry from porch to porch but you see how one one simple yadia gets us a lot of mileage so to speak i once had the shyla and i think it's it's a mitsubishi it might be nigeria there are people that were living let's say homes two homes side by side 1547 and 1549. now 1549 was making a shabbat simcha and 1547 went away for shabbos so the the family of of the balsamic state in 1547 family with children and they wanted to carry the baby and everything from the home they're staying to the their parents home so great you're making their series you could do that the problem was that there was no access to go from 1547 to 1549 you couldn't unless you climb over the gate but you could there's no door in between the two yards you have to go out and come around so based on a bacharab and shinai and bay steve dalid even an er series only works to make it into one yard but if you have two yards side by side and one gate in between very typical in borough park but there's no access from your rtr you can't call that one every there's any of their hair you don't make it into one so then everything won't help because you can't say it's one so what we did was what the mecha gives these eights and today is very practical it's a wonderful practice solution it has different names a construction ladder or a utility ladder or a double ladder they make a ladder that that people you know handymen use that folds in different ways them it seems that i saw it it's amazing it falls over the gate so it's a ladder that goes up and down so you put a ladder on the gate so the ladder goes up partially it doesn't go so high like when you're painting out up and down what's the mailer if you make access from house to house for that job this is good enough if you want to take off open the gate and take off the the chicken fence around it's also good but this is much more practical so you put on a this utility ladder over the gate and once you have access you could carry from bias to bias with the airfrazzers so someone said wait a second why do you have to come on to this gansa meister of utility ladder we said you allowed to carry from ghats to without any service the answer is very positive you can't leave your children in the khatsa venash moshes you the children are in the house you want to carry from the house 1547 to 1549. oh so then the eighth of khatta khatsu will not work unless you have an air of katsaires so you learn a little bit and you apply a little bit then you're okay let me tell you a beautiful yeshiva shisha island they want the cold soda on shabbos there wasn't a room refrigerator so either they they put the soda on a window ledge that was in a dorm a few flights up or a little more you see this they put the soda in a bag and attach the bag to the with the window knob and it was hanging out the window and cold weather the soda was cold now the problem is in both cases the soda is an airspace above rishi sarabham because the yeshiva is but the sheet right out of the shiva door is resistant so the question is can you put an item on your window or hang it out the window which is in the airspace of vishu sarabham is that a transverse liberation so this is an easy shiloh because the mahabharata says wishes does not go indefinitely but la maila miyasara but typically airspace of karmalis or versus arabic you could put the soda any place because it whatever you whatever you're putting it on is air space which is carb which is a mockingbirth from robin to calm thor is good but there's two problems first of all if it falls down and hits someone that's problematic but even if all them doesn't hit anybody here we have a machab because in shindung gimbal is this very case not about soda but he has a because right now everything is fine but what's going to happen if you put your your safer on the windowsill because you're going to whatever you're going to want to air it out and it falls down so you're going to run down and retrieve it and bring it into the house and without then you're going to carry from robin to york so the makhaba says if you put a vaz on that ledge and when it falls down it breaks there's nothing to retrieve so you're okay because it falls down it shines it's too late but an item that will not break and you will retrieve it you now have to put it on the first place it might fall down and you'll carry it without knowing so i was thinking this is not much the case of the soda if i don't know what happens the soda falls if attack a burst then you're okay if it doesn't then you have this macabre you know to put it under on the window it might fall down and not break now maybe if you really want to remastic a little bit if the bag is attached and it can't fall the mechanic says if you put something on a ledge that's very wide and can and won't fall there's no zoho zero it's only something that is a kashash but something that has a nice surface area it's not going to fall but the truth is these bags rip after a while you don't know for sure but one thing i will say that what the mechabah himself said that's the bialock explains it let's say you're in the same you see the dormitory building but below is not rishi sarabham is a cameraless so in the worst scenario it falls onto a camera and the person will retrieve it from a karmalist to a we should say to only this through upon them only it still is there a bonnet but ghazal didn't make this gizara from a carmelist to russia so if the shiva is situated outside of the sheep as a carmelite then you have that hector someone told me he wanted a i think he did it he's going to scare his sister i think a sibling he took a valuable island and stuck it out the window if you don't behave i'm going to drop it so besides the iss of i know because the place to shine and say i know it's loved after but i'm causing terrorism the riser but this is mama's our case you can't do that because if he drops it and i'll go retrieve it then he's going to carry so this is including the same kazaria you know i'll do that if he drops time and it breaks so then he's a magic also but then it might be much at least the scary at least the height saw part but basically you have to find different ways of spending your shabbos when i know it's devour my magic and so but it's amazing how hazal was so focused how they made kazarus putting something on a head to gum it might fall and you might carry without knowing it reminds us of what we're coming to we lost three minutes of your courage because of you might carry the midst of shayifa and shabbos lula van chavis mcgill and arizona all because of akasha the very big surgery i want to mention just a little bit that we could enjoy because we we worked on it is the big sugar of a person that doesn't realize until it's too late and he's carrying something on person on english's rob or a camelot in other words he went out he didn't check his pocket he's over on that dinner gamora in daffodils he should have checked and brisked his quota saying maybe the iss of i saw you could say it's not his fault but he's over on the issue of not checking his pockets before he walked out at the saraba and the police can say if you put things in your pocket on shabbos then you have to check your pockets before you go out on travis also it's only logical the kits are what he should have done is checked his pocket but the mice he's walking in the street carrying an item what should he do so the truth is that behind the amri inchi the vel says keep on going now that's not true it doesn't make sense what does that mean just walk a whole shabbos keep on going so what they felt means to say probably is if you see in your vicinity a mocking pature a valve much impatient then walk to the marketplace and deposit around the mockingbird what'd you gain think about it you didn't make hanukkah because of the making tourism the walking till now farfallen walking to the market less than so if you keep on walking within down arms and find the it's your lucky day but the question is to keep on going more than dalaramis so that itself is going down an ambush surrounding so this basically what's probably the best aids is just drop it make an anoka with the scenery if it's in your pocket so pick up your jacket invert your jacket make it an that is not a perfect hectare because you're making but it's a now some people say keep on going back to the house where you came from it's also not perfect what's the mile going back to the house think about what you did is you went from your head but you said robin but at least you're not going to make an anachron by putting it in the street so both aces are still problematic the best date is to check your pockets of course before you go out but what people say keep on going makes no sense now where it does make sense is if keep on going means realize as you're going that you don't know what to do so you keep on walking make a compass in your dalaramis keep on orbit you know circling in your dalaramis that you could keep on going as long as you have kaijus because if you stay in your dalaramis there's no so but that's not very practical because you have to go to school you have to go home you can't just walk around in dalaran you probably get arrested after a while walking back and forth in the street it's only a stalling tactic that gives you some time to think but it's not an eight sum that works because you can't do that a whole day but to keep on walking down amazon more is definitely wrong now this again gives you more time to think but much better would be to check your pockets what i once heard this shia lab also a beautiful shiloh someone was carrying gloves he wears gloves robin that was his minigo maybe it's very cold that's not the question he wears he has gloves and he put in his pocket and sure he went out and forgot to put them on he's walking and he's carrying gloves so the truth is that he thinks oh i have a great idea i'll just put them on because i'm going to surround him gloves are just a robin that's where they belong that's the mukham of you're walking with them in your pocket that's not a ma but putting the on where they belong that's their their mocking and hazard says as well in kuffei putting on a yamaka if you don't have yam canal yeah and put it on is that what he should have done was as he's walking drop them invert the package wrap them but there are then after they're on which is around them then you could pick them up and put them on and walk away why because then it's going from rabbim to robin vita it's not there's no more than an but this whole schmooze of putting their minds only when they're when they're on the ground behead then you'll have to pick them up also the whole smooth that we said till now of continue going and all that is only if you didn't stop if someone stopped and say i said what should i do oh go to my computer that might work but everything else doesn't work once you stopped you made it so why do anything knowingly so a person has to know that he should check his pockets while he goes out either invert it make a shiny or as we said to to go until there is just a yakid i want to leave you just with our aura because it's really a different share but it's very much our sugar so it's really part of to mention someone was in a public park and he surveyed the area you know how to carry in this park some parks have a gate around them some hamisha parks have aer venomous and in brene brock they have an ave around it but this is no area of no it's not a carry in this park a child jumped on one of these big swings and the child tells the father push me push me i want you to push me and this is again a swing that it goes more than balaramas from one side to the other it goes an area of diarrhomas if you're not a carry in the park can you push a child's on the swing in this park and you think about it it's somewhat of a brain teaser because the child is moving down because you are pushing and pushing is one form of akira and havarum but then again he's attached to the swing attached to the top so you know what this is like what happens all the time we have mazel you have a front door that goes into your private uh front yard and on shop is the grayish delivery person puts either newspaper or a flyer or advertisement and they put it into your gate okay now part of it's in mr robin and parvus so if your door opens into the street you're moving this half from your head into seraphim if your door goes into which is a yakrid you're moving this part from raven to york same shiloh you're moving something that's attached and the third question you have to think about is you put a key the old member keys the shabbos the achabaski's tie clips or belts you put the key into the door so far you didn't move and then you push the door into which is a yakid so you're moving the key from robin to your head but it was all part of a door so you have three case that you're moving something significantly but it's attached that i saw or not i couldn't talk to you all i know that's the next time shane again eight five one eight six five one i like to remind you i love them that the shoe made appeal for nail armor for the smoky air conditioning electricity over the summer foreign [Music] uh [Music]