Mr Michael Cohen - "Chinuch The Way You Have Never Imagined It"

somebody somebody once said we don't need no education that person was clearly not our next speaker of course the way to find out that speaker is Google and googling Michael Pollan brings up 221 millions results yes incredibly the first one is Michael phone unfortunately Donald Trump's all the way of Michael Chodos which means Amazon unable to join us this evening I've been all seriousness we are very fortunate that we did not within our circles we have somebody as passionate of both on a math education and our guest speaker tonight he's been in education since the age of five and has made great strides since then his last position was headed Northwest London Jewish day school and then he became principal of what was then the largest to school in the world in Melbourne he then became director of the London Fog Jewish education running in setting up many schools within the US framework he was an innovator in Europe establishing family with long before seat Daniel age and taken a foothold in the land of the Jewish community recently though one of his key focuses has been fighting off steps to ensure that we continue to have religious freedoms within our curriculums I don't think that is a serious threat to Jewish education throughout the UK he gives me great great pleasure Thomas Michael Cohen to speak [Music] thank those responsible for inviting me to join you participate in the Sims I understand though their name 11 multiple Aesir and then I'm very honored we've been asked to find those medals is a shoo-in domestic robot who invited me one person particularly I want to share with you some of the more interesting and probably not so well known aspects of a long career in education let me start off by saying that I was one of the very fortunate he unstirred to actually wait to a Jewish school primary and secondary at the time when it was not fashionable to do so I was one of the glittering tinkles oh here leave the school he's off London where my parents lived we grew up and I want to say people say that the best days of your life are your school days well I endorsed a because I had a French tastic fantastic time school in no match but it was wonderful and I always said it was the clothes I ever got to a Jewish customs holiday cap it was absolutely tremendous the spirits the atmosphere the activities outside of the classroom fantastic and I want to share with you one interesting story the school started by a well-known rabbi rabbi dr. Solomon contrary they've been studying the rock a remarkable man was we won't know who's famous for these rescue activities during and after the war personally being involved in the saving of more than 3,500 you I need to have schools why which was giving the school those of you who knew him will remember a man who never took no for an answer he wasn't concerned about all thority parties concerned he was authority he ran his school's like that and one ounce of the Aveda Grammar School he appointed a gentleman called mr. Christmas as the hit master mr. crystal was a former major in the British Army not from a Jewish but have very little connection we he disguised the purpose of the Poynting mr. crystal was and dr. shamrock woody to create a Jewish Eton and to do that he had to have high standards in America and mr. crystal was brought in in order to achieve that and he was a man having grown up in the Army was a disciplinarian second to none one going to the story of what happened but dr. Shawn fell the mr. crystal fell out - thief said that mister dr. Shawn a one day simply stacked mr. principal dr. Chantal he couldn't do that because the school was part of the state system and although the dr. Shawn thought is the principal of the school he really didn't have the authority to sack a state employee and so he eventually went to court - into High Court actually but that's what I want everybody I want to tell you about a morning when I was 14 years old and I walked to school which is five minutes away and standing outside the school I noticed a number of our pupils as I approached the head boy a boy called David Miller in big work came running up to me and he said are you thought were erased crystal just like that well of course when a Jewish person is wood gets a question like that it immediately asks the question back and so I wasn't sure what the purpose of what was going on there so I said well then what difference does it make and he said well if you're for crystal we're on strike Oh what does that mean we're not going into school we're out here and we're not going into school what are you needed well let me ask you ladies and gentlemen you're a 14 year old boy that is given the opportunity are not going to spoon and say outside or going into school what you are sir I said I'm for crystal right Stan here and I had a minor everybody else within half-an-hour the newspaper reporters are up front gates with a photographer taking pictures of all of us the staff as they arrived told everybody to get into school and David Miller was saying don't listen to him he pay him and this way Donna we all after the event not quite sure where this leading to the staff went back in school and the crowd at the front was now nearly a hundred there are a hundred pupils out there being taken photograph by the newspapers which ended up by the way Nolan who have because it on the front page but the major arts gone about school on strike so I had a day off next day we all had to go back to school and the register was taken and each teacher would say where were you yesterday now if there would have been an innocence in that time I think one of the insertions would it be the local dentist has a record of having seen more than a hundred pupils in one day amazingly all from the same school that was the story of the Invicta school strike with to my memory has never been that repeated so if any of you hear of governors of schools you might want to bear in mind this can happen on your patch I began my career as a lawyer believe it or not I started off the legal profession and I do a decision it might make twins is very late point is actually four o'clock I believe it was that time in order to move out of law now that was a stupid decision from a financial point of view especially when I decided going to penal but I'll tell you something looking on that career it was the best decision I've made in my life I know there was some lawyer sitting here and I don't want in any way didn't mean the tremendous work that you people do I think it's a great profession but he just wasn't for Michael Cote I decided I wanted something a little bit more interesting unusual in advance I have a young brother who's a lawyer as you know and I think in my time it wasn't easy to be a lawyer and work as a front unit today it's a lot easier most of the interviews I had a lawyer as a perspective lawyer as soon as I mentioned that I need Friday afternoons off so that was the end of the interview it was no job and that went off from place to place to place today you couldn't get away with that but he might go that's the way it worked so I ended up in a very small firms in the West End not very exciting until I decided the legal profession will manage without me most Shabbos is a time when people normally tell stories because I want to share with you some of the most interesting some of the interesting stories that occurred to me in my own pinup career in 1975 I was invited to go to multiple sperm yo there is my wins was because I gave you a free ticket and I thought when else would I get a chance to visit Asperger for nothing having no intention of ever settling there I was headhunted by get alone was like saying this but he happened to be the principal at the time or what was then the largest Jewish school in the world famous Mount Scopus memorial college which at that time had 2400 students going from the ages of 320 enormous complex never seen anything like it in my life and I went there I would tell you I'm regaining the stories of that alone I wanted to tell you one thing what fascinates was I spent a few days having a look at the place because I have to be sure that my family and I and the only family I had at that time was this little six months old re and he spent his first five years about a half years if you like almost out years in his home he's got one is how to cook sigh so what fascinated me was and as I went around Melbourne looking at the Jewish facilities I was amazed that a place like Mullen had so many Jewish schools what I inquired as to the percentage of children from Melbourne Jewish children went to Jewish schools I'm talking about ladies and gentlemen nineteen seventy five eighty two percent of all Jewish children in Melbourne went to Jewish schools in London in Britain at that time we were somewhere between 25 and 30 percent this shocked me if anything I saw once per day that absolutely bowled me over it was just the numbers of children went to do schools and then I began to take furthers to why and I discovered what Melbourne was built by Holocaust survivors people who have escaped urine came to Australia and decided that they were going to defeat Hitler in their own way and that was by building up Jewish life and they realized from day one there is no Jewish life no Jewish teacher understand Jewish education and Sunday look schools one of which was my understudy and as I got to know the school better when we went back and we were there for five years looking at the registers it was amazing how many surname with sheep oh sheesh and as I got to know the parents better their own experiences of Europe have made them so determined the Jewish education was going to be for their children and so they sent their children drones in droves my school had 2400 as a school in the center of Melbourne 1200 they even had a Shalom Aleichem school Bank you've ever heard about the school where they're only teaching Yiddish and not one single pupil is proof it was a cultural school they wanted to preserve what Hitler destroyed in Poland the only Jewish school I know that was open on Yom Kippur they didn't keep anything nothing religious but they wanted a Jewish identity so that open was called a Shalom Aleichem school teacher we know Sholem Aleichem boss a famous writer poet but this was my beginning of opening my eyes to a Jewish educational world one of the most probably the most fascinating experience that I had was opening a school in Budapest I was invited by some Americans to help them to open the first Jewish school in Budapest since the war you probably realize Hungary was the last country the Germans entered February 1944 virtually when the war was virtually coming to an end and they were going to lose but they decided their determination to wipe out European curing was such they didn't care and so in February 44 till October 44 they managed to exterminate thousand years from hungary in a space few months which is half the population of Hungary at the time when the Russians took over would invest which they did and carried on until past 56 I'm Garen rising and then of course they came to 88 the Berlin wall collapsed and the Russian Empire collapsed and suddenly the Eastern European world seemed to be free and people could begin to express themselves and one of the first things that happened was Americans decided to see what they could do to try and really divide some Jewish life hungry the swollen river President Abbas father was very much instrumental in bringing together a group of people one of those in order to try and develop the spoon hunting which we did again but this is weeks and weeks of stories but I'm going to share with you just a couple of stories hopefully the school open on the 3rd of December 1990 the 3rd of September 1990 we have no idea how many children I was responsible school putting together the numbers runes the famous arrival and family where we think of mangry aboard the building and mr. Aikman said to me remark when Albert was the nicest people you could meet you say to me Michael is it how many people do need to open a school I said if you get 50 we're in business it's fine there's the money not to me there's the money you've got it open do what you need to do I've got teachers from Israel I got materials I got building really we've got everything ready for 50 kids in those in those days because of the communist regime and nobody nobody applied didn't say that besides anything in Hungary in those days he just waited we put a notice in the newspaper that said the jury school will be opening on the 3rd of December the 3rd of September 1919 any boy or girl between the age of 5 and 15 please come at half past eight on that day I stood on the door waiting to see who would turn up ladies and gentlemen 456 children turned up on that day 456 they were like ants coming out of ankles you saw them just coming to the school remember the vast majority were already absolute deviator to 5 meters deep why are they came is another story tell you about that another time but while I'll tell you this we have major how elastic problems because we didn't know who was Jewish she wasn't Jewish we were only chakras services oh well they do it well they don't I don't know mercy that's another issue what didn't she didn't know what to do so my very good colleague Moskowitz a school on a hustle in New York went with me to see her shop went to play Brock and we have an appointment to Singlish after August I was very nervous we single no we came into this room and this little man the couple was almost as big as him he was sitting at our table a rickety table and all collar table was once a firm and a bowl of fruit with some grapes and a couple of apples and nothing turn orange and he sat there remember picture of the thick black glasses and we walked in and sat down for a pretend show a malaysian sit down we sat down photographers applause snappy or you know make sure you've all got your momenta and noise my colleague explains in our problems and he said we have a school in Hungary which we opened it's my amazement he knew abandoned and he went on to explain our ha laughing problems what do we do do these boys butcher Finley nom we don't know if they're Jewish can we count them for a minion all the sorts of issues that nobody thinks about now normally we have thrown rough just closed his eyes and there was silence now I thought peg dropped off the sink because it seemed to me it's burning we went decision I'm not doing myself I'm looking at this little man I suppose - waiting and waiting I didn't know what to do that's Robbie safety wait wait wait actually opened his eyes and he turned around he said something I could not believe it you turn around and he said the following seven years prosecuting which he said any boy or girl who claims that they're Jewish you accept them as Jewish in five years time we will look at this again it's a matter of a 93 he also that's exactly was destroyed with a shot so we start in school early right populace one of the problems we had was was the prison we started teaching them houses we came to the story of Chris Miller and the teachers told them quite honestly city if you don't have a bris I'm not really Jewish not funny I knew what the outcome would be there would be silicon boys who might want to have priests so we decided that the leadership in the school that anybody who went to the bris we would organize it for them as long as they get their parents permission that means a written letter confirming they agreed that we can start any OS at Bristol and that's what happens any boy brought back a letter signed by the parents a week ago cannot be pretty Stern probably he would come over every so often he would do most conversing with you like one little boy came to me was eleven years old and he said to me mr. Cohen I would like to have a bris lovely I said them it's a letter you take it home send your parents and get them to sign it and then leave it to us with organize it this boy was a single child lived in a small flats not far from the school he came home and he shows us a letter to his father daddy I would like the priest could you sign it sighing a bris please daddy I want to have a bris no not sign your Kris why not just that you know what happens to choose what is he the German state how do I know who's Jewish I'm gonna let you have a bris no we're not myself not at all oh please please please let me pick a stylist it's on signal it comes back the next day same thing leaves his father please dad he let me have a grace yep I told you yesterday there's no bridge don't talk about it this kid eleven years old he wouldn't give it and it was history to the extent that the father lost his temper and his Schmeiser said don't you talk to me again about this and it really is right he came to school the next day with marks on his face I saw it I knew they would all die sentence in for accent yes I fell down it was predicting his father people in back home built the mother was a softie and she said to her father to the husband Lenny memories go on he wants it I'm linking my son's gonna go around for if his life identify the Jew no way it wouldn't give up this went on my riper up his side to six weeks the King was beaten black and blue and every day he would come back to the mother and father and beg and beg and beg and each day the father would beat him more I went to the school row I didn't know what to do there also don't interfere you've got to see what how this plays out don't interfere and he hurt me to see this big come to school every day like it be not going by car something one day he comes back he goes home he asks the father contacted me he says I'm highly after here you want me to sign your letter I'll sign it he signs a letter and the mother signs it turns around for father and he says daddy thank you but one thing please have a bris with me he smashes people don't you dare talk to me like that and the key was not he's done he kept on and on and on begging his father's everything the father said to the mother I can't anymore he's driving me mad in the end what happened father wrote and he said okay don't say I didn't warn you you want to breathe how breathe you want me to come with you I'll go with you two of them fighting closely and both of them went to the hospital and they both had their breasts but they're after the bris I go to the hospital to visit and I see the boy in the bed looking or coach everything was fine next to the big gym was his father but he knows it's all because I met the father son system this is my father the father calls me obesity must have come in person yes he says I want to say something to you what I wanna thank you thank me thank me for what thank you for what you've done for my son and for me I don't know what happened but I feel a different person I just feel a different person and it's thanks to you nicely not thanks to me you think this little kid next to you a remarkable little child when he suffered and went through to get this bris not many boys are done man you have a gym treasure it don't leave it alone enough because I've got a limited amount of time I can't want to too many stories but I'll tell you another question another story very quickly the Budapest story hit the headlines in many newspapers all over the world begin Israel the prisoners of Israel had about it it was a presentation on behalf of the stove etc and a community proud heard about the intern got in touch with me and said I understand you open to school in Budapest would you open a school in Prague I said possibly a window bra I mixed some people from Prague and I began to talk to them I knew nothing about brah except it was much smaller a few thousand look like what a test or 2% sixty thousand gents at that time it's a small three four thousand so I began to ask questions are you sure you really want to school how many children have you got whether they come from what kind of Jewish life just ask a multitude of questions after half an hour a lady in the group system excuse me mister can I ask you a question I said yes this is you've asked all these questions that you haven't asked the right questions it was our thinking I know about education there was this lady didn't tell me I wasn't even asking the right question so I said so madam with very respect what is the right question she said the right question is how could it be that you can't have a Jewish school in your town Wow she already looked way it's not possible for proud to survive Jewishly without a Jewish school there's no question we have double Jewish school how about you ask that question why are you Trevor do school but after well you know this and you afford it etc and this woman taught me an important lesson sometimes we educate system to realize after more important questions are being asked by the others what I makes the community I ran a three-day seminar to try to help them understand about Judaism and Jewish education there were about 50 people who turned up I would say that 48 of them were probably between the ages of 16 and maybe 35 there were two elderly people that are husband and wife and are they fascinating me because I never saw any old people in Prague it'll be wiped out and yet these two were they clearly their seventies maybe at the end of these seminar I wake up to them and I used to use myself and they introduced them to me and I said you don't mind me asking we see that you are enough when nobody of your contemporaries idea she says yes they will be killed well how did you survive this is our world we survived in the most amazing way because of Jewish education because the Jewish education you survive tell me when the dirt Germans opens races that the concentration camp an hour away from Prague they wanted this to be the concentration camp that would be an example for the whole world of how good the Germans are to the Jews so this was going to be a camp that the Red Cross will visit and would therefore go back and so these stories about extermination hitting brutality and on truth we've just been to one a model place so they opened the zoo in tourism that for children probably the only school rather the her governor concentration yeah we actually function as a school they needed teachers and this couple were chosen to be the teachers of the school now as I were telling me this story my eyes were watering because I thought it was an amazing thing they survived survive in coz-theta one teaches then they started to say to me I accept what was it like can you imagine them your teachers to code when you walk into a classroom every day do you know your children you have a register sure you take the register sure we don't we never did you know why because we never knew which to that day just disappeared okay so every day they just filled up with a few more children we never got to know that showed the results because they were never the same show and we went to that experience for four years never knowing who was going to turn up or what so here with people Jewish education was being carried on in the most unbelievable circumstances and it moves one more place to fly finishing I received a phone call from a gentleman called rabbi shmuel community no relation to the willkommen SP the wrong in America he was a very severe in a place called denier proper trust which is in Ukraine he heard about were the best known about Prague and said to me we have a school but we need guidance and help could you some alone now but look we didn't maps see what you can do to help us get on a plane change of Vienna with an improper scoff intervening every myself I got there and this is the story I must just share with you you've gone on a plane in Vienna little plane 20 seats no more and this plane is diverse with may flies over goes into Russia and these suddenly the announcement of the plane is we are about to land look out the window I can't see a building for miles and we're going to land or what I can see is miles and miles and miles of snow and the plain flames no fiddling no way and there are - for the other people on a plane and we paint stops take out the little another and off we go down how about 3/4 the way the cube and as we go down I see at the bottom of the ladder of this sort of steps - very very strong soldiers with guns and in the middle between them is this very large very large Russian bleeding with boots and a contrary unit and I'm looking at them and I'm thinking it doesn't look good doesn't look good enough they got worse I come down the stairs and it's the bottom the lady walks old and she says this my boy yes come and she turns around and the two dogs go behind me and they march me off but in the opposite direction to everybody else so everybody else is going one way with us know that to wear and I'm going this way goodness knows to wear because I don't see a building now if you've ever been in a situation where you really are petrified this was it I really thought the end had come you hear about stories people go and they never see the name and I'm walking behind these fat ladies with these two girls with guns and we're walking a little way we're walking and I'm thinking you know what all right things I've done wrong no chance to do this I mean your life goes in front of you and we're walking and I'm looking back and I'm seeing the other people further and further in the distance and I'm on my own with these three very unfriendly looking people with guns and we go to this and I'm shaking like anything and then I see this is fantastic [Music] he said all the others have gone there and I've got to go through all the documentation and you don't borrow you come with me Falcone has got a very good name in India prophet Ross and he was allowed to go through and to take me all the way through that was one of the most horrible moments of my life we've turned out to be actually quite quite interesting the school itself was fast because Denis Robert Scott is an unbelievably cool face I actually walked over dead bodies in the streets as I was walking doing this I shouldn't have some people died on the streets out of starvation cold nobody burial they just lay there until somebody eventually would pick him up and it was it was awful they put in it what would you say tell up and believe it it was a lovely hotel it was warm big electricity very very well and but I came to school and I discovered to my surprise there were a few hundred children in the school a few hundred children in a Jerusalem so I say to me I said with these children will open people this is absolutely I said something have you got so many children mazes you know how come here he takes me into the dining room where the kids are having breakfast every peep there is in the net 400 500 of them eating breakfast like I've never seen to it in their lives you see this this is repeated at lunch this is the where they have their supper they come because they hear they can eat food they wanted to learn so the school has to provide food medicines clothes holidays everything provides everything for them when I went to Shuba next morning going to the shoe forty men men I'm sure for the 40 million that wasn't the front man amongst them here they came against it why kiss look have a look in every room see as the breakfast laid out for them that's why they come they come to the breakfast and that's what kept them going and this spoon provides the what we consider the most ridiculous necessities life the only thing medicine this management companies he was constantly sharing money and every time we try to have a conversation as a knock at the door and somebody standing there please rabbi I need money for need money for this I need money for that it was affecting to see and that's what this man was doing let me finish let me finish with one final story I go back to Hungary it's a story that actually was picked up by a piece of perennial in one of his books and when micro-firm me because he wanted to confirm it I told you the story he put it in one of his books it's a interesting story because it concerns a family of one boy who came to our school in September 1990 we started of two weeks before Hashanah three months later stunning girls we have to teach the children very quickly everything but never seen a suit good anything that it seemed to know was the Jews don't eat oh that was the one thing they seem to identify as being Jewish everything else shadows they didn't really know about Cassius they didn't know about and all the other young surgeon was not a hired nurse there and we came to Hanukkah and I'm excited every night of Hanukkah we would invite the parents for honeycomb it and we have a little more super and one on the other Tuesday evening I make an announcement that all the parents of the year for seven year olds eight year olds what it was well they please say the Highland black have a short meeting with them fine about 30 parents congregated in a room and sat down and I said to them I'd be very interested to know why you sent your children to this school they've all been another source why do you send your child to this school I'm giving out a piece of paper and a pencil and please write down what you have written we worried that what you read in a few minutes I went down the road why did you send your chances toward us into the first person he said well the school my child was at was very anxious submitting and I heard it was good school and I wanted my job to be amongst Jews sound announcer second one I learned standing we're going to be very good in secular I want my son to draw me want to be a doctor and I'm hoping it mean America so I'd like you to have good education we were family the oldest man in the room was a man in his fifties came to him I said well sir what have you written said mr. kind I've written and nothing why why I sent my child to the school I can't write I sent to make your story I said well are you ready to tell us he said I'll try this is what he told me of this in 1944 I was a kid of seven and my parents and I we knew what was going on they were rounding up whether they procedures that were simply rounding them up and taking them to the station and off they were going to house words so people were very very rarely ventured out if there were Jewish one night in my room and I'm hearing a conversation going on in the future between my parents and the Mallory saints at the Father what are we going to do if the Germans find out with Jewish will be taken away what will happen to our son it's etc and both the pilot didn't have an answer then after a few minutes the boys miss Nicholas and they don't know he sees they're outside the door in something the father says just to say yes to say what are you getting so upset about if the Germans come all tinnitus non-jewish anything he'd approve which your well that we good Catholics and hopefully they leave us alone the mother turned and said ah but what about this and she said she climbs up the chair goes to a cupboard opens of government and peeps out a book and she says to her husband but what happens if they find this what is it what is he this is a sinner sinner we do get a sinner from this season was given to me by my mother the day we got married as a wedding present and she got it from her mother on the day she got married and her grandmother got it accept etc every wedding in the family received the sticker and that's why I got it the father says what Germans find the sitter with finished the woman takes the sitter in her hand and she standing next to a fire and she throws the sinner in the fire that built finished the little boy is watching this to a cracking the door he doesn't understand what it's all about but what he does know something terrible has happened he goes into his room throws himself on the bed and cries he cries and cries this is the father telling the story to us fifty years later he says the father telling all of us I see baby notice in the newspaper and he says there's going to be a Jewish school so I decided I'm going to send my child to this school and then he look so many says mr. Cohen do you know why because in this school my child will get sit up we will break down in tears it was a very moving story let me finish if I might just leave a message I lots and lots of different things have happened to me but I've learned a number of very important lessons which I like to just share with you very briefly firstly if you want to get into education or anybody listening profession there's an element of mysteriously nefesh which might even go way way beyond anything else most people that were sort of sniffers then do it to themselves we are hunters or when you are teaching children you're doing it for somebody else for children there's a mercenary which goes beyond the norm of the sales message secondly Jewish education is not a quick fix job it's a very very slow tortuous sometimes numbing process of working a bit by bit by bit I've given the following explanation for you the word phenol as at the matriarch of 84 which is exactly the same material as Duff Duff is a page because hilf is about one thing and then another page and then another we know things are killing me another page and another thing you don't educate children in heal overnight it's years and years of slow grinding tortuous work and that's the only way it works 80 pages go in to school thinking they're gonna train you overnight they're gonna be extremely disappointed it's slow progress and the final thing I'll say is and this is the message I'm sure all of you have children schools unfortunately unfortunately this is not the British phenomenon I've seen it happen all over the world there is a tendency amongst parents to always about what's wrong with Jewish education very rarely can we talk about what there's so much right with what's going on in Jewish education evening our own community and we don't see it we are so besotted with what's going wrong and what's not good and the complaints if us there are you're entitled to complain and you're entitled to bright if you have to and you're entitled to recommend and have concerns as long as you don't forget there's so much good going on that sometimes if you put the good next to it you think that's what we're complaining about this not even worth a look what's happening to my child it was Jewish children Megan you know it may not be the best in the world and I'm the first to admit from having traveled the world British education is not the best in Pinole that's the joy I was mentioning to the diner for there will never create in this country what I call a top school we just not cut out British people don't work that way we are always happy to be in the middle that's our style I would say if you know it's a room and there's a speaker and imagine every nationality is going to pick their seats where they're going to sit you know sits at the front the Americans always they go to the front room the front room but that's why they think that's what is my place you know sitting in the back the Japanese require little people they sit at the back British we're sort of in the middle that's it they owe me too far too far back when that's our style so we will never produce the great schools Jewish schools that are in the world it doesn't matter I'll tell you some if America to notice the best Jewish schools in the world there's a small percentage of the Muslim a ravishing I've seen around I can tell you that our schools by larger pretty good I can tell you that from experience yeah I've got my problem it all said I won't beat them don't worry we'll feed them will be that my show you in same time but we will not be there but our schools are still good and we should remember that ladies and gentlemen when you're sitting down here next Friday nights and you're Charles complaining you tell your child maybe share some of the stories you've heard tonight about children do so and have to go through to raising stats or Nazi Germany in order to get a Jewish education and if we can do that we will all grow out much more to Mississippi we will be happier and will feel that our children are actually getting a pretty good deal thank you for attention [Applause]