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There is something that can happen in
the world that will justify for us 2,000
years of torment? Is there even any
great goodness that can happen in the
world that will justify the death of one
child?
The death of one innocent person? The
torture of one Jewish woman or man? I
don't know of something like that. What?
Endless money? Endless food?
No shortage crisis? Tell me what exactly
can happen in our world that you and I
and anybody can look back and say, "Ah,
that's why we went through this. That's
why" And the answer is
there's nothing. You know why? Cuz we
completely don't even begin to grasp
what Messiah is.
>> The Yeshiva.net
>> [sighs]
>> Rabbi YOY Jacobson, thank you so much
for taking the time. I really appreciate
you being here with us today.
>> My honor, my pleasure. Thank you for
having me. This is one of my uh one of
my dreams was to sit across from you and
discuss Messiah. I've heard many of your
classes and let's just jump right into
it because
I'm starving for your knowledge. As they
say my circles, we want Messiah now. So,
let's not delay.
Let's let's get into it.
So, it seems that
whenever the idea of Messiah is brought
up,
it's almost like taboo. And I see
people's eyes start to wander as soon as
that subject comes up. Why is the idea
of Messiah something that is not
automatically accepted or even
understood for that matter within the
Jewish world?
>> It's a great question. I think there's
probably a few factors that I'm aware
of. There may be more, of course.
One issue is the trauma
and length of the Jewish exile.
The Jewish people have been expelled
from Israel 2,000 years ago with the
destruction of the second temple,
scattered all over the world, and have
suffered
significantly and acutely for two
millennia.
And
people are afraid of being disappointed.
You talk about Messiah, we're going to
be redeemed today, tomorrow,
next week.
Leave me alone. I'm trying to build my
life.
It's like somebody who's in a very
difficult situation. They don't want to
be let down again and again and again.
So, let's just stick to our comfort
zones. Even if it's not perfect, but
it's predictable.
We like the familiar. We don't like to
talk things that we're talk about things
we're not familiar with. That's number
one.
Number two,
and this is part of our tragedy is
what really makes trauma devastating is
that you think it's normal.
The great devastation of exile, of
alienation is that we become accustomed
to it.
It's like when somebody internally,
their heart is in jail, but they don't
know of anything else. So, jail
becomes the norm. And I'm here talking
about emotionally, psychologically,
spiritually.
There's another component and that has
been terrible events that we have
experienced throughout the Jewish exile
have been characters,
charlatans, or other characters who have
claimed that they were Messiahs, they
were the Messiahs,
and they created a massive hype, and
then the letdown was enormous and
catastrophic.
One of the most famous ones is a
character named Shabtai Zevi.
He lived in the 17th century.
Uh he died 1676 at the age of 50,
and he lived in the time of 1648-49
Khmelnytsky pogroms, Bogdan Khmelnytsky
murdered in Poland and Ukraine hundreds
of thousands of Jews.
What happened on October 7th in Israel
was a little little mini
picture of what happened 1648 and 49 and
they used the same methods.
The Cossacks
did devastation on a physical level, on
an emotional level was beyond. And here,
just a little few years later, this
fellow Shabbetai Zevi
arose
and he says, "I'm a Messiah." He had a
great PR man, a spokesman, a guy Nathan
from Gaza, from all places, Nathan from
Gaza. He's a brilliant spokesman and it
created such a hype. Now, Shabbetai Zevi
was a talented fellow. He was brilliant.
He was a mystic.
He had a spiritual touch and there was a
charisma about it.
And enormous enormous amounts of Jews
fell prey.
And then ultimately, he converts to
Islam
in 1666.
This new Messiah converts to Islam. He
was given a choice by the Sultan, death
or Islam. Can you imagine how Jews felt?
You're dealing here even with rabbis who
trusted him, sages who fell prey to his
powerful powerful charisma.
After that, [clears throat]
many of the leading rabbis became
suspicious of anybody or anything that
just spoke about things that can trigger
too much imagination, too many
fantasies. They realized we can't afford
another one of these events. Like let's
go with what we know. Let's study the
Torah, through the mitzvahs, follow
Jewish law. So, there's a certain
inertia
that has set into the Jewish world and
people start rolling their eyes, you
know, "What's this guy about?" You know,
"You want to talk about kugel? I'm fine.
You want to tell me a good vort, a nice
insight in Torah? I'm fine.
When you're talking about global
transformation, global change,
creating a new paradigm in the Jewish
world, creating a new universal
consciousness, I mean, Messiah is the
climax of history from a Jewish
perspective. Those are big words.
You know what I mean? Somebody sits down
for a business deal. He says, "You know
what? Invest with me and you know,
you'll get $200,000." Okay. Somebody
says, "No, you know, invest with me,
you're going to get $300 billion by next
Wednesday." It's like, you know, get
this meshuggener out of this meeting.
Like
It's very grand. It's very grand. So,
there's there's there's a suspicion
here. There's a cynicism here. Like, not
that again. I think those are some of
the factors.
>> So, you're saying that we don't want to
be let down and it's something that just
it's too grand
for us to
to bet on.
And we'd rather play safe.
>> Play safe safe safe bets.
>> Yeah. And study study study halacha.
>> Study what's Jewish law, study Torah,
raise your children with Judaism, have a
nice Shabbos tables.
>> Right.
>> She can make some money and give
charity, build communities, put up a new
building, build a nice school.
>> So, but where you have a
>> a nice, you know, summer vacation.
>> That we're in control of.
>> At the end of the day. We think we're in
control.
>> They think we're in control.
>> We think you know, I don't think we're
in control of much, but we think we're
in control.
It's things that we can wrap our brains
around.
>> But what about
other possible Messiahs? For example,
Rabbi Akiva thought that his
at the time it was Bar Kokhba who was
battling in the Roman Empire. He thought
that he could have been Messiah and he
also got let down. So, how do we
understand
who is Messiah and who is not Messiah?
>> Excellent question. You can't compare
Bar Kokhba to Shabbetai Zevi.
Rabbi Akiva, Maimonides makes this
clear. Rabbi Akiva did not make a
mistake. Rabbi Akiva was following
Jewish law.
And from the perspective of Jewish law,
Rabbi Akiva had the full right and
authority to assume Bar Kokhba would be
the Messiah.
Rabbi Akiva, it seems from Maimonides,
was not just making a mistake. And the
proof of that is Maimonides asks a
question.
Now I have to say Maimonides is
considered the greatest codifier of
Jewish law in our history. He lived in
the 12th century. He was born in Spain,
lived in Morocco,
Israel, and finally in Egypt. And there
he wrote his magnum opus called the
Mishneh Torah, which was
was considered and is considered the
greatest work and compilation of Jewish
law
in the history of Judaism.
He encompassed over there all the laws
of the Torah.
And one of the unique qualities of this
book is that he gives you a sweeping
review of law from the beginning of time
all the way till Messiah, including the
era of Messiah. The regular code of
Jewish law is limited to laws that we
practice today. Maimonides includes all
the laws from the times of the temple,
laws of sacrifices, ritual purity, and
impurity, including the laws that are
relevant to the future redemption
through Messiah.
So Maimonides asks a question. Will we
know that Messiah is Messiah by the
miracles he will perform?
And Maimonides says no, he doesn't have
to perform any miracles.
He says I'll prove it to you. Bar Kokhba
did not perform miracles. Bar Kokhba, of
course, is the name of a man, Shimon bar
Koziba,
who lived after the destruction of the
second temple and around 60 years after
the decimation of the second temple by
the Romans. He staged the revolt against
Rome. For a few years it was extremely
successful. This is around the year 132
after the common era. Approximately 6
decades after the destruction of the
second temple in the year 70.
And Rabbi Akiva, the Rambam says, "And
the sages of the generation, not just
Rabbi Akiva, most of the sages of the
generation believed that he was Messiah.
God has sent him to redeem the Jewish
people, to bring them back to the holy
land, to rebuild the third temple."
And he didn't do miracles. He was
extremely successful, extremely
successful. Rome was defeated like never
before. I did I believe two full legions
of Rome were wiped out. And it was
incredible victory.
But then, he was killed.
500,000 Jews were slain in Betar, also
on the 9th of Av. Bar Kokhba himself was
executed by the Romans. And the Rambam
says, "This meant that God did not
destine that he should be the Mashiach
in the time of the redemption." Meaning,
it was not the time. It wasn't that he
was a false Mashiach. He wasn't
deceiving. It's not that Rabbi Akiva
made a mistake. He had the potential to
be Mashiach. And here Maimonides
gives us a stunning perspective on how
Jewish law views this. Maimonides gives
us criteria. How do we know? And he
says,
"If a king, a Jewish leader arises, and
he comes from the house of David,
meaning he must be a descendant of King
David and King Solomon, from the Davidic
dynasty, because that's the family of
monarchy in Judea. And Maimonides
continues,
a person who is immersed in the study of
Torah,
both the written and the oral Torah, and
immersed in the observance of mitzvahs,
like King David himself.
And Maimonides continues,
and he compels and influences the entire
Jewish world to embrace Torah and
mitzvahs and to strengthen it, and he
fights the wars of God,
Harei zeh b'chezkas sh'hu Mashiach. You
can assume that he's Mashiach.
These are his criteria. We don't know
that he's Mashiach. Maybe the redemption
is not going to come.
>> Mhm.
>> There's a difference between chezkas
Mashiach, which means we can safely
assume that if God wants the redemption
to happen, he's the man. He's the
candidate. He's the divine messenger.
But this does not mean the redemption
happened. It means that this person has
the
criteria, the credentials,
and the qualifications.
We could say that if Hashem wants
Mashiach to actually come and be
revealed, this is the person.
Now we have to see, number one, is he
successful
in in winning these wars? Is he
successful in influencing the entire
Jewish world?
Is he successful in rebuilding the third
temple?
Is he successful in bringing all the
Jews back to our eternal homeland? If
that happens, Maimonides says, "I raise
a Mashiach bevatai." This is an absolute
Mashiach. It may not. The Rambam says,
"He may die. He may be killed." And then
he says, "He may have been a tremendous
Jewish leader." K'chol malchei beit
David hayu
achsharim. In other words, he may have
been a righteous and incredible Jewish
leader whom God appointed, but not the
one who facilitated the ultimate
redemption in the world. So, there was a
very very clear distinction and criteria
in Jewish law how to distinguish
an authentic Mashiach from a false
Mashiach. But, in an authentic Mashiach
itself, there's two stages. There's
assuming that he is Mashiach if the
redemption will unfold, he can be the
person. He has the chazaka. We can
assume he's Mashiach. And then the
actual statement that he is Mashiach.
And there's a very big difference. We
have three categories. We have a false
Mashiach.
We have someone we can assume
is Mashiach if God wants the redemption
to happen in his time. And then we have
the ultimate Mashiach when we know that
he is Mashiach and he's indeed bringing
the redemption. From the Maimonides,
it's very clear. The moment that a
fellow like Shabbatai Zevi or
theoretically any Jewish leader, rabbi,
sage,
potential Messiah abnegates one mitzvah
and says, for example, "This mitzvah I
don't have to observe." Now, the moment
this person deviates from Torah and
mitzvahs, the written Torah and the oral
Torah, this immediately disqualifies
them as Mashiach.
>> And his mistake was that he converted to
Islam. So, Shabbatai Zevi, that was the
climax.
>> Uh you know, the Zevi already
started to change mitzvahs earlier.
In fact, he made a morning blessing In
the morning, we say blessings of
gratitude. One of the blessings we make
is every morning
It's very relevant today. Baruch Atah
Adonai Eloheinu Melech Ha'olam Matir
Asurim. Blessed are you God who who
releases those who are captive. And it
also refers to every individual because
I'm sleeping at night, the fact that I
can wake up and move around my bones.
And I am mobile.
And I'm flexible. There's a special
blessing for this.
He changed
one syllable in the blessing. He's like,
Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech
Ha'olam Matir Isurim. Blessed are you
God who permits me to do prohibited
things.
>> Huh.
>> Asurim became Isurim.
>> Wow.
>> So, for example, he abrogated the fast
of Tisha B'Av. Why should you fast on
the 9th of Av when I'm Mashiach? I'm
here to redeem the world. Don't fast on
the 9th of Av. He's eating on Tisha
B'Av. Well, he's dancing.
The moment somebody does that, before
Mashiach Once Mashiach comes, nobody's
going to eat on Tisha B'Av. I mean,
nobody's going to fast on Tisha B'Av.
We'll all eat and dance on Tisha B'Av.
But, he does this does does does that
before. He's already playing games with
Jewish law.
The moment he does that, this means that
he doesn't understand what Mashiach is
and is not a candidate for being
Mashiach cuz the whole idea of Mashiach
is somebody who will help all of
humanity and the Jewish people implement
the vision of Torah in this world.
The vision of Sinai is going to be
executed in the real time in real time
in the real world. That is what Mashiach
is. So, if I come and say, "By being
Mashiach, you don't have to do this
mitzvah. You can get rid of this law."
By definition, I'm pulling the rug under
my
I'm pulling out the rug from under my
feet. I am saying I'm not that person.
I'm just another guy, you know, on my
own ego trip.
So, what's all the excitement about?
From what I understand, Messiah comes,
we're going to be free to enjoy
learning Torah, learning the Bible all
day, getting closer to God all day.
And
I'll be honest with you, for me
personally,
it's very exciting to go make a deal.
I'm a businessman, okay? To go make a
deal, to go make a a new project, a new
this, a new that. That's exciting. And
make a movie
>> To make a movie
>> about Messiah.
>> Right. Who needs Messiah? We'll have
movies about Messiah.
>> I I also think, by the way, a lot of
rabbis probably feel the same way. To
make a building campaign, to to to build
a build a new shul, a new synagogue.
>> Right.
>> But to sit and to learn Torah all day
and to learn about God all day, I said
it to one of my friends the other day
that doesn't know so much about Messiah.
I said, "That's what you're going to you
should look forward to." And he was a
little disappointed.
So,
what's all the excitement about?
>> Right.
It's a great question.
I think it comes from a misconception of
what Messiah means. So, people think,
you know, it's like basically the era of
the nerds or
or the era, I should say, of the
bookworms, you know? If I'm a bookworm,
great. I could sit like a hermit all day
24/7 and not have to worry about a
mortgage and not have to worry about
tuition and not have to worry about
where the food is coming from and who's
paying my electric bills, solar energy,
all is good.
Um
I think we need to um
we need to graduate some of our
our primitive our primitive conceptions.
What does Messiah really mean?
Messiah really means that the inner
state of bliss
that everyone is capable of and the
world is capable of, but it's so dormant
now,
is going to be revealed. And I want to
explain what that means.
As successful as we are,
as many business deals as we make.
Fundamentally, the time of exile is a
time of profound
dysfunction
in the most acute and profound way.
And that is this entire universe is
essentially
pulsating and vibrating divine energy
and consciousness.
But as far as we're concerned, we don't
feel we don't feel any of it.
Which means we are completely alienated
from ourselves.
I'm not in touch with my own core.
We are divorced from our own spiritual
DNA.
If the doors of perception were
cleansed,
if our hearts
had no blockages, if our brains were
truly open to reality,
we would experience
the truth that we are all
derivatives of infinite consciousness.
We are manifestations of divine light.
And we are all
living in divine infinite bliss.
Now we're looking for substitutes.
I go to the books, you go to your
business deal,
this one is doing his thing, we're all
on our phones.
Some good stuff we do. Some not such
good stuff.
We're all running around for substitutes
to fundamental truth of human existence,
the fundamental truth of existence
is in jail in our minds and our hearts.
The Messiah is the time when truth will
emerge.
And we won't live in blockages anymore.
Not physical, not spiritual, not
emotional, not social,
not psychological, not existential.
And
those,
you know, people who have suffered
terrible abuse,
and they live for 20, 30, 40, 50 years
with incessant pain.
Their emotions are blocked, they're
disassociated.
They're coping, They're dealing with
anxiety. They know the feeling of
letting go of self-consciousness.
The death of the ego for them is ecstasy
because they experience so much pain.
They'll call that my personal redemptive
moment, my personal Messiah. But all of
us, even those of us who were lucky
to grow up in functional homes and more
or less live functional lives,
relative to our own truth, there is so
so so many blockages we're all
experiencing.
So Messiah has nothing to do with
stifling creativity.
When you're open, when your heart is
open, when you're experiencing your true
energy,
you don't become less creative, you
become
your most creative version of yourself.
Because what does creative mean?
Creative means you're connected to
creativity, to creator. When I'm plugged
in to the creator, when I'm a channel
for the creator, my creativity is
infinite.
So everything we all dream of. I want to
be the best version of myself. I want to
be successful. I want to be alive. I
want to be full of love and bliss and
delight and ecstasy instead of looking
for distractions.
It's it's right here. It's inside of me.
It's inside of you.
And that's why the greatest spiritual
masters taught Messiah is here.
Redemption is here. The Baal Shem Tov
used to say exile and redemption is a
shift of consciousness.
It's a shift of consciousness.
Now, in Judaism, Messiah is not just
about consciousness. It's not just a
mindset.
Consciousness, we know today in physics,
affects matter.
So in Judaism, Messiah is a shift of
consciousness, but it's such a real
shift of consciousness that it's going
to affect everything. It's going to
affect politics and it's going to affect
economics and it's going to affect the
social fabric of society and it's going
to affect education. It's going to
affect romance and marriage and
relationships and intimacy and morality.
The The whole The whole structure of our
society and civilization will be
affected, but it's a shift of
consciousness.
And that absolute transformation of
consciousness
is one
that will allow each person
to be who they truly truly are.
>> I guess I've been looking at it the
wrong way this whole time.
Whereas
usually when do people want Messiah? A
tragedy strikes.
A holocaust, a a war, an October 7th.
I want Messiah. We need Messiah. When
somebody gets sick, God forbid, we need
Messiah.
So Messiah almost becomes this
crutch
that saves you from your immediate
predicament.
What you're saying is Messiah is not
here to act as a crutch. Messiah is a
complete expansion
of everything that's good in your life
and help you
to achieve and reach levels that you
never even thought possible.
>> Right.
In fact, one of the reasons people are
allergic to Messiah is
because they're sick and tired of
Tylenols. It almost sounds like Right.
You know, Karl Marx said religion is the
opium for the masses.
>> Right.
>> Right. Man in the job of giving people
opiate.
>> Right.
>> Ah, so now we have a new drug. We have a
new opiate.
>> Right.
>> We have a new miracle drug, Tylenol.
It's called Messiah. Leave me alone.
Figure things out on your own.
>> Right.
>> Go to therapy. Go to therapy. Get a
personal trainer.
>> root of the problem and
>> Lose weight and be a man.
>> Right.
>> And stop blaming everybody for your
problems and stop running to Messiah.
>> Right.
>> almost this escape route. Oh, Messiah.
Messiah must be coming. He should have
come. It always comes with a sigh. Oh, I
need Messiah. Messiah. Messiah should
come. It's like the Messiah is
associated with this
long Jewish sigh. What our grandmothers
would call a krechts. Leave me alone. I
want I don't I don't I have enough with
my sawing. I have enough.
I want to celebrate life. I'm doing
well. Right. Guy is young and handsome.
He's making money. He has a great Amazon
business. Whatever, he's in real estate.
He's doing well.
I grew up by the Lubavitcher Rebbe he
would often talk about Jews who say,
"Stop bothering me." The Rebbe would
always talk about Messiah. "Stop
bothering me. I have a very nice life in
exile. Okay, I have a couple of
headaches. I have a couple of headaches.
Fine."
That's why we have a good doctor. I have
a good doctor, too.
So, we say, "No, but look at this
tragedy. Look at that tragedy. Look at
that tragedy." It's true, people suffer
a lot. But, we're still not getting to
the core.
Because we're basically saying if you
got your life together,
you don't have so many tragedies, you
don't want Messiah jump into the Hudson
River. You don't need Messiah at that
point. We're missing the whole point.
It's exactly the other way around.
Exile
is the epitome of dysfunction.
Messiah is aligning
the universe with its true, true
identity.
Messiah is removing all the veils, all
the cover-ups, all the blockages. And
those blockages are so deep, most of
them are unconscious.
But, we know they exist.
Every human being is a channel
the light of God in this world 24/7.
In other words, the natural state of a
human being is
bliss,
confidence, empowerment, infinite
goodness, infinite love. We are all
manifestations of divine light, and
that's why we're all one.
Just like God is not made up of 7
billion pieces. There's 7 billion of us.
It's just the way it's manifested in the
physical world, but we're really one.
And the fact that we're not, we have so
much internal strife,
so much internal anxiety is because
we are so detached from ourselves. And
I'm talking about the successful ones
among us, right?
Actually, the ones who live in shrama in
many ways are lucky.
Because they know
about their jails, or at least many of
them know, not everybody.
The worst form of trauma is you're
living an active trauma and you think
you're healthy.
And that's what
galus really is. We're living an active
trauma and we're making believe we're
healthy. And those of us who are more
successful get to deceive ourselves
better.
Look, I have a nice watch. I have a nice
house. I have a second house in
Jerusalem.
I even fly privately.
It's cathartic. I really get to deceive
myself. And we walk around, you know,
with that with that sense, I'm in
control of the world, I'm in control of
life.
But you speak to people 10 minutes,
our ego is killing us, and our stupidity
is killing us.
Our lack of inner truth, authenticity is
killing us. Our inability to be truly
vulnerable, to really connect, is so
much pain.
There's so much inner anguish and
[clears throat] suffering. We are so
stuck, all of us, all of us.
And some of us who call ourselves very
religious, and we may be very religious,
often use religion to be even more stuck
in the name of God.
So really mashiach is
it's really restoring the ultimate
health
to each of us individually, to the
Jewish people collectively, and as a
result to our entire planet, and as a
result of the entire universe.
It's almost like going back to the
original dream
of God when he conceived the idea of the
universe.
You know, if you have barrel, if you
conceive of a new business, I don't
know, every Monday and Thursday you
conceive of a new business.
You know, there's that spark, that
epiphany, what you want that business to
look like. But to get to that may take a
very long time between the problems and
the challenges. When God conceived of
the universe, there was a dream, there
was a vision. What did he see in this
universe? That's Mashiach. Mashiach is
that original vision of what humanity
is, what the plan really is.
Basically, infinite light
being manifested in our consciousness.
That's what Mashiach is actually going
to
bring to our world.
>> Infinite light
being manifested in our consciousness.
So, God's infinite light
>> right down here.
>> So, we're not bringing it. We are
>> We're removing the blockages
that are causing us to look for
substitutes in order to fulfill us, to
numb our pain, to run away from our
anxiety. Everyone in our own way.
And some people Some of us more
effective than others, but there's this
search and so many distractions.
Mashiach is the bliss. Maimonides puts
it in one line.
He puts it in one line.
He says, "During that time there will be
no hunger, no war, bloodshed, and
violence, no jealousy, no toxic
competitiveness.
The entire
world, Jews and non-Jews, by the way,
the entire world will be immersed
in divine consciousness."
Divine consciousness does not mean that
everybody's going to be reading the same
book.
That book that you're worried about, you
got to go make your deal. Divine
consciousness means
Divine consciousness doesn't have a
certain picture or a certain color.
Doesn't mean I'm sitting with a cup of
coffee in my synagogue by a particular
book. It can mean that, too.
Divine consciousness is a state that is
transformative.
It's when my ego is gone, the death of
ego.
The death of ego, suddenly my
consciousness is a manifestation of
divine consciousness. I am a channel of
infinite light, of infinite oneness.
That's where all healing comes from.
That's where all truth comes from.
That's where all peace comes from.
The deepest souls yearn for Messiah 24
hours a day, 7 days a week because they
yearn for love.
They yearn for truth.
They're not yearning for crutches.
They look at a world so alienated from
itself. They look at humanity so stuck
in its stereotypes and misconceptions.
They look at themselves
so many of our most precious parts
locked up in a jail.
And they yearn for revelation. They
yearn for authenticity.
>> You seem like you live with
Messiah already in a certain sense.
Is that a crazy statement?
I grew up at the feet of the Lubavitcher
Rebbe.
And uh
I had the privilege, I think, of
absorbing
that innocent, pure, authentic
understanding and yearning for Messiah
divorced from superstition
politics, folly
immaturity,
escapism, insecurity
but coming from the innermost space
of a soul that's simply in touch with
reality.
That that that goes to sleep at night
hurting
that
we are in jail, that so many parts of us
are locked up
individually and collectively.
Individually, every person and
collectively as a people and
collectively as as as humanity.
Every act of violence in the world, all
the bloodshed we see, all the
atrocities, the horrors,
they are all symptoms.
They're symptoms of a universe that is
wounded. They're symptoms of a humanity
that has lost its course.
They're it's all symptoms of that. And
the Jewish people who are considered the
the spiritual the the philosophers, you
know, the Kabbalists say that the Jewish
people are the heart of the universe.
The heart feels it. The heart feels it
acutely. It's why anti-Semitism
exists in such a powerful way. What is
anti-Semitism? Anti-Semitism is also a
distorted cry.
It's a distorted outcry. Why is
anti-Semite so obsessed with the Jewish
people? We don't constitute more than
0.2%
of humanity, for God's sake.
It would be like you're watching a
football game and you zoom in on a match
in a football field.
Israel is like a match in a football
field and the Jewish people are smaller
than the match. Somebody once said the
number of Jews is smaller than a
statistical error on a Chinese census.
What what is that about? It's a
distorted cry
for the Jewish people
to assume
their true identity
to be moral and spiritual leaders of the
world. But we ourselves are so wounded.
We ourselves are so confused.
We ourselves in many ways don't know
what hit us. We ourselves are so
alienated from our true music, our true
voice.
So, I have seen I have seen the Rebbe's
cries. I've seen the Rebbe's union
almost every every single Shabbos. I
have to say as a child I didn't really
understand all of it.
Uh cuz I would wonder, you know, the
Rebbe was surrounded by 10,000
followers.
You have all the glory in the world, all
the honor in the world. If you want
money, you can have money. Everyone
admires.
You know, what what why you the Rebbe
would cry very often about Messiah,
about exile?
What's the issue?
What's bothering you? There was nice
parades, there was uh Praise, you're a
successful man. People call you the most
influential
and sole Jewish leader of the century.
Nobody built as many Jewish centers
maybe in history as you. And maybe Sacks
said that since the destruction of the
second temple, there was no leader who
had an influence on every single Jewish
community on the planet like the Rebbe.
>> Right.
>> Sit back and say
>> Realize nachas.
>> That's nachas.
Instead, I once heard the Rebbe stand up
and say
everything I have done my entire life
was in vain.
I still remember him using the words la
hevel valarik, it was all in vain
because redemption is not here.
I was a teenager at the time, I'm 19 at
18, 19, and I was I was shocked.
Everything was in vain. This is an
89-year-old man talk. It's not a
20-year-old man who's, you know
>> doesn't know the value of his words.
>> I'm almost a 90-year-old man
>> Right.
>> who's who's changed the face of of the
Jewish people after the Holocaust
who has created a revival in Jewish
consciousness
rejuvenated the Jewish world, who's
[snorts] who inspired The success of the
Rebbe wasn't Chabad. Chabad is part of
it. The success of the Rebbe was that
his vision inspired
hundreds of other Jewish groups,
demographics, and denominations from the
far right to the far left to be bold, to
be courageous, to be creative, not to be
embarrassed, not to stay in their
steeples, to build. That that was the
success of the Rebbe. The success of
the Rebbe is Chabad is part of his
success. A nice success, but that his
success was much bigger than Chabad.
What are you complaining so much? Jews
have never had so much comfort, so much
money, so many nice buildings.
Come on.
But I knew that it all ultimately meant
nothing to Not that it meant nothing to
him. He was doing God's work, of course
it meant to him. But he said,
"Everything I have tried to do was in
vain."
You ever heard an 89-year-old man with
such influence say this?
But this gave me a glimpse
number one, who the Rebbe was, and
number two, what Mashiach is. That
everything he was building, there was
not an element of ego there.
Nothing. Hm. And that's why he could say
it was all in vain.
Because what I really want is
I want the unity of the creator and the
creation.
And that hasn't been accomplished.
It's
It's here, but it's not manifested.
I want to be able to see the world for
the garden it truly is.
We are all channels of infinite
consciousness. The true human soul is
basically infinite consciousness having
a finite experience.
The moment we realize that not in our
brains viscerally, when we live it, when
we breathe it, when we relate to our
spouses and children in that way. When
we relate to each other that way, when
that consciousness fills the world
that's Mashiach, and that means the
bliss will be infinite. We're all
looking for pleasure all day.
>> [laughter]
>> With the All of us, we're all looking
for comfort, for pleasure.
For some of us it's more meaningful,
it's less meaningful. This one is
running to a donut, and this one is
running to a different type of donut.
We're looking for bliss.
But it's so dis- It's
filled with so much distractions. And
the real bliss There's only one source
of bliss in the world.
And that is when we realize that we are
channels, when we experience ourselves
as channels for the source of all bliss.
And that's what redemptive consciousness
looks like.
>> So, I understand my
Jews in New York, where we're sitting
right now might want Moshiach so badly.
It's cold.
It's difficult.
It's liberal.
But what about Jews who live
in Miami?
It's nice. It's warm.
They have Torah. Everybody seems to be
very happy there.
You think even the
Jews in Miami also want Moshiach just as
badly?
>> I can't speak for any particular person,
but I could speak for the soul in each
person.
And the soul in each person knows how
dysfunctional we are.
>> I'm going to have to go to Miami to see
if they feel the same way.
>> And I'll tell you this.
This is not about trying to say, "Oh,
they're really miserable. They're going
to therapy.
They talk to their therapist. They look
happy. Moshiach is not a crutch. So,
even though you look happy, but deep
down your marriage is falling apart, and
Moshiach is going to fix your marriage."
We have to go to a deeper place.
The misery we experience is not
necessarily because we're miserable,
unsuccessful people. I'm talking about
those of us who are successful.
We're talking about here the angst, the
pain
that's coming from the fact that the
deepest truth
of the universe, the DNA of the soul
is concealed.
And none of us
none of us, even those of us who work
hard
are liberated from that state of exile.
But the truth is
that Moshiach is all about
consciousness. The author of the Tanya
writes
Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi.
He says something beautiful, stunning.
He says there is collective
redemptiveness, and there's individual
redemptiveness.
And he says prayer was designed to
create
a shift in individual consciousness that
you become
an ambassador for redemption.
And he says literally it's the
opportunity each day to open up the lock
and let your soul and heart out of jail.
That's how he saw prayer.
There is an incredible story about one
of the great Hasidic masters. His name
was Reb Menachem Mendel of Horodok.
He moved to Israel.
He went from Russia. He moved from
Ukraine. He moved to Israel and he lived
in Tiberias, Tiberia.
And rumor had it that some fellow
ran up to the Mount of Olives and
started to blow the shofar, the ram's
horn. So people said it must be Elijah
the prophet heralding the coming of
Messiah.
It's before the days of WhatsApp, but
the rumor traveled to Tiberias.
And they came to this great Hasidic
master, Reb Mendele.
And they told him, "Elijah the prophet
is on the Mount of Olives. He's blowing
the ram's horn. Messiah is coming."
He went over to the window of his home.
He opened the window.
He stuck out his head.
He sniffed the air.
And he said, "Not yet."
So Hasidim say, "Why did he have to
smell the air outside of his house? Why
not inside of his house?" They said cuz
inside his home there was always the
atmosphere of Messiah.
He had to go outside to smell. Messiah
is that the whole world experiences it.
This is a very, very powerful idea.
And the great spiritual masters
understood this very, very well.
In fact, one of the great the Alter
Rebbe, the author of Tanya, writes that
there were souls
for whom you could say the temple was
never destroyed.
And he gives an example of Shimon bar
Yochai who was in a cave for 13 years
hiding from the Romans.
But for him
there was no exile. Why not?
Because in his consciousness, the temple
is not a physical building. It's also a
physical building.
It's the interlacing link between heaven
and earth.
We imagine they'll build us their
temple, we're going to be schlepping
rams and sheep and goats to be able to
slaughter a lot of meat and have big big
meat parties and feasts, meat boards.
Again, we are projecting our exile
trauma on Mashiach. When we talk about
Mashiach, we're just projecting what
life looks like from my traumatic
perspective.
>> [laughter]
>> So, I hear Mashiach. It reminds It
reminds me I grew up in 770. That's the
center of Chabad.
And there was a beggar there, very very
nice guy. I think he died already. His
name was Teddy. Teddy Teddy was the
sweetest guy. He would go around like
this. You know, some schnorrers, some
people who collect, they're really in
your face. You know, if you don't give
them the $5 they want, they curse you
and your family for eternity. But he was
a really nice person. He would go around
and then he you know, he would collect.
So, a friend of mine told me he met him
in a grocery store in Crown Heights and
he saw him buy a little lottery ticket.
So, he said, "Teddy, what are you going
to do with 150 million bucks?" And Teddy
said, "The first thing I'm going to do
is I'm going to hire bodyguards and put
them at all the doors of 770 so that no
other beggars are allowed in.
I would be the only one collecting
money."
That's how we talk about Mashiach. Well,
our conception of wealth is we're going
to have bodyguards so I'm the only one
making all the deals. Imagine, nobody
else would make deals.
So, now my bank account will have liquid
$900 million, not assets, liquid liquid.
That's Mashiach.
>> [laughter]
>> This is how we project our distractions
of bliss onto Mashiach.
>> [snorts]
>> But we're talking about the
consciousness
of the human being experiencing his
infinity.
You know what that looks like? Even
death doesn't destroy that.
Death destroys my finiteness, not my
infinity.
So, that's the place that transcends
death.
>> You asked me why I was doing this film
now. There's a famous story about
Ben-Gurion that really hit me as a kid.
I grew up in a secular school. So, our
you know, our Rebbe was Ben-Gurion.
That's who we looked up to. And
there's a scene where he's in front of
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
Yidden and they're waiting to get back
to
wherever they were going to. And they
were begging him for papers to get to
Palestine.
And he opens up his pockets and he says,
"I don't have anything for you. They're
empty, my pockets."
And you couldn't even give them that
hope.
So,
Right.
>> Messiah gives you even that hope. You
open your pocket and there's something
there. There's something there for the
Yidden.
>> And right now we're going through a very
hard time.
>> Right, that's true.
>> So, it seems like in the hardest
points of history,
Messiah has always been that thing that
the Jews have turned towards.
Why is it that is what gives us hope out
of all things?
Messiah is a man.
Why that?
>> Yeah. Excellent question here, too.
There's a misconception.
Some people thought it'd give people
hope because, you know,
it's like atheists will often make fun
of religious masters who promise people
the rewards in heaven. You know, it's
great. Show me the rewards on Earth. Oh,
you got nothing to say, you know? So,
you always say, "Don't worry. In heaven,
you're going to get everything." Nobody
came back yet from heaven to tell us.
So, people always make fun of it like,
"Jews, they have nothing. They're
wretched. They're being massacred.
They're persecuted. Mashiach I mean
Mashiach Mashiach you should go with
your Mashiach. You know, maybe you take
control of your own life and fight back.
This was one of the ways in which many
secular Jews denigrated the religious
establishment. Like, you know, be the
dreamer. Continue dreaming about
somebody coming down from the clouds on
a donkey to redeem you.
Instead of taking responsibility.
>> Now that you put it like that, I I get
it. It's it does sound funny.
>> Sounds funny, right? And and and and
they felt it was divorced from reality.
It was divorced from responsibility. And
I should say frankly even today some
religious Jews they have like like that
feeling. Like stop like
Yeah, we finish our sermons and we
finish our our speeches and our classes,
you know, we will all see and God will
God should bring Mashiach. Amen.
But but deep down, you know,
I got to run to the bank.
You know, deep down am I really relying
on it?
We have to elevate our consciousness
here.
And I'm going to mention two things.
Number one,
>> [clears throat]
>> the suffering in this world,
needless to say,
is very very intense.
Individually, collectively, the
tragedies that Jewish people have
endured, especially recently,
is devastating and unfathomable. For the
Jewish people, Mashiach represents a
time and an era when we'll be able to
look back
and say, "Ah,
that's why it all happened." Now, think
about that. What I just said does not
make sense. In fact, it sounds cruel and
ridiculous and absurd and ludicrous and
stupid. Tell me, there is something that
can happen in the world
that will justify for us 2,000 years of
torment? Is there even any great
goodness that can happen in the world
that will justify the death of one
child?
The death of one innocent person? The
torture of one Jewish woman or man? I
don't know of something like that. What?
Endless money? Endless food?
No shortage crisis? Tell me what exactly
can happen in our world
that you and I and anybody can look back
and say, "Ah, that's why we went through
this. That's why" And the answer is
there's nothing. You know why? Cuz we
completely don't even begin to grasp
what Messiah
We're looking at Messiah as more money,
more housing, more space, more comfort.
It's a transformation of consciousness
that our present egoic brains
can't wrap their head around.
It's a shift of such profound
consciousness that all of history is
going to be redefined
in our visceral conception.
Number one. Number two.
When Jews believed in Messiah
>> [snorts]
>> it's something much, much deeper than
talking about something that's going to
happen tomorrow.
They were talking about something that's
happening today. Mhm. They were looking
at a dark universe. They were looking at
evil. They were looking at atrocities.
And you know what they were saying?
They were saying,
"We will not fall prey
to the horrors. We still believe in
love.
We still believe in light. We still
believe in life."
Clinging to Messiah meant clinging to
the fact that hatred is dysfunctional.
That cruelty is contrary to who we are.
That psychological and emotional
alienation and trauma is not
the truth of the human spirit. Some of
the most moving things I've heard from
people,
people who went through terrible,
terrible abuse,
was how they learned that their soul was
present but not affected by it.
They could emerge unscathed because
their soul remained unscathed.
That's what Messiah meant collectively
and individually to the Jewish people.
It meant
that as much pain and horrors as we saw,
our core is unscathed. Belief in Messiah
means the world may be dysfunctional. We
may be alienated from ourselves.
Humanity needs a lot of healing and the
Jewish people need a lot of healing.
But it's healing to come back to who we
truly are. Messiah was not just about
the future.
It was describing which reality I'm
going to live in today. Which state of
consciousness I'm going to choose to be
in today. Which part of myself
am I going to bring forth to me and to
my children and to my loved ones and to
the world? Who's going to show up?
A sick self
or a liberated, emancipated, infinite
self?
That's what belief in Messiah meant for
the Jewish people.
>> Rabbi YY Jacobson, thank you for your
time. This has been
mind-blowing. There's one thing that I
took from today,
it was that Messiah is not a crutch.
Messiah is the expansion of who we are
and who we're supposed to be and what
the world is supposed to be and who we
can be. Who we can be. So, thank you for
that.
Thank you for being here with me and I
appreciate all the work that you
continually do and thank you. May God
continue to bless you in all the great,
great work. Thank you. Same to you.
Thank you. Thank you.
I do have one last question for you if I
may.
In New York, I can understand why people
want Messiah. It's a little bit of a
rough environment. It's cold outside
today.
Funny policies,
crazy people running around in the
streets.
But Miami, such a nice place, warm
place, friendly to the Jewish people,
expanding Jewish communities, palm
trees.
Do you think they want Mashiach as badly
as the New Yorkers do?
>> So, I've had the privilege of visiting
Miami and Florida many, many times. And
my gut tells me that there, too, they
want Mashiach.
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