Nasa Na#17- Mincha years are prime for refinement - Yeshiva out of town - details

we're on page 138 we're at the new paragraph yes so this is the last paragraph of the mimer of this very important foundational mimer in avoidance hashem i recommend and suggest if you want to give someone a taste of hasidis use this mimer it's not that difficult and yet it touches upon fundamental ideas both in siddhis and also musa and avoids hashem this mimer has been translated by the way into english in the um book challenge the volume that has a red cover the actual book not which is about erit israel a book published out of england in the early 70s i believe of mid-70s published two volumes of a book called challenge one had a green cover one had a red cover and and it was a an eight and a half by eleven type of a book about three hundred page two hundred fifty three hundred pages each thick paper and uh the first volume was about the activities of chabad in england the second volume was about chabad activities in eritrea going back to the you know fifties sixties and seventies so it was a lot about the quran um residents and how they built up and everything else the book is called challenge so i i my recollection is i don't have it with me but my recollection is that in the in the volume either in it might be in the first one about england with the green cover or the second one about to throw the red cover there is for sure a translation of this mimer in english and and what who who translated it or someone who who knew what he was doing um a translation and it could be you'll find it online today so um just for the record you you should know that that's that's available but um we're going to continue now page 138 yes the gimbal twilight chakras says we there are the three avoiders the three services of the general services of chakras in one's behavior in one's general life analogous and represents a person's childhood and his teenhood or his young adulthood bacharach from the word right it begins with going to hey there the uh and then as he gets older he's exiled to a place of tiger referring to people going to out of town yeshivas right so you see there is a concept of going to another town yeshiva although i must tell you the way i was raised and uh the way it was here in brooklyn uh we didn't go to out of town yeshivas until 17 18 years after we finished high school or misifter um and base madrid no one was running around to yeshivas it became a style probably in the 80s to start you know going to different yeshivas even the middle of massive 10th grade 11th grade etc but in my days this wasn't at all it was unheard of it was unheard of you were near yeshiva and usually you were on one yeshiva all your elementary and all your high school and that's how he what remember a lot of the reasons why like in high school and middle school middle school that they send out the kids i remember when i was a kid everyone they were sending them out to adelphia they were sending them out to wits they send them out when they have issues with it with the kids they don't know how to deal with it they don't want it yeah but that that that's a different story what i'm telling you is that that first of all you're i i think you're you're mistaken it wasn't you know in the music it was more in the bass madras age you know 17 17 18. uh that you know kim berlin everyone and tara vidas all the yeshivas everyone went to there yeshiva no one was running around the the the philadelphia and there is ro those were all for for they had their mary scroll had a lot of kids in misifta from around the world especially from south america countries but boys from brooklyn didn't go to narya's role and if you did go to israel you're right there was there was usually an issue that you didn't do well in the local yeshiva she went out of there and that's the way it was in la babbage but then it became fashionable in the babbage for sure to even in younger age uh grace 15 16 to to go out um to study in other yeshivas so i'm not talking about a problem case specifically i'm talking about the average what do you think what do you think drove that fashion what are the factors well one is what what you only identified you know if you didn't do well and you had an issue with a principal or or a teacher you know and and your parents tried a b and c and the principles tried and you know and of course the principals and the teachers got their way um so you you you look for another yeshiva seldom seldom in my experience my days in yeshiva did you find a student that had to leave because there were things in the house uh health issues uh sometimes a divorce issue um you know shalom bias and and we did have that so that was another factor at times number three to answer your question hillel is there were times when this is probably not when you were in high school but when you base measures you were 17 when uh your parents or you got wind of a certain rush of shiva or a mashipiya or a teacher in a certain yeshiva that was you know par excellence in his ability to explain and teach or his warmth depending on what you needed and you and you went there and and i knew i knew i knew a few but very few i can count on my finger out of all the bakarim that i knew and all the older and younger and my class and no no one went and and you know we had some very bright guys that if they would have gone to you know today amir there's a rabbi ariely i don't know if you heard his name rabbi ariely rabbi usher ariely and he gives they they everyone comes to hear his share because the way he gives a share is phenomenal better than anyone else that's that's the talk and maybe today already there are others but uh the last 20 30 years of arieli was the star of mir so people came from all over the world just to hear his sheer although the rest of the day they weren't going to share they were based methodists and whatever else but they could kind of uh hear from him those that were really interested in learning at a certain level and and then there's the other factor which comes a little later in one's life is the the the shidduch card it's good on the resume if you said you went to learn a brisk in yerushalayim so in the literature world is you know having on your resume that you studied in brisbane jerusalem it gives you a a big star with you're a three star a five-star general for the and for that matter certainly yeshivas if you can and because it was very hard to get into brisk and if you managed to get in they accepted you you used that later on your resume for shidduchim and and there's then we discussed several times that i want to go into but there is that at the end with the parents really are looking for that because they feel it will give them the extra mileage but barring that barring that there were certain students who wanted to learn by a certain teacher for example you know uh i wanted to learn siddhis by arab yoyo khan you know although i knew him before and you know and had a certain relationship but nevertheless and and i heard she ordered from him even when i wasn't his student officially when i was in morristown uh by rabbi melakshvil who was also a a genius of of tyrannoxidis but still uh khan's ex has butter it was uh you know no one can compare so is it today that says we are saying no today is his birthday his birth not today yesterday yesterday 16 16 of swati he would have become uh 92 years old anyway so so so i sought and not only me we you know a group of us who were interested to to to ha to be around him to hang around you know so you're not going to go off there this role or to england because you won't be in that proximity so you had select students so between all of these different reasons now today in lubavitch and chabad there's something else why boys they go away i think for one one or two years in 10th or 11th grade and then they come back to the last year it's called shear dalit in basement because that's the year where they send you on schlitz as an older booker today is maybe in 30 places between high schools and bass madrid and each of them gets a group of five to ten shlokhan usually so where did they pick them from they picked them from the fourth sheer ole torah and crown heights and if you're not in that last year you don't you don't get chosen or you know you get uh something that's not to your liking so they all come back for the fourth year so they can have a chance to go on schlitz yes don't forget though that's that's in terms of the united states or maybe uh in other parts of the world the nurtural right yeah i have the shiva godolas that are here and the boys they go you know and from from there as as well right right and i i don't know that system as well uh but i am aware of it so though there's a different reasons but but in my days this this wasn't this wasn't the the call of the hour we were in one yeshiva for 17 18 years or 15 years as long as we were in the yeshiva and then we went out uh usually to to morristown the the we were the incumbents we were the big boys we were the players you know we had we we had uh anyone that came in uh and others came in we they you know we were like the the big guys the big shots because you know we had the uh what's the word um um the uh before we we had the uh established the record that you come to marist on yeshiva from the babaji yeshiva so if you came from miami or you came from california you came from england the richest role uh basically you got to answer to us that was the feeling the elitism that we had in in the marathon yeshiva yes youngest you're a morristown student what what about about true yeshiva to ferris what about it i mean i mean you get to know them you know you get to know what the barbecues are all about oh yes and that was wonderful i spent a lot of time in in interference in urdu yeshiva and i i gained a lot and it was it was very very special because meeting people came from different backgrounds and some of them very bright and educated and uh it was um it was it was an experience a positive one for me and and uh i'm always grateful for that opportunity and this was in the heyday where rabbi lipscore was the mashbiya and rabbi vichmann was the rosh yeshiva and it was it was a happening place okay so i just say this because that ever says here it's interesting you go to heider and then he says the goyle and claimed torah he didn't have to say that he could say and you go to a place of torah you know no he quotes the pirky of us exile yourself to a place of thyroid abram there's a concept of going away and i saw this my own son he became stronger and better in various ways by having you know at 15 at a younger age um he it was better for him to leave um and he and he left yeshivas out of the country when territory surrounded he came back and to to to america and then he went to australia so the point is that there's a there is a value in guayulum claim torah but yeshiva belimode and what do you do over there sitting and learning baja's mother you're not checking the internet i always say morristown was my best learning why i we could be snowed in for three weeks and i wouldn't leave the building for three weeks except friday when i'm telling you so whether the snow was this high or or not we had a car take us to west orange or south orange wherever we would did with new jersey friday for several hours back to yeshiva the rest of the week it didn't step out of the yeshiva my food wasn't yeshiva in my bedroom shiva my my lucky was yeshiva my camaro was in yeshiva mexi this is my friends my mush beer my russian shiva everything yeshiva and it was wonderful i remember when when i was uh 17 years old and i learned in la babachi shiva here in ocean parkway in brooklyn they had a dormitory in the fourth floor today they still have it but it's not a dormitory thing and i remember this is when i lived in borough parks i i walking distance from my house yeshiva was 10 minutes and i told my parents i'm not coming home during the week because it's cold and i have to wait for rides and the snow and there's ice so but i wasn't an official i didn't have an official bed in the dormitory because i i have a house a home so i would sneak beds every other night i slept in another bed because someone was out and i paid musical musical beds and this is the way i stayed all week in the yeshiva and for shabbos i came home and that was also wonderful you know i i remember like i feel now my bones i would get up in the morning and and the dormitory room was nice and hot too hot and then i would roll down downstairs in the basement they had a beautiful mikveh that they built in the yeshiva there and then write it right to the shul to daven and learn uh and then you know so there's something positive that you could really benefit from baha'u's mother yeshiva also another another uh carrot and an important one that i i experienced and it's worth talking for a minute about is when you're in a base madrid and they send the older bakker that are emissaries you know older guys older students you learn from them and i learned a lot from these older guys really i paid attention to them we had arguments we had discussions you know uh if i was pompous they they quickly you know showed me that how rude it is and why uh it's not right you know it's a learning experience when you have older students who you respect and i until today i i i think about things that they told me when i was 17 years old and it helped me later in life and i got that because i was in a setting with older students so we had that virtue both in the in the babaji shiva so when we went to morristown and later to los angeles as older students in los angeles i had already prep from the older students that i looked up to that made an impact on me and my friends um and now i was in the position at 2021 in los angeles of of being an older student for the students there so the system is not madness the system has a lot of um cycle a lot of intelligence behind it and it works if you take it right and by and large you know the fabric took it the right way one of the issues that um we we we dealt with was you know the learning our own learning in other words when you go as an older guy to younger students are you learning as much for yourself or not and uh it's easy very easy to get wrapped up and all the things you need to do for others and forget about your own learning and i brought hashem and a few of my friends so we we we did both we each chose a field to um a volunteer work in in our general mission in los angeles but coupled with as the devil said to us now we have to learn ourselves and as a 21 year old 22 year old i i it was in los angeles that i memorized the tremendous amount of tanya about because you know and i was up to very late memorizing uh it was there that i learned you know well different parts of halakhah my point is that i didn't forget about my own learning remembering that i'm only 21 and i one day will marry shem and go out on the shrikhand and hopefully teach others i should be educated and and and so what what are you gonna do all day take care of children shabbos no so i chose adult education making shirem for balabatim spending time with the ferris guys that join us and said in the basement other people chose sending uh us to shules our shabbos to coordinate each of us went to a different school shall show this time to say different title and then and sikhs and my murama the rebbe a third person spoke took care of mishmar thursday night where the older students live with the younger students in the basement in los angeles so each of us had a responsibility but not to not to not to replace have to replace our main idea which was our own learning and and sometimes this gets to be a uh especially in the last 20 30 20 years or 30 years there's been a little break down there and and um i would hope that it uh you know it comes back full circle i mean we had rabbit uh you mostly you don't know he knows him is a genius of tayden you know and and he would give sometimes a shear two three hours i remember and and uh we had two buckler and two of our slogan friends that you know wrote it down and mastered it and uh it was very serious learning very like learning in the best yeshiva narcissist i mean he's a student of brisk he learned to brisk in 64 65 whatever before that he learned in lakewood so he talked about he gave he he taught us you know the the the what the top of of learning but he needed receptacles he needed people students who are interested and barack hashem we we had that in our group so um this is something important some of you have might have or might have children or grandchildren in the khabar system later of this type of you know whatever the system is to to make sure to to to emphasize that you're you're there to learn yourself because if you don't learn yourself you're not going to know and you won't be able to be mashpia on others later in life so it's very important not to forget that okay says that ever the youth years of learning is not a wonder it's not a surprise this is a responsibility of the persons that's called something called and which means responsibility of man versus responsibility of object means it's an object this is a new concept we never we never learned this right right uh it's it's it's spoken much more about yoni and the gemura and not just in the regular gamora but in certain commentaries in the gemara brisk and others and they're into this flavors but siddhis is kind of borrowing this term and applying it to itself when basically simply what it means is it's your responsibility learning and go and and in your youth years is a javascript it's the obligation of the man don't tell me it's your parents your grandparents your rebbe your rabbi it's your obligation to learn you're not a baby you're a bar mitzvah so they're that's called chris gabriel means the obligation of the object in other words the the torah needs you to study it that's not the point here right because if listen to this the tyrant needing you to learn it could be right here in your house what we're doing now in in the championship we're learning the terror is being studied there's something else which is gabra regardless of where you are say you're traveling you're in chicago and you're a railways new mexico and you're here and there wherever you you are you have an obligation to learn just because a change of scenery you have a clave to learn why because it's a hive it's an obligation gabriel on you the person that's what it means so the rapper says the asaper cloud the fact that you learn in the morning in your youthful years in your morning years so another point it doesn't it doesn't uh contradict what i said earlier but he said every father has an obligation to teach a son tatum that's what it says talmud so the favors governor that he's referring to here is not what i said earlier although that's true it's a clevis governor on a father who sent who who who who pays tuition or and he gets his son to learn in yeshiva it's his height so in the case of uh pre-barbar and every person is obligated to learn so this he finished with with chakras so the chakras years but he's saying pelleclaw it's not it's not a surprise that your father gets you to send you to learn and you learn whether it be the hater whether it be out of town whatever the case it's not a big surprise because this is bread and butter and water and this is survival now he looks at phyllis harvest even in trilla what does that represent it's when you get older for ice cream potato mitzvahs and you're learning already throughout your lifetime tell you that you're still doing mid-swiss the anza pellets not it's also not a surprise the kahuna this is the norm the norm is when there's white this beer gets white as it gets whiter you get more tired you go more furious you sleep more and you you learn more if you know what i'm saying so the the shot is because you're no longer good for anything else um we're leaving at that we'll leave it at that by the way uh that's the oldest guy as the oldest guy in the kabura i can say that yeah i i say you're good for many things anyway um [Music] it's when you're in the middle of your year your prime years means boiling you're boiling you're passionate about all worldly matters british the sausage business worries by another's beneficiary the conduct of your family your children we we all know this in your arrows specifically then during the midfield years you shall be shatter your emotions your medicine and your passion for things that are worrisome and troublesome and problematic with hana and conduct yourself a piate of a mitzvah and don't be don't lose faith in taylor and mrs because of all the isms and issues that you confront confront during your years of how to make panrasa and how to have the kids be better and all that so avoid this veda says that have been two words this is avoider this is work simple english this is work chakras years is not really work my reviews does not really work milk years that's fair that's hard avoid its work methods of of correcting the the meter the bed key say the chair shook on the table they're only an introduction in preparation to the ultimate goal which is in other words the two of the what desire says [Music] an introduction and preparation for the contemplating what we said earlier the krishna uh what is about the activity of krishna for avoiding then you come to deal with the minhas type of aveda with intelligence now this is important he doesn't explain it what does it mean it means you can't survive the years if you're not intelligent what do you mean intelligent you need to go through a process of myriff and chakras and everything that it represents so then you cut then you have the kayak and understanding how to deal with the min issues if you don't have a krishna shell amita you don't have a good opening in the morning and a good shimano you're going to fail during minha because it's overwhelming so the preparation is a prerequisite that was the word i was looking for before it's a prerequisite for success in minha so here's the here's the point said differently how do i get away from inhaler i'm in the middle of drawing i'm in the middle of working a middle counseling middle of teaching if you had proper of your life and what's important what's not important and then you saw that in your david in the chakras in the various sections of chakras it's going and you understand that i'll be a it's not just a feeling khabad says put aside your feeling and begin with cup head understand and when you understand it then you really feel it truthfully real feelings deep feeling is it's it's brought down a swarm why is a person many times has tears and cries because his cycle is his brain his intelligence can't fathom it anymore it it it it understood it and now it's going to a point where it shatters it breaks through it it it can't handle it anymore so it comes out in tears but whatever says here alpine the rabbit defines it that means time is when the human intelligence should say to him in other words not that the mimer says at him or the gemara or the rabbi or the torah but rather the the the work itself says to him the faints and it also refers to the general idea of min as a regards to one's mid-year life so in other words in order to do minha properly the sechel anushi your work and your situation on the ground has to say this is important so the rebel says and how do you get to say which is usually stubborn and ego and and and not interested and and busy it comes after a good christmas shall i meet it the night before it begins the night like i said you go to sleep like a line you get up like a line you go to sleep like a horse you get up like a horse so you go to sleep like a lion kiss michelle amita you get up like a lion in the morning you jump out of your bed you get you start your day early and you and you dabble like a mensch and then you go out to work and that's that's the the experience the work hours and and and you're coming from a healthy place and then you're then you say to yourself what did i learn you say i learned this morning so and so i learned therefore i i have a a proper way to go about my business i will stop him continue tomorrow because i guess everybody have a great day take care