New episode coming out now with Hudi Kowalsky

You need to be inclusive because in the in those cattle cars everybody was there. It didn't make a difference if you went to YU or if you went to Ponovich or if you went to you were Satmar or Lubavitch. They didn't care and they still don't to this day. A lot of people struggle with meaning. And when it comes to meaning that they're not going to find just from from doing a little cognitive psychology. They got to go to someone on the bridge that wanted to jump in San Francisco many years ago. And the cop said if you don't if you if you jump, [clears throat] I'm going to shoot you. The guy got down. So it's not what it means you're always jumping on the on on the top of a van. Smoking up. That's nice. That's cute also. It makes people happy. Simple means I'm living a life of being tuned in. I have a purpose. Saying God for some people sounds very scary because they went through trauma, someone abandoned them. Someone did something to them that wasn't good. So they feel abandoned by God. What did you learn from your clients? >> Be humble, be human, be curious, stay open. Everyone's going through something. Yeah. Stay kind.