Part 2 Rabbi Tovia Singer - Do not follow after gods which your fathers knew not

[Music] someone's in love with jesus and they surrendered to jesus then they're very happy to discoverize abv oh thank god i can find a text in the jewish bible that upholds my jesus who i love who died for my savior because i'm a filthy dirty sinner unworthy of salvation there's nothing that i can do to save myself from hell there's no works paul was speaking to our lowest part the partners are throwing up on the streets of of lower manhattan and that's what a summit trains appeals to our lowest part the payment us the part that feels inadequate i'm unworthy god must hate me when i'm gonna die god's gonna give it to me there are things that i've done i would never tell my wife never tell my husband but god knows i'm surely lost there's no possible action i can take in my life to be safe but jesus he'll never forget you let me tell you something if you if you don't know this then you cannot possibly penetrate what is really going on in the schematic then the verses come and live now what happens is the following listen very carefully if i was betrayed by everybody or the people because let's face it who are the people who've hurt you in your life oh i cashier at walmart who are the people that broke your heart who was it some sales person in toys r us no the people you loved the most were closest to you broke your heart and rip your soul to pieces that you're still recovering from the damage they did to you you will be trained and rejected by your own family and probably for good reason that means this very when you study racism one of the what a very important central theme of racism is or or people who have been hurt is that deep down the victim really believes it is very important deep down you know what my father did to me you know he threw me out of the house my mother never accepted me but truth is i bet you she was right i really am my sister was always a better person she was always prettier inside the outside i was never a good person you got it so therefore this is the bahama this is the lower half this is the part of low self-esteem but jesus he's perfect not done jesus he's perfect he he he was without sin and he gave his life willingly for me so now here here's the rub here's the rub you want me to do to jesus what my father did to me you want me to reject him you got it that's how it works the passages come later now i will tell you that michelle will say no baloney i just happen to be reading isaiah 7 2014 describing a civil war between and the northern kingdom and and and syria and it just blitzling fell in isaiah 7 14 as i was in the rockefeller museum examining the dead sea scrolls i just happened to be looking at some nacho heaven text and just pink look i happened to fall on zechariah 12 and i was convinced how could that be because zechariah top 10 is describing events that will happen at the end of days in muhammad jerusalem will be a heavy burdensome stunt all those who are against it no missionary ever was reading isaiah 1 2 3 4 and the hearts of those who were in of the kingdom of david were shaking like leaves in the tree and and and sin and pekka and riccin and the syria the northern kingdom of israel and syria were gathered for alliance against the southern king against marcus and then it says oh yeah except jesus in my life that's never happened so i will take your question next so therefore you understand that the way it works is that jesus changed my life moreover if i believe it i'm going to i don't want to go to hell and i am sure there's nothing i can do in my life that would get me into heaven and i'll bet you're paul in romans chapter 3 is right and that's how it works and what and that's in order to help someone you've got to recognize that if you don't understand where it's coming from it's really coming from a good place it meaning it's coming from a person who's very hungry whereas judaism appeals to the highest level the target never says such things the terrorist says in deuteronomy 30 don't think that the law is far away tomorrow you get us over to see who bring it to us the word is near to you it's in your heart that you may do it the end of verse 14 and paul yamashima quotes this text in romans chapter 10 verse eight and anybody who looks it up with duke chiller right now will paul quote the text and it says the word is near to you and he stops and he doesn't say that you may do it and then in verse 15 of deuteronomy 30 the the moses of blessed memory tells us before you have placed life and death good and evil you must choose life and you may live verse 17 and 18 tell us exactly what it means to choose life and reject evil what is evil what is good at verse 19 i call heaven and earth as witnesses before you i place life and death good and evil you must choose life god doesn't treat us like children chills like men be men grow up choose to connect to me have a relationship with me i love you and i want to be close to you thank you for your question you have a question this gentleman i promise is next thanks a lot so i have two parts from little that i want to also quote and ask you about it but first i want to start with this at the beginning there was no christianity at the beginning there was no jesus his name when he came you said jesus is a jew so had a jewish name his name is yeshua yeah but we say moses it's just convention it's just convention you want to call his name was yeshua i conceived it fine let's go on with that okay that's fine but i use it because we this is the terminology we use today and you know that christians do call jesus jesus and they do call their religion christianity i know i get it i get it so i'm going to do this i want to concede everything those points i can see it all to you yeshua and whatever it is and people who followed him i want to grant it because i want to get to the point so i grant it all to you so yeshua disciples who followed him and after yeah all this influence came from constantine which brought up the christianity we have today christianity we have today yeah and christianity with all that he's done over centuries all this abomination that he has done in the name of jesus not in the name of yeshua yeah he's a cult it's a cult that left torah and you know that yeshua was teaching torah and was telling the people to obey torah he said even not a youth can be changed in the torah am i right well in the mouth of matthew 5 yes of course so christianity is a cult that popped up later and did all these abominations to us but this has nothing to do with yeshua yeshua the messiah of the christians the messiah only because this one i don't know i just i don't know what you mean by terms i just want to ask you a question um obviously you can't stand the roman catholic church right there that has to be in the bad bad side so that will just eastern orthodox good good i just want to know where you're at because i have no i'm not sure i just want to know uh so if someone believes that jesus was god is that a cult or not do you reject that are you a unitarian or in some way believe jesus was fully god equal to god in the flesh i don't know what level where do we stop the line of augmentation i want to i want to conceive all the linguistic points to you all the linguistic convention i a grant will call me not use the word christianity who follows you show everything because i want to get to the point so my question is could you just do this to me because i want to follow your next point and i normally don't interact just this because i i'm not able to follow you could you name a denomination a religious examination that you believe accurately follows the true teaching of issues so i can just i can just calibrate my brain i can understand what you're about to say so give me an example of a denomination of the southern baptist true followers the assemblers of god are charismatic they are not who is there is the one that i'm familiar with that we have to keep torah in all the commandments and we're not allowed to put on or to take off torah okay so according to this yeah the christians do the wrong thing they don't and christianity is all also influenced by paul yeah paul oh you were jack paul oh oh okay good now we're really going you're i just want to know so i just don't know what we're talking about this definition so you're going to every night but however united are you do you reject um the of this in matthew do you believe that jesus is one of a virgin or is that also a labor invention jesus is born of a virgin does your belief is do you believe that may i ask you a question on that is yes go ahead you know why so you know why jews always answer a question with a question why not okay so is there anything impossible to elohim is not everything possible to him to do whatever he came down and visit abraham yeah is there anything let's go to your heart now we go to the scriptures we have i will start with daniel yeah is daniel the truth or will you also tell me that daniel at the end was miscalculating on his numbers oh no dangerous of the word of god oh daniel is the word of god so daniel in chapter nine gives us exactly the year when mashiach is gonna come and he tells us that after he came the temple will be what is the calculation please share with us the calculation is in the scripture so tell me please i'm very curious oh you know the calculations you know it's very interesting that i hear other times oh daniel did miscalculate so this speech just like you're not responsible roman catholics don't make me responsible for everybody else okay all right okay please tell me the calculation of daniel chapter nine we have a clear calculation everybody can read it do you know nothing on snails and we have such a fantastic calculation don't tell me i know it and we know if i know that brings us to what is that calculation okay okay these weeks that will pass and will pass though brings us to the year 32 and he tells me how does that please tell me the name i'm very interested oh we have to get a board why are the boards believe me i'm very familiar with the text if you just tell me when we start counting i'll know exactly when do we start counting the 490 years you tell me oh you have it i i heard of it once in my life yes no no i'm asking you you're saying you believe in this faith and this is the first verse you've ever brought up i asked you a question i think it's a fair question please protel tell us this calculation and i ask you the most simple thing if it's a 490 year prophecy please tell me when we start counting that's a fair question so please let's change your life tell me when i say this i have to ask some of them this is not the point that changed my life this is true when i bring it up i hear everybody telling me that this is a miscalculation i don't know daniel 9 you're saying you're actually bringing me a proof of a verse and when i ask you just explain it to me with other poor just when you start counting you said i won't listen i want to talk to you sweetheart listen brother brother brother okay daniel 9 you're saying contains a chapter of 27 passages you're saying that in this chapter contains the proof of exactly the date of his crucifixion which you're saying is 32 accept it completely stay with me stay with me stay with me so you're saying you agreed you said rabbi you know it so i said to you it's a 490-year prophecy which ends at culmination 32 as you say grabbed it all so i asked you a fair question when do you start counting and how do you start counting that way if you can't answer that question that i would just say to you then we'll move on to the next topic but i would say to you tonight when you go to sleep you'll say how is it possible really that a text that i think is so important that i just didn't even know when it's not counting i don't god forbid mean to anything that's one i want to say i think it's a fair criticism i think to be honest you should say like i accepted what you said please accept what i said i want to ask you another question no no no i want you to listen i promise you if we don't take another believe nothing we don't think i'll take all of you i'm not stopping i want you to listen because i care about you and i'll be here for a few more weeks my time is yours listen if let's forget suspend that we don't know when to stop camping for you know we don't recall because we don't we don't have a board whatever but you're saying that the prophet daniel who lived 2500 years ago he lived during the babylonian exile foretold the precise date that he would be cut off that he would be executed the messiah would be killed do you know how important that is you know what a fantastic claim it is you're saying that we are told by the neo he's a holy man the exact actually daniel isn't speaking the angel gabriel is speaking just for context but it's recorded in the book of daniel that the exact moment of when the messiahs must be killed is recorded in the jewish bible i have a question for you i grant everything i agree i want you one question i want to answer ask you a question from heart to heart i'm not i don't try to catch you i'm just i'm trying my best to be as honest as you would expect me to be i want to ask you this question if this is the case but think before you answer it we have 27 books in the new testament oh but you don't believe in cool okay so okay all right so we have 14 books in a more reduced i'm kidding i presume why if this is the case now i would posit to you this was a later christian invention but here's the question if this was not a later christian i use a word christian just give me a free pass on that one okay why isn't this quoted anywhere in the christian bible that means in order for you to believe that there's a clear prophecy and then you know are you telling me and the authors of matthew mark luke john all the letters of paul the letters of john the letters of peter whatever you accept none of them thought that point was important enough to mention the new testament does any same silver mine believe this let me say i i hope you got this point it's not quoted in the christian bible there's an order for you sweetheart listen to me in order for a person to believe that the jews are wrong and the christian and the believers in your show are right okay you have to believe that that one right or apostolic father clement the first of rome it's in daniel 9 the text from verse 24 and 25 24 25 36 is never quoted in the christian bible they just went yeah we do have the exact calculation of jesus's death but there are more important things than that i will say this to you my brother that you're not if you can accept such thing please don't be offended from my heart you're not being honest with yourself you cannot believe that no first century christian thought that would have been important enough to point out okay that you can't and if you can come with an answer to that question you will be the first first person who believes what you believe completely no same one complete the thing the authors of new testament whoever they were believed that daniel 9 had suprise they would have quoted it now as it turns out their new mind very very quickly is a description of a period of 490 years there's a the second template for 420 years the babylonian exile was 70 years totals 490 years and that's what it comes into view for daniel when he's crying out to god why is daniel crying out to god most people don't quote daniel i never read daniel 9 1 through 22. so in truth it's described to us and anointed one and messiah who give the command to rebuild you slime in the temple who is that who is this a an anointed prince royalty who gives the command to rebuild you shall i am who is he there's only one person open up your bible to isaiah 45 1 and accept hashem in your life right now and it says that openly so says the lord he's my who gave the command to rule yeshua that's who it is what the church did was they took the word the word meshiach appears to not 39 times in all 37 other times it's translated as anointed as it turns out the word mashiach appears more frequently in the book of leviticus than any other book because it's the quran who are frequently called the mashiach so in all of the places that all the good christian bibles translated as anointed and only here they translate as messiah capital level those things the catholic letter in the hebrew language they stick it in there then they put a definite article it doesn't even says but to this is a corruption of of epic proportions but i just ask you the question think why would christians in the first century not think this was an important passage to quote the answer is it starts with this with the destruction of the first symbol read daniel chapter 1 verses 1 and daniel 9 verses 1 and 2 and it ends with the destruction of the temple my gosh read verse 26 and 27 the end of this 190 year period is the destruction of the people of the prince who come down with the flood and destroy the sanctuary well what sanctuary was destroyed in year 32 and then so there was none there was no temple debate that maybe she wasn't destroyed for another 40 years that's five more weeks it doesn't work now are you today gonna change your mind are you today gonna turn to torah judaism i don't know but at least i think i implore you from heart to heart please consider my words okay please just take it to heart what other past that's yours apologize this is more psalm 22 is also not stated in the new testament psalm 22 is when yeshua is dying he quotes he starts the quoting of psalm 22 in verse 1 when he says so he quotes he reminds us to the whole psalm but this psalm was changed 1000 years later by the muscle rate attacks and we know that it was changed because it says we i'm pierce in verse 16 i pierced in my hands and in my feet but if we go to a jewish bible or jewish to knock inside we see they have changed it and they say oh there are lions in my head and in my feet but if we go and check later the older uh manuscripts we see that it says it's pierced i'm pierced in my head please tell us there are a lot of hebrew speakers here i mean you're talking isn't important to you could you tell us what is this hebrew word that means there [Music] changing is a youth yeah that made it longer it became a vibe yeah and made the world of being pierced in the hands and other feets meaning now that there are lines on the hands would this make no sense at let me now all so what this gentleman is telling us singer not so quick as it turns out we have a text that's 3 000 years old written by king david and the text this chapter is quoted widely in the christian bible and if you open up our any hebrew bible in the world it'll say in verse 17 in the hebrew bible 16 in a christian bible the fact that you said 16 or 17 is interesting because you distance yourself but anyway because only a christian bible would say it's verse 16 but we'll set aside now it says at the end it says there it says in the text but dogs have a company i've encompassed me a company of evil doers having closed me and the last three words of the texas re your daily like a lawyer they're at my hands on my feet what does that mean no familiar with the chapter you know that the lion theme is everywhere does anybody have it if you open psalm 22 14 for a moment it'll be interesting just keep it there don't go to it yet now you're saying it really doesn't say there it says really not like a lie that might not be but they pierced my hands and my feet which certainly does sound like a crucifixion okay then you said that the hebrew masoretic attacks all have been changed and originally that's what it said before i didn't go into this why isn't this quoted in the christian bible that means if first century christians believed that it's said and that means a real lying and the first followers is yeshua okay i played by the rules believe that said they pierced my hands my feet you have to believe that they didn't think that was an important enough verse to quote not inconceivable number one number two is which thing is not correct as it turns out every single tanakh in or otherwise the next time you're at the western wall you'll go into the men's section that little tunnel that goes in you know on the left side and you walk in a few bookcases down there's an entrance and there's a scroll there okay that's not a mess erratic text there's no vowels there's no dots there's no kudos there's no trap nothing and you'll have the exact same word all messeratic text means is you have a consonant language like hebrew just consonants but you have no punctuation and you have no vowels and of course you don't have to trust the musical notes and all that happened was in the early middle ages mesa writes this tradition would then edit that in just so people could recognize it that's all so of course there was no mesoretic text in the first century they exchanged it but how did they manage to change in yemen yemen there were no christians every single bible in the whole world says the same word in hebrews not one bible ever found says they pierced now i know what you're going to say again and i'll say it don't be offended i'll articulate better than you i'll play the other side of you so you'll go hold on right now as it turns out there is a fragment that was found in heaven now is not as old as as the as qumran so kumara will be first second the secret second century bc not the headers between the two world wars so it's a couple of centuries later and we have a fragment fragment five slash six hev psa column nine and it seems there that the youth of calari foreign is a little bit longer this is what you said i don't want to misrepresent right i'm honest that you you know you take a unit so the earth has a spitzer on the bottom it has a little a little bit right but let's say you take the yolk all the way to the bottom right then you don't have quarry [Music] what does that word mean anybody what is the word in hebrew where i mean standing here in the land of israel filled with hebrew speakers you shall don't tell me none of you speak hebrew what does this word mean nothing it means nothing there is no such word i'm not going to get it you can't have a verb with the elephant and it's the root i don't want to get confident there is no such word word you have been lied to that i'm not done but stay with me stay with me it's not true it's it's being promoted started up by a professor in in in in canada and by i don't know whatever and i've old chapters in my book with the manuscript there is no situation you have been lied to now in order to first of all you have to believe that every tongue in the world messianic members in everybody's room why would they have an exchange nobody look at this one so as it turns out it's not true it's lie there is no situation this is gibberish there is no such word as roof cough aleph does not exist it actually can't exist and i'm not going to get into the complicated ground behind it but this is what i want to say in order to get a word that remotely resemble piercing you not only have to turn the youth into above but you have to move the aleph also when you have the word karoo now we have a word the word karu does not mean to pierce i know you talk this is what they say the word karu means to open to excavate if they sometimes use it like karu bar somebody will translate dig a well it doesn't mean digging in that conventional it means to open to lower but when king david in psalm 40 says that sacrifice and offerings you did not desire but was not encouragingly my ears you have opened me that's the word what does it mean someone stabbed him in the air okay so you should know listen just listen listen i'm not it's not true and prove it's not true is when you go home you take look up if there is a single word in all time there are millions of there are also the three hundred thousand words if there's one other word involved enough that has that word you'll find it's not that you've been lied to you so in hebrew you would never say ko you are diverse it would not make sense to any hebrew speaker there are words to pierce having stabbed through flesh dakar so say yoga who arrived life would be let's say dakai really needs to stand okay he would never ever say it's not true now it is true that david wells is an excavating sound could remotely resemble that's not saying it isn't there and it's you've been lied to if you take the unit and turn it into above you do not have the word pierce it's just not true moreover listen if you open this the same the same um text if you actually look at the fragment you'll see it's almost impossible to read it it and the levers are not uniform like a safety tier would be we have much better uniform text in the density scroll in quran it's and it's also filled with misspellings look it up and you'll see i'm telling the truth and i hope that the next word is my hands if you go to that fragment if you don't have it i'll email it to you the scribe who wrote it now he's right in the middle of a desert so maybe he did a better job than i would do but actually in that first fragment the next word is your dollar good hey i'm not kidding and there it's very clear which means which means her hands the scribe misspelled the very next word so you would know that today is the day to do so it's not true moreover you have to understand this again if this is such an important text a prophecy that the messiah has to be pierced you have to believe that no christian writer in the first century thought that that was important enough to quote and they quoted from psalm 22 the cry of their from mark is in there they they parted my clothing and we finally john zola vassar 22 was cherished by first century christians they think yes the church has lied there's no such word as but if you go to missionary literature instead of going to the original you might find yourself in a little trouble i hope you're not offended if i have offended you in any way what's your first name what [Music] i ask you please forgive me okay i'm sorry i talked to you alone now you had another question i i just wanted to get it up go ahead it was another point the point was that the sages that translated the septuagint into greek 200 years before yeshua came they also translated in that pierced so it was 70 stages so it's lately the septuagint the tanakh into the greek yeah and they all were wrong they closed this is a very interesting question i want to explain this is actually a growing question so as it turns out the roughly a quarter of a millennia before the christian century um he's saying that the rabbis had gathered and they produced what's called the targum shiva the translation for the the kingdom will calm the king of the egypt the part of the empire was egypt and as it turns out if you open up the septuagint and psalm 22 16 it will say in the septuagint they pierce my hand like me that he's telling the truth it does say that there and my friend was translated 250 years before christianity what then was their incentive to do that it must be that the jews change the text because they didn't want people to follow yeshua right right the answer is not true what i'm going to tell you something you'll look it up everywhere you can open to any septuagint in the world there's no christian scholar who would argue to me now the guy on the street who goes to the hostel the christian hospital they believe that's not true the original septuagint all christians scholars know this was only of the turn of the fight mixed moses now i will tell you this if you go on i'm sure there's a free septuagint somewhere online if you read the introduction to every septuagint in the world it will tell you that in the introduction the original target shipment this is something that's unfortunately people fall victim to the original septuagint was only of the five books of moses it was not of the book of psalms nothing because not jeremiah that was later later radio created and what you have today is the septuagint that you get on amazon is really a production of the church and origen was his primary editor origen is the third century church father that's this greek translation they adopted the name septuagint it's like the word xerox of kleenex that these words even though it claimed there's a company xerox a company but it actually created a big copyright problem for the universe because people say go xerox's paper but it could be a canon copyright so what happened was this saturday of course is very very well known it's discussed in the letter are steve that's brought down and it's brought down all over the place the gemara and megillah meaning miguel the talmud it's all there it's so the five books of moses i encourage you i know you don't like jerome he's a catholic church father but just read his introduction to book of chronicles he discusses extensively and believe me jerome was not a big fan of rabbi tobias singer joseph says the same thing they all say that what i'm saying now is every christian scholar knows this but the unfortunately missionaries exploit this it's not true the titan was not in the book of psalms and in fact we do not have a septuagint today it doesn't exist because the library to which it was put in was burned down to the ground if you have the original what is called technically amongst cells the protoceptive agent you're a very rich man it would it will be a priceless thing in christie's because no one has it and what we have today is a christian product and what they did was they went back and said let's look at all these christologies and then listen certain greek words that bolstered the christian claim the septuagint today is a lie and that's why i don't even looking at kidneys you will find one septuagint anywhere it's a product of the church but i'm going to just say this to you in no universe no planet is a translation superior to an original that's not that's called the anybody who's a lawyer here knows what's called the law of best evidence if you don't know what this is that you can't even go to law school the best evidence is when you have a document in the original language no translation could be superior so the answer is that the septuagints of the five books of moses which was not of the five books of the most but when there were greek translations later they put the word septuagint on it without fear of getting sued by people who long dead so the word security became a capitalist but it is not the second and again whichever septuagint you mean you could have the biggest cross on the front of it doesn't make a difference i know you're not but they will say what i said it's uncontroversial so therefore this is shaking because it's not true but if you have another throw me or got somebody else up to you sweetheart you want to think a little bit let me ask you one question would it be meaningful to you i just ask you because i want to know one thing i asked you you asked and i asked you go home this is important to you because you believe do you believe jesus is god and he's not i don't believe in jesus but clearly it's not a good idea spiritually let me just say this to you you have to conceive that if jesus is not the messiah and he's not worthy of adoration in the same worship advocation and one does follow say that he is messiah and he's worthy of my adoration i can pray in his name and so on if if if he isn't it's very bad it's a bad thing right spiritually it's a bad thing if i'm not saying you're wrong you're going to figure that one out but clearly you know there's everything in this thing it's a really bad thing to believe any of that if it isn't true i grant that so i want to ask you this question if tonight you go home and you look up what i said check it out and you find that i've told the truth that everything i said in this journal would you at least consider studying with me a little bit further at least the open mind to the possibility well if i thought all these things were true and it turns out it might not be that maybe other things i assume were correct might not be would you at least consider doing that you're going to be in my prayers so according to this would you just say would be an abomination if you believe it today so what do you say to all this about people so there is a distinct i i'm not going to lie to you um when the rebel who i met many times and loved him very very much and why he thought i was worthy of time with him i'm not sure but i'm very grateful that i did it is possible given that in every generation is someone who is ready to be the messiah in every generation so that's why meshech is called the branch why where's grinch because like a tree has so many branches there's so many people who could be the machete and every generation someone else has to amaze them that possibly maybe if the generation had deserved it then maybe he could have been for that generation i answered you directly but as it turned out the generation didn't deserve it because of what it says in isaiah 59 verse 19 and 20 will vote seeing girl that a redeemer will come to zion to those who repented jacob and the jews were not worthy of him it's possible i don't know this but what happened was unfortunately they were people that whatever the rebbe did that became what the messiah was supposed to do so when he became ill i remember when he had the stroke and then the second very catastrophic stroke where the doctors he was staying at the hospital in new york uh the doctor said he was very very ill and whatever the report was going back many years and there was um not possible for him to recover that means that medically there was medic it was impossible that he was having recovered from that later stroke so i remember in front of the hospital that was in mount sinai so outside the hospital they were saying the rebbe cannot die it's impossible and in fact this will be the miracle those are old enough to remember this no i'm not misrepresenting what occurred they said in fact the rebbe is going to miraculously recover because the messiah can die and that will be the sign that he's the messiah those are the remnant no i'm telling the truth then what happened was he died and i said so then unfortunately a sec from that came out and said ah he's supposed to die so what happened was now i hope i don't know what percentage of people who are laboratories today believe this i hope it's small i don't know i don't know but um it's very clear what happened was that whatever um he did or happened to him defined what the messiah supposed to be random let's go to the text and then say this is what the meshech is supposed to do and that was unfortunate so you you're you're raising a very uh painful moment in jewish history but do you know what a red herring is so a red herring is used was used dead fish stink and when they when they wanted to throw off the blood hands were following the proper scent they would drag a herring across the ground which would then misguide the bloodhounds and they would follow that smell instead of the proper scent so granted that i don't there's not one person in this room that believes this and you know that everyone besides this sect believes this is a tragedy that people still think he's the messiah and the closest people to the rebel like ref karinsky rejected this as something horrible and guess to me you know what they say to me the barbecues say rabbi why don't you speak more about this mischief problem that people say that every still messiah they believe you see disgrace to his memory so this is this is is certainly unfortunate but it is truly a red herring because we don't accept that as a truthful belief now so therefore it's not a fair argument i don't believe it so you you're you're um this is what's called a false dichotomy it's just incorrect we don't believe it and now there are other things about it no one believes it even those who believe it none of them i ever heard of ever told me that he died for anybody sins or any of that stuff so that's not the the we don't have the christologies i'm sorry but it's just the convenient i have to use conventional language none of the christologies are in scots in this movement and i pray that the chabadnicks were doing so much good that those who still hold on to it we're jealous in it of course i do but it is not fair just like you would it would not be fair if i included you in roman catholicism because i don't want to say it but it would not be fair for me to attach you to beliefs that you don't hold right that wouldn't be fair if i said you're responsible what other people do you'd say that you're not being fair i ask you to accord me the same respect and that it's not it's not a fair argument to ask about a group that is um that is very problematic to the religious jewish community it also is not the same okay no but it is a but it is a problem but it is a red herring and you know i don't believe this and maybe i don't think i don't know everyone here but it's very unlikely there are many anybody in here believes that so it's it just would be is if i ask you to take responsibility what someone else believes that you go i don't believe that at all like you said you reject paul right you don't believe that paul was the you know very well that none of the messianics except for a few here and there i know that i met that that baggy night where nine percent of the messianics believed that paul was in the positive you know so therefore i'm just like i according to the respect of not making you responsible don't make me responsible okay fair fair okay let's continue let's change the topic you're very important to me what would you agree would you be willing to i just ask you a question sweetheart would you be willing to i'm going to be hearing ourselves a little bit sit and study with me yes whatever we talk is you and me just like now i'm joking that will really be continuing me because yeah are you asking very important questions and uh if there's any question you would ask publicly now you can because you're more important to me than any i think almost anyone else here because i'm not going to lie to you but if you want you can ask another question now or we're going to move on to the next person do you want to continue you're telling me everybody can make himself a sincere prayer am i right with that say it again am i right with that that everybody that received the room can make a sincere prayer from this heart to hashem yeah and ask him to reveal who is the meshiah and he accept your answer let's say you let's say i i did pray and a voice came to me and said that hari krishna is a true deity and hanuman the monkey god of hinduism is the truth should i follow it you tell me i pray i literally had newman the monkey god of hinduism which is venerated from bali very close to where i live i'm asking you a fair question i'm using your criteria do we haven't ever such a thing or do we haven't done follow your heart because it'll lead you with strange or am i saying that the heart is a very wicked thing like the sooner i laugh with heaven do not go after your heart and lead you astray what should i do if i pray that the virgin mary appears to me as she appears to everybody else over pancakes in the philippines every day so i'm asking you honestly is this really a biblical criteria like what do i do do you if you pray tonight show me the truth and harry krishna came to you would you would you become a hare krishna no so why would you ever ask me to exactly why would but this one you're wrong on it wasn't fair that's let's be honest this one everything else i had to explain things it's you cannot say oh yeah only if you come up with my version of yeshua then follow your heart but it comes with anything else don't follow it we don't have that the bible is our authority yes or no is it sola scriptura the bible alone is authority only it so why would you coming up right tonight and what happens when i pray tonight and i have i have alibaba from india come to me what am i supposed to do go shake my head off and move to india no come on we don't do this we are following the bible here no i have to say say to you you're right be honest that i'm right we don't do such things this is my friend yes this is it that's it that's it no praying for yourself i'm waiting for revelations nothing if the prophet ever had a river like so-called revelation what he said follow what the gods your fathers didn't know don't keep it do not follow the words of that prophet or dream of dreams i am only testing you to see if you really love me we don't do such thing it's not biblical we follow the bible okay fair fair that we're going to talk after a lot of love yes sir and by the way thank you so much for having me yes [Music] a