Q&A on Mishnas Sofrim LIVE With The Pe'er Halacha Rav Dovid Hirsh

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay good morning everyone uh today we have a special opportunity we're learning the mission at study for him we're actually up to the ice nun but we have a special privilege to have on our sheer Rabbi David Hirsch the author of where we've been using his uh volume extensively and we've been uh really our learning has been enhanced by his diagrams I want to thank my friend Dr Tim hustwatzlavski for recommending the safer and uh Dr Pinch has got up especially early to be with us this morning okay um rehearsalita we want to ask you some questions the first one if I can um is not on the sheet um it's when we were when we're learning the ice base and I think this question you answered me but um I would like you to share with the Olam when we're learning the ice base the mission of supreme said that there should be a tag on top of the letter the Russian historical but if in your statement on page 275 and diagram 4 in the picture there are actually two two details one is a little bit of a thorn that's coming out of the edge of the letter and one is a stick with the ball on top so we weren't sure I wasn't sure which one is the tag and right only one of them is attack and what's the other one so could you could you Enlighten us about that please take a look you have you have the big safer look at the very beginning of the safe room yes I see that before they hooked on the page before the hooked on the Chloe yeah right so in the left box right there's a base with the same picture yes you have that yes so by the way Whoever has the safer it's uh it's right before the hakadama there's a few pages called unless you must be safer there are two pages it's a second page second second line left hand diagram foreign it's also in the front there in the hakdama yeah that I asked I asked refrigerator and and it's mono I asked him that you see some people some suffering make a little little tug some people make like a a Mako with a ball on the top and some and some suffering do both it's they're all they're all considered talking they're all considered a talk um are you hearing is it the island hearing I'm not hearing oh no okay now we hear you yeah download cuff has you and hey all have tag him right I don't have time okay so I'm gonna go into another question and I want to thank uh Remini fish for being the cipher of the of the questions I think Mindy asked this question in similar the Macabre says foreign or is that something else page 265. yeah it page 260. pay the macabrez on uh similar involves of gimmons yeah 264. oh in your diagram is 265. have gray background the uh I'll pick a bell I don't remember no you know it's it's I think it's in the Tour by Joseph shimushiraba they have different talking you see all the letters with a gray background yes uh-huh so that's that's different than uh yeah it's uh-huh okay thank you um Rabbi Hirsch I'm gonna put up the questions on the screen now that uh aramendi wrote and uh this way the island could see some of the questions that we were discussing we'll start with one okay we learned that the oak is small on the top of the olive should be in line with the okitsumin at the bottom this is Page 272 to 273. it's diagram nine um throughout the rest of this page and on page 265 we're a sample so I was shown that alif doesn't look like that so how how critical is it that the uh the ukatsum on the top of the alif aligned so look at um on page 365 in the back or above oh yeah uh-huh I see this information is foreign is that if you were to align it then it's in danger of touching the the body of the letter right so what's that what what do you write in dollar here in dollars and I'm saying in this in this picture like the fourth point you write l foreign could you explain that please yeah if he makes it a Commerce and a half like like a picture of darling all right okay then you can I could pull it over you could pull it over but um I I just quoted I quoted from they're they're also you know there but that's what something they don't do it it's not oh it's not uh they don't do it no one does no one did it there there's a bit of alumnus uh uh I forgot to look I'll try and look it up uh I had notes from okay okay excellent um question number two this I think in question number two is probably the area of um our biggest question regarding the ice hey where we learned that the leg under the hay should be directly opposite the edge of the roof and yet if you have an elongated hay so on page 280 to 281 and the mission I study from says if you have an elongated hay so you made the leg in the middle of the hay it's puzzle so you need to scrape it to get the the leg aligned with the edge so what we didn't understand was why is that not classic where you're being Master the hey by scraping um and then we added you know that's a question in and of itself you know why why are you allowed to scrape the roots one at a time okay yeah so look take a look on page 301 yes number 26. um okay yes oh very good because oh so over here Robert here she writes and culture can the camera shine them it's a kosher it's a kosher hey even with the with the regular inside in the middle okay it's a hey and he's making good making it look nicer mm-hmm okay good thank you I mean could um just to respond to ass back here the mission that started from says uh sorry well um I'm on page 281 I'm on the one two three four five six seven eight the eighth line in the mission of by number eight in your state fair foreign okay so let's see I mean and and the reason why you're fixing it reverse is is because you're concerned for the opinion that it's puzzle so then how does it help to fix it according to the opinion as possible it's like is it is that it's kosher oh let's see um yeah it seems like it take a look in picture number 10 right yeah so the answer God inclusive he wrote afterwards so now if you wrote you wrote to fill in it'll be over he can't say can't erase back right right to fill in you have to write considering right so what what should he really do over here you should erase the he's raised the the aleph and the mem and so you can't erase it right so what's the lesson of the Mr suffering foreign afterwards it could be Leia Leia and the shamishem uh a few words afterwards you can't you can't erase back mm-hmm so what what can he do right oh welcome to consider any of your colors a table image Aussie yes sovereign and he couldn't race back there's a shame asham he could even leave the hay like that we were welcome that's going to be he's gonna be possible to fill in then then the mission is Michael to be Sonic that whole that the the rebels even in culture even the middle of the hay so so okay so let me rephrase the question then if you could rely on the resigning that is kosher as is because you're allowed to have the leg a mill the hay then why should you get involved in fixing it how does it help to fix it let's say in a safer Tyra but why are you fixing it because for the reason that it's possible but it's not you're not accomplishing anything by fixing it because if if you're fixing it because you're hush is possible then it's still possible because it's what do you accomplish by scraping the the roof of the hay if it's kosher you don't need to scrape it and if it's puzzle it's going to be lighter puzzle because um okay you know that wasn't our question but now it is yeah yeah let me see if I understand the question it's a coaster hey it's a customer hey no but it's a customer hey oh he wants to make it look nicer um we have we have a few cases like that you're saying even according to the opinion that it's puzzle it still has the tamuna of a hey so it's because you're just fulfilling a halachic requirement but you're not making it happen uh or say again sorry I I just is is what the rough saying that even according to the opinion that the hay is puzzle but it's possible because it doesn't meet a technical requirement but it still has the the image of it hey it still has the tumuna of hey so by fixing it it's because when you make it have the image of the letter right but if you're but this is because it already has the tumunasahe even though it would have been possible without it right take a look on on page [Music] uh number three one thirteen number three okay so over there he has a base and there's an akuda some deer fell inside or on top on the side you can erase it I I hooked us no because it didn't change so oh it's it's a customer bit culture base right but again remember Hearth in this case it's not a kush or hey right you're fixing it because the the mission says it's Sula I'll try and ask someone seems like it just seems like it's um it's gonna be some economic I think what we're trying to say is that even even if you need to fix it because it's possible but it's not possible because it doesn't have suras hey it's possible because it doesn't meet a specific requirement but it still itcher Surah okay well you know I'll try now I'll chronic right now okay uh thank you let's um we're gonna we'll we'll try one more question now um you know one thing I guess which we don't have full clarity on is when you do something improper how much do you actually have to scrape off so let's go to um 291 page 12 uh diagram 12. 291 diagram 12. here with the person was supposed to make a yud and it looks like a small Ahmed all right so the mission aside from says why because otherwise it's it's and if it's a unit of hashem's name you're gonna have to remove the whole urea um so the question is why does one have to erase the whole letter why can't you just do like on page why can't you just do like on the next page diagram one where you take off the ukuts and you take off the the tag like um the Mr Telephone says if it's the universem's name in my yud niramis kalamidash is that why can you always do that it is [Music] no it seemed zestira in the Mr and the Mr suffering right page on number 13 He says you have to miss Alec the urea and then the next page number one he says you can fix it depends how similar it is to the llama the second case is a manira mama it's not a huge then then that's not a problem yeah right because you didn't you never wrote hashem's name right yeah so that right that's not our question we're not asking astero we want to know here he brings us I asked them yaakov Zions he's a perfect in your slime on Stone the last question why why did like in picture number 12 he says to raise the whole earth and then on the next page one is by shamishem to to um just to take off the basil oh my God right right that's or yes that's so yes that's what we're asking yes even though it's it's not Sam Hashem or else it could be but but it's shot but it's what sorry we uh we didn't hear what happened sorry we didn't Rabbi we didn't hear what you said could you say that one more time the answer yes we we try to leave as much as we can that's we see it also bye that um it looks um it's it maybe say it it touches the uh touches the bottom of the the cloth you have to scrape away so we we leave or on the side we we leave the Gog and the regular we leave as much as we can we're postal service but we leave as much as we can by shame machine we leave as much as okay can we could we I'm sorry we didn't we didn't we lost the last few moments by by shamishem we keep its mut we keep as much as we can uh-huh that you mentioned like in uh on page 294 in diagram eight he says foreign yeah okay is that a general rule that that you really are supposed to erase everything and it's only like a cooler to leave a little bit and it's only by the shame Hashem where we try to leave as much as possible uh there's a few factors and above it's done with kasiva akhas that's one so that's another I'm not sure that the business suffering doesn't mention it but it's that's one nikuda and and Monica so really if it's if it's if it's and he made a say you made a race above right you made a long Roche and he made rage milk involved then we it's enough to move out it's enough what we didn't hear that it's enough to if you wrote a race for Markov it's enough to do what he has to movato the whole us oh okay because it's because it's it's okay it's like electricity like it's electricity it's all connected it's it's it's it's all possible the whole cassiva so why buy the final half does some say die big wereas or it's it's a yes mckillan sorry would you um I didn't hear that would you mind saying that last thing one more time yes mckeeling uh-huh okay wonderful oh okay it was a it was great to get your insight into some of the our questions and uh on behalf of everyone we really very much Nana from your safer it really helped us a lot in the learning you really clarified things for us and Rabbi Hirsch when uh when you get the video part working and you could uh so we want we want to apply that to the Macabre also okay okay so when you get your video working you could send me a message and uh you know share with us some different music whether it's for tomorrow or a different day okay I'll try I'll try tomorrow thank you very much thank you thank you thank you thank you for your time and thank you for being mahanas we're clearing okay okay uh you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you byctoranytime.com