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Rabbi Benzion Shafier | A Great Marriage isn't as Tough as it Seems | CHAZAQ
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sh want to thank everyone for joining us
tonight it's very special marriage
work presented by theak
organization am uja and the um if anyone
didn't get a book um yet we're going to
have it after the lecture in the front
um um and um the 10 really dumbb
mistakes the very small couples make
that's schaer is going to be presenting
here tonight I thinkk of course the sh
and all the amazing raban of the for
partnering in this event place of Torah
and T commity let's give Round of
Applause for Beth
Grio want to thank um Amud and danar
there's a table in the back of of course
Lear about more of amazing life saing
life changing programs of mudin umt D if
you want to raise your hand in the back
over there everyone please um thank for
coming and of course learn more about
mood and thank um of course um the uja
and the Sho scha organization and of
course theak organization which house
put amazing programs on like tonight um
sh and event for men women young and
know everybody and um and um with a with
a big focus on public school Outreach
with after school programs Sunday school
programs 15 different locations Inspire
hundreds of public school students to
give them a Jewish UC tion and a special
division of public school Yeshiva which
has transferred over, 1400 children from
public school Yeshiva the last five in
the last 5 six years so of course if
anyone has anyone here knows of a parent
of a parent a relative who has children
at public school please let them know
about kazak program give them a Jewish
Education and I think of course we're
here we're here for a marriage Workshop
but of course our our hearts our minds
our souls are are with our fellow
brothers and sisters in arel the land of
Israel and um I think one quick mindset
to have for um for all of us is um a
rabbi he went up recently um to a sh to
his sh members and he said he asked him
three questions he said he said he said
does anybody know does anybody know
anybody who was who was murdered in the
October 7th attack and no one raised
their hands second question he asked was
does anybody have any relatives who who
who was taken hostage and no one rais
their hands and the third question that
he asked was does anybody have any
relatives who are in the Israeli Army
and and right now they're going they're
going in and and only a few people
raised their hands and he said you know
what the issue is you know what the
problem is is that every single person
in this room should have raised their
hands for every single one of these
questions if we realized that these are
not it's not just a news headline these
are our brothers our sisters our
relatives then they would then we would
dve differently we would say to Hill
differently we do mitvah differently so
that's definitely a mindset that we
should all have and um one quick message
I forgot to mention was Amud she could
tell you more about it that they're
having a special um major campaign for
their life-saving U program it's called
unite to heal it's on December 8 17 18th
unit to heal.com of course everyone
should should um be involved and um
without any further Ado everyone please
stand stand stand okay Robbie thank you
we get S we get S please please please
okay so far don't know how to treat
people with cover I come from an afan sh
come on know you know okay um Can Rob
can you raise the volume a little
otherwise I have to eat the mic
okay okay first of all thank you and the
good and and uh yeah and you can hear me
hopefully right okay what I'm going to
present this evening is some of the 10
really dumb mistakes that very smart
couples make I'll let you know ahead of
time it's not going to save you from
reading the book you still got to read
the book um the copies will be be
available if you don't have one for you
but I'm going to highlight at least five
of the 10 really dumb mistakes and
hopefully we'll get a much better
understanding
of louder of louder louder oh look what
that says a great marriage isn't as
tough as it seems Rob we should lower
the lights a little bit can we lower the
lights a little now he's getting fussy
the rabbi is now getting fussy on it's
all presentation lights lower I'm going
to tell
you but it'll be easy to see the screens
these slides are great I love these
slides just a little bit a little bit
more a little bit lower uh a little bit
lower still oh that's great I love it
I'm loving it great I could see it
beautiful okay closer bring the
microphone Clos Clos please yes speak
louder right okay okay this is the name
of the presentation a great marriage
isn't as tough as it seems so let's
begin in 1901 the divorce rate in United
States of America was 6% the divorce
rate is currently about
50% the question is what changed now
don't get me wrong in the from Community
it's nowhere near 50% but United States
of America and Western Civilization it
is now 50% what change from 6% to 50%
that's the question so I believe there
are four reasons why marriages stopped
succeeding and we'll go through them
very quickly number one the first reason
is that we live in a world that's now
everything is disposable disposable cups
disposable plates disposable marriages
you get married to try it it doesn't
work hey on to the next one my wife and
I were in a restaurant it was in
Manhattan which meant all the tables
were too close we overheard Two Fellas
sitting next to us and one guy says you
know I got married much much too late I
should have got married should have got
married much younger that way I could
have got my first marriage over really
quick when I was Young And my second
marriage I could have start when I was
younger the problem is the other fell
didn't laugh so this is I believe the
first problem that marriage is a
disposable commodity and this we're not
going to solve but it's important to
understand this perspective there's a
second reason why marriages have stopped
succeeded and that second reason is
because society as a whole is tuned into
Wim Wim stands for what's in it for me
what are you doing for me what do I gain
what's in it for for me but it's been
that way since you're little kid since
the time you're a little child the first
question your parents asked what's the
best school for you what's the best camp
for you what's the best situation for
you and that's the way it's been until
now and suddenly you get married and now
it's no longer me it's we and learning
to adjust to that someone else's needs
are as valid as mine someone else's
perspective as valid as mine is not so
simple there's a third reason why
marriages have stopped succeeded third
reason is because people today are so
generally UNH wholesome and emotionally
fragile and this is a major problem
because you see marriage is an
institution but it's not a hospital
marriage will not cure depression OCD
anxiety low self-esteem poor self-image
there's only one thing that marriage
will solve and that is called being
single but nothing other than that will
marit solve now these three problems
we're not going to solve we're not going
to deal with them they're social issues
and we're not going to solve them now
but there's a fourth reason why
marriages have stopped succeeded and I
think that one we can deal with that's
the fourth
reason I have now counseled hundreds and
hundreds of couples and on a regular
basis on a regular basis I'll say to my
wife when we're finished I'll say to her
you know something they are a match made
in heaven living in gim they're
perfectly matched like two pe's in a pod
the only problem is they don't know what
it means to be married and they're
fighting and screaming and yelling but
they're perfectly aligned they should be
a perfect match a match made in heaven
living in geham and my friends I believe
that 80% of the G written in our
community should not be they should not
be and it's not like AEM stopped knowing
how to make matches it's that people
stop understanding what a marriage means
and this fourth area a lack of
understanding what a marriage needs
we're going to deal with tonight and
hopefully that we can solve okay so
we're going to deal with some of the 10
really dumb mistakes that very smart
couples made so let's begin par opens up
with Abra ainu raising his eyes looking
on the horizon he sees three wfirs to
him they're just Arabs Crossing he
doesn't know that he welcomes them in he
stands over them like a waiter he
prepares a meal he prepares food he
prepares beverage he stands over them
and waits for them to eat while they're
eating one of the M
say where is s your wife
says she is in the
tent now Rashi makes an important
observation these were Mal didn't know
who they were but they were the highest
level they knew exactly where was why
did they ask that question so that he
would
answer he would say he she's in the tent
by saying that she would he would
recognize heras to a greater extent they
asked the question so he could
answer to make her more beloved in his
eyes when he would say she's in the tent
she's a modest woman she would find more
favor in his eyes by doing that okay now
my friends let's think about that for a
minute the man welcomes you in prepares
food prepares bever stands over like a
waiter and you ask about his wife the
question is rude it's not very polite
why are they asking
that and if you'd like to understand why
it's particularly a question the morale
says in the course of history there
never was a bond of connection between
husband and wife as it was between abam
and S you see what's the greatest
obstacle to a successful marriage if I
ask you what the single biggest obstacle
to successful marriage
anybody I'm sorry communication
communication okay communication we
going to get to I believe the first
problem with any marriage is if I'm
self-centered if the world begins and
ends in my dalas if I'm the center of
the universe I am a difficult person to
be married to here we're dealing with a
the Paradigm of giving loving kindness s
you may his equal to perfect sikim again
says morale in the course of history
there never was a connection never a
bond between husband and wife as it was
between and S why did the have to ask a
question that's
rude being about to make her more
beloved in his eyes they had the near
perfect marriage it sounds rather
unusual but if this doesn't trouble you
let's follow the story line a little bit
s was in the tent and she overhears a
conversation one of them say next year
this time you'll have a
child Sora laughs inside saying how
could this be V my husband is to
old right s laugh and saying it can't be
my husband's too old Hashem comes back
to and
says s why did SAR laugh saying that she
is too old now if you notice what what
SAR said Adon my husband is too old yeah
when Hashem said it back Hashem said why
did SAR laugh saying that she's too old
Rashi points out sh changed what
happened why because is allowed to
change for sh
in plain language hasem lied if it could
be hasem changed the truth why because
you're allowed to lie for Shas I heard
my
re ask the following question when do
you say alive Shas it's GNA be a fight
there going be a squibble it's gonna be
some big big deal right let's say Abu
heard Sarah say my husband is too old to
have a child do you think he would have
gone to Pieces sah called me an old man
was a giant of a man he was at this
point one of the wealthiest alive he was
one of the most powerful men alive he
was also every year of his life was
another tremendous accomplishment by the
way he also is 100 now he has another 75
years to live so let's say s had said
he's too old you think he would have
gone to Pieces so question number one is
why did the MIM asks a question that
seems to be rude and question number two
is why
did right question number one is why the
Angels make him more beloved question
two is why did hasm ask question seems
to be rude okay we got those questions I
don't got the slide but you got the
question okay good here we go let us
begin ladies this one's for you um what
is the leading cause of divorce today
the leading cause of
divorce anyone miscommunication
miscommunication okay leading cause of
divorce lack of respect lack of
perspective gentlemen leading cause of
divorce today ego ego ego is a big one
ego's a big one I believe that this is
not the biggest cause of divorce if
you'd ask me what is the biggest cause
of divorce and by the way usually people
say
things like children money in-laws
religion I believe all of them are not
true there's one single cause of divorce
today the largest by far and that's
something called fighting fighting yeah
but Rabbi it's fighting about the the
children the money the in-laws Etc no
it's never the issue it's how the couple
deals with the issue it's never the
children never the money never the it's
always how the couple deals with it if
there is a climate of love in the
relationship if you guys are best
friends you figure out a way my way your
way we figure out a way way but the
minute The Climb of that relationship
starts to whack starts to fall apart
then suddenly everything falls apart and
this is my friends one of the most
important things to recognize love and
friendship and particularly love is the
key to successful marriage and I'll
share with you how I know this to be
true 70% of successful marriages have at
least one irreconcilable difference
what's an irreconcilable difference a
difference that can't be reconciled so
for instance he has a business in
Manhattan she has severe allergies
she needs to live in San Diego Chicago
doesn't cut her for either one that's
irreconcilable right he wants to bring
the kids up in aish way she wants to
send them to regular Yeshiva you can't
send the kids to Yeshiva with long curly
payis on one
side right that's an irreconcilable
difference 70% of successful marriages
have at least one if not more
irreconcilable difference yet how is it
possible that they're still successful
because it's never the issue it's the
climate of the relationship if there's
love if there's friendship in the
relationship my way your way we find a
way but the minute that love starts to
disappear then suddenly everything is a
fight and there's always what to fight
about John Gman is a marriage
researcher he has studies he can show
with 94% accuracy whether a couple will
be divorced in 5 years or not and I want
to explain to you how he does it he
explains he brings a couple into his
room and he videotapes everything he
puts special monitors on their wrists to
monitor their heart rate their
respiration he watches everything when
he asks him to talk about three topics
one topic is a neutral topic something
just you know no one cares about another
topic is something mutually pleasing
they both enjoy talking about and the
third topic is what he calls a Hot Topic
something that they typically argue
about he videotapes it studies it and
with 94% accuracy can tell whether
they're going to be divorced and
explains what he looks for he looks for
one thing only
contempt contempt is that it's not
hatred it's not anger it's that rolling
the eyes he says if he sees sees one
sign of contempt without five positive
signs corresponding to it that couple is
in deep trouble that couple will end up
being divorced within a short amount of
time you see my friends Hollywood got it
100% right but Hollywood got it
backwards in the world of Hollywood Boy
Meets Girl that she looked into his eyes
and they fell madly passionately in love
right they fall in love you fall out of
love you fall in love you get married
you fall out of love you get unmarried
it's a mystery of life we don't
understand something my friends I'd like
to share with you Hollywood got it 100%
backwards you see they got it right
though love is the glue of a marriage
it's not the reason I pick this person
it's not the criteria for selection but
once you're married if you don't work on
the bond if you don't work on the
connection if you don't keep a vibrant
powerful Bond of love in your marriage
you're going to be very distant very
apart and you're going to have a lot of
trouble but this is the point love
doesn't happen love is built and we'd
like to know the answer to this Rashi
the MIM felt you gave us food you gave
us something we want to give you back
something you have the near-perfect
marriage 99.9%
Perfection want to make S more beloved's
eyes why because love is the essence of
a marriage and as great as a marriage
was the MIM wanted to give more love
increase that love they asked that
question to make her more beloved in her
eyes and I heard my re explain why is it
okay the answer to Rashi is that theim a
want to increase the bond number two I
heard my explain that if s remain if AB
heard s say he's too old he would have
gone to Pieces but it made a tiny
scratch a tiny little scratch s said I'm
too old somehow it made a tiny scratch
and gentle my friends this is the
message number one love is a glue of
marriage number two shom bias is Holy so
holy that AEM himself is willing to lie
to keep Shalom even though would AR
would not have gone to Pieces would have
made a big fight but would made it
almost imperceptible scratch that's how
important shom bias is number one love
is the glue to marriage number two sh
bias is Holy and Hashem will lie if it
could be to keep sh bias okay now here
we go I get the phone call I get these
phone calls only too often and it sounds
something like this Rabbi thank you for
taking the call yeah what could I do
well Rabbi it's my husband okay what's
the problem well the problem is he's a
good guy he learns he doin he's with the
kids he has a good job he's responsible
I said it sounds pretty good well what's
the
problem the problem
is I don't love them I don't love them I
say okay how how many years you married
10 years how many kids five kids so what
do you do what do you say to a woman
who's married for 10 years has five kids
and she says she doesn't love her
husband so I'll share with you what I
usually say I asked her the following
question I said Madam tell me something
last month how many times did you and
your husband go out but go out doesn't
mean to a bar mitz or to a wedding or to
your in-laws how many times last month
did you and your husband go out to
connect to bond to be a couple together
the answer is we didn't okay the month
before that how many times did you go
out we didn't the month before that how
many times did you go out we didn't
month before that by about 7 or 8 I
stopped I say Madam don't you understand
you're like two ships in the night I
don't care how aligned you are I don't
care how much you love your kids I don't
care how much you want a happy family if
you're not going to work on the marriage
if you're not going to spend time
together you're going to be distant and
life is going to be very difficult and
this my friends is the first really dumb
mistake that very smart couples make not
working on the marriage forgetting that
love is a glue of the marriage but love
means taking the time spending time
together being together and it means
everything that a couple in love should
be doing the many vacations love notes
gifts date nights texts during the day
everything a couple in love should be
doing um now I become unpopular you
ready
gentlemen good for
you I better move to the
side it is a husband's role to romance
man his wife gentlemen you are
responsible to plan the date you are
responsible to buy the gifts the cards
[Applause]
and why are they
clapping you guys are doing such a great
job of it already why are they clapping
I don't get it I understand my wife's
not here you
notice but gentlemen do you hear what
I'm saying it is your responsibility I
love it when guys say I told her that
anytime she wants to go out just plan a
date and I'll be there you blew it what
your wife wants to know more than
anything is that you cherish her you
love her that she's number one if a
woman knows that she's cherished she'll
be happy she'll be fulfilled if she
doesn't it's going to be very very rough
I want to share with you a letter this
is an igis that the styler wrote and I
want to read it to you the ston wrot to
aaras he says the main hope of a woman
in her world is to have a husband who
loves her when she sees that this isn't
so it crushes a spirit and can be close
to P you hear those words what your wife
wants to know that you love that you
cherish her well she should know it
because I'm working so hard for the
business that's very nice but if you're
not spending time with her if you're not
sending text and flowers taking your out
if you're not doing all the things a
gentleman should be doing well guess
what she's going to become very unhappy
and here let me make it simpler
gentleman would you like to be happy yes
if you don't want to be happy go like
this go no I don't want to be happy go
anybody want to be
happy yeah yeah yeah a happy wife is a
happy life I'm telling you guys this one
is so easy I'm going to beat the women
up soon enough don't they're not getting
off the but I'm telling guys this is so
easy and so simple all you got to do is
shower her with love shower her with
attention and she changes I can't okay
ladies don't listen to this part I used
to run a group I called it how to tame
your dragon I had so many guys who
complain she's a witch she fli on Brom I
said okay great I did I did a whole
session I did about 14 sessions with
these guys I called it how to tame your
dragon and I explained to him the great
you SW If You Treat Her Like a Lady you
take her out you spend time with her you
send her love notes and text you show
her that you cherish her she changes
from the fire breathing dragon into a
nice little p oh but wait ladies don't
laugh so fast because
[Music]
um all right wait a minute we ladies
going think they're get off the hook
tonight they're not they're not but okay
anyway this is it thank you for starting
with the men okay I supposed to be
ladies first isn't
it well all right but okay sorry does
this count as a night out
no no
no a night out let me explain to you if
you're both looking this way that's not
you got to be looking this way if you're
looking at each other it's a night out
if you're looking at the screen if
you're looking at a rabbi talking that's
not a night out it's talking to each
other okay so this is it you got to make
your wife happy and it means a man has
to show his wife in words deeds and
action that he cherishes me do you
understand how big this is guys I I this
one's a real it's it's like it's
incredible okay um okay by the way
there's one little problem here the
single biggest competitor to your
marriage is going to be something you're
not ready for this one ladies the single
biggest competitor to your marriage is
going to be your children now don't
going to be wrong children are big br
the biggest BR you can imagine but
children demand a lot of attention a lot
of resources a lot of and they're always
there and always and if you don't learn
to set boundaries if you don't let to
set learn to set a time Tuesday night is
Mommy and aba's night out but but how's
my rookie going to do
homework how's David going to know all
his math I guarantee if rookie doesn't
know every ran if D doesn't know all his
math they'll be fine solid people but
you see if the marriage starts to fray
then their basic everything they rely on
starts to come apart you see when you
when you when children are little you
guys are 10t tall you're the center of
the universe and if the marriage starts
to fray and you guys start to squibble
start to fight before you know it the
kids have a sense of nothing is
guaranteed nothing is secure the single
best invest investment you can make in
your children's being wholesome happy
people is your shom bias the single best
investment in your children's success is
a shom bias in your house because that
will guarantee that they're wholesome
happy people if you say you love your
kids don't say I have no time to go out
if you say you love your kids then make
time to go out makes time for everything
that a couple in love should be doing
and this is the first of the 10 really
dumb mistakes that very smart couples
make but let's move on to mistake number
two mistake number two let me share with
you two scenes I'm going to share with
you two scenes and I'm going to ask you
what the difference between them are
here's a young man walking on this side
right next to him is a young woman as
the young man walks he trips and she
says I are you okay are you all right
that's scene one scene two same couple
he's walking down the street she's
standing next to him he trips cluts
what's wrong with you can't even walk
down the
street what's the difference between
scene one and scene two marage seen one
their and kala scene two they married
already three years yep and this is
mistake
number mistake number two mistake number
two is forgetting that respect comes
first you see it's love and respect you
see you could love your spouse you could
really be dedicated to your spouse but
if you're not treating them with respect
it's going to be very difficult for them
to love you and it's love and respect
and respect means working on it I'll
show you what I mean let's go back to
another John Gman study John Gman when
he brings those couples into his lab he
also does another little experiment when
they're both sitting facing each other
when they finish speaking he asks the
wife to leave and brings in a woman that
the husband never met before and asks
them to have a conversation then he
brings the um he brings the wife back in
as husband to leave and then brings a
strange man in and basically he's
looking to see how we talk to our spouse
versus the way we talk to strangers and
here's what he finds couple after couple
whether newly married or married many
many years invariably we are more polite
to strangers than we are to our own
spouse we argue less with strangers than
we do with our own spouse and even worse
if we ever do argue with a stranger
we'll be far more quick to accept their
position than we would our own spouses
and my friends what that means is you
have to really work on the respect I've
heard couples sometimes that make my
hair say things that's the dumbest thing
I've heard that's stupidy that's
ridiculous do you guys like each other
if you're not you see you can't be
formal in your marriage you got to be
comfortable you have but you also have
to remember that the person you're
speaking speaking to is the most
important person in your life by the way
as an aside when my wife calls my name
in I run we're now B we're married 36
years now coming up to 37 I love my wife
we're happily married she's not here to
argue with that fact um yeah you notice
no she even says she sometimes shows up
and she'll actually admit okay but
anyway since since since our first kid
when my wife calls my name I run maybe
he thinks she's a tyrant Maybe she's a a
witch why do I run because I want my
children to see that when mommy calls
ABA even ABA comes running CU I want my
kids to respect their mother do you hear
what I'm saying I want my kids to see
that Mommy is a person to be respected
and the way you treat your spouse
whether it's a wife to a husband or
husband to wife will tell your children
in bigger letters than anything else you
can imagine who that person is are they
worthy of respect you see my friends you
create the culture of your family you
create the attitudes and if you're going
to treat your spouse with disrespect
your kids are going to learn is the
worst lesson imaginable and that is a
spouse is not worthy to respect and this
is mistake number two so mistake number
one is not working on the love and the
marriage love is Center Key mistake
number two is not working on the respect
but let's move on to mistake number
three to the understand mistake number
three let me show with the background I
believe there are three pillars to a
successful marriage the first pillar is
commitment commitment comes from the
understanding that Hashem doesn't make
mistakes Hashem found the perfect one
for you it may not fit perfectly now it
may take some growth on your part it
makes take some growing up and some
changing but Hashem knows very well what
he's doing and the first pillar of a
successful marriage is commitment that
comes through knowing that hasem found
the perfect match for you the second
pillar of a successful marriage is love
that's the everything that a couple in
love should be doing and everything that
vibrant Bond of love does however here's
the problem there are many couples who
are very committed to the marriage they
also love each other but they can't seem
to learn to live together and this is
the third pillar of a successful
marriage learning to live together and
this is the biggest one because my
friends this is the real hard one it's
very easy to be committed to the
marriage it's even easy to be in love if
you do the things you need to but
learning to live together is not so
simple and I'll share with you why
Elizabeth Newton earned a PhD from St
Stanford University for a very clever
experiment she created two groups one
she called the tappers and she other
called the listeners the tappers job it
was to tap out a song and listener was
supposed to guess the song and she made
a list of 50 very well-known songs Happy
Birthday stth bangle Banner Etc and she
asked the tappers to tap out the song
and she asked the listeners to Guess the
Song now here's the interesting part you
can watch the videotapes the tap will be
tapping it The Listener just doesn't get
it here's the interesting part only 2 5%
of the time did The Listener ever guess
it correctly and you probably can
understand why imagine I tap out a
song I don't know if that's Happy
Birthday start B ban I don't I can't
tell what it is right so it's pretty
logical why only 2.5% of the time will
little listeners guess it correctly but
here's what she did she asked the
tappers to guess what are the odds that
the listener is going to guess almost
everyone said at least 50/50 and you
could see the Tapper as they're tapping
the song
looking at gas how can you not get it so
obvious it's it's happy birthday how can
you not get it but you know what she
earned the PHD for the reason behind it
you see when I tap out the song I can't
help but play it in my own mind and when
I play it in my own mind it's so obvious
it's so clear how can you not get it how
could you be so
daed and my friends this is the third of
the 10 really dumb mistakes that very
small couples make assuming that my
experience defines reality if I think
something obviously you think that if I
feel a certain way obviously you feel a
certain way and more than anything if I
know something it's obvious and proper
and clear that you know it as well and
if you're wondering what I mean let me
share with you two examples as I say in
real life the first one is a little bit
interesting it's not such a big deal but
it's an interesting one to me um today
is much shabas every shabas from I don't
know how many for decades now I get up
very early I learn the house is quiet
it's Maha and later on in the morning
I'll bring my wife a coffee in bed she
likes to have a coffee and to this day
as I'm preparing my wife's coffee I
reach for the creamer and I stop see
everyone knows that that coffee tastes
better with full fat milk at least to
creamer right and as I'm reaching the
cream I have to stop why because my wife
likes her coffee with skin milk oh but I
want to give you a good what tastes
really good I want to give you 4% fat at
least come on what do you understand
what I'm saying I know what tastes good
and I want to give my wife the best cup
of coffee the only problem is she
doesn't like her coffee that way and
understanding that my experience is the
way I experience things but that doesn't
mean my spouse experiences life the same
way is a huge huge part of any
successful relationship but especially
in marriage but this is a very small
example I want to share with you a much
bigger example here we go fellow's
married 6 months he's in Colo he's
learning col he comes home at 6:30 at
night as about to put the keys in the
apartment door he says to himself ah bar
I married such an intelligent woman not
one of these flighty Dames not one of
these emotional
wrecks he opens the door for his
apartment walks in and sees his wife up
on the chair what is it what is it what
what what what over there what a
cockroach what a
cockroach
huh huh do something
please uh you can come down now
okay listen he doesn't say anything
flighty name emotional R he doesn't say
anything about okay two weeks later he's
in Cola he's a mosit he doesn't even
take a phone into the basement manage
with him a friend of his comes over the
phone and says doid your wife's on the
phone pick the phone what is it what is
it here D please come home why what's
the matter what's the matter there there
are two of them please come home please
I don't believe it she wants me to leave
the basement stop learning to kill two
stupid
bugs steam coming out of his ear gets in
his car drives home puts his key in
apartment door opens the door there she
where are
they turns around walks out the door I
hope you're
satisfied ladies and gentlemen who was
right who was right neither one of them
who was right listen on the one hand
she's terrified on the other hand you
want me to stop learning stop something
Point come home just kill St two stupid
bugs who was right who was right is an
excellent question to ask in a court of
law Maybe at divorce court but who was
right is a terrible question to ask in a
marriage a far more productive far more
helpful question would be what were they
each experiencing so let me share with
you I don't know why this is but girls
tend to be afraid of bugs B I have four
daughters and two uh two boys now I
don't know why but whenever the girls
had a bug in the room they call that
baby brother they just have to make sure
it didn't eat the bug but they were
terrified of bugs and the boys are and
why that is I can't tell you why but
that's certainly way it is in my house
but here's the reality she up on that
chair was terrified the mistake that he
made was he judged her based on his
experience his experience is bugs are
not scary if you would like to know the
coraly story if you want to know what it
was really like imagine we change the
scene a little bit imagine it's he home
alone in the apartment but instead of
two cockroaches there were two German
Shepherds would he be up on the chair
uh-uh he'd be out the fire escape down
the block because German Shepherds are
very scary that's your experience but
your experience doesn't Define reality
that's the way you experience things and
learning that the way I experience
things doesn't mean that's the way my
spouse experienced things is a very very
huge part of life a huge part of
understanding what life is about terror
terror that's what she's experiencing
right by here's the German Shepherd one
see
that but this is the punchline my
experience doesn't Define reality that's
by the way how many times have you
rolled ladies how many times you rolled
your husband your eyes at your
husband why is it acting like such a
creep such a cruel cold callous creep
why is he acting that way what's the
answer not that he's a cold callous
creep no he's a guy L gentlemen you ever
have a sense that she's a nervous wreck
or she's emotional what's the matter
with her what's her problem you know her
problem is that's the way she's wired
and understanding that my spouse is
different than I am understanding that
my spouse has a different experience
understanding that my spouse of
different thoughts different feelings
and understanding they're valid because
that's the way they feel is a huge part
of a successful marriage now would you
like to deal with this problem in a
serious way here we go what are the two
most two most important words in your
marriage let's open this up to the floor
two most important words in your
marriage let's start with the gentlemen
gentlemen two most important words in
your marriage are yes
dear I love it I love it yes dear or how
high should I jump yeah no no no okay
that's good yes dear is a good one okay
ladies what are the two most important
words in your
marriage I love you I love you is not
two it's it's important the very
important good words what I'm sorry I'm
sorry are very good words by the way
what are the two hardest words to
say no I'm sorry it's not so hard I
was I know I was wrong she knows I was
wrong I know she knows it but I can't
say the words I was wrong I say I'm
sorry I feel bad but I was okay but even
that's not the most important words in
your marriage would you like to know
what the two most important words are
not please not thank you not okay I here
I'll say to you what they are every
scientific discovery was preceded by an
expression almost every scientific
discovery was discovered by an by an
expression and the expression is not
Eureka the expression was that strange
that's strange meaning a guy took
Chemical X chemical y mixed at expected
Z and got something altogether different
he begins looking into it and he
discovers a different type of rubber a
different type of penicillin was
discovered that way um almost every
Discovery in science was discovered by
the words that's strange and then the
person digs in to understand things
better and my friends the scientific
curiosity is the key here would you like
to be happily married this is one of the
keys to be happily married the next time
your wife does something that's
absolutely inexplicable or better yet
ladies the next time your husband acts
like a cruel cold callous creep I want
you to ask yourself the following
question you ready for this ladies
listen carefully is he a nice
guy is he a nice guy answer to yourself
I hope the answer is yes most women will
say yeah he's a nice guy so here's a
question if he's a nice guy why would
act so cruel cold and callous and the
answer is what is the answer it's not
typical it's it's not what it's not
typical he's usually okay he's usually
good but that's strange that's strange
when I say that's strange why would she
act that why would he act when you say
that's strange you're able to climb into
the inner world of your spouse you're
able to understand the world from their
perspective and you're able to actually
deal with things in a mature rational
way instead of reaching conclusions like
she's a witch he's a creep whatever
instead if you climb in you say the
words that strange you step back and say
but one second I want to be very clear
here you say the words to yourself okay
you got to say this to yourself that's
strange and ask yourself why if he's a
nice guy why would act way if she's
normally so balanced why is she acting
that way when you step back and say
that's strange to yourself you find that
you might actually understand your
spouse and that is you might understand
the inner World okay so we got three
mistakes number one is what
not working on the love and the marriage
number two is what respect not working
on respect number three
is that strange mean my assuming my
experience defines reality you know you
know what I mean by that the way I
experience things is the way they are
that's obvious and obviously everybody
feels the same way I do okay that's
mistake number three let's move on to
mistake number four okay here this one
is for the ladies ladies what is the
most important ingredient in a
successful relationship respect respect
yeah okay communication communication
thank you communication okay gentlemen
what is the most important ingredient to
a successful
relationship so let me share with you
something very interesting I've assess
to thousands of people and what I found
is something I only discovered this
after I read the study Ted Houston is a
psychologist University of Texas he
studied 264 couples in depth and he
asked them this question what is the
single most important issue for the
satisfaction relationship and here's
what he found almost all the women said
communication almost none of the men
said
communication oh that's very interesting
and in fact what's even more interesting
is probably the most common complaint
that marriage therapists hear from women
is we never talk but the most common
complaint that marriage therapists here
from men is all we do is talk talk talk
talk talk right now somebody's got it
backwards either always talking or never
talking but what right so what's anybody
know right you hear the Kasha okay would
you like to know the answer to this
question all you got to do is go to a
Kish go to a Kish shabas morning and
listen to the men speaking and listen to
the women speaking and you're going to
hear something very different listen to
women speak You're going to hear
something like
this
oh oh great talking to you okay let's go
over to the men's side men's side sounds
like
this
great talking to you okay why is it that
women make all those sounds oo the
a you need a lexicon just to interpret
what this I don't even know the language
why do they do that it shows that you're
listening oh because women talk to
communicate to bond to connect why do
men talk men talk to share ideas
Concepts one second one second here we
go I I I used to face this it took me 20
years my mother passed away 26 27 years
ago now I realized only after 10 years
of marriage maybe more that I owed her a
huge huge apology why every Thursday
night I call home and I would get that
question that every yes fears what's
new uh we learned the new toas we
learned the mar I got stuck on the
what's new I don't know what's new I'm
learning I'm what what's new it took me
20 years to finally figure out what she
was asking asking her son left home went
to Yeshiva and she wanted to be part of
his world she wanted to be in my life
she wanted to know what I was involved
in because she wanted to share she
wanted to connect and this is the great
secret men and women talk for very
different reasons here here we go
Deborah tannan is a professor of
linguistics at Georgetown University she
wrote a number of very important books
one is you just don't understand and she
studies why women talk and why men talk
and here's what she writes why do women
talk they talk to create the
relationship
that means they talk to share to bond to
connect and therefore what they talk
about is what do they talk about all the
things that women talk about people
occurrences what happened what she said
what he said Etc good why do men talk
men talk for a very different reason the
reason why men talk is because they want
to communicate ideas or concepts
whatever may be but that's the point
what men talk about are very different
than what women talk about so gentlemen
we're coming back to you again I'm going
to beat the women up I promise I'm going
to get to them also but back to you
gentlemen one more time would you like
to be happy yes yes yes say no go no
like this no and yes no would you like
to be happy yes let me repeat this one
thing if you would like to be happy a
happy wife is a happy life but therefore
you got to know how to talk to your wife
you see mistake number four is not
understanding that communication means
something very different to a woman than
it does to a man guys a very happily
married on a very regular basis I get a
guy who's happily married in fact here's
what happens all the time I get a couple
and I'll say to him how's the marriage
good I ask how's the marriage it's
terrible it's horrible wait you guys
married to each other like what's the
deal cuz it's his marriage and her
marriage and if you don't learn to talk
to your wife if you don't learn to
listen to your wife if you don't learn
to communicate in her world in her
language it's going to be very difficult
for her to love you and you have to
recognize that men and women are
different I know the World At Large
would like us to think they're the same
but men and women are vastly incredibly
terribly different in every way shape or
form and if you don't understand that
you need to listen to your wife you need
to talk to your wife you're going to be
very unhappy married so here we go a
couple of tips for talking number one
gentlemen what is the first talk tip for
talking
listen listen do you know here's a study
this is amazing the average person
listens for how long before they
interrupt 17 seconds 17 seconds and then
boom 17 seconds do try to present a
concept an idea in 17 seconds I'm a
rabbi they they cut me down to 18
minutes shab's morning today I went for
26 nobody nobody's throwing me out but
try in 17 seconds to get a concept over
you can't so what it means is you're not
listening so the first tip is to learn
to listen listen to understand tip
number two this is a big one guys this
one I learned the hard way here we go I
was high school rebi for about 10 years
and I made this very interesting
Discovery probably the biggest part of a
high school re's job is to teach you
guys about life you got to teach them
learning you got to teach him about life
I I felt that was my biggest
responsibility anyway guys regularly
would talk to me about problems issues
they'd come to me for advice and guys
seem to be very happy with the advice I
gave them guys would come to me 20 years
later my sh for the advice you gave me
20 years ago I still use today so I
thought I I was able to you know give
decent advice to to the guy okay but an
odd thing would happen as soon as I'd
come home and my wife asked me for
advice she was never happy with my
Solutions it was like my IQ dropped 80
points as soon as I cross the threshold
right it took me 10 years of marriage to
figure it out ladies what's the
answer she wasn't looking for my advice
she wanted to share she wasn't looking
for me to solve a problem she wanted to
communicate she wanted to share what she
was experiencing gentlemen this is tip
number two tip number two is she's not
asking for advice don't fix a problem
just listen how to listen so your wife
how to listen so your wife talks you
have to listen listen listen and how to
talks to your wife you guys know what
I'm talking about no nobody knows what
I'm talking about right here's here's a
good one here's a good one she goes on
and on and on she says you're not even
listening and he says over word for word
exactly what she said and she says that
just proves you're not listening to me
you see anyone experienc that no okay no
oh good good this morning okay anyway
why is that because again it's the
connection it's communication now guys I
can't tell you to learn the whole
lexicon I don't know the language I but
but you got to listen you have to also
share the says you have to tell your
wife where you're going where you're
coming you have to share your world with
her because that's what matters to her
okay that's we've we've beat up the guys
a lot this evening we let's move on to
the women what it's all right no it
really isn't um we're okay with it okay
but this's mistake number four
forgetting that talk means something
different to men than women let's move
on to mistake number five here we go and
this one is for the ladies watch this
one it is my firm belief that every kala
as she walks down the has in her mind a
Point Home Improvement policy and it's
that guy under the who's going to be the
recipient of that Home Improvement
policy first of all the ties are got to
go and they're coming late and the
sloppiness and those dumb jokes forget
about it now we'll give her credit she
behaves herself the first week of the
Chev bras and even the week after that
but shortly thereafter she begins her
home improvement policy You Know M your
your desk is such a mess you'd be much
more efficient if you would just clean
it up and he doesn't get all warm and
fuzzy I guess he doesn't understand what
I'm saying my I mean like you mess is a
desk your whole me life is a mess if
you'd be neater you'd be much more
efficient and he doesn't just warm up
with warm feelings I guess he doesn't
understand m i mean like how do you even
find yourself in the
mess and he doesn't laugh okay so I'll
let you in on the great secret While
most women have a 10-point home
improvement policy it is the most
disastrous thing you can do in your
marriage and I'll share with you what I
mean I get the phone call again here it
happens it's uh it's only too common but
this is basically how it sounds Rabbi
you got to help me what's the problem
it's my husband what's the problem the
problem
is he's 40 years old and he leaves his
socks on the floor and I ask him I beg
him to leave this to pick and he won't
do it I said madam what what do you mean
I scream I yell and I yell I I said
Madam tell me have you ever said it to
him before yeah 10,000 times I tell to
pick up his socks and he still leaves
the socks on the floor what's wrong with
the guy okay so I said Madam I want to
tell you a story I want to tell you a
story I was speaking in a Shai a seminar
and a doctor comes over me and he says
Rabbi you got to help me I'm a physician
I work in the emergency room and I'm
always around around these young thin
pretty nurses I try not to look here's
the problem my wife put on 40 lbs she
had her first kid she put on some weight
she didn't lose that weight she had her
second kid she put on some more weight
she didn't lose that weight she had a
third kid she she's now 40 lbs
overweight and I offered everything I
offered her nutrition I offered her
exercise class I offered a private
trainer to come to she won't do it ra
you got to help me what could I do to
change her how could I get her to
finally lose the weight I looked at him
I said young man you have a choice to
make you either Embrace her as she is or
you
suffer I don't know of a woman who looks
in the mirror and says Ah 40 lbs
overweight gmak that's just what I
always wanted to
be so why doesn't she lose what you
offer a nutrition she off an exercise
class you offered a private train why
doesn't she do it I'll let you in why
she didn't do it because change is not
so simple three kids right now might be
just a little bit too much on her plate
but for whatever which reason I
guarantee she's very motivated to do it
but it's not going to happen now you
either Embrace her as she is or you
suffer I said to this woman with the
socks on the floor tell me something is
your husband a nice guy yes is he
responsible yes does he take care of
things around the house yes so why does
he leave his socks on the floor I know
that's exactly what I'm asking why does
he do it I said manam would you like to
know why because he's a human being all
of us human beings have strengths
talents and we all have deficits guess
what this is your husband's deficit
you're either going to embrace him as he
is or you're going to suffer now this
socks on the floor became a part of
my became a mantra I began saying it
over and over and over and over I knew I
said it a few too many times and I was
speaking in Chicago and um and
afterwards a woman raised her hand and
says RAB schaer do you remember you were
here two years ago I said I do she said
do you remember what you spoke about I
said I don't she said you spoke spoke
about the two the socks on the floor and
it changed my marriage I asked what do
you mean she said well in my case it
wasn't socks on the floor but it was my
husband's jacket Sunday night he'd be
wearing a suit he'd leave that jacket on
the dining room chair Monday night he'd
be wearing another suit you wear that
leave that jacket in the dining room
chair Tuesday night another suit that
jacket in the dining room chair by
Thursday night his wardrobe was entire
wardrobe was in the dining room I said
what used to happen I used to scream and
used to yell now what happens well you
told the socks and FL story so now
Sunday night he puts his jacket on on
the chair I take it upstairs Monday
night puts a jack I take it upstairs I
asked how's your sh B now she said it's
beautiful I asked the women in that
class to stand up and cheer because you
understand why he why does he why what
because that's his nature he has
strengths he has talents he has
abilities and guess what that's not his
strength and my friends I got to tell
you we all try to do we all try to do we
all try to change our spouse change our
spouse and by the way almost invariably
it's my strength and my spouse's
weakness that I feel I'm must change in
her why because it's so obvious it's so
easy for me by the way you ever notice
because it's so easy for me why doesn't
he just change why doesn't she just
change I once had a guy the most
interesting guy he said to me I cannot
respect my wife she's not into Health
Food she's not into exercise she gives
the kids junk I cannot respect her I
said that's very interesting I happen to
know this guy he's the most disciplined
human being I ever met in my life he
gets up 5:00 in morning jumps into a
freezing cold shower just to master
himself works out for 45 minutes plans
his day then goes to Davin the most
disciplined human being I ever met in my
life I said you're being unfair what
comes very natural to you is very
difficult for your spouse don't judge
your spouse by your world don't try to
change your spouse to be you she's not
you and understanding that we're
different understanding that my spouse
has deficits by the way anybody want to
improve their life forget your marriage
let's talk about life anybody want to
improve their life is another yes yes or
no I have an exercise guarantee will
improve your life guaranteed you ready
for this here we go when you go home
this evening make sure no one's around
when you do this when you go home this
evening I want you to look in the mirror
and I want you to point at that person
looking back at you and say these words
I am a difficult person to live with I
am a difficult person to live with I am
what do you mean I my husband my SP my
no I we all got quirks OS syncrasy that
come later come on time we all got stuff
but you see you know why I'm so
intolerant about my spouse cuz my stuff
that's whatever I want that a woman is
amazing I want that a woman who going on
and on about husband this husband that
husband this that and it didn't take me
too long to realize she's a pretty
difficult person so I said to Madam I
hear you have a lot of complaints about
your husband I understand but could it
be there some things that that you do
that might annoy your husband a little
bit she thinks minut she says yeah but
me I got to live with him I could change
oh thank you very much thank you very
much
so my friends this is the bigest S you
ain't going to change your spouse no
matter how much you try no matter how
much you're working no matter how you
try you're not going to change it now
why is this one for the ladies because
most guys when I tell them again and
again and again about 20,000 times or so
they finally get it and they stop trying
to change those spouse I've not yet
succeeded with one woman not once not
once how do I know it's such anemic
problem in women watch this one um here
we go Embrace her she is a sufferer but
here we go I'll explain to you how I
know this watch this
um um I was once giving a five-part sh
bias Series in Brooklyn and because it
was a very large audience instead of
asking questions people write their
questions on cards after and they'd hand
the cards up I'd read the question and
answer them okay so I did my whole
routine about socks on the floor don't
change your spout okay the very first
card that I get from a woman reads like
this what if I try to change him by
being nice no no don't do it it's not
going to work it's going to make him
angry don't do it okay the next next
card I get is okay what if I try to
change him with a sense of humor I say
no no don't do it it's going to wreck
the marriage it's going to ruin the
relationship don't do it it's not going
to work don't do it the third question
this is not joke you watch the video tip
the third question I get is what if I
try to do it with positive
reinforcement no no it's not going to
work it's going to get him angry it's
going to get him upset it's going to
wreck the relationship it's not going to
work the fourth and this is the best one
what if I try you ready for this
consequences oh that's going to go real
well you're not getting lunch tomorrow
unless you pick your socks up oh I think
that would be real good for your
marriage okay so let me make it clear
don't change your spouse it doesn't work
it doesn't work it doesn't work why
doesn't it work the reason it doesn't
work is because it's your spous that's
their nature that's it listen I'm not
talking we all have to work on things we
all have to be careful about our
spouse's feelings and needs I'm talking
about a nature a temperament something
that's natural to them we all try to
change it it doesn't work and that is
one of the most difficult parts of a
successful marriage not changing husband
okay quick recap quick recap love is is
a glue of marriage love doesn't happen
love is built the first really dumb
mistake is what love not working on Love
and Marriage second really dumb mistake
is oh wait wait I forgot one very
important slide
gentlemen um husband's role is to
romance his wife that's a biggie okay
that's mistake number one mistake number
two is what now we're going to respect
in the marriage forgetting that respect
is respect comes first there are how
many pillows to a successful marriage
three three what are
they commit
love and learning to live together and
what's the most difficult problem with
learning to live together it's mistake
number three that's assuming my
experience defines reality the way I
think is the way my spouse thinks the
way I value things the way my spouse
values things if I like my coffee with
creamer obviously my spouse likes it
that way if I'm not afraid of bugs She's
Not Afraid of bugs Etc judging my spouse
by my experience and mistake the before
is what oh this is a good one forgetting
that talk means something different to a
woman than it does to a man and that is
mistake number four right beginning to
talk me something different to a woman
mistake number five is
what trying to change your spouse okay
would you like to have a happy marriage
it is simple as pie ready gentlemen if
you like to have a happy marriage it's
very simple treat her like a queen
she'll treat you like a king treat her
like a servant she'll treat you like a
slave ladies would you like to have a
successful marriage here's the rule
treat him like a king he'll treat you
like a queen treat him like a slave well
I'm not going to tell you what's going
to happen then okay so don't do it but
my friends this is the point when you
understand the relationship when you
understand that you're different than
your spouse when you understand that
your spouse has needs and they're valid
and they're real you begin to work on it
more than anything love is a glue of
marriage husband job is a romance his
wife and let me close with one last
story my re
the for many years was Ill the Ritson
was younger than him and everyone knew
what was going to happen the would pass
away and the Ritson would be left in Al
but that wasn't quite what happened the
reiton took ill and with a short time
she passed away and Thea got up to say a
hesp eulogy for his wife and we were all
there as Yesa Riva got up and said
everything we did we did together we
built the Yeshiva together we built a
tum together everything we did we did
together I didn't have to worry about
anything she worried about me more than
I worried about me she worried about my
medicine more than I everything we did
we did together he must have said that
expression 10 maybe 14 times and then he
said these words I said a hesped I said
a eulogy for my father I said a hesped
for my mother I cannot say a hesped for
my wife saying a hpit for my wife is
like saying a hpit for myself I can't do
it and he sat
down and with those words he defined a
Torah marriage one unit bonded it takes
a lot of work to get there but that's it
one unit bonded connected when you do
the work Hashem helps please take home a
copy of the book and I got one more
thing I want to share with you if you
can't read anyone under 30 in this
audience not too many people under 30 if
you know anybody under 30 if you know
people under 30 cannot read physically
or I don't know what they cannot read
how do I know that's true that book
that's right that you have a copy of so
I can't on a regular basis I hear people
RAB shave a great book what page you up
to page 30 how long have you had it
three months oh I had a guy say to me
he's up to page 12 now it's there's a
table of contents as com it starts on
page 10 how long have you had okay I
realize that anyone under 30 doesn't
read even people over 30 don't read so I
decided I'm doing battle so I came up
with what I call a video book what's a
video book a video book is exactly that
it's a video book it's a it's a book
yeah you'll see what it is I don't know
if you can see it but wait wait this is
the tale of sha and beny con sha and
check all American couple both bright
talented and successful both brought up
in good homes both confident and goal
oriented and both a bit surprised with
what marriage has brought them here's
Shan's
version he was exhilarating he was full
of energy he was moving he gave a sense
of excitement and Adventure but after 3
years of marriage ADHD is driving me
crazy he's always late he never puts
things away and he's constantly
forgetting things he forget the baby at
the store if I didn't remind him why
can't he just get it together and
as his own take when we were going out I
felt like her might and shining armor
she would get nervous and I would step
into Smo things over if something
happened between her and one of her
friends I would calm her down I felt
mble and gallent rescuing Danel distress
but now I feel like her anxiety is over
the
top high drama and she's the queen why
can't she just calm
down Shan and B spend the next 20 years
trying to change each other but neither
of them are successful get it okay got
the joke I'm sorry but anyway the reason
I mentioned it I have copies here um
it's on it's normally it's $50 I'm
selling $25 anyone's interested in a
video book if you're over 30 you could
also buy it um but you know because even
if you're over 30 probably the video
works better than many people than I'm
sorry the show ID the
show no you don't have to show ID but
gray hair helps
so Shabbat what on Shabbat you cannot
watch the video book no you can read the
but you should by the way the book is
good I like the book it me it's it's
more comprehensive than the video book
the video book is more fun especially
you get to watch it together this does
this count as a date watching it
together half a date half a date again a
date means this way not this way you're
still watching in front of you right you
still watch doesn't uh especially when
you go like this way you see the I
talking about you you see see I one
woman who I gave send their home with a
video book and she says you know the
it's terrible it's gaslighting him he's
making him look like he's all right and
I'm all wrong I said oh uhhuh uhhuh I
see what you mean I see uhhuh okay
anyway so please feel free to come over
if you want a copy um if you haven't got
a book you the books are should be
outside I hope Robbie got a book I want
to thank you all for attending and I
want to thank woman what mention a woman
did they here like oh don't change your
husband do you ever find your wife tries
to change that's you get better examples
we're perfect excuse you um see what I
mean yeah I see what you mean is your
wife here yes yes you don't have to
raise your
hand don't raise your hand I once had
that by the way I was once doing a shom
Bas thing inip place and it was a large
large crowd and my wife it was a hotel
and my wife she I asked her never to
come because it's it's not uncom you
know anyway about 45 minutes into
routine she I see her in the third row I
stop I go what what now you know what
it's like to review 45 minutes of
material in your mind and figure out
whether you're sleeping at in the
bedroom or in the couch in the you know
in the in the lobby that night you know
anyway yeah so if your wife is here okay
good no we beat the ladies up didn't we
a little bit yeah don't change your
husband right gentlemen take your wife
out romance ladies don't change husband
everybody's great
[Applause]
okay