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Rabbi Dovid Rube Shovavim Shiur - Why Halacha matters in Marriage - Motzei Shabbos Parshas Va'era
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press people that are willing to come
out on the mat of Shabas to hear a
little bit about the
and apparently I'm sure everybody here
is fasting every Monday and Thursday
throughout the weeks of the but we're
not going to address any of that don't
worry anyway I I would like to start off
with the following a number of years ago
I was with my children with my children
in it was a summer and during that
summer
was an amazing trip at one point
throughout the trip we made a point of
stopping by my Reby's house. And as we
were leaving, my Rebi turned to my
children and he says, "I want to give
you a piece of advice in regard to
marriage. Take this with you and
understand this is the key to a healthy
marriage."
Waiting to hear the words of advice. And
Rebi says the following. He says, "When
you wake up in the morning, turn to your
wife, say you're sorry. She'll know what
for."
And the truth of the matter is is that
it is a tremendous
in regard to having a healthy marriage.
The question has to be common understood
is that why is that something which is
needed and why is it that half the time
that we have conversations
even though we've all heard these books
before the men are from Mars and women
are from Venus we ourselves continuously
go through these things where we don't
understand what we did that was wrong.
We have absolutely no idea. It's not
just a joke that we turn around, we say
that we're sorry, and the next thing you
know, everything is okay. We have no
idea what we did wrong. And the reality
is is that it's something that needs to
be understood. What is that key that
allows us to have what I believe is the
primary points to have a healthy
marriage? And it's interesting thing you
know when we talk about
and the importance of [clears throat]
and that person goes through so many of
the that a person would go through as
through their of the and you talk about
our focus staying away distancing
ourselves from our wives during a period
of time usually close to two weeks
throughout the month and we have our
focus we stay away and what are some of
these harakas
can't have them pass something directly
to
You say to yourself, why not? I go to
the I go to the store and I buy
something and the person gives me change
and the person gives me the change.
Okay, I'll be careful. The person
doesn't pass it directly, drops it in.
Fine. Assuming we're mak on things like
that. Okay, so that itself is not
necessarily an issue. So all of a sudden
it comes over here. I have to keep more
of a distance.
Number one, another you can't sit in the
same couch. If you're sitting there and
it has the same pillows and you're
sitting on one and you can actually feel
when somebody gets off person picks up
off the couch the other one's able to
feel it that's a person can't do that
during that time period a person's a
becomes
and you're going to be a person calls
you in and it's during that time period
what do you do well it's very
uncomfortable so I'm just going to pass
it over pass the baby no you have to put
the baby down have the other person pick
back up and all these things very often
to us sound a little bit strange because
we look at them and we say well these
areas we're staying away but for what
purpose what's the goal over here are
compliments for goodness sake every
single wife wants compliments so now
it's going to come during this time
period no compliments now obviously
that's brought out in the pre-taro it's
a great very good safer person to go
through the typical compliments a
person's allowed to say typical
compliments are not something which is
really an issue in regard Let
me double check. But the point is that
you're keeping a distance. What exactly
does keeping a distance help us in
regard to our marriage and to assume
that and that the we deal with are not
something which are critical for us to
have a healthy marriage is a tremendous
mistake. Kazal understood what is needed
for us to have a healthy marriage and
therefore Kazal institute many different
things that are there for us to utilize
the qualities that our wives have
outside of the physical contact there's
another part which is very na for us to
have a healthy marriage tell you that uh
for for quite a period of time I used to
go to and I would park myself one week
out of the year. I would park myself in
the me area
and I made a point of going to Davin in
the zoo where the over there and I dik
and fisher was the RV that's Dian
Fisher's son unfortunately has passed
and now I think his son is now the RV
over there and I would watch and get
tremendous from him. What was the I
would watch every single day he would
call together his group of Mishnayas. He
would give a share and I would watch
that one day there were six guys that
were there by the shar one day there was
12. There was one morning there was
nobody there. Not one person showed up
to the shar. Guess he wasn't giving up
pizza and French fries. Not one guy was
there by the sh. What did he do? He
opened up his mishn. He gave the sh. And
I'm watching him give a share to nobody
finishes at the time. I sort of look up
at the clock. He closes closes closes
and he picked up and he walked away. I I
had such a from it cuz I was looking and
saying to myself, "Wow, how often is it
that if I have things I'm giving a share
and it drops down to three. Oh, maybe
people are really aren't interested
anymore. I'm not interested in giving
the share then either." And here you
have a person, this is his job and he
and basically he's teaching that we have
a job to do a job. Anyway, so I decided
one day I walked over to him and said,
"Can I walk the RAV home?" So he says to
me, "Sure, if you want to walk me home
like an old shaman, he says, "You want
to like knock yourself out?" That's what
you want to do. Go ahead. So I'm walking
back with him and I said to him, I said,
"I'm a r in America." And he asked me,
"Oh, so what does a rub do in America?"
I said, "I try to give as many shirum as
possible." And then uh you know, you
deal with uh problems, people's
problems. He says, "What type of
problems are there?" I said, "Sometimes,
you know, sham bias issues." So he looks
at me, he says, "What's a shalom bias
issue?
been a rough for so long here in I said
to him I said sometimes the husband and
the wives are not getting along and he
looks at me he says and who said they
need to get along I was like that's
that's a whole new outlook on how on how
to approach the sha issue people come
over we're not getting along say who
said you need to get along like
obviously that's that's much more of a
you shall take on something we got
married we're going to create a family
we have a job to do and that's pretty
much how he was living his life and I
understood now how he was capable of
giving a Mishna share to absolutely
nobody. I have a job to do. That's my
job. I'm going to do it. No matter who
shows up doesn't make a difference. And
therefore from there I got that insight
of okay there is something to be taken
from it which is we have a job to do.
And sometimes you sit down you realize
okay so we're not getting along on every
single nuc
we have to get along. No overall we're
getting along with each other. So over
overall we'll be able to create a
positive environment for our children
for our homes for our families. But it
still found to be a very interesting
take that when a person sits there and
says to themselves who says they need to
get along. This is something that made
me think of uh made me think of the
following. I don't know if any of you
have seen Fiddler on the Roof, but in
Fiddler on the Roof, at one point, Tevia
turns his wife, Tea turns to his wife
and he says, "Do you love me?" And she
responds by saying, "Do I love you? For
25 years I've been washing your clothes.
For 25 years I've been doing this." And
he's like, "Yeah, but do you love me?"
And again, responds back by saying, "2
years I'm doing this and 25 years I'm
doing that." And at the time, of course,
as your kid, you're watching, you're
like, "Well, I get the point." But the
reality is is the following. Sometimes
the actions themselves actually prove
what something really is. So if 25 years
goes by and somebody is sitting there
and taking care of their spouse, that
obviously is something that resonates
that the person cares about you and the
person is focused on your happiness. So
I want to focus specifically on
how it is that is something that
contrary to popular belief will actually
help us in our marriages not only as
restrictions that's not what it's there
for it's not there as restrictions
although [clears throat] I had some when
I was in Kyle we had uh I can say his
name he always used to say it depends on
how you decide to read the words
Right? So you can either learn learn
everything very simply and just say
like don't do don't do and he said no it
all depends on where you put the comma.
You could always go like this is lie
knife
and a person reads it that way
everything becomes another way for you
to do something. Obviously it's not the
but when a person understands that the
Tyra is not there as restrictions but
rather the Tyra is there to create a new
understanding in something that itself
will help us understand how itself is
something that will help us in regard to
our marriages. This week's para
I want to focus on for a moment. I think
most of us when we went through this
parish we have a question in regard to
paro and in regard to his what we'll
call almost lack of the first five times
through the mak parro very clearly has
no problem doing what he wanted to do
which was do not do not let go I'm going
to continue to punish them I'm going to
continue to do the things that I want to
do and then at a certain point as said
was going to take place
And now we start to harden his heart.
And from that point on, every single
time we're dealing with
So what happened to Paris?
Par goes ahead. He's willing to let go.
And if he's willing to let go, you have
to ask yourself, why should he be
punished for the fact that he's not
letting go? He's willing to but just is
sitting there making him not change his
mind. Well, if that's the case, we have
a problem with the so how would we
understand that the basically goes with
the approach but
a person has a desire to go in a
specific direction
allows them to go that way. So therefore
if a person has made up by themselves
this is what I want to do. So at a
certain point says you lost your okay so
the rabb's approach is he lost his he
made it clear time and time again that
he had no interest in letting go and
because of that he loses his
I want to take you to a gumar
the garra talks about and also about
says
Well, he also said
did not do the it was only for one
reason to give an opening for baluva.
Bali chuva want to be able to change.
How can they know if they can change?
How can they know if I've done an a can
change? So therefore
by the ego does the ego specifically
Then the next one
says
and wasn't ready for wasn't ready for
the what was the reason for both of them
to let you know a rabb could do chuv and
to let you know that a y is capable of
doing chuva. So you have two sets of one
set of people and then you have another
person who does an a and the reason why
the is done is
comes a fascinating thing.
[clears throat]
They were strong. They were in control
of their inclinations
and it really wasn't worthy for their
inclinations, their evil inclinations,
the to conquer over them.
It was a decree from the king
that the would be able to control them
like this. There'll be room for to say I
could also do chuva
because if the person does say I'm not
going to go back
will say to him say
they were and yet they still with so I
would learn from here that only if the
forces me to do an a then I could do
chuva that's what Rash just finished
saying
It's a decree from the king that they're
going to be over on the on the otherwise
they shouldn't have been over on
anything. So where's the
is taken away? So I'd like to suggest is
the following and it's pretty much an
approach that the moral has which is
that when it comes to
what is free will? What exactly is it?
It's the free will to do whatever you
want. Where do you have free will?
Desler has required reading besides his
he has a piece called
where he focuses on what is and he gives
the following thought
is when you have two sides like waging a
war when the two sides where the two
sides meet that's where you have free
will. A person does not have free will
under the sides that have been conquered
either by the or by the that's not where
you have you have only on the point
where there's contention meaning a
person goes ahead this is his mushel
person makes up his mind I'm not going
to smoke he's a smoker
not going to vape made up his mind he's
not doing it but he's been doing it for
the last four years so for 4 years
vaping every single day and all of a
sudden he wake goes to sleep at night
and he says tomorrow morning I am not
going to vape and he wakes up in the
morning and he pulls it out and he vapes
he had
say that's absolutely not
good it's it's part of his nature that's
not the place where he's fighting
anymore you want to know where the fight
is the fight is on whatever you're
struggling one day yes one day no one
day yes one day no wherever Whatever
that point is, that point of contention,
that is where you have. But you do not
have on things that are already so
ruggle in you. You're so accustomed to
doing it. That's not where you have. You
could keep moving the line. And it says,
"Therefore, when you have equal pull in
both directions, that's where you have."
So I'll go back to that claw was
standing where by har I ask anybody in
the room can you imagine sitting by
and gave you a fruit do you think for a
second that you would forget to make a
bra absolutely not sitt in front of ki
you're going to make a bra like you've
never made in your life you're gonna
have kavanas you're you mish be like the
tasher rabba making a bra except saying
the words only once right you're gonna
sit there and you're gonna mamish make a
braa like with tremendous kavan.
So you might
was giving us a and now we're going to
go do anel. It's impossible. How could
you do something when you're sitting in
front of it's impossible and that's what
it means that there was a we had control
over our there was no way for us to do
an so we lost our and because we lost
our has to come along and say
to create an equal pull just like it's
so absolute that you won't do an a it
has to become absolute that you would do
an ara now you have equal pull it's not
just onedirectional it's something which
is being pulled in both directions and
that's where you have when parro makes
up his mind over here that he doesn't
want to let go that's not what his
desire was that's not what his interest
was his interest lied in the fact that
he wanted to stay his slaves forever but
when you're being beaten over and over
and over at a certain point you just say
to yourself stop with the patch I'll let
him go to which says no I'm giving you
our question was he lost his no he lost
his while he was being beaten and gave
him back his by being
what does it have to do with us in
regard to our homes
I was sitting by init
and Shapiro got up and Shapiro said a
vart he said quoting a medish
quoted as a medish
I see it's
we say
all of the parts of that
of the is the following
comes along and he explains item
ism.
This is
when is complete? When is it complete?
What's the what's the connection between
and
went on to explain the following? He
says it's interesting that all of the
zooim of the and the took place by a
well always by water. Why is it by
water?
What's the sh is back to
and he said
what is
he t is
m
it's returning back to the person. It's
me of the nephesh. He says there are two
things two things that every single
person was created with. It was taken
away from them and they have to get them
back. We learned of we all learned while
we were in the fetus. We learned
we got that little touch on the lip.
It's all gone. And now we have a
responsibility to get that back. What?
The we learned. And then
so and so is the so and so. What's the
first time this was done in regard to
and wherea come from? A piece of ad. So
by both the woman andra these are two
things that are taken away from the
person and then are returned to the
person.
You want to know when is complete?
When it's m of the nephesh and returns
to the nephesh
n it's a sed of it's the itself and with
the that's how a person has the mashesh
of having that the wife is there
together with them you need both
components cuz both of them are m of the
nephesh that's what creates a solid home
sounds like amuz now we're going to go
back to earlier points and even as far
as the is concerned let ask ask you like
this.
What is real aus?
I'll ask you what's realist what's a
real partnership?
What do we see as a real partnership?
Here's a real partnership. You ready?
Everybody's heard of Michael Jordan.
Even though you guys all think LeBron's
better, but clearly not.
Michael Jordan
one night he scores 69 points. It's true
story. 69 points. Scores 69 points. That
same night this guy Stacy King.
Stacy King is he was great in college as
far as in the NBA.
Wasn't like LeBron, you know. Anyway, in
NBA he wasn't that special. So Michael
Jordan scored 69. Stacy King scored one.
They came over to Stacy King after the
game and they said to him, "How are you
going to remember this night?" And Stacy
King says, "I'll always remember this is
the night that me and Michael combined
for 70."
That is not
Nobody needed that one point. Nobody
needed that. He brought nothing to the
table. That's not real.
And
are they really is on equal footing with
it's not just
everybody has his kasha they're not like
come is much bigger but says two things
to explain what true partnership is like
there's one type of a partnership
where that's what creates true equality
in the partnership and that's what it
means by shuckle
What is that? Says if two people want to
somebody selling a business. So
somebody's selling a business and two
people together say, "You know what?
We're coming up with the capital. We're
going to buy the business." So I come
over together with you and I say, "Come,
we're going to go together. We're going
to go buy the business." And you decide
that you're backing out. I can still buy
my 2% in Liverpool, right? I can still
have my 2% for $6.8 million. And x
amount of years later, it's worth 98.6.
It's phenomenal. I could still buy my
piece without you. Then let me thank you
for getting the reference. So now what
you have is that's a partnership. Oh, we
set out to be a partner. But lisa, I
don't need you in the partnership
because I could still buy my piece even
if you back out. But then there's a
different type of a partnership. And one
may be more important than the other.
Example,
we'll not look at his people. You got
yourself a new car. Once upon a time,
people were very interested in what was
under the hood. That was before all
electric cars, right? So, everybody's
decided what is under the hood. And
you'd have these guys popping over
popping open the front of the hood and
they're sitting there in their in their
tank top and they're sitting there
washing their car and looking at their
at the Hemi and this and that. How many
cylinders and how many pistons and
they're they're beyond excited about
everything about their engine. If the
car was just an engine, would it be able
to go anywhere? Absolutely not. But the
engine is clearly the most cautious.
Nobody ever popped open the hood of the
car and looked at it and said, "Look at
those belts and hoses." That is
something to really notice. Did you see
that? I mean, I'm just looking at the
transmission. Even that, nobody's
looking at the transmission getting
excited. They only notice the
transmission when it fails. Nobody's
looking at the transmission. But the
engine, ah, the kashas of an engine. But
in order for the car to work, you need
all the components in place. And if you
don't have all the components in place,
you don't have a car that's working says
that's what it means by
are
because even though MOA was bigger, but
it couldn't work together without Aaron.
You needed a proper
a proper creates that both sides are
bringing something to the table. What is
that?
Not agreeing.
When you're always agreeing with each
other, that's not doesn't create growth.
Last question. It's called aerd.
Wife is referred to as
she's your aer
she becomes your connector.
Many people
many people feel that the wife is always
a connector. No matter what I'm doing,
everything is always against. Why in the
world that you keep disagreeing with
everything that I say? Why do I have to
wake up in the morning and say I'm sorry
and not knowing what I'm saying I'm
sorry for? Why do I have to do that? And
it's an interesting thing. Some people
go through life literally feeling every
single move is always going to be
connected. Is it really connect? And
what does it mean to be an aer?
So when we think about what it is to be
an Azer to really help,
do you need somebody to always say yes
to everything that you say
or is that something that actually is
not conducive for growth?
Which one are we looking for? Are we
looking for somebody that will always
say exactly what I was thinking
originally? I'm going to present an
idea. I present even a business idea and
I turn to my wife and I say, "This is
going to be successful." And then she
turns around and she says, "Wait a
minute. You have this and you have that.
You have this and you have that. Those
points that I'm pointing out to you,
that's why you're going to fail. You
know, you can never agree with me."
That's the response. Why can't you make
me feel I have a good idea just just to
help me with my idea. She is helping you
with the idea. She's presenting another
possibility.
doesn't mean that the person is going to
be your cheerleader in life and sitting
there and saying to you, "Yes, you can
do it. Oh, this is gonna be amazing."
Yes, it's always good to have somebody
behind you pushing you that you can
accomplish. But to assume that that
person, no matter what you say, is going
to say, "Yes, yes, yes, yes." That's
what you're looking for in a spouse. And
if you have that,
that's amazing. I'd like to I'd like to
meet you afterwards because you you're
you're but anybody that has that that's
a tremendous milo I'm not saying it's
not a milo but in the connect aspect
somebody who's really out to help you is
not going to agree so therefore I would
suggest the following if you have
somebody
that has their mind made up that
whenever I'm looking to my spouse I want
them to agree with everything that I say
connect
If I'm looking at my spouse, not that
everything I say they disagree with, not
talking about a wife that's that's that
that literally everything you say is the
opposite. No, but she sees things
differently. And because she sees things
differently, she's going to give you a
different perspective than the way that
you were thinking originally, that will
be beneficial. And if you can appreciate
that, that's an aer. The idea of saying
if she's your
then she's so much of it is based on the
fact of how do we approach the
situation? How do we come into the
marriage? How are we going to be living
our lives? Do we look at our wives that
they're going to be the aer which means
that even though she's a different
component in the car that's terrible
that's terrible analogy but whatever it
is how we're going to say wherever the
woman is in the relationship that
relationship is going to be one which is
that she doesn't automatically say yes
to everything that I say and I'm open to
it because I want to hear a different
perspective
ask you the tyra
how many times through gar do we have
the following following rule. We see a p
and the garra comes along and the garra
says.
What do I need a p for? It's logical.
What is that telling me?
What do I need a p for? It's logical. Is
that telling me the is not logical?
Obviously not. The is logical. So what's
the issue? Why am I saying this?
What do I need for if it's logical?
person's driving on the road. It
shouldn't happen to anybody.
They say tomorrow to be careful there
might be a little bit of black ice in
the morning. They're say so a person is
driving on the road and let's assume
it's not black ice. I don't think
there's anything you could the person
could do about that. But he hits a patch
of water. It's raining hard and he
starts to hydroplane.
So now as I am going off to the left as
I'm driving the car. So my thing
automatically, my instincts almost to a
degree, my my seal tells me better pull
out of it. So I start to pull quickly to
the right. What happens to the car? It
keeps going to the left. What do I need
to do in order for it to gain traction
again and then I can start going the
right way? I have to turn into the way
that I'm going. I have to turn to the
left. The wheels will catch and then I
can pull off to the right. I have to do
something which is counterintuitive.
I have to do something which is not my
logic. I have to do something which is
contrary to the way that I think. And
therefore the Tyra says
over and over.
What do I need a for? If it's my logic,
not the fact that it's just oh this is
logical and the is not logical. I need a
different logic than what I'm used to.
And therefore when I say cross what I'm
saying is what do I need a pik for if
it's the same logic that I had from
before I don't need it it's not teaching
me anything but when I understand that
the is there and giving me a different
logic that I had before it's giving me a
different perspective that automatically
makes it that I'm a vle myself a little
bit and I say oh this a different way of
thinking and that helps me grow that
helps me become a bigger person than I
was before. If I have something that is
always just cheering me on with whatever
ideas that I have, the only thing I walk
away with is I stay the same person that
I was all along. But if [clears throat]
I have somebody that challenges me, if I
have somebody that is willing to give me
over a different perspective and I'm
willing to hear that perspective, that
allows me to grow and become bigger than
I ever was before.
Mishas
say
what's the between the two that was a
question that we asked before giving you
say because the same thing that applies
in regard to the that the is a different
logic than we have our wives also have a
different logic than we have and if
we're willing to entertain the idea that
the And the Tyra gives us a different
perspective. I'm willing to be my a
little bit to a different perspective.
It allows me to grow and if I'm willing
to do that
then I'm able to walk into a marriage
and say am I and she's my or am I and
she's my
how do we look at how do we look at do
we look at those things that they are
literally contrary to everything that I
want in my life that means I'm not open
to hearing a different perspective if
I'm not open to hearing a different
perspective I will never change I will
never be able to become something
different something bigger if I'm
willing to then I am through that that
I'm willing to hear other perspectives
and then she becomes your so the andra
and the and all of these things that
we're busy with they are not there to
restrict us they're only restricting us
when we don't allow our minds to open up
when we don't our let our minds actually
think that's where the kicks in. Are we
being are we thinking? That's where is
saying only applies in a where there's
the contention anything that's already
in the past. I'm not thinking of those
things. That's not where I have my and
therefore as we use these weeks from all
the way through whether you go from the
or however many weeks you want it to be
hopefully it kicks on longer than that
and continues to go. But as we
understand
that everything that we think, of
course, we're right. My Rebi used to
tell me, he says, you know, you can
start learning with your kid, you can
start learning with your kid, and every
time your kid has a cash, if it's if
it's it's like a bomb casha, right? You
be like, of course, it's my kid. And
every time the kid does something
ridiculous, like, yeah, it's my wife's
kid. That's where people are. That's the
way people are. Uh the reality is is
that if you think that everything that
you have to everything that goes on in
your mind is right then obviously
everything else connected
[clears throat] you is going to be a
conne
whether it's or whether it's our wives
and if we allow our minds to open up and
to say yes I happen to be intelligent I
happen to have good ideas not saying
nobody should sell themselves short
we're good and we have good ideas but we
let our significant other say something
and willing to entertain the idea that
they're giving us good input even if
it's not the way that we thought that
allows us to grow. My to everybody is
especially you come out on a month of
Shabas that the fact is you're willing
to do what needs to be done. You should
all have misalias. You should all feel
that completion that the shutfish and
the partnership is one that is complete.
Not 35 points. 35 points not 69 in one.
You should have that type of aamus in
your home where there's a genuine
respect of one to the other that you
both see each other as an aer and
through that you grow and create a
tremendous family moving forward. Amen.