Rabbi Reuven Lauffer - Basic Judaism: The Seder

foreign ERS so two of them come from the Torah and three of them come to the rabbis the two deer rice is the two mittens that come from the Torah are simple yetis Mitra I'm telling over the story of The Exodus from Egypt and the second one is eating matzah the three rabbinical mitzers that we've got are the four cups of wine that we have to drink and the eating of the moral and reciting Halo so what we're going to do is we're going to take a look at the the dimensions that involve eating things and drinking things yeah actually I do how did you know that the horse Rose here has been very weak though from what I've noticed it's not that strong just wait yeah just wait I wanna see I you it won't be the whole size it'll be red it'll be your face as you're trying to try to get some more air in there I don't know the truth is like this when you when you eat the red stuff it's been all kinds of things have been added to it what's called crane has got horseradish and it's got beetroots added to it beetroot juice and sometimes a bit of sugar just uh you know because I can't otherwise it's too strong on pesach uh the moral that we eat is is just a horseradish we're going to eat lettuce as well just to sort of like keep things keep things under control but uh just pure white grated horseradish is relatively strong it'll clean your sinuses out that's for sure I had a friend whose father decided that he was going to eat the prerequisite amount of horseradish not using not using lettuce at all and he fainted so um yeah for sure for sure we'll talk about lettuce is 100 100 okay so we have to look and see how much much you got to eat how much more you've got to eat and how much wine you've got to drink yeah well this isn't much of a thing here in Israel you just don't see it there I'll tell you one of one of the problems with lettuce is in general um it's full of bugs so the letters that you buy over here are certainly in the Orthodox communities is being it's bug free it's been it's been grown uh it's been grown in a certain way above ground and uh it doesn't get infested with bugs that makes it a little bit more expensive which is probably why you don't see so much of it around but on on Saturday night you'll see masses of it don't worry any any you know Nostalgia you've been having for lettuce will be uh amply amply remain lettuce yeah I imagine part of uh kosher is or being organized We Don't Spray the pesticides I mean not once not once they're on your plate no um yeah we just douse it we douse them in in high calorie dressings just to make sure that there's no real health benefits whatsoever from eating this stuff uh interestingly enough that there you know Judaism Judaism even though Judaism is very concerned about the ecology um it doesn't there aren't any hard and fast rules inside of Jewish law about whether you should or should use pesticides you know when I was growing up they didn't know an awful lot about pesticides so um everything was down doused in pesticides nowadays they realize that this stuff is really pretty pretty unhealthy to put it mildly so lots of people are now growing things that haven't used pesticides which of course adds the dimension of trying to deal with the bugs and that's why good old good old Jewish Innovation they came up with all of this stuff that's grown it's it's really it's detached from the from the earth some of it some of it's grown above above ground some of it's grown inside of water I mean it's a it's a fascinating you know different methods of making stuff grow and keeping it bug free but leafy vegetables in general are a problem so lettuce and and you know cabbage and spinach and broccoli and cauliflower and Brussels sprouts and all that kind of stuff they're all they're all problematic and you need to if you're going to eat them if you're going to eat them you need to try and get a hold of stuff that's been grown in a way that they are not bug full however we are not talking about bugs today stop bugging nice try over there to get us get us off topic he did very good but uh I'm I'm being super focused today so it's not gonna happen it's not gonna work uh let's have a look at the matzah right we've got a matzah it says in the Apostle schmoy says the era of total matzot that you're supposed to eat matzas on the night of seder now interestingly enough the obligation to eat matzah is only on say tonight you're not obligated to eat matzah through the rest of pesach if you don't want to you can't eat you can't eat bread obviously but you don't have to eat matzah how you're going to be able to make leche mishna that's a problem because on Shabbos and yantev was supposed to be you know making hamoti and eating Mata but in the meantime the obligation the biblical obligation is to eat only on the first night who's obligated to eat matzah so actually the truth is everybody men and women even though you might imagine that women might be exempt from the midterm eating Mata because it is a time-bound positive Knitter nevertheless the uh the possock says that uh that anybody who is forbidden to eat has to eat matzo that's what that's what the the Apostle says like Posse in the Torah says and that means that women are included in the midtera as well another reason that's given why women have to eat the Mata is because again without the women there wouldn't have been any Redemption from Egypt we spoke about that yesterday right in the Merit of the uh in the Merit of the righteous women that's why we were redeemed uh matzo what's it supposed to be made out of so it's got to be made out of one of the five grains uh the five grains of course are wheat spelled barley oats and Rye now some of these things if people have stomach issues so for example if anybody is celiac for example or glucose intolerant uh gluten I'm sorry gluten intolerance uh so nuts are made out of spelled is normally great it's a little bit more expensive but it's apparently it's a lot easier on the stomach on the digestion and it's something which most people are able to they're able to eat without it causing any kinds of problems if you do have stomach issues where you can't really eat any of these five things then you need to speak to a competent Orthodox Rabbi um to you know to maybe to have a stomach transplant or something for pesach and then swap things back again afterwards when you no longer need the additional protection um what do you make matzo with like we spoke about the other day can only be made out of two things flour and water that's it nothing else can't use anything else there is something called matzah Ashira Mata ashiri is something which has had eggs added into it or it's had some kind of juice added into it that is not matter that can be used on Leila say that you cannot eat it because you're not fulfilling the Mitzvah of eating what is called lechem Ani means Poor Man's bread Poor Man's bread is bread which has got no additives in it whatsoever yeah everybody yes they've been beaten a factory with other breads if you have them uh if they if they again in general anything that you're going to eat on pesach needs to have pesach supervision right which means that if the month says that you're eating even if they're normally baked in a place which is full of comets if they've got some kind of a supervision over there saying that it's okay to eat them on pesach then that's fine it means they've cleaned the place out if not then even if they're kosher during the rest of the year you should not be eating them on pesach you should know in general matzah factories are normally not Kosher for pesach they have to be cashed for pesach because the flour that's used in making regular matzo during the year is not PESA flour and it's been through some kind of it's been through some kind of a process and therefore in general all the months that we're eating has to have some kind of supervision on it we're going to eat matzah three times on Leila seder the first time is what's called moitzimata that's the first time that we eat the Mata with the letter commissioner the second time is the Korea when we make a sandwich out of the moro and the heroices and the material together and the third time is the Affy coin that's the last thing that we're going to eat on Leila Cedar the first time that we eat matzo what's known as mozzi Mata that's what what it's called multimatter because we're going to take the Mata out but that's the one that we make the hamoti over uh that is a deal right so that's a Biblical commandment to eat and korech which is a sandwich is a rabbinical Knitter and aficomen is a maclocus right we've got a disagreement about amongst the the authorities what it is and what it's not why do we need to know this because the amounts that you need to eat are going to be classified according to what you're eating if it's a dear writer if it's a Biblical commandment then we have to eat a little bit more if it's rabbinical then we can eat a little bit less yeah why why the sandwich why the uh why are the sandwiches who would have come up with the idea of having a matzo sandwich for all things on Saturday night when we're eating so much muscle anyway uh yeah that's an interesting question Hillel the the uh the origin of the sandwich comes from Hilo not from the Earl of Sandwich at all actually uh the first sandwich in history was made by Hillel Hillel took the matzah and the moro and he combined the two together and that was something that he introduced as a an embellishment to the say tonight and that's why it's got a rabbinical classification why did he do that because matzah and Moro are two opposite Concepts matzo even though that's an interesting thing matzah represents two different things it represents the concept of slavery which is like an Oni but by the time we get to eat it we're already out of Egypt and it represents the lechem the bread of freedom because we went out of Egypt that's what we ate when we went out because the bread didn't have enough time to raise right not Purity Freedom what was this second one I'm sorry freedom freedom freedom right so what have we got matzo represents freedom Mora of course represents the opposite it represents a bitterness of the enslavement and the hard work so what Hillel is teaching is something really really something very beautiful something very very basic which means that hillel's trying to give over the idea that there is no dimension in our lives of only good or only bad everything that we have is a combination of both of these things which means the good and the bad are intermingled with each other good things happen with a little bit of bad and bad things happen a little bit of good inside of it and like we've spoken about how many times in the past something which we imagine was good ends up being bad and something which we imagine was bad ends up being good right so what Hillel is doing is Hillary is really giving us a symbol with inside of La lasada that represents the concept of good and bad being intertwined with each other okay so you I think it's just a practical thing actually and you've got to eat what we're going to see you've got to read a certain amount of Mata right and you've got to read a certain amount of Morrow and I guess the simplest way of doing it is just putting the morrow in between the matzah and eating it as quickly as you can but if you want you could put the morrow on top of the matzah and just eat it like that without having a top on P you know piece on top if you want that the the Indian over here is really what what Hillel is teaching is that we need to eat the two together right how how you go about eating them together what whatever whatever works for you uh matzah anybody who follows the Ashkenazi tradition so Matra of course is something which is very thin and very brittle and uh it you know it leaves the most enormous amount of crumbs everywhere um the some of that some of this fadim have a custom to eat matzo which is thicker and much more flexible a little bit like a pita Iraqi what's called a Laffer um I'm sure you do I've come across anybody that doesn't actually it's it's fantastic stuff especially when it's fresh right uh of course I've never seen you this animated before wow yeah you know they're also loafers are also fantastic when they're fresh it's just it's been a while since we come across anything right fresh inside of the alphas but the uh the uh what so for them making that making this sandwich for them is easy right they just take the morrow and they roll it up you can do what you want with it if you're good at origami you could turn it into a little sailboat you know and give it give it to the kids to play with but uh it's it's uh so you know whatever I think it's just a a simpler way of eating it but you should eat it however is good for you how much do you have to eat let's have a look and see anyone who is obligated to eat matzah has to eat what is called a kazayat a kazai is an olive volume's worth of uh of matzah how much is that so let's have a look and see says that a Dior writer right the mitzvidia writer which is the first time that we're going to eat the Mata we're talking about a minimum of half a hand matzah or two-thirds of a machine Mata okay because hand nuts are normally bigger than the machine matters I don't know which kind you're going to have in your seder right uh so you know some people are careful to only eat hand nuts huh they look different they look different how much is around how much how much is it like that yes very wow very good and a machine Nutter come on Alex let's go for it and the Machine Mata is square that's good I don't know what that little bit on the edges over there I don't know but that's a it must be shimoramatsu oh yeah we're gonna we'll get to that as well in a minute for sure that's an important and important uh an important detail over here um but in the meantime what have we got we've got you have to do the kazayas again the khazadesh is saying that a hand monster which is bigger than a machine that's a half of a hand matzo is a kazai two-thirds of a that looks more like that looks more like a quarter to me I think you need to turn a little bit a little bit more I think that's too much now I think you've done too much but two-thirds if you take your hand back you take your machine master and you you break into it break it into three equal parts you should eat two of them thank you gavriel thank you I was like got stuck over here yeah and it's never quite straight you have to just straighten it up a little bit that's right you try oh a pizza cutter but you have to have a kosher piece of pizza cutter right yeah that it's not it's not so simple that's for sure the the uh the machine that the handbag that the machine monsters are a lot easier to break because they've got very straight lines going through them and you could just take you know you could you could work out how much a third is knock off a third the other two thirds is what you should be eating because they're smaller in volume and then they're handy buttons for later times yeah you can do that whenever whenever right um further our buttons so we're talking about one second one second one second question okay it's important okay I think um so we've ever had a question on that before haven't we could you use machine monster for the SE uh that's in the covering or does it have to be sure yeah hold on we'll talk about just what let me finish up the volumes and we'll talk about it for sure it's an important question um for the there are bottoms so we're talking over here about the korak which is the uh the sandwich right you could use less because it's a rabbinical mid so we don't have to be so stringent so if it's enough to eat a quarter of a hand matzah and a third of a machine matzah now for those of you that are having trouble working out how much two-thirds is a third is the bits that left foreign thank you no no I just I I don't want you to be uncertain about these things they're important a third is a quarter plus a little bit more yes are you sitting in the corner he'd been a naughty boy doesn't look like it actually okay one last thing before we talk about what kind of maths you're supposed to be eating and that is how long you're supposed to eat it in so the Allah crazy you have to eat it in what's called now what is a minute what happened is a deal riser for the first one which is the moisty Mata the first time we're going to eat the Mata it's within two minutes right now eating a kazai samata within two minutes requires a little bit of preparation I think if you want to chew gum for like a week before just to get your jaws into shape so that you're able to do this then that's probably the right thing to do yeah would it be bad if you turned it into it no not at all actually if that's going to help get it down then that's okay for durabone right so we're talking about the curry you've got much longer up to nine minutes to be able to finish it up that's okay for anybody hold on a second anybody who's not uh capable of eating Mata so it is possible to soak the matzah to make it soft in order to make it more palatable in order to get down some people for example if they've got you know somebody has Dentures or if they just don't have very strong teeth to begin with it's permissible to do that even if you normally come from if your custom is not to eat matzah that's been soaked in order to fulfill the Mitzvahs of la la Sada it's okay to do that even if that's not normally your custom that's because you're Swiss and the idea of stuffing everything into your mouth and then and uh watching it all like spill out again is something that's not the way you were brought out right you have to eat your matzo with an iPhone 4 for sure it's true that eating eating the prerequisite amount of nuts in the prerequisite amount of time is definitely it's definitely an experience I don't recommend that you watch anybody else whilst you're doing it it's not a very pretty site it really is that's even worse yeah for sure um you will you will spray the the people there with all kinds of interesting whatever yeah um so there is a the sheer is bigger yeah but I understand why is it that when you have a bigger Shear that the time amount is smaller vice versa because now because wait the theorizer you go you go you go stringent in both directions I know right oh it's very hard which means that the the uh no because it works like this that the uh the what is considered between two and nine minutes right but two is the most stringent opinion and nine is the most lenient opinion which means that when you've got a rabbinical midterm you can be you can afford to be lenient when you've got a pyramid sir yeah yeah that's me that's my middle name uh what what nuts are you supposed to eat on let us say you were supposed to eat shmura Matsu now what is Mata it's been made with wheat that has been stored from the time that it was harvested it's been stored it's been kept dry it's been watched um you can get which is hand baked matzo you could get schmora Mata which is machine baked Mata you just got to make sure that when you're buying your boxes of matter then it says shmura on it okay which means that machine Mata doesn't necessarily mean that it's not schmura it can very well be schmora Mata but you just gotta check hand baked matses as far as I know are all made from schmura wheat which means that they're all the handbaged ones are okay okay so just keep an eye on what it is that you're eating on let us say that for the rest of pesos if you don't want to be careful about eating orish muramat so that's okay right you can you can have the other kind of butter of course the love is it's Kosher for pizza that goes without saying right are you saying are you when is it the difference between when it's like guarded from the time of heart yes versus the time from when yeah occurs yeah 100 which means that regular matzah the flour arrives at the at the uh at the factory and then it's under constant supervision the whole time from then the flowers the wheat is under constant supervision from the time that it's harvested right it's just it's an extra stringency uh you'll know how do you know the difference between the two the price no it's it's pretty obvious once you once you're comparing prices if one box of Mata costs you 20 shekels and the other box of matzah cost you 30 shekels then that's because it's shmuramata and that was one of the things that I always learned that it's called lechem Oni it's called Poor Man's bread because after you've paid for your ham baked for a Mata that's exactly what it is it is in the Jewish world it is the most expensive commodity that you will buy in the entire year it probably probably goes head to head with you know with with truffles in in whole like with French truffles or something because it really is rather expensive do you just personally I'm just curious do you use it for the Seder only or no are you sure I use are you sure about to all the way through pesach the whole family does and uh we also only use uh hand matses normally that's not true we do have machine matters after the sale tonight but I my personal stringency I you know everybody used to have like one stringency so my stringency is to eat only hand-baked Nutters during pesach so what's what do you give your hamster to eat what do I give my hamster to eat uh normally you know Charlie you know chopped liver whatever there is it's not it's not a hamster it's a guinea pig nobody it's a guinea pig to see whether this stuff is edible or not anyway that's the matter taken care of Mauro let's move on to the neck the next Dimension over here what was your what was your question you think I remember what your question was what was your question the question was very much yes yes yes yes I did ask you a question you just weren't listening but I'm gonna I'm gonna answer it again anyway you you could use it yeah we're on La La on Saturday night and asking mate could you use it no you should use shmura matters on Saturday night right and if you right so and but if you want to use square ones that's fine right so long as they're shmura they should be shimura Matas yes so some like are we just talking about a stranger things whether wheat that's been rained on is I'm low I'm loathe to answer the question whilst we're being recorded but uh it's it's astringency even though even though there are there are opinions inside of the halacha which make it more than astringency but nevertheless I mean the very fact that you've got Mata which is which is certified by very reputable you know Cassius authorities it's a you know an indication that it's uh that it's astringency are you saying that there are opinions to say there are there are very there are very stringent opinions which say that uh that uh you can oh you can only be you can only use it we're all frustringencies over here right yeah I guess we do our best right Morrow let's have a look at Morrow what do we got over here so we've got Apostle in Barbados which says which means that you've got to eat matzo Amara together so in order for the ma the moral to be a deal rice in order for it to be a uh Torah obligation it has to be eaten together with a cold and pesach right the Paschal Lamb now we don't have a common peso we don't have a temple right now by the time Pizza comes rolling around we'll have a temple and we'll have a common pesach and we'll be able to eat tomorrow as a deal racer instead of a bonnet which means that right now sorry right now is going to be a rabbinical mitzvah how much needs to be so again we're going to be revolving around the concept of a kazayas how much is a concise over there so if we're talking about romaine lettuce which is one of the easiest ways of eating tomorrow I will talk about it in a minute uh if we're talking about romaine lettuce then it needs to be enough leaves so that you've got between eight and ten eight by ten inches worth of leaves or if you prefer 20 and a half centimeters by 25 and a half centimeters so we're talking about quite a large amount it's probably about three maybe two and a half or three large remain lettuce leaves if you want to do it with horseradish right without using the lettuce then you need 32 milliliters of horseradish or 11.1 fluid ounces it's a lot it's a lot right all over the place the past it'll be everywhere right and it makes Hashem the only only buy we spoke about this before you came in but only buy letters that's bug free don't buy letters I remember as a kid one of the things that that was part of the letters of what are the pesaf preparations was was uh you know washing out the lettuce and uh you know trying to trying to get rid of all the bugs and uh that is definitely one way of describing it being the youngest child I never actually did it of course even though I was supposed to um I just left it to other people to do I think there's like a certain amount of time that has to be immersed in water even if it's but oh it's it's uh now things like this the stuff that you're buying over here is really it's really if it's coming if it's coming you know certified that it's bug free then you just have to wash it off because it's normally got a lot of sand on it um if you've got lettuce which is not certified as bug free then you've got to wash it in soapy water it's a whole procedure it really is and you've got to soak it in there it's not it's not not an easy thing to do at all um remain letters not Roman not Roman lettuce romaine lettuce I'm sure you've seen it all the time no it's it's long it's you know about this high and it's dark dark green yeah yeah normally well that's an iceberg iceberg lettuce why is it called an iceberg when it's round who knows yeah right but that's not what we're discussing today we're not discussing the vagaries of the English language we are discussing the vagaries of lettuce uh iceberg lettuce which you don't see very much I think because iceberg lettuce is packed very tight and it's a lot more difficult to get rid of the bugs but romaine lettuce is like the standard you know normally about that high green the outer leaves are normally pretty dark and that that's something that that's fine that's great what what's the why is that okay because the Gabara says already that when you chew on the lettuce it's sweet at the beginning and it becomes bitter the longer you chew it the more bitter it becomes and it's a symbol of course of the uh of the slavery that we were in that it started off it was okay we were down there with Jacob ravino in Egypt and with the with the shutter with the brother others everything was great as everybody started dying out and things started becoming more difficult at that point it became very bitter so it's very symbolic what many what many people do is that they'll eat both the morals together right they'll take the lettuce and the horseradish and they'll mix it together that's what I normally do as well I'll tell you why not for any kind of it's not astringency I just have the one stringency that's all I have uh but I actually I I like the taste of horseradish uh bunny are you with me you like it too no yeah it's like it's got It's got a great Tang to it and I love I you know the two of them together is uh it's sad but I look forward to eating the borrow on Saturday night that's that's pretty sad huh thank you thank you and you probably know how long I've been feeling like this as well with your background in Psychiatry I would imagine that uh all is revealed how long have you got a Wheaton inside of how long should you take to eat your Morrow nine minutes right why nine minutes are not two minutes let's see who's paying attention let's not this is a little disturbing absolutely thank you very thank you very much you cover all your bases over there that was good uh because it's a rabbinical Mitzvah so we can take more time to eat it inside of and we don't have to eat it with inside of two minutes who is obligated to eat to eat tomorrow everybody again men women icebergs everybody um Go books for sure yeah there's one interesting thing over this this is a Halo which is really really designed especially for Bernie right that yeah that uh you when you when you come to get your sailor ready you should not grate the horseradish until just before the Seder right why is that but you know why let's see let's see what you know over here come on let's see let's see how familiar you are with the intricacies of horseradish oh oh look at that this man is he is a Bonafide expert any questions that you people have on horseradish they should be directed towards Bernie over here right if you if you grate it too early it just that when you grate it it starts losing its its potency and then after a while it doesn't have very much shirt doesn't have very much um bitter taste to it at all right so you should you're supposed to grate it you can cut it up if you want cut it into you know just it's you have to take off the skin right don't just peel it it's not a it's not a skin skin it's just like the outside of the uh of the horseradish yeah exactly so you could get peel it then you could do what you want you want to cut it up into into little circles you could do that if you want to be more artistic and you know cut it up into a little uh you know little snowman you could do that if you want to cut it up into little Rabbi laughers and stick needles in it you could do you could do that as well really I mean you know oh so oh I'm in the wrong place today I'm sorry I thought this was Voodoo 101 wasn't it never mind um again you know bug-free letters it I can't stress it enough eating bugs is got many different uh prohibitions that are attached to it so you've got to be careful with what you are eating right let's just hope those crunchy bits as you eat the lettuce are nothing more than the bits of the horseradish right and anything else um okay what about what about the last thing we've got to get through over here is the Abacus we've got to drink four cups of wine on say tonight uh again what can you use use wine use grape juice I told you the other day huh we did this no we're going to go through the the amounts exactly work out what needs to be done Uma means for and croissant means cups so the other coasters of the four cups of wine that have to be drunk on Leila Seda I told you the other day that Vice one of the greatest holidays in our general Nation one of the greatest authorities in the generation he says that you can fulfill your obligation by using grape juice you don't have to use wine if you don't want to um we spoke about the idea of preferably using red wine uh the uh there's something I didn't mention the other day but I'll mention it now because it wasn't in my notes the other day but it's in my notes now so the uh why why red wine so the gamara it's a good morning base which is 108 B it says the the the the uh the wine has to have the taste and the look of wine right and from there the gamara defines mariang the look of wine is being red right so we have to have red wine over here as I mentioned before some people only use white wine because the blood labels we're not going to repeat everything um who's obligated with the uh with the drinking the four cups of wine so everybody right women as well because they're an integral part of the nase like I mentioned without the women we would never got out of there so therefore we have that they have to drink the wine as well how much needs to be drunk so we need to drink something called a reverse yeah is it they're abundant or the rice uh you're drinking the cups of wine the how much is the reverse right you got a drinker of this worth of wine is 150 milliliters right five just over five fluid ounces okay um interesting enough according to our locker the best way to drink the four cups of wine is by drinking you should preferably you should drink the whole cup of wine each go but at least the majority of the cup right which means even if your cup has got much more than 150 milliliters inside of it 150 milliliters we worked out is probably right that plastic cup over there is probably 150 milliliters now no it's an Elijah's cup traditionally used for a peso yeah but not for drinking the wine you know what we'll talk about in just a moment but let's just finish up over here the uh the uh the halachas you should drink your cup of wine within two minutes that's good right we could that's all doable everybody can do that one that's no big deal um and there was one thing that we spoke about the other day there is a minig which you said was a was a was a strange menu but it's not strange at all that everyone pour wine for somebody else you don't pour out your own wine because we have the name of him we are the sons of kings and we're free and normally they have people to do things for them yeah we are leaning as we drink them you're leaning as you drink them but not as you make the bracha make the broccoli and then you lean yes so I figured out it is about that right really yeah wait how much is that huh the bigger ones are 200 now the price to here 150 milliliters not it's not such a large amount of uh of uh ah this is 180 million 180. oh good okay it says a little bit just a little bit less great okay here one one La one last hello over here which is what what uh avram Israel mentioned which is which is the the fifth cup of wine which we don't drink it's called the coastal Elijah's cup which is normally a much larger cup than the regular standard size cup that you're going to use during the Seder the function of that cup is that it says that God is going to send Elijah to all the houses on Saturday night it's a very beautiful story actually it says like this that Elijah wanted to return the Torah to God he said the Jews don't keep the tour anymore and uh he wanted to give the Torah back to God and God says if it's not yours to give it belongs to the Jewish people and as a form of a not a punishment but as a form of a of a I guess a lesson to teach to teach Elio uh he comes to every single home on say tonight to see the Jewish people doing God's will right fulfilling the mitter of say tonight and a cup of wine is poured out from it's called the kosher really oh it's a big cup when I was a kid I was convinced that you know after the Seda and you know Elijah came and drank it because it wasn't there in the morning the first year that I was old enough to stay up till the end and I saw my father pouring it back into the bottle was the you know it was one of the that was one of the big disappointments the biggest disappointment of my life yeah oh at least over there who cares you know as long as they leave you money who cares who it is right um oh first time I lost my tooth I saw my brother sneaking out of the room because he punched me in the mouth that's a that's a a separate issue hey that's not what we're talking about right now uh the question anyhow it's interesting it says there are four different words that are used about the Redemption of the Jewish people but there's a fifth word which is used not in conjunction with the Redemption but with in conjunction to coming into the land of Israel they see it I brought you to the land of Israel the fifth cup of wine is is is is is symbolic of the time that Michelle is going to come in here very soon and that fifth cup of wine is symbolic of the fact that God is going to finish up the process of the Redemption by bringing us the land of Israel rebuilding the temple and allowing us to serve God in the way that we're supposed to which means it's a very it's a very maybe that's a reason why it's bigger than a regular size because we've got a you know we've got this great anticipation that uh that emits Hashem that the mashiach should come smiling why wait till tomorrow tonight my father always should say Tomorrow Never Comes wise man thank you oh not me oh sorry okay we're gonna call it a day over here tomorrow we're going to take a look at the four Suns it won't be Locker orientated it's going to be just a journey through the hagoda to see what the four Suns stand for and if it's Hashem yeah that's uh but that's for tomorrow thank you