Rabbi Yitzchak Breitowitz: Controversy over inclusion of Prophet Ezekiel in the Bible

[Music] the I want you to continue our discussion of the Michigan because precious to Sava is is connected first let me just say a few words about the haftorah it's interesting that the haftorah for parsha Struma is a description of the base on Nick - that hemella constructed which is the first base of Mukesh the haftorah for purchase the Sava is at least a partial description because goes over him several program of the third base on Nick - that is the prophecy of your Tesco right the great prophet of the third Nick - is if s : avi just to remind people of the history the assess : your mio Hanavi they live during the very same time they lived during the period when the first base on mikdash was destroyed by the Babylonians the difference was your me ah who actually lived in Eretz Israel and he was an eyewitness to the Corbin as we see from McGillis atha The Book of Lamentations ef-s Co had been exiled to babylonia eleven years earlier along with many of the prominent tell me they are coming including mortified right there's a verse in McGillis Esther which we actually read with the tune of a huh I share hag when it first introduces mortify it says a share hag la mouche aalayam he was exiled from you shall I am in hog hola a share hog Lhasa with the exiles that were exiled in year Chania Melaku hooda now if you don't know the book of Moluccan that association of your Konya would not mean a lot to you but your conyo or your Holyoke in that's the same person was the next of the last king of Malta huija and he was he and many Talmud a forum him were exiled to babylonia eleven years before the harbin so Mordecai and yes ESCO they must have known each other they were mama contemporaries as opposed to year me oh who remained in you shall I am with what is called that a lot to arrest the impoverished poor people and that means poor both in economics and in Torah learning yeah you Rio was their spiritual leader now it's interesting that cuz I'll have a general teaching then although all new VM gets their message from Hashem that's what an avi is an avi hears from Hashem but a Shem does not give them the words of their Nivola the words are an expression of their individual personalities kind of the divine message gets filtered through their personality in fact that is the difference between the Novoa of moshe rabbeinu and the niveau of every other navi moshe rabbeinu gets the exact words from God so most Robinho's personality is not a filter it does not color the prophecy in any particular way other than a vm have images pictures dreams which they then articulate the way they understand it which is why theoretically a Navi might not even understand the full import of his prophecy it's a certain vision that requires a measure of interpretation and this is the deep meaning of the statement of Kazan Ainge named the VM is not near miss signified that tuna VM do not prophesy with the identical style because each Navi brings a certain dimension of his personality into the interpretation of the novella so for example if we compare the visions of redemption in the book of yishai Yahoo who was much earlier they all was earlier than the other two the venetie yah was a hundred years before the Corbin he was at the time of the exile of the ten tribes but Yaya is the great prophet of redemption of gula the seven half tourists of comforts are all taken from Miccio but other than a vm also have messages of comfort you testicle as many messages of comfort but there's a very interesting difference then you can actually the personality of the Navi in play yo-yo we would describe is a great abstract universalist he constantly talks about all of the nations of the world shall come to Jerusalem keep a sea-based a feel re karela column in my house my temple a Shem says shall be a base to feel I shall be a house of prayer for all of the nations he has visions of worlds peace right what they have at the UN they will beat their swords into plowshares ira mostly tim right that is from the na VI o though ye saw oil glow serif there will not one nation will not lift its sword against the other nation well yo madhu old no c'mon even the Michelle M Gore's save him keV s the wolf shall lie down with the lamb albeit the Rambam says that is a metaphor but essentially IO discusses universalism they might call it the brotherhood of man the idea that we will be united with all of humanity in the worship of God but in that sense he Shia was very very short on specifics he has glorious abstractions of peace and goodness and happiness and joy yetsko is much more of what you might call a bricks-and-mortar prophet it's very interesting you say fresco actually gives you kind of the street plan of Jerusalem what the base on McNish will look like it's very very interesting that your festival saw as his vision and his responsibility to communicate a tangible redemptive vision to am Israel rather than an abstract universalistic vision and thus yes SQL is the only prophet who gives you a detailed floorplan of what the third base on mikdash is going to look like now we did discuss last week a big maloca according to the Rambam it is mashiach job to build the third temple according to Rashi the third temple will down Menasha maíam and what we do is we build virtual bricks by our toe read by our good deeds we are building a brick in that celestial base on Nick - that will come down - on I am but be it as it may your set scale is the only Navi that actually tells you what it's going to look like now granted that doesn't automatically clarify the picture because as we know whether it comes to the mich gun and whether it comes to the first temple the second temple or the third temple without pictures which does not come with automatic illustrations nor does Tanakh it is very very difficult to translate architectural structures into simple prose and that's why the mo fortune have different disagreements regarding how at the third temple will look like just as there are disagreements regarding you know everything but nevertheless we would characterize a fresco as having a very practical bent because he's not simply focusing on it'll be a wonderful world and everybody's going to be happy and they'll be peace he's actually saying what's in it for the Jews so to speak the base of Mick - you shall I am indeed how the tribe tribes will be divided there will be a new division of land for the Shiva Tim which does not correspond to the book of yahshua a whole new car look at Horace well he basically lays down a home map of however to show will be divided it'll be divided into what you might call strips going from east west in which every shape it is equal which is an interesting phenomenon how can shorten be equal if the populations are not the same and yet he kind of has a system where every tribe has an equal strip in terms of length and in terms of width going across from east to west so I like to call you classical a bricks-and-mortar a prophet because his form of comfort is to focus on the specifics of life in Eretz Israel as opposed to the more universalistic abstract vision the gjo Hanavi offers how do you explain this again this is the what result that all neva is filtered through the personality and the interest of the Navi what is important to him will affect what he perceives of the divine vision it's also been pointed out that your Cesco himself was a Cohen and as a result he would have a natural interest in a lot of the details now I don't want to spend the whole share I'm the haftorah itself we just want to point out a few interesting things you know the phrase banned in Boston whenever a book is banned or someone tries to ban a book or safer there's an immediate interest in reading it I remember years and years and years ago the Lakewood fader a famous well-known fader in Lakewood sent out a book that was a translation of something written by the Torah to Mima about his uncle than its SIV and it was very interesting but my uncle than its if I had read it the Hebrew and this was an English translation and which was a book and it was sent out for a fund raiser and then around three weeks later we got a letter from the Lakewood Seder saying we will return your donation please send back the book and we will return your donation it's come to our attention that this is a book that does not express authentic Torah values and therefore we regret that we sent it out well you can rest assured that after receiving such a mysterious note any one who received the book would absolutely read the book to try to figure out what is wrong here like what is the problem it turned out there were two not really problems but problems that the Lakewood Seder perceived problem everyone is that the 'native we have not tele2 to Berlin yet I'm digressing a little bit but an interesting story was the great Russia Shiva of the world famous for legendary Shiva which is called the mother of all yeshiva Saul the Eastern European yeshiva c'mere communist baranovichi they all came from the legend now you may know that the sieve was the main receiver for 40 years and the secondary Russian ship it was the great flying solo basic who later became the role of breast and the crime soloveitchik effect married and it saves granddaughter now the story goes that the legend was closed down by the Russian government in 1892 and that's when the other yeshiva really started and that's whether of Khayyam became the rough of brisk succeeding his father the base lav and then it sieve died shortly thereafter and it's often said he died of a broken heart it was absolutely devastating to him now there's a conventional story of why the achieve over wasn't close down and that is the Russian government demanded that they introduce secular studies into the achiever program and the net sieve as well as the claim salivate check took the position it is better to close down yeshiva than to have any type of secular studies that would undermine the integrity of Torah learning that is the official version of why the achieve of illusion closed down and that became the Messiah in the Eastern European you Sheba's again rehearse in Germany had a different cheetah but in Poland and Lithuania that was the schita and that became the schita primarily in the Haredi she was average Israel not to allow any type of secular studies now that's the official version of that has been lovingly passed down for a hundred and one hundred and seventy one hundred and eighty eighty years as it were as the official story the Torah to me my rebuttal a VFD who himself was a banker big-big Thomas Holcomb the son of Erica Shogun he was the missives nephew and he was the 'native secretary he was a fourteen-year-old but even in the help the up limits they were in the office and he was there when vulajin was closed down and he had a different version of the story his version of the story was the missive himself was not averse to secular studies since it was a very broad-minded person and then it's it was perfectly willing to allow a certain amount of instruction in Russian language in mathematics in some basic science and the like but the Russian government was essentially demanding that the Talmudic learning only be from nine to one that the secular studies be from 2 to 7 and the yeshiva be closed at night for some alleged health hazard reason so the torta Mima said then it's it was perfectly willing to accommodate 1 or 2 hours a day of this instruction but not to simply turn this into a part-time school he basically said the students could learn more on their own in birthday Midrash so the turret to Mimas version of the story was that the nets it was not against secular studies per se but he was against the successive domination by the Russian government particularly the requirements that the Shiva be closed after 7 p.m. because religion had a tradition people were learning 24 hours a day there were always people in the base a mattress and in the light now in truth there was a mock locusts even among the natives own children what then it saves true position was how they got to that mock locusts I don't know then it saves oldest son was a great great time with her from Ralph Chi in berlin the shiva in new york is named after him if client berlin was a very very array the person he came to you shall i am he was affiliated with their visual a disken the more extreme part of the usami's and he said that his father told him on his dying deathbed that I closed vulajin or I agreed to close it so there should never be Limu they hole in the hole in the holy walls of the shiva and he told you IM remember this but the Nassif had another son from a second marriage who was a been zirconium and this other son was Rebbe mayor berlin who became a very ardent Zionist and he précised his name to Rebbe mayor bar-ilan and remarried by real honest this is the son of the net say again he was a big thumb o'clock home also but obviously he was a more modern and he was involved in the broader world and he said the Torah to me me was correct that the civil was not against we mu they coal he was simply against the successive usurpation I love the achiever curriculum so it's a my focus among that saves own children as to what the missives position was so it's very very hard to be McCrea I mean obviously it's a very strange situation or maybe it's a Tanabe situation the more crazy person understood then it's it one way the more modern person understood that it save the other way what to decide to resolve among this and the torts of Mima himself was in the more modern version so apparently when this was brought to the attention of the lake which later they decided that they wanted to withdraw this view because this was a tacit endorsement of some type of secular studies it would have supported the legitimacy of why you or Toro and like who didn't want to do that so therefore they had to send a recall notice that was one problem the other problem is that Toyota Rhema recounts a conversation he had within it saves first wife which was his aunt and his aunt was very very embittered because she used to spend she was not of good health and she suspend all day learning Torah and she bemoaned the fact that women didn't have equal access to Gomorrah and Talmudic education and she said it was a very very unfair thing and it recounts a conversation she had with her 14 year old nephew about the status of women that too was felt to be a little you know a little risky etc all right this was a total digression irrelevant of anything the reason I'm just bringing it in is I'm gonna go back to the cuts come out is that it shows you that even smarm that have many many good ideas in them are sometimes going to be subject to censorship or recall well you have to know that this doesn't only this doesn't only happen to modern swaram this actually happens to Sorum of Tomas you know the the Jewish Canon of what books make the Tanakh and what books are excluded from this enough was not without controversy for example she Reshiram they were great rabbis who looked at she Reshiram as romantic love poetry and they thought it was not appropriate for the Jewish Bible they looked at it as a secular romantic ways.i quasi-pornographic buck and the sudden sends a very graphic sexual descriptions and they wanted it to be Mick knows to be put away until rabbi akiva convinced the sages which is pretty late you think about how late Rabi Akiva was this is after the destruction of the temple so Salman's book did not officially make the canon till after the Corbin by a Cheney Rabi Akiva was was during the bar kokhba revolt and Rabbi Akiva advocated the idea that she Reshiram is a metaphor that it uses human romance to describe the tremendous passion between God and the Jewish people and as a result Robbie Akiva was the one who introduced the idea that if all of the shiromar qodesh if all of the songs of the Tanakh are holy Shira she rim is kodesh kid she well if Tesco had the same type of struggle The Book of uff scale was almost going to be banned and excluded for the karumba Canon not because of the sheer sheer problem the problem in your festival was not romance but the problem is so much of your test scales messianic descriptions seem to contradict the ha'la'tha the accessable describes a future world that in many ways I'll give you a few examples in many ways deviates from the halacha now we know that there is an article of faith that the Rambam codified later but apparently the sages maintains as well that the Eternity of the Torah means by definition that even when the Messiah comes all of the mitzvot are going to remain in effect indeed that was a key foundation in our polemic against Christianity and later against Islam because Krishna is Lama acknowledged the revelation at Sinai they did not deny it but they claimed it was superseded by a greater prophecy and a greater vision our arguments again without proving it but just asserting and our argument is that the Eternity of the Torah precludes any change in this Mitzvah so for example so any type of teaching it was not so much of Jesus but of Paul that the commandments of the Torah have been superseded by justification by faith that now all you need is faith and not works etc which essentially is the arguments that the Covenant of Sinai has been abrogated and replaced by a covenant of faith we totally reject that because we turn in a Torah the problem is however that textually in the prophesies of UNESCO he describes a number of details regarding the temple regarding the carbon notes regarding various rituals that pertains to Kohanim then are different than the Torah as we presently have it so for example he states a rule a very strange rule that says a Cohen can only marry the widow of a Cohen now that clearly doesn't fit anything in the Torah because what type of Cohen are you talking about if you're talking about a regular Colleen the regular Cohen cannot marry a divorcee but a regular Cohen can marry any Widow whether the husband is the Israel or not so why are you being mock mere on a regular Colleen that he can only marry the widow of a Cohen and if you're talking about a Kohen Gadol then it's the other way around the Kohen Gadol can marry no widow including the widow of a Cohen so apparently this is an example of a change of halakhah that is either being strict on a Cohen hedge oat anyway in regular Cohen or being mock mayor I'm sorry the other way around I'm being sick or either being strict for a regular coming or being lenient for a Cohen guy yeah no no record no no no I'm sorry if I misspoke that's not children you can certainly marry a virgin but but he restricts his which which non versions right well so other thing the carbonyl see the whole whole ritual of carbon hose for coda and Pesach that are totally different so as a result cuz I wanted to be gone a ZFS go because donors meaning put it in Sheamus so to speak because they regarded the book as heretical heretical an avi of God is engaged in Harrison so the Gomorrah credits the rescuer the Redeemer of UNESCO was a certain person who's otherwise not very well known to us Kanani benefits Kia who locked himself in an attic so to speak and he took 300 barrels of oil kind of to burn the midnight oil to work out all of these contradictions and he finally came up with various answers to reconcile the book of yo Cesco with thee with the Torah now unfortunately we are not privy to his actual reconciliations so all we have are the various struggles of the commentators to try to work things out and we don't know if that's what he worked out or or whatever it is but without getting into all of the details because to really study this these are the last eight chapters of the book of is costal the first 40 chapters are not such a big problem but the last eight chapters is where this future vision is communicated there are many many different interpretations I'll just mention the tube well the three basic interpretations interpretation number one is by twisting and turning and convoluting language you manage to squeeze it in so it fits with the Torah meaning to say you don't interpret the verses and a straightforward way but you twist and you turn and you crutch and you make the verses fits the hollows of the of the Torah so for example in the verse I'll give you in the verse that I cited a Colleen can marry a widow Neko Ain from a Cohen so the way it's interpreted is a Cohen can marry a widow and this is what a Cohen can choose in other words you have to look at the Hebrew but if you manipulate the language long enough and you massage it long enough you'll make it fit that's plat number one shot number two and that's the misfortune take which is the malbim is that a lot of the changes were only of temporary duration that's the very beginning of the Messianic era and even though a Navi cannot change myths votes in a permanent structure but these were special one-time rules for various reasons that come in this is what is called Horus sha they do not represent permanent changes but these were particulars that were necessary for a limited time so both of these projects and whether it's Rocky's approach of fetching it in or whether it's the amalgams approach of what is called toe Raja they maintain consistency with the principle that prophecies cannot supersede the commandments of the Torah on a permanent level there is however a third view that is espoused by of David Kim key the redock greater one of the great great commentaries that actually does say that the Messianic era may have new rules and new procedures and new mitzvahs and new helices and that of course gets you into the problem of Christianity and superseding and everything else but the Razak says obviously we don't believe in the second coming so Messiah won't Messiah will not die before he accomplishes his mission so we reject the Christian Jesus as a messianic figure but in theory when the Messiah actually comes there may be an abrogation obviously that is a violation of the Rambam one of the rom bombs thirteen principles but as Mark Shapiro very very Abele demonstrates not all of the reshow name accepted the rom bombs principles I mean it's interesting we speak about the round bombs thirteen principles as if they are so obvious and so widely accepted that everybody agreed with them that's not very true issues such as the Eternity of the Torah and the messianic age are far from clear the Rambam does indeed say all of the commandments will remain in effect but the Radek understands the niveau out of your head scale to indicate that things may be superseded so again as I say to truly study this you have to sit down with a hamish and with a safer EFS Co and literally go through the last eight chapters verse by verse by verse to compare differences and then see how those differences are ironed out we don't have the the time right now to do that but I just wanted to highlight that connection to the the haftorah and the fact that your festival is one of the most controversial prophets precisely because there is much in his text that is different than the Tiago's of the Torah that's something that's that's very comforting actually me meaning to say in spite of the fact that you know you're Tesco raises the major theological problem of the Torah changing so call Soph the changes are technical they are small they do not pertain to the fundamentals of the religion so that much I think we could see we could we see that we're not talking about wholesale change wholesale abrogation you're not talking about Paul's idea that the whole tour has been canceled by the doctrine of justification by faith right so your festival is talking about you bring a cow instead of a ball you know I mean your hospitals dealing with what you might call detail so in that sense the basic idea of the ROM has been salvaged but but as they say the details they're going to be yes that's a very good point Lauren's bringing up the idea that yet another thing that is in the book of your festival which is not the happy tourists for these weeks is the description of the apocalyptic Wars of Gog and Magog against the Jewish people and these nations are not precisely identified by the way it's not go purses Margo gog and magog are in the same side and they attack on Israel and all we know is they come from the north that is really the only description that we are really given and it talks about a very awful time a cataclysmic time a time of destruction desolation death this is one of the primary sources of the well-known phrase in Hazael Kavli Messiah the birth pains of Mashiach the analogy is that just as birth is preceded by pain so to the Gullah which is the new birth is preceded by pain and upheaval and it's very interesting that it is described as a horrendous war but there is a tradition they bring from the Vilna Gaon that it will only last for 12 minutes and for 200 years nobody understood what type of war could last for 12 minutes unfortunately today we we do understand but you are correct that the Vilna Gaon articulates a whole theology that goguma gog is only one Cybil scenario and it is possible to bypass gog and magog by an alternative strategy of mitzvahs and in particular by by love and attachment to Eretz Israel again let me digress but again the digression I think is is useful there is a safer that is written that was written by a Talmud of the Vilna Gaon rebbe hillel of SH glove up with a town in Lithuania and the safer is called coal hot or Tory with a tough call our means the voice of the Turtledove and this is a phrase in she Reshiram call hot or nish ma BR say no and is the Turtledove kind of beckoning and calling for the redemption and it's largely a Kabbalistic work it's been translated in english but i'll tell you the truth the English translation is so bad that you know it's easier to read the Hebrew as hard as that is than to read the translation but it's largely Kabbalistic but the and again it was written a well before Theodore Herzl was written in the eighteen in the 1840s 1830s 1840s but it develops a thesis that graph hillo says he heard from the Vilna Gaon that the return of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and the physical rebuilding of the lands is the key that will bring mushiya into the world and his argument is that we know because I'll tell us that before there's mashiach ben david there is an enigmatic figure called mashiach ben yossef and mashiach ben yossef is supposed to get killed in the wars of gog and magog and then pave the way from a shipment of it so here is the thesis of the cola tour which is a very very dramatic thesis he says mushiya when yo safe doesn't have to be a person who will be killed Mashiach Ben Yossef can be a movement and just as Yosef prepared the economic foundation for the Jewish people to live in Israel right ocean and he sustained and for seven years so too mashiach ben yossef can refer to the movement of the jewish people to come back to Eretz Israel build up the physical infrastructure of the land and that will pave the way for Mashiach's bend of it the spiritual revival and the Ville McGann argues if it's done in that way if Mashiach Ben Yossef becomes the movement rather than the person you could circumvent the Wars of gog and magog now if you understand the implications of this it's quite quite staggering and that is why many many people consider this to be a forged work and not an authentic work essentially the Vilma God sees a role in the redemptive process of even a secular type of Zionism in the sense that the physical building of the land the infrastructure the agriculture the manufacturing the settlement is one of the keys that will bring and accelerate a redemptive process now the kola tour which for many many years was in manuscript it was not printed was a book very very well known among the coddling of leta in Lithuania he had an influence on the native and it had an influence on rev cook because if you're familiar with rough cook you can see that a lot of what I described in the kola' tour was taken up by rough corner of cook of course made it a bit more radical because I don't want to misspeak the Vilna Gaon did not say that secular Zionism ability but he talked about Shevat seoane of cook built on that by saying even the secular even the godless even those who don't believe in God they are there fulfilling ages on mission where cook used to say some people come to air which Israel because of their connection to our College Barco others will come to our College Berg who through their connection to Eretz Israel and even a person who consciously thinks I'm coming here because of nationalism because of socialism because of Zionism because of a million reasons he's really coming here because his neshama once to connect to a college portal he may deny it he may not think it's true but that is the actual dynamic so I don't want to say the Vilma gone and reflected the same philosophy but a lot of the show rich of the thoughts that will cook eventually developed were rooted in this safe air coal coal hot or as I say it was became a very controversial safer there were people in the anti-zionist camp who treated this as a forgery they basically said this could not be what the Vilna Gaon said it is impossible the Muskingum like made-up words in the film account but I'll tell you a great great man who was really very very high rating person with high in friedlander soprano LaRocca who was the most vehicle pun of it and he was certainly not a religious Zionist figure but he did very careful historical research on this safer and he concluded it is an authentic safer of atonement of the Vilna Gaon now maybe the Talmud might have misrepresented but if Hill Olaf's glove is known as a very highly respected Talmud of the Vilna Gaon so once you establish that the work is authentically his that gives this safer enormous enormous credibility kolja Torah yeah it's very hard to read because it's based on a lot of Kabbalistic teachings it's hard to penetrate them but the overall thesis is a very very remarkable thesis in which you could see Zionism as part of the redemptive process the race shits me clouds cool Latino there's another part of the cipher which is not relevant to us that other people don't like as well that it's a statement in which rev Hillel quotes the Vilna Gaon that says any secular wisdom that you don't know that you're ignorant of will decrease the knowledge of Torah tenfold so if you don't know one measure of math then your ignorance and Torah can be multiplied by ten and therefore the Vilna Gaon said there's a nifty suit there's an absolute necessity to study the moto alum he meant primarily not humanities that's a separate issue but he meant primarily mathematics science astronomy and the like and the Vilna Gaon said without that your knowledge of Torah is inadequate and it is defective people didn't like that one either right so he absolutely was and in fact he commissioned one of his students to translate Euclid's elements into Hebrew so those who were not familiar with the foreign languages would be able to master the elements of geometry this is called IO mish-mosh and indeed it's available and Hebrew books that or you know the free site for all of the Spartan and he was very very interested in it so and again there are stories part of it might be legendary I'm not sure the Vilna Gaon as a young man traveled he went into Globus he went into voluntary exile and the stories go that he had several discussions with very eminent mathematicians and he developed he answered various questions that they had his family name was Cramer so there's something in math that that's called a creme or something yeah I'm not sure what it is and it is said that the Kramer or something is from the Vilna Gaon himself is kind of entered mathematical science by the way where we saw cylinder later also have a son who is a very very eminent mathematician unfortunately what we saw cilantro stone was not religious so that was a very very big tragedy in every social actors life but his son introduced what's called the Lipkin that's the family parallelogram that much I do know again I don't know I don't know what it is but whatever it's a parallelogram but I'm not sure you know what you need to do to invent a new parallelogram but there be resumes called Olympian parallelogram and that is indeed where we saw sluggers son because they say that's a much more tragic story in fact the mask elem were so happy maybe salsa launchers own son left the tour world to be a prominent secular a a professor of mathematics so they put in whole page ads in the inish newspaper congratulating Rebbe salsa Lanza on the great achievements of his son and they said we are sure the Yemenis rabbi is bursting with pride over the achievements of his son and where we saw cilantro put in his own full-page ad saying that my heart is broken and if anyone could help my son come back to chuhwa that would be the greatest joy of my life because it was very important that he had to discipline even though it was embarrassing to him he had to disassociate himself the masculine were essentially claiming rebus Philander as one of their own they even said something like we are sure the path that the son took was based on the teachings he he he absorbed from his father's every source laundry had to make a very very sharp Association we do we do have records I've seen a few things I I could direct you to a source I will tell you this we do have a letter that he wrote to his son a very tragic letter sad letter he begged his son that if you're going to eat non-kosher better to eat from a kosher animal than non-code than a non kosher an Allah meaning eaten availa eat non kosher beef rather than present every soul enters so a difference in the spiritual detriment of those difference of those different foods but ok how I got on to that again digression on top of a digression I was simply answering your point about the descriptions of gog and magog can indeed be circumvented in an alternative way and as i say the call a tour is really quite a a revolutionary thesis coming from someone whose authority there on the gong is absolutely unquestioned I mean the only way you can attack the comet or is by saying it's a forgery right there was no way you couldn't just say well that's the rule no Gold's opinion you know we don't have to pay attention to it that would be impossible right so as a result a common technique when you find in a an authoritative safer something that doesn't fit your overall philosophy is it must be a forgery if it's done actually quite a lot you find it in many to us when we discover a rezone that says something that doesn't agree with our theology we say forgery which you know usually it's not true ok so that's what I wanted to say about the the a vittoria let me go back to the parsha itself really it's still last week partially because these two parts are connected I want to talk a little bit about the Orinoco dish and the arnica - is a very very interesting thing because the irony kodesh was constructed as part of the construction of the Michigan and yet Moshe Rabbeinu himself came down okay the first locos were smashed but he came down with the second Blue Coast on Yom Kippur and the Michigan was being built over a period of time all the way to Nisan almost six months so there was no ro until the end of the process there so the question was where were the Luke house kept including the fragments until the construction of the are owned by bits although right Vassallo Tsar own is a wood box that is gold on the inside gold on the outside so it's essentially three boxes inter-gold middle wood outer go but where would the Lucas until that point so the truth of the matter is the Commish itself answers this question the flemish says that moshe was commanded even before he went to her Sina to make a pure a simple wooden wooden aura and the Luke house were kept in that wooden our own until but Savile made the our own of the Michigan so the interesting question is what happens to moshe Rubino's original wooden aura what happened to it because that was not the aura that was in the Michigan and later later the besan Mukesh so it's really Mike locus in the Talmud you show me and Rashi and the we shown him have different views which view they poskim like it is Rashi schita throughout the Commish that in fact moshe is our round continued to exist and in fact there were two arcs there was the honoring of its allah that lasted for the entire duration of the first temple period it was hidden before the core bug and we did not regain it to the second Mick - and according to our masoorie it is still hidden under the Temple Mount somewhere and there was Moshe Rabbeinu Zorin and Rashi says when we read throughout Tanaka that they used to take the Aaronic o - when they would go when they would go out to war that was the our own of Moshe Rabbeinu and that was a proper thing to do and the only time they took the our own of gold of bits al al was in the time of Ailey when they were fighting against the Philistines and that is why as a punishment for that sin that Aaron was captured although we got it back but all the other times when we took the are on the milk Allah we took the RN of Moshe Rabbeinu now what was in the Oran of Moshe Rubino so according to this interpretation the broken loose were in Moshe a famous our own and the permanent glucose were in the our own in the kodesh hashem so that is the view of Rashi that there continued to be stay at all notes for the entire ham chef of the bias of the by accretion now rom ban is colic rom ban says two possibilities that the Orang of Moshe was either nas meaning to say as soon as but silo built the Aaron Mosher banners RM was simply decommissioned or alternatively and this I like very much this may have been the wooden box that was then covered with gold on the inside and the outside because the Arabic Allah was wood with gold on the inside gold on the outside is it not logical that essentially this was Moshe Robinho's box of wood that became the foundation so to speak of bits Allah Sauron and according to Ramban when it says they took the are on out to war they took the yarn of its aloe out out to war so they didn't do anything different in a nice time and the reason the yarn was captured was not because there was any sin in taking the or not but because of other sins that they were deserving of divine punishment so that's what Big Mac locusts were there to our own oats or was the only one all right now if both in the our own there was both the Luke oats and the shiver able hope they were both in the our own and the Gemara Nidoran gives us a very profound and beautiful lesson about respect for the elderly who maybe have diminished capacities and it says if a Talmud Harlem has forgotten his learning you must still treat them with respect and with honor because even the broken tablets of the Torah that no longer has they could no longer be read you can no longer see the Torah in them are given a place of honor in the Arona qodesh luke house for several of us young well I don't know yeah it's not it's not so well because I don't know if I could do it but you know I don't think it's that hard I don't think you need tremendous skill to nail together a wooden box it's a wood it was a wooden box it was not go no it was not only but solos are wrong Moshe of a nazar in was a wooden a wooden box so much urbane who could do it you know now one other interesting point one a few a few interesting points I want to make before before we end that is we know the Oren was kept in the codification and we have this general impression that of course only the Kohen Gadol went into the codis reputation one time a year on Yom Kippur but do you actually know that every time during the shallows regale him the Kohanim would open up the parathas of the coda succession and people standing there would have an eye view a view of the Orinoco - so people saw the hora and people saw the crew Veeam above the RM and says I'll say an amazing thing there was a miracle the crew VIN were angelic children and when we were in God's good graces the crew VIN would embrace and when we were not in God's good graces because of sin the crew van would turn away from each other and during the shalash regal in which was a time of ruts own a struts own the crew vim would embrace and the Kohanim would announce to the people rule he Boscombe lift a hammer comb see how much you are loved and cherished by God so the truth of the matter is chloeís rail had a view of the cutter shock reduction remember all of the entrance ways of the temple complex were directly opposite each other so even if your stiff you have good I said even if you're standing at the entrance of the rabbi it you could see though if you can see you know there's a straight B's line all the way to the cutter subduction straight line so you could see it all the way there now the Gemara asks the obvious kasha what do you mean the Holy of Holies was opened and people gazed at the Orang does not the Torah say you are not allowed to even gaze at the Orinoco - remember when the lithium just disassembled the Michigan and they were carrying the Orang the children of God carried the Aaron the Yaran had to be covered up in a cloth and the mentions people were not allowed to look until the RN was covered up and later we find in there in the book of Shmuel when the Orang is being transported the people who gazed at the Orang died remember Raiders of the Lost Ark we can't look at the arm and you can die so the Guara itself that's the kasha how could we be mystical be our own low you Holly wrote Kabbalah ha'qodesh from AC you cannot look at the art and even when it's in the process of being covered up unless you die so the Gemara gives a very very fascinating answer we know that in Jewish marriage there are technically two stages although today we do it all at once there is what is called Arison now do not confuse this with the modern Hebrew usage in modern Hebrew usage Arison is simply engagement that is not what it means in the Torah and it's not what it means and cause out Arison is the actual giving of the ring Hara ACMA Kadesh simply when a man gives a ring to the woman or and says the words in front of witnesses hi ray Ahmed Kadesh Utley she is now called she's an HS ish but she is an hour Russa she is his wife minute hora but he's not yet obligated for support and the like now in the time of Casale and earlier a woman would be in a state of arason for a whole year she would live in her father's home and the marriage was not yet consummated after a year the coton would bring his wife home and there would be consummation of the marriage and then she would be called anus sua so a rusyn is one level and the suin is the second level there used to be a year apart bhisma has said we unite them in really one one ceremony so for example the giving of the ring is the heiress in part the Sheva Bravo and the Yi code is the masu in part which means the interesting point people don't don't help us the recitation of chevre Braavos is not the conclusion of the marriage ceremony it is the beginning of part 2 meaning if you would have been at a wedding in the time of the Gemara you would have seen a ring ceremony and that would have been the end then they would have gone home the wife would go to her parents and the husband we go to his home and a year later they would assemble they would recite Sheva Broncos and that was the beginning of the curse on taking the Kaabah home so Sheva brachot is not the end of a ceremony it is the beginning of part 2 of the ceremony which culminates in the e-code which is symbolic so to speak consummation so we know when a woman is in our rusa she has to be distanced from her husband there's a certain distance when there's no suin there is intimacy and familiarity so the gomorian Yuma says the following the Jewish people in the mid bore because they have not yet come to the Land of Israel or like in our Russa their relationship with God is that of Anna Russa there has to be boundaries there has to be separation there has to be distancing and that is why it is prohibited to gaze at the Araneta - which is the mahkumat Rena because that is an over familiarity that is inappropriate for an eye Russa but once we have the base on McNish our status with hashem is elevated to that of nice 'when a masseur is allowed to have total intimacy with the husband and therefore it was permitted to gaze at the arena kodesh once we have the base on mcNeish in Yerushalayim now we know the quarry records that the babylonians never got access to the base on Mukesh lab site to the theoretical dish Yoshio hemella when destruction was imminent he removed the arena Kadesh and it was concealed and according to our miss aura it was concealed under the Hara baiance and it's still there still there now today because we are in a state of Corbin and we haven't been redeemed you would not be allowed to gaze at the arena kodesh so it's better not to look for it in fact every once in a while they tell the story that some guy actually claimed to have found it and he went to the carpet I am and he gave him a whole letter describing exactly where it was and the carpet I am burnt the leather and swore the person to to secrecy one final point about the arm then that will break that is the our aid was transported by staffs meaning to say there were rings on the side of the RN and there were poles that were put in the RN and the Levin would carry the poles on their shoulder and they would transport the are on Hakodesh actually technically it says the r1 lifted them but but at least physically it looked like they were lifting me the Orang so the Taira then gives you a halakha and this is a mitzvah in the torah that when the our own is at rest in the codification you are not allowed to remove those poles this is a low Sasha if somebody removes the poles from the Rings on the side of the arena qodesh they can get lashes they can get malthus low Yasuo Romano it is one of the 613 commandments so the question becomes why is that so important why is it so important that the poles of the our own remain with the our own even when the RN is at rest what would be such a problem if we insert them when they're needed for transportation so the puppets volume says a beautiful voice the puppets I'm done represents Torah learning it is the Torah the poles that support the are on represent those who support the learning of Torah both financially and also emotionally by showing respect and building people up so what the tour is saying is all of the people who bore the burden of supporting Torah in this lifetime even when the Torah learners come to their final rest in Olam haba these supporters are going to be with them the supporters are not going to be relegated to an inferior position just as we find with the suckler ends of woollen the sutler was the tribe devoted to Torah learning zvolen was devoted to commerce but so Roulin used his resources to help you sucker zevulun is a co-equal partner in all of these suckers learning the perfect time says the bad dejaron our democracy kotoba in democracy gay torah remained with the long day tohe even when they come to their final rest in Olam haba which is symbolized by the coda shaquita Shem now it's interesting the kyrgyzstan brings that if you remember when Yaakov is struggling with the angel of Asaph and the angel of Asaph smites Yaakov and the thigh and Yaakov is limping so the Zohar says a fascinating thing Yaakov in Kabbalistic symbolism represents Torah Avram represents loving kindness yet smoke represents divine service Yaakov represents Torah and the angel evasive wants to vanquish Torah and he doesn't succeed but he gets a partial victory the thigh supports the body so in Yaakov is limping that means the angel evasive achieved a victory that the support of Torah we'll always be weak and precarious and therefore if you look around then you say why is there so little money available for Torah study that was the victory of the angel of Asaph after they calculate the carpet I am sense that any Jewish educational institution that does not have financial problems one one must question its authenticity because if it would be an authentic Torah institution it has to suffer that's inevitable now don't use that as an excuse if some Jewish cause needs your resources you don't say hey you guys are supposed to be poor I'm not supposed to support you this would be analogous to an argument that some Christian theologians made you know when anesthesia was introduced for childbirth in the 19th century so there were Christian theologians all of whom were men who said women are not allowed to take anaesthetic because that's a contravention of God's curse to Eve you shall bear children with suffering you must suffer what gives you the right to alleviate suffering so they actually said a woman must give birth naturally she cannot take any painkillers to dull the pain now Judaism rejects that position because we make the following distinction we differentiate between what you might call a curse and what's called a mitzvah the Torah doesn't say as a commandment thou must suffer thou shall suffer the Torah is simply describing the natural order as God made it and there may be elements of curse and elements of punishment there but like anything else we are permitted to alleviate the detrimental effects of nature just as if one has sickness one is permitted and even commanded to seek appropriate medical treatment for our poyo a pet we read that last week unlike for example Christian Scientists who say if God made you sick only God can heal you we believe that this is what is called teach doubtless that the wisdom and skill that human being acquire also comes from God we don't consider that to be disassociated from the regression of them so the same thing here the fact that it is the nature of childbirth that it is a physically painful experience does not mean we don't have license to try to make it a little easier so the same thing with supportive Torah the fact that it's the nature of things that the support of Torah is going to be difficult is not an excuse not to serve not to support Torah the heavens it creates a greater imperative to support precisely because it'll always be in a vulnerable position and that's why the habit I'm very much emphasized the idea of supporting Torah and he reads this into the idea that the bad day alone cannot be removed with the our own they will have equal rewards in all of my BA to all of those who much so I always wish you well and it's a shame I will be back in hopefully in two weeks we'll provide you take [Music]