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Rejuvenation: No Bonfires, No Vanities
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It’s warming up, it’s Lag Ba’Omer and Israelis are gradually coming out of isolation and adjusting to whatever the COVID-19 chaos is deeming a new normal. Temporary, at best. Eve Harow opens up her disparate thoughts on politics, prayers, pizza and plagues and what she’s been up to as she starts to get out and about. Virtual touring, surprise tears and no standing on her head. Relate to her or not, we’re all in flux, for good or for less good. Stay well! [email protected] Facebook.com/TheLandofIsraelcom Twitter.com/thelandofisrael Soundcloud.com/thelandofisrael
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[Music]
hi everybody
Eve Harrow rejuvenation on the land of
Israel
Network it is May 12th 2020 the 18th day
of er 5780 and a day that's known as Lag
Ba'Omer or the 33rd day in the on
they're in the 49 day time period that
we're counting between the barley
harvest and the wheat harvest or more
commonly known as between the second day
of Passover until shovel Earth's so it
this show is not going to have an
interview
the last Wow the last few months I have
been interviewing people and I did try
to get an interview today actually
having to do with logged on they're kind
of half-hearted because I've got all
these thoughts like roiling around in my
head mental meanderings if you will
Eve's pandemic peeves I suppose could be
another name but there's just a lot of
stuff that I kind of wanted to talk
about in no particular order of
importance so I figured that I would
take the opportunity to do that today
what's so interesting about La Gomera is
well of course it's different this year
because everything is different this
year usually we would be coughing today
in Israel there is a amine hug there is
ritual or accustomed to light bonfires
for reasons that are not so clear some
people say because of the mystical fury
element of the day and other people say
because that's what the marshmallow
manufacturers want us to do but there is
a very big custom to do that to light
bonfires for a lot of reasons again and
I don't the shows not going to be about
La Gomera just one City give a little
preliminary about why I'm in the top
floor of my house in my son's room
because I miss him and so by
broadcasting by sitting here why don't
need to have great internet as I do with
I'm unzoom not that I have great
internet even when I'm and zoom as some
of you know because the interviews have
cut out sometimes and it's really
frustrating but just as an aside because
that's how this show is going to be
everything's going to be an aside I
can't get the cord from my computer so
that I can plug it directly into my
Wi-Fi box I have not so new MacBook Air
and I've been like calling around
because obviously like a lot of the
Apple stores are closed and a lot of the
people that have the Apple products are
out of that or maybe never had it
because it's old anyway I can't get that
cord and so I think it's called a
thunderbolt if any of you out there
listening to this happen to deal with
Apple products let me know please anyway
I love my Mac stuff this is not a plug
for Apple it just that I it was my first
computer way back in the day in the 80s
and then we went on to the usual things
and then a few years ago I came back to
Apple and I loved them also because they
all synced together but you don't find
them so much in Israel much more popular
outside of Israel and so I can't get the
cord and that's why I'm sitting in my
son's room today just doing a podcast on
might ask em where I don't need internet
and I'm looking out the window I there's
a point to all this I'm looking out the
window and a I can see Jordan or the
mountains of ma from here because it's
just a little bit higher than the
mountain ridge looking over the eastern
gush etzion and I can see across the
rift as a matter of fact I can see the
two tall skinny towers that are among so
that's like pretty wild but why can I
see them this morning is normally on log
Balmer morning you can't see nuttin
because the bonfires of last night fill
the air with a tremendous amount of
smoke so as we've had for the last few
years and the world's recovering maybe
in the environment recovering a little
bit from all the junk that we throw into
her all the time so on a personal level
here in Israel because of the
limitations on gatherings which some
people of course didn't listen to which
is a whole other issue but maybe I'll
get into later we didn't have the
bonfires all right there are normally
hundreds of thousands of people who go
up to me Ron which is just outside of
Scott and really kind of the cradle of
Kabbalah and of mystical Judaism
from way back when the reason they do
that is because of the gosh be shimon
bar yohai this is apparently the
commemoration of his passing and he is
known for many things one of them which
is controversial it's not clear if he
did in everybody agrees is writing the
Zohar the underpinnings of mystical of
Kabbalistic mystical Judaism he also
famously hid from the Romans he lived
during the second century when the
Romans were all about and and he hid
from the Romans who were killing the
rabbi's who were teaching Torah so he
was isolated for seven years in a cave
eating just Caribes
which is totally not chocolate I had an
amazing chocolate last week I'll talk
about that in a few minutes
carob is not chocolate that anyhow that
there's a lot of stories about him and
now I was like thinking about him in a
different way that's like seven years
like that's that's a long time here we
are some of us going crazy after seven
weeks right and in a lot different
situation than he had I assume that
nobody listening to this is living in a
cave and I'm having to eat just carob so
a we need to appreciate the good even
within the difficult situation but like
that's that's got to change you right so
maybe it changed him in the positive
sense of him being able to connect more
to the Creator and be able to really get
into the secrets of mystical Judaism
which would be the idea but but I don't
know make like maybe he was like just a
little bit crabby we need God and
there's also stories of that right like
maybe his social skills weren't what
they should be which also makes sense if
you're not really with people for a long
time he was also a brilliant apparently
according to legend he was also
brilliant scientist he knew botany many
many many many of the rabbis in the
ancient world unfortunately not as many
as there should be in this world where
science has kind of been shunted aside
but I think and I've talked about this
before I think anything having to do
with science biology physics chemistry
all that can be
shown and learned as God's world who
came up with all those rules Bonet how
he was apparently a brilliant botanist
and when the Jews were asked to move in
Tiberius which had been started by Herod
the Great's one of his sons Herod
Antipas in the first century the Jews
didn't want to move there because there
were graves all over the place and Jews
don't live where there are graves very
big separation between life and death
but he apparently was able to find where
the graves were and purify the area dig
up the bones by planting lupines the
beautiful flower and because they grow
off of organic material so very
interesting person as most people are
not you know not can't be boxed in and
so one of the reasons for celebrating
Lugg but all Mary's to commemorate his
death but really when we commemorate
some of his death were commemorating
their life at least in Judaism that's
how we do it it also is apparently a
break in the plague yes I will say that
again a break in the plague that Rabbi
Akiva as they say the 24,000 of Rabbi
Akiva who's the teacher of every Shimon
bar Yohai and who himself is killed by
the Romans most likely in Caesarea and
say Sharia in the theatre there the the
time probably amphitheatre there in
front of is tortured 44 refusing to stop
teaching Torah dies saying shmeil al
which is one of the reasons that's
become the what you want to say if you
can as you take your last breath stand
and you know tortured and really an
incredible man robbed a Kiva but not to
get it too much in trouble you give it
but they say that his students didn't
speak nicely to each other and therefore
many of them died during this time
period of the Omer back in the second
century and there was a break in that on
this day and there are others who put it
more in a kind of political reference
and say that his students were fighting
in the Bar Kokhba revolt only also
although it's a little bit looser and I
and I
did a show few years ago some of you
might remember with with dawn Safavieh a
professor here in Israel who's one of
the experts on the Bar Kokhba revolt and
on Bar Kokhba fascinating individual and
so those who say that actually these
students what had happened is their
deaths are dying as soldiers in the
buckle revolt so you can kind of see how
this whole day can be tweaked according
to what your agenda is so if I'm not
your musing agenda in a positive sense
here it's a great degree you know if you
want to focus on the spiritual aspect
and also a lot of people this is when
they cut their sons hair people who have
their sons hair grow until they're three
this is the day will you do the Holika
or up Sharon as it's known the give us
word and and so you find normally up in
Moroni and up near its lot carpeted just
the hills carpeted with hundreds of
thousands of people wielding scissors
and and cutting their son's hair for the
first time so there's a whole lot of
different rituals and different ideas
that kind of fall in on today the Bar
Kokhba one is probably the shakiest to a
great degree the connections Bar Kokhba
here and shooting arrows like I said
there's a whole lot of stuff but that is
a few shows in and of itself and that's
not really what I I want to focus on
today although it's interesting for me
because where I live in Judea where I
live and go John was the heart of
the Bar Kokhba revolt or OD in which I
can see when I leave my house I can't
see it from here it's not got to see a
glimpse of it yesterday is the
headquarters of the revolts and a lot of
what's going around here has to do the
Volkl revolt but I'm mentioning it also
because yesterday the Israel Antiquities
Authority and City of David announced
that a coin had been found it wasn't
found yesterday a lot of times things
that are found in the digs are they way
to announce them close to a holiday that
has to do with what was found to give it
like an extra boost I remember a few
years ago after they found a little
ostraca a little like I'm clay piece in
one of the tunnels in the city of David
that says Bethlehem on it
apparently the only time the Bethlehem
was found like written obviously outside
the Bible and they announced that on the
eve of shovel arks which is which I'm
staring about the time right now outside
my window the real Bethlehem because of
course we read the Book of Ruth and that
has to do with the genealogy of King
David and of tremendous social kindness
and we filled in the barley fields and
all that outside of Bethlehem which
means faith let them which means House
of bread so the whole thing kind of like
fits together so they announced the
buckle coin which is a very interesting
find a was found in a real dig a lot of
we have huge problems here huge with
robbery
it's another show that I plan on doing
in the future with robbery of our
ancient archaeological sites obviously
an archaeological site is going to be
somewhat ancient and a lot of these
coins are found and make their way to
the black market and once they're taken
out of you know not in situ once they're
not found in the site then yeah if you
have the same thing that was found in a
controlled dig then you can make it very
very very educated guess that this is
from that time period but it loses you
know other things lose the historical
relevance so Jamie point this was found
outside the Temple Mount in Jerusalem
and what makes it unusual it's a coin
from the second year of the buckle we're
volt and you can go online and read more
about it and it has a palm tree on one
side and grapes a bunch of grapes on the
other but what's unusual about it is it
says Jerusalem and only four coins have
been found have in Jerusalem out of
22,000 corns that have been found in
Jerusalem only four have been found from
varkala there's another 20 that were
found in Europe of also from this time
and so what does this mean well we've
got the romans are here the legions are
here and what the feeling is also that
the ones found in Jerusalem is that
these are coins that the Roman soldiers
had and then took with them and dropped
out of their pocket and and that's the
way because the
eventually go back to what we now know
today as Europe and also go into
Jerusalem 10th Legion especially sits in
Jerusalem for like 200 years because Bar
Kokhba did not make it into Jerusalem
there they never were able to to
reconquer Jerusalem to rebuild the
temple which was the main thrust of what
they were doing starting in 1:32 ending
in in 135 because Jerusalem was being
turned into a pagan city by Hadrian and
so there's a whole lot of history here
and a whole lot of different
personalities you know was a good guy
was he a bad guy Rabbi Akiva obviously
felt that he had some tremendous married
to him enough that he might have even
been the Messiah which is also why the
Christians at the time Christianity is
just getting off the ground do not
participate in the Birkhoff revolt
because hey there messiahs already comes
so why would we think that Bar Kokhba is
Messiah and that makes a lot of sense
and there are others especially the
rabbis with scathing criticism of him be
mainly because the revolt ends with
tremendous devastation and hundreds of
thousands of Jews being killed in the
land really being devastated my area
then is emptied as ethnically cleansed
of Jews for hundreds of years Jewish
life goes up to the galley into the
Golan for hundreds of years until about
that the you know the end of well for a
lot of different reasons the massive
earthquake in 749 the Islamic conquest
also a little bit earlier in the seventh
century and apparently climate change
and plagues and stuff whatever form of
global warning global warming took place
then I prefer to call it climate change
sorry if you're a Democrat but that's
the way it goes here these are things
that do happen in cycles and famines and
droughts and the usual things that
devastate a world and that we can maybe
have little more no sympathy for but
definitely understand more when we're
living now in a time period where this
unseen sea and very difficult to fight
against virus is devastating much of the
world not necessarily in the numbers of
dead please God it should remain that
many many people have died but it's not
you know the millions and millions that
were predicted the beginning but who
knows it still could be because we don't
know if there'll be another wave and we
don't know what's going on here and so
when we look back at our history and you
know a lot of people been talking about
different plagues and different things
that happened that just knocked out like
30 percent of humanity at the time but
when it comes to like learning his the
history here of the land of Israel which
is of course what I love to do then you
see how these things happen to waves
anyhow so the Jews go up and they're
mainly in the galley and the Golan a
little bit down in the southern horn
hills which I'll talk about in a minute
I was just there last week and and and
out of this area for a long time so it's
it's even a greater feeling to be here
and to you know be able just a few
minutes out of Jerusalem and being able
to we have reestablished life in this so
incredibly important time of you know of
sovereignty and the Jews coming back
home I guess many of you know I dislike
the we were gone for 2,000 years because
we were not gone for 2,000 years there
were always Jews been living in the land
always always always always but we
haven't had sovereignty and political
power since really Bar Kokhba revolt
where he carved out a little state of
Judea here and of course there's a lot
of questions that come about this here
also having to do with our modern world
which is well when do you repel or at
least say no to a higher authority right
because that's what was happening here
you look back you know like what are you
out of your mind
well you're rebelling against the Roman
Empire strongest Empire in the world at
the time and there are up some people
who say well then we shouldn't be doing
it now either we shouldn't be upsetting
the United States we shouldn't be
upsetting the European Union and maybe
the plans that are we have to apply
Israeli law in Judea and Samaria and and
you know their areas like we shouldn't
be doing that now so where is that
balance here and and you know how strong
are you and and can you can you do that
and and if you're wrong the price to be
paid is tremendous so these are the same
ideas and there aren't clear answers and
that's I think what's so confounding
when you when you look at history and
specifically Jewish history is there
very very few situations where it's
really clear that they should have done
a instead of be I'm yes you can look
into the Bible did you say okay well
that was a bad move like you know making
the golden calf was probably not the way
to go right like you know so the Bible
tends to present its case more
black-and-white but when we leave that
time period and that time period
happened a long time ago and we start
getting into the period where we don't
have prophets and we don't have like you
know the biblical record and the great
people of that time demonstrates getting
a little bit money here and I think that
bar cultural revolts is a classic
example of that and the way the rabbi's
write about it afterwards again is like
no no no and no perhaps that is
infiltrated its way a little too much
into our psyche now where we are still
kind of trying to lay low and trying to
not make problems and just like excuse
me for living and we should be holding
up our heads and saying no you know if
we're back in Israel and we are a
country among others that also gives us
the right to make our own decisions
about our future because we're gonna pay
the price if decisions or things
situations are foisted upon us that are
not good and when we have reason to
let's say have a certain lack of trust
in other countries and their ideas about
what we should be doing here so like
it's really really really hard to listen
to the European Union excuse me no I
don't I'm not coughing that is allergies
and in early morning whatever but when
the European Union or France or all
these other countries are trying to say
no no you know you need to create a
Palestinian state and we're like okay
guys you just really care about our
future right and you want the Jewish
people to survive so we also have to
take that with a little bit of looking
back and wondering what their agenda is
and not necessarily falling into
something which we have over the past
many many decades of maybe being too
afraid of other people's opinions
not doing what's best for us so I've
already kind of like slipped down that
slope into talking about politics so I
will say that I am a little bit torn
when it comes to Yummie now which is the
party that I voted for it not solid Anna
died other Czech hey it's all smut rich
etc because it looks like they're not
going into the next government and on
the one hand I understand why it looks
like the Prime Minister is just
humiliating them as much as he possibly
can not offering any kind of ministry
that has really any kind of teeth while
during this these last few months it
seems like the Yamina ministers have
done a good job from what I'm reading
and I don't just read the Articles that
make me comfortable like in mccrory
stron or other sources where I know that
journalism is the way I would like
journalism to be and doesn't have like
this tremendous left-wing tilt but I
also do read certain things in Haaretz
Blair but yeah not the editorials but a
lot of the other things that are given
over there because I think it's
important to try and get make my own
decision and try and get balanced views
from different places and it seems like
Batala Smotrich is very well thought of
that what he's done in the last few
months in the transportation ministry
has earned him the respect of a lot of
people that he was working with
fascinating article a couple weeks ago
about how they helped because we haven't
leave in home so they've been able to
really move on the train systems and a
lot of the road works because people
haven't been there and they've been
working like crazy and things are gonna
even end up on schedule but they said
he's really worked well someone who
didn't have a background in that and
he's really really gotten in there and
made the most of his time of course
that's a ministry that he's going to
lose and that I'm I mean I'm happy with
how Naftali Bennett did in the in the
defense ministry and and how not just
how it worked with it comes came to the
pandemic in open different hotels for
people who are pointing and all that but
looking around a little bit outside our
borders some of the messaging that he's
given to come off in Gaza some of what's
been going on
Syria to move Iran out of Syria you know
there's still things happening even
while we're all isolated there's a whole
lot of things happening out there and in
keeping you know an eye on that I think
he's done a very good job and so it
bothers me that looks like for personal
reasons they're not going to get
ministries that would give him the
ability to do things for the people and
I think they're capable of doing on the
other hand if we really are going
forward with the deal of the century or
you know in the next few weeks or
finally putting Israeli law on the
Jordan Valley and in certain you know in
the different communities in Judea and
Samaria and I understand the concerns
about it saying that there will be a
Palestinian state I do I'm not immune to
that to the dangers of recognizing that
and to the dangers of counting on the
so-called Palestinians to mess it up
even though I think they will because
they don't think rationally and they
really don't want to state what they
want is - they're not being in Israel so
and and it's like totally totally
totally confusing and I speak with
people that I know whose opinions I
respect tremendously they interviewed
some of them on the show here you know
and and and it's not so simple and some
people think you mean I should go in
because this is a very important time
and the party that represents the
national religious camp if you will
should be in the government when all
this is happening which is really the
culmination for many of us of what we've
been pushing for for many years because
many of us live in these communities and
don't live in Israel all right we are
not the communities themselves the small
communities are some degree subject to
Israeli law but to a great degree aren't
our mayor posted a few days ago that he
got a visit from it's not a secret
posted it from the police talking about
how things will change if Israeli law
comes here because right now there's a
we are really under military law and and
therefore like car accidents and some
things that you would just use
wouldn't you eat anything twice that
using the police or the police showing
up are actually dealt with here by the
army which is not healthy for algas
iliyan reasons and so how things are
going to change like that so we're
feeling that there's a move towards that
and so I would like to see Amina in and
even if it means taking portfolios
they're definitely designed to humiliate
them to some degree because they're not
the major ministries but maybe sometimes
you have to go in and just make
something of it
like the portfolio for Jerusalem which
they were offered so I've been in touch
with claim silverstein who I interviewed
here last year many of you know him know
about him because his daughter was shot
at when she was pregnant and lost her
baby and there's been all that level of
it but he is in charge of a program he
has a program called keep Jerusalem
which is a different idea about what to
do with Jerusalem which is a headache in
and of itself a very worrisome survey
came out yesterday that a lot of the
Arabs in the eastern part of Jerusalem
would now prefer to take Palestinian
Authority citizenship as opposed to
Israeli and so a lot of people are
concerned because obviously that means
that they've been radicalized because
everyone knows that the Palestinian
Authority is not good I mean we're not
fooling anybody their own people know
that but they had wanted Israeli and the
numbers are huge like for more than 50
percent to 15 percent and nobody knew
and even years ago when the numbers were
that they wanted to be connected more to
Israel nobody thought it was because
they love the Jewish state there was a
practical reason they wanted access to
the healthcare and they wanted access to
the schooling system and a lot of the
benefits to be able to work in Israel so
this shows that you know the Hamas and
some of the radicals there have been
working on them and so he so this idea
is to divide Jerusalem in different ways
though not to divide Jerusalem the way
it happened in 1948 but to divide it
along the lines of the population and
everybody with their own means and
everybody with their own connections to
whatever sovereign will be there and
there
you know to Doctor Who their own
identity anyhow that is like a whole
thing I told you today's gonna be like a
little it's gonna be like a smorgasbord
of a show we're just gonna we're just
kind of like I said go with how my brain
is going at the moment which is it's
like a total mishmash and the different
things that I've been thinking about
because because that's what I do all the
time is think about things and and how
things can be made better but also how
we can find opportunity with in what
looks like chaos so if they're ready
feeling like that and they don't want
I'm going back to the Palestine Arabs of
East Jerusalem and they don't want
Israeli citizenship so okay so then
maybe that's a problem that we then now
don't have to deal with because that is
a concern and we don't want to add lots
of people to our citizenship roles who
paid the state and would like to
dismantle the state that's I think any
country although you look at Europe and
even the United States to some degree
hello like what are you doing especially
Europe like don't you realize that you
have created an entire class of people
within your country who are trying to
destroy your country but that's not my
problem my problem is right here in
Israel and so maybe there's an
opportunity here to go with that plan
and so maybe give me not to get back to
that should take the Jerusalem portfolio
and be able to work with that and do
some little quiet work in the background
and not get the the glory or the it's
not just glory that they're looking for
I'm being a little bit's mine because
these big ministries also have bigger
budgets and are able to wield bigger
changes so I do understand that and I am
torn and so it's like this is one of the
reasons that I'm not in politics because
my little foray into there 20 years ago
when I was a member of for ten years
when I was a member of the local council
here in Efrat gave me a nice glimpse in
there taught me a lot about how it works
and made me realize that that's not the
world that I want to be in and so thank
God I'm in a different world which is or
used to be the world of tour guiding in
the world of speaking I wasn't in the
best of moods I have to admit on Shabbat
I have to I did apologize to my husband
afterwards I mean
wasn't like really but I was you
know not so happy because I was supposed
to be in London at a program the weekend
of inspiration that Ms Rafi was was
running for his I inist in London to
connect with Israel and I've been
invited to speak there and and to teach
also on Sunday of course the whole thing
was canceled because of the pandemic and
and the British and the British Jews in
particular have just really been
devastated it's been horrible but it
would have been great to be there and to
meet new people and to bring a little
bit of Israel to the UK and so yeah I
know it's a small thing but my life has
has a lot of the things that really like
the the plank of my life if you will the
guiding and the traveling and the
speaking and even some of the littler
things like Pilates and swimming I
haven't been able to do so yeah maybe
I'm very small minded and I'm coming out
of that but it's like the rug was taken
out from under me and I've had to
readjust so I have and I bought one of
those programs that they that they're
selling all over Facebook right the to
exercise at home so I bought I don't
have to give them free advertising but I
bought one of them and I've been doing
some like dancing exercising alone with
the shades drawn in my den because like
many of you out there so I've got
remember there was the freshman 10 so
I've got the kovat 5 actually too
because it's so much better in kilo so
it's the Cova too one of them has is off
the other one still needs to get off so
that I get back to my fighting weight
although yesterday I had pizza how did I
come to have pizza because yesterday I
was out in Jerusalem and I was filming
for a virtual tour also Fermi's Rafi
they asked me to do one for Jerusalem
day for you wish and I am that the
liberation
I'm Jerusalem in the six-day war so not
being a military historian and also you
could I mean you could feel you could do
it like a whole mini-series on that but
I decided just to focus on the
paratroopers and to get more into how
they liberated Jerusalem like since I'm
here right and a lot of the pictures and
a lot of
the numbers are all available but I went
from place to place couldn't have done
this without my daughter nearly being
behind that but I'm the camera and
filming me
so I Joe was jumping around Jerusalem to
different places to ammunition Hill
where there's a the battle early on June
6th when I say early I mean 2:30 in the
morning earlier where they fought the
Jordanians for four hours and a
tremendously difficult battle to take
over ammunition Hill and then from there
I went up to Mount Scopus
to near Hebrew University Anna das
hospital so you could look down on the
basement of Jerusalem from there and
because that's how they came up and then
they went along the Mount of Olives
ridge so I went there and did a little
bit of taping from there then I went
down the hill taping them the ride down
the hill and trying to feel how the
paratroopers I mean how could I ever do
that that's really the height of hooks
but but you know that the the fear the
grief right they'd been fighting this
sport like so many people are getting
killed around them but also the
excitement and the sense of opportunity
and the historical moment that's on them
as they go into they get permission to
liberate the old city and they go in
through the Lions Gate so I went in I
went into Lions Gate um with and but the
the way I'm King Faisal street that the
paratroopers went in is now blocked off
normally you make that left into this
alleyway where there's a whole lot of
buildings left from the mama Luke's with
the AH block the red and white stone
these beautiful buildings there but you
go down an alleyway and then these big
metal gates and then you could see
through them right into the Temple Mount
and you could see the Dome of the rock
and so normally that's how I go and I
take people around there and we can't go
in there our border policemen who stand
there and don't allow Jews to go in they
allow Moslems going now it's even worse
the gates are even shut you can't even
see into the Temple Mount and Jews have
not been allowed on to the Temple Mount
since this whole pandemic began which
also means that there's a lot of
mischief kept happening there and a lot
of talk about desecration of an
archaeological site that number one
maybe archaeological site in the world
and it's being desecrated but there's
also different rules in play today
because we're in the month of ramadhan
and so the Muslims are fasting all day
and eating at night this is really their
holy month and we're being very
considerate of that in
you know it's interesting because on the
one hand it's very very clear that the
jihadis to the enemy and the people that
want to take over my country are the
enemy on the other hand I have a
tremendous amount of respect for
religion and and for people trying to
get closer to God and there's a lot of
beauty in Islam as well in terms of
giving charity and that spiritual level
so there's a lot of not great things in
Islam but there's also you know people
there's also a lot of really good people
who are who Islam has been stolen from
them to a great degree so like going to
the supermarket this week you know like
don't go in the afternoon because that's
where they're going to buy things so
that they can go home and cook and break
the fast and you know I mean as someone
who we don't have a month of fasting but
we do have our fast days in Judaism and
I'm not a great faster so I know that
like three four or five o'clock on a
fast day you just have no patience and
and I get it and especially now it's hot
so it's even worse than they're
dehydrated and there's also more car
accidents because they're on the road
rushing to get home from wherever they
are so you know there there's a lot of
that mix and when you live here in
Israel and a good part of our population
is Muslim and you feel it you know here
in Israel we actually feel their
calendar and we feel their holidays
because we're living with them and you
know we know when there's a run on the
food and we know when we should there's
going to be a lot of traffic at a
certain time of day because they're
trying to get home but if you wait till
after dark when they're all sitting home
eating then the roads I'm talking about
specifically now in Judea and Samaria
with their villages are in close
proximity to ours then you feel in a
different way and so yesterday when I
was in the old city I also felt it much
less definitely obviously less tourists
like none there but also just you know a
lot of the locals and I was in the
Muslim Quarter because Lions Gate go is
the beginning of the Via della Rossa
but it's the Muslim Quarter yeah I'll
talk about all the religions mixing up
together and there are different rules
in play also for their prayers and for
their being able to have their holiday
the way they want to have it and much
less foot traffic around and again
that's because it was high it was
Ramadan so you know this is what's going
on through my brain and I was
disappointed that
couldn't get the video that I wanted
with the gates were an open side could
really show how the paratroopers went in
so I had to pivot and do it from a
higher place up in the Jewish quarter
but all the rooms were closed of the big
synagogues because this big synagogues
are closed to the roof of the Kaurava
which is a great place to take a video
or look into the Temple Mount from there
I couldn't get up there so I did my best
and it was just great to be out and
about and to be doing some form of
guiding it just made me so happy and and
emotional also back to the Kotel where I
haven't been for quite a few weeks and
and I've spoken about this before on the
show that I'm less a I thought until
yesterday emotionally connected to the
cartel because of some of the ideas that
I have about us getting back on the
Temple Mount and that's really ground
zero for for Judaism where we should be
able to go and pray and that's where the
temple was and the Kotel is the
supporting wall at the temple and I
think sometimes people have gone
overboard when it comes to the Kotel the
coats of the Kotel because they have to
be careful also not to worship the
stones we go to the Kotel in order to
connect with Hashem because the closest
that we can get to where Hashem made his
presence felt in the world of of the
temples way long ago but I surprised
myself yesterday and saw the clock sound
started to cry and and was happy to get
back there after all this time and that
kind of I wasn't expecting that and said
obviously lots of prayers there for
especially for people who are sick and
that we should humanity should come out
of there this pandemic and keep the good
things that we have learned and and
maybe change the world for the better
maybe this is an opportunity and I know
a lot of people are talking about that
God is talking to us he might be but I'm
not familiar with the language I'm
looking just like everybody I'm
searching for what this all means I am
by no no way shape or form going to say
definitively this is the message so am I
to be able to say that
so I'm searching for personal messages
in my own life like maybe I needed to
slow down and so I definitely had to
slow down although I will say that I am
NOT going to do yoga all right people
always said to me over the years only
had more time you would really love yoga
and it's like you have to have patience
I am NOT going to get into yoga if this
hasn't proven it to me then nothing will
okay I love to do the downward dog but
I'm not going to do it for an hour I'm
not gonna stand on my head I do still
not I guess this is my personality and
not an issue of not having time I am NOT
a yoga person and I find myself not even
wanting to have conversations with
people who are into yoga who are like so
excited because all this isolation has
made them better at what they're doing
and Here I am like not necessarily
getting better at anything that I'm
doing just trying to not slip and slide
totally into the abyss so it's like okay
I know it's fine not happening not in
this lifetime
so we're all good to go with that but
anyway so Who am I to give messages to
anybody on really on anything I'm trying
to work out my own way so I was a little
bit surprised at myself yesterday in a
good way because uh because it was good
I mean it was just good to come back
there and realize that whoa this is
still a very very special place
I don't worship the stones oh they'll
have to say they're going to the cuts
like yesterday and touching the stones
there's definitely and maybe because
they were warm or and worn but there's
definitely a special connection getting
there not to be worshipped but
definitely a place where you could just
feel the prayers whizzing by there is a
vibe there whatever you want to call it
that that you can feel which is which I
have felt in other places as well and
I've talked about that before some of my
most intense prayer times where I felt
like Hashem was right there have not
happened at the Kotel they usually have
to do with something happening with one
of my children some of them have not
even happened in Israel so I just it
guess if you leave yourself open for the
messaging if you have the Ted there as
they say like the the bandwidth on then
you will me
maybe if you're lucky or if you're open
to it get those messaging I think it's
amazing for the people who are feeling
that now much more than they have before
and that's a beautiful thing if you will
a Rashmi moment right the seven years in
isolation where he was able to get in
touch with a whole other level of
mystical Judaism and that's beautiful
I'm still struggling with that and I
like I'll give you another example and
I'm listening to a lot of the different
podcasts both from people on the station
and not and a lot of articles that are
being written about how it's time for
the Jews to come home to Israel and if
this pandemic isn't giving you that
message and if the anti-semitism that's
rising rearing its ugly head isn't
giving you that message and if the
economic slowdown which always whenever
their people are under stress or there's
cracks in society anti-semitism is going
to rear its ugly head and especially in
the United States or in the Western
world in general there's so much built
on materialism and so much built on
money so and civilizations tend to fall
apart on what they were built on so if
there's going to be an economic slowdown
or even a depression and at this point
we really aren't sure yet was reading
yesterday some article economic article
are we in a swish are we in like a Nike
v where there's been like a little drop
and then it there's gonna be a big going
up again and the economists they have
all kinds of different names if you ask
me I can send you the article if you're
interesting that exactly what's gonna go
on here as we recover are we going to
recover is this going to be one long w
of ups and downs and ups and downs
because maybe the pandemic will come
back and we'll have to isolate again and
obviously the focus here was the economy
and and what's going to happen to
countries but yes whenever there is any
kind of disruption like that the Jews
are really at the forefront but I'm not
going to sit here and tell those of my
co-religionists who are listening to
this show to make aliyah because so
don't I mean I happen to think they used
to come and I'm here and I've put my
entire life's life into this country and
it's raising children here and into
feeling that this is the most incredible
miracle and I want
be a part of it even though it is not
simple maybe especially because it's not
simple and not clear and not and and a
lot of you know just to get back for a
second to digress back because this is
one big digressive show anyway so I mean
bhakti Amina and religious Zionism and
have we put too much of an emphasis on
design isn't right on the does he lumi
it's like how it come on Eve translate
not necessarily Zionism but but you know
there's like the public sphere going
into the army and serving the states and
believing the state itself is and holy
but it's the beginning of that's the
beginning of the Gila why it's that it's
the CLE it's the vessel that we have to
getting to the where the good times will
roll and needing to be involved with
that but many of us myself included
perhaps put too much of an emphasis on
the that part of it on the you know
being a part of Israeli society and not
enough of an emphasis on the Torah world
and that's why that this this sector
that I belong to is struggling to keep
our children involved with Torah and
mitzvot and there's a very large shift
okay we're children who are raised in
religious Zionist homes have kept design
ISM but left some of them it's thoughts
and some of the religious elements
behind as opposed to let's say the
heredia ultra-orthodox world which with
whatever that you want to say about them
and I don't belong to that world and
there's a lot of things that bother me
about that world but there's also a lot
of things that I think are tremendous
about that world and one of them is that
they are able to keep their kids
involved in the religious sphere on a
tremendous degree much much higher level
than the religious Zionist and maybe
it's because they isolate them more okay
isolation keeps you away from certain
temptations and certain things and when
you go into the army and when you go to
work in the public sphere then you will
be exposed to marvelous Jews who are not
necessarily keeping them meat spots and
then it's a Jewish country so you can
just be Jewish without necessarily
keeping the trappings of Judaism and
Shabbat in cash roots and the laws of
family purity something that a lot of us
are struggling with in this place that I
am and so yes
I've devoted my life to Israel and but
I'm not gonna sit and tell people to
come here because I don't I'm not gonna
beg like if it's not obvious to you it's
not obvious to you so don't come you
know I know that sounds a little bit
harsh but we need you also this is not
just a get away from the anti-semites
and run and pack your bags before you
can't cross the ocean anymore and
crystal knox is just around the corner
and then maybe you'll get the message
and that's all quite possible because
things can turn on a dime for sure okay
and when mayors of large cities make put
out tweets that that like just say you
know something against one group of
people the ultra-orthodox while other
people were also having gatherings and
things like that that they shouldn't
have been but nothing said about them
that's what bothers me you might have
realized that is hypocrisy yeah if
there's a rule for one person that one
group then there should be a rule for
another all right so if you're gonna get
upset with people because they've been
flouting the rules of social distancing
and you should they get upset with
another group of people who did the same
thing don't just focus on one that's
what bothers me that's what like we've
talked about this before when it comes
to Israel as well right so Israel is far
from being a perfect country and you're
obviously welcome to criticize Israel
but then you better damn well criticize
other countries do they're doing the
same thing or even worse all right so
it's the double standards and hypocrisy
where you need to raise the warning
bells okay so getting back to people
making all yeah don't come all right
especially if you're praying towards
about Israel and Jerusalem and you are
Zionist and you're not here I don't
understand okay
and especially now when things are gonna
get worse but I want people to come here
because we also need you just to touch
back on what I was saying if we have a
stronger group here sector here that is
able to balance the modern world okay
working and all that with a fulfilling
meaningful and rich Torah life and
integrate that and that's what's missing
here in the sector that I live in and if
you are able to do that outside the
country then in other countries then
come here and do it here because we need
do it's a piece that's missing here a
very big piece that's missing here
instead of sitting complaining and
saying well but if I moved to Israel my
kids might not be religious a very valid
incidentally a very valid thing to say
all right absolutely because that's one
of the issues that we're dealing with
here is well I could just be Jewish and
not have to be the other so I can slip
on you know on some of the religious
things then come here and make it better
because that's the responsibility to
your people if you feel that that's the
proper way to live and Israel is the
country of the Jews for then come and do
it here I'm not going to beg you to make
alia you need us we need you come if you
want to I can't imagine living anywhere
else and I feel sorry for people who
don't see that yesterday after doing the
filming I was with my daughter and her
husband they the ones that got married
at the end of February right before this
whole thing happened which was in
retrospect just an incredible thing and
we ate pizza I love pizza okay because I
had to thank her for helping me all day
I didn't have to but I wanted to so I
treated them to pizza and it was such
good pizza yes this is possibly one of
the reasons that I've lost the one kilo
but not the second but I was really good
I had only had a fruit shake in the
morning so I had the calories save for
the pizza such good pizza sourdough
dough and four different kinds of cheese
this wasn't like your slot GP so I love
pizza I'll admit it there like
definitely a food a comfort food and
they've had onions on it and mushrooms
which are my favorite so we had this
really good pizza but they live in in
the near the open-air market muffin a
hooter in Jerusalem and so afterwards I
went I went shopping for some fruit and
the apricots are out so last time that I
was in the market there were no apricots
the apricot season is very very short
it's like two weeks so even though the
price is a little higher than I would
like to pay I was like 15 shekels a kilo
I guess that isn't terrible it's not
going to break the bank at this point
even though I have no income I think I
could spring for some apricots and and
they were just so beautiful and you know
reminder of the things are still growing
I can look out in my back yard I've got
a cherry tree and have a pomegranate
tree and
Plumtree and the fruits are there and
they're growing probably won't get any
because the birds usually get to them
way before we do because it's a whole
big thing and expensive thing to net the
trees but just enjoying enjoying the
fruits and this is the land of fruits
right be fruitful multiply but Israel is
definitely the land of trees and the
land of fruit and many of our seven
species are fruits right five out of the
seven and so just enjoying walking
around the market and the beautiful
watermelons and and it's also getting
back on its feet
just a little bit and I was very
pleasantly surprised to see that over
ninety percent I would say of people are
wearing masks so even though we're out
and about on Thursday I also I was in
the southern covering Hills doing some
filming for video tours for virtual
video tours for the winners rail fund
and I was in at the Chocolate Factory in
the holy kick a factory my left her
there and then went to one of the
ranchers down in my own and ended the
day at the dreamy a winery in sucia so
it's just a beautiful day and you can
almost pretend because I'm trying to get
out a little more and do these virtual
things almost pretend that things are
back to normal
almost but but the truth is we still
have to be careful and stay you know far
from people I'm trying I'm really trying
but injures from I saw and I myself
except for when I was filming was
wearing a mask and I would say even well
over 90% of people it's rare to see
somebody who wasn't wearing a mask and
that was really good to see because um
you know this is like a danger time and
we want to get out and the weather is so
beautiful and there's that springtime in
the air and and you could the
nationalist parks are starting to reopen
and they're talking about the
restaurants but at least you can do take
out the pizza was take out and um you
know you're just slowly slowly slowly
kind of climbing out but people are
still wary and my husband who's a
physician says it's got a lot of
patients coming in with a lot of anxiety
because coming out of the isolation
right so there was anxiety in when we
were in isolation but now that we're
coming out of it there's also an there's
possibly even more anxiety because now
you're out in the danger zone right
you're not go stay in your house all the
time you got to get out but where is it
coming from and so even though some of
the schools are open a lot of the
parents including my daughter and not
sending their kids back yet until they
see what's going on if there's going to
be another outbreak how hygienic
everything is you know and still older
people like including my mother not
accepting visitors is there really in a
high risk category so we got again find
that balance again slowly slowly moving
our way out of there still keeping an
eye on the testing and how many people
are getting sick and where they're you
know the difficult zones are let's say
like the nursing homes or some of the
different neighborhoods that still their
numbers are too high even though it is
really unbelievable what the numbers are
here in Israel and puh-puh-puh and I
don't want to say anything but
definitely the numbers of fatalities and
every death was a tragedy for everybody
around them of obviously and that goes
without saying but the numbers nowhere
near what we had feared them to be
because of Hashem always because of
Hashem because of good leadership that
shut us down early obviously that's also
a factor because of really a lot of
discipline when it came to the social
distancing here and to stay in to the
isolation even though obviously a lot of
it was in the news that people who
didn't do what they were supposed to do
but for to a great degree in a society
that a lot of times was considers itself
undisciplined and not willing to always
listen to the rules really a lot of
people did stay and their apartments are
still are staying in their homes are not
going out so I'm out because I'm out but
also wearing the mask trying to be safe
obviously can always do better hoping
that I won't get sick hoping more I
think that I don't get sick that I don't
get other people sick cuz that would
really be terrible and just you know
just so many unknowns out there it's
it's really so frightening and we don't
know about the statistics because the
statistics are all over the place if
somebody died with Cova does that mean
that they died of kovat not the same
thing and a lot of the you know the
numbers that are out there that are
being bandied about that will never
really be able to get a handle on
because no one's ever really going to
know anyway I think I've me and 'red
over here on a lot of different topics
and so I thank you for listening and I
also thank you for writing I got a lot
of beautiful notes after that especially
after the Gil Hoffman interviewed last
week which wasn't such an easy interview
and I think and and I'm glad especially
because he's a friend and I'm glad that
many of you appreciated the sensitivity
with which we dealt with the topic of
his mother's death if you haven't heard
the interview go back and listen to it
and also love the feedback on some of
the other people that I've interviewed
and had here over the last few weeks I
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right get well stay well whatever it
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