Tanya #17 Did Shlomo Carlebach & Zalman Schachter use Tanya in their work - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

so we're holding page 14 in Tanya kadisha in the Holy time yet we're on the Fifth Line the third to the last words so let's let's just recap in chapter one of Tanya doubt that I've been introduced to us that every year the students from us when he calls the Netflix apartment explained in chapter one and Tanya the official matthiasis explained in chapter two in Tanya that's who the person is right is the nephesh the drive then there is the faculties of the individual the tools the instruments which will so the faculties are discussed in chapter three which were middle of learning now and chapter four will be about the instruments what did we learn so far about the the the faculties that there are two sets of faculties one is called say hope and one is called Midas intellect and emotions within Seiko we have three components with Concept comprehension and concentration were more classically interpreted as wisdom understanding and knowledge spends quite a bit of time in the chapter talking about and and this is where what we started to learn that hawkma is the nakuda the the geometric point which everything comes from it but it it's in its own state is not yet developed and Bina is the development and and and that is why if you break it down the comparison would be to a father and a mother an Ava aim and as we learned towards the end of last year the hang up referring to hochman Pina are the Father which is the mother the drop of semen the aim is the mother Who develops the drops of the gestation period developing a child an offering what's The Offspring I've been hear the love for God and fear for God and we're going to talk about that I do want to correct myself of something that I said which was wrong and that's on top of page 14 when we learned female ship and never show my Skillets the first words on the page the Seiko within the human soul she he her musculine co-dover which which intellectualizes everything and it's nicknames called so I explained in last year this refers to the nepheus the intermediary drive and so between The Godly soul and the animal soul and that is wrong shot in Tanya in Tanya here this nephew this nephesh Hamas is another way of saying never surely kiss why why must we say that because chapter 3 and Tanya is talking about the faculties you're innocent of the necessary kiss later in Tanya we have the where it discusses the faculties of the nephews so we are now in the necessary kiss mode you follow so it doesn't refer to the nephilis the human intellectual Soul which over there is really the seat of Free Will as I discussed last year no that's not what we're talking about here why down to that but doesn't use the word necessarily kiss here I don't know but possibly it's because he wants to explain the whole idea of Seiko so therefore instead of saying necessarily kiss if he would say never show the keys it it it it it only will confuse one more if he says does refer to the necessarily kiss it's it it jives it coincides with Seiko the intellect within the nephews within the nephew my skelets I'm sorry nephewis what's the name of the third soul that I told you last time that's called Netflix he doesn't say here the words he says and which refers to the Nephi's early kiss that never officially kiss when it utilizes its Seiko so the first process is leads to the Midas I just wanted to clarify and looked into this over Shabbos disgusting with someone and that's that's the literal shot in Tanya could we extrapolate uh like I did the other day possibly but that's that's not shot and tanyas I don't want the I don't want to give the wrong shot I want you to know the shot in Tanya if by extension you want to kind of philosophize and intellectualize and and and and talk about the issue as it would apply to the nepheus the third intermediary so possibly we could talk about that the way I explained last year but the pastors that's not the shot here in Tanya okay now let us continue on the Fifth Line the third word from the last word on the line key has and look in here Avi the language is exactly of wrong like he said on line number one look hase the same three words within the nephe surely kiss as it but the nephews of the kids as it's using cycle as it's using intellect to comprehend God kisham is binding when it contemplates and when it delves deeply into the concept of godula sashem the greatness of God in what way is great God the out to that possessed in three different ways number one a who how God is Malik called Amin he pervades all worlds number two the say they've called almond he encompasses all worlds and number three the Kule kame and everything before him can't love is like not khushive considerate here though that ever puts it all together but later in Tanya chapter 48 49 doubted up over there elaborates more of the difference between mammala and savith but let me give you just a basic uh you know meaning which is for all of hasidis the energy the the flow of godliness into the world as it's catered towards each individual each thing in the world in other words it's the energy of Hashem that's foreign the fan that gives above Hill's head I see now and Avis get cabinets everything has its individual highest and and they're not the same they're all different that's been Molly right what does the word Mali mean to fill you you the amount of water that you put into an eight ounce glass compared to a 10 ounce glass are two different amounts why because they dance can't handle 10 and 10 can handle not just eight but ten so there's a different amount of water needs in each why because the Kaylee The Vessel ascertains how much Earth should be there how much energy in this case how much water should be there so too this level of godliness is one when we say it fills I use the word pervades it means it decides how much highest to give based on who this person is and what the situation is therefore that's the amount that you're going to get that's called the molly number two we have saved column so if literally being surrounds like sriva sivivon right a circle which implies it doesn't pervade but somehow you understand it impacts it makes an impact on almin and the worlds on the universe but not in a prevailing way but for kind of from the outside right the example I've given you many times is the principle comes in to to the to the class everyone Rises the principal's not teaching you and even at the time your teacher is teaching you your teacher's giving you the information when your teacher comes in you don't necessarily stand up but the principle comes in you rise why because you know the principle is the principle over all the teachers makif right he doesn't so that the teacher is the one that pervades you the principle surrounds you nevertheless there is an impact from the principle being the principle so respected therefore everyone stands up so in other words so to an hour moral the orally key the energy of Hashem that is called save of men is such an energy that it makes an impact but it makes an impact in a very different way and the the the value of each the comparisons another discussion not for now but that's the second idea of savable then we come to finally the third idea of kulaikame all is not always like not it says killer right it doesn't say Loi Hilo doesn't say Kula kame the language is why because there's even a higher level but the alternator doesn't talk about here in Tanya or right here where every not it's not which is not everything is like not everything is not but I don't want to again discuss that difference now that that requires a separate Shear what he does say is what is the third level Avi in memory and inside wave right what do we say mimale in other words the world is there and the world is important and this energy pervades the world or saving call on me again the world is there and the world is important important but the matter in which this level of God is influence impacts the world is in a way of saveive encompassing but in both scenarios of room caught the Almond the world is khushuf is important and it's important means it has its own in a way it's independent importance comes along the third level of God where the world loses its importance and it's like not and that's why we don't say if over here the focus is not on I'll mean on the world we don't even mention almond kame here the focus is us on him everything is before him because here the the level of godliness is so powerful that the impact on us of course it's on us the impact on us is as though all there is is God and nothing else take for example you have a a child who has a parent has parents the parents made the child the parents gave the ability child to be and nevertheless as we all know as fathers and grandfathers Etc our children grandchildren are independent and sometimes they don't even they don't even want to know about this we're not going to talk much about that in other words what we created what we created Hillel came from us it's like you wouldn't not like you wouldn't be here not like you wouldn't be here if not for a father and a mother so who are you cloud yeah go go go go tell it to ourselves and and just imagine really so in other words the way that able to the way God makes the the creation of an office of a child from parents is such that the child has Independence and God made that through the parents but nevertheless the feeling from that perspective is I exist yes I credit my parents for making me but I ex once they make me I exist is so much deeper I feel as though I don't exist wow that's how much the The Beatles how much this level of godliness impacts the world that the world says although I should feel that I exist because you God made me I'm totally subserving to you as though I don't exist and that is a a more an authentic a higher level of Bittle so that's the third level okay and again you don't see this in the next part the whole the rest of the Tanya in the rest of the chapter he explains it but I felt it's important so the altered Ember says going back to the context that when a person is misplaining contemplates and reflects deeply um and look at the language here avram it doesn't just say and he delves deeply very deeply right he gets goes real like Jonathan said last week about the nakuda you understand said that about BINA and although I told him that really the the emphasis of hamaka steps is in Das which we're going to learn about towards the end of the chapter nevertheless over here he talks about it as part of beta because she because this is Bina because she is binding when he contemplates deeply into the so it's a process of contemplation it's not the process of concentration which is thus it's the process of contemplation what does it what does he what does he think about and this is important especially for those that want to be Miss binding and everyone should want to be Miss blainen not an Abracadabra and not a fabrication and baloney you need to have data you need to know the material you need to know what it says and on that you meditate not I'm going to decide to meditate on what I decide it doesn't work that way that's something else you can anyone's free to do anything but that's not what we're talking about you're not going to have the experience that he talks about a chapter three and Tanya if it's your own meditation and maybe you will have it in in your own things but we're talking here about developing a love for God an awful ship will you feel if you didn't learn a day you didn't doesn't you didn't give to duck or you feel empty worthless because you didn't you didn't connect today to Hashem that can only come through his abundance I think it's very very important because they especially those that have have dabbled in in meditation over the years and uh created all kinds of models what I find and I'm right now invested in this uh discussion because I'm studying you know zalmershakter and his movement and what he did and everything else and I really feel that this was missing I really do and even if he himself knew it and had it which I'm not convinced he did but if he did I don't see that he taught his students this I this model of the outlet epicester and you know why because they weren't versed in look what the title I didn't tell you if one they learned maybe a little bit but to understand what I'm saying and if you're a first in those things you change your life and you look very differently and you behave very differently okay in other words to have a truest blindness and a true mimic in the mileage and yet do what you want it doesn't work that way it's it's an oxymoron you either not just believe but come to understand that all is God and if all is God I'm nothing so if you're nothing the title says men and women shouldn't be together in this way or that way Etc you just say okay God I'll do what you want not I'll try to create a new God or a new form that's when your yes when your ego gets in the way and that's why I say if if we if we meditate and reflect properly on on I'm a mother saving cooler kame there is no way that you're going to walk out creating and making your own version of God no God gives everyone Free Will everyone can do that but what I'm saying is then you're missing the proper way of his abundance and it's it's a you know today I don't know it's not so popular the 60s and 70s as we discussed last week at the shiorim this was much more popular you know and it was the right time for this whole subject today now so many years later I think we're more settled you know all the beatniks of the 60s and 70s are have settled down and they understand that they need a family and to make some money and and and you know and now they talk a different song so now is the time to kind of look back and for the sake of advancement and and Hashem and Taylor to correct what needs to be corrected and it's not you know to bad mouth anyone or or to you know or to um you know gossip it's to understand if a certain model worked and that's one of the questions I'm asking different professors and different people that that the model of the 60s and 70s Now 50 years later can you say did it work did it is it working today or did it fail and it's failing and if it's failing no problem we need another model we have we have to we have to take the gym and develop the right model and and there are people like Hill Anderson and others that are trying very hard within the confines of Titan see this to and Hillel and others who are trying to create this model in a way and I'm thinking a lot about this because there's so many side issues that that interfere and that's the problem you know it's like almost said to the Redman I mean this is what he says he said you know I tried it your way I tried it the the you know the haradi way the Orthodox way men and women separate and all that and and the women you know the women ran away and and and and and and she was lost and she didn't and she never came back so I he said you know I see that it's failing okay well number one the fact is that so many people did it that way the way the title says and it didn't fail number two who says that the way you did it the results are positive even though maybe they became from an orthodox there's a lot of issues you know so when we when we study models and and development of cultures I think we really need to be kind of objective and it's very hard for me as a you know ingrown born and bred laborator or Slimer who came from his world or of salmon okay from his world it's it's very tricky it's very tricky that the the yes doesn't get in the way and the yes doesn't mean horrible things that you're a bad person it just means we have a little agenda we all have a little agenda and what we have to look at I think is today did these models work and if they did how do they work and B if they didn't how can they be corrected so it's not about it's not about you know destroying the models belittling the models it's about improving the models and without that be here I say all this because now did that be here just throws in like very quickly he doesn't even explain you know the God was Hashem the greatness of God everyone else will have his idea of it what the greatness of God is the awesomeness of God so the answer says I'll tell you what no it's not up to you my less so even cooler coming and and invest yourself in that now what does that mean oh I have to learn about my Malay I have to learn about saving I have to learn about Colonial kame and I have to debate it and I have to talk it out you know um Free Will and existence and everything else and when you immerse yourself in that world really outside of any agendas you know then you you come to some authentic you can come to some authentic results and create the model based on that not based on well the woman ran away or the guy says that he doesn't relate to it it doesn't work that way what I'm saying is schleiman might have been right the woman ran away I'm not saying that didn't happen but who says that that's the way to determine what the model should be you understand who it believe that the Kabbalah the Ariza the the Zara colors and other sadiqib the percentage they gave us a model that we we believe to be the right model then we follow that model and we don't deviate from that model and it couldn't be done it could be done but when you allow outside issues especially if you yourself and your life have issues and go through issues then it becomes a big hodgepodge and and and uh you know so I I I'm I'm being on one hand I'm being sympathetic to people I'm talking to from the 60s and 70s who constantly tell me you don't understand the culture then you don't understand the world there and if you would have lived then you would understand the model the salmon model and things like that and it's true I I mean you know I I was born then but I was a young boy and they you know Appreciate Me by 10 years or so 10 15 years so I'm not technically from the baby boomer generation but nevertheless you know I I was around him both in Morristown as anything tell you with his his Cafe rim and Yeshiva was full of these type of guys whoa the whole right guy who's in the whole base mattress had these these these guys you know so I was exposed to them I spoke to them and then in my own training and work so you know and and and just the other day two two people said to me says you're well-meaning but you didn't taste it if you didn't taste it you don't know what it is and um I I hear it I hear it referring to what referring to LSD trips you know and and you know psychedelic experiences and and how to and how would I have reacted if I were to be and also the whole culture of the 60s you know um you know music and and and and culture and the other area which I don't want to talk about which you understand women know that uh it was it was a whole a whole culture now what the what that happened my teachers taught me is and that ever spoke about not these things but he's he spoke about that there's a tidal way and the title like this doesn't change we have to apply authentic data to situations but not to change title this Hillel was one of his main accordis in 50s people say that he was at that time 55 on the you'll see Secrets where he spoke a lot about title doesn't change not making compromises and and the word on the street and if no one can prove this is that he was referring you know to slay menzelman and people like that that were using the model but changing it a little bit because compromising because of various situations but again I I can't I can't prove it you know but but it makes sense because why pooped at that time 55 56 57 because those were the years even before 63 Timothy Leary with LSD already um you know it was happening and then with the the assassination of Kennedy so I hear it and you know but at the same time the Toyota establishes the way and if you learn Tanya and you stick to Tanya not you you take the Tanya and you apply it to your model as you see your model no no you take your model and you make it like what it says in Tanya but Men Women Believe me there was words tuning in with the schmuck can in Milwaukee there were there were people in the in the field in the 60s and they retained their religiosity and they worked with students and they made balichuva so you'll say well it's it's really pittance compared to the thou hundreds of thousands you know and all of that hey one was here one was there everyone you know in their area would say he I he in my tape he says when he went to uh Woodstock I think and he saw I forget the hill what was the name of that Guru swatchy swamachi or something yeah so he said he saw him and or someone else and he said to himself okay would be here could you imagine how many thousands of young people would flocked him and and his argument was why wasn't there empathy right now it's a very simple why because there was men and women all over and and and and and a from Jew watches his eyes and and it's not a venue where he can be just on a simple level so what is he gonna do he's going to stand outside across the street with a loud speaker come on get real number two what was going on there everyone knows uh was you know a lot of it was intolerable and not and not terrific so you want the laborator but to be there and number three and number three as at Sadiq and as someone who did have a vision and who did see the power of the youth and he did speak about Outreach and it did sense look him he needs to in a sense be above it you you have to be above it you have to direct others so he's hoping that aslamic and a salmon and a slave of Schwartz and and the other Orthodox guys that went will in the appropriate way do it and and for example in in in not Woodstock but hate Asbury and the famous uh Summer of 69 March where everyone started to March down to the beach and everyone knows what was going on there which was against people this is what I was told I think I was told this by someone who was on the march with Slimer and they started to March down from the house and a little prayer and instead of going down to the beach he made a left and he took them away that's tayden that's hello understood that if they go down to the beach he won't be able to stop anyone from doing whatever they're doing and and and and therefore he he made a quick kind of Hawaii to the left and and they went with him to the left so what I'm saying is you know these are things to to to look at now so many years later and that we could create a model unfortunately unfortunately you know today today we don't have the Seekers we don't have you know I'm thinking about like like you know I don't think that that this model can even work today because it's everyone's just about you know a nice house a nice car a nice wife money and pleasure it you know get the youth to to to want to want something spiritual and godly and we I know we say oh there's something about true of a movement that's so strong today there's so many yeshivas and all that but hey guys Asia Taylor Chabad they had the the Baltimore programs have met have either closed or or or dwindled okay you know cause Spade of spade and I and I and and I just spoke to a Jewish renewal person and and she admitted to me and I said seems to me that by you guys too there isn't Youth and she says you're right we're going to have to evolve and figure out something so the world whether it's from Jewish renewaltera you know everyone that's working with people that want to get closer supposedly to God they're not finding the people so in other words what I'm saying is iflaima and Solomon and others today I'm not sure they would I'm not sure they would they would schlava with his music would still score because his music is powerful but zalma for example I don't think he would have who to talk to laughs he just wouldn't have who to talk to they're not interested you know Sufism godliness you know ecumenism yeah so maybe you find monks and and sufis and Catholics but in the Jew did you the Jewish kid on college campus and that's why many Chabad College rabbis then we have like 300 Chabad rabbis on campuses today primarily it's the chicken soup Friday night that the Rapids and prepares and serves that's what talks to them and a good story and a good look I am at the table and a good dancing and you know singing together you know and I've asked them I said why don't you make these Pages like when you're in this one I you know these encounters that Chabad made in December and you had to you know a man of Friedman and then zalon Posner and Emmanuel and Dr Black and Dr hanoka these were our big scientists and guns you know talking to them and debating I said why don't you do that today he says because they're not interested it's a handful at Harvard at Cambridge at Oxford at Columbia but most of the students that we encounter and therefore what is our model to get them to marry a Jew that is the model today that Chabad campus are primarily interested in is to create a warm bond between them and the and the Chabad Rabbi and Robinson and and then a priest to get them will marry a Jew Orthodox not Orthodox a Jewish woman so it's you know that's a major change yes Halo yes uh about 30 some years ago I I did some teaching in South Africa yeah from Mary swell who uh who went to Africa some months after I did yeah and he told him he told a fascinating story that in the 30s the son of it's around was was in South Africa and South Africa was a very um uh assimilated community at the time and he said uh he said uh empathy said his message was just like you're saying uh so the important thing is that they marry somebody Jewish and he said and if you do that I promise that another generation will come back yeah the question to you is do you do you imagine another generation coming out of the uh this office that's more sort of spiritual incline what you I mean another generation coming from the the 60s 70s generation no no this was in the 30s in South Africa if they if they concentrate on marrying Jews and then then another generation South Africa I had a lot of Bali tuba yes so so I think if they married Jewish and and and we continue the trajectory that we're on now um there will be more balichuva but it will not compare to the 60s and 70s no the 60s and 70s you know it was a global atmospheric bomb that hit the you know the world and and and and look we had a covet I mean we had a world pandemic come on look around you what has changed Baptist yeah some people never had not well still from that and things like that and we're recovering our economy and all that but look the traveling the travel world is back and Beyond they can't handle in other words it it you know you would think he will after a covet pandemic which blew us so you know we we should be diving the learning all day and saying who needs so much money we need God Baptist Bob kiss I live here in Brooklyn in Borough Park and I see what they talk about and I see what it's all good they do a lot of cash it has to show them but the interests haven't changed and now the weddings are back to the fifty thousand hundred thousand dollar weddings what has changed nothing so I don't you know somehow the 60s and 70s what happened then I think if not I think you know better than I made a change it was a revolution a revolution we don't have a revolution so therefore will the the results of marrying Jewish help yes will it create the same uh potency and intensity of balichuva not not the way it was but it doesn't mean to say that it can't happen we have to all find somehow without having a 60s and 70s you know Counter Culture Revolution or a pandemic class of show them you know we have to kind of find a way of of reaching the youth and understanding them and and teaching them from you from child you know what they should be looking for and this is both in the Orthodox world and in the in the in the non-jewish world in every world that there's something deeper than than just goshmias we're we're we're we're really materialistic you know I I live here and I was never too slow and you know you know the more you live in America you say where you know wait how can I go there to throw a little apartment not that I have a big house but you know I want to come for Pace I'm coming for pace of my daughter doesn't have place for me she's on the fourth floor of a building a Tel Aviv for three bedrooms and three kids and there's no room foreign just saying is I don't want to tell you Helen what you gave up you shared with me you know from from from from you know your house and your property whatever you know you're building and all that in in Baltimore it's much different you know other people making big money and have to throw in the high-tech field yeah other millionaires with unbelievable housing here actually on the water yes but the average person who will be able to afford an America a larger house you know a second car you know things like that no most of you guys don't have even cars as far as they know right that's it's not because it's just you know the price of car the price of gas where am I gonna park it and tickets and police you know it's it's a headache a company you know here in Florida I say I hate driving in New York right because the the roads and the traffic but in Florida wide roads five cars parking in in the driveway on the street some higher it is it releases you know you don't have the rookie is a very slow so here's the question what's your parathy is and this is us from Yeadon because you know this is us this is not they it's us and until there's a shift in that in in this way of thinking so I I don't see the same results good results but not the same results that's my long-winded answer to your question hello okay camera we'll see everyone tomorrow have a great tuba shot only survivism to everyone