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Tefillah: How A Comma Can Change the Whole Meaning By Rabbi Dr. Ahron Adler
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okay bov um this year as all our shum
this year are dedicated in memory
of and the learning should also be a
that should allow all of our to come
home safely and all our to come home
safely and we should end this properly
for the whatever that's supposed to
mean has an idea of
what is all
about um the page I just handed out now
there might still be some carries a
title Cong 18th of mut the 18th World
Congress of Jewish studies which was
conducted here inim in the summer of
2022 where I presented this particular
topic but it has the sources that I want
for the coming shim so you'll have to
excuse me with the
topic very strange
title in
the that appear in now the ramb was a
class aaradi a thoroughbred SAR um while
there are some
ashar greats who um were were are
somewhat of a
hybrid sometimes because
of relocation and sometimes because who
their teachers were the rambam was not
I'll just give you two examples one was
the ramban RAB mosman clearly a sardy
giant no doubt Barcelona 13th century
except that some of his teachers were
from the balv were those who migrated
from France so he has ashkanazi training
as well so ramban is categorically a
hybrid but even more so rabo AER known
as The Rush The Rush was born in ashaz
and migrates to Spain and becomes a r
and
Toledo in the um in the 14th century
already late 13th century beginning of
14th century he clearly writes his per
on the in the style of the tovot so you
can see that that he is in line with
that kind of tradition yet when he
writes his sh his responsum
when he's a in Toledo in Spain it has
the style of thei ranim so he was able
to adapt to be a type ofi POS while on
the other hand he was a Paran a one who
exposit to explain the in the spirit of
the to for so this is something that we
have I mean there are many of you may
remember from Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn
the rabbi
liberman who Rabbi of the Syrian
Community you know how did that happen
and how did Rabbi mayor salvic grandson
of raron salvic become the rabbi of the
Spanish Portuguese synagogue in New York
city so these things happen or for that
matter the thei was the father of rabak
of emden the great R from Germany 300
years ago his father was was get a
position in Amsterdam and he was a r
over a community
of Spaniards who fled from the expulsion
and they were now in Amsterdam a very
large Jewish Community Jewish
community and he becomes the RV and
that's why he's
named is is what they told they gave to
the ronam of the spum and he's
Thoroughbred ashkanazi except that he's
rabona in aardi community so he's
the but so rakov emden his son is known
as RAB yob Ben so the is the and the Ra
enden was more popularly known by his
abbreviations bet sadic Yakov Ben the
yitz and that generated the name javitz
like in Jake Javit the great senator
from New York State who was and the
Javit Center in his memory in Manhattan
who was a great great great great great
great grandson of the rakov and the not
bad that's pretty good and he knew knew
about it he knew about that but he
wasn't uh he wasn't a
bahid jake javitz but he was a friend of
the Jews friend of Israel for sure okay
so um at at this conference I spoke and
we'll see what means
Mishra coming in Nas but let's look at
the first two sources which I already
brought to your attention the last two
weeks and that has to do and this will
kick us off where Raba makes a comment
in the HMA
here is a general
principle anybody who makes an era in
the coined phrase that used to write to
author to the and
the he is an
ER he has to repeat the I believe I
mentioned it was last week or the week
before that the r restates this later
down down the road in where he modifies
he says yeah you are error but you
fulfilled your obligation anyway as long
as and that's the source number
[Applause]
two can be said in any language so can
you imagine you mentioned about the the
way a person says KES you can even
say in the vernacular in a different
language by the way provided that you
understand the language because if if
you don't understand the Chinese and
you're reading the brahan Chinese then
there's no fulfillment of the but if
Chinese is your spoken language and you
DAV in Chinese fine you know sometimes
when I listen to it sounds like Chinese
you know the way they DAV
but in any
language the translation should follow
the way the instituted the it should
have the component
parts but if he DED in Hebrew but he
somehow did not really say it in
accordance with the precise coined
language hoill
provided he mentions God's name and he
mentions the fact that God is the king
of the universe somehow the and the
theme of the is
there even in a foreign language he
fulfilled his obligation now that's a
far cve from what he said earlier in SCE
number one that if you don't say it
precisely the way it was
authored by K you are in error and you
have to repeat the that whatever it
might be and I believe I mentioned that
the V believed that this was a changed
position in the rambam and I have an
idea that the rambam changed position
based on a view in the Yi that's a story
I'm not going to repeat but um this this
this gives us a very very important uh
uh kickoff that the language has to be
correct now what happened with time
because of the expulsion of Jews from
Merit Israel and you should know that
the big expulsion did not happen at the
time of the second destruction but
happened at the aftermath of the boka
Revolution which was in 135 136 of the
Common Era about 65 years after theban
that's when the expulsion really took
place which means after theban in the
year 70 most of the Jews who were here
remained here of course we mentioned
time in Memorial many times that most of
the Jews weren't even here in the first
place for B cheni they were in bavel and
there was already Jewish community in
Egypt and there was a budding Jewish
Community developing in Italy which
becomes the
embryonic um community of ashkenas
ultimately Italian Jews move more North
and they move to Germany France Germany
and so on that becomes ashkenas but um
you already have from the days of Kash a
a very very small Jewish Community
developing in Italy but you have a
significant Jewish community in Egypt
and the majority of Jews are in what
modern day Iraq bavel Babylonian Jewish
Community but you had Isel
yeah so you have to check it out with
the gabim you're absolutely right the
the pace of
the should be in accordance with the
majority of the people ding day you
cannot hold back the community because
one person is having difficulty that you
can't do because that would be Torah
that you're you're causing causing undue
burden to the community but uh I've been
in situations already where the Kazan
was so fast that he he doesn't have his
crowd with him when you're supposed to
have a minion with him and that's bad
and that's very very bad so okay is less
problematic less problematic because you
don't need a minion you don't need a
Minion for L has a nickname it's called
because people have one foot out the SHO
so I'm saying alen is less problematic
more problematic is if the boru where
the just speeds along and he's up to sh
and kados kados he doesn't have a minion
with him you have to have a Minion for
for kados kados kados I mean you can say
this at home also but if it's in sh it
should be done with a minion so the
kazin should Pace himself that that the
people should be able to be with him at
all the stations uh that's more critical
uh really more critical even so you you
you want to make sure that most of the
people in SCH with you and the say in
the so you can't have a situation where
there's 150 people in 10 people
finished and he doesn't have a Minion
for kadha that's not right so in these
cases if you feel that whether it's in
theim or in the men they people lagging
behind severely so the gabim should be
brought to their attention and they
should discuss it and so on of course in
some cases the Gaba is going to say DAV
somewhere else but there that's not a
solution in my opinion but I do have
sometimes right I do have look in the
weak Dominion there some legitimacy of
Ding A little fasther because people are
in a rush they're fine they're in a rush
and thank God they're coming to sh in
the morning but what I do I come I'm the
first I have the keys to the sh and um I
open the doors and open the lights and
I'm there 15 20 minutes before ding
starts you put on talv like a mench and
you start
saying usually by time I get to's up to
so and I've instructed the after to cool
it you know to take it you know
moderately but zimra they rush through P
zimra so if they're going to rush
through P zimra so you might as well get
a jump start and and um and and and and
d a head because there's no concept of
that's why a a 5-year-old can be the
quote unquote forra he's just a pay
Setter and by the there is
no there everybody sitting down and one
gentleman say is saying it out loud word
for word the entire and that goes back
to the days where people didn't have so
there was a need for somebody to say it
out loud and and then everybody just
follows along and and he keeps Pace
that's all it is the kazin starts with
kades after that's the way the r says
because that's when starts when the
first kades after that's so if there's a
problem of getting you know because of
slowly saying which is a proper thing to
do all you do is come a little early
that's all but with regard to the other
times then you can just dress bring the
to the gab's attention or the V the
board of the sh so they should talk
about it yeah yeah the Persians the the
the r there's somebody in the Persian sh
that says that I they say the whole
thing out loud that's thei custom that's
thei custom ASM don't do that yeah
number one you're talking about correct
comes from the so understand that it
can't have any change wait we're talking
about yeah but the subject is the BR the
subject that the raah makes this comment
is the BR before and afterma and by the
way you already stumbled on one of the
answers that some people give to this
pseudo contradiction between Source One
and Source two and they say when it
comes to the phrase that
ends when it comes to the ending that's
where the r was a stickler it has to be
precise when the raham talks about
Source number two he's talking about the
body of the braa so there he lets go a
little bit and he says well it can be in
any language and it can be in every form
as long as it conforms to the theme of
the braah and so on so that's one of the
solutions to this U the villo didn't
like that solution he knew it he just
said no raham Chang his mind finished
and you know when whenever somebody said
the Rah Chang mind I'm in business you
know then then then I was happy that
fine Rah change his mind okay but it was
the galut that caused the dispersions of
Jewish people throughout the world after
the Barba Revolution and the breakdown
of central halakic Authority with the
abandonment of the Sanhedrin the
Sanhedrin no longer could function in
the way it functioned and that was to be
a a final word in the oral law inash
which means when the when the uh let's
say B cheni second mdash era the
Sanhedrin function so there was no such
thing as different n you know where are
different n may have developed on
Babylonian soil because they didn't have
the communication with ER Israel but
occasionally greats from Merit Israel
did came down to bavel and told them
what the decisions of the ba and then
sometimes they adjusted it and and
sometimes they they didn't adjust
sometimes there were minhagim that
developed independently in bavel and
became part of our ritual for example
halel on KES there's no such animal
ases Hal was instituted for 18 specific
days and they are the eight days of
sukot the eight days of kanah that's
already 16 first day of p and one day of
sh 18
in add three for the Yum of shen three
times around 21 days that's the mitz of
where you have the exact text of
from say Z that's Hal that is Hal fine
and we make
a RAV who is the great am in B hails for
merit Isel Studies by
rabi descends to B and he's known he's a
known Persona already and he comes
toes and he went ballistic they're
saying Hal what do you mean Hal who says
Hal KES there was no such animal in is
saying rashes but then when he saw that
they skipped the chapter or half a
chapter here and skipped a half a
chapter there he cooled down he calmed
down okay it's only a Minag it's only a
Minag Min so you what is Hal it's toim
it's toim so you know so some of you
know that I have a fascination of uh
flying so my 70th birthday you know my
kids bought me a a flight
lesson yeah yeah so I flew I flew for an
hour with a instructor but I I did it
did the whole thing did the whole thing
fine so my wife said you let me know
when you land don't let me know before
and then she said that day happened to
have been rosesh it happened to in rodes
she said all of Amish was saying tillum
for
you work dri was ons yeah
time yeah he
open said usually the passenger seat
right right right okay he they said
that's good that's good as long as he
did it by the red
light yeah if he didn't do it at the red
light I'd be a little bit worried right
they say a story of uh the uh you know
two people in SCH one DAV you know very
well and SCH with a lot of on everything
and and up and after 120 years he goes
up and he sees that there's a taxi
driver that's going into Gaden before
him and not even a religious taxi driver
so so he asked you know why why is this
not fair he says this Taxi Driver
generated more tillum than anybody
else we said you know sometimes it's not
even
funny so so the uh raav the rav sees in
B that they're saying Hal but then
notices that they're abbreviating the
Hal and he calmed down he said okay it's
only a Min so this Min CAU on this Min
CAU on then became the big issue do you
say a on ones which is only a Min so the
r says for sure no BR it's only a we
don't make a br on a we make a even on a
RAB Mitzvah so Rah says
p and and is a RAB institution but on we
say like on we say on the Mitzvah that's
not a problem the but if it's a so
there's no on on on Hales but Ren who's
rashi's grandson said that we do make
the on Hal ones and that became asazi
until this very day you go to a and ones
and there's no before in accordance with
the Ram's opinion and the rambam against
ra rash's grandson that filters down to
between
and becomes a
classic of the Asim and the which is
okay and um R who's you know thorough
bread Sardi who's fighting to restore
Sardi Min and he actually believed
that all of us here in no matter where
we came from
become automatically by coming an alah
because Roso was the marra was the ra
Mak when was R marra 400 years in the
16th century so none of the poskim
agreed with him on this but he said that
if you prefer to keep Minash you have
upon whom to rely
on that's very nice but he also said
that if you go if if a asazi is going to
worry that he said the every that after
120 years God's going to accuse him of
uttering in
vain ashim can calm down because there's
a principle
in if you're covered by A Min that you
do say a for something so you're not
going to be held account
for a in vain you I was worried
yeah right was that originally that way
no that's also so on when we say if we
know it's not 50% abbreviated
abbreviated Hal is Hal on the last from
the second day of PES on R says no same
thing same thing only time there's a br
is when it's complete and by the way the
Ra's was
to complete and that's a modern
idiomatic
expression when you want to say all pra
you know I want to shower you with all
Praises we
say that's a phrase but the background
of that
is which is
the and
have fine yeah
J
it could be I'm not familiar
okay teach yourself to if you don't know
you don't know I have across the
street I'm going to be there I'm never
in the bab in Kon I'm going to barai
forar so if I see aik there I will try
to remember to ask him what the Min is
that would have to do with the first
Reba who wrote his own it's
called and it could be that he adopted
the Ram's position on this it could be
okay I have to check have to check but
generally asham do say Hal on
the the um last week we also dealt with
issues of so so what I mentioned the
business of galut let me get back to
this that this caused differences of
because we were far away we did not have
Central
Authority things develop in terms of
change of n sometimes deliberately and
sometimes inadvertently by copying you
have to realize you didn't have printing
press everything was handwritten and
some say that the way um Movement we
calling yish shuckling by daving was a
result of one person had a written Sid
and six people around him would share
the Sid so everybody would move and take
a peak and move back and let the next
person move and take a peak and that's
how this developed as a custom of
shaking during daving simply as
something like that and it's very likely
there was some truth to this so you have
people daving by heart you had people
who didn't DAV at all they just listen
to the Kazar the daving and if you were
someone who did not know how to DAV and
you wanted theor to beot to you so you
had to stand with two feet together
listen to every single word like Kish
Friday night you listen to every single
word cuz person's making Kish on your
behalf and it's not just the answering
aain at the end which by the way if
you're listening to every single word
you actually don't even have to answer
aain because you listen to every single
word but we answer amen because most of
us don't always listen to every single
word you know you you blank out somehow
in the middle so if you say Amen it's
like ditto you know I it's like I said
it it says if you said it and that's why
we fulfill Our obligation for kidish
Friday night by having one person
saying
everybody but the point out that that
even though we have there plenty of
people in the world who come to don't
know how to so the actually has to have
that he wants to be MIT people during on
a Monday morning Shak or you don't have
to bother anybody coming to sh usually
knows that a so but we still go through
the motions of and and so on
but becomes more acute his position why
he's there and and so on so you have
differences of that have developed and
it's not
just
there and
and there there's there there are a
whole plethora of different of Y North
Africa and so on said that sometimes the
differences are minor you know just a
you know slight change of a word here
and there and sometimes it's even major
fine so today it's kib time everybody's
coming back to is so what's the so we
don't have yet A is for most things
there are a handful of things that we
have congealed but what's happening is
that under the there's and I say this in
a positive sense intermarriage inter
ethnic marriages the majority of the
weddings in her Israel today are
interethnic except for one grouping
there's one grouping it's the Ked
ashkanazi grouping it's the only
grouping that does not see favorably
view favorably inter U uh ethnic
marriages but uh it's only a question of
time that they'll come around because
most of the grandchildren already have
some uh others other ethnic identities
in their blood and uh and eventually
eventually even without sanedrin is
going to merge with come around with one
type of a here in is I'm am sure it's
going to happen may take another 50 to
200 years or it'll happen with the
emergence of the Sanhedrin and then
they're going to be decisions taken on
each whatever the is going to be so this
is important and I mentioned the fact
that not only are the words important
but where you put the punctuation
sometimes makes a big difference so on
the page that I handed out not now but
just I'm just going to go through very
very quickly to give you some
examples when we say in
sh in in in the morning
before we're talking about the now
right some people
say
they all say together kados kados kados
now the the the allowance or the license
for us to say kadosh kados kados is that
theim said it how do we know that they
said it because yes got a peak in
per he in
the he sees the malim saying
and they say to each
other and that's what he saw what saw
and heard
was those are the two expressions
of and we say in right we
say how are we going to express words of
K
the way they did it up
there how do we know
this it's the brought it
to the two who we're going to call upon
is they said to each
other
right this is all expressions from the
the scene of The Chariot that
so we are simply repeating the language
of so we say it
before we
say they accept upon themselves the Yoke
of Heaven they are with it
and in very clear and melodious
language they all say the Kad so kadus
is a noun it means the text of kadus
whereas others say the
following it's a it's a it's an
adjective with holy Melody holy Melody
Comm all of them say it together so what
is it is it as a noun where the comma
comes
before or is
it well depends which city they open
up has the K before and the is a
noun
and and some people who sped have moved
the comma and the word now becomes an
adjective so again you're going to see
this in a s and it's not that the
printer made a mistake there are two
different Traditions as to how to say
this what bothers me is I know people
who
say and say you are wrong by
saying no we're not wrong we have a
tradition Rashi in his commentary to
yes
says knows he lifts the of K out of
context and he puts it in his and I also
found one of the saying
also so that is correct and that is also
correct and you say what you say either
we say what your grandfather said or you
just pick and choose but or what the
what the if if the sh has one
so go in line with the but you have the
movement of the K makes a big difference
how we say this or for example when when
there
no so they
instituted
says or is
it which is it is
it or is
it well is it it's a it's a thre
prong so it should
be where is this
found it's found in the or is it a that
finds itself three times in
the
now is it three times in the it's only
once in the right it's in ah one second
there's also
a where the text is not there but it
says that Aron raised his hands and gave
a and Rashi says this was the text of
the so you have at least a second
mentioning implicit and then there are
midashim that suggest a third reference
notice when the world of medish you can
squeeze
out three times in the
so you have
this it's three times found in the or
the is but it's only found once
where this has to do with the Kama where
do you put the Kama makes a difference
but maybe the the one that really can
blow us away
is we all respond
toades how do you say it do you
say or do you
say you look at you're going to see both
or none none or some sidur printers
decided not to stick their head they put
commas in both places that makes it even
easier right so this is discussed in a
to in the beginning of whether you
should say it this way or that way the
favored
the
and to there gives two explanations what
it can mean this way it can mean that
way I'm just pointing out as another
example where a comma positioned in
after one word means one thing and it's
positioned two words down the road it
means something else the whole thing
mean something else so this we have to
be careful about let's look at our page
and see what we have here in Source
number
three this is from the laws
ofah
the subject is now we say in the morning
as a part of the of the morning you open
up a s before you even get started you
have I would even tell advise
people shakar let's assume before
davening you want to nibble something
because you're just very hungry so you
know thear tells us that we should DAV
before we eat okay okay
acceptable there's there's a a reference
it's not biblical don't get me wrong
here but there's a reference that the
says
on what does it
mean don't eat on blood what does that
mean it's explained in different ways so
one way the
says don't eat before you pray for your
blood for your health that is to say
fine the raham comes along and tells us
if if you're hungry then you have a h of
a sick person and then you can eat so a
sick person doesn't have to worry about
this and raah says you don't have to be
deathly ill if you're hungry that's good
enough because raah realized that if
you're going to go into Davin you know
with a lot of hunger pangs and starving
you're not going to dve them right
anyway you're going to dve too quickly
it goes too quickly you're going to D
much too quickly it's not worth it it's
just not worth it so you might as well
eat something what you should do is have
a full-blown breakfast you know that for
sure not but the idea of so the poskim
started getting into this business of
you know how much are you allowed to eat
before so some say you know to drink
that's okay water fine tea fine with
sugar without sugar all kinds of
discussions all the poim start you know
jumping on the bandwagon and and and so
on the only thing is that if you really
feel that you know especially on shop
this morning you know you going go to
SCH at 9:00 in the morning 8:30 in the
morning and you're going to come back at
11:30 and you didn't eat anything that's
a problem of not fasting on Shabbat
you're not allowed to do that so in any
case whether it's Shabbat or weekday and
I will stress that on Shabbat there's no
obligation to say KES in the morning
before you inak because people say how
can you eat before before KES the
obligation of Kish kicks in after shakas
not after M after shakas so if for
whatever reason the sh wants to have a
break like sometimes on before there are
many shs that have a break before and
mus
and people make KES so that's perfectly
okay and you don't even have to wait for
but usually that's what the would do
they would Lane first and finish up with
laning and then you know go out for a
break but um the idea of uh of of eating
in the morning having something on
Shabbat or Y before daving you don't
have to worry about KES because there's
no obligation for KES before you even
DAV fine took care of that but um as
long as you
sayak bakar is something one should say
before eating eating or drinking whether
it's a weekday whether it's Shabbat and
then you know you want to have a cup of
coffee you want to have a cup of tea you
want to my mother used to say that the
BR on a cup of tea is
B you never sit down to a cup of tea
without a piece of cake Right Said the
BR of OFA isus fine so that you want to
something something it's not I as I
always say I've heard of bigger Aus so I
remember once I was on one of the Poland
trips in was sitting shop this morning
in the hotel before going out to Sho and
I always make sure that there's some
drinks hot drinks and uh some cake to
eat and so on and and gentleman comes
over to me as I'm finishing up a piece
of cake and he says isn't it true you're
not allow to eat before daving and it
was you know that was really I mean the
timing was impeccable I said I said
there's a be Ram that I can eat really
what does the ramam say Rah says if
you're hungry have a din I'm hungry so
I'm eating that's all simple as that
that I mean they accuse me that was
really something you know but but I
always very careful to say before
because isasi
it's it's not formal it's
not but nevertheless it's something so
one of the things that we say in is now
it factors into the S but it's an
independent obligation if you happen to
wake up at 4 in the morning before you
can even SA
because it's not the the this hasn't you
know for break but you want to study Tor
so the ra tells us
here Source number
three if you're going to study Tor
before you
reach and whether it's t you're studying
you want to read till them for that
matter or you want to study you want to
study so what
do you have to wash your hands says the
r there are three in ra is telling us
you have to say in the morning even it's
before the time of daving because this
allows you to study Torah fine and
there's nothing wrong it's very
commendable that a person is going to
study Torah at 4 in the morning if he
gets up at 4 in the morning fine so you
have to say I will just say that the
says categorically using for
words it's it's equality across the
board here why is that important and who
says it it's rosaro thei because rosaro
the spari Echoes the rambam sentiment
that when it comes to the time bound MIT
like
lul any time bound Mitzvah that comes
along with a so the rambam said women
who are allowed to voluntarily fulfill
these mitv should do it without
a and that's how says it in and that's
how waved the the banner
of let's get the back on track and and
women do not say why not the explained
explained because the ra explain
understood the word v in
the v He Who is obligated if the
obligation is not there you don't make a
ra argued with the RAM on this and said
that a woman does make a
on bound and that's why the says it and
that's why women asazi women do make the
so one second what do he do with the
word vitu well he understood it
differently obviously so there two ways
to understand how ra understood Vu so
most people understand it that R
understood the word Vu that it wasn't on
the person doing the Mitzvah right now
but it's on CLA Isel I mean why in the
world is the woman going into the Suka
because there's
a why in the world is she listening to
theer because there's
a that's why she's doing it so was given
the Mitzvah so she's part ofu as part of
irrespective of the fact that as a woman
she may not have been obligated to do
this particular mitzvah but this
particular Mitzvah is part of the Torah
of Cl for cl fine the had a different
take on this he's used a a a split
that's that's classic from the LD of
brisk the difference between and a an
obligation and a fulfillment and he said
that that the is one thing the Kum the
Fulfillment is something else you can be
in a scenario where you're not obligated
but you voluntarily do the Mitzvah so
what is it just a
an act that has no value absolutely not
it's a fulfillment of a Mitzvah 100% And
the object of the Mitzvah has to be 100%
kosher even the mahadin has to be good
and and a woman who opts to fulfill a
mitv that she is exempt is in 100%
fulfillment of the Mitzvah it's not
partial fulfillment it's 100%
fulfillment and that's this split
between and obligation and fulfillment
is the way the briskers explained the
dispute between the rambam and the
ramban about living in ER Isel because
the ramban counts it as one of the
613 and says you have to pick yourself
up and move and he did it I mean it took
him four years to get there because the
flight from Barcelona to Tel aiv didn't
run that day in the 1263 but he made it
ter Isel after four years but the rambam
does not counted as part of the 613 yet
the rambam glorifies living in her is so
what's going on here so the said that
the ran believes that it's a fulfilled
Mitzvah when you come in alah you are in
fulfillment of the mitzva of Y even
though it wasn't part of the list of the
613 that obligated you so this split
between and exists in the Lexicon of the
L of brisk and that's how understood the
difference between and for the word Vu
that according to R you can say Vu even
if you are in just in fulfillment of the
mitzvah that's good enough to say vitu
you don't have to be in the obligatory
box you can be in the Kum box and the
and then that's going to be good enough
and that's the way ashkanazi women do
they say Vu on all the mitv that they do
for sure so so the but that's the the
dispute
between
R the fine but there's no there's no no
dispute whatsoever even the believe that
there's an obligation for a woman to say
B Tor in the morning before she studies
Tor why so the answer is because the bir
has nothing to do with the obligation
for Torah study we're not getting into
the whole discussion of of of of
differences between men and women
obligation of Torah study that's not the
issue here the idea is that the Torah
itself the mere study of Torah demands
that words of sh of Praise are said
before you start studying that's based
on
a just mentioning God's name and God's
name in a wide sense not just
specifically mentioning God's name but
everything about toat Moshe is
mentioning God's name anything any Pas
even what came out of Bam's donkey's
mouth it's Torah it's God's word and and
and
therefore we have to bring and offer
words of gah of greatness and praise to
so this has nothing to do with
obligation or fulfillment it's a
completely different notion of why we
say B and hence women are obligated in
bir and what's interesting and again
when I'm going to say something I'm not
saying that I'm voting for this uh
procedure but in those very modern
Orthodox settings that would like to
offer a woman in
Al and let's just say it's in the
context of just women davening okay just
whatever it is the um the the problem is
how how if kazal didn't establish cre T
except in the context of a minion and a
10 women does not constitute a minion
I'm not going to be terribly apologetic
about it how can you have the answer is
they tell the women who are going to get
alot not to say the Tora in the morning
until they called up to the Tor and then
to say the
which is the of in the morning so they
get it done before that so there's
no okay I'm just saying is that a lot of
thought was given to to to this uh uh
but I'll really blow you away now so but
you have to put your seat belts on I
don't want anybody falling off their
chair now pleas please please please
please please the
um the question of a minion of tenan in
the whole minion is ten kohanim that can
happen my father-in-law of sh was aen
and he
remembers that in Frankfurt the family
used to have a SE and and and by his
father and they would have a family
minion for Min and chabas which means
they laned how do you give out alas if
everybody's a
cayen oh so that's the easy one so
is a Cen fine married to Cen so so is
your family also cenne not just a no
okay so you married up wooo my wife
married
down see so so what do you do so he says
right that's what most poim say if
everybody's aen why don't we give andish
and on a Shabbat why because somebody's
going to say ah Rabbi Kahana said he's a
Cen I saw him get kamishi so really he's
not aen it's gonna g to cause a rumor of
the of the pedigree of the family so
don't give cahas and Cen and cats that's
Cen sedc and catsman and katsenstein and
Katen Elan and and and and Kaplan which
became chaplain like in Charlie Chaplain
So Not only was he a shy but he was also
a Cen you know yeah yeah yeah so all
these kohanim names right and aai if
you're a Moroccan Why
is the abev creation of for the yeah I
learned this from you know my great
teacher in Hebrew so so you have all
these names ofanim and so on so so
everybody says if the whole you don't
have to worry
about because everybody knows that they
you give
a the only thing we do today we give a
because ma is not even in and if it's
not but if we give extras we give a so
then you can give a a lot of time do
this at a B Mitzvah of a family of Kim
so you know you want to get the
grandfather here and you want to get the
brother give a leyah the only way to do
it is to make Anon and because the B
himself is going to get Ma so on so he
can do it that's not a problem but
there's a Chua
fromberg who's maram marenberg he is the
closer of the balot Germany 14th
century he early 14th century late 13th
century he dies on kashem in a pum and
and and and his what happened was with
with rberg actually he was kidnapped he
was a hostage he was a hostage and and
the and the church wanted Ransom money
from the community and you know they
were willing to Ransom him but he ping
no because it's going to bring about
more
kidnappings so they didn't allow his
body out for years years till eventually
they let his body out
forur so so ra was a kados was a mod for
sure and he was the last of the B the
end of the period of the to the most
acclaimed po of his
generation and it is important for you
to understand this because when you hear
his what do you do when you have a
withan says well you give the first
alyah and he gets the second
alyah that's what we do when there's no
Ley and then
for you call up women
women see good thing fagy had a seat Bel
on because he was ready to fall off the
chair ready to fall off the chair right
give women why do women not get a
says
not that people are going to feel
uncomfortable and the women going to
walk up it might be might have all kinds
of thoughts when she walks up if she's a
good-look lady and so on it's just in
Yiddish we say SP it just doesn't fit
doesn't fit okay but M said I would
rather not budge on Thea not to
give even though here in this case it
could work okay he understood that but I
don't want to budge with this because
this is Ironclad I'd rather budge with
giving a woman an Ayah now that became
used this chuva by the conservative
movement in America you see rber pasin
the wom get Ayah okay Bes that but he
said it in circumstances but Rin also
used this Chua for what
purpose there was a scenario once in a
schul in America where there was a Sim
could be azv whatever it was and guess
come so what happens when a woman comes
to SCH she doesn't know how to get into
she by accident falls into the men's
section it can happen you know so what
do you do you PR lightly you know tell
the woman where the door for the ASAT is
then that's the end of the story so this
woman came in in the middle of laning
like some women come a little late and
she came in the middle of laning okay so
somebody escorted her out so every sh
has a zealot a Kan and this Kan yells
and he says that b should repeat theim
that were laned when the woman was there
and he made a whole thing about it like
the biggest Mitzvah in the world is to
embarrass the woman publicly that's like
a very big Mitzvah you know and and
there was a whole rash in the sh had a
handle this so M shabas somebody wrote
to Rin that he should give a ruling on
this
so he said oh yeah of course it was
a the question was that he said this man
said that the moments that the woman was
in the men's section so there was a Prof
the profaning of the kadha of theet and
hence the laning of those two three that
went on while this woman was standing
there was invalidated and had to be
reread that's what the guy claimed so
Raa says yeah there was a that guy's
Outburst was a that's what he he calls
it as it was because you know don't
draft me into being on his side and not
only that but I'm going to prove to you
I'm going to prove to you that there's
no PR profaning of
K even if God forbid in a in a AA was
done a real AA and he cites a Chua from
the Middle Ages where on Friday night
the Shamus of the Sho was having an
affair with a married woman in the
community in the Sho and then that story
broke and somebody claimed that the
sho's sanctity was profaned and the Pak
was it wasn't it wasn't so for sure this
was not a you know profaning of Shem
hasem and then he goes further and he
says but the marenberg said if the whole
was
just so then
from you give women a leas you see that
a woman can be in sh during Ling that's
his proof so while Raa would never never
said
that if somebody would have asked him
what do I do to just he would have said
what just said
give and the discussion but he drafts
the chuva of RA BR into service to prove
that a woman getting an Ayah doesn't
cause the profaning of the kadus bet so
what are you doing with this guest who
walked in for two seconds you know make
a whole rash and so on so I'm just
saying that that Tru of mberg was was
actually very important so now you're
going to say how many people know of
that truva of the ramar B so a lot of
people don't know it from the chuvas of
the morberg from the book The respons of
literature but he had a great fortune
that he was quoted by his talmid who was
the student of moram Rutenberg and he
happened to have been his nephew as well
and he also died as a modder in 1298 I'm
talking about the author of
theot If you look at source number four
Source number four it says
haot haot was an ashkanazi thoroughbread
again nephew and student of M
Rutenberg who looks at the rambam sari
book and he's going to tell us what we
do know to a certain degree he does to
the r what
raes too
thei what does rfo do he writes a it's a
prepared table what does the ra do he
puts the mapa he calls it the tablecloth
I'm putting the ashkanazi tablecloth on
it so it becomes ashkanazi friendly so
the ashm can also use the book fine so
today is a tennis match between and CA
you're going back and forth but the
printer did us a favor by printing
raboso in bold letters and R in Rashi
print so you know right away that you've
moved fromat thei view to K the view is
doing that for but the early on in life
in history did the same thing for the
rambam and he makes it ashkanazi
friendly look the ramam says that on Pur
you make a three at night okay three for
the for M and in the morning you don't
have to say again and but we says the
the the name of his re theber we repeat
the in the morning so if an ashkanazi is
learning the rambam and you you you all
of a sudden you take a second time what
do you mean we don't do this you take a
peak down in the page to more often than
not he's going to draw attention the
fact that the
do it somewhat differently somewhat
differently fine so here we're going to
see an example of where you have a of
the so I'm just going to introduce it
now we're going to do it next week in
the
begins that's what say
say fine on that difference we'll talk
about next week as well and then comes
the continuation does it
continue
or is there a v or is there no V Let's
look just look for a second at source
number three where I'm reading it says
on the second
line you you made three and then you
study you read you study and here they
are and then
says right that's what it says you see
it I have it on the line jump down to
Source number
four with now if he's commenting and
saying that by us it's with a what was
there in his text of the
rambam clearly without of he was
commenting that in the r
says but I'm telling you we
say it's continuation what is a v it's a
conjunction it continues the previous
and the next so you have one long
according
to that begins
[Applause]
with
first
second says the three why first ends
with end now
new and ends and then come the
third so is not just on but is do we
have two three that's the what's behind
that M but one thing is clear
the printers inadvertently
printed in the rambam and that's why I
have it hereen Source number three the
printers inadvertently printed ashas how
did that happen stay tuned next week now
you're going to have to come next week
because I'm going to leave you you know
the
suspense in suspense but we've learned
who the mar Rutenberg was who the um Bal
the author of who is his nephew there
was a there was a um there was a pram
FL Germany in 1298 that's where he
perished and I know about it because two
of my colleagues in the two years ago
when I was in the fellowship in Harvard
they were experts in medieval Jewish
history one was a Goya a Goya lovely
girl I'll mention her name Sophia Schmid
who knew the chuvas of moram marenberg
by
heart I couldn't believe it I couldn't
believe it she knew
the and the I mean these are
difficult and I was sitting there
embarrassed so she told me you know the
r my heart I don't know the R by heart
oh no oh no so she told me about the FL
progam in
1298 oh thank you very
much it was his grandson who
fell was his
Grand
right Alias right that's what's done
that's
what's okay uh I'll collect the pages to
make sure that everybody has the pages
next week
every