The Kadish Yasom In Halacha - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

she is which he is is welcome everyone back to the 27th year of the sunday shiram of yakuza smith actually biggest success sponsoring today's shift initiatives every or putting an ad in the dinner journal for the annual dinner vegan should retire this wednesday called higgins your tara 718-851 or email ist yeshivanet.com welcome to colin smith for today's show on the canvas good to be back because i could learn once again durability i was thinking that probably the most under appreciated part of our dharvaning is the kaddish that we say if you make it it's most often repeated filler we say it seven times in chakras three times four times he talked about 13 or 14 times you say it in davening every day and yet it doesn't really get the kashivah that he deserves look at the muscle and there's a lot to say about kaddish but just suffices to say the immerses in barakah staff gimbal when the edens say kaddish may rabbit in shul the branch of them respond to ashley and melissa mcaulson so obviously there's more to the kaddish than we understand also i should mention the gemara says in shabbas cuff your test so again to all of us he says according to the riff rush and tour the gears gazardina shall shiv shana so obviously there's much more to the kaddish that meets the eye but the truth is in the cottage itself there are different types there are actually four different types of kaddish they eden say of course there's a khasi kadish that's usually said in between parts of davening the third type of kaddish is based on the immortal solitude of memphis a very powerful a very meaningful kaddish that's called kaddish durabon and where it says in saitama that even though after the corbin one day is worse than the next colosseum so how does the world exist and one of the two things that the world exists on is the kaddish after learning taka it needs a hezbollah some schools they don't do that after learning there's nothing to do with kadushi also even a non-justin could say it but that's the third type of kaddish is the kadash durabonham and then the sugar for today is the kardashians which also we say very often in in the end of every darvanic chakras we say it a number of times either it's we say it also but with interesting even though there are many different shy lists but i think we could answer all the shout outs with really one important you say that we have to be mocked in the kaddish as it is says the kayadam in the beginning of khloe ahmed was a reconnaissance of ancient saga deuter after the corbin obviously they was lacking a lot of koichi mayan so they had to replenish and they had to replace the coveted chamayang and that's the meaning of saying kadesh he's talking about the regular kaddish he he puts it to the times of the ancient sector after the first ba corbin spells it out it was the ancients in it after corbin is reaching now since as the khayodam spells out it's based on the possibility israel it's very reasonable to say that kaddish the saying of kaddish is a derisa it's really interesting because if you old twill is the rabonan so then kaddish is more than twila because kaddish based on the positive in israel it's the mitzvah the rise so it's possible that kaddish is a derisim the mr brewer and kuffar cotton dalit and the safer terrace he writes the favorites that when a person either says or answers the kaddish he's making the midst of their eyes in fact we look into siddhi ivitz he says when a person answers or says kaddish she says burris spells out in the forus that saying answering kaddish is more harsher than answering kadusa which many people don't know i mean kadusha we give it special importance but kaddish is even more important i take a wonder why is they both kid hashem shamayim why is kaddish more than kadusa so it could be like we said because since yahesh meraba has such a power to it it elicits such a response by the abundance of them maybe that's why kaddish is even more than kedusha but be that as it may this is an introduction to the general concept of kaddish what's important today is the kadashiasam has a different source and that's based on a colby in simon kofi or dalit it's also in urzurua in noon that's quoted from a number of sources and huma or the sifri and the ghanian already says we don't have these madrasahs but we want to see it inside it's the orizabe and he tells a story about rabbi the heiler gataner of akiva he once met someone that looked like he was in terrible shape i mean it's i'm just being katsa but you ain't shambali and he goes what's the matter he says he's a mace and because he there was a terrible balaveda he has a geffer lucha nish of gehenna so rebecca said can i help you in any way he goes not really because he left over a son and if the son would say kaddish that would save his name but he who knows what happened to his son he said he was a rush his wife was the rashantha he left the sun it wasn't even come out so it was basically no hope but being the greatest person that he was he set on a mission to find a child and it's interesting barricas he came to a city ludkia and he asked about the person that he met that they said oh shem rishayamirka don't even talk about him does he have a wife oh she's a roshanta does he have a son no you don't know about that son he wasn't even come out but the keeper didn't give up and he found the son and a whole story but he took him and he taught him taught him how to say kaddish and at that point the the father didn't the nifter that russia came to him and told him thank you so much foreign golden sterling medes save this person from i also found in one of the roshanim that one so when a child says a cotton that says kaddish matsul of minapuranis please note that word cotton makadish is saves the father from perennials now this is the source of the mitzvah the union of saying kaddish it's again you see the avas israel rabbi kiva bukiva was a mosque with otsum the maurice says never stopped learning and his learning was to the extent that maestro bainu where he says he goes he burns them if you have him do you need me and akiva had the biggest issue in history 24 000 tell me them where did you have time to go and find this person's son but that was his godless but be that as it may we see the extraordinary power of kaddish that is able to extricate a person from gehenna but there's more to it and this is quoted that not only it takes the person out in the summer out of gehenom but it adds hussling to put him into ghanaian and the embassies when you look at this zoya the lotion of the zoya about this the kaddish the great sahar and the effect that kaddish has lost is the god of the noise and the embassies we saw what the kaddish does the israel but it's not a surprise it has this awesome power so basically the kaddish is based on a story of akiva the the marau's brother in seyface says it is a macar in the torah for kaddish because bilaam said thomas nashi mois yeshua yasharim is yahesh may rabb so kaddish kadziasam has a very prominent source how does kaddish work for a different neshama how does the sun's kind of help with the father so that's the old you say in gamora sanhedrin a son has the kayak to do something for the fathers in the summer and that's why it's interesting in rama and shin i involve siv da lit the rama says that we find in a madrid he's referring to these madrashis that a son should say kaddish for the father or mother even though in the story of akiva it was about a father but there's no difference father and mother and the hamas says you say kaddish for 12 months and also says to the sun just say get the maf there which some have that meaning so basically it's an in kaddish is a the rise of kidashem which a son uses for a parent to bring him out of jahannam and bring him into canada now that we have a better understanding of the kind of let's apply this lemaisom so first of all kaddish has two important components number one kid is but now we also see it's also a form of keeper of don't forget if a person gives his father something to eat he's making me to their eyes to keep it off so if a person gives his father what he needs most that's certainly a derisim i'll say but if the father passed away is there keep it of the answer is absolutely because the khamar is lost in kadush it seems that keep it up when the father is alive or when the father passes away is the same mitzvah the rise of kibarav and the truth is it's a swarm if it helps with the father so who cares if i is alive or not so that's why it's reasonable to say a sun that says kadus for a parent is making two derisis the actual kaddish in itself is their isa and also it's a fulfillment of keeper of i saw this in a fascinating chuva in the yada yada ragula in simmons salman has a tragic story there where a person fell into a lake and they never recovered his body so obviously his wife could not remarry until they found the body but his wife was concerned and she said at least let the children say kaddish for their father so rebellious skinned that kaddish is owned in rumi shalom and every mace needs it and it's a keeper of the raisa it's bigger than mccabe and he says even though the wife cannot remarry until there's sufficient proof but the son should say kaddish so yeah but it says the fairish it's bigger than keeper of baha'i i saw another fascinating chuva who really expands the concept of kaddish the maamshikan or khayim simmonkh was he asked an interesting question someone had a very sick sister and he was dabbing for her recovery he didn't know the sister passed away and people that knew that the sister died asked him i'm sick should they tell the person that her sister died you wonder why not at the end of sim and tough days are based on apostate mislead might say the bahux to say bad news so if you tell the person that sister died you're telling him bad news so ramshack has an incredible chuva he says don't tell the person that his sister died i used happening for her sister no it'll be fragile if a person died you have to tell the children that the father died so he could say kaddish she says yeah that's different because when a son says kaddish to the father there are two of them to say kaddish he says the mitzvah veda and the mitsubishi which is interesting i mean the person passed away already but he's assuming it's included in the islamic but on the sister there is no kaddish so here we see more reason to give khashevas to kaddish it's like and possibly also the mitzvah of but be that as it may i think what's most important is that there certainly is and keep it off but what's certainly important to mention is this is the real key bit of you know they i saw this story this is printed that the altafence patera came in in a dream to his son the laser util finkle the original rasheed of mir and he said it was his son and said lazy now this story is quoted often because here we see that a mace is aware of what what what the what the what the sun is doing and the mace or the the but to me what's amazing if there was any maori player was that was successful it was the altimeter a partial list of his tamidna i certainly can't say all of them but a partial list of the altus laboratories were by aaron cutler ruben gazowski or bank of kaminetsky revertiman raphutna raphshach or vikdamillah and moa so you would think a person like that has plenty of which he did have but obviously there's no end to shama and this is an important concept for a child to hear no matter how harsh the father was but the sun's main keyboard of now is chic pekla and every kaddish and every skus counts in the aureus of the letters of haskell eventually these things he says that if a person says kaddish without the right kavanagh then summer has a taina like i saw once i don't know how he saw maybe he heard it but a gilgal came back and said uh today's kadas kaddish wasn't good so the mace knows if the kalash is good or not so obviously every kaddish has meaning and that's the truth that kaddish each one of those 11 months and there there are a number of kardashians every day but each one has to count and either trevor kamas i would mention you know it's the oldest question why we say kaddish and aramaic and aram is it would be more appropriate russian al qaeda we understand so the simple terrorists is because because the the malachim are envious or jealous of avocados look with what we could say so we don't them to understand what we're saying so we say it in aramaic but the more simple terrorist is that in those days that was the language aramaic so you wanted a person to understand what he's saying so they institute kaddish in aramaic now that was a mild event but it's a siren today because we don't understand aramaic and that's why it's a wonderful idea it's a wonderful investment a once time investment for someone that's either saying kaddish or answering college again to all of us learn the meaning of the words it's not so hard there are khashoggin and simon and bob explains i saw the geshekhaim and pereira perrick lam and siva this is many playskim took the time to go through every word of the kardash to understand what was saying because if you don't know what you're saying it becomes just a you know a chant so if you know what the meaning of the words the sayer and the responder said it was more kavanaugh i saw this story printed in the safe alichas vanagas of the killer sianka a young man was nifty very young and he left over children a very young age and the the oldest was still very young and he didn't want to say kaddish so they came to this type of what should we do so the diaper says i really don't have too much experience but bring your child to me let me see if i could try to help and i guess the key word is with great jamimus with varmakhite the stifler spoke to the child and said listen your father's in ms and by him all the money and all the gold and is worth nothing but one thing is valuable your kardashian and he's waiting actually for your kaddish and i'll tell you a story and he told the story of akiva with the child that said kaddish and saved his father and then he said and now it's up to you say the kaddish it's the greatest favor you could do for your father and as you could imagine for the next 11 months the child said kaddish diligently so i was thinking you know sometimes adults like us also have to hear this from the stifler what a kaddish is how important it is for the nishama what chicken is all about but basically the kaddish is a facet shall ms for the parent that is incomparable nothing else the sun could do compares to the cottage except of course other sum as you can imagine but basically this is the said of all hassan of keeper of now i want to make a point because some people make a mistake here i saw this in the tavo of the yada leo i mentioned earlier in the beginning of the safe is that he writes that hashtag he writes to his children to think that you're saying kaddish for me he says don't say kaddish you're saying kaddish to bring kvoice for the lifter but he says piggle to think he's saying kaddish for the father and i saw this also in the siddhiyavits and also the geshechayam and ahmad shintazayan that you're not saying kindness with the father you look at the kindness nothing about the father now i did see gratitude in the safer oil the siddha the safer answer the oil is thomas a talmud but if you want you could add it into two places when you say i'll call israel or when you say oh yeshua bimraimov then you could have the father of mother in mind but the gist the thrust of the kaddish is not for the father it's for the question grandma when you a person the son does this give aldera goes for the father in fact i even once thought that praise can say that when a person is saying kaddish for a non relative an on father or a mother or you're saying for an aunt or whatever it is then you both say the kaddish is is that a steer at what we said no you're saying kaddish the mayan who does go to then this could be directed in any direction now another question i wanted to clarify how many times minimum should the cabbage be said in other words there are many times we say it in chakras a few times so sometimes a person finds it hard to catch a minion he's out of town he's on vacation on business or stamped during the winter he can't find the minion how important is it to find them and you say every single time and the answer which is the answer to many of our questions is you have to reach if we would understand how important the kaddish is we would find the ability to say every kaddish that's possible don't forget it's the most vital crucial keyboard so it's worth the extra miles or the extra distance every kaddish counts there are cautions and this is important to mention as well in nun hey gimmel some people say extra kaddish just the kaparine so that's not necessarily correct speaks about the isa to marble kardashian i saw i've seen this more than once someone came comes late to show and he wants a kaddish so all of a sudden he says kaddish i once saw one of the poison right that's the kardashian the kaddish is the awesome not the person there's no shah says anything it's like a main assignment so stampede says that's but it has to have meaning but every kaddish that you're allowed to say should be said is inappropriate if someone does a one minion so saying kaddish in the second minion has no shot but the kaddish that has to be said not try not to miss even one i saw the ralph paulin that's the banished chain is chuva safer in heilig bay sim and udalid we'll soon see he's talking about saying kaddish during sukkah december the question of hefsik but his but islam is vital i'll treat it in english it's someone that misses even one cabbage is considered because every kaddish counts is a tower of god for the nifta and it's on the simon to say every kaddish that's even one so basically a person to try to say every cat is now someone is an oinis if someone has to go on a business deal and there's no other minion so maybe you could say since kaddish is keeper of and the mitsubi keep it off is michelle of the sun doesn't have to lose money for it maybe it could be makel but a person has to use seiko and a little bit abbas over the email and try not to miss even one kaddish someone asked me we wanted to go on vacation and did i help miss kaddish so i told me after no mclaughlin if you go on vacation you missed feeler but sebas are so passionate i mean you might say well when when i leave i'm ready to have a myriad the next morning i wake up my vacation site there's no minion i'm an inus but then the question is so who asked you to go there so i'm going to tell you what i saw two tubers somebody asked this question he he was alarmed and he says i go to vacation and i'm there so he basically says you know who said you allowed to go to places dominion i you'll say you write to me says sadiq did this so he says must be tadikim had a reason that maybe they needed it for their health and if they had no reason maybe they're not sadiq and in a second has this is really what he calls a mikra a frightening incident someone asked him he went on vacation and there was no minion i don't know how it happened but it confused the days so he thought was friday was really champis and his entire family from eden the entire shop is thinking it's friday and they kept shabbos on sunday so the yes of us know what to do so he wrote back what do you mean what to do you're mahalo shabbas a whole shabbos and by the way had you only gone to a place that there was a minion this wouldn't have happened it aired out you know sort of aga but it's powerful so bikitsu the behalf going away to a place that dominion is not poshit but especially when the valves keep it off now again if someone needs it for his health emotional or physical health it might be a hetero but but even then when a person has a head to the miss kaddish we have to remember what the magana abram writes in kuflamid bays i'm going to write a person is cannot say kaddish let him hire someone to say kaddish in his place you don't do it for free so he says yeah but a doctor that gets that that doesn't get paid for his job won't do a good job also for it's reviews for the he says that basically if plainly says kaddish for someone else's father how does it work it's not brahma zaka abba but if the sun pays for the kaddish then we could say brahmazaka so whenever a person does miss saying kaddish he should hire someone the master shekel is on the page in kuflam basically august is gimel he should hire someone that that makes it an interesting question is someone asked me yet but why should i pay my own money for kaddish it says keep it up michelle uh of so i told you making a mistake you could say stay home and say cottage for free he wants to go away and not pay someone that's not michelle of it's like heim's famous story someone said he can't go visit his father because his father lives in a different city and he has to pay for the for the train kaffir keep it up michelle off so brian says so walk take you a month who cares walk oh you want to go by train for your convenience that's not michelle of heroes so this would probably apply the next group of questions we'll call part two is when not to say kaddish so obviously that's usually not the case but i could say one case that's extremely negaya if the kaddish will cause mahleikis then better not say kaddish now berkeley in our times is not the source of the ahmed and elias is but it used to be a time that only one person said kaddish at a time even though there was a few of them they would switch off and then it was common that the kaddish caused so i saw the gesture and perique lamid you gimmel says ahoy a terrible sickness that people fight about the kaddish he says the whole kaddish is kvue and the biggest zil zulenko my name is so how could you fight for kaddish also says if kaddish brings me don't say now the problem is the nassau in here is very great because when it comes to anything that he's doing for his father whether it's kaddish aliyah ahmed a person says it's not my cup my coverage but my father is covered i can't be michael my father i give me michael is covered so the answer is it's not your father's cover either it because mach like are based on the fact that only one kaddish is set at a time if there are a few even a few brothers saying the same same on the same father one kaddish at a time the votes the first hassem and kuflam obeys about how to divide kardashian and today you rarely see this mini give ever what happened so i was thinking maybe the shot is pushed because dividing kaddish causes ignored to prevent macholikistakis says that's why dominic was stopped and we all say kaddish together to avoid macholikis and once saw this very clever story left which once went to a base over someone that was left to young and the children came and said we want to do something special about our fathers left the young what great could the rasheedas recommend that we do so he said on the spot be my kabul now for the next 11 months not to fight for anything for the father's covenant not for nalia not for an ahmed not just don't fight if you keep shalom that's a great source so that's someone that's thinking you know tyra dick someone once asked me he was beyond his mother's 50th yard site do you say kaddish beyond 50 years so the question is understand well why not it's still the same mother so i looked into this and the the chuba the miners allah it's not in the michaels but i saw i was shocked by the question and he says if anything is him occur tommy for this minute that's what he writes because the bahadur after a person's buried 50 years they feel that he's gone there's no nothing nothing about him that remains and they dig up the body and they reuse the plot but that's by a girl that have noticed but for a yid it's unthinkable such a meaning after 50 years no different before 50 years the rav paulin in the end of heilig dale sergey sharm simmons zion someone asked that maybe after 20 years there's no longer a yard sight says the ralph paul and that's the beneficiary even a hundred years after the art site the first yard side you keep the art site so basically if you understand that there is nitrates and in the summer yard there is also lynetsa as much as a person could do now then i found something has a very important a very big trouble in your day many questions about you are excited about kaddish so i try to read the whole truth and see what's doing there but he has one seat cut in your dollar he has a fascinating shiloh someone in the yeshiva this has got a minute it was very common in the old days today you don't see it as much but in the old days the 1900s the early 900s and many people in a from someone died and there's no from relatives so they hide in yeshiva to get someone to say kaddish so the shiloh was a yeshiva had someone that the 1930s someone paid money to even say kaddish know how long does it go to go for that's 102 years old someone that paid 1921 for kaddish how long does it go for sir moishe says if they paid and they didn't make how many years then maximum is 50 years why lola sometimes means 50 years like we find by your evil so regarding i could understand that makes sense you know so again someone paid tavidas 1922 to say kaddish's father so 100 years later he's still saying kaddish i mean it's unreasonable so what's the cutter point so malisha speculates 50 years no that's regarding a mum and a shayla but kaddish itself is la islam question if uh a oval want to know could he say kad is during when he's involved such a december so i was malambat's host that he probably wants to get a head start and startup sugar is him early but he admitted no he was very late and he's holds with the zimmer and they're holding by elenu so the embassy is regarding saying ashiyatsa during super december the famous bhagavad-gita maybe it's a half-sigma we shouldn't say it but it makes sense that if the only thing can say kaddish is now so he has the mitzvah of the rights of kidashem shamayim and the mitsubikibarov and the original ralph paul that i mentioned earlier in heilig bay is your dallas is the favorites you allowed to say this during tsukudo it's not a hamstick for this very reason also the marshal and the sphinx of gimmel also says it's muthur to say kaddish during sukhi desire i must say lebushi mordechai in tanyana shmer he calls it a hefsik but i think enough poise can say that if there's no other choice the obvo or anybody could say kaddish during such a december but the embassy says i can't go without making a point that for an oval to come late to davening is inappropriate you know the i once said to maybe the school that the oval has is besides the cat at least he's on time for davening every day because he has to get the omit but to come late for davening it's something that's really inappropriate and bam is what he should do is david like find a different minion and dive in regularly and say kaddish in its place a parent left at zavo not to say kaddish for them so it sounds strange and reckless and attacker is i mean don't forget we're talking about the ultimate zlatka said the chickpea look and his minig was to say kaddish for 12 months and the father thinks he doesn't need the kaddish but you have to realize and this i saw in the academy a day a similar islam there was a different world in the early nineteen hundreds and the parents were uranium and the children weren't so he has a child they were the thought where the father left scared to impose on his son but he says the son should not listen and the son should say kaddish and he says especially if the son is the youngest son who's not so frum the only thing that's connecting him to get this kind is yeah say kaddish you do it even those who are not so from but they said kaddish and he said averted i guess in those days was coming fila is over his tiknum many children's davening was only because of the fathers because they had to say kardashian you know an upright jew even if you're not from but you say kaddish for the 11 months so if the father will michael the son on that so the son is really of gahak thesaurus so he basically says the father desperately needs it and the son shall not listen to the father i saw an interesting shahilah this evening in gimel alif rachel and tess someone told who his son became a chosen and his son said khan does he ask them of bocconi and the father didn't like that he said his son should not say kaddish he didn't want the kaddish for him that we asked him so the shalom said you know what let the sun say kaddish but skip yeah but you can't skip kaddish you know that's something that's too you know invaluable to skip if a son is a russian and the father doesn't want his son to say kaddish so then i saw the priya asada in heidegg base nun gimmel if he feels the sun's kaddish is damaging no maybe he doesn't want it but even there you have to remember that word that the falcao said this might connect the sun back to his father back to his father's roots so it's not kadai you know he could understand that it's really something that keeps that connection going or maybe creates that correct connection what's interesting is the whole tongue on the poi skin if the mother is nifty and the father he says tells his son don't say kaddish for the mama not because but he's worried because he's alive and his son's saying kaddish you know people have this fear that kaddish is something you know it's about them say like an artificial about sometimes so the rama makes a point then i involve steve dawg that's the allah that the son should say the kaddish even though the father objects because there's nothing wrong it's not dangerous in this sack because the mice of akiva shows the importance of kaddish and how could the son not say catches for his mother because the father's unfounded concern so it's like lavrov torah even though the father has no bad kavanagh it's not because they're they're and he says the son is to say even though his father objected you might say the father is alive and he's having atma's nephesh tara just tell the father don't worry but what's noteworthy them are gonna have ramen koflam at base if cotton-based quotes are reversed that says in this case the sun should not say kaddish because the father is being hurt but from magnus roma's mascara he quotes the ramon it seemed that all agree even if the father objects then the son must say kaddish for the mother and again the son should do with sensitivity and explain to the father nothing will happen it's not a hashash this is mini to say kaddish what to me was a tremendous kiddish and i still can't fully understand it but when does the sun stop saying kaddish justin for the departed parent so we would say 12 months that's when the art site is observed but the plea is the rama and shinai involved steve daley quotes that the minigames that the son owns his kaddish for 11 months the mariel in simmons nicholas says the bikitsu but their actual source is this one of the earliest and the truth is it's very hard to understand why that is so because everything about availas is for 12 months there's available the art site and also the reason what the what the brahma gives it's 11 months but for the russia it's 12 months so by saying kaddish for 12 months he is implying that his father or mother is a russian so the embassy is very nice to be optimistic and your parents are wonderful but if we see tadiki islam said to say cabbage for them for 12 months will soon see ghidoli insisted 12 months who could say his parents don't need it and the minute is that kadesh said for 12 months we said narizao it's also a school to bring the grenadine so doesn't that apply and the embassy is the taz and yeah they are raised mems if cotton goodbays regarding saying hiranika paris mishkavoi wonders that dominicans you say governor for 12 months what about merzi kurusha so it has a lambda terrorists he's saying it anybody's mascara if they have availus but maybe they don't so maybe it's anigaya but kaddish is more as pronouncing his parents are so young la maison you should know the such and that's the meaning of svardhan make no mention of 11 months and that's why the hida and shiva ibrahim said to say kaddish for 12 months for a father or mother and that's the meaning of svardim and even some good early ashkenaz i should mention in the base yitzchak lavovirov and the troubas based clifford and zion he brings a plea dick up savoir of absaloma kluger that his children who say kaddish for 13 months and some of the clicker was the godlike door and they asked the base he is going to leverage could we could we listen to himself up like we're embarrassing him for 13 months the average person 11 months he's not 12 13. so he says 12 months you could say the last month let the sun dive in for the ahmed and only say the kaddish in davenink but you know if if the klugel who wrote an amazing amount of swarm was worried about his insomnia the 13th month so how do we just say 11 months said the minigame kelm that's what he told his when his son is sorry against nifty young that the minute was to say kaddis for 12 months the yada leo dragularov begged his children they caught this for the last month as well it seems that la maison that's the minig of sardin and samashkin azim but i want to tell you interesting sugar that i saw because i was a little confused it makes sense say for 12 months why not somebody else he said he knew his mother's mindset and his mother certainly would have wanted that hitchhikers for 12 months not like minigash because she was a from a they are from them but she didn't say anything should he say 12 months kaddish so responded khalilah to say kyle is 12 months because we have our amaz minig and we follow him and hug him ah your mother if she had asked the fairies you have to listen but she didn't you follow me you swell and you're okay you want to ask him good learn a lot and daven good and give sadako her mind's what rapam one said he was a young 12 year old boy and his parents entered shiva tesla vodka to learn and is very homesick occasionally he got regards from the bala gal who came from his stateful to slobodka and he got regards from his parents and imam was like very relieving when his parents had more notice they would write him a letter and send them a letter and that was really relieving but he said when his parents had more advanced notice so his mother would send them a haste to coogle and he said then when i got to haste to cook my mother it was like a yum tif i don't think the cooker was still haste when he got it but it was like mom is like great wonderful so he said when he got older he realized there was a message in that because when he got older he realized when his parents passed away now he has to send his parents a peckle listen what he said says when it went so he says when i said kaddish for the my parent it was like sending regards when i learned torah it was like sending a letter but when i learned her i was making turn i gave to dhaka for torah that was sending a heist of kuggle so obviously kaddish is great but learning torah and giving sudaku and alzaka's torah is the haste of kuggle so when the parent doesn't say anything the minigame of ashkenazim is 11 months the 12th month he shitake and sadok and khasid and that's the heiser kuggle the bear haitiv points out that when someone does say 11 months it should be 11 full months la muscle if the parent passed away tesla of elo so the sun says kaddish until you're dialed of which makes it a full 11 months also some have a minute that on the day of it's called have soccer when he stops saying kaddish he gets an alia if possible says in those days when they used to divide the kardashian but the oim of soccer the sun had all the credation so it was something special about the aim of soccer the involved steve cotton test says if a person knows that his parent was a russia he should say kyle is 12 months i guess there's no question america rush because it's well known but that's an exceptional case of course it's possible without mentioning it but when you have a leap year 13 months there's still qatar says 11 months nothing to do with a leap year it's the door 11 months the geshek test and the egress moisture and that chuvas cotton says that let's see a person whatever reason can't say kaddish and he hires some of the cicadas for his parent than the first saikadis for 12 months because no mexico saw him if it's not his parent which means russia you're paying someone to say kaddish 12 months for your parent it's the same matter of security so that sack is not as clear but one thing i will say and this lie that sometimes happens a person is in college for his father and that because mother passed away take 11 months so now when he finished 11 months for his father should he stop saying kaddish but his mother needs it but his father is there so that's passion talking about their show because if you're caught in your test says it's that's not a problem so you've gotten cuffed your test that is because it's not mercy that is making his father russia because it's obviously saying kaddish for his mother's nisham also i saw the praise kim said about the silicon points that also that it's possible that if lamaisa the son stops saying kaddish after 11 months but when he learns and he finishes learning he still could say kaddish they're abandoned because the kaiju born and after learning is really nothing to do with kardashian could say it so the vatican points that out that kaddish has nothing to do with it with the khadijah and really 12 months if he wants you could say that kaddish after learning he writes it's it's almost depressing he says matsiva the fact that no one that many plays they don't say kaddish you have to learn in boxing here we do say kaddish but it's what keeps the world existing a fascinating question is when do you start counting the 11 months for or 12 months whatever it is for the ending of the kaddish is it from the makfura or from the aim of the patera now hopefully it's the same day but sometimes in a day two three or even four days in between my swears finally lift a thursday afternoon and because he was a receiver day at the couldn't make leviathan thursday right away they had to make it friday but it was very narrow at israel the kitsa there was he was left to thursday and the crew was sunday night in eretz israel so you're talking about a four day difference from the ua misa thursday afternoon and the crew was monday monday sunday night so when do you start stop kaddish 11 months from when kuro so the embassy is in swara zilbasa and that's why it seems to be a locker in koflammet bates quotes so in this case you could say god is four extra days now for me this is but you know it's puzzling he continues to be a lock and then you say ah but me look [Applause] a lot of days in between staff members frankly emotions some else they've gotten your tests there's something missing something wrong it's a mistake you're saying the same thing twice so much says it must be even though there's four days in between you go back for in other words it's always yo imaq for no matter how much days there are in between ramos says even though it's that no one correct i mean it's an obvious mistake but it must be a toy satvus but like you mentioned very good you're looking some mr burus they have the gears but the embassy is in svara as we said it makes sense to stop me at my forum and i'd like to add don't forget there's no answer to start to say extra beyond 11 months slide and do it 12 months had it been an issue you have to be careful but it's not an issue so once you have a swara that you're doing for me forum and it's not a zozo on the parent i think it makes more sense to follow a motion sack and if there even is a big difference you always go mi the next question i advise you urge with questions this is a true story i once was dabbing somebody's mincha and my first cousin i know well he was saying kaddish i know my uncle aunt were alive and it was like shocking so i thought maybe he's saying for his first swear but didn't make sense so i just didn't know what i don't want to say it i just walked out what the shop is i got a call that my aunt was lifted friday night and then i first might realize this ques interesting question if someone is nifta on shabbos or even friday but the leviah was not yet on friday does the avail say kaddish on shabbos you're wondering what's the shiala we we we start saying kaddish from the plural oh that's because until the furore the sun is an oine he's potted from davening and from trillion and certainly potted from from kaddish but in this scenario on shabbos there was the patera and there's no quran shabbos i'm sorry shabbos and though then it's not an island in fact he was having so once and that is exactly the sheet of the ties in your a day of shin i involve steve cotton dalit that an onion on shabbos who's darvening anyhow should say kaddish inappropriate if there's no kufura there's no gahannam there's no get him why say kaddish however most poison is very posh like we said it's not only the gahannam but kharis also simpler grenade and that's why it seems that the minig in most place i'm not gonna say no everything in in availas is minig but the owl poison like the taz that in a case with is not there was not yet the kura and on shabbos he's doing all the mitzvahs you should say kaddish now what's interesting is the mordechai in kama yardaya regis before the quran atoll is episode because if you hold like the taz that is before the quran in other words but as an onion then you make sense you say kaddish then you stop kasia mamisa because they shall have to say god but if you're old you never say kaddish before yo for the klura then taka you stop saying kaddish and you count foreign but the embassies i want to mention that i know men hug him that go with strickland with the taz that the ovel the onion does say kaddish on shabbos and yet in spite of that the minute also is to say kaddish until 11 months from yoim he says even though this is not gehenna for the future or the the i saw this he says there's so much nacha's work within the shaman kaddish even before the gehenna so it's very possible to make sort of a spot that taka to say kaddish even before the klura even even though it's in not only yet but even though it's before the forum but the young have sucked it should be 11 months from the oim akfur just a few quick questions about the actual kaddish so say that the the the meaning is of course even though we saw that only one person says kaddish but the meaning is that all the available say say the kai's together but i want to make a point and rabbi yahshua in said it's a very good idea that the avalanche should stand together takahe the minigame stand by the ahmed by the beam by the bema and say kaddish together it becomes a tremendous confusion for the zebra about answering they should make an effort to say it together i've seen this more than once that a person is whispering barely pronouncing the kind of she's saying it quietly and i found out why because he's not really a kiev he's saying for an uncle or a great grandparent whatever it is he's not really he does want to take away from a real obvious kaddish which is a very nice bin adam cave right very wonderful but the binyan sean in the chuva semi-covered hey and others also say this that if no one hears your kandich so it's not a kaddish so why are you wasting your time his husband was i'm saying with the regular villain and they're answering on everybody so it's also my kaddish but binyan siam taylor hoffman others say if they don't hear you they're not answering so either don't say or say it loudly ah you're distracting someone else but if you feel you have to say kaddish so you're allowed to say it i once heard an interesting question where someone is makbit to go to a minion that only he says kaddish he doesn't get involved with fakers two or three saying together it's very nice but i told him be careful because what happens the last minute someone comes and says god is with you he's a right to this jewel doesn't have a minute after that so you're going to be upset at him so your minig is bringing uh synesthesis if you program your mind you'll try to kaparin getting it but if someone comes it doesn't bother you no but you often you feel resentful so a little sinner is not worth this extra hidden the last group of questions basically who they say kaddish for whom so obviously the real kaddish is a father is a son for a parent that's the real brahmazaka abba and that should always be done if there's no son to say kaddish so the praise can say the father had the father could say kaddish for his son if it's shaykh a brother is the next choice somebody got a father is more of a quiver than a brother and if there's no father brother a son-in-law is also even though the son was not sitting over the for the father-in-law but the son-in-law has also the right to say so they say this father brother or son allah what's probably the closest relative is an ankle more than even a father because the anecdotes have been a bonham but often the endicott has parents and the minute you're not saying kardashian when one has parents and god some say a father has more of a corporate than an anecho because the father says javed for his son an enema doesn't see shiver for the zadeh so that's questionable who's first father or a nicole but generally there cloud an enticle is has his own parent and he should not say kaddish if there is nobody could say kaddish things was the highest summon as he said earlier even paying la eleno when a person is if the young the question is could katanam say kaddish katanam can't have him for the ahmed but that's not a problem because the original source rabbi kiva we can't say for sure but it seems that it was a child on the mitzvah you'll say but if he can't be about filler how could he say kaddish so that's involved steve dallas says that if someone could doubt him for the ahmed he should down for the ahmed with tavis nishmas his parents initiated to give a cut in the chance so obviously if someone's a cut and it's not a problem to say kaddish so basically katanam do say kaddish the only issue is and this is interesting a lot has discussed about this kind of cotton challenge because we'll say once a couple is good there's no difference but then again if he is not on the alaric map it doesn't have validity to it so how could someone answer to his kaddish just like a cotton shalom says that prima god mr burrow quotes him in raj tesla seath cotton on steve gimmel mr brook and tazhayam it's real cool to be my god them a child that's not a girl you should not say i mean to his brother because not a broker so i thought about this on a how could you answer kaddish to a cotton but the answer could be if he's so young and he's trained to say kaddish maybe he's look he does a good job so probably i'll skus for the father you should train him well and make sure he says it well then you could answer and just to be messiah with a davatov i remember vividly to go back probably 20 years ago when there was the threat of saddam hussein and if anybody that was alive that remembers it was a very scary time martial in america and it was taka pakha khadim he was threatening to to do terrible untold damage and don said was in america at the time and he says he has it and he spoke and he said you have a tremendous eight sir the best eights are avoid all speakers all kind of here natural and nobody was waiting to see what's he going to do what school he said because the murder says that's currying of 70 years so obviously kaddish has a lot to offer let's say answer kaddish and say it'll be great for claudius thank you all for coming first i'd like to invite everyone to oregon sherry terry's 19th annual dinner this wednesday and israel avenue k by k n east 29th street 7 pm opportunity to help support irrigators i bought satori throughout the year worldwide they're putting an ad in the journal it's been in honor of their bonnie monroe smith whether you're me enjoy call the ignorance your entire seven one eight eight five one eight six five one or email ist yeshivanet.com uh benjamin mastermind smith will say the second okay what's up [Music] hey