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The Marriage Seminar #7: Proper Communication - Who's the Boss? - Rabbi Benzion Shafier
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[Music]
okay it's 6:30 at night time comes home
from a long day at work and he walks
into the apartment plumps himself down
on the couch and takes out the New York
Times that's reading it okay that will
make it better he takes unwish nice okay
takes it rich nineties and starts to
learn English next okay good
meantime his wife is in the kitchen and
she's cooking and she's cooking and as
the steam from the pot Rises the steam
from her ear rises as well why because
she sing to herself I don't believe this
guy's gonna sit there the three kids are
ripping apart Department they're
destroying the place I'm slaving away
and he's just gonna sit there he's just
gonna sit not do anything he's gonna sit
there and as the steam rises her in her
steam rises and it gets hotter and
hotter and hotter until finally she's
had it she puts down the towel
walks into the living room points a
finger at him and says alright mister up
off that couch
you're either cooking dinner or you
taking care of the kids but you are not
sitting there any longer so he dutifully
obeys gets up takes care of the kids and
lo and behold they put the kids to bed
after everything is fine and well now
folks was she correct so most women
would say she's heroic she's correct she
deserves a medal finally stands up and
says what's right and I think everybody
will agree that he's a creep if your
wife is slaving away and the kids
ripping apart the apartment get up off
the couch and do something right so
everyone would agree that she is right
in feeling he's acting like a creep and
everybody will agree that he's acting
like a creep however at the same time
I'd also like to share with you that she
did something very very damaging to her
marriage and I'll explain to what I mean
okay and they bathed the kids they put
him in and finally it's quiet time after
and I'm sitting there and his wife
decides she wants a little spindle of
time with her husband so she sits down
right next to him and he kind of like
moves away
so she moves a little closer and he
moves away further and she was closed
and he was further and for the life of
her she can't figure out what's the
problem oh wow
why is he distancing himself what's the
problem we'd like to know what the
problem is and the problem is for the
past two hours like the tape in his
brain I've been playing all right mr.
Bostic ouch
he's at cooking dinner where you take
your kids all right mister up off that
couch you either cook dinner or making
mister for two hours it's been playing
in his brain over and over and over
until he reaches the obvious conclusion
I married a drill sergeant and guess
what nobody wants to be real cozy with a
drill sergeant so this is the point she
is right and yet she did something very
damaging to her marriage he is wrong and
yet they're not in a good place and
therefore you and I'd like to share with
you is what's essential for a successful
marriage besides everything else is
something called communication now
communication are you stopping to be a
look for sokka's again about where you
live that's not communicating and not at
all and it's not at all communicating
see ideas are information communication
is a method of getting across the
message to another human being and I'd
like to share with you some your so dos
about communication first we're going to
start with requests and then we're going
to deal with complaints how do you make
a request of your spouse and then we're
gonna deal with how do you complain
about your spouse to your spouse etc so
let me begin with the following here's a
question I want you to answer this
question in your mind I asked only one
thing don't raise your hand don't blow
doubt the answer I asked that when I
asked the question you answer it here's
the question you ready question is in
your marriage who is the boss who's the
boss who is don't answer that lap please
ladies it's gonna be very ugly no don't
do this in your mind in your mind with
your mouth closed please answer this
question in your marriage who is the
boss okay
and we're going to
answer okay I'm going to give you the
right answer in your marriage you know
who the boss is
no one is the boss equal partners
different roles but equal partners your
partners together when you went under
the chuppah it wasn't to take on a
master it wasn't to take on a boss it
wasn't to take on someone who's in
charge and even though that may sound
funny it's not funny at all because
there are so many times when husbands
and wives take on this role as it listen
I'm in charge of this here this is my
I'm in charge of this this is my domain
and I I'm the autocrat here I'm the one
who would unilaterally decide and if you
don't think I'm right and just watch
carefully here I'll give you a little
exercise
if you ever say to your husband you know
I decided to invite your brother and
wife and kids for a week okay
you ever say to your wife you know I
hired a painter to paint the downstairs
because the place was really looking
terrible you ever find yourself saying
something like we're going to my parents
for Shabbos we're gonna go here for
pizza ever go so I'll show you what I
mean I have a little exercise from now
on and perceived those words with the
following what do you think about what
do you think about you see if no one's
the boss then in everything our
questions now listen there may be
certain areas that we both agree certain
areas that you should be in charge -
charge woman asked me an interesting
question she said in her family she is
in charge with finances and her
husband's fine with it
is that okay I said fine listen if
that's in your family that's how it's
working out well and there is no issues
then it's fine and by the way it is a
very wise person my Rebbe there sugar
that's all used to say over and over men
stay out of the domestics a house is a
woman's domain it represents so why'd
you wife so embarrassed in a place as a
mess you ever notice that you place to
be pretty clean but it's a little bit
something and your wife is hugely
embarrassed because the house represents
her and it's her it's her domain it's
her area and it represents
gentlemen stay out of the domestics
ladies stay out of the rockiest I'll
tell you a little story that's very
interesting there's a fellow in the
colon for the time who they made that
kind of arrangement and after a few
years of marriage his wife everything
was going well except for some reason it
bothered her one of the shooters at
South sheet2 there she had a particulars
about soda caps on Shabbos and it
bothered her and for a good number of
time she would ask her husband asked her
husband and it really bothered her a lot
and apparently at some point she said
you know who she was dead already
come on a couple of years I mean he was
talking about metal soda caps he's a
plastic soda how you know it still
applies that you know supplies anyway
she decided that so I'm thinking thing
that bull by hands by the horns she took
out a English from earshot miss kill us
and started learning through the whole
saga he didn't say a word
she learns at page if the page of the
page he didn't say anything
the next morning she comes down and
finds in the living room the couches
over here the chairs over here the whole
place is rearranged it's just what's
going on what's what's with the room he
said listen remember we got married we
agreed we're gonna follow her she was
gonna stay added message she was saying
a roofless so can I see that we we're no
longer doing it so I tell you sure that
always thought the couch really belongs
here and needless to say with the end of
the Sony cap issue so here's the point
it is a wise couple who follow certain
guidelines and if in your own family you
find that it's better for your wife to
take care of this the husband to take
care of that and they make the
unilateral one side in decisions that's
fine but you see it's by agreement
you've both agreed that you're in charge
of this but no one becomes the autocrat
to take over to take charge of it and
etc okay so that's number one
before we start number one now number
two this is one of the most important
things to think about how do you argue
as a friend right let's say you have an
issue you're gonna bring up your husband
with your wife and you know that it's
gonna be a contentious issue it's no
it's gonna be one of those hot issues
here's the question how do you argue as
a friend anyone know the answer to that
question I guarantee you don't know the
answer to that question why because you
cannot argue
as a friend the minute you're arguing
your adversarial you're no longer a
friend now a friend of your own friends
argue friends could argue all the time
but when you're arguing you're not
acting as a friend you're acting as an
adversary you're acting as one again
how do I know him right by the way I can
solve 50% of all arguments in every
marriage in this country
50% well a very simple thing husband or
wife are you ok good
timeout stop change positions you sir I
want you to argue her position madam I
want you to argue her ok all your
opposition she's saying that I mean
she's saying that she what are you
saying
yeah what are you saying what do you you
ever noticed when you're arguing you
don't even hear the other person you're
not listening you're not attune and this
is the first first year sewed before
you're going to make a large request
let's make it very simple let's imagine
for a minute there's something that's
really important to you I'll give you
one example you want to go away for the
summer you want to go to the bungalow
and money's tight and you discussed it
with your husband etcetera but you've
had it the kids are driving you crazy
and it's just beyond beyond beyond and
you really feel it's important how do
you do that rule number one you are
approaching as a friend as best friends
who love each other now ladies I may get
in big trouble for revealing this secret
and if you think I'm kidding I'm not
this is one of those really really
powerful secrets that works amazingly
the next time you want something from
your husband
you know make sure I just want to tell
you this is very important to me it's
really you know it's important because
it's this and it's that really point to
me you listen at the end of the day if
it can't be done I understand but I just
want to know it's very very important to
me and I trust your judgment
oh do you know how powerful that is do
you know how pal I'll tell you pal first
I do not smoke cigars I don't I don't
smoke cigars I used to love cigars I
loves it sec as a ribbing rancher so you
often drive into New York as a five-hour
trip I start out with a big
long fat cigar my kids when a real Lily
say you know if the three for how was
the cigar gets shorter enjoy now but
what happened to your cigar I used to
smoke all the time I used to love it one
day my wife said to me you know that's a
good feels a little dangerous and I said
in that office really it's not like
cigarettes said her she said please stop
do it for me please
Oh 22 years later I haven't touched a
cigar even Castro died Cuban cigars now
I won't touch a cigar why had she said
one if a fee helps stop it you better
not do it I'd be smoking today like a
chimney please do it for me mmm that's
the underhanded devious deceitful okay
ladies do you I'm saying what I'm saying
to you is that if you're going to use a
little bit of wisdom
Aisha Mubeen Sbisa you know there's
a very wise woman who once said the man
may be the head but the woman's the neck
and the neck can make the head turn any
way it wants let your husband think he's
in charge especially on the little stuff
especially on the little stuff let him
have his way let him have it and on the
big stuff you'll be able to mold them
like putty now will this work every time
no it's not gonna work every time for as
well there are two people in this union
but number one I guarantee it'll be much
more effective than what you do now and
it also will not hurt your Shawn bias at
all you see what you're doing is as a
friend you're approaching a friend and
saying this is important to me I'm
expressing my needs
I'm telling you what I need if it can't
be done I understand but if it can be
that'd be great women it's usually
significantly effective gentlemen as
well and that's how you approach a very
big question you're coming as a friend
and the words you're saying are if it
can be done and again ladies we could
say the words because you're dealing
with a male ego if it's you know I trust
your judgment I trust your judgment
Wow Wow if you could say with a straight
face
assuming you could say with a straight
face you have no idea what you just
bought inside he's smiling before
questioning everything how I Drive how I
walk now she trusts my okay but assuming
in that that he really believes it you
will have bought yourself so much a good
will be such a design don't you
understand
jimp them in love to be heroes guys love
to come to them up to the plate and
really shine give your husband a chance
to to do that and you'll you'll do much
better so number one and you're coming
as a friend and so when you're doing
little requests it's always preceded by
the words what do you think about it's
not a unilateral decision it's not a
command it's a what do you think about
when it comes to a big request you say
it as a friend I feel I need it's very
important to me if it can be done and be
great and again if you could add the
words I'll trust your judgment it's even
better but again it's as a friend