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there are bureaucrats in Albany who
decided how you are going to educate
your children they know better than you
and I'm telling them that no you know
better than
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them none of your business Sushi none of
your business Michael it's the noneof
your business podcast hosted by Michael
anoshi welcome back everybody to another
amazing episode of the noneof your
business podcast today we are joined by
my friend my politician my neighbor Reb
benion Aaron weer it is an honor to have
you here with us Bui this is the first
time you've ever met heard his name
thousands of times and I've seen
pictures of him all over but you didn't
go out to vote many many years but I've
never actually met Aaron prle I've never
actually spoken to him so I'm very
excited did did you vote in the last
election I I typically vote for the
local Village politics for that those
types of things okay but uh listen you
know I'm here to get sold I'm here to
see if I'm going to expand my my voting
to assembly are you a rabbi well I I
went to KY but uh unfortunately anyone
that gets
indicted they all of a sudden become a
rabbi yeah it's true all the non-jews
they think that you know everybody's a
rabbi all Jews especially the post when
they talk about a Jew it's Rabbi this
like I'd like to clarify to all of our
listeners that are not familiar with
this that to become a rabbi you need to
know how to keep kosher very very well
the difference between meat and milk and
mixing it together and the laws that are
attributed to those thousands thousands
of laws so many different laws it
doesn't make you a certain type of
person a personality or doesn't make you
a leader of a congregation it's a yeah
it's a degree in understanding and even
after you have a degree you still have
to do what they call a shush in other
words you have to be sort of an intern
for another Rabbi for a nice amount of
time to know how to actual put all of
that knowledge into practice right so
it's it's it's an extensive process
speaking of I'm I'm curious what kind of
degrees do you need to be a
politician um well some would say how to
promise and not keep those
promises uhuh
unfortunately but uh it's like any other
profession you really have to love what
you're doing and it's very very very
very tough all those you know blink
stuff you see on TV as being a
politician that's only about 10 or 20%
of the job there's much more to it and
it's very grueling and grinding to be a
politician everybody everybody thinks
they can be a politician everybody
thinks they have it in them well at home
I'm a politician I mean with my friends
I'm a politician right you in business
I'm a politician in friends you have
politics always right real politics is
is very challenging you know in order to
even be a candidate you know how how
many doors you got to knock you know in
order to become um a candidate in New
York state you need to get uh for
example to to become an assembly
candidate uh you need to have 500
signatures of people that signed that
they would like to see you on the ballot
and that's knocking on maybe a thousand
doors or even more than a thousand to
get those 500 signatures and you better
get like seven to 800 signatures because
if some of the signatures are not valid
you get all the ballot so oh that I
actually did this how many but wait how
many signatures did you get to be a
politician at
home zero there you go by the we have
very little uh say at home forget about
getting signatures um you know that I
did this once you remember somebody ran
for office yeah remember somebody YY man
of course yeah of course he ran for the
I think the mayor of Spring Valley is
right yes so he hired me I was like uh I
don't know 17 years old at the time
he hired me to go oh you shouldn't say
that I shouldn't say that because I
think you got to be 18 so I must have
been 18 I I know I was around 17 18 so I
was probably 18 and uh he gave me a
clipboard and he gave me all the
addresses and I walked from door to door
and knocked on people's doors and the
first question everybody asked me is
like why should we vote for this guy and
I didn't know a whole lot about him I
didn't know much about politics either
but I had my pitch you know he prepared
me I had my little my talking points and
uh I I pretty much you know used my
sales abilities at that that point
already and I got him over 100
signatures wow personally so and I I
understand what you're saying it's
grueling you know and some people are
not very nice they're pretty nasty to
you as well and some people keep you and
they talk and they talk and you're like
I got to go I got other people you I got
other fish in the sea here I got to
catch so it's an arduous process it's
not so simple that's the first test many
many people who want to get into
politics they don't get into politics by
not passing the first test to get on the
ballot
right and even once you get on the
ballot you can get off the ballot by
people challenging the petition you got
to know that whole process and every few
years you sometimes have to start again
if you want to change your like you're
doing now why don't you tell our
listeners what's happening in your world
right now can you summarize it for us
well I'm a Rockland County legislator
now for uh over 12 years I've been
elected for four times last year was the
fourth U term uh that I got elected for
and I'm currently running for the New
York State Assembly I already passed the
first hurdle which is to get on the
ballot on the Democratic line and I won
a primary so I'm the Democratic
candidate for the 97th Assembly District
and I'm looking forward for people to uh
vote for me on the campaign Trail and
coming uh let's let's see if he's
getting our Vote or not but before we
talk about your you know your politics
and your views what does an assembly man
do can you share a little bit about what
the role is well it's uh it's like the
Congress for New York state so the New
York state has uh uh you know three
branches of government which is the
executive branch that's the governor
then they have the legislative branch
which is the New York State Assembly and
New York State Senate and then you
obviously have the court system now uh
the uh assembly branch is where we make
laws we pass the budgets and that's
essentially what an assembly person does
and how many of you are there on the
state
senate none like how mean like me yeah
no one going to be the first one like me
that is going to be this role of
assembly man is a new role no no he's
he's he's answering you like a good
politician I love it we're gonna have
fun here today by the way U I just want
to say how many like exact exactly
exactly 15 there's many there's many 150
yes wow but you 150 I do have to tell
you I've been it goes per District the
entire state is divided by 100 and I run
for the 97th Assembly District got it
got it I I want to tell you I've been
following you for quite some time and uh
I'm fascinated by we've been friends yes
yes yes we we have been friends and we
are we're following each other I know
that you were the uh the chair for the
budget and finance committee you there's
a lot about you a lot of layers that I
don't think that people realize when uh
just talking to you for just a minute
and all the different nuances of work
that you've done on behalf of the
community and I'd like to talk about
that for a minute specifically about the
school board when I moved into Rockland
County I I didn't even know what I was
in for I went to one school board
meeting just because I was like
everybody else why am I paying so much
in taxes and I'm not able to take
advantage of any schooling systems and I
learned a lot about your private taxes
did you know this ushi your private uh
taxes that you're paying on your house
goes for special ed it goes to pay for
books and the most important thing for
us at least as it pays for busing and it
was you know it was questioned back then
I remember when we went to the
Schoolboard meetings that oh why should
we pay for private schools busing and I
I was just shocked I was like what do
you mean I'm paying taxes every year
where a majority of the taxes are going
to public school which I'm not taking
advantage of and I elect to go to
private school I get that it's our
choice it is our choice advantage of the
public school sure sure but we're we're
at least allowed some rights right give
us the damn something give us give us
something give us books hear that we're
getting a little busting in the private
right so can you explain that because I
remember being there and you fought and
you really really fought you forget
about knocking on doors you're you're a
master negotiator you're a master
networker you're a master salesman
you're a master politician I've seen
this firsthand but the school taxes
drives me crazy you know what people
tell me I do a lot of career guidance
for people in the community and they
tell me oh what should I do where should
I live I always tell them if you can't
afford it and you know now that you're
planning on having a lot of kids maybe
this little town here is not for you I
mean you can't afford $30,000 in taxes
maybe you should think of going to a
town like in Florida or in Ohio where
they have vouchers and you could pay for
you can get your school uh uh bills paid
for right maybe you can shed light on
that uh that whole Topic in general
well the government has to function and
there is an important role for public
educ ation there's no question about it
you know you invest in education you
invest in the future of any country and
that's you don't even need data for that
but how do you pay for that someone has
got to pay so they came up with this
grant system that it's going to be paid
by property taxes okay so people have to
pay their fair share uh for of taxes
okay this you know no one is dis that
but for whatever reason in East Ramapo
and that's something I hope to address
in in in Albany East ripo is considered
to be one of the wealthiest School
District in the entire state of New York
wow and what happens when you're a
wealthy District the state gives you
much less funding to help support the
school district if the state gives less
funding for the school district who ends
up
paying we do the local the now the
reason why we're considered to be one of
the wealthiest School District in the
state is because they have this formula
they take the entire School District's
property value they divide it per public
school
student that number is called the wealth
of ratio now in East ripo there's about
8 to 9,000 public school students and
and there is
about now 25 to 30 maybe even more than
30,000 private school students wow so
they don't take all these private school
students into the equation only the
public schools however the property
value of all these private school
students where they live goes into the
equation therefore we're one of the
wealthiest school district and the state
does not give us the proper proper
support and funding if we would have
changed the formula to truly reflect the
wealth of the East Ramapo school
district we would have gotten millions
of dollars more and we would have been
considered to be one of the middle
middle taxed locations in the state and
that has been going on for years we have
been short changing when I say we I say
the kids the students of the public
school and the private schools and
that's a shame people in Albany the
politicians in Albany were are taking
cover by divide and conquer dividing the
public school population and and VV the
private school population to fight so
they don't have to come up with a
solution and that's what's happening in
how much of our taxes is going to what
exactly do you know the uh the majority
well the sales tax mortgage tax and all
sorts of taxes you know but I'm talking
about a half a million dollar house
right half a million to million dollar
house and it's 20 to $30,000 in taxes
that's the reality of Rockland County
and my question to you is what what is
going to where is it so so the uh
property taxes on the property ends up
paying either three municipalities or
four if you're in a village you end up
paying Village taxes town taxes County
taxes and school taxes okay so if you're
not in a village you only pay for the
town County and uh school taxes uh the
line share of your property uh taxes
depending where you live is is the
school tax another way could be anywhere
between 50 to 60 to even 70% of your
school of your property tax that could
go to the school again depending where
you live that's the lon share the
smallest amount of your property tax is
for the county and believe it or not um
I've been on the county uh legislation
now for a couple years I'm I'm chairing
the budget and finance committee which
is responsible to putting together the
budget which affects your property taxes
last year we had a property tax decrease
I think is it was an historic
accomplishment it hasn't been happening
for but percentage wise we're not
talking about a lot of money meaning
because it's the smallest a smaller
amount smallest portion of the proper
it's an accomplishment I like that word
decrease when's the last time anything
around went down it doesn't make me feel
good I'm sorry being honest I appreciate
it thank you please work on our School
vouchers and let a leave the garbage and
a little win sure that's okay sure we
could celebrate the wins you have 24
hours to celebrate your wins remember
hours that's it we we going to chew gum
and walk at the same time exactly you
can do both as long as we're walking on
sidewalks and we're getting our garbage
picked up uh you know from the front
which I like you know I learned
something in Rockland County which I
think I believe is in every town or
County and maybe you can clarify this
it's a little secret word that people
don't talk about unless you're in the
real estate industry and that's called
un Incorporated mhm right so it's like
you have properties and I'd love to know
the history of this so like you know you
had what does that even mean what you
have a development you have a community
neighbor who's unincorporated and he
could sell his house my neighbor it's
the weirdest thing and then the person
after him is no longer an uninor they're
part of Pomona I'm part of Pomona
they're part of Pomona and in the middle
there's like four or five houses somehow
they're unincorporated what does that
even mean and we'll get to that in a
second I hope you can shed light on this
but what I learned is that for example
you need 35,000 square ft of a property
in order to have a house right with a
pool let's say right that's what you
need to have a property so if you have
70,000 square fet on a property you can
subdivide it into two properties right
you can then sell one off or you can
make a house for your kid or whatever
you're into right so however in
unincorporated ripo if your property is
the same size you can do a lot more in
fact right near where we live a school
is going up on a property that was meant
to be a house yep that's unincorporated
ramp right right that's the what I'm
talking about understand this process
you sh light to this unincorporated
simply mean that you're not in a village
Rockland County is comprised of Five
Towns Orangetown ripo clarktown
havestraw and Stony Point okay so the
town has jurisdiction for the entire
town and that includes zoning that's the
important part now the there's a there's
a process where um a neighborhood they
get together they want to become a
village now all of a sudden they become
incorporated as a village pona I'm sorry
what's the advantages of becoming a
village because now you're about to say
why some are choose not to be part of
the village so the well it goes the
other way around in other words there
was a town and then you you can decide
to become a village or dissolve a
village correct uh there was a village
that got dissolved in in I believe in
Clarkstown recently and what are they
dissolving what kind of services do they
they not have anymore so you have the
same service in other words you have the
same Services you have to provide the
same which is you know policing garbage
pickup and know but if you have your own
village now you can make your own zoning
so it's all about the zoning it's mostly
about the zoning but then you have other
little services that you provide such as
garbage pickup such as snowplowing right
and all the little things that a
municipality would give now if you
become Incorporated become a vill
now all of a sudden they take the
responsibility for it and there's
certain amounts certain portions of your
town taxes that you don't pay anymore
because those are the services so
mostly the properties and the houses in
a village are a little bit more
expensive than the unincorporated the
ones that are only in the town of rampa
now I believe there's maybe over
20 villages in the entire County and
about 11 of those 10 over 10 is in the
town of R the reason being is because
those Villages were
created to keep
certain population out of the village
Visa the zoning MH so if you look at all
these Villages they were creating in the
1970s the 1980s some of them in the
1990s so they can create their own
zoning because they don't want multif
family the opposite they do want multif
family no no no they didn't want like
caser Village when Village was strictly
because they wanted to control how they
can grow and they wanted to Builder and
new Square was the opposite reaction but
if you look at other Villages amand
amand the whole the whole they had a
lawsuit I believe it was a federal
lawsuit because they created all sorts
of zonings to not be able to build a sh
Robert fredman was my previous RV he's
the one that fought for that and won yes
so if you can't build a Sho now all of a
sudden a certain segment of a population
is not going to be able to move in
because on shabas you can't drive to the
Sho right so you're not going to walk an
hour two hours to a location where there
is a Sho outside the village so all
these Villages were created at a time
where they can control the
zoning and in that way it was done the
way it was done there therefore rampa
has the most Villages but uh I would say
in the last couple of years things have
changed in Rockland County we've learned
how to live together how to work
together how to grow together and um
it's just a great place where to be I'm
just curious do you find it challenging
for you personally you walk around
looking so beautiful you know
representing you know uh the Jewish
people and and the community as well is
it a challenge for you in County before
he answers that I think we should almost
uh accentuate this question I want you
you seem very well spoken you're very
eloquent and you really are and
obviously I imagine English wasn't your
first language I imagine I could be
wrong but I don't think so but more
importantly I can also tell that what
we're talking about here is very basic
local politics knowledge that you know
maybe the Casual person like us knows a
little bit about we obviously don't have
too much knowledge in this space I can
tell you have a lot of knowledge we're
just touching on the surface of what you
know so this didn't happened on its own
this was something that you acquired
over the years and you seem like you
come from a background so I'm curious
how this all started for you like where
did you even get started I'll allow it
to happen let's take a step back is what
he's saying yeah we do that step back
understand his story who are you how did
you get to where you are you knocking on
doors yeah I've seen looked face plaster
all over the place I knew who you were
with years and years ago I heard of your
name and most of us there we all know
your name you made a name for yourself
talk about I mean talk about Grassroots
efforts I want to hear how you did it
yeah how you started and you know so I
got started into
politics um by mistake in other words um
I didn't really follow
politics maybe a little bit of national
politics but that's about it I got
drafted I got drafted by a great person
uh the late Rabbi yakob harowitz I don't
know if if you heard that name he's no
longer alive uh he ran an
organization uh which his son robt by
herar which is now in charge and they do
great work for the entire Community for
schools and so on and so forth so um he
he he started having issues with the
school district with the schools the
private schools and all sorts of
services and the friction and the
tension between the communities and he
kind of decided that I would be the
right person to to be on the school
board what were you doing then uh I was
in construction that's that you know I
was in development in in the city
uh I had a little mail order business on
the side I had no clue but the one thing
that I that I loved was to have the
thrill of an experience whatever the
experience might be um whatever it is I
like you can travel to Zimbabwe you
don't have to become the assemblyman in
the 97 District I'm saying or this is
only he has much bigger aspiration yeah
I meaning we're going to get to that we
have we have we have the lightning round
that we want to get to or you can travel
awit or matous or
bookal has an obligation to do at one
point which I did I probably traveled
over I don't know 20 30 uh maybe more 40
uh concentration camps wow wow I didn't
realize there was that many 40 oh there
were hundreds or many hundreds many many
yeah hundreds concentration you need to
go more even even even aidz people talk
about aitz aitz was comprised of three
big right conc Camp alitz B canal and
and and bua and they had I don't know if
it was in the T or maybe even more than
that little satellite satellite
concentration camps wow because they had
all sorts of companies and and and
factories all over the place and as
opposed to having the Jews walk every
day to the location they created a
little concentration camp next to the
factory wow so yeah but but the the many
concentration CS which I traveled and
that's kind of a hobby that I have but
um well I I I got the phone call
ironically now that I think of I got
that phone call from from him I still
remember must have been maybe 17 years
ago I was in the
longterm parking
lot of the Kennedy Airport traveling to
a concentration to a trip one of my
trips solo traveling concentration camp
look at that so that's like subconscious
funny you remember exactly where you
were at I remember where I was I already
that was a pivotal moment for you I
already parked my
car getting my luggages going all the
way up to the elevator to take the uh
rail to the to the to the airport wow so
I get this phone call I didn't even pay
attention he said do you want to be on
the school board it's it's a great
experience you could do a lot of good
stuff and I said hey hey why not and
that was the end of it I came back that
was the beginning of it yeah the end of
that beginning of something tremendously
end of the conversation and then I come
back and then all of a sudden I I see I
thought that you you just get on the
board I mean I don't know how that
happens and all of a sudden I see people
collecting signatures with my name and I
call them out say what is this all about
he says yeah you to be on the board you
got to get going to be an election said
there's going to be an
election
I what do you
mean and and I I lost that election
really I ran and I lost the first thing
that you ran for I lost you lost and I
could tell you now if you don't get on
the ballot that's the first test but
like the real true test like you know is
winning a test yeah is to run and lose
who if you can lose your first election
you
run that and and you could and you run
again that I know many people who ran
once lost never ran again I said the
same thing the experience of running for
office having little kids at
home late at night the results are
coming in and you got to come home and
they're still up they want to hear did
you win or lose and you say you lost and
the look at in their eyes it was like
devastating I'm not doing this again
what did you tell your what did you tell
your family when that happen I lost
that's that's it I lost move on that's
got to back to construction and and and
the and and and this and you know the
most difficult part was I lost by like
20 votes I mean it was like it was you
know had we done
just and the first time I ran for office
I had no clue what I was doing we had no
clue what we we doing all sorts of
things the stuff that you think you got
to do to win an election and and there
are so many things you saw my sign
plasted all over the place yeah guess
what signs don't vote so that's a a
little ele of the election there's so
much into an election that and you spend
a lot of money right oh tons of money
you're talking about running for office
you got to become a schn you know what a
schn means a beggar a beggar to run for
election you got to beg people for money
wow you got a fundraise and for votes oh
that's a whole different thing but
you'll get a vote a politician is the
ultimate snard house oh Big Time wow but
they don't do it themselves they have
their campaign managers no no no not the
beginning the beginning you're all by
yourself yeah but you have to go to
events you know you have to be the one
on stage and talking to people even even
if you're not in the beginning if you
don't if you can't be a scharer even if
you're the president of the United
States you still have to beg for money
yourself right campaign manager
fundraisers those are stuff yeah I have
people who are helping me get you know
fundraise but I got to talk to them I
got to shmoo with them I got you know
you got to do all those stuff to get
elected let's get right into the
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into it so we're going to ask you a
series of questions and the rule is as
follows it's very simple you get one opt
out where you could say none of your
business but the rest you must answer
okay or we throw you out of here W he's
ready okay okay he almost seems too
eager by all right we're gonna start
with this how many times have you gotten
away with something because you flashed
a bad or a business card how many
times more than
once it was more than than once and uh
you know um I'm not going to say that's
one of the perks and I'm not going to
say I got away with something you would
think you got away with I would rather
say that I got a break you got a break I
like that I like that diplomatic where
that's good and and we're learning how
toti I was about to say that yeah the
way to articulate and make it sound
better better I got a break he's looking
at with it I love it I love it that's
great that's awesome I love it that's
awesome your aspirations for the highest
office would be president or anything
under
that I would say I'm not running for
office as I'm running for the new State
Assembly if you run for a position and
you think for the higher position you're
probably going lose the one you're
running
for absolutely one step at a time
another amazing political answer I like
your answers I really do but there is an
answer to it and I think
I would like to see in my life doesn't
have to be me but I would like to see in
my lifetime AIC
person or even even David I even said
David I would like to see David in the
Congress a religious person it would be
nice I I think there were religious
people in Congress but I'm talking about
from the schms right you know from the
inner circle type of people that
understand our pain and challenges to be
someone from our real from the
communities to be in
US Congress amazing yeah in my lifetime
and I think it's gonna happen I'm just
curious on that which is our next
question is not politics start over
again what are you doing if I can do
copy
paste of my life which means you're
going to get exactly what you had up
until this point nothing better but
nothing less I will do it on a heartbeat
well so the answer is probably going to
do the very same thing I did till now
and I and I
if I if I can ask one thing from Hashem
is give me exactly the same thing I had
till now with all the issues All the
Troubles all the problems this is a Happ
but but nothing less nothing less I
should have the same Michael in my life
rinse and repeat who's the not even
rinse could be repeat okay who's the
most crooked politician you
know well I know quite a few politicians
that got indicted and convicted some of
them went to
prison people will say that's the most
crooked politician you
know yeah would you say
so no let's not say anything I guess so
are you I'm running for office you know
are you a reader oh tons of B what's
your favorite book actually my favorite
book um my favorite book would be
um its biographies you know no no novels
biographies uh this the author slip but
this a an American Author that have
written so many books one of them
1776 um I got to remember his name I
used to have I used to have his book in
my car and at every red light I used to
read really really um you got what's the
name of the book he had many books that
he's written make a note of it we'll
Circle
back Google 177 76 the author of
1776 okay uh the author of 1776 is David
mum McCullum that's it yeah he he's he's
one of my favorite authors okay David
McCullum check him out you know I I I
almost wanted to I I wanted to meet with
him and I just didn't get the time you
know what that's exactly my next
question and and my second to last one
which is aive or dead past present
future one person you'd want to sit down
for lunch with I I always wondered you
know we believe in Mia is gonna come
there's gonna
be who's gon Resurrection Resurrection
who's going to be the first person
you're GNA run to see in how does he
there's going to be so many my goodness
yeah you mean me personally yeah my dad
I mean you know someone who's
resurrecting you wouldn't want to see
how mosha rain he L first my dad then
I'm going to go to mosha oh then mosha
rain yeah are you saying mosha is that
your answer no I don't know what about
arini you're not going to want to see
pick one who who's you going to we go to
all them I don't understand there's only
going to be there's going to be
limitation there's going to be a
line the Eternal world we have the
Eternal time we have plenty of time oh
really so Messiah comes one at a time
you're saying Messiah comes we live
forever supposedly isn't that the way it
works we're not going to end we'll bring
on someone that understands that topic
better by the way this might be like a
little bit of a morbid thought but at
some point like it might scare you a
little bit supposedly they say the world
is never going to end it's going to keep
on going and going and going and a human
brain has a hard time to decipher that
and process that because we need to see
an end for everything like otherwise we
can't process it this is going to be
what's going to keep on go I'm not sure
that's forever it's never going to stop
every there's no stopping but it goes on
and on and on and on it's that's pretty
wild if you think about it yeah I guess
whoever whoever think we're going to
have plenty of time created that version
whatever we want whoever we want you
know we'll have plenty of time I've
gotten myself out of answering a
question right
away did you say we thr it around he
distracted us he's a master of you're a
professional you're a professional a
real professional so so the answer who
who who I would like to sit down you
know you know it it I think I believe
it's with anyone else it's it depends
when you know there are certain times I
would like to meet this guy that guy the
other guy you know right now who's on
your mind uh no one actually no
one all right let meet somebody right
now I can't right now we're giving you
the choice think for a second who would
you want to meet who's the one person if
you picked someone who would that be
who's the the one Donald Trump who would
you want to meet right now honestly yeah
only honestly the person that I would
like to meet today if I had the choice
is a um last night someone came over to
me I was in parking lot knocked on the
window and people know I'm I'm I'm very
very very involved in about the
Holocaust I read hundreds of books
traveled 4050 concentration camps I've
interviewed Holocaust survivors on
camera um know about every camp camp and
most of the camps and you
know I almost met a Nazi who worked in
awit I almost met him and in the end he
pulled out and he's no longer alive
really yes you know that would have been
fascinating it would have been
fascinating but he he wasn't part of the
killing machine but he worked in the
administration seen it firsthand he uh
he seen the actual gassing I'm not so
sure but regardless so you didn't meet
him let's move on the kid the kid the
kid there's a guy a guy knocked on the
on my window and he says he started
asking he says look my grandmother uh
was an aitz and she and she was um she
was always told us that there was an
uprising in aitz and the inmates blew up
actually blew up one of the gas Chambers
and she saw it she was in the she was uh
in the Kennedy La um camp in the as was
sub camps where I'm going to go into all
of that and he says I always wondered if
she was just you know imagining stuff
dreaming I never heard there was an
uprising and the juice blew up the I
said yes that's actually true and uh and
it happened it's a whole story about it
it's a very fascinating Story one n he
got killed they actually shoved him into
the oven um so I asked him is she alive
he says no she passed away like 3 four
years ago and I was
like I wish she would have been alive
because I wanted to interview someone
who actually saw and knew about it knew
because she was she was in the Kennedy
log and they told her when it's going to
happen they had to kind of coordinate
the whole thing and I was thinking to
myself gosh if she would have been alive
so today it would have been that lady
Mrs Greenfield whoever she is may may
she rest in peace was that her actual
name yeah hi maybe we're related oh
she's a she her her her her grand
grandchild is a guy and he goes even
with Zak okay okay we still might be
related specific by the way of a person
that you would want to meet but I can
see why and I can see your passion about
this topic in this conversation no but
but I I truly believe that like these
kinds of things they change over time
with everyone just for just for like who
would you want who would you who would
you want to meet today this this guy by
the way I mean he's the real deal see
how he turns the question on you no no
just to prove my point though that it's
I'm embarrassed to tell you who I would
want to meet because after what you just
said I can follow that because the
person I want to meet like you know I
was G to say Michael Jordan something
like that you know and uh I guarantee
you in 10 years from I guarantee you 10
years from now it's not gonna be Michael
Jordan probably not it would be Babe
Ruth if I really think about it probably
not Michael Jordan I probably pick
someone else but um I have to tell you
just on your point there are very few
people that are left in general that
were alive during the times of the we're
coming towards the tail end of anybody
that's really left once we lose the last
few people we're just going to have the
memories to go by we're not going to
have that firsthand experience people
and that might change things because you
know there's a lot of people that deny
the Holocaust as is you know and it's
only going to get worse over time we get
more desensitized to it as we get more
removed from that story after a 100
Years it'll be a century old I mean I I
I'm very scared very nervous that it
might lose its you know I well that's
that's that's
unfortunately the the life cycle yeah
and then what can we do about it you got
to preserve it how do we preserve it I
think the Holocaust is the most
preserved uh occurrence in history right
um M between between museums
testimonials books videos and everything
right uh I go and speak to kids and to
adults uh I do a slide presentation
about the Holocaust really I'm going to
do one uh tishu at night in the Shiner
Sho oh wow um so the last thing I always
tell thank God for Tish abov by the way
or no one would know about the Holocaust
I feel like every Tish abov all we do is
watch movies about the Holocaust but no
it's it's it's good I'm just I'm I'm
poking at it because I believe that the
Holocaust is a topic that needs to be
discussed much more than just do you
watch movies may ask see you have to
okay so you watched Oscar's uh scher's
list oh yeah of course so you've seen
the movie have seen the movies that's
you I'm talking about you know you
there's there's a lot lot of information
a lot of educational stuff in in in in
this yeah osar you know but but but that
was a very popular movie obviously but
uh it was an American classic it was a
there's so many others about the
Holocaust which is uh which is important
uh and and and you know like I said it's
the most doc so I go and I speak to uh
to uh to students to kids to adults and
I always finish off with this and some
of them are only 17 18 years old that
you should go and try to find that one
Survivor and just listen for their
experience because there was going to
come a time where you're going to have
to say I've heard it myself uh I've
taking all my kids to a Survivor and
even I try to get a Survivor that has
their number tattoo that
many around so they could say I saw it
myself and I've hearden uh so that's
extremely important the one message uh
that people can take from this podcast
if you haven't yet met a holocaust
Survivor just go and do it go talk to
them go listen ask them about their
experience because you will one day
become the person that is going to have
to bear
witness to their experience so so you'll
be able to say I've heard of myself and
there will come a time where people are
going to say there not too many people
around who have heard it right firsthand
it happens to be the my my kids school
every single year they have a program
it's called names not numbers and it's
done by the 8th grade and they do all
the production they have bring a
production crew in they're bringing
people teach them how to interview and
everything like that and they bring in
Holocaust Survivors and the kids
interview these people and they they
prod a video every single year what a
great idea it's an amazing program I've
heard about it before thank you yes
absolutely which school is this that
does this is n sure a that's beautiful I
think every school needs to adopt
something that has to do with witnessing
or like you said hearing it from from
you know our entire religion is based on
the most Witnesses ever this is what it
is our entire basis the foundation of of
who we are is that we had millions of
people that witnessed something together
that's what sets us apart from all other
religions in the world they passed it
down to so it's a re it should be a
requirement for schools to have this
pass on I love what you're saying you
know step Spielberg did so many uh
documentaries on people my grandparents
as well and I remember when he did it
and hearing that testimony from my
grandparents was was something that will
never I'll never forget it shaped who I
am today in terms of that I've done uh I
would say between 60 to 80 um videos
myself videos interviews would you like
to come with me today to to a assisted
living facility here where my Rabbi
Rabbi Burger's mother who's almost 100
years old she's not only a Survivor she
has 100% recollection of everything that
happened was she in a concentration camp
yes and she speaks about it she was in
Bur um B I think she was in berken now
you know she has a tattoo she has a
tattoo then if she was in Burk yeah and
I'll tell you what's interesting just
real quick is because he's a Cohen so he
can't come to uh he could my my Rabbi
Rabbi burger and he couldn't come to the
uh concentration camps himself and so I
was sitting with him on the phone and
when I have to tell you when I took the
tour there I put on uh noise cancelling
headphones by the way guys I recommend
this to anybody that does this I put on
the noise cancelling headphones and I
listened to somber Jewish music and I
walked around by myself for a half an
hour and I just wandered and the reason
why I did that is because the
authenticity is not really there anymore
it's more like a museum like there's a
glass wall and you see the
shoes and but when I sat down I sat down
at the steps of one of the bunkers
behind me and I had a visual of the Wall
of Death and it was a very moving time
for me in my life and I was sitting
there on the steps and I called my Rabbi
and I said hey Rabbi I know your mother
was a Survivor I just want you to know I
know you're a Cohan and you you don't
you've never come here I want you to
know I'm sitting here at the steps and I
have have a vision and I'm looking at
this wall and I just you know I needed
to talk to you I needed to talk to a
friend the rabbi he goes well if you
want you could look around for Bunker
number and I forgot the number you told
me I think was 32 that's where my mother
spent her time during the concentration
camps I turn around and I am sitting on
the steps of Bunker number 32 wow I
couldn't I started to cry I told my
Rabbi I'm like I can't believe this I'm
sitting here at the steps of your
mother's place where she had and I'm
looking at it I have my headphones on
and I was listening to music and I have
to tell you that's my advice for anyone
that goes listen to some music and get
into your Zone you know some people say
go when it's cold or when it's raining
so you can feel that Vibe and I don't
say it's wrong to do that but it's very
very difficult but that's what I went
through and I invite you to come and
let's go have a conversation with her
because I'd love for you to ask the
questions and for you to do the
interview was she was was she ever
interviewed she was interviewed and and
um she talks about it and I'm going to
go with you yeah but I I we got to do it
on camera if it's about two-hour
interview if I do it's a two-hour
interview really yes I do a half hour
half hour pre the Holocaust talk about
her parents the town
the are you in in an hour I'm in yeah
I'll take your right hand but but not
today though we got to no we got to do
it no but I want I do want I do want to
say good but first of all guys she's
100 you know the joke when a guy you
know the joke when a guy when a guy
turned 120 you know the joke when the
guy said to him you know have a great
day you know like you know but I'm
saying we have to go say a chabas to her
at least can we do that oh absolutely
let's go meet her but I would like to
set up because I'm doing that all the
time I would like to set up a time but
it's got to be a it should be a two-hour
win I'm dedicating I'm on behalf of
prime source and the noneof your
business podcast I'm dedicating our team
Stefan you're in and we will go with our
production team and we will record it
and I think it will be amazing for
people to see it especially coming from
you because you have experience she
speaks ask me the questions English
English she still makes potato latkas
for her son Benny where's she from she's
from uh right now she's from C she was
from California way she from back home
you'll find out let's not give it all
away you we we'll do the interview wow
and I love it but let me say something
else I'll tell you a little bit about my
first experience I went to aits I
started going to
asz maybe 20 25 years ago when no one
basically went there it was literally it
wasn't really a museum you could just
walk in there wow and no one was there
now it's a museum now you got to get a
ticket months ahead otherwise you can't
get in it's it's like millions of people
a year they made it into a business and
like you said it's very commercialized
people fly in from Israel as tour guides
to give tours by you got to be like I
used to give tours in aitz I I did
Private Tours and in other camps my
donik and yeah so the first time I went
to aitz I didn't tell my grandparent who
by the way both of them are still I I
both of them are still alive my
grandmother my grandfather my mother's
parents and um one of them went through
alwiz ended up in mat house and then
abeny and then one of them one of my
grandparents my my grandmother she was
on the way to our streets but there was
during the negotiations of kasner and
she came back and they pulled back the
Tren so she never ended up in owitz and
that's how she got she survived a long
story she went on dead marches so I
didn't tell them that I that I'm going
to ales because I knew that they're
still traumatized about it and they
didn't want me to go back it's like a
dangerous place and this goes back like
25 years
ago but when I ended up in and by the
way when I go to aitz I walk around with
my
Talis that's how I walk around really
yeah I've been I could spend there all
day long but with my Talis wow I put my
Talis on I don't know you saw the
Israeli people from is they walk around
with flag sure I walk around my flag
interesting I walk around with my flag
that's the Talis I like it and and and
in years years back I used to have
people come up to me and have come
because it's strange I I walk around
with a Talis so you you know you have I
had the Talis so that's my headphone
that's my that's my I'll add the Talis
you add the headphones no no but I'm
saying you say you got to have a the
noise yes yes the noise cancellation
your Talis is your noise cancelling I
love that by the way absolutely love I
walk around my Talis and and um some
there and it's like very empty and I
call my grandfather I say I say Z you
know where I am no where are you I said
I'm an asit where you're an aitz you
know it's like a dangerous place I said
no Z I'm here I'm an outs don't worry
it's okay and you know nowadays they
even have like hotels in the in the area
back then they didn't even had the TS I
stayed like in a in a house or someplace
like a school so I'm there and I was
then all of a sudden he says tell them
that yis led tell them that yis is alive
so I say Y is alive he says louder so I
say y he says louder so I'm there now
with myw go screaming of the top of my
lung
y every time I go back to AIT I have to
scream like one time
wow amazing that's really amazing so you
know the biggest uh like retribution is
you take any of the Nazis uh into Monroe
into kirel and show them what's going on
over there to see how we're thriving and
to see you know I always said the Jewish
Nation if you think about it's post 80
years now and how we've picked ourselves
up and how not only have we rebounded
but we're actually excelling as a nation
oh yeah almost more than anybody else in
the world that can say something like
this there are other nationalities that
you know till today are struggling and
they complain and yeah they've had
hardships in the past as well but they
haven't yet gotten their act together we
as a nation we should be very very proud
I mean we're excelling we're we're very
far Advanced and from where a short
period of time ago 80 years ago
decimated I want to say yeah half of
Judaism a huge number was wiped out
wiped out I mean most people would never
recover for such a thing not only did
they recover but you go to Israel and
you see what's happening over there you
see we've built in a short period of
time uh it's fascinating it's a very
it's a testament people but just to put
it into perspective we haven't yet
replenished the six month wow just to
put it into important we are not yet to
the point where we were preor War II as
far as the amount of juice wow so you're
say in 80 years 80 plus years we haven't
yet we have less Jews now than we had PR
yet the Six Million that we lost we we
are not up I think I saw a study maybe
like we're up to five million wow we're
we're definitely trying I mean the
average amount of uh non-jewish children
that are born into a family I think it's
two or less I think you're talking about
Monroe and it's very impressive I mean
your knowledge that you have in politics
and in the world you know culture this
is fascinating a lot of information in
your head over there in other words we
started we didn't know if you're going
to vote for me now you tell me you're
going to vote for me I'm I'm V it I'm a
v in I might vote twice for you by the
way is that legal can I do that can I
vote twice I we we should cut that out
can I you should do it but cut it out of
the
interview all right very good you know
I'm curious getting back into politics
you know I talk about this because it's
just interesting to me that we're you're
a Democrat uh I'm a registered Democrat
I like how you said you're a registered
Democrat yeah register but your your
your views your followings your how how
do you how do you look at it how should
we that's what I want matters ferally to
be a Democrat I would well that's what
I'm asking I'm curious how you you know
figured it out as a registered Democrat
with all the views that they have how do
you balance that I would say that I'm
more like a Kennedy type of democrat you
know a moderate more like a a middle of
the road moderate Democrat but aside of
me and aside of the national um you know
uh politics of it in the state of New
York we talked about a New York State
Assembly talked by the New York State
Senate and then the
governor 2/3 of the New York State
assemblies are Democrats 23s that's a
veto proov assembly 2third of the Senate
are Democrats the governor is a Democrat
the Republicans in the state of New York
can't get anything done anything your
local elected state representative can't
get anything done I remember the time
I'm not going to say names
uh a Republican state official called me
a County elected official to try to help
him with something in the state because
he was a republican he couldn't get it
done I as a Democrat have had
more influence and and relationships to
the powers that be in Albany to make
things happen so in the state of New
York so no matter what your views are it
or love it super annoying love it or
hate it super annoying you have to be a
register Democrat said like it or love
it yeah you said love it I hate
it you got to pay attention was it was
there ever a time where it was a little
bit more even or was it always dominated
by by democrats you know they good
apples and the better apples yeah yeah I
understand you don't you like to look at
it in a positive way and never invite
negativity I love that oh yeah have to
I'm going to adapt that by the way I
like that I like to say it again it's
they're good apples and better apples
and there are better apples exactly bad
apples right there's no bad apples it's
not love it or hate it right love it or
like it love it or like it I'm I'm going
to adapt that I like that a lot and um I
don't I don't hate it by the way by the
way it's trademarked so oh it's
trademarked okay you know you know going
back to politics we had one more
question that we had that I I want to
almost finish with it's only one
question yeah that yeah none of your
business yes it used very smart very you
are smart he saved it for yes he knew he
knew he knew he didn't just give it that
right away very good go ahead
ask I want to know in your phone who's
the highest appointed contact you
have I I don't want to say on on the air
I really don't want to say on the air
because you know it's it's a very high
elected official yeah it's a very high
elected official have you ever had to
use it cell phone uh no are you are you
allowed to use it if you need it oh yeah
I got it you got it you see him he's a
guy that preserves and saves Hees right
he waits for the right opportunity he's
not going to waste it I got it but it's
a very very high elected official how
did you know still an office well still
an office yes yeah so um you know you
know how a lot personal cell phone a lot
of my friends like to say you know we're
all us Jews are two calls away from
Donald Trump you know because everyone
always likes to say they know someone in
the family a brother a sister an uncle I
don't think that means much because you
could be two calls away but you have to
actually know the person intimately you
have to have ex Leverage
leverage now that they ask me I'm I'm
probably two calls away from Trump but
it doesn't say much I'll tell you why
because I know people who know his
son-in-law Kushner right and I'm sure a
lot of people know people who know Kush
sure sure and I and I probably
know two people who can pick up a phone
call to to to Jared Kushner yeah they
would say two away it's not amazing it's
not getting very far but it's good it's
good it's better than most what what's
you know I'm curious it doesn't say much
you know listen you know what you
accomplish is important two calls away
from Michael Greenfield might be
something I mean you know what what are
some of your proud accomplishments that
you've done over the years oh tremendous
amount I I would say one of the things
that I did actually was probably the
first thing I did as a county legislator
yeah which goes back yeah over 12 years
right it it was a flood mitigation
project
uh it was a project that cost the county
between 12 and $17 million I don't
remember what was the end cost maybe
even $20 million a big project um and it
took out hundreds of houses from the
flood zone literally people was one
person who got killed as a result of a
of of of of the flooding in the area
with a was a they got killed by
lightning you in in Spring Valley from
person uh she got killed because there
were floods and then one of the P power
lines went down and she got
electrocuted um and we resolved that
issue I resolved that issue and the
reason I say one probably I've probably
done hundreds of stuff little private
for individuals I had a case last week
that I I don't want to say on a I got to
resolved for them it means the world um
you know and and the person even left me
a voice note last night out of the blue
thanking me by the way it's a thank leg
job only 1% people call you back and
they say thank you so if you can't do
the job without getting uh the thank
yous you shouldn't get well on behalf of
our thousands of listeners I want to say
thank you you're welcome yes TR thank
you yes but but I would is a thank l so
theas time you're in public service you
get all the hate and you get zero credit
yeah it's some sometimes all the time
but I will say this that project was a
project that I had to deal with a
federal agency okay a state agency
we had to deal with uh the uh Army Core
of Engineers the
dec and we had to deal with the County
Drainage agency we had to deal with the
town and the village five municipalities
oh my goodness that project has been
going on for years course it is
promising people that they're going to
do something about it every elected
official in Rockland County for years
ran on that platform I remember the
county executive vanderhof
uh was one of the stomping grounds was
in Spring Valley in that area that he's
going to resolve the flooding in the
area and so on and so forth but it was
so difficult the Army core of engineer
wanted one thing the DC wanted another
thing the draining agen had a different
idea to get it them all I remember we
had one meeting in Westchester I
remember I what I did was it's
interesting you know we could talk it
talk no no no say it I want to hear so
what we did was what I did was one of
the things I wanted to prove for the dec
in the elmy cor of engineer is that the
flooding in the area ended up in a
stream that ended up in a Reservoir in
New Jersey that went for drinking water
so one time in the flooding I went I
took like a five gallon water bot right
uh and I filled it up with water and
obviously the water was terrible because
it was from the road it was sewage
backup it was and all this water ended
up back in the Stream and kind of ended
up in that Reservoir in the Jersey so I
brought that that that bottle of of five
gallon water I put it on the table and
they were like it was yeah know 30 and
and they were like what is this I
said that's for people to drink that's
the drinking water and that brought
along and they looked at me like hell is
wrong with this guy and uh I said you
know what this is the water that ends up
going back into the stream in the
reservoir that's being used for it and
it's not healthy you could go and test
it I think that was the pitch and I
think that's kind of clinch to get them
on board because very creative of you it
it was very difficult bottom line is had
they had to redo it all over again in
other words do a project that you have
to have a federal agency a state agency
that meeting was in Westchester because
it wasn't even in Rockland and then
because there were located I remember
with the state agency they had their
office there so we made it the meeting
was scheduled there and then the County
and the town and the
village I was so naive at that time that
I thought I could accomplish it that I
actually tried nowadays I don't think I
I would try and it was so we had to get
like uh 30 40 easements from people to
allow uh the county to do work and
convince them to sign away some of the
rights of the property wow uh and and
had all people in there talking about
people you know people are upset with
you we had meeting in the room because
everyone had a different idea how how to
resolve the issue right all of a sudden
uh everyone was an engineer everyone was
an architect everyone knew about the the
science of of of of floodings and we had
I remember was one of these house
meetings in people went away neighbors
all upset because everyone had a
different idea in the end we had to
choose one if we're going to put the
it's a whole different thing how we got
it done in the end we got it done we got
it done and people were like
you see it's not going to work you know
you should have done it my way in the
end it worked and to this day one of my
strongest supporters are people in that
area right those are the people how
could they not be who sign who signed my
petitions and those are the people and
they couldn't some of them you know
wanted to sell their houses and they
couldn't well because people knew there
this is how you get fans this is what
you got to do you got to politics
doesn't pay well right we oh right it's
public knowledge is there a salary for
the job for the assemblyman job oh yeah
but do you get an increase what do you
mean fig I'm saying you're moving up
getting increase one salary the problem
that you have is the only way you get an
increase is if you vote for it yourself
right that never looks good and no
politician wants to do that so what
happens is but politicians do it all the
time well they vote for for the
committee for their for their whole team
to get for your own bonus yeah they do
it all the time well they did
recently well the mayor put up a vote
for increase for the trustees and for
the for the mayor it's it's it's very
it's very very difficult when I went
when I got on the legislature you know
it's very difficult to get people to to
to vote for it because they're afraid
that their opponent is going to use it
against them so all of a sudden the
staff we try to take care of the staff
it's only fear they get a decent amount
so the staff they get increases over the
years and all of a sudden
honestly if you go to Albany it used to
be a time the staff used to get paid
more than the elected official right wow
okay so uh and and and that's how a lot
of these politicians get into trouble
well maybe they get a drug they need the
money maybe they should pay them in
advance a decent salary so they don't
have to even think about this do you
have any side
hustles what what is the side hustle
bringing income other than other than
you know I I don't have a Car Wash
sh oh by the way that went viral I know
yesterday I was at an event and then
people were like did you see the kid
with a who drives there his his Spanish
worker yeah yeah and then but they said
but he just got hired that day yeah
everyone knew what's Happ he was a new
employee he has more than this kid has
been doing this car wash business for a
few years now 13 years old and he has
sucessful car older brother works for
him sometimes as well so you don't have
a car wash no I don't have a car wash
what was the biggest
that you got from from any of your
campaigns that you've ran oh there's a
Max there was a Max how much is the max
the max for the New York State Assembly
is per race in other words for the
primary the max would have been $3,000
okay and now for the general it's $3,000
that's it uh yes and i' and I've I've
gotten but there's but there's brothers
sisters uncles aunts children but got
like well yeah I've gotten from a
husband and a wife 3,000 each so that's
6,000 right right so that's that's the
biggest amount um you know I probably
would have been able to get more uh
people appreciate the work that that I
do people appreciate the fact that you
get the right person into into office
and the only way to get you know you
know you know what I think the biggest
industry in the United States is is the
election process how much money did uh
vice president Harris uh raise in the
last C 8 something million you know
crazy amount of num 48 Hours ridiculous
why why do you think people pay off all
this because it's a good investment
influence it's a good investment to
elect the most powerful people in the
world to elect the right people in
office yeah because they want to come on
the none of your business podcast and
say which cell phone number they have of
the highest level so I want to make a
prediction here okay I want to make a
prediction today I think there was a
real chance here I would put I would
wager some money on this yeah I would
have to get some odds how about $3,000
3,000
Ma I would wait for some money that
Aaron is going to make it to one day I
really don't see why not I really I
really think you have the tools I think
you have the skill set you have the
presence and I think you can get the
support I think you can get there you're
the second person to tell me that only
the second I don't believe that my
grandmother said it
was I have good company I see I really
believe that Aaron I mean you know
doesn't have to be tomorrow it doesn't
have to be next year but I mean you're
on a very nice path you know and uh you
you certainly have the passion for it I
think you have the makeup for it um I'm
a fan I think you I appreciate that I'm
curious all all the work that you do
you're a family man right I mean how how
do you disconnect what do you have rules
on how to help people and be a family
person at the same time great question
um I'm forced to
disconnect every sh okay only Shas not
during the week
unfortunately um and and and that's the
only down part of it that it's it's it's
not easy to disconnect to go on vacation
very rarely go on vacations when I go on
vacation I disconnect but 2 weeks ago I
got a phone call 2:00 in the
morning your phone is on at night yes so
I got a phone on ringer yeah you keep
the ringer on yeah my wife doesn't
doesn't doesn't appreciate that but but
I try to keep it low so I got a phone
call I sometimes get an emergency phone
call so I got a phone call 2 o'clock in
the morning I'm just saying it was just
two weeks ago I pick up the phone and I
and I was like what happened and he was
Oh I thought this this is your office
number I think he knew was my number and
I said okay so what was the issue he had
a problem and he just kept him up at
night he couldn't sleep about it I need
to talk about I need to talk to someone
about it I think that's what it was uh
is he the most stable person obviously
not but uh it's a it's a 24-hour
business people I go to Sho and people
start talking about the problems they
have you go shopping people talk about
do you ever think about I don't want to
go into the Supermarket or into this Sho
because you know too many people are
going to bother me I'd rather you know
pray here or shop here or never but and
and and it happens all the time right if
if if you get elected you have to
understand and really I'm not going to
say that you have to accept it it comes
ter yeah it's not just you it's your
family that has to accept it
well is your wife supportive of a you
political career very very much though
and and um she would go shopping people
wouldn't know because she obviously
she's she tries to keep it private but
then if she would say her name people
say are you related to Aaron weer
because it's not such a common name it's
not like Greenfield you know but but uh
so so she would she are you related to
Aaron weed she yeah that's my husband so
a lot of time people would say oh he
helped me he I know so many he helped uh
and that makes her feel good you know
wonderful so so so
um it's it's something that maybe I
should work more on how to disconnect
during the week but shabas off limits
even if and sure people come and talk to
me I would listen and I would say call
me back on Monday or this the other I'm
not even GNA yeah I can't take notes I
can't you know tell them how to resolve
I think it's disrespectful in a sh for
anybody to talk to another person on
shabas about their business and you know
the biggest example is a lot of times
there are people in the sh that you know
um are in a position that they can give
business to other people in the sh and
they use that opportunity to throw in
their you know the little sales pitch in
like you know kiddish whenever it is are
walking you know next to each other hey
let me walk you home you know I think
it's very inappropriate this Hot Topic
it happens all the time and I can
appreciate I can appreciate what you're
saying is I'm shabas I understand I'm a
politician and I I get it I have an
office for a reason 9 to5 job call me
Monday through Friday people sometimes
don't have the social cues and the
etiquette to leave you alone I kind of
agree with you but I kind of disagree
with you because and that's the reason
why people feel that they um that they
they have all the rights to approach me
at any given time all time every day
seven days a week because they don't
think of their problem as a business
related issue they think of it as a
problem someone has a problem with u not
the go with either with court system
with with the sheriff with the health
department with well you're saying
essentially what he's saying is that you
know it's okay to have a rule not to
talk business on shabas the challenge is
that most people they connect politics
in their personal lives as not business
and they're saying I need your influence
I need your help I have a challenge
they're not looking at it that way they
would go talk to the RO for me it's
business but they would go talk to the
rough with a problem they have during sh
right you know I disagree I don't I
don't let don't like it no no
you're I don't care if it's make it any
I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you I'm
trying to be a m you understand which is
I going to explain what that is that the
person who comes and talks to meas he
doesn't think of it as if he's talking
to me about a business well maybe we
need to teach people that because going
to Sho is not a trade show going to Sho
is not a conference and going to Sho is
not Congress and it's not the political
office if you have something to say that
you need help with call me Saturday
night call me Sunday I'm with ushi on
this I love that your meeting your
meeting that day is with God that's your
meeting yes yes yes and by the way my
Mee oh I could refer him to God you say
I don't know Aaron I want to tell you
something if you asked me to hold up a
sign to campaign for you my sign would
say please do not talk to Aaron Politics
on chabas that's what I would hold a
sign I I'm not talking about politics or
per don't ask him for a personal favor
on sh listen you know the rabbis used to
it because that's world and quite
frankly I have to be honest with you I
have a pet peeve and when it comes to
shoes and and and this is for for all of
our non-jewish listeners you know the
the weekend when we go to synagogue and
we're there and we're all congregating
together and at the end of prayer it's a
very common theme amongst all of us is
that you go to the rabbi and you shake
his hand and you wish him a good shabas
and you wish him you know you say hello
to him him well you wish him well yes
and a line generally forms of people
that are waiting to say to wish him well
right and have these C people who have
I'm sorry Thea to start talking to the
rabbi about their personal issue while
everybody's waiting behind them I stand
there and I push people along and I tell
them and I and I act I actually make the
announcements in my Sho and one of the
things that I reiterate get you to come
to our Sho one of the things that I
reiterate and I want you to know and I
want you to adapt this please I
reiterate is don't rush home give us
five minutes after everybody says
they're hell and they're and they're
being nice to each other you want to
stick around afterwards and and shmoo
for 5 minutes that's okay but stop
disrupting the flow of people it's very
very selfish Aaron I think you need to
adapt this and tell people please call
me after shops even if it's a personal
favor you need that time off oh no I I I
tell this I said call me call me during
the week and I'll try to take care but
uh don't even let them get their point
out don't don't even start yeah don't
let start they talk to you about
something after sh Shas please the Shas
yeah exactly you need a mental break
you're in the business of helping people
that is your business but I'm in the
business of getting their
vote wow wow you see that's a good that
that's a good debate that's a good
debate no I'm going to hear what they
say and afterwards I say okay I think I
can help you but call me after he's
always on I see so you're I was about to
say you're always I disconnect yeah but
you're listening to them though you're
still allowing them only when I'm sure
sure sure then I I I I I the the meal
right yeah you go home home you go to
the Tish I go Tosh every Shas night
beautiful it really I'm the where in the
SCH in for
the right for the Tish I'm the wow the
the things you do for vote no I'm Jing
how many people go to that Tish oh it
depends in the summer and the winter
yeah he could have anywhere between 100
to 200 people there okay wow that's not
bad not bad I was you know once you get
a thousand or more but it's that's like
a big number anyone who knows a scenti
his father you know he's known in the is
it the singing is it the it's everything
The Ripping of the kala and the throwing
of the Gil the fish or it's it's it's I
haven't been to it I love years and
years I used to go when I was younger I
used to go to Tish Friday night but I I
haven't gone I mean anyone that goes to
Israel and must visit it that's where I
went last I was in Israel
I think gidan is about 10% of the
experience I have at a wow wow Heaven
you think heaven heaven is about 10% of
what that's very subjective everybody
has what you know they they consider to
be you know heaven for them completely
detx refresh regroup rinse on shabas
it's amazing it's the biggest Matana I
get when I see a very very involved
politician and there are many not only
Aaron weer and the non-jewish I
literally have pity that they don't have
shabas yeah we talk about this all the
time on the podcast all the time is that
the non Jews that don't have shabas it's
very hard for them to it's impossible to
do it they it's like take for example if
you were to take Wednesday to be your
showers right you can't make it happen
right you just can't right you can't act
it out it's not the same it's e have
it's like a Matana that hasem gave you
yeah it's a gift it's defin
what's your next big agenda what's your
big goal get elected to get what what
are you what's your issues that you kind
of running on two issues that I'm going
to focus laser laser focus speak into
the camera and tell them let's talk to
the people what is the issue talk to us
that we fighting for and what you're two
issues one is the most important one now
in the community not just in Rockland
County but Statewide is the issue with
the what it's commonly known the the
equivalency issue in other words there
are bureaucrats in Albany who
decided how you are going to educate
your children they know better than you
and I'm telling them that no you know
better than them and we're going to take
care of that that's issue number one and
the second issue is the formula change
for the East Rambo School District we
are being short changed you are being
short changed you are paying much more
in property taxes than you should the
state is sore changing us and we're
going to accomplish that we're going to
change the formula and we're going to
get our fish year wow that's my promise
not that I'll get it done but I'll do
everything and anything to try to get it
done just not on that changed my mind
you're not going to you're not going to
Congress you're going to the
Senate Let's do let's go big let's think
big why are we setting bars over here at
the you know not going to go vice
president you know president yet let's
go to the C let's get him let see doing
what it 100 people let's make one of
them L weer start the first
fundraiser let's get the money let's get
the money rolling in you get the F first
fundraiser if ALC could get into office
and some of these people like seriously
Congress you know if they can get into
office like this I mean anybody can do
it right a monkey could technically do
it you know so yeah yeah I'm saying that
I'm sorry you know like you look at some
of these people some of these
politicians and they just got a bunch of
like-minded people together and they got
the votes you know and they got into
office I think Aaron weeder can be based
on that barometer could be the
president okay Michael I think you could
be the president B based on that
barometer thank you I'm not sure if
that's a compliment or an insult no it's
an insult to a that's that oh okay all
right I I appreciate that Aaron it was a
pleasure having you here I don't know if
I have the age to become president oh he
said you have to be old now behind it's
the going rates that's that's what it
looks like um you know I I I find it
fascinating though and and kind of
interesting that people forget to do
their job because they have another job
to do which is you're in politics you're
fighting for policy you're fighting to
make change you're listening to all the
challenges and there's work that you
need to do but then suddenly you need to
pause your entire life to fundraise and
to get votes and suddenly the business
of helping people is transformed exactly
and takes a back seat you see it every
day in politics it's a very interesting
balance how does that work he's right I
was wonder if the president they're
running for president are you actually
working and he takes off the next four
or five months right traveling all
around the country yeah one second do
you not have the most important job in
the world that's probably the most
demanding job you could just take off
for four months to off fundraise like
who's running the country in the
meantime it's crazy it's very very
difficult and the most challenging part
of an elected office is the fundraiser
very very difficult and you would find
that a lot of these you think oh how did
that person get into office you read up
on that person and then you see that
person was very good at
fundraising it's sad by the way in a way
because you know you find some of the
most grandest rabbis that were running
major major schools and they had to
pause their life to fundraise to travel
and fundraise and I guess there is there
really is no answer the answer is that
it's part of life it's what you have to
do you have to balance it money makes
the world go and this is why I keep
saying to everyone sales networking
communicating is key to everything yep
whether it's politics whether you're a
lawyer or doctor it's Universal single
thing of the world has a sales aspect to
it you have to at some point solicit
something at some point you have to
convince someone of your thought process
it's a sales game it's always a sales
game and then you got to Market it now
you got to spread the word you got to
get it out to the masses you got to
educate people right you got to talk to
people you got to market sales and
marketing and Michael you always say
this and it's it's it holds true
wherever you turn I don't care what
business you're in I I don't care what
it is that you're doing in your life
sales and marketing from Sports to
business to Media sales and marketing
yeah the overall is networking
communication and you do a stellar job
at it all I have to tell I love how you
just transformed so how he like soon as
looking into the cam and he's like in
his acting mode right away and you were
felt like you were really talking to
people I felt like I felt what you were
saying and you you immediately changed
what a transition by the way kudos to
you that's that's why a good politician
can fund raise Monday at 9:00 a.m.
change policy Monday at 10: p.m. at 10:
a.m. yeah you have to yeah yeah it's
unbelievable Aaron thank you so much for
being here it was a real pleasure and an
honor and uh I had a great time I had
fun and I I I liked what we learned and
I I'm looking forward to more we say
it's going to be for an
hour Aaron this was amazing and um
before we end I must say that there's uh
I've learned a lot and I'm excited but I
also learning about the people that you
know and uh you know some of them that
you weren't sharing with us but what we'
like to ask the none of your business
podcast is for you to recommend someone
that you think would be a good guest on
our podcast someone who can also bring
information and growth and positivity
someone that we can learn from someone
that is uh close to you that you can
recommend to be on our podcast who would
that
be uh I would recommend a good friend of
mine a colleague uh County
legislator Ider tummy Jager no I know
tmy oh I know tummy well sure okay great
guy I you know a little little known uh
secret about tummy is I bought a
motorcycle from him and I would love to
get him on the podcast that you have
yeah one of them one of them I have two
and I would love for him uh to talk
about all his you know um hobbies that
he has that would be interesting you
know what let's get him on the phone hi
I'm with uh uh someone you sold a
[Laughter]
motorcycle hi tmy
Hi how are it's Michael Greenfield we're
actually on the podcast Now with uh
Aaron weer and we asked him who would he
recommend to come on the podcast and
guess what name he
dropped but but why don't you tell me
the tell him the great things that
talked about him oh he'll come on he'll
hear he'll hear it when we uh stream it
so I re I highly recommended you I voted
for you to come on the podcast
and I'll tell you what I I tell
everybody else I got a th000 votes in
the last election but if everybody who
told vs for me I got
2000 well well so don't say that you'll
come on the podcast come on the
podcast when are we doing this
win yes all right fantastic I
just legisl on the legisl so I'm just
just by the time you come he'll be an
assembly so it'll be a whole different
story looking forward that was easy that
was very easy we get him through to a
second person on the road over here yeah
take take out that cell phone of yours
who's that
person just flash us just flashes for a
minute just so we can see I know that
politicians oi are well spoken but to
have aish person from the community so
well spoken like Aaron weer it was
breathtaking I didn't see it coming I
did not see it coming I got hit like a
freight train with him because I had a
little bit of somewhat lower
expectations and this is just because
he's a Democrat no no no no he's a local
Democrat there's a difference which
we've learned um but just simply because
the way he carries himself the way he
looks yes you know judging a book by its
cover for a moment and without really
getting to know him I I was very
pleasantly surprised as we were speaking
to him that this guy's actually someone
that not only accomplished a lot but had
a lot of challenges right it wasn't easy
for him because langu English was not
his first language right it wasn't his
first language and he is in a position
where he needs to speak to large crowds
knock on doors he needs to knock on
doors and he needs to be able to you
know influence people with his words
yeah which is a very difficult thing to
do and it's not your first language and
he he does it very well and he's very
knowledgeable he actually really cares
you can tell that you know a big part of
why he's doing this is because he wants
to make a difference and he wants to
enhance people's lives and if there
would be more politicians like him the
world would be a better place I don't
know how many politicians are in it for
the right reasons a lot of them are in
it simply for the power and for the fame
and he's really in it because he cares
about the community and you could tell
just by the work that he does on the
side where he interviews Holocaust
Survivors that tells me a lot that tells
me that he really is in it to make a
difference and I look forward to what's
going to become of him and how our
community is going to grow with him yeah
one of the things he said was that he
one of the dreams that he has is in his
lifetime he would love to see a
religious Jew in Congress as a
congressman and I told him I said why
don't why don't you go for it why don't
you be that guy don't rely on someone
else you know filling that vacancy you
can absolutely be that person I believe
that I think that on based on the
trajectory that he's already on and the
things that he's already accomplished
and where he's going he he's thinking
about being in the in the Senate of the
state of New York which is a pretty big
deal um it's only the next natural move
I think I really hope that he took it
seriously and he's going to he's going
to go for it I'm sure he can Garner the
support from people I'm sure the people
will will prop him up he needs to do it
someone needs to do it and why not him
and definitely with someone like him
it'll speak volumes to our community and
it'll make us uh it'll put us out in a
good light and a positive light and we
will continue to grow from it and it'll
be true to the theme of our podcast
where we're growing together so let's
keep growing