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The Yishai Fleisher Show: Hanukkah Socks in Space
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Hanukkah is the ultimate Israeli independence holiday. But does Hasmonean-style independence mean xenophobia? Rabbi Yishai ponders the challenge of assimilation in light of Joseph's dreams. Then, Malkah Fleisher on the Festival of Lights from the deep Negev and on Astronaut Jessica Meir's Hanukkah socks from space.
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shot love everybody and welcome to the
high flyer show broadcasting live from
Judea to the world you're a part of it
where ever you are Shalom and welcome to
the Land of Israel Network and Shalom
and welcome to my study my little
workroom here in Judea overlooking the
mountains of the mountains of the
Maccabees that's right this is where
many of the battles of the Maccabees
took place here close by in Beit seward
this is where Judah Maccabee held out
against the Syrian Greeks this is also
where Eleazar one of the Maccabees fell
and he thought that he was attacking one
of the either the king or the Seleucid
king or maybe one of the generals and
the elephant fell on top of him as
though as the story goes so I'm looking
at right now at these mountains and
thinking about the Maccabees and I'm
thinking about you as we are in this
incredible holiday called Hanukkah now
I'm recording the show a little bit
early this is today is or it's only
Monday and it's the first day still of
the first candle of Hanukkah but I'm
going to vacation as as we our family
does during Hanukkah every year and I
wanted to get something out before we
left and not miss the show because it's
just such an important holiday and
something that I wanted to really share
with you I want to share the feelings of
this holiday with you and right now at
my desk I've got a little check the set
up I'm just looking at this right now
I've got a casing of a explosive grenade
called the m203 a part of the something
called a grenade launcher from the
bottom of an m16 or different other ways
that that can be shot I have one of
these casings that I took back from the
Army and guess what the weird thing
about this casing is is that 80 lights a
so-called tea light fits right into this
casing I got this casing right now in a
tea lights there and I got a one candle
lit this is not for the Hollis this is
just to remind me that it's Konica and
right behind it I have a paper cutout
that was given to me by some German
tourists as a Star of David and the
menorah is within it and it's kind of
the the candle is lit and it's light is
glowing onto this Star of David with the
menorah in it and it's and it's
giving a shadow behind it of just a
larger version of the same cutout and it
faces underneath this window this window
on these Judean mountains and I can feel
remember that I could feel the the
presence of the of the Maccabees and the
battles here and I can also feel you
hearing me wherever you are right now
and altogether it just gives me this
feeling like wow this this this holiday
of Hanukkah do we do we understand the
full weight of it and I said something
to my wife Malka and she said to me this
is surprising to her a little bit and I
was like surprised that she was
surprised she said I should write it up
but I'm gonna tell to you on this show
and that is really Hanukkah all that
stuff that I was describing I was
getting to this point Hanukkah is the
ultimate independence holiday it's the
ultimate
Yamaha's mode we have a yachtsman in our
time but Hanukkah is the ultimate you
mots modes and that's because while we
have today independence we also have a
lot of haters and enemies that live
within our borders and we also do not
have a temple but Hanukkah reflects all
three aspects independence political
independence a land that is no longer
filled with the enemies because the
Maccabees either killed or got rid of or
converted their enemies in various ways
they dub with them and number three they
had a temple and please do not fall for
the misnomer that somehow the Maccabees
did it in in a few months and then the
whole thing is over it was a 25 30 year
battle incredibly bloody incredibly
challenging incredibly also an tight
also fight with the Jews you need to say
it was on some level also a civil war so
that's not a that's not a simple thing
to swallow especially in modern
sensibilities it's like wow you can't
have a civil war you know we've got the
beggin doctrine I'll never shoot at a
fellow Jew and and maybe that's right
but that's not Hanukkah okay and just
yesterday
just yesterday I was touring in Chevron
a very very so-called liberal group and
I say so-called because I don't think
that self-identifying liberals are
oftentimes as liberal as they may think
because their ideology is oftentimes
quite a liberal to the rest of us right
the Jews or the Israelis in any case so
this guy says to me a professor tonight
because I can't go into the tombs of the
patriarchs and matriarchs there's blood
that's been spilled on top of the head
of Abraham and he was referring to the
Goldstein massacre and I said that
happened 25 years ago still it's
disgusting it's bloody and that's not
Judaism I go not Judaism what about King
David what about the exodus from Egypt
and I kept listening in things and I'm
like do you want to tell me that that
you can't deal with a Judaism that is
that is bloody you might as well turn in
your card buddy you might as well give
up being a tribe member and and he had
some clever and yet incorrect answer to
give me but in any case Chanukah my
point is is not exactly an embrace of
brothers an embrace of son brothers and
then a challenge to some other brothers
and so to the tour portions that we're
dealing with right now are also a hard a
hard look into the Jewish family and to
the tension within the Jewish family
we're talking about here within the
righteous 12 brothers and the sages and
the Kabbalists have all kinds of ways of
dealing with this which I respect very
much in many ways the Kabbalists want to
say a lot of this was done against their
own will there there that for example
Yehuda turning towards Tamar and having
relations with her as though she's a
harlot it says the the Kabbalists don't
like he didn't even want to do it but
the angel just pushed him to it
and if you read the text carefully there
are little clues like that for example
it says for yet - there
like he kind of the road push them
towards her or when it says about Joseph
you know God could have made it that
Joseph never saw his brothers because
his brothers would have been had gone to
different town and the text goes out of
its way to tell you somebody told him
the way and then there's an angel told
him how to go there so that so that what
so that the whole narrative the God
wanted to happen is going to happen
which is the Exile God wanted the Exile
did we deserve the punishment of exile
that's not clear what is clear is that
God said to Abraham your children are
going to be strangers in the land of
Egypt and they're gonna come out after
400 years and I want that to happen I
want that to take place so we are exiled
through this process that we're in these
two Torah portions and really really uh
you know in my lash my last show which
was this airport show where I wasn't
feeling good and thank you so many
friends for writing me and well-wishes I
really do appreciate it very much but I
was in a funky situation there it wasn't
very late and I wasn't feeling good and
I hadn't had as much time to prepare as
I would have liked
III forgot to say a few things that
really matter to me and and one of them
is that is that to understand that that
Torah portion of IHF is really all about
the beginning of exile the beginning of
the Exile that's going to take us
through the rest of the Torah right the
Jewish people through the rest of the
five books of Moses are going to be
either in the Egyptian exile or in the
Sinai desert right on the edge of coming
to the Land of Israel but never quite
making it as opposed to that as Hanukkah
Hanukkah is a land of Israel holiday
it's never about exile it's actually
about incursion about about four nations
entering our land and our soil after
already there was a second temple and
the rule of great nations over the Land
of Israel that's very different that's
very different than the Jewish people in
exile and I've written about this and I
think it's very important to understand
that there's a
there's a different modality between a
Jew living in the Diaspora where he is
get he or she is given to the host
community to the host body and we have
to be appreciative and and and and
subservient to the host body as opposed
to our nation on our land but having to
sometimes push back on foreign
influences in incursions into our land
or foreign entities still in our land
the book of Joshua is all about getting
rid of all these foreign entities that
are in the land and so to today it is it
is not politically correct to say that
we've got entities in the land that we
got to get rid of but that's part of the
biblical story and in hanukkah's is is
about cleansing the lands from foreign
influences foreign ideas foreign
people's foreign gods foreign ways to
serve in the temple and and an
attraction to those foreign things that
are in the lands so that's what Chanukah
is about as opposed to our Torah portion
so so in some way we're like it crossed
across currents right there's the cross
current of we're learning of the Torah
portions about the Exile and about going
down into Egypt and about and about
accepting God's decree that the Jewish
people will go into exile while Chanukah
is much more about exiling the getting
rid of the stuff that's in the land and
in purifying it on the other hand there
is something that brings it together and
that is the story of of the challenge of
intra Jewish fighting and should do
introduce tensions and also the question
of when we're in the Exile how much can
we accept from the foreign from the from
the host body how much of their culture
and milieu can we accept upon ourselves
and so to in our land are we supposed to
be completely rejectionist of all
foreign influences that's not quite
clear that's what the Maccabees were
about but
later on they they were unable to hold
that line the Jewish people weren't
unable to hold that line and there's
always a question are we supposed to
somehow engage on the one hand the
answer it seems obvious yes on the other
hand no we're supposed to be a nation
that dwells alone and I even found a
famous Talmudic passage where rabbi
Shimon bar Yohai is is speaking very
badly about the Romans the folks that
come after the Greeks and he says
everything that they do is do is for
profit and for their own self and then
for their own self aggrandizement and
supposed to rep you who to bar eli who
had a different take all together and he
said no this nation has these Romans
they have incredible things that they do
look at look at the infrastructure that
they bone that's just amazing
and they've brought culture to the world
we owe them something in Rebbe who
d'bari lie and rebbi shimon bar yohai
are totally at crosscurrents which one
is right well history shows right no
history does not show both of them are
highly respected rabbis rabbi Shimon bar
Yohai is of course the author of of the
Kabbalah and Robert a bar Eli is the
most quoted rabbi in the Mishnah his is
his socks are the most quoted Halawa
decisions in the Mishnah so which one is
right
Romans are Romans are an amazing people
and their culture is something to be
admired or they're to be completely
rejected maybe the answer lies in the
difference between the revealed Torah
which is the Mishnah and the Kabbalah
which is the hidden Torah maybe on the
level let's not call it superficial but
on a more no definitely not superficial
on a more this worldly practical level
surely there is what to learn from the
Romans but on the deep deep connection
that a Jewish person has to God that is
a Boober Boober e'en like a Boober way
of thinking which is I though it's me
and you got in it's our secret way which
is certainly in the worship of God there
is no Roman 'us
in the wind though in the ways of life
there is an appreciation for the Roman
Way but in service of God there is not I
think that that is a deep answer and all
of us we have to serve God in the true
way of the Torah but then and that's the
call coeliac of the voice of Jacob but
in the way that we engage this world we
have to shop at Amazon and and go to
college and get a job or or know how to
you know not all not everybody that has
a job goes to college some of the great
you know business people in this world
but they know how to engage this world
so the hands are the hands of a son so
that is I think some of the tensions
that that underlie this holiday but
still though the main point that I want
to get across is the great day of
Independence where are where our
political body is independent our land
is free from influences that are
rejectionist of the land of it of the
people of Israel the Land of Israel and
there's a temple in Jerusalem that's the
full independence and that's what
chronic is and that's what I want you to
consider when you're lighting the
Chanukah candles which is full
independence not rejection necessarily
of everything Greek or Roman is not
necessary don't go too far but in terms
of Jewish independence in the Land of
Israel
that's what conquering Hanukkah is it is
it a total victory and that is as my
mother put it to me that is their
message for the generations that is
their legacy for the generations that
they were able to achieve that a lot of
people poopoo it and say hey but it
didn't last at all and they became
themselves I want us forget that for a
second just remember their heritage
their legacy what they brought into this
world a vision that they brought into
this world so that's the Maccabees and
and we are asked to be Maccabees and
there's a power to be a Maccabee by the
way today on Twitter I got to put up to
just you know there are things that you
put up from time to time that are just
good and then there are things that you
put up there just fabulous and when I
got to put out
was was two things one is the lighting
of a Nokia on top of Martha m'appelle
out with a video taken by a drone by the
army and it's nighttime footage and just
see the whole Martha on the tomb of the
fathers and mothers lit up and the light
that it's supposed to be just gorgeous
just blew me away and then you have to
see it and it's on my Facebook and my
Twitter and the other thing was this
this tweet by an American Jewish
astronaut named Jessica Meir so two
things about her name that know right
before I tell you what her name is about
she's got this tweet so she's an
astronaut and she's up at the
International Space Station
she's a Shelia Claire from NASA right
and she tweeted a picture that is now at
this point been liked it's being
retweeted over 3,000 times now in like
16,000 times but it's basically a
picture of her at the like the point at
the part of the space station that has a
lot of windows that you could look out
into space or like vista point there and
you just see her feet over a beautiful
blue earth it's her feet are kind of
dangling and it's her feet with socks on
them and the socks are Hanukkah socks
they have a menorah and they have a Star
of David and she has her feet a little
bit crossed and it's just right over the
the the background is this big blue
earth with clouds and she rides Happy
Hanukkah to all those who celebrate it
here on earth celebrated on earth Happy
Hanukkah from the International Space
Station at NASA Wow
I mean she thought of taking those socks
with her when to celebrate Hanukkah down
the line that's a mind-blower that's
just awesome
and I of course retreated between it
that Jessica is though a heap the the
the the male form of Jessica's Jesse
Jesse is the English Way of saying a shy
and Meir or mayor is from the word here
to light up so she is lighting the light
of yishai and Isha of course is the
father
of King David so this is a messianic
messianic thing Meir is light jessica's
Jesse's shine and the light of yishai
not a shy fly sure but the light of
Messiah is being lit up here and that is
just awesome we salute you Jessica Mayer
I salute you I think you're just amazing
and awesome and really a cool lady she's
got a hundred twenty thousand followers
on Twitter I urge you to do that as well
so happy Chanukah my friends and also
I'm getting Happy Hanukkah from the
United Arab Emirates which is really
neat stuff it's great to hear from it's
great to hear from our Arab brothers and
sisters in the region that really they
are calling it out loud and and this is
this is the moment of social media that
social media shines social media has a
way of not shining but this is shining
to me that Arabs around the region are
saying we are with you Israel we stand
with you Israel and they are doing it
loudly and it is beautiful and I just
want to urge my brother Hassan suwanee
to keep lighting it up he is awesome he
is awesome and there are many more Arabs
out there he's from the United Arab
Emirates he's a businessman and he's
just doing amazing stuff by just sending
that message out there and that is
that's powerful to me that this region
is uniting and about Hanukkah right when
the Gentiles promote Hanukkah
that is also Masonic times because
Hanukkah is you know it's not the
tolerant holiday it's there's an element
of it of which is like the says when you
celebrate hug you're actually saying the
real Jewish people be strong stand up
and hold on to your Jerusalem and the
fact that that that some folks that are
not into that way of thinking love
Hanukkah is mysterious
maybe that's the aspect of the holiday
of lights and then maybe it's kind of
you know relationship in time to the
Christmas season whatever it is but like
it is a mystery to me how people who are
kind of posing as the anti-zionist and
all that our our Hanukkah lovers do they
somehow you know blind themselves to
what the real meaning of Hanukkah is
whatever you know maybe it's their
Jewish soul is lit up you know by this
thing and we should see it positively
maybe there's one more amazing
connection between Hanukkah and the
story of Joseph that I want to talk
about and that is that Pharaoh has in
this week's Torah portion Pharaoh has
the famous Dreams Pharaoh's dreams write
and Pharisees you know the the healthy
cows and they're eaten by sickly cows
and he sees the the healthy grains eaten
by sickly grains and the number seven is
mentioned there and Joseph is able to
interpret them and Joseph you know he's
the the pretties the what does he's
something of Dreams I forgot the name of
the the proper name for Joseph he's he's
the king of dreams right so Joseph king
of dreams that's right so this Joseph
king of dreams he's able to interpret
this dream and then become the Viceroy
because he's very gifted I have a
different take on Pharaoh's dream
Pharaoh dreams about cows being
swallowed
right good cows being swallowed maybe
the cows as we know that that Joseph is
represented by the bull maybe the cows
that that the Pharaoh really dreams of
is actually the children of Israel and
he says the children of Israel are going
to come down into Egypt and we an
inferior culture Egypt will swallow up
the culture of Joseph and his brothers
and then there's also the the the the
corn not the corn the husks which is
also we know that's that's Joseph
because Joseph had a dream then that the
other bundles of grain bow down tents so
again here's green and you see the bad
grain is gonna eat the good grain in
other words Joseph you've come down into
Egypt and your brothers are gonna come
down to Egypt the Jewish people will and
we will swallow you guys up we will
destroy you we will be superior we will
we will consume you we will we will
assimilate you into our system the
minute that Joseph explains these dreams
guess what Pharaoh does he changes his
his name stuff not panache he gives him
new clothing and an Egyptian look and an
Egyptian wife all right
so basically Pharaoh's like okay let me
begin fulfilling the prophecy which is
I'm gonna swallow you up but Joseph
keeps his internal identity yes he's got
this other name but he remembers who he
is
I need oseh feel say later on and the
wife which is one of the most powerful
things to assimilate a person you know
out of the Jewish family line
well the mentor says that she's actually
the product of the rape of Dina
instrument which where it was Joseph's
kind of soul is really bound to the tent
the place where he's really from and
she's actually been sent down to Egypt
through a wild way but she's actually
his kin his family and and he indeed
marries shall we say a Jewish girl or a
girl from his tribe from his family and
so all the efforts the Pharaoh to
swallow up the identity of Joseph is for
naught he makes him an important citizen
and in Egypt but still though he always
eats separately from the rest of the
Egyptians somehow it's remembered that
he's not of them and so that well to
swallow up the Jewish people in Egypt
never happens and so to the Land of
Israel today it's obvious that it's a
separate entity from the Arab countries
around us but back then 2,000 years ago
it was provinces you know this was part
of the of the Greek world then there was
you know as Alexander's domain and and
the generals were fighting over it but
it wasn't supposed to be the separate
kind of Jewish state maybe a province of
Judea and yet of the Maccabees fought
for that for that special of Jewish
identity the Jewish identity so
important and so much erodes today that
unique identity and it's oftentimes from
folks who claim that they're fighting
for human rights civil rights social
justice but in the end their effect is
and they say this is the name of Judaism
what I call hashtag my Judaism but in
their effect is to try to undermine
authentic Judaism the story of Judaism
the the goal of Judaism
that does not mean that we're supposed
to be not socially just but it means
that we do have our own ethnic separate
identity and again in cooperation with
the rest of mankind in cooperation with
the other nations around us in part of
the Middle East in part of a globalized
world absolutely but internally deeply
inside our relationship to God has to be
our special way or especially I'm very
very excited about this tension between
rabbi Shimon bar Yohai and review hibari
lie that that tension because I myself
always felt that had I been in that room
and they were talking about the Romans
then I would have easily been on the
camp of Rebbe Hooda bar-ilan been like
wait a minute the roads and libraries
and aqueducts and you know and one of
the Romans never given us well it's safe
to walk the streets at night etc I would
have been on the run review who debar
Elias I tonight and i kind of didn't
know the second part which was our
review de varela is incredibly respected
I always thought maybe Shimon was right
and he was right for generations
so what was there something wrong with
me no there's nothing wrong with with
that way of thinking it's just
understand where the parameters are
where we have to have great relations
with the world with America with our
regional counterparts with the UAE with
Saudi Arabia etc with the whole world
with the Mediterranean Basin trade
globalization which i think is fantastic
for Israel right and that maybe it's the
difference also between globalization
and globalism have you heard about this
difference on the one hand international
trade international relations the
quickening of all these things a good
thing but that doesn't mean there should
be one world government all right
don't think that just because there's
international trade there should be one
government that rules all of us is one
mankind No so keep and they they
distinguish between internet and between
globalism and globalization I forgot
which one is which but you understand at
the point which is one one is meant to
be you know a more conductive world of
trade in relations and one is supposed
to erase erase
ethnic in religious and in linguistic
and financial identities which is which
is really not the way to go so keep up
the nationalism but that does not mean
give up internationalism enjoy
internationalism but don't necessarily
give up nationalism the internationalist
nationalists is that is that is that
interesting is that an interesting a
combination of words the
internationalists nationalists because i
came up with a phrase that the
rationalist nationalists in any case
friends there will be more part of the
Shai show coming up I hope that I'll be
able to record with maka from an
undisclosed location in the desert and
send it and add it to this part of the
show I want to wish you a Happy Happy
Hanukkah filled with light and filled
with strength feel the light of the
Maccabees the light of of incredible an
unexplainable courage in the face of
impossible odds that is that is really
the miracle of Hanukkah and as rabbi
hyman richmond once said to me
the real miracle of Hanukkah is that
there was a family who was willing to
stand up and that's that's what we have
to be today as well the Maccabees in
every single one of our lives for self
attainment self self fulfillment but
certainly for national Fatima to stand
up and beat that battery alright folks
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of Israel god bless you guys
inshallah
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alright folks you are listening to the
Shai fleshes show and we are now
broadcasting from our car somewhere down
in the deep Negev and we are actually a
few kilometers away from the beautiful
small desert city of meets pheromone
which is right on the edge of the ramon
crater and I'm here with our beloved
Malcolm Fleischman welcome welcome to
the show thank see shy we're in the car
and I smell like smoke and meat and I'm
looking at our canoe Kia which is which
I bought at Rami levy grocery store
which is encased in like this thin glass
and metal case so that the winds will
not blow out our candles that are yet
outside of our tent which is an
air-conditioned tent I won't lie because
it is way cold out here in the Negev
desert even though it's the Negev desert
and you think of the desert as a hot
place at night it's really quite cold so
we are glamping that's right we're
glamping but also by the way today
wasn't even that hot today was actually
a kind of cold day and we went to the
alpaca farm and followed by a small kind
of like a small private planetarium
which was which was an interesting thing
yesterday we did a beautiful amazing
hike in the Land of Israel and this is
something that mark and I this is
something you and I do every year really
it's something that I that I thought was
always important which is which is
vacationing on Hanukkah the kids are off
of school Hanukkah it's really great
time to meet the Land of Israel and to
get back to nature get back to kind of
being like for me the last few days I
cannot believe how many people have
tried to reach me and I've just been
like look I'm on vacation I'm just I'm
not even I'm not even telling them I
can't be reached I'm just like I just
don't respond that much and and have
just lowered my social media a little
bit but like just back to nature back to
back to family back to Hanukkah back to
like what it's all about
and I personally always say to you
Michael right like the greatest gift you
could give me is just some vacation time
right that's the best thing we could do
I'd love to be with the kids and I love
to be with you ah well I love to be with
you too and this has been a really fun
time we did a lot of stuff we went
camping with friends friends that we've
been camping now with several times I
don't know how many times how many has
it been
but we've been we found some friends who
our kids are friends with their kids and
we go camping with them usually Hanukkah
time and and we went on like an amazing
hike where the only downside was that we
kind of misjudged a certain part of the
what they said he was the muscle a
certain part of the the route of the
campaign and then we were forced to wade
through what we'll call hip deep water
which was extremely cold and kids had to
be carried on backs of grownups and
there was a lot of general screaming our
four-year-olds are foiled almost got
hypothermia I think yeah I would like to
just say that Lamaze breathing is good
for a lot of things not just birthing
and I would like to say to the Lost
people thank you that I like I did a lot
of this on my way through the water
demand version of a birthing I guess it
was it was very intense and very
memorable and yeah you sure you did a
good job feeding the all pockets today
yeah I'm to really like you yeah late to
you yeah I felt I felt a certain kinship
so stick your teeth out and they spit at
you they spit at our friends bar oh
that's considered considered good luck
what can I tell you folks just just it's
so great to get out to date you're so
great to light a fire we've lit a fire
every single night and barbecue done
beautiful trailer grills and really
right now in the car because the kids
are making a lot of noise in the tent
and we're just looking from the car to
the
to to those to those four hunk Andals
and the shamash and they're just so MUC
Evette that that encasing is so
brilliant it really does not allow the
wind to break 7990 a robbie levy grocery
store all right so that's like what like
25 bucks 30 bucks whatever and it's a
beautiful beautiful encasing last year's
broke so you bought a new one
79 1990 shekel shekels and then just
like okay that's right that's right a
good deal we're a little bit it turns
out that the other people around me also
were aware of this deal or something
similar because a lot of the people
camping around us are also religious and
they also brought their glass-encased
pinocchio wisely because it's windy and
chilly out here that's right most of our
neighbors here are indeed observant Jews
but not all the the tent right next to
ours is a non observant family monkey
you invited them yesterday to light the
haruya I noticed that that they did not
bring their own conocchia and so
therefore they're not fulfilling the
Mitzvah of lighting the Hanukkah candles
which is a shame because it's such a
wonderful Mintz is such an easy one
which really is not taxing and give so
much to the kids it's almost I'm almost
like thinking to them to myself like
right why don't why aren't you lighting
this isn't even so how should we say
it's not heavily Orthodox it's light
they just don't think it's important
maybe they don't see why they should do
it maybe they think it's a nice thing
but they don't understand why they
should be doing it every single day
right that's part of really that that's
really part of when you're when you're
when you're observant so the
commandments take on a kind of mystical
and demanding element that you just
can't you can't kind of second-guess and
you can't play around with but that also
gives regularity and structure and and
something that happens you know
automatically and it's just just there
and you don't have to think about it so
ironically having something forced upon
you also relieves you of considering you
know do it or not do it you just do it
and then right and then you just enjoy
it because you
anyway I mean the Chanukah candles are
one of those things that I think is just
a pleasure to do anyway that's what I'm
saying it's like an easy one it's like
it's like but you see what happens when
it's just a cultural thing and it's just
refute like you can choose to do it or
not do it you know anyway but what was
it our neighbors they were super happy
to come to our candle lighting that's
right and we went all the way through
most or I don't know about you guys but
I went through just one verse of most
swear all the way growing up every year
and even that we were like wow we're so
hardcore we're singing a whole verse and
most sorry but there's more how many
verses are there do you remember I guess
five six there's a bunch and they were
just like okay but then I gave their
kids guilt because I have guilt will
travel when you marry a Hungarian woman
the way to get rid of the the the
service of God through guilt is through
the hanukkah mitzvah of guilt and you
give the guilt it offsets the guilt monk
a great job right yeah I love jokes
breaks pets I like jokes at my expense
well that's the major cultural one of
the major cultural differences between
us and that's kyboots Kelly oh that's
right that's the immediately upset about
jokes at their expense
yeah we're breeding that away which
direction in any case so this is just a
little short discussion and and I'm sure
there's important politics and issues to
discuss right now yes
there's ICC and there's and there's
heparin stuff there's all kinds of stuff
out there but you know what it's like
I just yawned you just yawned it's like
it's like 8:30 no it's no it's not it's
like 9:00 its 9:30 to maka it's 9:30 to
in the car in the Negev and and it's
just a pleasure to be with you everybody
in this caucus MF like Samantha green
some math when you're here in the Negev
with the Jewish people you just you just
have a lot more confidence or we saw we
saw hundreds and hundreds of student
groups in that Canyon that we were
hiking in and they look good and you
just say to yourself you know I'm Esau
and I think I think I think if you have
to boil boil the whole Konica down it's
really I'm sorry okay you know I mean
you could boil all the holidays do that
well yeah I like what you're saying I I
like what you're saying it's but it's
not exactly about on Easter hi it's like
it's not enough the the the story of
Hanukkah was actually that it's not
enough that Ami's Ralph I was super high
during the during the time of the Greeks
cultural expansion out into our area and
they work like okay I'm they were doing
just fine and and some people saw it as
an advancement maybe they're you know
maybe it's good for us and the Maccabees
were like that is not enough to be high
is not the goal the goal is not too high
the goal is to do something more than
that and to mean something more than
that and to be who we are
I agree with everything you're saying
and I'm actually foresaw that you would
say this did you yes in my in my mind's
eye in my third eye that's right i I
first saw it in my sixth sense whatever
it was called and so or in just my
blodge achill reasoning and so I parry
by saying for sure you're right you're
totally right but what I meant was
really is that I'm Israel has a mission
when I say I'm East Ralph I like the
strap art it's not an arm that's high
it's Easter L a nation that's meant to
be a light to the world through its
Torah through its real it's name is it
has the name of God in it l it's it's
it's a very very mission without that
it's not on my strong side it's on
somebody else got it Sam I don't know
Jacob and if I or or you know shemitah
you know of the Semites no no we're
talking about these right health thing
the real thing the deep thing of army
strong faith that's what I'm talking
about what it's really all about well I
appreciate what you're saying yes you
can foresee that I would foresee yes I
mean not I would not know but I'm not
surprised that you would Perry as it
were Luke to use the word he used
I just you know our our secular
next-door neighbors at the camping
ground there are lovely people and there
are definitely high you should see the
way that they
like eat a beautiful meal and they're
together and then you know I just saw
one of the ABBA's like brushing so
meticulously brushing the teeth of one
of the little little girls and you know
they're very nice and they're very
polite and they're very Israeli but they
don't know what Chanukah is you know
speaking of social media show you go
through social media and you see that
like their people know these like Jews
who put the like BDS on the on the
dreidel yeah they like put a B a D and s
and a heart on the four sides of the
thing a BDS I'm just like you don't know
what Chanukah is you don't know who the
Maccabees were and you don't know what
we're doing here you don't know why
we're celebrating this holiday you don't
know who you are even and that is that's
like the tip of the iceberg of it you
know there I love on Easter L and I love
the secular Jews and I believe in the
long game and I so I don't like get
freaked out necessarily by the fact that
Israel seems to have such a long way to
go when it comes to regaining our
culture after all this time but at the
same time like I understand that we do
have a long way to go and and you know
the Maccabees they went militant on it
and some people have a different you
know way of doing it the real abhava
charriba for example would not go
militant right his idea was not like
slaughter the secular people you know I
mean his idea was like inspire the
secular people and get them to love the
Torah and these are like the issues that
were that we're dealing with today is
that the Jewish people really do have to
wake up to their identity they ought to
for their own good for the world's good
for forever impressions good Macha there
are four Hanukkah candles and that means
we're either halfway done or the classes
half full or it's half empty it's almost
halfway over or only just getting to the
real to the real a great point of
Chanukah which is the eighth day and you
know we light one and we add one every
day but there was there was another
rabbi Rabbi Shammai right who said now
let's start with eight and then go down
one
go down until there's just one little
light and there's something I like I
like about that which is like and that's
not the way we do it but like the idea
is like until we know that there's only
one right there's all these forces
there's all these things and these all
these wars those great things but it all
goes down it goes down until you
remember it's only one hush em right one
it's a shed one is a sham one is a sham
and the heaven of the earth and I want
to thank everybody for being with us I
want to thank Ben brettski
Moshe Herman and Tabitha for getting
this show out to the world I want to
thank the Land of Israel Network for
being so wonderful I also bumped into
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to mention the true blue like we saw the
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video of mayor of the avocado Kea at the
very top of Muhammad Villa I want to
bless you guys wherever you are with an
awesome rest of Konica lots of light for
your household for your family for your
for your for your the light of meaning
that's it's really that's there's I
think I think that's we're always
dancing around it but at the end it's
like the Chanukah candles are there
they're there they're a tool to find
meaning and I really want to bless you
and I know you as parents and
grandparents and those folks out there
you want to find meaning of this holiday
man I shall give you that that inside
look at that kind of key out look at
those candles and just be like yes feel
that feel that meaning and and be able
to pass that meaning on through the
generations
all right folks more great stuff is on
the way god bless you and also shabbat
shalom shabbat shalom from the land of
Israel happy Chanukah
happy Chanukah
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Josh hastened here host of Israel
uncensored on the Land of Israel network
at the Land of Israel calm check out my
special Hanukah interview with Eugene
Cantor ovitch head of the international
law department at the qohelet Policy
Forum he talks about the International
Criminal Court's decision to investigate
Israel for alleged war crimes in Judea
and Samaria you can't let us build here
or there because all of these things
were said the triggers for a 950
investigation and on the left the i-15
investigation was coming anyway dr.
overage says that while the ruling is
simply political it could be a blessing
in disguise listen to find out why happy
Chanukah to all of our listeners