This Entrepreneur's Story Will Change Your Life

and there that night I saw videos and I saw people walking around with a tag I'm a Kidney donor and another another guy's walking around I'm a recipient I was like wow you I was 30 30 years old at the time and I told my wife why don't I donate a kidney I can't believe you really want to go through this I'm like yeah he's like you're not drunk none of your business oi none of your business m it's the noneof your business podcast hosted by Michael anoshi welcome back everybody to another amazing episode of the noneof your business podcast thank you for joining I'm your host Michael Greenfield joined with me is ushi Schwarz uh this episode is sponsored by the serenity healthc Care Center which we'll get into later during our commercial break and of course the prime Source production team thank you to all of our followers and listeners we ask you to please subscribe comment get get involved we enjoy your feedback and we're growing together on our journey today we are joined by the person that told me my first dirty joke when I was in sleep awake camp and I was 9 years old to naftali Welcome to the program thank you thank you for having me you're one of the most spiritual people I know and uh right so Journey so like what was that like um it was definitely a beautiful I I don't want to call it a roller coaster because it wasn't a roller coaster but but as soon as we moved to the states I was sent to public school actually I was sent to Yeshiva we went I went to Hulk Hebrew Academy of West Queens uh I was there for a year I couldn't stand it I hated it so much so that I took you know in the bakery they would have or the pizza shops they would wrap the pizza box with with a white string I would take those strings and put them here in the side so it's it was situs because we had a very annoying teacher that would come in every day check are you wearing s so just check the string so that's what I had because I couldn't stand it I could I hated it that's terrible the teacher would actually check yeah yeah that and she would say time for diing and it was so hated I mean as as a kid in second grade who has no connection whatsoever to to going to Yeshiva and when I was I remember being in in kindergarten and we had a uh we I grew up in R laon and we had a fence it was a shared building and there was a fence one side is the non-religious and the other side was the religious and they used to tell us that the religious people are smelly so this you know in growing up like why would I want to associate or be connected to a smelly kid and some kids had dirt coming out of their ears I mean whatever they were just not wellmaintained that could very well be also with a regular guy so growing up I was like I want to stay away from these guys from religious people from religious people and then when we came here all of a sudden you're like there no there's nothing bad and we were in a religious neighborhood in Queens ke Garden Hills so I started having making friends and then from there I actually started putting on kipa and tittis in public school no I finished fifth grade you left Hawke and you went to public school I left Hawke I went to Public School third fourth fifth wow and in the middle of fourth I put on aipa in tius and it was a whole year and a half that I was you know already practicing religion and then uh some Holy Soul a Jew I would actually mention his name because he's he's incredible guy Robbie Newman from Queens he put me into Dar Torah put me into Yeshiva and you know from there it's it's you know it's all history so your parents weren't religious my parents weren't religious and they came in why did you decide fourth fifth grade that you want to suddenly put on a c like how so my my siblings my older siblings uh who went to Ezra Academy if you heard of Ezra Academy they're incredible they they really help people they had one of the best reame then was rosha Weinberger from a from from Woodmere uh and he got my sister on board to become religious and then my S my sister started keeping shabas my mother had to cash of the kitchen and we started have to make ch then you know Friday night meals it became more official uh and then I told my sister I really I love this I I want to keep shabas with you I want to bench with you you know and and that that got me into it and from there you know it was became yiva and then from yiva we started rolling uh you know we don't know this life us she you know yeah the phenomena and we just met someone recently who's his 20s who was living at home and no one in his family is uh observant and he's doing it on his own I think it's amazing that a family allows you your parents allowed you the par my parents allowed it yeah not only that they put on you know now you you're going back and you're thinking about it wow to put in a shabus clock so the lights could turn on and off and I remember my brother he would bka shut off the light in the bathroom and I and I went on I got one of those shabas protectors and he would take it he would try to you know sibling rivalry your brothers do that's where it's normal it's normal but the fact that my parents got me the uh you know that that Cho I remember there was a push button that turn it and you set it and you know those are always very little button you still see them in Brooklyn is some old house over there you know you you'll find it is it off you know when I built my house by the way I created a shabus clock room that everything is controlled from one room you have that not only do I not have that I have never in my life used a shabus timer shabus clock ever on anything even when I was growing up ever I've never used one never been on one never used one a light that's on it stays on it's off it stays off goodbye have a nice day do you remember the shabas clock pins remember they had that little plastic pins and you had like no you had they come they came out and you if you lost it you couldn't use the shop clock ever you're like running around right before shop I need a black pin to turn it back on I need the on the why is he talking hit the sit had the uh the ability to say or do whatever he wants but uh that's that's an amazing background I I I can dive deep into that for hours and we could s but keep forwarding us up a little bit and telling us how you got to where you are today all right so uh then you know myy called I was introduced to myy and I fell in love I called it myy irides this is what myy was like wow I remember my sister and my brother-in-law they they brought me up on one uh and and we're talking about Albert drive and I was like wow I was so fascinated first of all the space and the the the beauty was summer it was really really nice and then I was like okay I want to go to yiva over here and I got myself into yiva I went to Baga yeah oh after bisha after bisha I went to Israel for a little bit uh came back I learned graphic design and um when did you got married married got married I was 21 I got married on my birthday on your birthday yeah 21 nice I met my wife in myy it's actually pretty fascinating Story how we met um I I came to myy to help an organization I had a friend uh Ron celle maybe you know him I know him okay M his father had an organization that he worked for arim arim they they help people to you know kir and all that uh and he said to me to I know you you're not shy you're not embarrassed you're a good fundraiser I need you here on Pim and M I told him listen it's a Thursday my parents are having their meal in Brooklyn if you can make sure that I get a ride back on on Perm day so I'll drive you fine no problem if you're going to drive me I'm in so I came to Mony on Wednesday afternoon we we had uh you know whatever it is we went collecting me and him and and whatever we did we did we did we made we did good um and then uh 3:00 in the afternoon I think like SK at 5:30 roughly we already driving towards uh pasak Road get on getting on from old Nik Turnpike onto the highway as we're about to enter the highway he says we have to turn around I'm like what for we forgot to say uh to my parents who are having a meal by the lon family are you kidding send them a beep beeper you know we have phones back then like stop by the get a pay phone and then be happy bur so go understand what that means go then we turned around got all the way right near Orel Court opposite side of where you were yep and we came there and that's where I met my wife oh what happened where she was just there she had she came from Montreal for pin yeah she's there she had uh she D dressed up like a bear so she had the you know like polka dots on her face and whatever her I not say hello to her but I asked the lady the lady who I I used to be a been biased by that house okay and I'm like who is that she's like Tom she's great that's she's your wife she's your wife that's it go I was like what are you talking about she called my mom that night told her get her on the phone I went out with her on Sunday for the first time this was perm night was Thursday night we went out on Sunday Monday Tuesday Thursday Shabbat we spent the whole Shabbat I came to monay I proposed about shabas one week one week one week one week I've ever heard of that stay with your wife for one week one week that's insane and that was it I mean you know we have a lot of listeners by the way that are not Jewish I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of but even by our standards one week is very very Fab you know what we're going to hear back yeah but then then of course you know her parents uh were opposed because she's Ash and I'm safic she's from benck back the background you know again what kind of sapharic are you uh Syrian you're Syrian Turkish now Syrian Turks usually marry into syrians only or can you go to Persia you could do whatever you want today today you could do whatever you want passing in in general you're you're not what's accepted is that you're you really should not intermingle because you know the the the cultural differences could really you know be become a challenge oi your story matters let's talk is the slogan for our newest sponsor the Serenity Center which is a clinic for therapy and many other types of services that people need for mental health challenges and I have to tell you that I did not want them to be a sponsor of ours until I tested them myself and I sat down as a session paid by my insurance with the leader morai Weinberg this person who has a radio show he has live Zoom conferences with hundreds and thousands of people tuning in every single week the reason why they do is because he is amazing I sat with him for over an hour and I got the most out of it and let me tell you I did a lot of talking he did a lot of listening and I learned that the Serenity Center is a clinic that provides a service for therapy that's LED and supervised by morai Weinberger and I see why they're so successful and it's just something that you know we need to mention more of and I want the community of Rockland County and even Beyond to know that if you need therapy don't wait and push it off because it might be too expensive or you may not be aware of the perfect therapist go to Serenity Center try them out insurance will most likely cover most if not all the charges and you will get top level service sounds like a no-brainer to me see that was your first uh job was was marketing printing graphic design graphic design yep and you were the actual graphic designer I was a designer you had a company you had you had people working for you I would say I had people working for me yeah back then back then if any couple was getting married they wanted to work on an invitation he would sit there and curate the logo and figure out the words and I did I did everything for them I mean I would meet people in the store and I see a couple that were just Eng on like here's my card you're going to you're getting married you need a wedding invitation and and believe it or not people called me from that of course um but you said you were laid off so that's before you had this business right yes so before I had the business I was working for someone and I found out later on that he was actually borrowing from mmak for three months to cover my salary a very very nice great guy uh and I felt bad and he uh at some point even six months prior to that he offered me either go off on your own or he said he was offered a job by some big uh uh marketing company and he's like I'll go and you run my business and that's where I got more involved and that's at least where I had a little bit of the experience to run a business I don't what do we need $20,000 buy a Mac buy a printer uh you know a little inkjet and uh scanner and you know and we we'll get you started your business by yourself started by yourself how old were you at the time 22 and you were just married have one kid just married and then three weeks later we had a kid and thank God is spired barem from there you know many clients later uh actually one of my biggest clients uh was U mty suard from gateways organization um I actually helped him four years prior uh to run a seminar one of his first seminars that he ran here when he was still with arim uh and then we met one day in the cleaners mazal cleaners you know next to Mandarin and we met over there like oh Tom how are you do graphic he's like oh I have an organization I need B shorts I need stuff and from that so he he was one of my biggest clients go he he the yeah he's one of the first organizations yeah like in Rockland County not just making an organization and kiru and rabbis inspiration but also one of the first haach programs yeah one of the programs that the organization into a program yeah and then the program supported the organization and that they just evolved now they have buildings in and hat and Tel Aviv phenomenal he he does incredible work and and you kick off your business so he I'll kick off my business and and I'll tell you at some point very very interesting you know because some people and this is this is part of the spirituality I I I think you know we have it it's it's ingrained in our in our blood system as stream but we also need to constantly work on and and so on um and whatever happens is for the best always even things that you think that are not good okay why don't I give you an example from a a a a movie that I just uh recently saw I don't know I don't remember the name bad with this where you're going with this yeah you're about to bring inspiration we're going to talk about Rabbi or some safe and I'm telling you from a movie from a movie okay I like your style go ahead two two uh uh girls that are are you know renting and they live in a dump uh I I I remember the name it's called doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter anyway they live in a dump and uh the guy came to evict them where's the rent money I gave it to her he gave it to him whatever the guy ended up stealing stealing the money and they had from from 10 o00 in the morning they had till 6 p.m. to come up with the money $1,500 they did whatever they could to try to come up with the money they ended up finding shoes hanging on a street and they sold it and they got the money they made 2500 now they had the money and then some other girl came and beat him up and took the money the girlfriend of the boy whatever anyway they don't have the money by 6: p.m. they show up and the guy emptied out their house they're like what do you mean you told us by 6 p.m. he says well I knew you're not going to come up with the money so I already evicted you uh they put the M on the street and at that moment you're like thinking tears are like how much worst going to get but I was like thinking to myself everything is for the best and what happened one of these uh one of the girls is is an artist but she didn't succeed she wasn't doing anything but now her art was out outside on display and some girl one of the new tenants that came she saw it she's like I'm I love this 3500 boom and all of a sudden she was like let's make a uh show and they made an art gallery that night and they made tons of money and I'm like look at that so from one thing that's bad and I was like being put out on the street it's really for your best every situation like is is like that in life things that sometimes seem so where where am I leading with this over here um we were renting for a few years in in Spring Valley and we get a call from the owner um I'm selling the house you guys have to leave and my wife like where are we going to go what are we going to do I told her everything is for the best we're going to find we're going to go look for a house to buy and we actually looked on ker Lane at six ker Lane you know where where uh aoka used to live and I don't know if you know them and um we looked at that one that wasn't good for us and the the next Sunday we saw the the house across the street five Kerlan my wife had some money put away from her childhood her parents saved or whatever but we needed uh so we had 20 and I'm like okay we'll get another 20 10% the house was 400,000 beautiful you need 10% my mortgage broker calls me and he says it's better if you get 20% down or am I getting 20% so here comes an unbelievable Mahala I don't know I could say this publicly but you know what it's okay I called up a client and U of an organization not suard but suart actually is the one that who introduced me to this client um and they were like American friends so they have an organization in Israel and they have an organization over here and I called him up and I said you know I need 50k would you loan it to me and I'll pay you back through printing services and and Designs he says yeah sure come tomorrow come pick up a check out I like what wow and to top it off he tells me um I don't want you to pay it back every invoice that you invoice because we were doing a lot of work for them and he says I don't want you to pay it back all at one lump sum every invoice that you invoice us you will deduct 20% towards the loan and then the rest you could keep for yourself within 2 years I paid off the whole loan what a bench what a bench and then he got laid off I mean he was like 90 literally 90 years old he got he got sent home now he was the emiritus of the of the company and they changed changed over and they stopped using us and I told my wife this is exactly what uh M told this is the reason why you came to this position I said the reason they were our clients was that we could actually put down that money for the house pay them back and be you know completely clean anyway that's that that's that I think was a very very nice uh no that's phenomenal what a story there are some good people in this world you know there are some people that do really nice things for other people I mean this guy this client of yours like he didn't have to do that and it's also very risky business because if you're paying it back from what you're invoicing you could start maybe inflating some of the prices and I don't know how you know how honest right it could be but he trusted you I imagine he trusted you they trusted me well they scrutinized everything they they knew everything that's going on it's a really nice story you mentioned your wife had some money saved up what does that mean she had how did she have that money saved up from her childhood I don't know $20,000 from babysitting that from her no way from her grandpar when she she was a child that her par her oh like her grandparents open up saving account usually that's what you do when you have a child that's born so she had that no the savings account I don't know what you mean my grandmother didn't leave me a sing account yeah that's really nice it was very very nice do people do that is that normal I mean everyone has a little bit of a flavor of how they do things but people save money for their kids I remember my dad he actually gave me an option when I first got married and he said to me I'll e I'll either give you $115,000 for a ring or whatever the amount was for the ring and the setting and so on yeah or I'll give you five grand you buy yourself a less expensive ring but I'll give you 20,000 to buy your first house what do you pick and he had money saved up for me and uh at the time we decided together she got a five grand ring and they gave you 20 grand towards your towards house cuz I made the decision that the house was more important together obviously I didn't do it alone but everybody does something different I think that uh especially if you have a friend that's a life insurance salesman I'm sure he'll tell you to save up for your child or buy life insurance for your four-year-old kid and save up over that's really nice you're very very fortunate yeah but it's interesting to me by not everybody has that it's interesting to me that toar you know um know oh she's asking you give me a moment that defines you and you're picking your business there's not defines you the mo first moment that he made his Mark yeah first like what's his entrance way into the adult world like I love that because you went into this business and then covid came and then you pivoted and then you started this whole new business line and like you're saying everything happens for a reason I just I would love to hear that process like you you definitely have a great marketing head you're a Salesman you're you know how to connect with you see a person in a in a store and you find out they're engaged and you know do you go to dating spots and is that something that you did also you know I don't know what you're talking about I'm I know you know his story already but I have no idea about anything that you just said that's what I'm saying so you had this printing business that would happened that's my point I'm saying you should take us forward yeah all right were you suful in the sprinting very successful in the printing business and how did you make in the biggest year when you were doing what was like the biggest year you had I'm just trying to get a sense like what kind of Revenue you were talking about I mean let let's just say until I was doing printing it was only design and that was bringing in about less than 100K a year as soon as I opened up the printing business uh that was in 2006 the the sales are almost uh uh quadrupled from year to year leaning the first year doing like four 400 between four and 500 the next year I was already at 1.2 and that just it kept on going up and up and then at some point what was your height I think it was like 1.5 wow roughly it's and then and then from there it started to decline you know there everybody goes through roller coasters in life yeah did you like it did you love what you did I loved what I did I loved what I because you get to actually see a product that you created it's your brainchild I created something and then that that thing was something would you be shocked to know that you did the imitations for my wedding I would not be shocked yeah you did you did imitations for my wedding I did invitations and you know what I tell people I go I go to their children who are uh uh now getting married I'm like you know you're alive because of me there I don't know about that I don't know about that but no invitations no wedding no trial yeah there all right all right everybody settle down I you're not cing cancer over here but that's pretty that's pretty cool so how long did you do this uh thing for and what happened um so we did the invitation we were in the invitation industry till 2020 till Co is there even uh industry now like I know when people believe it or not there is back back it's like via WhatsApp yeah WhatsApp a lot of that are hard copy invitations believe it or not our mailboxes are that's what people do they want to get a check our mailboxes are full because they realize that doing that that uh you know the wedding registry barely works the WhatsApp is that right am I right though in saying that that yeah really want to send physical invitation cuz they want to get a check I never send a check with the return card some people do if I when I show up to the wedding I'll bring a check with me some people do believe it or not there's a nice ount of of of money that comes and it's for the kids by the way how much money do you make at your wedding at our wedding we made 10K 10 nice actually I made six okay I made three yeah so apparently I suck or I have very stingy stingy friends and family members but I made three grand that's it people make oh and I and I spent it in like the first three weeks yeah I don't remember I'm just living I didn't have a lot of money when I got those like you know on my own who had money yeah who had money you know like the your most expensive bill was Verizon your life was so much simpler then it was I had so much less 50 contacts on your phone that's it you can't have anymore you're ex out of 50 I had one so you know that I still remember phone numbers from back then because you have to you have to memorize numbers sure I remember numbers of of of vendors of of of you know family members I remember my old phone number go ask me today what my daughter's number know what her number is you want to something very you know your daughter's number we talking about like by uh wedding money baritz for money right the kids we turned 13 usually they get I don't know how much they get like on average 3,000 4,000 something like that some of my friends told me they got like $5 $20,000 out there bar mitzah which is wild to me that to get that much money but I only discovered years later that it was very normal for people for mitz boys that they kept the money that the money was for them and they got to use it or their parents made them put it away and they used it you know later on when they got married I didn't keep my money my my parents actually took the money from me the night of the bar MIT I didn't get to like you know see count how much money it was they took the money from me and uh when I was like talking about my friends later on and they're like really like you you didn't keep the money like no and I thought it was normal I only started feeling bad about myself much much late at the time I think it was such a big deal you know but apparently inish world it's very common they take the B mitz for money from the kid and they use that to pay some of their bills from the B thing and in the non world it's not it's actually considered like a little it's an insult like yeah it's the kids money like you know even if the parents don't have money even if they have to borrow money to make AIT so they will not take the kids' money which I don't know how I feel about it I don't know like does the parents have the right to take the money should they not take the money like Michael what's your feeling on that you know that if a kid wins money in a lawsuit the parents have the right to use the money to help the kid live right so you can use let's say a kid you know something happens to him and there's a lawsuit and there's earnings of $100,000 off a lawsuit so what do you do do you give the kid the money or do you you you put it away for the kid or do you or if and if you can't live and you need that money what are you do so you're that's the that's the question that comes up inter these in these discussions that I've had before but legally you're allowed to use sometimes the parents are desperate sometimes they they don't have them they don't have money and if they got access to it in this way and they they feel like justified in and using it I guess yeah but doesn't mean it's right it doesn't mean it's and it's a it's a little bit of a controversial topic you know uh parents feel like sometimes entitled to you know their kids whatever until they're like you know married F on their own like everything you do is mine right you're living under my house but I think that's an old school mentality like I wouldn't do that for my kids I mean I should never need to I should never know of it but I I feel like I would feel very dirty like taking my kids by M for money I feel like I'd feel dirty doing that I guess it depends how much they made he you know what I I think every family has their own you know situation and how they handle it and how they they they are you know I heard of one family you know since I met people with invitations so they they would say we don't allow you to open the gift until you sit down and write a thank you note of course the yeah have gra that sounds yeah that's that's very nice don't you know you cannot cash the check until you teach appreciation sorry all those have have gratitude and you know what I just was something right now right Tak I hope my parents did I hope everybody but I definitely the Gratitude uh is called an avod the avod it's it's a work it's it's it's it's a uh something you have to work on because not everybody has naturally to be grateful you have to conly work on being grateful being grateful to I'm very grateful that you're in my life and uh one of the things that I know about you that oh she doesn't and um if it's okay with you I want to talk about the idea of being grateful you you know you call me up a lot for different you know uh organizations to support and to be a part of we'll get back to that in a minute because I have a problem with that and we'll f up that in a minute but besides that though you called me once and you said yeah come we're we're having a party for somebody who almost didn't live and they survived and and I came to the party and we're eating all this delicious uh Syrian food and so on I turned to the guy and I says so what's your deal he goes what do you mean what's my deal toer gave me his kidney wow and I'm like what what are you talking about what how much did he get paid for it what what do you say what why how do you know him is he your brother what total stranger total stranger H do that I've never actually asked you this story and I don't know it and since that moment I was like whoa new found respect for you like okay it's interesting to know but I was always scared to tell to ask the story and go through this with you but here we are so I'd love to hear it wedding invitations that's where it started with a wedding invitation for uh men Andy and Daniela Sabo eight years later she sends me an email she says I'm doing a party uh event for Renewal and I'd like you to print the Flyers and the uh postcards and the tickets uh I read the email and I said wow it sounds like a very worthy organization we're talking about they going back to 2011 uh and it was in the summer in August and I said to her I replied back I said you know what sounds like a very good organization I'm going to donate all the printing the Flyers and whatever it is she says wow thank you I'm giving you two tickets to come to the to the event so to make a long story short we came to the event it was wine tasting and food it was in permont it was so beautiful I fell in love with Pont Pont to me is like you just go and chill watch the bridge and the water it's very relaxing and calming um and there that night I saw videos and I saw people walking around with tag I'm a Kidney donor and another one another guy's walking around I'm a recipient I was like Wow and I was 30 30 years old at the time and I told my wife why don't I donate a kidney you know like well we're saving saving lives this is sound like a really really nice uh thing I took bam fredman's number he's one of the directors of um renewal and and I told I at first I gave him my card and I said we cannot call you you got to call us the next day it was Friday morning I called him he's like toer I'm never in my office on a Friday and I said I he's like I can't believe you really want to go through this I'm like yeah he's like you're not drunk anymore I'm like no I'm not they sent me the forms I then had to do blood work so I went to Dr fredman Benyamin fredman he was right across the street from us he did my blood work I overnighted it and within a week we got back results and they said that I match a guy who's been 17 years on dialysis he has 33 antibodies and you have 30 and you're the closest match possible the guy 17 years has been waiting and I said I told my wife I'm like are you kidding I'm sorry I I don't know what that means for antibodies okay let let's just say you have prongs like over here you have on all these the you know the back of the computer you have you have the uh uh uh the prong and then and it goes in okay antibodies are uh in in your uh uh immune system they protect you from certain sicknesses most people will have 8 10 12 15 whatever this guy uh ronen he received when he was 17 years old he received the kidney from a gavver that's a dead person who just passed or had a car accident uh which is not the best form of of kidney uh receiving a kidney because it's already it's it's it's the body went through a shock he had it for three years that uh kidney uh raised his antibody levels in his body to 33 from whatever number he had prior I don't know it doesn't make a difference so so basically if you're putting in a foreign uh object in somebody's body those are going to reject it 33 antibodies and if you put another guy who has 15 it's not going to the prong won't won't fit won't connect yeah it won't connect so it's going to be a reject the doctor said we're going to be able to handle the three by giving an antire uh um injection uh and and uh very very quickly we went through with it I called up the rabbis I introduced myself to Rabbi Mansour at that time for the first time it was that time when I was how you met Rabbi that well I met I met him a little bit before but then I called him I told him R I'm your you know I'm your student I'm and and it spiraled from there and we have a very good connection today um you know driving in on Fridays and going in keeping a steady connection with with the rabbi which was very important to me because in Mony we didn't really have you don't have anybody to really connect with at the time you know going going back to 2011 um and we saved the guy's life we let's get this time straight so you thought of the first time you even were I didn't even know what a kidney was right like the concept of donating kidney was just born a couple of weeks before that right when you went to the renewal event correct right they called you to do the graphic design oh sounds like a nice organization I'll do it for free they invited you you show up there you get inspired by all these other people I also want to do it I want to give a kidney and then like the next few days you give blood work and you're tested blood work and you're tested and then you and then they and then they find a match with a week or two they find a match for another person and also a very rare match right right exactly they realize like wow this person's been waiting for a long time we didn't think we're going to find someone now we're finding you and then then you start going into the colia you got you got to go to Columbia hospital you you have to meet with with a social worker you have to meet with psychi psychologist they got to make sure you're mind they got to make sure you're clean why are you doing this right how are you do how is anybody paying you yeah and of course you you like no one's paying me I'm doing this altruistically I really want to help this guy and I feel like I'm saving aive and I know my my children are going to learn from this over here and it's a lesson that they'll never forget by the way the my my my my my boys and my daughters who who were around I had four kids at the time they will never forget that we all together and obviously I had my wife to back back and sub if your wife is not on board forget about it you know you could have your mother saying H don't do it you know but and my teach my mother lesson to your four kids everybody teaching a lesson right now to me and Michael both sitting here and to anybody that's listening I'm like super inspired right now I I think that you might not be so Human After All like there's something wrong with you because us humans like we are hardwired to care about ourselves first and especially in a dangerous situation right is where our natural reflex is to First just take care of ourselves so if we're like hanging on on a cliff and somebody next us hanging on a cliff like I'm going to try to figure out how I survive right my first instinct is in how do I help the next person survive right if I'm in a danger situation as well that's how people are and the planes tell you first put on your mask and then yeah exactly for for safety reasons that makes sense to do it that way but when I think of donating a kidney I'm thinking first thing wait a second like what kind of harm is that causing me if I'm going to be down one kidney like I know that they say that you know you don't need two kidneys you need just one and if one fails they both fail so it's not even going to help you right but but still fact is is that it's a process it's difficult to do and they're opening you up once they cut you open all bets are off all bets are off so it's a risk it's still a risk it's definitely a risk and by the way I went in life at risk thinking I'm not going to wake up by the way I didn't know I was going to I I was like forget it they're putting me out and I might not even wake up okay to I want to take it up a notch may I I want to up the anti a little go ahead I could understand and I could relate to you a little bit better if it was for somebody you know and for somebody you love that you're willing to take more risk total stranger but for a stranger somebody that you never met to even take 1% risk for your own life is wild it's totally totally crazy so I'm like shocked right now I'm all inspired by how you did and so quickly in a couple of weeks this is all happening rapidly it's happening so quick so fast like who are you what what kind of it doesn't make sense to me I'm like it doesn't make sense where is this coming from I also want to add to that and I appreciate everything you're saying oi he he keeps using the word we donated who's the wi who's the wi without the wife you can't do it without the wife you can't do it that it's like it's it's an effort of it's it's it's a group effort yeah yeah also I involved and by the way my employees at the time who were working for me if they wouldn't be on board uh uh being able to to handle the business uh the printing that was going on at the time and the designs you know I'm the boss I'm running the show and I'm I'm out I was out for five weeks wow you the rec yeah recovery wow they say it's harder for the person giving the kidney than the person receiving the kidney it's a quicker recovery pretty quick they say right so what so you don't know this person and you decide to go through with it were you able to meet this person before they right before the yeah but you're allowed to is that is that yeah you're no I wanted to I wanted to see him I give him a blessing and he gets to see you also how does that Pro if you don't mind he gets through that process so I interesting you said also that they make you call them they say we're not going to call you right because they they convincing people to give kidneys have to run after yes people have to have to voluntarily on their own call up and say match and you say I want to know who the person is they don't tell you until the day they don't tell you they just told me a first name and I didn't know did you know how old he was until uh he was 39 you knew that that they tell you yeah they told me he was 39 tell you if it's a man they tell you how old he is they give you very basic details very basic details and they give you the option to meet him or you no you cannot you usually they they don't want you to meet because they don't want you to have any regrets you might you might have a regret they don't want you to meet and you know what I did I went on I went on uh on Google and I and I said you know what Ronan kidney uh need kidney TI blood o and all a sudden I found a video that he posted years prior from another organization in Israel very sneaky wow and I was very I I was petrified because there must have been something wrong with the video and his head in the video the video was choppy so he was like saying hi hi bro and I was like I'm giving a kidney to whacko called the guy I remember who was I called the guy I said this guy's not nor he's like to I promise you he's a normal guy like the video must been there was a glitch in the video know the reason why they don't want you to exactly this is the reason they don't want a chance of something happening that they get bir and they Chang their mind and by the way my mother was she was totally scared we naturally my father was like yeah go do it you're my father anyone against it no no one was against it I mean they were afraid renewal paid for my brother to come from Israel they paid his ticket to come support to be yeah of course s very very nice uh so he came he was here for a week so the day of is when you get to meet this ruin of right and then you know as as as things would have would would be at that time for 3 Days uh before the surgery we had a a a storm and all power we had no no electricity we had to actually move the hotel I don't know if you remember that in 2011 uh it was November October October yeah it was October 29th and it snowed and tree it there were still leaves on the tree on the trees all over trees started falling everywhere and power lines were down it was the most crazy time and now you where are you going my wife is like if we're not getting electricity you're not doing it like where am I going to be in a hotel and you're in in surgery what am I doing with the kids and so on and so you know it it was difficult but thank God that it came back on but that was Shabbat and the thing was uh on Thursday November 3rd you're in the hospital the first time you met what was that meeting like when you met him meeting was very emotional the meeting was very emotional we met they brought him into the room we were already in our robes and I have pictures I don't have it here I actually have it on my phone I'll find with us yeah that's okay with you yeah and I met him we hugged and we cried and I gave him a and we just shared a few moments and uh I wished him luck I said you know it should go well were were you nervous were you scared I don't think I was nervous like I said you know I was walking in thinking that I'm going to not wake up from this thing I've never been put out before so I had no idea what to expect I thought you know I was like goodbye so you didn't like do a lot of research as to what the risks are um I did did thinking soul searching no I knew I knew that I'm doing the right thing I knew that I had to two weeks to decide to actually do it and then until you did it it was like a week no you talking about from August till till November 3rd 2011 November 3rd was was the was the actual procedure exactly and I had time to think about it of course yeah but it took you very little time to say I want to do it right and like I met my wife how long did it take for me to decide to marrier that was the right thing to do and this was the right thing to do I know I'm saving a guy's life and I'm like if not for that by the way I don't know how many people actually could live for 17 years on dialysis you look at the go people maybe 10 years 12 years tops this guy did dialysis a different type of dialysis which was he was very young this guy he his whole life since he's 14 years old by the way he's been suffering from kidney disease wow uh uh he really didn't have a life was he married at the time this guy he was single and he got married a few years afterwards and um and he had a child only one child and she's four years old now cutest thing um with do you have a relationship with him now till today yeah yeah like you guys are close you stay close we we could visit each other once I mean you have a piece of yourself inside of him yeah did by the way he would not be able to get to get another transplant after that because he has he has two of his own failed then he has the cadav and then he has M he has four kidneys three three are like three little things that are not functioning in his body but the average person that gets a kidney does it do they have end do they end up having normal lives they oh they they definitely has a normal life not normal life say they can live long they can like they can live I don't know how long it lasts uh you know Michael You Know You and I by the way should both just leave this room we're terrible people we're really bad people frustrating what get yeah sure you're having straining order okay went to help somebody yeah to it's just this is wild this is like I hope you can appreciate that a lot of people listening are going to feel bad about themselves as well because I don't know if I have it in me I don't know many people have it in them I don't know I don't know if I had it in me somebody showed me something my name is Tom and it's the same if you Boggle the letters it's toim donor ah so that was very uh U you know always nice one of those do you feel any different at all they no zero zero like you have the same strength the same energy same strength same energy more energy I'm you know always positive Forward Thinking so are you at risk for anything in the future because the fact that you only have one kidney now or you have the same like your status quo as if it was before nothing really changed I mean they only told me maintain your health uh you lose weight you know keep keep fit so we're doing that thank God okay you look great thank you very much and um wow what save one life save the world right isn't that what they say save one life save the world you did that you literally did that uh a guy like this has one place to go Only Heaven I hope you be a better otherwise we're all out of luck here here your pace I'm grabbing on to his oh my God that's that's intense anyway uh um so fast forward fast forward you know so we got we got the co um there was nothing no work going back to your life story yeah yeah we're going back still we're going back we're going back I'm I'm back I'm back I'm back he's like yeah okay let's move on okay so that was my what I did yesterday let me tell you about let me tell you about tomorrow go ahead yeah came Co and there there was literally no work nothing to do we were like three weeks before PES and there's no events there's everything there's no events everybody you know all the my client that were doing their events P usually p is is is a busy time because you're doing uh uh uh you know printing for the the the programs and so on and so forth and everybody shut down and I was um was shabat I lit a candle it was 12:30 at night I lit a candle for Elia and a v one candle I never did that before and I just sat there and I said God please give me something we need we need to do something you know p is coming and I just have no means uh and then I said okay well after you pray you need to do some form of is you need to do some form of of of you know taking a step forward towards an act an act uh so I looked online at some gadgets that could be appropriate for Co I saw a a uh a pouch that would be appropriate for nursing homes or be appropriate for um uh uh landlords to give out to their tenants to give out to the to the people what what in the pouch the pouch would have your logos put on it and inside the pouch was a glove with a a kit a kit okay well they call glove a mask yeah yeah had a few things in there you know sanitizer Co kit beautiful you going have your logo on it and you could have your logo on it so that's great fine perfect I posted that first time in my life that I posted anything on a status at 1 a.m. I receive a uh response from there from a friend in Lakewood and he says to me uh toor can you get me masks and I said what kind of mask he's like you know the the blue the blue masks I said first of all I said yes of course I can because it's not going to be a no I could get you Mas and it's actually fascinating so he told me that his wife is the purchasing director for 30 nursing homes and they're desperately looking for masks how much do they need uh 350,000 masks I'm like okay so let me find out I'll get back to you in a few minutes luckily already for for over a year I've had a relationship with a uh with some lady I've never met her but her name is the sky Chen uh and in China and I was buying promotional items from her so we had a relationship so I texted her right through WeChat and she said yeah I could get you masks sent me a picture send me the price I sent it to them by the time the morning came they put the order through and I was like okay you know what maybe I should buy a little more so I bought a half a million masks and then a few other people bought for me uh uh at that time uh and the biggest challenge was how are you paying for this this cuz I didn't have any money to pay for it I needed almost 200k to Fork it that that company said they're going to put the money in escrow by Madison title uh and a very good friend stepped up to the plate and he said toer I really want to help you I don't want to make any money on this and I'm going to lend you this money I'm going to pay for the order and the good thing is that in his line of business he knows Madison title and he knows who they are and everybody just knew each other so there was a trust Factor over here and he made sure that the mask was approved and everything was good and luckily he he he took every step he was so involved in every step uh even with the shipping now how are you going to ship stuff over here I didn't even know how to ship anything two months before Co started I got a phone call from some Italian lady and she said yeah we do shipping from China I'm like I don't do shipping like this leison in China the sky lady she does all the shipping for me like I'll just meet with you I said you know what okay meet me on when are you going to be in M she's like on Friday I'm going to be in m and I was just on the way back from Brooklyn at 12:05 she called me she's like I'm in your driver I'm like I'll be there we met for a minute she gave me a business card and a pen and that was it and then that's who I used to actually bring all the goods in it was like unbelievable that Hasen already set everything up months before we had it all it was moving pieces on the chest moving the pieces and and because of our friend's involvement in knowing everything every step of the every detail to the tea uh and then my father passed away uh a few days before this shipment was supposed to come and arrive and he handled everything from there and I got a paycheck I made like 100k from that order wow it was ridiculous and then and I'll tell you I'll tell you another thing that happened so you did a lot of these types of deals we did we they then then I started the whole covid uh PPE stuff right didn't know involved during that time I was I yeah I got very involved and and uh Michael you started buying stuff for me I sold you a bunch of uh uh uh things and I don't know if you know the story but you you had a guy Yan I don't even know his last name I haven't I haven't Sav y masks maybe I have 100 people on my phone anky Mas flamy mask Ellie masks oh God go ahead anyway at at along with this shipment I decided to order 15,000 gallons and they were very cheap quality like 25 gram it was nothing it was a joke uh and you're you're a yane guy I I mentioned it to him or you mentioned it to him and and you said you're going to sell it to him for I was going to sell them for 350 each okay he's like I'll take them all we need it great and I'm happy um and then you're going to be Sur you're going to be wilded by the story because you don't even know uh and I just got up from from Shiva and a good friend of mine from Lakewood he says to me toer I heard you have uh gowns coming in uh can I buy them you I'm like no they're already sold he's like what are you selling them for I'm like 350 he's like I'll give you 650 I'm like okay uh Yani I just got offer more for these things he says to me don't don't do this to me he's like I already have it however you guys were set up already to sell it to another another a nursing home that needed him he's like you gave me your word I don't you didn't give me a deposit so we hung up he was a little upset and then I sat there and I thought I'm like I literally just got up from Shiva what would my father do and I thought deep down I went deep down to my soul and I said my father would not back he would not reneg on his word and I called yon and I told him yon it's yours wow I'm I'm forgiving for going it was it was a tremendous amount double the money and I needed it so and you know what happened a week later you ordered for me and I made more than I would have made had I sold you the the had I sold the guns to the the to the to the the additional orders exactly because you you order you didn't burn a bridge and a paay for you exactly and well it didn't take a long time to see that Co and PP was crazy that was a Madness Michael that was Madness that time and everybody was selling or buying at that point people get tested yeah that's crazy to me for me it was a t yeah gener no I no no I'm not saying this this this oh this this particular incident yeah of course how much volume did you do through PP it was a crazy amount a lot I I did a one 200,000 I mean imagine it was a little crazy by the way it didn't evade me that the puras sword was 200k and he made 100K say that sounds like a 50% margin to me that's amazing um so you did this thing during Co which probably a lot of people did and thank God I think it's amazing that the private sector got involved because the government totally dropped the ball on this nobody had anything it was wild people have to step up a Mas for the the the 3M that was ridiculous but anyway I'm saying people has to have surpris so what happens next so so what happened there over and like the printing I I just kept doing for select clients I was doing the you know servicing them because they were you know they're like we don't know where to go we don't know what to do okay fine I'll do it for you keep keep myself a little busy uh and then this was a little over two years ago and we're sitting it was Sunday morning I'm in sh and a guy turns around uh one of thep them in the faric and he says you know I've been looking for an apartment in Taria for over 3 years I just can't make up my mind I can't buy anything he's like I don't know why I can't seem to find anything I told him what's the big deal I'll find you an apartment are we getting to the real estate stuff now we are ah Hallelujah we get it Hallelujah I was waiting for that I when did this real estate ask toer business start wa for this poting and we're up to this point we made it took us two hours to get here but here we are okay by can we zoom in on you zooming on this over here could you do this there it is asker ask it's just funny like you know everything through his life you know oh need a kidney I got you yeah yeah I got you you need he's a yes man yes man he's a Yes Man lesson learned by the way literally teachable moment you know how we used to do these teachable moments teachable M be the yes be the yes guy you're missing out on life otherwise to say you're missing out on things 100% don't be no don't be negative be positive be positive always positive you're like I got you yeah so I said I I I I'll find you an apartment it was a big deal I made a phone call to a friend and he connected me with a broker over there and he showed me an apartment and the guy literally fell in love with it I was like okay what what do we do next I got a call that same day it was Sunday afternoon I got a call from a friend he tells me listen there's an attorney from Israel over here and he wants to meet with you because you're always making parties you're always making events he wants you to do like a host a home Gathering and uh meet up with him so I said okay give me his number I'm like this is great we met on Monday morning in my house and I was very I was like okay by the way I have a guy who's on the fence over here to to you know he wants to see I I found an apartment we're going to need an attorney he's like great okay I know I want to learn more about this where where could I he's like well we're doing a uh we have a an event an Israel Expo in Great Neck I can I come he's like yeah free come I went there I drove in I you know what I think we should I think I should go I think I should go I went there and I met the mortgage broker and I met the guy who could do the power of attorney and I met so many developers and over there it's like a little mini conference guys in two weeks this guy was under contract and I like hold on this was very easy and why don't I create a a a platform to help Americans buy apartments in Israel and then I started advertising it and started telling you know I started hounding guys and you know one person I'm like I'm thinking that this guy is going to be the one he's going to buy and buy you know and and it just it spiraled it spiraled and the aser brand came into existence now I used to just write ask and then toer if you want to know something ask ask to Black Ink No inspiration no nothing I was just putting out like tips on how to buy and I was suturing on the internet and so on and so forth and thank God we closed with that with that and I set him up with Airbnb so that he could make money on his uh very a purchase for $550,000 whatever it was and he he was making money he was so happy and he's still happy and he bought another apartment by the way I have a few guys that are repeat clients um for themselves they're buying yeah for the a second just to have there just to have because and they rent it out they'll rent it out real estate in Israel is always profitable is always a blessing and you can never go wrong when you're buying an apartment in Israel or a house or a v whatever it is you could never go wrong in the whole country in the whole country there's no bad parts there's no no there's no bad part there is all going up it's always going up go look in the history go Google Stephan Google did Israel's real estate ever go down no did it stabilize at some point yes is it going to continue going up yes you know how he knows he asked T yeah so this is what you're doing now full so now we're doing that fulltime I have to tell you you took your energy of asked Homer and he took his marketing background printing knowledge yeah and he went crazy crazy I'm let me tell you how crazy he went first of all show us the sign that you have behind you the as.com as.com he made this into a sticker okay this sticker that you see here aso.com I'm not I'm not kidding ring I want you to know okay all right that's enough that's enough yeah yeah put it away put it away I want you to know that I was doing at the cotel and my son looks at me and he goes ask tobert sticker on the coat Bel I'm like what are you kidding it's all over the place I was in a bathroom in kevron ast.com your name is all over the place and it's just amazing what you've been doing and how you how many apartments have you brokered in the last couple of years uh over 20 wow yeah that's amazing that's pretty good incredible yeah yeah very good how does it work if if I want to get an apartment tomorrow by a house in uh Israel is it similar to how it works over here as far as the mortgage as far as the percent you have to put that um like is is it easy to get a loan over there how does it work okay so fir first thing first thing is Identify the property are you going into a development where you would help me with that I say I want to buy a home in Israel I want to you know have a vacation home there um I don't know what to do I don't know where to get started I call you what's the first thing you do for me first thing first thing is I'll ask you do you know where you want to go no okay don't know people not know where they want to go no okay unless they knew unless the guy is like I want to go to b or I want to go to Jerusalem I know very little all right very good I bring that two three times in my life second question I'll ask i' love to get a house there one day if I'm interested what do you second question I'll ask you is what is your budget is it half a million dollars is it $2 million is it five okay you'll have guys that I had a guy I just met now on on vacation he says to me his father wants to buy a nine bedroom apartment in ravia now if you if you know what that means you're looking you're looking at $10 million by now if I could afford it let's say my Bud's good 00,000 okay so if you have 500,000 so then I I'll tell you by the way Jerusalem is a nice apartment in Gaza yeah no hold no you could you could could start somewhere either at him go if you want Jerusalem for a half a million dollars I told them you could donate it to the mirror and they'll put a plaque over the bathroom no no no I donate want Jerusalem I want in Israel somewhere yeah you tell me but I will tell you I think I'm sorry one of the questions that you need to ask is why because I want to be able to go to Israel and have my own place so you want it to be anywhere I don't know exactly so the first do you want a beach from you want to ask yourself why do you want to buy an apartment in is it an emotional buy which it 99% is in my opinion get to that you know because although the property value 100% I agree with you toer does go up in value I've done the study and invested in Israel it goes up in value Equity wise but you're not profiting on a yearly basis so it's not a great investment as far as a return on your investment in every single property you buy in Israel there are plenty of Investments that you could buy in Israel don't get me wrong but not everywhere you can't just say I want to buy an apartment in Israel let me just buy some make money so why do you want to buy an apartment in Israel I love Israel I think it's a beautiful country and I want to be able to go a little bit more you know now that I'm getting older and I want to have a place where where I can go in or around Jerusalem then right sure it doesn't have to be in or around within an hour drive to Jerusalem within minute drive to Jerusalem have a setting of where to go now we have a setting yeah exactly in an American area I'd love to have something a little bit more modernized something more Western like right right right so there projects there are definitely definitely project with American I mean I wouldn't tell you I wouldn't send you to Bish anymore I would tell you the beautiful things go further out put down a down payment there's a very popular uh development strategy that someone was buying an apartment in Israel sorry you can ask Michael also I have some answers we'll get back by the is that you know you could put 10% down and then over the course of the next two years or sometimes three as it's being developed you give up to 30% more and then you get a mortgage of 50% that's common proc okay but let's assume that I find a place and I guess you're going to start showing me pictures right you're going to start I'm not going to actually to go down there and I find a place and I like it and I say to I want to buy this okay it's there my budget it's $500,000 that's a great location house seems great I want to buy what what happens next registration form deposit registration form there's a registration form if again we're talk I'm not a citizen yeah you know you're not a citizen so you're not going through the process of uh uh a a an existing home or we're talking about a development the development you have a developer and they they need you to do a to that's the registration form you'll fill it out give us your passport give me your license uh and then I get the I get the ball rolling when just clar you're talking about a development that takes under construction under right not a purchase more let's talk about a house imediate purchase there yeah immediate purch immediate okay yeah yeah fine whatever whatever it is but let's say if it's an immediate person yes immed what I do is is uh um send your uh passport I will provide you with the attorney I will provide you with the power of attorney and the mortgage broker should you need a mortgage uh I need a mortgage yes you're going to need a mortgage very how do I get a mortgage I have no credit in Israel they don't know I'll tell you about that it's very easy um once once you uh uh sign a an an agreement we get you the uh the power of attorney the documents basically you're allowing the attorney to sign on your behalf because you're not going there great we have that they schedule a signing of the contract and you need to get a mortgage what what does it entail well you need two years of tax returns American Tax American Tax Returns the banks look at your income only they don't look at your expenses as they do over here so they just look at my income they just look at your income they don't care about how much expenses I have they don't care cuz I could be in the red I could be uh spending more than I'm earning they don't they don't they don't care they they need three months of bank statements they want to see your credit score just to see that you're a m so our credit score here matters there are they yeah they're just looking to see that you have above 650 oh okay they don't have their own credit scoring system over there they in Israel no really and and once you provide that that document I know it sounds funny like okay but it's easy to get a loan andards here in America are much uh uh uh greater than the the Israelis so the Israelis are struggling to get a mortgage what what type of percent is the bank offering the bank gives you by default 50% it's easy you'll get 50% they give me 50% 50% more so you have to put down 50 if you that means you're putting down yeah yeah yeah okay and you got to you got to understand why the banks are a little more Le amount that I'm putting down exactly the reason why they're a little more lenient there's a few reasons why I think they're a little more lenient and 10 20% over it's 50 % you put down you'll tell me what you think about this um thought process because I thought about this a lot the reason why they're more lenient about approving you for a loan is because a they're only giving you 50% there are ways to yeah there are ways to get an extra 10 or an extra 20 as a secondary mortgage that's number one number two is they know the value in Israel keeps going up so they know the equity leverage on the profit need to take it back they also don't have American rules where if you don't pay your mortgage you're at it's not New York City you get a tenant out in like 19 years exactly and and the lastly is interestingly enough everyone has to take a life insurance policy right a mortgage insurance mortgage insurance that means the guy croaks and the bank is like okay well we we're we're going to cover they don't have problems with trusts and challenges with you know family fight what kind of interest rates is going on over there in Israel 5% 6% depending on the time here very similar yeah a little bit lower actually lower year now yeah and um and you you get approved in like three four days it's like that you're done you get the approval we got the process going uh we give the power of attorney to the to the mortgage guy we give the power attorney to the attorney he signs on your thing and obviously we have to transfer funds to Israel so we use uh Forex uh uh system to transfer the funds and uh we simplified nice the whole what's the this place right now in Israel where are the young people going the Gaza what's with this Gaza business Mike that's awesome you and Trump trying to you trying to get Gaza going over there yeah but it's going to take some time but before then you've got the young couples are going to uh uh first of all hottest place yeah y Tel Aviv for the the non-religious you have Tel Aviv the religions you have well Tel Aviv is one of the most expensive real estates in the world by the way top 10 yeah yeah okay so not everybody's going to tell we're not going to tell's like the Practical places up the Practical places uh uh would the affordable places would be in Bish that would be your first choice to go after how far is that from Jerusalem 25 minutes roughly okay okay and then they're surrounding neighborhoods and areas that uh even 20 minutes from uh from bmes you have a place called carat for 450 500 600 you get a beautiful apartment uh in an all Ango area you know or you go a little up north yeah definitely 20 minutes to 30 minutes away from Jerusalem the prices go down I think if you want to educate the listeners it'll be a fun fact of how it works per square meter so you have the pricing per square meter generally an apartment which is a 100 square meters think of it as a th000 square fet as an apartment right so it's a two-bedroom apartment 100 square meters right right so uh the price per square meter in Jerusalem is 45 to 75,000 go go up a little go up to 90 well maybe on new developments you mean yeah on new that's scary by the way so high but um it's very expensive and when you go 20 30 minutes out it's half that so you you know there's a tremendous advantage of going 20 minutes out if you're okay with that I personally so if I'm the average you know middle-aged American kind of comfortable here but you are the average of those both those things are true um do you recommend that uh we start looking seriously into buying is like what's the benefit like sell me on it what do you tell the typical person like you got to buy a house or an apartment Israel and here's why so one thing is I I I never go with the tactic of oh my gosh America is going to blow up and you have to have a place to run please don't because you lose me if you do that exactly um you're buying because you have a lot of the land and you're buying because there's also a Mitzvah toy and I know you might say oh there's other Mitzvah I haven't done yet okay fine is that true it's a Mitzvah to buy property in Israel yesu it's one of the 613 Commandments is yeah I don't know if it's one of the 613 no it's when there's maybe when there's the mdash well there the Mitzvah are taking steps in Israel even I mean so that in itself is I want 613 but of and you're GNA you're going to want to have a part and a piece of the land then you have the Skeptics and they'll tell you oh you know they're going to be giving away all the land when Messiah comes and I'll wait for messiah to come you have not paying your mortgage number one and in my humble opinion when comes trip exactly people for mhia to come I'll wait for that that doesn't make because like if Mia just giving away properties like what about the people that already own over there like they lose their houses exactly they lose their houses add up and and then and then what about and then you have those guys and then I had he tells me uh uh you know remember you want to start a mashiah fund when when mashiah comes where are you going to have money to pay for all the people that are getting up they going to need clothing they need food okay so I had one guy he says to me um you know what what's going to happen with RI styman when he gets up and and rim kki they got up they're going to need they're going to need a house because they sold their house already it's not existing so I own Fire Apartments they're going to tell me oh well sorry sir you're going to have to give one apartment to the rabbi and I'm not going to give the rabbi so I'm gonna lose thank you give the rabbi you you know I don't know I don't know I don't know if I'm giving away my apartment to a rabbi I'm struggling with life here real not worried about what's going to happen after the fact I think I said it earlier it's a very emotional Buy in general you're connected to the country the holy land and believe in the process of of the Mitzvah and and waiting for mashia why wait you know uh you know let's and I met a guy on a plane and I said to him uh would you uh want to consider you know would you consider buying an apartment he's like I'm about to sign the fifth contract already wow I have four apartments and bu he's doing it as investment at this point I think I think the message I would like to say is that you have to be able to afford it obviously and you have to be able to afford to not make money on that apartment it's not something that like you know say is ask Tom come ask to.com to we're we're gonna wrap it we're gonna wrap we got wrap up in uh in in just a second you know um we we have a tradition of going through a lightning round but I I will tell you that I think that this entire podcast was a lightning round and everything you said and so much we learned and it was so beautiful so just going to end with asking you honestly who would you recommend as a good guest on the podcast and I have to ask you Rabbi Mansour I mean you mentioned his name a few times and he he he is he is our family Rabbi he is my Rabbi he is my role model am I allowed to offer someone up for you is that something that's normal I mean like I don't know is she can I do that I don't know if that's in the rules of the noneof your business podcast the rules are what we make them to be I want you to get R by my on thec that's the rules I think it would be fantastic dict on to but I I I could bring another student of his on here um and I I'd love to call him who's that his name is meer safdi okay and he has an organization called care care for special children okay uh autistic children and his um he opened up the organization him and his wife they have two autistic children and they uh struggled with them for years not knowing which schools to put them through and what benefits they could get from the government and um he uh opened up that organization to help other parents enough said get him on the phone get him on the phone yeah I love it well Meer how are you it's nice to meet you we asked Homer after the uh after the podcast like we asked all of our guests who's someone that you would recommend that would benefit and that we can grow with and can share their story and he mentioned you so it's nice to meet you first of all I understand that you're on vacation yes we're on vacation the first thing that I love that you said you said you ask toare ask to you started off with the right words you ask to so you're one for one off the back um second of all I actually I've I've met several times with I guess it's your brother David yes uh we've met several times barash is a great guy he's a very Gifted Man and uh um you know I'm grateful to to know him so uh yeah and uh toer is a good friend and he recommended that we speak so yeah we're we're on board and uh and I appreciate the call wow that's amazing okay so we're going to schedu it when you get back and we're sorry to bother you on vacation but it's really nice to speak with you not a worry I appreciate it thank you so much and continue your great work I appreciate it thank you all the best great wow what a guy all right everybody don't forget to like subscribe comment get involved we are sponsored by the Serenity Center in Rockland County therapy is a real thing and it's recommended to everyone especially if you don't have to pay for it and insurance covers it that's amazing wow and thank you again of course to the prime source uction team for doing such a fantastic job Stefan will Kim Skyler everybody on the team you guys are amazing that's a WAP have a great day everybody Michael wait wait wait wait wait what happened whated Michael you are a people's person yeah you asked me to find you a guy to come to your podcast I'm asking you to call someone now and tell them I want you to buy an apartment you are going to make the best decision of your life look at this guy I love him I love it I love it that's what you need that is 100% what you love an apartment all right fantastic who one I have a guy for you ushi noiss here I'd like that to be taken home please okay but um not at the moment but in the very near future I think I'm done with thisit that out exactly have a nice day all right