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>> Hello and welcome to the Israel Guys
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welcome back to the podcast on a
Thursday, February 19th. Happy to have
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is your first time watching or
listening. Always happy to have you
here. Here with Joshua Waller, Ari
Abramowitz, Jeremy Gimpel. Um I I
figured, you know, it's always tough to
know how to start an hour-long podcast
and I just I wanted to read Ari's
comment from Tuesday this week to start
things off
>> [laughter]
>> cuz it feels like it represents where
the world's at right now. I didn't tell
you I was going to do this, Ari, but uh
uh you you sent a a one of the many news
headlines from this week and it was it
was from war room
>> group. We aggregate ideas for the show.
>> ideas for the show. And it it basically
says Chinese and Russian warships have
reportedly been dispatched to the Strait
of Hormuz for maritime exercises. This
could escalate fast. I checked, that is
indeed true. Um but your comment
afterwards was, "This is it, gentlemen.
This is leading up to Hashem's great
day. Mark my words."
Well, I just want to make something
clear. This morning at 5:00 a.m. I
>> about to ask you to tell this. Yeah. I
have an intercom between me and my kids'
room so I can hear them if if they wake
up and then I started hearing beep beep
beep, which means that it's no longer
connected, which means there's no
electricity and I look out the window
and the entire region of southeastern
Judea is without electricity. So, I'm
thinking
this could be it. This could be it. Now,
I'm not the only apocalyptic alarmist in
Judea and so I reached out to some
friends and someone's like, "The war has
begun."
So, I jump out of bed. The reason I'm
wearing like this, you see I have my my
army uniform on cuz I got my my my whole
uniform on. I got my weapon ready, my
vest ready, the safe room ready. I'm
preparing everything and then I was
like, "Wait a second. It's that guy?
That guy said" and I said, "What do you
mean?" He's like, "Yeah, the war's
begun. There There's fires in Tehran
right now. There's more than one way to
fight a war in 2026." I'm like, "Okay.
Don't conflate your speculation with
fact. Look what you just did to me. I'm
totally mobilized based on this guy."
The point is though
>> [snorts]
>> that it's very plausible. We're We're in
the the days leading up to that. And for
people who are like writing messages
saying, "Listen, though America's going
to smoke Iran." I'm not so sure that
it's just going to be like it was last
time. Meaning China, Russia, they're
ready. We've spoken about this on the
show. Like they're this they're they're
they have their military assets under
the guise of maritime
military exercises, but they're really
just making sure that it's mobilized
there. And also, if they're in that
region and there is some sort of fallout
where their ships get accidentally
attacked or intentionally attacked by
them, even they have now a pretext to
enter this war. We're talking about a
big thing happening here. We're on the
cusp Am I wrong? Well, I mean I I've
heard about a EMP over America and and
knocking out all the power, right? And
you talked about that on Fox News like
12, 15 years ago. And you reached
millions of people through that. Um
you never talked about an EMP over
Israel.
That's what basically what you were
thinking happened this morning when your
power was out. No, no, no. I just
remember that
up to this point when Iran was always
attacks military infrastructure.
>> Yeah. Or uh you know, electrical
infrastructure for the country. That's
They're aimed at that also. In addition
to like civilian spots, they're aimed at
that.
>> see that as a threat for Israel? Well, I
It's not that it couldn't be a threat. I
just don't see that happening or playing
out. I don't. But you know, on the last
show I started one of my ADHD sentences
saying, you know, "Tuna has mercury.
That's why I sort of I'm I'm getting
more and more sardines." And then And
see that one of our great listeners,
Chuck, who I'm very grateful for, he
just gave me an entire box
of sardines. This is waiting on my table
for me. So, I didn't mention that also
leading up to these days, we need to
hoard gold.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, before we get too far down the
down the apocalyptic conspiracy rabbit
hole, just a you know, you guys there's
a reason that Jeremy and I sit on this
side of the table and Josh and Ari sit
on that side. So, I I want to bring it
back to this side of the table. Maybe
Jeremy, you could tell us what what you
were doing when Ari was preparing for
war this morning. I read that the US is
sending the greatest amount of air power
since 2003 to the region. I'm like,
"Wow, the greatest amount of air power,
like enough planes to really create
chaos." And then I went to bed and slept
until the morning.
Yeah.
>> Well, I mean, just in Jeremy's defense,
when we were actually truly under
assault by massive swath of
intercontinental ballistic missiles that
were detonating with what felt like
nuclear blast in the atmosphere right
over Israel, with missiles landing in
our region, literally falling from the
sky, he had the same response. Yeah,
>> [laughter]
>> literally the same.
>> Which I'm not bashing him for.
On one level, that is a sign of great
faith and trust. And on the other level,
it's just a
Yeah, I was like, we didn't have a bomb
shelter back then, so I was like,
"You might as well die in the open, you
know, so and see the show."
But uh But I never went into the bomb
shelter, but I would put my family into
the bomb shelter, and then I was always
patrolling and protecting the area. So,
there's a reason I wasn't there.
Um So, just just to tell you guys what
we're not going to talk about today. And
we're not going to spend the whole show
talking about how the US is gathering
the most air power in the Middle East
since 2003, or that Reuters is reporting
all US military forces participating in
the ongoing Middle East build-up are
expected to be fully deployed and
operational by mid-March. That's
according to a senior US official by
cited by Reuters.
Um In the last 24 hours Israel's home
front command has been instructed to
prepare for war. High-level defensive
alert has been declared.
Israel's raised its alert readiness in
the last 24 hours.
And it yeah, the US has like 50 Axios is
reporting more than 50 US fighter jets
in the have been moved into the Middle
East I think in the last 24-48 hours. So
anyways,
all that to say is like the news last
night to this morning was vastly
different and then by the time you guys
watch or listen to the show it'll be a
different again.
Um
CBS is saying the US could strike Iran
by this weekend or it could be
mid-March. So
we're going to talk about something
different and that is
yeah,
much more important war I think we could
say. You guys have seen the headlines
Tucker Carlson
came to Israel or did he come to Israel
because he landed the airport took a
photo and left again.
Just stayed just long enough to claim
that he was thrown into an interrogation
room and had his passport taken away.
Which turns out to be another one of his
epic lies that he is so fond of telling
now.
And then while he was here as he was
leaving on his private airplane he
posted in two-hour interview which Josh
so
sacrificially watched this morning so
that we can share the highlights with
you guys. But
that that follows in the wake of
Marjorie Taylor Green just spouting
incredible lies straight from the heart
of Bethlehem
this week cuz apparently she went there.
But it it feels like the lies are so
grotesque and the propaganda so
massive that at some point we can't
ignore it and and
you know for two Jewish rabbis who live
in Judea and two Christian Zionists who
are based in Samaria and right now we
have like 50 Christians volunteering in
Israel's heartland.
This you know people have been reaching
out to us like, you guys have to
respond. You have to respond cuz we're
Christian Zionists and we're in Israel
and we're on the front lines and we know
what's actually happening and, um, I
think,
you know, we have been responding and
we've been doing our best. Josh was
actually in Taybeh yesterday, yeah,
which is the only, one of the only, I
think it's the only all Christian
village in Israel. And you know,
>> In Israel and and, uh, even across the
Middle East there's not so many of
those. So, that's a it's a pretty big
deal. Josh, Josh and Justin were, uh,
kind of undercover in Taybeh yesterday.
That'll be a separate show coming out.
But, this bears addressing. Um, it it's
it's important. And I just want to
clarify, I think we're past the point of
dancing around like the the propaganda
and spinning narratives. Like, I I feel
like it's time to just say the truth for
what it is. Tucker Carlson's a liar and
he's a coward. Uh, and like, I don't
know how he thought that was going to go
well for him to pretend to agree to
Dave, uh, Mike Huckabee's,
uh, calling him out in public of of
talking to him, say, "Yeah, okay, we'll
we'll come to Israel for an interview."
Landing his private plane at the VIP
terminal in Ben Gurion. Refusing to
leave the airport complex. Mike Huckabee
was gracious enough to come to the
airport, sit down for an interview. We
don't even We haven't even seen that yet
and literally took off again.
Well, when you say, "I don't know how he
thought that would play out well for
him." Uh, you did send to our little
WhatsApp group a link with Tucker
Carlson's face and it said 45% of young
Republicans see Jews as a threat. It is
working out well for him. Yeah. He's a
huge, massive part of this very
significant ideological, religious, and
spiritual shift of the entire right-wing
conservative part of America, shifting
the entire trajectory of US history.
Okay, so he's having a real impact. So,
we could try to minimize that, but he's
he is
doing well for himself here. What I
realized uh, in these last two days for
me have been really kind of
awakening where I'm I'm I understand
Christianity in a different way and I
have to say that I ever have before
where
I thought just in general growing up as
a sixth generation farmer in Tennessee
that I thought most Christians just were
kind of uh
they loved the Jewish people, they loved
the the biblical story. There was um
you know, just understood that the
Jewish people were God's chosen people.
Genesis 12, simple faith and just
believing that Israel is Israel, the
Jewish people are people of Israel. What
I've seen over the last two days is
there's a vast amount of Christianity
that are no friend of the Jews, that are
actually enemies of the Jews in a much
bigger way than I ever thought meaning
they're actually more aligned with
radical Islam against the Jews in their
Christianity. I'm appalled by that. I
mean, literally, I'm appalled by that. I
didn't think that that's how
vicious the Christian community was
against Israel and the Jewish people.
Like relating them to Muslim the the
jihad against Israel. But yet
yesterday specifically and are you a
little bit pushed back by that? I'm I'm
not really uh
>> do
go ahead, Jeremy. To me, the window of
Christian love for Israel and the Jewish
people is really a small window. That's
just a few decades, maybe since 1967
since the Jews really came back to
Jerusalem and the prophecy started
unfolding, maybe 1948. But from I don't
know, the destruction of the temple
until about 1948, the vast majority of
Christians were always our enemy. That's
just the way it's been.
>> Yeah, I just want to elaborate. I'm
sorry, did I interrupt you? Okay,
I would even take it a little bit
earlier than that to the early return of
the you know, the early 1900s, late
1800s, the Bilu pioneers that were
coming back and draining the swamps. But
that's pretty much it. Me, Nate, I agree
with you in the essence of your argument
and also the argument of someone like
Nick Fuentes. So, it says this whole
idea of Judeo-Christian blah blah
Judeo-Christian Judeo-Christian if this
is a real a relatively new phenomenon.
Most of history has been Cossacks,
pogroms, Holocausts, and Inquisitions.
Okay, and so now
>> in alignment with radical Islam. That's
what they they're also they have the
view. The problem is is that I don't see
the the Christians that I'm that I'm
encountering here, the Tucker Carlson
Christians and the Christians of Taibeh.
I'll just say exactly where I was with a
father Jack yesterday and trying to
understand. I went with a to understand,
okay, what are what is happening with
the Christians in Israel? Now they're
outside of the Israel's jurisdiction.
They're under the Palestinian Authority,
but never nevertheless they're still
using that as a as a tool against
Israel. They're saying Israel's the
problem and and they have no problem
[clears throat] with their Islamic
neighbors and they believe that their
Islamic neighbors are actually the
solution and not the problem and
Israel's the problem not the solution.
Um, so I guess just to put it in context
I went yesterday
uh to the village of Taibeh. It's the
only 100% you know, Christian village
and we interviewed the the priest there
for about an hour and a half just
talking to him and then I went walked
all around the streets and we talked to
people and all of this is going to come
out in a adventure got that out of
>> Got the police. The PA police called on
you.
>> PA police the Christian PA police
officer called on us and
>> Did that make you a little bit nervous?
>> Wait, did he say anything? It's a joke.
Yeah, he's a Christian. He's like a
Taibeh police officer.
I should have asked him I said I should
ask him why he didn't arrest the Arab
Muslims that were throwing rocks at
Jesus's statue down in the the city city
hall there.
>> just caveat what you just said?
>> guns, you know, and they're trying to
intimidate
>> may not know is that I looked this up.
Taibeh is part majority area C
and then a small area area B, which
means that the PA police have no
authority in Taibeh. Right. Right. Um,
in other words, he was not really
allowed to actually come up to you and
tell you you can't film or whatever he
said.
>> Right. Well, here's my biggest thing
that I want to address with everybody is
is that there is a Christianity
that fights Jews
is a against the biblical narrative of
the Jewish people returning. I literally
asked the priest this straightforwardly.
I said, you know, do you do you do you
not see Genesis 12 and the promise to
these people of Israel and the state of
Israel as as a and the fulfillment of
biblical prophecy in Isaiah and Jeremiah
and Ezekiel and Joel.
What do you do with these things? And
and
he he said
straight out
the Jews aren't the real Jews.
We're the people of the promise coming
back to the land.
The as the Christians have taken that
promise
and and then I understood something
crazy to me.
Those people
are enemies of the state of Israel.
And they call themselves Christians and
but yet they're enemies of the state of
Israel. They hate Bibi Netanyahu. They
said, we don't hate anybody and then
they go on to talk about how they hate
literally hate the state of Israel.
>> Josh, it's worse than that. It's not
that they're just enemies of the state
of Israel. They're really enemies of the
Jewish people. They don't recognize us
as Jews and we're we meaning the
alignment between Islam and this form of
kind of the the Catholic Church hatred
of Israel is replacement theology.
That's really what it boils down to.
They both believe that they've replaced
Israel. There is no more Israel. God's
promises to Israel have somehow
transferred to someone else. And so the
Bible can't be referring to us. And so
that's why they hate Israel so much
because we are a living manifestation of
the truth. We are just reality and the
Bible when they come together is
manifesting before our eyes and they
can't handle that. So they just see with
hatred saying, what? All of the promises
of the Bible are actually coming to pass
for the Jews, but we replaced the Jews.
And the more we're hated, the more we're
persecuted, the more it proves that Jew
hatred is true. Meaning the more
>> [laughter]
>> it's like if we've been replaced, then
the more we are degraded, demoralized,
persecuted, then it it proves their fake
theology to be true. Right, but okay,
but it also I have to say that you
and Hayovel were tremendous inspiration
for me, not only in general in life and
but also this past Shabbat Mhm. you
brought Joel Salatin to my home. Did I
pronounce that correctly?
>> Salatin. Salatin. And he was sitting at
my Shabbat table and just I'm not going
to get into my whole like man crush on
Joel and just what an a righteous,
humble man he is, but he was literally
brought to tears with that he felt such
a merit that he can bring his unique
skill set just like Jethro did Mhm. to
bless Israel and the Jewish people. He
can command a big, you know, honorarium.
He can make a lot of money just from the
love and the kindness of his his love
for God and for what he says God's
people and and then I contrast that with
the vicious hatred and it just seems
like the love is getting stronger and
more powerful and the hatred this is
just a time of refinement where the
confusion it's like that moment when
Elijah said, "How long are you going to
stand with both on both side? You can't
be on both sides." Right after he said
to the people to the priests of Baal,
"Why don't you go ask your God Chemosh?"
Meaning he said, "Your God Chemosh." It
doesn't mean he believed in Chemosh.
Right. Okay, right reference to the last
show for those people who wanted to
>> that. I needed to clarify
>> [laughter]
>> You stirred up some things online, you
should Yes, yes, I know, I know that was
fun. But anyways, so it's just
interesting to see that there are the
the righteous remnant is be being
clarified. These are times of refinement
and clarification and every person has
the ability to decide where they're
going to fall out and what role they're
going to play in these in this unfolding
redemption.
>> I think that's the real point. The
righteous remnant are being refined out
and the truth is when you think about it
there've been one There's like one
alliance that's been formed between
Israel and another large group, and it
has been this like Christian Zionist
world. And it's now in It's It's under
attack now. There's no question about
it. They're like, "Oh, these are the one
supporters of Israel. Let's just chip
away at that. Let's chip away." And
they're like targeting these Christian
Zionists. And that's a truly a part of
God's plan because it's not meant to be
a giant movement of people that are just
kind of with slogans supporting Israel
because they're cute slogans. Or, you
know, if you bless Israel, you'll be
blessed. Well, that'll now be
questioned. Well, what does that really
mean? And it will sort of throw people
off, and the righteous remnant will be
sort of pulled out, refined like silver
and gold. And like whatever needs to
fall into the sideway will fall into the
side. One of the biggest things that I
that I just baffles me. Like there's
some things that make sense and there's
you know, they they get these arguments
and they twist words and they they make
things. But when I looked at that priest
yesterday and I said, "Can you help me
with something?"
I said, "I don't I don't understand
something here."
I said, "Um obviously around the world,
look at what's going on to the
Christians in Syria under the Islamic
regime there and and you know, where
there was 2 million Christians in 2011
and now today there's like three less
than 350,000. They've just been
massacred or fled. And um under Islam
and everybody
>> across the Middle East. Well, yeah,
across the Middle East. Not that Syria
is probably the the most extreme
circumstance of the Islamic rule over
Christians that there is in the Middle
East. But every single Middle Eastern
country is seeing a decline in Christian
Christian population. Every
>> Every single one except Israel. And and
I got to clarify here because our all of
our listeners are are really uh they're
they're deep thinkers here. When Tucker
Carlson said that the the the the uh
the popula the Christians are declining
in Israel, that's not true at face
value. You know what he did? It's very
It's very um
uh genius of him.
And he even said it when he said that
remark, he said, "According to the
national average."
Okay. Meaning the percentage of the
>> percentage of the population is lesser.
So in 1949
>> I have the numbers here. the percentage
of Christians were here were only 2.9%.
>> Yeah, I think it was 2.9%.
>> Okay, so So in 1949 there was 34,000
Christians in Israel. Today there's
185,000.
So it's not growth.
>> do the math on what percentage increase
that is, but in 1949 Christians made up
10% of the population and today they're
2%.
That's not the figures that I had on on
uh the stats from uh from the Israeli
>> to the Central Central Bureau Bureau of
Statistics from December 2025. No, but
but no, your point is correct.
>> the national average, there's lesser.
>> but I thought it was like 2. uh
uh 9% of the population and today it's
1. uh 7 or something percent of the
population. It That those are the
figures I saw.
>> in 1949 like there was nobody in Israel.
Like there there was like what? A couple
hundred thousand people.
>> 600,000 people.
>> whatever, you know, number 34,000
Christians made up a good percentage of
the people in Israel. Today there's 185,
but there's 10 million people.
>> in the that's the the my point is is
that he's took these national average.
What he didn't say is is that Jews fled
from all the Arab countries in this same
time period. Period. Christians were not
fleeing from these Arab countries at
that time period. Jews were. And Jews
fled from the whole planet. World War II
um was going on. All of these things.
They fled back to Israel. And so you
have 6 million Jews coming back to the
land of Israel, nearly 7 million now, um
coming back to the land of Israel.
Obviously could This is not the safe
haven for Christians in the world.
And so he's balancing that up against
and so obviously it's the figures are
off. He's not being But on a deeper
level, there's a deeper truth to what
he's saying. Yeah. And I'll tell you
what I mean. The uh Oslo Accords,
Bethlehem was given over to the
Palestinian Authority. Before that, when
Israel was in charge of Bethlehem,
Bethlehem was 80% Christian, 20% Muslim.
After the Oslo Accords, within uh months
or just very very few
>> the exact figures.
>> 20%.
>> from 85% in 1994 to the Oslo Accords
being established and put in 1995 down
to 35% in 1 year. Today it's only 10%.
So, just exactly. I didn't I thought I
thought it was 80% to the other 80%.
>> in 1 year of the Oslo Accords and which
means the Palestinian Authority, the
Arab rule, meaning Arabs ruling over
Christians, it immediately the
Christians fled or were killed.
>> Yeah, they fled to countries all around
the and I years ago I spent I did a
little mini project calling some of
these Christians in different countries
and speaking with them about what
happened and they fled because of
Islamic terror that there was just
destroying all of Bethlehem and
murdering people.
>> more than that? In Gaza, there was 5,000
Christians that lived in Gaza before
Israel pulled out. That that was just
the people that were there under the
Israeli rule of getting of course Israel
wasn't even really ruling. It was like a
it was still under Arab but just having
Israeli presence in Gaza before 2005.
You know what today? There's only 1,000
left. Israel pulls out, it's automatic
what happens. In Taybeh, where I was
yesterday, the same exact story. There
are 300, it's just a small village, 300
empty homes. There's 15,000 residents of
Taybeh, only 50 yeah, people people that
are from there.
Only 1,200 live there today. They fled.
There's videos. I I told I said I said I
told the priest and this is what
baffles my mind. I told the priest I
said
So, you're telling me that Israel's the
problem.
You're
Israel's like no other place. Well, he
calls it Palestine. He also referred to
1948 as the Nakba and uh Which means the
the disaster catastrophe catastrophe And
I told him I said, but I don't
understand how you feel secure under the
Palestinian Authority. I said I just saw
a video that came out a few months ago
of of
terrorist
Muslims running down your streets here
with guns shooting in the air and uh
rocks at the statue of Jesus down at the
down here that you have in your village.
And he says, "No, no, no, my friend.
It's all in That's He didn't He didn't
deny that it didn't happen. He said,
"It's just a little internal thing with
between us." Right. And I said, "What
about the time when the when the
one of your boys here, Christian boys,
married a Muslim girl?"
And the Muslims came and burned down his
house. I don't even know I don't know if
he survived it or not, but
I said, "What happened then?"
I said, "You don't you don't feel like
that that wasn't threatening to the
community? That That wouldn't be the
reason why everybody left?"
No, no, no, no, no. That's just all an
internal It's all internal. He literally
said it. His hatred was was for Israel
was more
than his than the obvious answer to the
question.
Radical Islam is no place for anyone but
Islamist. Okay, but let me get back to
what I was saying. About the truth, the
deeper truth. I think that's part of
what we're here to do on the show, not
just to report the news, but to do it
from a prism of of truth and honesty and
biblical
sanctity, okay? And so, from a Jewish
perspective, the temple was destroyed
not because of the Babylonians, not
because of the Romans. When we sit down
on the 9th of Av and we mourn and and we
we we weep, we're we're constantly
saying the real reason, because of our
sins. Our sins. Part of redemption that
is unfolding right now is the Jews
finally taking responsibility. And so,
we have to own what we have to own. So,
we could be like, "Oh, no, it's because
of the Arabs taking over Bethlehem." But
why did they take over Bethlehem?
Because we made a covenant Yeah. with
the people in the land and the Bible
tells us, "God will return you to the
land. He will give you the land in a
miraculous fashion, and do not make a
covenant with them. They will be thorns
in your eyes. Do not do so." We see all
the way back to the book of Joshua, when
the the Jews right after the the victory
against that the the village of Ai,
right? The the Then, all of a sudden
they got a little bit cocky, a little
bit excited, a little bit while we're
being recognized and they struck a
covenant with the Gibeonites.
With who were Canaanites in the land and
they didn't investigate fully and that
is part of the Jewish Achilles heel. We
want peace in the world, we want a
global unity. But God says we're
supposed to rectify the world that can
be my God with his kingdom. With his
will and not to strike covenants. So in
that way Tucker's right.
It is our fault. Yes, the Muslims are
persecuting and viciously uh terrorizing
Christians throughout the entire Middle
East in the world. Totally. But we are
not doing what we need to do. That's all
I want to say.
>> No, the bottom line is it's really if is
our God-given land then we need to take
responsibility for everything within the
land. What Israel was defending the Jews
in Syria, I took great pride in that. I
was like, "Wow, that's out of our
political borders but we see something
that's so unjust that's happening. And
now the Jews are begging for Israel to
annex parts of Syria into Israel and let
them be a part of like what we're
building here. And the same thing is
happening in Taibe. The reason why
they're sort of turning on Israel is cuz
they don't feel like they can rely on
Israel and they're now left alone
dealing with the Palestinian Authority.
Though they don't want to badmouth the
Muslims cuz the Muslims will come and
murder them. So they're just always like
walking this this like that's what I
always
>> thought.
I always thought that.
Yesterday I
think it's more than that. It's deeper
than that. Well, that's what
>> alignment
>> with the Muslims. I always thought and
that's what I was trying to do. I was
trying to go to somebody on the street
and be like we were trying to get
someone, say, "Hey, listen, we'll blur
your face, we'll blur your voice, we'll
do everything we can."
I've not found a I made calls to people.
No one is willing
>> important for our audience to know, too.
>> They're not. If you're Arab in in Judea
and Samaria like we cannot people will
not be on camera with us. And the The
only time we do get people on camera is
if they don't know who we are. Like the
priest you interviewed yesterday.
>> Yeah, because you should tell people.
You also went back to the other priest
>> Oh, he that appeared that we did
interview last year, that appeared in
Israel Guys Show and he slammed the door
in your face.
>> Right. And he called the police on me.
Um so
there's
I would like to think cuz the common
sense thing would be
to me it's the same thing that's
happening with the woke right.
Woke right, do you not get it? I mean
woke left. Um that well well maybe
>> And the woke
maybe they're all doing it together now.
By the way, they are
>> woke
>> Tucker Carlson and Cenk Uygur. Yeah, I'm
like what are you doing together?
>> It's the same with these Christians and
it doesn't make any sense in the world
because after the after the Muslims say
when if you know, in their mind they're
going to defeat the the Western world.
Well, what are the what are these
lefties and woke people doing?
They're just going to kill them
afterwards.
The same exact logic is going on the
heads of these Christians
throughout Israel that are actually the
majority of the Christians in Israel,
unfortunately are these kind of Taibbi
version Christians.
Uh the vast majority of the of the
Christians in Israel are the
uh Arab Christians in this mindset and
they're actually more aligned with Islam
than they are the state of Israel. And
it's deeper and I always thought before
that it was a survival mechanism.
But I believe it's more than that now.
There may be a handful of them that are
trying to survive.
But more than that, I got the feeling
yesterday that I was wrong. And cuz
that's the obvious approach would be
what you just said, Jeremy.
Obvious Of course, they're trying to
survive and they got these hostile
neighbors. No, they hate Israel more
than that. I I actually believe that's
what changed yesterday for me to
understand. They actually hate the state
of Israel
more than even their own life. Meaning
they're willing to link up with the
radical Islamist
to to fight Israel and to be the one of
the biggest voices of delegitimization
to the state of Israel than they are to
their own it's to [clears throat] their
detriment.
I told the priest, do you not
understand? Israel could take
sovereignty over this area, right? And
you would be a you your your your beer
festival that you hold here in Taybeh
could be a
Israelis would love to come here. They'd
love to be a part of this this you know,
your festive ancient traditions. And
this could be a Christian thing that
could be protected. You wouldn't have
people you know, throwing stones and
tearing down your you know, attacking
your Jesus
statues and stuff.
I said the Christian population in
Israel has doubled since 1970.
Christians are doing just fine in Israel
proper. They're protected. They have
their freedoms. Um the worst thing
Tucker Carlson Carlson can say about him
is that they got spit at sometimes.
Nobody's killing them and they're not
burning their houses down for marrying
someone outside of that and they're not
they're not that's what these guys are
saying. They're not fleeing the country
because of
radical Islamist persecutions against
them, but they hate Israel more. They
hate this what's happening to Jews.
Their fight is aligned with radical
Islam and that's what really
that's a kind of a big wake up to me
because I think most of the Christian
world even the Tucker Carlson world is
aligned with that as well.
Their hatred of Zionism, the Jewish
people, the promise, the covenant,
Genesis 12.
Everything has to be spiritualized. It's
it's no more
you know, the Jews is not the real Jews.
The promises aren't the real promises.
It's all in the sky. It's all fake. It's
all and that's how they've now created
another religion that removes Jews out
of the way and now they're in um
Josh, can we talk about
Bethlehem for a second before you get
farther in the Tucker Carlson interview?
Yeah. Uh I think it bears mentioning
because this is kind of like the two big
high-profile people that were in Israel.
Well, one was in Israel, one was in the
airport. Uh but Marjorie Taylor Greene
went to Bethlehem this week, made some
waves and I just want to read you what
she wrote about her visit cuz she met
with the mayor of Bethlehem
and she said, he told me, quote, he told
me about Christian persecution happening
in Bethlehem and also in Gaza and the
West Bank. Christians have been killed
in the bombings in Gaza and churches
have been attacked. Others have told me
this as well and I've seen videos
online. I I feel like that's like the
greatest line ever to prove of to show
how much evidence you have or something.
Uh and she says
the mayor says they only want to live in
peace alongside their Jewish and Muslim
neighbors in their homes that they
legally own, yet the settlers continue
to take their homes. There are
approximately 139 IDF checkpoints now in
Bethlehem which one was 41 square miles
once was 41
That part didn't make sense misspelling.
I think she misspelled something. But
now it's been reduced to 7 square miles.
Uh and then she goes on. She says, "What
is the Holy Land without Christians?"
So,
Bethlehem is your backyard basically.
And if you if you don't you've never
been to Israel, you don't live here, and
all you watch is Tucker Carlson and
people like this, Candace Owens,
Marjorie Taylor Greene, like what did
she leave out? I would say the biggest
thing she left out
is that if you want to go to Bethlehem
as a Jew or an Israeli, you can't.
You're not allowed.
Number one, you're not allowed, and two,
you would be stoned to death if you did
go to Bethlehem. Or just shot. They got
plenty of
>> Or shot, yeah.
Um like
I don't know. That's a kind of important
fact
>> There's about 22 terrorist organizations
working inside of Bethlehem now. Now
that Israel's you know, pulled out.
That's that's what they have for that.
>> know, because when Oslo was implemented,
Israel allowed themselves to be violated
and invaded by Western projection that
was really intended in a very cynical
way to undermine the Jewish claim and
connection to Judea. And they put these
signs, these massive red signs that you
see until this very day when you drive
by every Arab village in the area saying
this is area A. Jews, according to the
law, are not allowed in here. They're
not allowed in. They You if you're are
and you come in here, you could die.
Right? It's illegal. Right, it's
illegal. So, to for the state of Israel
to bar Jews from entering Judea is such
a spiritual decay and rot and such a
twisted thing that of course it's going
to result in those areas being It's It's
like saying, "Leave Sodom. Leave that to
itself." Also, some of these Arabs were
on the way to wanting to have a
connection with Israel. Some of them are
perhaps like Ishmaelites. Actual
Ishmael, not these Philistine marauders.
They wanted a connection. But the minute
you put a big sign up in front of their
village saying, "A Jew comes in here,
they're going to die." Well, it's It's
the ultimate disempowerment. I have a
question for you guys. How How does it
feel to be one of those settlements? And
that's exactly what I was going to say.
Settlements. That is
oppressing the people of of
the good Christian
>> Because that's exactly You know that's
who she's talking about. When she says
"Settlers are are stealing, you know,
the homes and territory of Bethlehem,"
they're talking about your lonely
hilltop. And in Judea, it was not lonely
anymore, but like that the hilltop that
was barren for 2,000 years where King
David wrote the Psalms. You guys came
in, built beautiful homes, and a
beautiful retreat center. That's exactly
who she's talking about. You know, I I
actually wish you were Bethlehem.
There's something so misleadingly
superficial and simplistic about so many
of these verbal assaults on Israel that
when you look, let's say, before October
7th, we did have Arab labor helping us
build the farm and what we were building
there. And if you came in and you see me
talking to an Arab very respectfully and
there's a very good relationship, but
still I'm saying, "Build this here in
this way." Well, he's the rich overlord.
But if you just zoom out a little bit
and you see me driving away in a beat-up
Toyota that is is should have been
impounded into a ball of steel a long
time ago and him driving away in a Land
Cruiser to a mansion and we're living in
caravans surrounded by barbed wire to
protect ourselves or they're living in
mansions with no fences and no security
sleeping the sleep of the just. Like,
what is this about? What is really
happening here? It is the absolute
inversion inversion. It's not just a
lie, it's the inversion of the truth.
Mhm.
You know, that was one of the things
Tucker did get to the interview that he
said was is that he said that the the
settlements were pretty were ugly and
that you know, compared to the Arab
villages that were so beautiful. Now,
now maybe if he just took one picture of
a home but I don't know.
>> just make sure everybody knows that
that's a complete bold-face lie? Yeah.
And I mean, you can you guys can Google
it. I mean, there's something about the
culture here. If you go in an Arab
village, it's full of trash. Yes, I just
want to say that I'm I try to walk
around my whole life and never have
hatred in my heart for anyone or
anything ever. And even if I go out to
war, I want it to be from a place of
love. Not only from the people for the
people of my nation and my people I'm
protecting, but also love for these
jihadist evil terrorists who want to
murder Jewish babies that there's really
nothing better for them than to never be
able to do that ever. And so I'm going
to try to facilitate that. And also they
want to be shahids and martyrs, I'll so
I'll so try to facilitate that. But the
point is I have this homicidal urge when
they're in front of me in the vehicles
and they just roll down the window and
throw out not just a can, a bag of
garbage. Do you understand like our
village has constant things where the
kids go out to wherever I go with my
kids, we have like a bag in our pockets
so we can pick up garbage and say the
sham mitzvah ahavat Yisrael. We say
different things about our love for
Israel and we're picking up garbage and
the whole thing is a big garbage can to
them. Okay? And so like to say that it's
it's just such a twisted He's constantly
saying, "You got to come to Qatar. You
got to come to Saudi Arabia and see it
yourselves. You got to come to Judea and
see for yourselves what's really
happening here." And that's what you
guys do Mhm. really [clears throat]
well. Yeah. Really well. You got to come
on on their tour.
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I don't want to miss the point here of
uh of of what uh what's her name? The
lady that was just here.
>> M J T? No, M T G. Who's it? Oh, yeah, M
T G.
I don't know. It's too long of a name.
Also, I think she's kind of a nut, so.
Well, no, but I'm saying she she said
something and Tucker's saying these
things and they're You know who the
problem is again?
It's not the radical Islamist that have
driven the Christian population out.
That's just fact. Nobody None of them
will ever say that. These radical
Islamists have taken over Bethlehem and
driving the Christians out. The same
radical Islamists that are slaying the
Christians of Syria. Same same exact
issue.
Um you know the problem is?
You see in the distance out there, way
over there, there's a hilltop.
>> Jeremy and his the Arutz Goat Farm.
>> farm is over there. You know those Jews?
Ari said he was just out, you know, the
electricity went out. You know what he
was really doing? He was he was He was
>> an outhouse to his trailer. That's the
reason that there's conflict in the
Middle East is because that trailer
added another room onto the back of it.
>> literally say that they're attacking the
the the Bethlehem is is dwindling and
its population is actually on the verge
of extinction extinction of Christians
because of the settlers.
Meaning the settlers are the problem,
not the solution. Well, the settlers are
the solution to protecting and guarding
the land of Israel.
Protecting the Christian populations cuz
when they are actually in charge,
there's law and order. And when they're
not, radical Islam shows you what they
can do. So, I just don't want to
>> I just want to interject on one point.
I'm sorry, forgive me. Not only
protecting Israel, but protecting Tucker
Carlson. That's what's so rich about
this. He is literally, you know, I don't
remember if you saw that commercial
about the like the boulder coming down
and stopped and they're swinging at the
monster that's holding the boulder up
that's protecting them. Like the global
jihad is going for Tucker Carlson. And
if he thinks that just because he was
he's waving the banner in defense of
them that they're going to you know,
they're not going to cut his head off
and put it on a stake, they're wrong.
They're going for the entire world. And
the tip of the spear in the battle
against the global jihad is Judea and
Samaria and the settlements and the
farms on the tips of the settlements.
And so, we're here not just protecting
all of Israel and every Jew in the
world, but every
Bible believer anywhere in the world,
whether they know it or not. That's
right. I wanted to go to the clip here
with these guys and just cuz I want to
hear the the rabbi's responses to some
of this this real Jew it is real Jew
hatred yet the whole interview as I just
listened to these guys
was saying, you know, we don't hate
Jews, we love Jews.
We're not anti-Semites. Everybody tells
us we're anti-Semites. I'm not an
anti-Semite, you know.
But the whole thing was
oh, you know that you know that they
were bashing
Ambassador Huckabee the whole time and I
think we have a lot in common with with
Ambassador Huckabee on this show.
Someone that believes in the Bible as
though it didn't change and that it it
isn't rewritten.
And maybe there's a lot of reason
[clears throat] why the the Christian
community is embracing more of with
Islam than the Jews is because there is
a replacement in both of these. It's
it's it's 2.0 and 3.0 and gather
together against one
the founders the Jews. So maybe that's
why they're kind of there's a unity
there and their and their replacement
theologies of both the church and and
the Islam. The Jews are a threat to both
of them. Yeah. They have to somehow
undermine the Jewish return to the land
of Israel or both of those theologies
fall apart and the most prophesied event
in the Bible is the ingathering of the
Jewish people back to the land of
Israel. Every single prophet in the
Bible speaks of it and here we are
living it and so what do these
replacement theologians do? They just
can't handle it. So they'll attack us
till their last breath. Right. And so I
want to play this clip here where
they're discussing
Abraham and how the the covenant is is
is conditional on Abraham but under
Jesus it's it's secure and now the
promises are it's it's basically
replacement theology 101 that seems to
represent so much of Christianity and
how now that's it's it's causing them to
be like, oh, Israel. Everything we're
seeing in Israel is
you know, what is what is that? It's
it's just a you know, it's just a
secular state, whatever. Let's let's
play this clip. So this is important.
What does it mean? Do we inherit
uh a holy land between the river and the
Mediterranean? Or does it mean something
else? The meaning of that promise have
also been transformed. It's not just the
scope of the promise, it's the meaning
of the promise. From temporary to
eternal.
From physical to spiritual.
From conditional because it was
conditional by the way. You know, he
didn't just give them the land and say,
"This is your land." It's by It's God's
land by the way. He is the landlord.
And the people that were given the land,
they were tenants.
And they have to obey the commandments
of the Lord. They have to love their
neighbors. They have to take care of the
foreigners among them.
And when they don't obey the covenant
that was given to them,
God always kicked them out. Oh, yeah.
They get taken to Babylon. Yeah. Yes,
twice. And and and
the Old Testament gives graphic language
when describes the the the, you know,
not for Israel not obeying the the laws
of the Lord. It says the land will vomit
you out. Excuse my language.
So, it was conditional when it was given
to Abraham.
But in Jesus, it's secure. It's eternal.
Okay, watch this.
I I I get it. I get aggravates me to no
end, but I want to hear from Rabbis.
Obviously, this is a pretty flawed
theology.
>> Well, I would say that first Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob, they never spoke about
a new Jerusalem. That's just not a part
of their covenant. The one covenant that
they did have is the land. That is the
one covenant and promise given to
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the
promised land. And the second part is he
said, "Ah, the covenant with them is is
What did he say? Is
coincidental?" Conditional. Conditional.
It's like, "Well, because it says that
they'll vomit them out of the land."
There's a difference between um
consequences and conditional. Like there
are consequences if the Jews don't keep
to the covenant. We will be vomited out
of the land. And then every prophet in
the Bible says, including Moses, one day
they will be brought back because an
everlasting covenant is an everlasting
covenant. That is said over and over
again. And so an eternal word, an
eternal promise from an eternal God with
an eternal people. Here the Jewish
people are living in the land of Israel,
living out the promises of God. And it's
just undeniable unless you make up lies
like, "Oh, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
were looking for a new Jerusalem. That's
not a piece of land. It's just a lie."
>> could just stand on Jeremy's shoulders
here for a second because I think one of
the differences you were just talking
about how Tucker Carlson advertises and
his ideological alliances. And he's very
much Catholic when it comes to to that
approach. And you, correct me if I'm
wrong, but from what I understood, the
Catholic priests and the Protestants, a
big part of their war was that
Catholicism wanted to keep the actual
Bible away from the average people and
in the hands of the priests who
understood and the little peons just had
to take their word for it. The same
thing is happening here. Right? What
Jeremy just said is true, but they don't
want the people to actually dive into
the Bible, swim those waters on their
own, and see the lies that they're
talking about. Right? First of all, when
it says, you know, for God, he's
literally calling God a liar. Right? God
says, in Genesis chapter 17, "I will
give you to you and your descendants the
land of Canaan for an everlasting
possession." Right? When it talks about
the covenant of the parts, right? That
Abraham made, usually in the ancient far
east, the Middle East, it would both
both sides would walk through that.
Yeah. Right? Why? To say that if we
violate this, this was a unilateral
covenant. God made a covenant with
Abraham. And yes, just like Jeremy said,
in Leviticus 26:44, "Even when they are
in the land of their enemies, I will not
reject them to completely destroy them,
for I am the Lord their God." Right?
This is it's it's a promise that God has
made to the nation of Israel that he's
with us. And the enemies of Israel think
that God is a liar. And so they conflate
and mistake our punishments from our
father that loves us with his total
rejection of us, which is why it's a
desecration of his name to begin with. I
have more to say this, but what would
say?
>> reading it this morning and he's I'm
reading through all the prophets, which
like the prophets are great with this,
but Ezekiel has a number of chapters
where they spend like, you know, he
spends a lot of the chapter talking
about if Israel disobeys, when they
worship idols, when they sacrifice on
the high places, they'll be kicked out
of the land, but like
if you just read the end of the chapter
or the next chapter, like every single
time it's like, I but I will bring them
back. I will renew my covenant with
them. I will keep my promises to the
people of Israel. And maybe this is
everyone's problem is they just don't
read the end of the chapter, but I
always tell people like just read the
Bible in its entirety. It is filled from
you know, beginning with Genesis all the
way through with God's enduring promise
and covenant with Israel. Here's what I
don't get. They say you know, and if we
watched it a little bit later in the
clip, you'd see this part where they say
why are we bringing back a pre-Christian
territorial mindset?
Meaning
physical versus spiritual. Listen guys,
everything is spiritual today, but yet
underneath, what are they actually
saying?
They're saying it's it's really a big a
big disguise cuz they're saying they
want to change facts on the ground.
They want facts on the ground to change.
They want to take over Bethlehem. They
want to take over these different areas.
They want to hold on. They want to
create a two-state solution. They want
facts on the ground, but they're doing
it through a kind of an interesting way.
They're saying what are we going back to
this thing, you know, because the Jews,
you know, they're all focused on the the
actions and actually doing what Abraham
said and and saying to you and your
descendants I give this land. And
they're actually going to come back and
physically take the land.
>> he preceded by talking about how much
the Palestinian church loves the
patriarchs.
And then he launched into how the
covenant made with the patriarchs is no
longer valid. I I I think maybe the
calling here, and correct me if I'm
wrong, but I think the difference
between Tucker Carlson and you is that
when I've seen your Bible
>> There's a difference between Josh
Um tell me
I feel like I'm having How can we do
that? I'm going out of my comfort zone
so my laugh wasn't exactly right. I'm
going out of my comfort zone here so I
want you to tell me if I'm right or
wrong, but
you have a Bible that starts with
Genesis and it goes all the way to the
end of the New Testament. Meaning you
see it all as one. Whereas I imagine if
I were to ask him for his Bible, it's
only the New Testament.
Right? That That would be I think the
difference
>> reads it backwards. He wouldn't admit
that, but yes. Yeah, I would Okay, but
because it's impossible to not see the
core biblical claim to the land. You
know, we're reading off a computer cuz
to go through the Bible and to shift
around it's too much time. To your
offspring I have given this land from
the river of Egypt to the great river to
the Euphrates.
Genesis, I will give this land to your
descendants for the land of Canaan for
an everlasting possession. You shall
take possession of this land and dwell
in it for to you I have given the land
to possess.
You know, just over and over and over
again. Hashem will return your captives,
gather you from the nations, and bring
you into the land. And he's like, "Oh,
this antiquated, backwards." You're just
calling the God of Israel, the God of
all of mankind, backwards and antiquated
and a liar. That's literally who those
that are siding with Tucker Carlson are
aligning themselves with to their own
detriment and their own peril. You you
got to play this clip because it's it's
too too
we're just going to love to eat this up
cuz it's uh
it's talking about how
is this genetic? Is this just Is this
really think
cuz once you separate everything's so
spiritual no longer [clears throat] the
physical doesn't matter anymore.
The promise made to Abraham what is it?
It's a spiritual promise. Those that
believe in God and what you know that
now who are the Jews? That's what they
ask. So who who are the Jews? That's the
clip. Play this clip, yeah. Of course as
a theological matter, but I I think if
we're speaking in political terms this
is a government
>> Right. run by, you know, secular people
by and large.
>> Yes. And they're saying God gave us this
land. Okay, what land? What are the
boundaries? So, we should at least
define the terms. Second, who's we? What
does it mean? Who are the people who
inherited this? So, the Prime Minister
of Israel is not religious. He doesn't
keep the Sabbath or keep kosher. I'm not
attacking him. I'm just saying like
then what are you talking about? Are you
saying you have a genetic inheritance?
Like what Okay, let's say
>> Can Can someone who converts to Judaism
claims divine right from Brooklyn, New
York?
>> even want to have these conversations.
They're the ones pushing them. I think
people I'm happy to people practice
their own religions. I don't want to get
involved. Yeah. I don't want to know
everything about Mormonism or Islam or
whatever. It's fine.
But as long as you're saying you have a
right to my money
and your parents
land on the basis of this
promise in Genesis, I have a right to
ask you what the heck you're talking
about. Did you know that Israel goes out
of its way to prevent Messianic
believers from making aliyah?
No. Jewish believers in Jesus.
If they find out that you believed in
Jesus,
they don't they don't give you the right
to immigrate to Israel. What?
So, whose land
>> true? whose promise? Yeah, I have a lot
of Jewish friends who are believers in
Jesus and they share with me. And they
can't move back to Israel and get all
the rights of
Not as So, they're really Okay, so now
that we're talking like
present-day concrete political
realities.
There are two claims that they could
potentially be making. One is
is faith-based. So, I believe in this
religion called Judaism. And we could
debate what that religion is. Is it
Talmudic or rabbinic? Whatever. That's
all separate conversation that I don't
want to have, but like they're pushing
this. But it's either faith-based, I
believe in this,
or it's blood-based. It's genetic. And
they they have also historical claims.
Say Jews been here. We have a historical
>> the Jews then?
They are
>> Like do you have more
DNA? I don't know if you if you even
know the answer, but do you if we were
to say okay, who lived in first century
Palestine, current day Israel,
are you more closely related to those
people or is Benjamin Netanyahu more
closely related to those people? They
should do DNA test and see. And I did my
DNA test. Palestinian Christians are
Levantine of origin.
So it's likely that you have more Jewish
ancestors than Benjamin Netanyahu's
family is from Europe.
>> Probably. Okay. So so then it can't be
genetic because right?
>> Yes. There you go.
Jeremy, please.
>> No, but I but there was two which clips
are we doing? There's there's there's
one to talk about that.
>> I just want to say this is the problem.
They give you so much they barrage you
with so much insanity and so much
twisted distorted logical and where do
you even start? Okay, sorry. The first
one Jeremy. We we need to scissors rock
and paper for who gets to do this. No,
you do it.
No, I'm serious. You can really do it
first.
It's it's it's genetic. And it's is BB
that's the two questions. Is this a
genetic thing or is this
are the Arabs more uh Basically what
gives the Jews the right to the land?
That was the first one. The first one,
what gives the Jews the right to the
land? God.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay. And the second one was
he's more Jewish than BB Netanyahu.
>> And then then in his case it well either
way he he he's the inheritor of the
promise.
Cuz he's actually more
you know.
Okay. Okay, he's who's that
>> ways it's exciting. They're really
sparking some of the most foundational
fundamental
>> is that with in three sentences like
that's that's that's like manipulated.
That's twisted. It's like wait, I want
to like take all of those things apart.
So like can we just go back for once to
to what is it once 116? I just want to
hear like what
>> First part? Yeah, the first that we just
like then we can do the second part. I
just want to make sure that I like want
to if it's like showing that clip and
then the response then I want to make
sure that I'm responding to what he's
saying. Second one, who's we? What does
it mean? Who are the people who
inherited this? So the Prime Minister of
Israel is not religious. He doesn't keep
the Sabbath or keep kosher. I'm not
attacking him. I'm just saying like then
what are you talking about? Are you
saying you have a genetic inheritance?
Like what Okay, let's hear the next
>> Can the promise was given to Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob and their children
forever. The Jewish people are quite
literally an extended family. We are all
interconnected, but what's so beautiful
about the family is that anyone can
join. It doesn't matter if you're a
black Jew, a white Jew, a polka dot Jew,
a yellow Jew. You can always attach
yourself to Israel. You
not Jewish, you're living in the land,
you've been here for years, you have a
like a place in this land. And so, it's
not about a genetic thing, it's about an
idea thing. Are you connecting to the
idea of what Israel represents? Are you
connecting to the God of Israel? If you
connect to the God of Israel as our
father and you attach yourself to the
nation of Israel, then of course you
have a place within the land of Israel.
And so, there's always been righteous
among the nations that have attached
themselves to Israel. Moab was
uh an enemy country, but Ruth the
Moabite eventually attached herself to
Israel and gave birth to King David and
the Messianic Dynasty. That didn't have
to do with ethnicity or DNA. She was a
total non-Jew from the nations that
attached herself to Israel. And
specifically, the attachment of the
righteous among the nations is what gave
birth to the Messianic Dynasty. So, it's
not just the Jews with their genetics,
it's much beyond that, but at the same
time, it's confusing because the Jews
are one large extended family from
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And anyone
that attaches themselves to Israel is
like joining the family of Israel. It's
like one tree, and you can be grafted
onto a tree and you become a part of
that tree. You become a part of that
family. And so, it is a family, but the
family is open to all those that want to
join. All right, I want you to answer
this next question and I want to play
this clip cuz he Who So, who are the
Jews then? Let me play this clip and I
don't Ari if you can respond to this
part of this this whole
>> Okay, but can I just say in one in one
sentence I just want to respond to that
because there's just so much to say
there. You know, look back at Abraham.
It's the same thing with us. We came to
the land. We bought it at top dollar. We
conquered it in a war in an actual
war of this world with tanks and weapons
and we won against overwhelming odds,
right? And still we have to defend our
right to be there because they're
essentially speaking to the heart to the
soul of the situation saying, "Yeah, but
what's it really for?" And that's the
question we really need to ask
ourselves. What's it really for? Is it
just that we have a
a safe place Am Yisrael
to go when when the world wants to kill
us or are we supposed to be shining a
light of godliness and truth and Torah
to the entire nations of the world?
That's like the the essence of the
question that is being but meaning God
is using them right now as an
instrument, but I don't want to hold you
back. No, but I want you to answer that
question. I think there's also an
expectation. It's interesting the way
he's like Bibi Netanyahu, he doesn't
keep Shabbat, he doesn't keep kosher,
and I feel like that's so interesting
that intuitively they want the people of
Israel and our leadership to live by the
Torah. If and so do I. If we could only
be integral, have integrity, live by the
Torah that God gave us in this land,
that's what the world is waiting for and
what we're doing is we are just
confusing the world. We're confusing the
world because we haven't won yet. We
haven't just taken over that and just
created the facts on the ground by
declaring sovereignty. And we're also
confusing the world saying, "Well, if
you're God's chosen people and God gave
you the Torah, why aren't you living by
the Torah in the land like the Torah
says?" And so uh what can I say other
than he's right? The Prime Minister of
Israel should keep Shabbat. The Prime
Minister of Israel should keep kosher.
And we should live by that word. Right.
The book of Amos says, "V'shavti shvut
ami
They will rebuild desolate I will return
the exiles of my people. They will plant
vineyards and drink their wine. They
will rebuild desolate cities. I shall
plant them on the land and they'll never
be uprooted again. Hashem will return
your captives, gather you from the
nations, bring you to the land your
forefathers possessed. The city shall be
inhabited, the ruins rebuilt. Like how
much more do you need? You can't turn
the page of the Bible without literally
the prophecies that are being fulfilled
right now through us. Well, I want to
say something. When you spiritualize the
Bible, which is what they're doing,
they're saying, "Oh, that's a spiritual
ingathering. It's talking about a
spiritual rebuilding of cities and a
spiritual of vineyards." Well, then
who's to define what that spiritual
meaning is? Oh, it's the church fathers.
They can then decide what the spiritual
meaning is. It's like a controlling of
that religion instead of letting God
take control instead of letting reality
define what the truth is. And the reason
why it's all happening now is because
the world is going to be filled with
lies. The prophets literally say, "Lies
will look like truths and truths will
look like lies and no one will know what
to make of all the lies." And so, there
is just going to be a truth, the Jewish
people returning to the land, building a
kingdom in this country, building up
Jerusalem as the capital. It's just
what's going to be reality and AI won't
be able to fake it and the fake news
won't be able to manipulate it. It will
just be God's sovereignty as the people
of Israel declare sovereignty on the
world. That's what it's there for. It's
to bring truth and clarity to a world
filled with lies.
>> The biggest reason I want to play this
clip is just cuz it's absolutely so
idiotic and stupid and and just so A
perfect way to finish the show.
>> [laughter]
>> We are running out of time. We are
running out of time, but there is one
more thing that we have to get in on
this. There's actually two more things
we have to get in really quickly. So,
let's let's speed through this.
>> a rule that has to be an hour or could
it be an hour 10 if we need to? No,
there's just 50 people waiting outside
to eat lunch, but that's all right.
>> [laughter]
>> So, they're really Okay, so now that
we're talking like
present-day concrete political
realities,
there are two claims that they could
potentially be making. One is
is uh faith-based. So, I believe in this
religion called Judaism. And we could
debate what that religion is. Is it
Talmudic or rabbinic? Whatever. That's
all separate conversation that I don't
want to have. But like they're pushing
this. But it's either faith-based, I
believe in this,
or it's blood-based. It's genetic.
>> I think they have also historical
claims. They Jews been here. We have a
historical
>> are the Jews then?
They
>> Like do you have more
DNA? I don't know if you if you even
know the answer, but do you If we were
to say, "Okay, who lived in
first-century Palestine, current-day
Israel,
are you more closely related to those
people or is Benjamin Netanyahu more
closely related to those people?" They
should do DNA test and see. And I did my
DNA test. Palestinian Christians are
Levantine of origin.
So, it's likely that you have more
Jewish ancestors than Benjamin
Netanyahu's family's from Europe.
>> Probably. Okay.
Wow. That is the craziest. That's That's
what I'm talking about. Absolute idiocy.
Can I just point out too like it the the
whole context is we don't want to have
this conversation. We don't want to get
in anybody's business or tell people
what they can believe or what religion
they can be a part of. But but it's you
know, it's important. We We have to.
You're going to force me. We have to ask
the question. Who are the Jews? And what
gives them the right to modern-day
Israel? Because we have to finish up.
There's two things that they said in the
show that we have to cover. So, we have
to jump here really quickly. But I want
to hear about Jeremy and I No, no, no.
This is your job. This is your
department.
>> No, but I just think Everybody agrees
that that's just that's just stupid. I
just wanted everybody to hear that cuz
it's just really stupid to say that
maybe this Arab from the Levant has more
Jewish ancestry than Bibi Netanyahu. I
mean, that's just that's just a little
bit far for me. And I don't think we
need to talk about it much more. But
there's something really, really cool
um that they discussed here that I think
is is awesome. It's talking about Jewish
sovereignty in Jerusalem. Can we want to
play this clip? Total disregard of the
historic church that has been
sitting there for the past 2,000 years.
Okay?
I pray for the peace of Jerusalem. But
praying for the peace of Jerusalem does
not mean accepting the destruction of
Gaza.
How do you respond to something like
that? No, no, no, you start.
>> You want me to start?
>> Yes. Well, I just think it's absolutely
it's it's it's
it's a different religion to say that
you shouldn't this this Jewish we pray
for the peace of Jerusalem, but it's it
shouldn't be a Jewish sovereignty is not
what God what King David meant when he
when he stated the words in the Psalms
that you should pray for the peace of
was the King David Jerusalem in the
vision of the Messianic kingdom not
Jewish and was this story somehow that
is a different religion and to me it's
it's it's more Islamic than anything
else. I'm just pretty blatant about
that.
>> Well, right there it really goes to the
heart of the issue. They don't want a
Jewish Jerusalem. They don't want a
Jewish people. That's why they keep on
questioning who are the Jews. They want
us to just disappear because then they
can control the narrative. They can
control the Bible. It's all spiritual
anyway. I'll tell you what spirituality
means. It's actually all analogy for AI
and we need to worship AI now because
the spiritual blessings of the
rebuilding of who knows they could just
make up whatever they want. And so
Israel is going to be a light because it
will bring the bottom line truth into
reality. And they can try to replace us,
but here we are. Jerusalem has never
been so big. There've never been more
Jews living in Jerusalem than ever
before. So what will happen is that
reality will reveal itself and the truth
is reality and God is reality and God is
good and the truth is good and
eventually all of these lies will be
exposed for what they are.
>> And it's already starting to reveal
itself now because anyone with the a
modicum of intellectual honesty and
curiosity can go and just look up the
fact that right now Muslim Arabs,
Christians, Catholics, the whole
spectrum, Jews, the whole world has more
access to pray in Jerusalem under a
Jewish Jerusalem than ever before. A
true international Jerusalem is under
the nation of Israel, the state of
Israel. Now unfortunately because we're
in the days leading up to Redemption and
we're not there now, the temple that we
are seeking to build, that we've been
praying to build, the temple that
Ezekiel talked about in chapter 43.
>> about the third temple? Oh, yes.
Yes, there's prophecy about
>> this clip for you real quick?
>> Play this Play the clip. But one of the
ideas that's
common among Christian Scientists is
that they need Christians need to help
rebuild this thing called the Third
Temple. Yes. in Jerusalem.
Unfortunately, there's a mosque on the
site, one of the holiest places in
Islam, Aqsa Mosque, but
is that something that Christians should
want to rebuild the Third Temple? What
is that? Where does that idea come from?
And what would happen if it were
attempted?
>> Absolutely not. The short answer. Okay.
Jesus in Ephesians 2, he knocked down
the wall of hostility that separated the
Jews and the Gentiles. Yes. Why are we
bringing it back up? Why are we building
it? There is no point There is no
scripture that pointed to the fact that
Christians need to build the Third
Temple. There is no prophecy about the
Third Temple.
There is no way in scripture about
anything close to a Third
>> But we're doing it. I mean, we're moving
toward knocking down
Al-Aqsa Mosque and replacing it with a
Third Temple. I mean, all things being
equal, it's going to happen. It was just
occupied yesterday by a bunch of
settlers. So, this is happening in slow
motion. Christians are paying for it.
Again, they're What is going on?
>> They're putting their hopes in earthly
matters, where I direct them to the
faith that Abraham had, where he fixed
his eyes on what eternal. The New
Jerusalem. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
First of all
>> answer to that, but I want to hear the
rabbinic one first.
>> Yeah, I don't want to get into I'm going
to let you touch
I'm going to let you touch on the on the
on the Christian thing about knocking
down the wall of hostility. I mean,
someone should have sent that memo to
2,000 years of Jews that was butchered
at the sword, at the stake, in the
Inquisition, in the Cossacks, in the
pogroms, in Tucker Carlson's religion of
no blood guilt that's 10 minutes old.
Okay, but I mean the fact is Ezekiel
chapter 43 verse 11. The I mean I'll go
to the English. Make known to them the
design of the temple, its arrangements,
its exits, its entrances, all its forms,
all its statutes, and all its laws.
Meaning there it's not symbolic. There's
actual architectural instructions for
the third temple. I will set the prophet
Ezekiel I will set my sanctuary among
them forever. My dwelling place shall be
with them. Right? In the last days, the
mountain of the house of the Lord shall
be established and all nations will flow
to it. That when we're praying for the
temple, the temple we're praying for
isn't just a Jewish temple. It's a
temple for my house will be a house of
prayer for all nations. And just as the
priests are to the the 12 tribes of
Israel, all of Israel is to the nations
of the world. We are priests in that
temple to bless the nations of the
world. And until we start doing it now,
until we start blessing the nations now,
then it's not going to happen. Meaning
we have to see the world through
Messiah's through redemptive eyes and
hear their questions although they're
cynical and twisted, try to get to the
bottom light spark of truth in there,
focus on that and really ask ourselves
inside, are we doing what we're supposed
to be doing as a nation of Israel?
You're asking yourselves that, that's
what's led you to do what you're doing.
Now you you go ahead I No, I'm just
saying my approach to this whole thing
is is that it's absolutely not biblical.
It's not a it's not a biblical narrative
at all. Like he he just literally
obviously doesn't know his Bible to say
there's no prophecy about the third
temple.
What kind of idiocy is that? I mean
that's literally not true. The Bible is
the it points toward a future day when
God's presence will be established again
on the mountain of God.
>> mountain of God. Zion, that's Old
Testament and New Testament where Jesus
actually quoted the Old Testament when
said, "This will be a house of prayer
for all nations." Isaiah. Right. So like
there's literally no argument for it.
>> so yeah, there's no argument for this
kind of thing. And again, if I were to
just boil this all down and I know we
got to wrap up is is that
there's a war against the Jews. There's
those that bless Israel and there's
those that curse Israel.
>> Jeremy still had something to say cuz
like there was like
>> just it. You can't
>> There's There's a lot of smoke that's
been coming out of everybody's ears. We
just need to make sure and [laughter]
Well, I I think that it's just beautiful
that, you know, the nations right now,
they're all aligning up to attack us.
They're attacking us theologically,
physically, militarily, politically.
They're just everywhere. And the Jews
are still holding on to the dream that
we are going to build the temple in
Jerusalem that will be a blessing to the
world. A blessing to all those nations
that are coming to attack us. And we're
not going to give up that hope. We're
still going to hope in the world, hope
in God, hope in Jerusalem. And even if
they're coming to attack us, we're
really just coming here to bless them.
And our blessing and our love is going
to overpower all of the darkness. I'm
with you. Can I end this with a prayer?
But this prayer is not my prayer. This
is the prayer that King Solomon
explicitly prayed in during the
dedication of the temple. And this is
the prayer that we really need to to be
having in our hearts. He said,
"Moreover,
pleading to God, moreover, God,
concerning a stranger that is not of thy
people Israel, but come out of countries
far and wide for your name's sake, hear
their prayers in heaven in your dwelling
place and do according to all that the
stranger calls you to do, that all the
people of the earth shall know your name
and fear you as your people Israel do,
and that they may know that this house
is called by your name."
Amen. Amen. That is the prayer right now
that we need to we need to be praying
not only for the temple, but for the
nations of the world to receive God's
light and blessing, including Tucker
Carlson.
>> about to say including Tucker Carlson.
He should I don't have any animosity and
anger towards him or I try not to most
of the time. When there's just such
sinister, distorted, twisted lies, it's
hard not to, but I still pray
for him to receive God's light and
blessing and humility through compassion
and mercy and not through refinement,
which could be very, very painful.
>> Kind of sad you forgot to talk about his
rooster and stuff like that, but you
know, there's a yeah, discussion about
the show, but well,
we we could go for another hour, but
unfortunately, we we filmed this show in
a in a cafe in the corner of a
cafeteria. We're trying to build a real
studio this year and I'm just mentioning
this in case anyone watching wants to
help sponsor a brand new studio that
we're hoping to build and then we can go
over two hours when we're on topics like
this, but we have
40 volunteers waiting outside the door
to come in and eat lunch right now. So,
you guys are just going to have to
connect with Jeremy and Ari on the
fellowship.
>> we need gold.
More sardines. Ari needs more sardines.
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