Using a lot of Water For Netilas Yadayim - Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 158 Seif 7-10

Okay, good morning everyone. We're continuing in Mishnah Berurah daf siman kuf nun khas [clears throat] seif zayin. The Mechaber said that if you wash your hands for something that's dipped in a liquid, and then you want to eat bread, according to the Ba'alei haTosafos that you're not required to wash your hands for davar she tibbul b'mashkin, so then a netilah is not going to work. And it goes without saying im natla yadov um if you wash your hands for hygiene, and then you're nimlakh v'akhal, yeah, so so yesterday um we said the reason is um that d'lo natla l'shem netilah m'khuyaves, you did not wash your hands for a obligatory netilah. So the Chazon Ish asked the following question. Why does a netilah not work? Let's say you washed your hands for hygiene. Isn't the reason for the netilah to metamei your hands so that it doesn't passel the bread? And if you washed your hands so that as not to contaminate the liquid, your kavana was to metamei yadov. So even if you say you need kavana for netilas yadayim for chullin, wasn't the guy's kavana to metamei yadov, not to be metamei the mashkin? See that I don't understand. No, meichei teisei, that's what the guy's kavana is. Why would we say the guy's kavana is to be metamei his hands? If you don't have to wash your hands for davar she tibbul b'mashkin, then then that's not the guy's kavana. But the Chazon Ish seems to be saying that if you do require kavana, he says if you require kavana, he could understand it. So that's the reason we said yesterday. Yesterday we said the reason is, what's the ta'am that you have to wash your hands? What's the reason why it doesn't work? Because you weren't m'khaven. So I would have said it's not that mitzvah tzerichah kavana. This is what I was saying, I'm going to say another reason tomorrow. It's not that you're lacking in kavana, mitzvah tzerichah kavana. But if you wash your hands for a different purpose, in a way it's like m'sasaik. It's worse than absence of kavana. Absence of kavana is I'm doing a mitzvah, I just didn't have the formal kavana. I'm having kavana to the do the mitzvah. I know I'm doing a mitzvah, I'm just lacking that formal kavana. No, I would say even though man d'amar mitzvah ein tzerichah kavana, but if I'm if I have in mind I'm doing something else, so in a way it's like m'sasaik. He said I don't I don't know that it's negative kavana, but in a way it is. It's I'm involved in doing a different activity. How can it possibly work for netilas yadayim? That's how I would understand it. Mamila, I think that would answer the Chazon Ish's kasha. Chazon Ish says even if you need kavana on netilas yadayim, m'stama his kavana is to metamei his hands. Okay, that that I don't understand. So in other words, yesterday we said the reason why it doesn't work is because mitzvah tzerichah kavana, but I think it's more fundamental than that. I think it's because you're not if if you're doing it for a different purpose, it doesn't work. Is it like the kohen that's thinking of a different korban while he's shocheit? I think that's a different then a you know, a by kar- by by korbanos, you need a positive by kodshim, you need to be m'khaven l'shem the korban. By a mitzvah, you have to have at least an awareness that that's what you're trying to do. What about the previous case of the Mechaber where he says you wash for once you wash for for davar she tibbul b'mashkin? Right, and then you want to eat bread. So there you say at least it's because it's because it's because there at least they had in mind they were doing a mitzvah of kedusha or a mitzvah of tahara or not. No, there the Mechaber says it doesn't work, right? Yeah, but he doesn't say this reason. He doesn't say because Yeah, I would say the same reason. It's I would say the same What? This is wrong. This is unless Lion says here for sure it doesn't work the Lion for the same kedusha klal. So it's like previous one, that's not the Okay, the previous one, the Mishnah Berurah says one second. It's not a netilah ham'khuyaves, and therefore I would say it's less than einav m'khaven. It's m'khaven for something else. It's m'khaven for netilah she einah m'khuyaves. Okay, fine. The Rama says at the end of the seif, hagov ein lo hesiach da'ato, yeitol b'verachah. If you're not m'siach da'as, you wash with that a berachah. Im naga b'achilah v'im kam some tafas b'guf if you touched during your eating a covered part of the body, achsav yitol yadov v'yif to wash again. V'ain l'kaman siman kuf samach dalet. Kuf alef l'kaman b'shem haShulchan Aruch gam kein l'achas l'vareich. There we come out you have to actually make a berachah again. V'im Okay, kol ha kol ha seif. It's going on the whole seif. Lo hesiach da'ato v'im m'siach da'ato mishum rasam l'kulyama tzarich lito she'einah berachah d'azai natil v'shana alaihu klal. B'lo berachah. You have to wash without a berachah. In other words, if you were not m'siach da'as, you have to wash without a berachah. The kama poskim sh'eilu d'netilas yadayim l'chullin af im lo kivein l'shem netilah yatza. Many poskim hold that for netilas yadayim for chullin, even if you are not m'khaven l'shem netilah, you're yoitze. So this is not like what we said today, like we said yesterday. Namely, that the reason why it would work is because you don't need kavana. Im lo hesiach da'ato mei'ishah natla yadov, if you're not m'siach da'as from the time you washed your hands. Um'varer d'varav Rav Yosef siman kuf nun tes v'Shulchan Aruch shams if you gimel ain sham. V'im kein yitol b'verachah, sham yatza b'netilah rishonah. By the way, later on the Derech haShulchan brings the better course of action is to proactively be metamei your hands and wash with a berachah. V'al netilah rishonah lo shayaich l'vareich af d'venimlakh l'eichol somach mamesh al netilah kivein sh'lo l'shem netilah. On the first netilah, you can't make a berachah. Why? It wasn't l'shem netilah. That's funny. So [snorts] what? But I don't need to be m'khaven l'shem netilah. I guess it's not a mitzvah if I'm not m'khaven, it's just I'm yoitze the whatever I needed to accomplish. But I'm not m'kayem a mitzvah. Im naga, hainu af davar she tibbul b'mashkin, So like this, let's say you're middle of a meal and you scratched your head and you don't want to eat more bread, so you wouldn't but I wanted to my donut in milk, then you're going to have to wash netilas yadayim again. Again, from the Rama it's mashma that in the middle of a meal you scratch your head, you have to wash again and make a berachah of netilas yadayim. So that's why it's good to have keys on you um during a meal in case your in case your head is itchy, or you could have a 3D printer toys everywhere in your house, and they you know, they work. Now, it's better not to use a a surgical blade to scratch your but um okay. The the Mechaber continues seif khas. Seif khas, mi sh'haya b'midbar, if someone is in a desert, o b'makom sakana v'ein lo mayim, patur min netilas yadayim. Someone is in a desert or in a dangerous spot and he has no water, you're patur from netilas yadayim. Says Mishnah Berurah, hu gam kein natan b'nei Sakana midbar also because of sakana im yeilech v'yichapes achareihem v'yigo search for water. V'lo kam midbar bifnei atzmai. The reason why he picked the case of midbar by itself, why isn't that included in makom sakana? Lo sh'einam d'sakana midbar lo eilam makom sakana. V'ein lo mayim v'af k'shehu yadaia sh'im yachsor achareihem mil, yasig sham mayim, gam kein ein m'khuyav. Even if you know that if you travel a mil, 18 minutes, you'll get water, you don't have to. Patur min netilas yadayim mikol makom. Um you're patur. Um mikol makom b'mapah tzarich l'chachotz yadov, you will have to wrap your hands. K'ilu l'kaman siman kuf samach gimel. As opposed to people who think that when they're traveling, they don't have to wash netilas yadayim, so they hold on to the silver foil. No, no. The traveling to the Catskills is not a makom sakana. I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm not recommending it. Unless you like to do it. But it doesn't mean your pot is full until you die. We'll see how far So since that's not a second and how far do you have to travel? We'll see. Good. After even though the sheer is parish like the sheer of a egg. Even though the sheer is which is a quarter of an egg. I'm sorry, a quarter of a leg which is an egg and a half. You should wash generously. I wash with a lot of water and they give me a lot of goodness from heaven. Says the mission for one hand all you need is 3.3 oz. Later on says Mr. I bring from the they write you should not pour less than a for each hand. And the mission says that um nowadays that we all wash the whole hand, you should not be I'm saying you should wash so that you do not uh forget to wash a small part of the hand. So you should wash your on each hand. If you wash with less a lot of issues. You get a lot of goodness. Don't do it to become wealthy. Don't wash with a lot of water to become wealthy. Do it to honor Hashem. The reward will come in a Someone who washes with a lot of water and doesn't come wealthy, he has other master that prevent it. Now let me just share something with you. If you're all by yourself at home and you want to sit there waiting up your cup filling up your cup so that you could your stocks should go up, no problem. But you're waiting online for this. Do not make 10 people wait because you want to fill up the whole cup. Just fill up your cup with enough water that you're going to wash your whole hands. You have no business making money by right before when everybody is waiting for you and everybody wants to wash before and on another note you want to dry your hands with the towel before you wash the touch the cup after you wash the uh When you think about the water, do it on your own time, pal. Don't make everybody wait because of all your and or have a better idea. Go to the other sink, you know, the one upstairs and sit there for 10 minutes washing your hands. You're going to be coming down after so it's at your own expense. But um like the wrote a chapter on this in the book. But if in a in a if you're in the privacy of your own hand fill it up. Fill it up. Get a big barrel. Pour the whole thing on and I should must be on you a lot of shafa. Okay. That is today's. Recording stopped.