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All right, we're ready to start. Ready
to rock and roll. So, we're on Genesis
45:E3.
Actually, we're going to just read in
English the first couple verses, then
I'll get to the Hebrew of verse three.
Now, Yseph could not endure in the
presence of all who stood before him.
So, he called out, "Remove everyone from
before me." Thus no one stood with him
when Joseph made himself known to his
brothers. He gave forth his voice in
weeping. Egypt heard and Pharaoh's
household heard. All right, the verse
we're going to deal with now is three.
And Yseph said to his brothers, I am
Yoseph. Is my father still alive? But
his brothers could not answer him
because they were left, this is art
scroll um translation, uh because they
were left disconcerted
before him. So we're going to discuss
that word disconcerted in Hebrew a
little bit. In Hebrew,
Yseph said to his brothers,
"I am Joseph,
is my father yet still alive?"
And the brothers were not able to answer
him
for they were nhalu as I mentioned our
scroll translates this as disconcerted
because they were disconcerted before
him. I would have translated it as
dumbfounded
as we'll see it's a little bit much it's
much more than just dumbfounded.
So we shouldn't be limited our limiting
ourselves to one translation.
Okay. So the clear begins by saying
he brings down the verse is my father
still alive and as we know he says I am
Yseph and his brothers couldn't answer
him and they were whatever that is we're
going to find out.
even though he already told them
I'm sorry that they already told him
that the father was still alive. See if
you go back to you don't have to now uh
chapter 44 verse 20 through34 there's a
whole dialogue and they keep talking
about the father being alive
so it's kam move on mik yehuda it's
certainly understood from all the words
of the yehuda of Yehuda in that dialogue
that yakov was still alive
but we know that yseph asks again anyway
So what was Yseph thinking?
Nevertheless, Yseph was thinking
maybe they said that the father was
still alive in this dialogue that took
place in chapter 44 20-34.
Maybe they were trying to trick him, so
to speak. Maybe they were just trying to
arouse a certain amount of mercy from
um Yseph, meaning the brothers or Yehuda
in particular, so that Yseph would have
some mercy on this so-called father,
whether he was alive or not. Perhaps he
wasn't even alive anymore in order not
to cause death to Binyammen because they
talked about how the father's soul was
so wrapped up in this child in this
young man
not a child anymore that maybe that
would arouse this mercy in other words
so that Binyama wouldn't be killed not
necessarily that Ysef could believe them
that the father was still alive so he's
asking is my father still alive because
maybe it It was a ruse. It was a ploy, a
scheme on their part just to say
binyamin by mentioning that the father
was still alive
because specifically in verse 44,
chapter 44:30,
it mentions that his soul was wrapped up
in his soul. So I'm assuming that means
that Yakob's soul was or Binyammen's
soul was well, let's say like this. They
were trying to imply that Yakob's soul
was wrapped up in Binyam soul. It would
kill him if he found out anything bad
happened to him. Alain Shaam Shenit.
That's why he asked them a second time,
is my father still is he still alive?
Because he didn't believe that they were
telling the truth per se, but it was
part of that roose.
That's why he asked a second time. Is my
father still alive?
And in their hearts they couldn't even
imagine. It wasn't even fathomable
that
they thought that Yseph's intention was
not really to ask if his father is alive
or not. So we already talked about what
was going through Yosph's mind. But what
about their mind that they couldn't even
imagine that he was actually asking to
find out if his father was still alive
or not rather shabas aam that he was
only saying that to remind them of their
sinar.
Therefore, he says,
"Is my father still alive
to say this was really what Jacob was
saying
who
that he's my father but he's not your
father to the brothers or Yehuda
kilo
because You the brothers, Yosph
speaking, you the brothers, you didn't
have any pity on his pain, meaning
YaKob, our father, as if he wasn't even
your father. You imagine the pain that
YaKob went through thinking that his son
Yoseph had been killed, not knowing what
happened to him. And it didn't wasn't
just one day. It wasn't a trick for a
minute, like a joke, a bad joke. It went
on for 22 years. Remember
that wordholu as the article translated
as disconcerted.
They were so astounded by this idea.
It's my father Yseph, but not your
father. You don't you didn't even treat
him right. Remember, he's reminding them
of their sin that they were shocked. I
like the word shocked or dumbfounded.
You didn't they didn't know what to
answer him.
And another reason for this
dumbfoundedness or disconcertedness
or shock lefa
when he said I am Yseph and he did not
say
your brother I am you know you one of
the brothers here he didn't mention the
brotherhoodness
He didn't mention that.
That's why they were in shock or
startled
shamaz
and fear a quakingness like a quaker
quaking quaking trembling uh seized them
took hold of them
since they said
gave um
perhaps he's seeking he desires to be
our enemy
or our avenger or and our avenger
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that he
removed himself
from this brotherly
hoodness because he didn't mention I'm
your brother I'm Yseph he says said yo
I'm your brother you You know, like what
do you see when you have your your your
brothers around you for the first time
after 22 years and they sold you into
slavery? Who knows where, what, how, it
wasn't very nice. But as he remembers
the the sin that they did and he's kind
of reminding them, I'm Yseph. And he
doesn't mention the brother he
brotherhood
that should have been amongst brothers.
So too he did to them what they did to
him. Basically they remove themselves
from brotherhoodness
camos perishi rashi says over there if
you look in chapter 3717
I'm going to try to turn to it 3717
when it says the man said remember um
Yseph was looking for his brothers and
he ran into this man Ela Navi they
journeyed on from here and I heard them
saying let us go to this place called
Doan. So, Yseph went after his brothers
and found them at Doan. They removed
themselves from his brother Hedlas. And
so, he was chasing after it at the time.
He went after their brother Hedness,
which meant that they had removed
themselves. They that word, it's really
like travel like sa san.
So it's to remove to be moved from.
He was just like uh reminding them he he
removed himself from the brother hides
by saying I need y he doesn't say I'm
your brother just like they did when he
was chasing after them. They moved on
and left behind this camaraderie this
you know bonding that takes place
between brothers
that's why he actually says to them I am
Yosephosi
mit your brother he mentions now in the
second time around that I am Yseph your
brother whom you sold told you sold me
to Egypt.
Even though, now imagine this
conversation. Even though at least you
could have sold me to any other nation,
right? I don't know how many nations
there were. Imagine there could have
been 70 possibilities or 69 other
possibilities. And you sold me to where?
To Egypt. I hate to tell you, I'm
supposed to not get political here, but
I've heard the way the Arabs themselves
talk about Egypt
that it's it's like the last place on
earth you want to be. Yeah. So, and and
and we sold we the brothers sold Yoseph
to Egypt and Yseph is basically saying
even you could have sold me anywhere but
you sold me cuz remember he says, "Yeah,
I'm your brother which you sold me to
Egypt." Those are the words he's using a
emphasis on Egypt. Well, you could have
sold me somewhere else.
I'm going to tell you a word about the
shuf, but I'll translate it first. That
is not so engrossed in sexual
immorality. So, I I'd like to say that
is not so stooped from the word stupe
not so stooped in sexual immorality.
Ani nevertheless I am your brother right
even though you sold me to a nation the
lowest of nations so stooped in
zema in sexual immorality nevertheless
I'm still your brother as the verse says
just want to go back to the verse itself
So
he says,
you know, you shouldn't get upset. Don't
get so angry.
Have to find the verse.
He doesn't quote the whole verse. He
just quotes part of it here because we
we will discuss the whole verse. So I'm
going to actually quote the whole verse
in English and in Hebrew. And now be not
distressed. He's not bringing that part.
Do not reproach yourselves.
Don't be so angry at yourselves.
You've sold me here.
Elohim
for it was as a supporter of life
that God sent me here ahead of you. So
what was he saying there?
You should see right. You should see
this is me
shabati
that there was a gil. There was a um
like gears turning. There was a domino
effect. I like to think snowball. It
just rolled and rolled, but it was like,
you know, you push it and it just goes
on its own. Well, there was a, you know,
maneuvering here. There was all these
dominoes that fell down in order to get
me to this place
which is stooped in in sexual
immorality.
So yeah you you're the ones that sold me
here but in the end I became the viceroy
who's supporting you.
Okay. So it was through these chain of
events that I've come to this place that
is so stooped vicorally mikraasifar
and it occurred to me this happens this
this happening with the wife of potifi
that I overcame
my own evil inclination
and it was through this of this being
stooped in this sexual immoral immoral
uh society that actually allowed me to
become the leader to become the shepherd
of Israel Roe Israel Zan umees who able
to deliver the goods who can nourish you
and support you like it says if you want
to you don't have to turn to it but it's
in uh chapter 49:24
where these These are the blessings of
Yakov to Yseph specifically
bean Kashto. There's a part of it
skipped here. Misham Evan Israel. So I'm
going to turn to that verse. This is
49:24.
It's near the end of 49:24.
This is the blessing of Yose of Yakov to
Yoseph.
And the whole verse says, "But his bow
was firmly in placed and his arms were
gilded from the hands of the mighty
power of Jacob from there, shepherd of
the stone of Israel."
Now Rashi mentions what what's been a
bow. This is part of the idea of his his
ability to conquer his yates. The bow is
that which shoots arrows. So it's kind
of like a hint to the idea of the uh the
member down below that shoots
straight arrows. Okay. And let's see
there you know some interesting parts of
Rashi but I want to so there's a
measures that says that he he overcame
his so much he stuck his hands into the
ground and out of his hands between his
fingers the semen protruded meaning that
he did not
he did not fall for the seduction but
rather he held himself back and the
excretion if that's the word came out
from somewhere else as opposed to the
member itself.
So this is the strength is the Evan of
Israel. He became the leader of the
Jewish people through his strength
and the strength of overcoming his
andalu
the sages
agree to this as it says in now this is
a very interesting concept
is any man god forbid that comes on to a
married woman
in the end he'll search for even a loaf
of bread meaning the poverty will hit
him so hard
he cannot even find and we're going to
discuss this a little bit because I
copied a piece from the ben I'd like to
share that with you before we get to
that
this Is Yseph still speaking to his
brothers? If it was not for the fact
that I came to this place that was so
stooped in sexual immorality,
perhaps a different person would have
been chosen to fix to remedy the years
of famine.
But after that, it actually occurred to
me
that I was the one that was sold to this
nation of Egypt. and what they're known
for.
There was nobody amongst the population
of the settlement of Egypt who was more
fitting than me because they were all
stooped in zema. How can someone who
himself is impoverished and cannot even
find a loaf of bread, how can he be the
solution to feeding an entire nation? It
has to be someone who's not in that
position. We'll call it a spiritual
station of poverty.
That being true
that sale that eventually brought me to
here to Egypt
that's what caused me that was what
brought about for me
that I was able to be the supporter and
the provider that Hashem sent me before
you.
Okay. So before we go on Oh, maybe we'll
we'll continue on
and then we'll get to the venue.
Just have a quick question.
Yes, please.
One thing I can never understand was why
in the end Yoseph marries Potifur's
daughter.
Here you're talking about immorality and
you're talking about he was able to
withstand the advances but then he he
marries his daughter. How can you
reconcile that? So there's a medish that
tells us
that this daughter Osna of Potifar's
wife,
she was actually adopted.
She was as Jewish as Yseph. She was born
from Dena who was raped by Shm.
And therefore,
and therefore you can ask, as you just
did, how is it that Yosed marries a
local girl
who steep stooped in Zema?
So the medish answers, no, it's not
exactly like that that she's a Jews. I
mean, when she's a benos, right? She's a
daughter of Israel of Yakob. So it makes
her his niece. Let's see how it works.
Is that right? Or aunt. Aunt.
No. No. No.
C. First cousin. All right. We'll figure
it out later.
Okay. Great question.
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In bracoo,
remember this disconcertment,
this dumbfoundedness, this quaking or
fear that overtook them.
Zoo lim alyoma.
This takes this is this should take us
to learn about judgment day. Whatever
judgment day means,
we should learn the lesson from their
reaction to finding out that this was
Yseph
Lazar. Like Rabbi Lazar says,
"Woe is to us for the day of judgment.
Woe is to us for the day of rebuke."
Y what happened here in the case of
Yoseph
when he said to his brothers I
am your I am Yoseph
they were not able to utter a word they
were not able to answer him so now we
understand
when God himself is standing in judgment
over us I'm just adding
How much more how are we able to open
our mouths? So if we look at Isaiah
10:3
and what can you do? How can you act?
What are you going to act? What are you
going to do? What are you going to say
on the day of judgment? It says over
there.
So the brothers thought Yroa
that was going through their mind that
Yseph was reminding them of their sin
as we already explained.
And what will a man do on that day of
judgment?
Cuz what's being visited upon him?
That's the word here. is coming to, you
know, be judged on his actions, on all
of his different types of actions. When
he sat, when he ran, when he did
business,
as it says in Jobad,
that through man or the through the hand
of man, all of his actions will be
sealed, will be judged. Lomar and it
says in your miyahu Jeremiah
2 verse 23 I didn't mention we're in job
in Job 27:7
and now we're in Yer verse chapter 23
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God is talking to Israel see you know
seeing your ways he's he knows
everything whatever we do even in the
darkest of of rooms even in the most
hidden of places.
And according to the opinion of Rebi
Elazaru,
this is the very reason that the Torah
itself writes that the brothers were
disconcerted or dumbfounded or I'd like
to say in shock and
were trembling.
[Music]
In order that the spiritually sensitive
person will place on his heart meaning
being pay attention
in the word
is a trembling on the that judgment day
and that we're able to learn as a
consequence of logic
is is like that that we should be able
to learn from the
reaction of the the brothers of Yoseph
how we're how much how we are supposed
to act and re and understand how awesome
is the day of judgment. So I just want
to bring the gamora in gamora
on I think it's dal.
So it just mentions about the idea of
washing hands for bread that if you fail
to wash your hands for bread. It's like
you come upon an isa is which means a
prostitute
and it brings down a verse in Misha.
So, let me find this verse in
in um Proverbs 6:26.
In Proverbs 6:26, what do we find?
I'll give you the whole uh run for your
money. 6:26.
So it says
because for the sake of a lentious
woman, one may beg for a loaf of bread.
An adulterous woman can ens snare a
precious soul. So it's really the first
part of a lentious woman and read in
Hebrew
is zona prostitute.
you will come to beg for a loaf of
bread.
So based on that verse, that's why and
we're not going to get into it. If you
don't wash your hands for bread, you may
come to what he says
that there's a connection there. But
over here now, he says,
"Hi
that anybody who goes after prostitutes,
chases after prostitutes, uses them, in
the end he will become so impoverished.
So the Benyhod on this verse, on this
concept in the Gammorrah, he says a few
different things. Before I open up what
he says, what do you guys think? Why is
it that a man who chases a prostitute
should become impoverished?
Perhaps due to infidelity
uh being in committing an infidelity
against his own wife. This is your
punishment.
Why why is that the punishment? In other
words, if we think of mida kg mida, all
punishments are are meed out of love so
that one would wake up and change his
ways. In order to change his ways, he
has to know what he did wrong. So,
usually the way it works is that the
punishment is measure for measure so the
person realizes what he did because he
may have five sins.
Interestingly enough, I just heard M.
Rabbi Misrai on a on a uh tape and he
mentions that that's to the mercy of
Hashem because uh what happens when you
you come across a certain punishment and
you're trying to figure it out. So you
figure out all the you make a you you
accounting of your soul and try to
figure it out. In the meantime, you may
find five sins. So uh you do chuva for
all five because you don't know which
one it is exactly. So guy so even though
we say me it's not it measure for
measure is it's not always clear.
The clearer it is the more precise you
can be to fix that one sin. But since
it's not so clear that's the mercy of
Hashem
that for that one punishment we can
figure out and do chuva for five sins
and not see the other four punishments
come upon us cuz we metake we fixed the
four other sins on the way of fixing
that one that wasn't so clear.
So I don't know I mean first thing I
thought if someone gets very addicted to
such an act so then he'll spend all his
money and he'll become impoverished but
that's maybe superficial the way the
brings it down he says
anyone who comes upon a prostitute
in the end he will see seek out a loaf
of bread he doesn't find any so he says
nearly
It seems to me with God's help to
explain
that this is precisely measure for
measure
that a woman is called a loaf of bread
on the verse if you want to look it up.
Verse 39 verse 6.
Let's look it up real quick. This is uh
I said 39 verse 6 in Genesis
six.
Sorry it's taking so long.
So this is talking about the success of
Yoseph in the house.
And it happened from that time, this is
verse 5. And it happened that from that
time he appointed him in his house. And
over all that he had, Hashem blessed the
Egyptians house on Joseph's account. And
Hashem's blessing was in all that he had
had and in the house and in the field.
Now verse six, he left all that he had
in Joseph's custody, and he did not know
anything that was with him except for
the bread he ate. Now Yseph was handsome
of form and handsome of appearance. So
I'm not so sure how clear it is, but
Rashi says except for the breadto
that is his wife,
but it's speaking in a clean language in
a nice language. So the idea that a wife
is considered the person's bread
and therefore what happens? So we see
that it seems like since the reason that
she's called bread, it says
that the only blessing that all the
parnasa, all the welfare, all the
blessings that come to a man in his
house is coming to him on account of his
wife. as it says also if you look in
Genesis 12:16 regarding Abraham is
a so let's look real quick of Abraham's
relationship with his wife Sara it says
in chapter 12:E1 16
12 verse 16
this is also when Abraham was in in in
in Egypt and he treated Abra well, for
her sake.
Obviously, we can be talking in shot
about Pharaoh and he acquired flocks.
We're talking about perhaps Hashem. Aam
was treated well for her sake and he
acquired flocks and cles and donkeys and
slaves and made servants and female
dunkeys and camels. All of Abraham's
wealth was on account of her her being
his wife. So, we see this idea
So inside someone's house, that's where
you find the mazone. Mazone is a word
for nourishment and food. It's also
interesting because the word for a
prostitute is a
very closely related
and we know that the concept of any suda
is called and he brings down a few few
proofs in Daniel 5:E1
that says
he made a great feast
infielap
Chapter 20 verse 27 it also talks about
a suda that David did not come to but it
uses the word elim but we know that it
was a suda so here here's the concept
that the the ben brings down why it's
now we know that a wife is called
breadosto
he was disgusted by his own wife who was
permitted to
which was the bread.
And he, in other words, she was the
blessed one. And yet he left her and he
abandoned her and went to a isa,
a um a prostitute.
And therefore anyone who's looking for
another, you know, loaf of bread
and he's not going to find
um well, we'll we could stop there and
we'll continue on. I hope that gave you
some insight to this idea that Yoseph
felt he earned this. He was granted this
position of par Marnes of being able to
supply a livelihood because he did not
see seep stoop down into this world of
sexual immorality.
Okay. So now we're going back and now
we're going to verse 4. We're back in 45
verse4.
and I'm there. Okay. So, what did Yseph
say? I'll read in English first. Then
Yseph said to his brothers, "Come close
to me if you please." And they came
close. And he said, remember I told you,
he said, "I'm Yseph." A second time. He
says, "I am Yoseseph your brother, me
whom you sold to Egypt." So, we're going
to dissect this verse.
As the clear mentions, he says,
"Come close to me." And they came close.
Herm shahoo.
He showed them that he was circumcised.
Come close. Real close.
And he showed them that his member was
circumcised.
He wanted to show them how righteous he
was
that he was yes in this society and yet
he did not fall prey he did not stumble
in sexual immorality because there's a
concept that says this is by Jews kobois
any guy who would come to a non-Jew
Shika, a non-Jewish woman. Mashka or Los
in Aravan. It mentions that he would try
to pull the skin that had been removed,
the other remaining skin over his member
to make it appear as if he was
uncircumcised.
The reason for this probably is because
the Jews were shunned. They were
secondass citizens and it wasn't
necessarily somebody that you would a
non-Jews would want to be with because
of their low status. So to gain a higher
status and this is what the Jewish men
in Hellenist period did as well in we
just passed Hanukkah in order to
helanize themselves. One of the things
that they would try to do is to show you
know when bathous that they were not
circumcised and they extended or pulled
the skin over.
Okay. So mitsina so what do we find? We
find out is that there are four things
that Israel merited to be redeemed. And
I think this is a true today
that the Jewish people were redeemed
from Egypt in the merit on account of
four things
that they kept their Jewish names. They
did not change their names to Gregory
or Andrew.
Okay. Mark Luth. Okay. and Luke
and they didn't change their language.
They kept Hebrew and the third
they weren't peddlers of gossip. And
fourth,
and they guarded themselves against
sexual immoral immoral immoral acts
mentions
and the clear himself explains the
reason which we'll get to in a few
weeks. Shem's rock with God's help.
So too here Yseph is revealing to his
brothers the secret of what they need to
do to keep themselves let's say Jewish
so that they would have the merit of
being redeemed as the Jewish people.
And he sent after his brothers, his
father and his brothers
to inform them, to make known to them,
so they should know
on account of which merits of what they
should do in order to be to go up away
from Egypt. Eventually, they're going to
be redeemed and what you need to do to
guard yourselves.
And he hinted to them these four things.
And Yseph had perfected himself or he
was complete in all four of these
aspects. Number one, shalom shimo. He
did not change his name. That's why he
said to them,
now what? Who who who cares? Why would
he change his name?
Safat
Pak in the in if you look in chapter 41
verse 45 that Pharaoh called him a
different name. He called him Safnat
Panea. But he didn't call himself that.
He called himself Yseph. It's nice that
he had a nickname, you know, but he
didn't go by that name. He might have
turned when Pharaoh turned to him, you
know, called him. He wouldn't be that
but he called himself
and even though nevertheless I am still
that is my name forever I didn't change
my name that's it
and they did and and they should not
change their language either
as it says
so this verse verse.
I just want to show you the actual
verse. It's right here.
I can't find it. But he said to them,
that's the words he used. He spoke to
them. And he since he spoke to them it
it was inferred that he spoke to them in
lashes
and he didn't you know break through any
fences with sexual morality guarded
himself. The word gdur is offense. Perut
means to break through the fence. So he
was not breaking through any type of
guarding when it came to keeping
sexually pure shinar. That's why he says
come close to me shahu mah to show them
that he was circumcised and not as we
mentioned by by pulling the skin
overhara.
And he also wanted to prove to them not
to be peddlers of gossip
also through these words come close to
me. Why did he say come close to me?
He didn't even want Binyam to know
anything about the the fact that his own
brothers sold him. Binyammen was 10
years old at the time. He was a young
boy. He wasn't involved. So in the in
the original sale and apparently all
these years not maybe not just binam
perhaps see there is a doubt but perhaps
even Jacob
didn't know either
and even to his own father he didn't say
a word
that if he would have said the story
about the sale to his own father
then certainly
Yakov would have um commanded
the the son sons before his own death,
right? Place upon you the um the the the
sin uh that you cause the sin of the
salv
hinted to them
but rather on the the sin of selling you
actually helped pay pay up the
obligation
we actually you know Alraham was told at
the birth of 30 years before the birth
of Yeetszak Isaac that his children will
be slaves and they'll be wanderers
they'll be nomads they'll be strangers
in a land that's not theirs for 400
years
So during that time, Yseph was part of
this traveling out of the land of
Israel. So there was a part of this
payment towards that 400 years. Some of
these years are attributed to that.
You got to remember Yakov
comes down to Egypt as a result of this
as well. So this is also part of the
full 400 years being outside of the
land.
the
now
we said don't be distressed
don't be distressed now don't be so sad
of Allah but what's going to happen in
the future
you will they will be sad
therefore he hinted to them also about
the redemption
Habim
that all these things are going to bring
about the redemption, the final
redemption. We're talking about the all
of the staying out of the land of Israel
for the 400 years, the going down to
Egypt and the keeping of these four
things and not changing them. There
would be an eventual redemption.
However, some say when it says
now
that in the future, unfortunately,
they're going to be 10 great rabbis who
are going to be killed by the Romans.
And in the future, you will be
distressed or they will be distressed.
The whole Jewish people will be
distressed because of the sale. Those 10
great rabbis that were killed. Rabbi Kib
was one of them. Ishmael and on and on
these rabbis went through an
excruciating painful death. And before
the when they were told they were going
to die, the story is that one of them
went and requested from heaven to find
out if this is really from heaven and
they should accept it or they should
fight it and hide and do whatever they
could to fight it. And the word from
heaven was no, this is from heaven. This
is a punishment for the sale of Yak of
Yoseph. Only 10 brothers were involved
in the sale. And that's why there were
10 um great sages that were killed as a
tikun so to speak, a punishment or a
fixing for this horrible sale of our
brother Yoseph.
Any questions?
I have a few. Yeah.
If you believe that in Gilgul
and the sale did not take place,
how would the Jew Jewish people have
gotten into Egypt?
Well, this is what Yseph is saying to
them that he was an instrument. It was
not just me. I'm an instrument in God's
hands. You are feeling guilty and you
should. But keep in mind, you don't have
to feel that guilty. In other words,
this is Yoseseph talking, not God. No,
he's taking them off the uh
to a certain extent. He's not taking
them off the hook. They still had free
will. Okay? Like any if something has to
happen, this is what I understood. Let's
say for example, at some point at some
point the Jews had to go through
whatever it was in the Holocaust. At
some point, I don't know what it means.
We deserved it. It was part of history.
That had to happen.
A man like Hitler Yak Shimo
didn't have to be the man that did it.
It could have been anybody. Somebody had
to do it.
And is he off the hook? No. Because he
stepped into the shoes.
So, so to with Pharaoh, if the Jews had
to be enslaved for 400 years or in this
case 210 years or really maybe 80 years,
at some point Pharaoh had to do it.
But what we understood from Midash is
that Pharaoh overdid it. That's why
Pharaoh was punished. Otherwise, what
kind of why would God punish the person
he sent on a mission? When God sends
someone on a mission, you should be get
rewarded, not punished. I'm sure Hitler
overdid it. I'm sure he's punished. I'm
sure that Pharaoh overdid it. I'm sure
he's punished. Um, but in terms of
trying to answer that,
on one hand there's fate
and on the other hand there's free will.
So, how can it be? I think this is your
question. How can it be? If somebody
like the brothers went ahead and sold
him into slavery, why should there be a
punishment at all? This only brought
about the ultimate redemption. It was
how they did it. They threw him into a
pit who had no water, had snakes. They
soldi knew they were going to Egypt. Who
said it had to be Egypt? Okay, so God
looked into the Torah and created the
world. Somehow we have to understand
what that means. But we're basically
pondering the equation between faith and
free will. And that's a longer
discussion, but I hope I gave you just a
little bit of an insight to start with.
And one other point,
does the midrash deal at all with Ruvane
and how he responds to when I mean here
is the oldest brother, he was bered for
not uh for not trying to save Yoseph,
you know, at first. He came back later,
it was too late. Now when he sees that
Yoseph in fact is alive, is the midrash
deal with
I'm not familiar with all the midrashim,
but I'll try to look into it for you.
Not that anything off off the top of my
head.
In other words, he being the eldest, he
should have been the most responsible.
Was that the indication?
Because it was Yehuda that stepped
forward, but Yehuda already had stepped
forward prior to Yakov and mentioned
that he would give himself as a
guarantor.
I mean to a certain extent Ruvane
already lost the Bur ship if I could use
that the firstborn rights and then it
was transferred to you Ley and Shimon
Ley kind of kept we'll call let's say
like you had Mot
and Kahuna whatever those represent
kingship and priesthood together in Ruv
Ruv lost it and it was handed down Shim
and Ley. Shim and Ley to a certain
extent were in a little bit of trouble
with their father Yakov with how they
but loah it's not so bad
but Ley got it back when he didn't
involve himself with the sin of the
golden calf where Shim lost it due to
this uh deal of Mishk. So then so Levy
kept priesthood and kingship went down
to Yehuda. So Yehuda stepped up to the
plate here
and he was able to keep or earn or get
back kingship. So you have even though
everything was unified in Ruvane, Ruvane
lost it due to the situation with the
beds perhaps even with this situation
here with the original sale.
But uh Yehuda stepped up to the plate as
kingship would and should and he got to
keep kingship. So I don't know exactly.
We'll have to see what the major says
about comment. I I forget the commentary
but I read that uh this is the pivotal
transition when you're taking brothers
and they're they're going through a
transition into tribes and into you know
the formation of a nation. And isn't it
so ironic that people who have such
flawed characters and even when YaKob
gives them the blessings, they're not
they're not praiseworthy blessings, um
that these are, you know, this is the
formative stave of of the Jewish people.
Look, they were they were definitely
sadikim
and they were greater than we could even
imagine. And yet the Torah mentions all
their faults. That's the the strength
about the Torah itself that if people
claim that it was written by man, I
mean, if I was a man, I was writing a
book, I'd leave out all the faults, you
know. So the fact that our own
historical document is so chock full of
let's use the word false even for as we
see by Yehuda and different things and
for sure by David and and so on and so
forth that uh it it it stands up to
testify that this is beyond the human
reasoning as an author because a human
author would never have left so many
faults
That's might if that helps but uh
and also might help to inspire others to
achieve greater than what they might
otherwise seeing how even these great
individuals had plenty of faults just as
you know anyone else would today.
Any other questions?
Have a good chabish everybody. Wish you
much love.