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What Can We Learn from Chanukah? - Part 4 - Rabbi Dr. David Gottlieb
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I just want to start with reporting on
something it was in today's times I the
irony I know they waited till now to
publish it they found something in 2009
and that's reporting on it now what is
it it's a large table sized artifact
found in a synagogue in the Galil
excavated and it comes from during the
Second Temple period and this it has you
know it's not just flat but it has sides
and on the sides there are very
elaborate carvings of the Temple in
Jerusalem and this has caused a major
revolution in the thinking of at least
some historians I'll admit a snide
remark their thinking was that
synagogues were we call synagogues but
the Knesset were like community centers
during Second Temple period place where
people got together and maybe they
talked and discussed and debated and
plans community actions as over the so
on and then when the temple was
destroyed and the sacrifice is no longer
could be offered then it was turned into
a place of prayer that was their
attitude but then why would you have one
of these community centers at a time
when the temple is existing and the
sacrifices are going on using those
motifs to decorate this community center
maybe could it be that the beit knesset
the community center was used for prayer
even then and that's up ending all their
assumptions about the way in which
prayer developed turns over the zone now
that's especially ironical for us
because our tradition tells us that
organized prayer was invented at the
beginning of the Second Temple period
prayer and sacrifices went hand in hand
for four hundred and twenty years so of
course a bit less than the time of the
Second Temple was used for prayer of
course it was / have been going on for
you for hundreds of years the end of the
Second Temple period why these
historians of Judaism don't take
seriously our documents you have to ask
them our documents are just fantasy
they're made up there they have no
historical value all of a sudden is a
direct confirmation for it indeed the
Talmud is very careful with this
language when it describes the creation
of formalized prayer it uses the word
connected the prayers were created to
correspond to the sacrifices not in
place of the sacrifices but to
correspond with the sacrifices and
indeed if you want to trace it back
further there's a famous verse in Isaiah
where Isaiah is talking about when the
temple will be restored and rebuilt and
the verse says varios email hikuushi you
see my theme of a steel c-loc hem is it
avail the rotten Elizabeth II keep a sea
bass pou Caray the hollow I mean I will
bring turn to a holy mountain and cause
them to rejoice in my house of prayer
their sacrifices will be acceptable on
the altar because my house will be
called the house of prayer for all
nations now if you read that verse and
pay attention it could raise questions
in your mind Isaiah starts piccoli it
has a player then he describes what's
going to happen there what's going on
there is sacrifices and then he says
because it has a prayer so how is house
of prayer the right title for the temple
of which sacrifices were offered
apparently in Isaiah's mind
prayer and sacrifices go hand in hand
and the place of sacrifices is called
house of prayer that's Isaiah at the end
of the first Temple period what about
Solomon Solomon built the temple and the
beginning of the book of Kings first
book of Kings chapters 5 6 7 8 Solomon
dedicates the temple me go i read it i
recommend you read it the only activity
that solomon associates with the temple
is prayer if all you had was Solomon's
dedication you wouldn't know that they
were sacrifices there at all when Jews
pray there please hear them when she was
pray for other places their prayers will
go to you through the temple and hear
them when non-jews pray here the moso
and answer them that's all he talks
about so prayer and sacrifices go hand
in hand in the earliest sources the
temple is destroyed there was no
organized prayer but idea of prayer the
performance of prayer the spiritual
entity of prayer exists all the way back
Isaac prade's firs his wife to become
pregnant Moses prayed for his sister to
become cured of leprosy the beginning of
the Second Temple the rabbi's got
together and organized prayer to
correspond to the sacrifice that's what
it says in the Talmud prayer corresponds
can negate the sacrifices and they went
Hampton here for 400 years so finding
this table this Magdalene stone in the
in the Galil which was from it as a
synagogue and it clearly indicates that
it has relationship to the temple it's
carrying over the spirit the temple for
us that's gold we've been saying that
since 12 2,500 years ago but this upset
all the Jewish historians because now
there are theories of how prayer arrived
in synagogues as a result of the
structure the Second Temple all of that
of course is now bunk and now that's a
rethink of course have they taken our
sources seriously even its possibility
for investigation or thought that it
wouldn't be so upsetting but they don't
take our sources seriously there are
sources count for nothing so it's just
and this goes on all the time they
attention the archaeology last 10 years
the number of things have been found
which correspond to our tradition
are really astonishing and you can old
enough to live through enough of it and
you accumulate these these findings you
get to feel that the critics are just
willfully ignoring what is historically
not a valid material okay now talking
again about Greece and our attitude
towards Greek life and Greek values one
of the things that Greece stressed as a
cultural value is beauty they excelled
at painting in it at statuary
architecture indeed now I'm not a story
I'm reading snippets here and there so I
speak on the correction of what I've
read one of the things that the Greeks
introduced is the idea that beauty is
not something that belongs in a museum
everyday life should be surrounded by
beauty so you have functional vessels
for use in the kitchen or use in dining
with beautiful pictures on the on the
vessels it's not something you do as a
localized specialized activity like
going to museum but something you should
be surrounded by in life why the
philosophy of beauty is just as confused
today as it has been for thousands of
years there's no clear understanding of
it but many simply recognize that there
is something in experiencing
contemplating interacting with your mind
your sensitivities your heart with a
thing of beauty does something good for
you and me what exactly good it does I
had one professor who told me was all
cognitive because that was his bias and
he made some very good points there was
Nelson Goodman wrote a book or languages
apart and there are many others was
catharsis releasing pent-up emotions and
giving you better it's an emotional
health or whatever but people recognize
and every every
culture has this expression of beauty
though some of the styles vary but but
some of them are common and every
culture has an appreciation of beauty
now does Judaism does the torah care
about beauty is it a topic is it
anywhere mentioned in any positive or
negative context well as a matter of
fact the Torah tells us that certain
women were very beautiful Rebecca was
very beautiful Rachel was very beautiful
Esther was very beautiful and lest
someone fall into the mental sloth of
misogyny and think oh that's just
because they're talking about women
Joseph is also described as very
beautiful and he's a man now these are
great people there's not just a casual
observation anything that you do it's a
description of someone whom the text
treats as a hero has got to be very
significant should we think of this as a
kind of handicap look how great they
became in spite of the fact that they
were beautiful doesn't seem so does it
seem so nothing in the context indicates
of that so and Jacob was they certainly
noticed her beauty and that was
something that he took into account in
resolving to marry her well there's a
famous verse in the end of the Mishler
Proverbs which we say every Friday night
singing your praise of the Jewish woman
and that is shekarau hain heavily yofi
in sherry recession-hit asala false is
charm and beauty is empty the woman who
has awe and fear for God she shall be
praised ha there you have it black and
white charm and beauty are false and
empty worthless obviously the Torah is
against these things but then it is
against these things how we're going to
understand that these words are used to
describe
the greatest people in history and the
oral tradition so I can't say that I
know the whole tradition obviously I'm
not aware of any source anywhere
indicating the fact that these heroes of
the scriptures were beautiful is somehow
a handicap that they had to overcome
Joseph beautified himself
inappropriately and was attacked by part
of his wife but that's because he took
care to enhance his beauty not because
he was beautiful the gone of Vilna has a
very remarkable comment on that verse in
michigan proverbs he says false is charm
and empty is beauty when it's only
external when it's only external but the
second half of the verse rehabilitates
it the second of the verse says a woman
who has all unfair for God she shall be
praised and says the governor bill she
should be praised for her beauty because
if her inner reality is that of great oh
and fear for God then the external
beauty reflects that in a reality and
that it's right it's appropriate it's
good to be beautiful the problem in
beauty is not that beauty is negative
this is the theme that I started with
three days ago these other beauty is
negative it does it creates a false
impression it creates a false reaction
it attracts it dazzles it draws you in
it draws you in with with your sense of
preciousness and value to something
which may indeed be terrible but when
the beauty matches the inner when it
creates an attitude towards something
which is appropriate for the inner
reality than the beauty enhances it
indeed the city of Jerusalem is
described as beautiful clean losophy the
most exquisite expression of beauty so
that being the case the question is not
what's that not an attitude towards
beauty and per se but the reaction that
beauty provokes whether it's appropriate
to the substance that lies behind it
I'll give you an example of the kind of
psychological subtlety that I'm talking
about I'm often asked whether it's
appropriate to reflash
these people who are trying to run their
lives according to Jewish values and
Jewish fidelity and I say first of all
it's a legal question you have to go to
someone who's competent to give but she
was legal ruling that's not me I'm not
comedy to do that but he asked me as
someone who studied philosophy I would
say that it's only dangerous if you read
a little the danger is you read a little
and you think that what you read is true
if we a lot you'll find out that in
philosophy every question has five
inches and every answer has five
objections philosophy is a mess and you
want to see this you want to verify what
I'm saying shouldn't take what I say for
granted look at my hat you shouldn't
trust me look at the stanford
encyclopedia of philosophy online and
look up any subject there are written by
leaders in professional philosophy and
the outline of any subject has four or
five different views on the subject and
these are the standard objections and
this is where they contradict one
another that's the way it is possible so
the dangers in reading a little flaws we
read a lot of it you'll come to
understand that there's an enormous
amount of controversy when I make make
reference to second the philosophy my
point is almost always simply our
position isn't ruled out because some of
the leaders hold our position and of
course there are others who disagree
because there are people disagree with
everything but reading novels that's
much more dangerous that's much more
dangerous because when you read
philosophy and the writer says this is
true and this is why so you're on your
guard oh really it is true that's why is
that a good enough reason what other
reasons could I think of we really novel
you reading for enjoyment for escape and
you naturally identify with the agents
in the novel and then you can be fed
philosophy without your critical
faculties working it's much more
dangerous to read novels maybe that's
why I'm doing a little bit of my
negative thinking about certain groups
and nationalities maybe that's why the
Philosopher's in France in the middle of
the 20th century they said just last
week wrote novels I Sartre wrote novels
and
kibou wrote novels because you get your
philosophy across the people who aren't
thinking too clearly an rant wasn't the
philosopher at all no one ever reads her
work no discusses her in any of us out
philosophy department anywhere but she
wrote my monumental novels Atlas
Shrugged when I was in college
everybody's really nad and then
depressed by what by the strength of the
characters who happen to mouth certain
philosophies but not by argument not by
reasoning so it's much more dangerous
because the novel draws you in it draws
you to identify with the characters and
their experiences and their challenges
than their ups and downs successes and
failures and the philosophy that you're
being told goes in by the by was it by
the by nature sometimes is cited in
these discussions I taught philosophy
Johns Hopkins a very small department
only 10 of us every thesis had to be
monitored by three monitors three
faculty members very rarely could you
find three faculty members who are
expert in the subject that the subject
was writing about the students writing
about I happen to be the third monitor
thesis on each if I know anything about
DJ never read him seriously okay I could
read what he wrote and check the
internal consistencies over the song i
said to the student you're doing your
thesis on nietzsche find me one argument
and argument to a conclusion that's
controversial designed to convince
someone who might not agree with him and
an argument that's compelling in terms
of logic find me one one in the whole
corpus he says there aren't any there
aren't any Nietzsche wrote poetry he
wrote a very powerful political language
and he described his position and people
are sucked into the poetry come on
feeling wow wow that's really terrific i
won you know but there's nothing there
in terms of substance of reason there's
nothing there so this is the danger now
this is danger with beauty why do you
use beautiful women to sell automobiles
because you're not going to check the
acceleration acta the sharkbite spark
plugs x check the the the the emissions
haha the beautiful girl standing there
so I'm hip the thighs with the car right
that's to turn off your reason to turn
off your critical thinking to suck you
into by the lowest part of your nature
and that's the danger now not there it's
obviously danger people know it that
doesn't stop the appetizer using it and
they only use it because it works
otherwise they wouldn't use it even
though you know it but it still works
but in other cases like the fabulous
language of nature it can be used and
the novels that you know in my time who
didn't read the dirty hands by Sartre or
the stranger by camus everybody write
those novels and that's the danger so
now the crucial thing is that when we
use beauty it has to correctly express
the inner reality so this is what you
have with Rebecca and with Rachel and
with Joseph and with Esther all of them
are beautiful because they reflected and
inner reality and therefore because it
was there was a common essence between
the extra of a beauty in a reality
that's what the governor Vilna says can
be praised she can be praised for the
beauty itself because it's a reflection
of that in reality now what would be
good to have here is some really really
solid aesthetics to figure out what
beauty does and then to apply how it
expresses that in a reality trouble is
that aesthetics is a mess it's much of a
backwater in philosophy usually the best
philosophers don't go into aesthetics
partly because it's a it's a wasteland
with very little progress has been made
I read a very powerful book by Gary
gutting of Notre Dame about a year ago
anesthetics and I was very moved by I
thought he had some very interesting
but it's very difficult so I can tell
you a few things which are external view
things that are that are worthwhile
which we can use but I don't in any way
pretend that this is complete or it's a
critical or even that won't be changed
in the future it's just some things that
I think are pretty close to the surface
which might have a which might have a
application much beauty is characterized
by harmony harmony means organization
there's some kind of theme and the
elements in the work of art whatever it
is all reinforce that theme you can see
how they're related you can see how they
do this you take a painting so painting
will have a foreground a certain
subjects you don't have a background and
they'll be if it's a forest scene so in
the foreground there would be some
animals usually wild animals in some
kind of posture in some kind of activity
and then you have the vegetation and you
have the time of day and you have the
quality of the air all and it all
creates an integrated portrayal and 28 a
portrayal of a single theme perceiving
it and seeing how all the pieces fit
together is part of the idea of harmony
and that's part of it i'm not that
harmony is part of the idea of beauty
now let me quote to you something which
is relevant this context and see if we
can we can apply it when sarah dies the
Torah says that she was a hundred years
20 years and seven years each time it
says years so they're all tradition
comments this is to teach you that there
are comparisons between her ages she was
at a hundred as guiltless as she was at
20 and by the way this refers to a
certain tradition that in the eyes of
heaven a person has not become an adult
for the age of 20 in the eyes of a civil
court on a criminal court that's the age
of 13 for a boy 12 for a girl from there
on they commit any crimes they'll be
penalized by the civil court as adults
but in the eyes of heaven
only happens at the age of 20 so
automatically in the eyes of heaven but
you're guiltless at 20 she was as
guiltless at a hundred and she was at 20
you can imagine what that means about
her character and she was as beautiful
at 20 as she was at seven she was as
beautiful at 20 she was at seven what is
that we blaring arrived three daughters
and last counts something over 50 grand
children approximately 50 50 boys and
girls and approximately ten
great-grandchildren also we've seen a
lot of little girls grow up some of our
female progeny were very beautiful the
age of seven look at them and you look
twice you don't say what what you look
twice but what kind of beauty is that
you might even use the word attractive
but obviously you're not talking about
something sexual there's something in
the innocence the sense of poise the
sense of understanding that attracts
your attention I was in California at
some kind of function and there was a
BBQ it was a long line of people waiting
to get to get food I was standing in
line with everybody else and a young
girl probably about seven years old came
over to me and said would you like me to
get you some food I don't know a
complete stranger I thought wow she's
coming over to a person who is an
unknown adult and dresses very
peculiarly right and somehow she thought
I shouldn't have to stand in line
waiting for the food I thought wow you
know that attracts your admiration
attracts your attention a beauty of a
seven-year-old can do that now imagine a
twenty-year-old was beautiful like that
you look at her and you say wow but
there's absolutely no sexual attraction
whatsoever
just something about her you know think
if you achieve that age 20 you have
achieved something I think that's unique
I can't imagine anybody and it's
certainly in the Western world a 20 year
old who's really beautiful having no
attraction whatsoever it's a farthest
thing from you right when you look at
her all you see is something of charm
harmony substance poise and no sexual
attraction whatsoever so the tradition
is saying something about the theme of
her beauty what theme did it project and
then every aspect of it projected that
theme that's one element of beauty the
idea of harmony organization of a myriad
of things which support this one idea or
one thing also the support shouldn't be
mechanical we're not talking about you
know just taking bricks and putting them
on top of one another you see it 80
story building in Manhattan is made out
of bricks it's organized all right and
roll Express is one theme you know all
the bricks are on the same position you
know row by row floor by floor but no
the theme has to express the way that's
not obvious certain things work into the
FEMEN things uh-huh now I see because
this is here that state that has to be
over there and that's you know and when
you're first attracted you may not see
how we fit together but there's
something there which has that that that
impression and as you look into it more
and by the way this especially applies
in art like music I was a musician music
is crucially different let's say from
from pictures because pictures present
all at once music realize critically on
memory you have to be able to remember
what happens at the beginning in the
middle to appreciate the end and usually
brings the themes together in a certain
way and sometimes things happen in the
beginning or the middle and two seem
very peculiar like what are you doing
there and only to remember it to the end
you see how the composer brings them
together so that's one element of
of beauty and that is certainly an
element that was used in the temple the
temple had artistic touches in many
places statuary there were statues in
the Holy of Holies statues of angels and
the covering of the of the they aren't
called name is the box with which the
tablets we put our key are critical in
art and the divider which was which was
a tapestry and it was woven in various
images indeed according to some the
images on the inside the outside were
quite different images and I was still
woven all the way through kind of
artistic Marvel and the themes almost
everything in that in the tabernacle is
gold almost everything is called the
earth you touches the silver here and
there but almost everything is gold
golden our traditions signifies strict
justice silver signifies loving kindness
and mercy gold signify strict justice so
then as a message what's going on in the
temple it's supposed to be satisfactory
to God on the highest demands the
highest standards no mercy nothing like
a half half shot a performance guys it's
ok you know you tried so it's perfectly
all right no here the standards of the
high esteem and then that reflects on
the performance that the priests to go
through because they're doing it in a
context of gold so this type of
organizing a myriad of items under a
single theme is something that expresses
beauty and that's something which we
definitely use in terms of our in terms
of what about music some of you know
that in the temple the the sacrifice
were accompanied by music even the
Psalms when you say the title of Assam
some of them is more mismo sheer or
sheer ms more sheer does not mean
someone
usually does not mean song sheer means
poetry in an older form of English 200
years ago they talked about song as
poetry sonnets were called songs sheer
means so ms for me as means means poetry
ms more means music zemer is music so ms
more she means it's a poem that was put
to music Sherman's war means sometimes
it was music to which poetry was fitted
that Levites had acquired and had an
orchestra in the temple and they used
music to accompany the sacrifices what
we only know what the music was I don't
know that there's any record anywhere of
what the actual music was but the
auditory integration and as I said
visual is presented all at once though
it may take you time to digest all that
but presented all at once auditory
requires memory requires continuous a
continuity of experience so you had both
types of aesthetic expression going on
simultaneously both of them to integrate
into the central service of God that
took place in the temple vocal
aesthetics is something which has
accompanied the Jewish people for
thousands of years when you go into a
synagogue if you have a gifted cousin
and they're even concerts of house
honest but the prayers when you have a
gift to the house and he uses it to to
beautify the prayer which can certainly
be done I've heard then hundreds of
times is something which is again a
aesthetic projection now this point that
i made you at the beginning was brought
home to be very forcefully when i was in
a certain synagogue and i was listening
to the husband singing in a beautiful
voice and friend of mine said to me what
do you think he's thinking about that
killed it because he's clearly thinking
about his voice he's really thinking
about how to hit the high note clear
thinking about the aesthetics of the
performance that isn't supposed to be
what it is he's supposed to be thinking
about the spiritual message and the
music is supposed to be
a natural expression of the spiritual
message and in his case it wasn't so
then I became a little more I don't need
to be a favor not but get a little more
critical and to think who am i listening
to what's going on inside the same
complaint is that outside and it's a
reflection of the inside or is gonna
reflection of the insights I was I was a
musician I performed hundreds of times
in orchestras and chamber music and and
solo if you become a performing musician
you know if you have to think about the
notes yet the thing about which thing is
to put that for which notes forget it
yeah before me you have to think of the
meaning of the music and then the
fingers flow to express that meaning you
have to be in touch with what the music
is trying to express if you do that then
the notes and you're well trained then
they're also carry themselves that's the
way it has to be the same things true
here and sometimes if you analyze the
text that the person singing you can
tell he stopped at their own place where
he emphasized the wrong thing and then
you know that either he's trying its
best is just out of touch isn't enough
of a scholar to know where the emphasis
should be or is not thinking about the
text at all the words are just their
soul is beautiful voice can show it's a
show it's all off that's not the beauty
we're talking about it's where the
beauty expresses the inner character of
the person now let's work backwards if
we're talking about harmony as an
element of beauty harmony and something
that's organized fit well well crafted
what about the inside I came across
something which I guess I should have
known I'd rather before better to make
an impact on me my first chapter this is
assuring what's translated as the path
of the just whatever that means he says
he's talking about our relationship to
the physical pleasure and he says as
everyone says physical pleasures
dangerous people can overemphasize it
can become addicted to it but it has a
positive place physical pleasure he says
should be used to produce in a person
Nahas luuk
and he shoe Hadassah nasrullah means
satisfaction pleasantness of spirit
satisfaction and pleasantness of spirit
yeshivah das means a collected mind a
clear collected mind so as to be able he
says to turn your heart to the service
of God unreservedly now you have three
things physical pleasure the state of
mind and service of God and he's telling
you the physical pleasures produce a
state of mind and with that state of
mind you can then engage in ideal
service of God what's the state of mind
knock us rua now that will be something
like this how are you fine I'm fine
things are good is it good I'm great
that type of expression not wow I'm
great no no fine I'm fine I'm three
things are good a certain calm a certain
lack of worry and anxiety yes I have
projects yes they might succeed at it
might fail but I'm doing what I'm doing
I believe in what I'm doing I know what
I'm trying to achieve it's important to
try to achieve it things are fine things
are good when I read that recently I
thought to myself is that how I picture
great said he came great righteous
people great leaders of the generation
great saintly holy people I don't think
I really appreciated it before but then
I thought to myself if you are walking
hand in hand with god-like king david
says loi rocky artery Marty I do not
fear evil bakar you because you're with
me he didn't mean because you're with me
I'm immune he suffered every evil that a
person can suffered he suffered every
evil a person could suffer including the
loss of two children one of whom
rebelled against him to started a civil
war but I won't be afraid of the evil
because you're with me there was a very
great man lived in the old city died ten
years ago when he saw me Silverman
great scholar and a gravy created a
whole movement in our community which
now has branches all over the world he
when he was in his last week's someone
asked him are you afraid and he said my
father is holding my hand how could I be
afraid he took that verse King King
David's Twenty twenty third son he took
that that that verse literally he
experienced it that way that's what you
call na hua of Dessler who died of a
heart attack while the heart attack was
occurring he said to the doctor it's
starting here now it's moving across my
chest nothing shook him nothing not even
a heart attack because that's the way he
was trained and kelp that's why you were
trained nothing shakes you nothing
destroys your poise your equilibrium
that's natural now beauty which is a
projection of harmony organization
integration beauty can be that kind of
beauty could be an expression of that
kind of inner reality look at the person
and you see that beauty and you say
what's inside if the inside matches that
then the beauty itself becomes positive
why does it beauty become positive
because the beauty itself portrays that
inside I look at the beauty and I say
wow that's not just a mask I knew
someone who liked to wear t-shirts which
reproduces great paintings there was
such a time you know you can read about
in history books no one where that today
you know that's just Western trashy
culture you know the Mona Lisa and
things like that I said why do you want
to wear a cloth that has printed on it
beauty why not make yourself beautiful I
don't mean to go to beauty school I'll
go to a beauty specialist why don't you
work on making yourself beautiful not
just wear pieces of cloth that I've
yuliana because this way when I'm
attracted and I think wow inside that
person there's this kind of reality so a
person could be like
then that beauty has a positive effect
as a positive positive role to play
that's when ya still came the sec oh
holy shame that the progenitor of Greece
can live in an intensive tour and I
think that's the reason why beauty was
used in the temple in the visual and in
architectural and in the the musical and
why we use it in the musical as well and
we do have Illustrated literature by the
way we don't do this anymore in our holy
books but i know from seven eight nine
hundred years ago there are museum
pieces where some of the Holy literature
like like the book of Esther and other
had illustrations in them I don't know
what the status of is legally I'm not
sure I mean the letters some of the word
artistically done this is something
which definitely has a positive place it
just has to be under control now I just
wanted one last remark lest I be
misunderstood there is a kind of
fixation in aesthetics with beauty
Nelson Goodman whom I learned a little
bit of ascetics in graduate school
pointed out that aesthetics has a lot
more to it than beauty some of the
greatest works of art not beautiful at
all they're very disturbing Picasso's
Guernica which is a portrayal of the
Spanish Civil War and it's horrific it's
horrific give you nightmares a few if
you look at it and got played and it is
great art so one should not confuse
great art with beauty and if you want to
talk about what great art is you have to
go much further than than what I have
said some of them are immensely said
sense disturbing Arnold inch the scream
which you look at that it gives me a
headache and there's another one where a
man painted a picture of his wife with a
sad expression with a teardrop coming
out of her eye I saw at the Museum in
Washington many years ago and it was
really saying really see it I don't know
whether the word beauty applies that I
don't want you to think that from my
point of view aesthetics is captured by
beauty alone but we didn't use that type
of aesthetic for whatever reason we
didn't use that type of that we used
beauty out why should I should mention
linguistic
we have poetical passages throughout the
throughout the time and the poetry is
designed to enhance the power of the of
the communication King Castillo who
lived through the siege of Sahara some
crater surrounded rusul with an army and
the one night the army was destroyed by
a miracle the cataumet says that he
could have been the Messiah had he risen
to the challenge that we presented it
what was the challenge to commemorate
that event in Shira as I told you a few
moments ago Shira means poetry how he
commemorate the event and Shira he would
have been the Messiah what greater value
can you put on something that has this
aesthetic character then it could have
converted him and his time and that
event into the times of the Messiah but
it into it Shira somehow commemorates it
incorporates it captures the essence of
an event which no other form can and
that's why Shira is used much of the
prophets express themselves in Shira the
turrets up as she reaches a yam when we
could when the sea was opened and closed
on the Egyptians it's another use of the
aesthetic so that as an aesthetic in
this case being beauty beauty has a very
positive role to play in Jewish life
into our life but it has to be an
expression of the appropriate inner
spiritual reality that's the message
you