Yishai Fleisher Show: The Subtle Art of Returning Lost Objects

[Music] all right folks shalom and welcome to the shy fleischer show where we are broadcasting over both facebook youtube twitter periscope uh and on the land of israel network shalom and welcome everybody we have a fabulous show lined up for you today and we are joined right off the bat by our beloved rabbi rav mike foyer of mike shalom and welcome to the show uh show me guys good to see you there's a lot of people in life who would like to know where that mute button exactly is yeah there's it's it's on the little screen there and i'm managing a lot of different things in order to i just think it just every once in a while well we'd all love to to to mute one another uh sometimes um but one of the things that has muted a lot of people is the coronavirus uh it has muted um it has muted many businesses it has muted um many educational opportunities and a lot of people aren't getting to school my good friend eric who listens to the show and who lives in switzerland was supposed to be in new york for the year but since uh jts couldn't have real classes so therefore he's actually not not coming into new york uh for for the year and and so a lot of people are muted but you as an educator and my other friends many of them who are educators that's that's just who i roll with um are telling me that there is a bumper crop uh of students coming into israel even though there are many corona restrictions they are coming in they are being asked to um to quarantine shelter in place social distance i'm just using a lot of buzzwords um when they come into israel for i think right now it's still two weeks uh and the schools instead of saying this is too complex and with all the questions about how many students you can have in a classroom and and and all the the challenges of also assuming and then having all the students that are not there uh participate all the technical challenges all the legal challenges all the health challenges uh the yishi vote and the schools and the colleges have all opened up their doors and are just super excited and the students are coming in right now um from my good friend liad he told me that in both the institutions that he teaches that which is ashraenu a ushiva uh and aardvark program there's a huge amount of students coming in and for yourself at parties you told me also you're having more this year than last year which is which is amazing now it's fantastic i mean from the institutional perspective there's two things going on one is pragmatic and the other one i would say is mission oriented i mean pragmatically speaking an educational institution that closed its door for one year is unlikely to open it again that's just the nature of the business the margins are too tight you so your your crowd that you're serving is too mobile it rarely happens an educational institution would shut its doors and reopen um but that aside there's also the mission and something that i've been really trying to push with my colleagues and faculty meetings with that and crazy amount of pre-meetings and planning and people are really working overtime is that it's also an opportunity to show the value of nephesh from torah of a real sense of sacrifice a self-sacrifice for the value of learning torah meaning it's a true huge luxury and and i know many people have really enjoyed whether it was their gap year between high school and college or whether part days we serve a post-college world a lot of people really enjoy that year of learning but really the question is do we value it do we understand its power its potential and its necessity and the answer seems to be yes right now because a lot of people when faced with financial difficulties or their plans have collapsed they don't know what to do they they're seizing the opportunity to learn and i think it's a good sign from so i think it's a beautiful sign and i'm very proud of the state of israel and again here is where the ultra orthodox show their great value politically speaking uh it's the ultra ultra orthodox parties that just they are uncompromising about certain things and i mean uncompromising they will not go that comes with the territory of being ultra-orthodox they have to be things you're not compromising about or you're not right but but so so just to explain what happened basically the ultra-orthodox parties just put your foot down on this thing and said we've got to open the skies for these students we've got to figure out a way and basically push it through legally sometimes i think to myself that that countries america and other countries since they don't have an ultra-orthodox voting bloc uh they're really missing something we have a and they call themselves they are protectors uh of the threshold right and and and they just stand on guard that's the way they see themselves and tolerance is like number one and you will this country will be bent toward making sure that these uh what is that was there did i hear a number of 12 000 students coming in for there i think i heard that number and and i want to say that that for every one of these students it's a totally life-altering year it's a completely life-altering year had their trajectory sent them because of coronavirus to another year of college or another year of i don't know partying in um aruba remember more than half of those are in the ultra orthodox world they weren't going to college a party but they were going to miss out on the level of learning which is the level of learning in israel first thing there's a half that you're talking about that's let's say 6 000 students that's a lot it's a lot of human beings it's a lot of souls and and even the ultra orthodox we're talking about a connection to eretz israel and to the torah verity israel so i really believe that this is a huge um uh a huge thing that you and your institution parties and all the other institutions are doing in the state of israel i'm very how should i say i'm very proud you know what i mean i i'm very proud to to to see that that you know it's like reminds me la havdale of the uh you know yom kippur war when when when people like my mother saw the air train uh coming from with weapons for israel's defense coming in and was playing after plane after plane after plane uh coming in and and they saw it they literally saw that that you know and here we have uh uh an air train uh of young people who are going to be connected to israel and for and change their life forever listen a rough mike rev mike foyer we're we're on the show fleischer show uh people are are watching us all over the world i do wanna shalom everybody that's right i do wanna ask that you leave a comment uh here uh on whatever whatever method that you're watching leave a comment i get to see them i'll read them out loud for example penny right here uh shanker says good morning from nyc nice to see you both so it's it's really really a pleasure when you guys comment especially from all over the world or anywhere it doesn't matter even from not all over the world even from like extraterrestrial commenting aliens right that's right uh very good uh we have a torah portion um and here on the show every week we we try to cover the jewish torah portion of the week remember that we read the the torah sequentially from the bet of bereshit from the first letter of the b of bereshit all the way to the lama the l of israel at the very last letter of the five books of moses we read it sequentially right now we're actually in the book of deuteronomy what's that it's heading right back around again right back around again that's right it keeps going and going so right now we're actually uh towards the end of the five books of moses we're in the book of deuteronomy the book of devarim and we have i don't know why but it happens to be just one of my favorite torah portions and definitely one of my favorite torah portions in in in the book i love it but you've got to get a better line man people are going to start to sort of lose the oomph when every week you say this is one of my favorites that's that's a hasidic thing you know you ever read the kasich bookstore like this holiday is it the most important holiday this is the house but i think they mean it you know and i know that i mean it this this is this is still um the majority of this except for a tiny little bit is still a collection of laws we're in the uh legal codec code echo codex i always forget codex yeah and now cause kodak is an audio thing we're in the legal codex uh of the of the book of varim that's when moses is kind of retelling us in this case a lot of interesting laws but there's a lot of the largest number of myths of any person in the torah right okay so we have the largest number of commandments mitzvot and also a lot of like new ones or ones that are told in a different very different way and so very interesting things uh let's go let's let's just touch right at the beginning chapter 21 verse 22 if a person the ki ebish if a person does a kind of sin that he deserves the death penalty vahumat and indeed he's uh uh killed executed corporal punishment the talito tolerates and he's hanged on a tree hung on the tree no people are pictures are hung people are hanged hanged on a tree the hanging here by the way does not mean like this kind of hanging it means after you kill him you actually post him yeah he hang his body up he's the original posting yes that's right lo talini vlatola etz you can't let that body stay overnight on the tree quick you have to bury him by omaha in that very day why right it is a curse of god to be hang hanged tough one to translate okay i mean there's a couple ways i mean rashi um the rashi kind of goes with your reading uncles goes with a completely different reasoning right it's it's because you were found guilty before god that you have been hung so it's it's a bit of a mystery and the mission even goes further with it but it's a powerful phrase yeah um i think that's those are those are good interpretations my simple read is it is it's got to be hanged but in any case uh a lot of time so yes to death penalty yes this person deserved to die but no due to um i mean and the person's dead like what's the biggie you know what i mean so let him hang another day uh this this by the way reminds us of the great story of esther who when the ten sons of of heyman were killed she says after they were killed hang him so that they'd be seen as hanged so they'd be seen as hang they are not they're not killed by by hanging they're after they're killed they're hung up so that everybody could see what the deal is of course if if you don't know about this look into the codes which bring a relationship the torah codes which bring a relationship between the 10 hanged sons of haman to the ten hanged men at nirenberg look into it it's an amazing story right are you into that or not sure great answer okay um in any case tell me tell me a little bit of mike why why you think that there's this um like like why what's the big deal maybe he did a really bad thing everybody should see it hang him for another day like what what is it telling us about the human body or the connection to god yeah i mean i i really am deeply influenced by rashi's reading when he says that um he is a mashal i mean he speaks about the fact that that um no right that god is created in the uh sorry man is created in the in the image and likeness of god so therefore there's he gives a masha like a metaphor that you imagine that two twin brothers one grows up to be the king and the other one becomes a bandit when the bandit is caught and hung everyone's gonna walk by and say look there's the king hanging on the tree and so humanity has the same capacity to either sanctify or desecrate god's name so while it might be necessary to show that there are consequences for our actions and that's how i understand the mitzvot lina that you don't just execute this person but you put them out there as people can see at the same time you want to minimize and move that away because it's really a failure it's a failure on the part of humanity and and of the divine capacity within us that we commit crimes and that we're forced to punish them and so therefore the in order to preserve the divine we make this as brief as possible so you know it's like it's like yes there is but no there isn't like know the limit of things it's like yes that has to be done and yes he's got to go up but like there's a limit there's a limit of things there's there's um they say it in hebrew to youth uh like proper measure proportionality proportionality proportionality all right here's one that i think that most people who would do a show like we do not that so many people do a show like we do uh nobody does it like we do man that's right that's right um um hold on i lost it where is it oh yeah long ago there it is you know this this is a personal pet peeve a personal like thing of mine which is lost objects lost objects i i hate losing things and and and i hate losing things oftentimes because it sets off like a mental thing like if i had if you had to say that i had like one um phobia or or thingamabob that sets me a little loopy it's like losing things and and the reason that that happens is because my brain against my own wishes says to me oh if you lost this stupid pencil what else was with it something else and you need that thing maybe and it sets me it sets me going uh i've actually i've actually over the years uh uh very much bleanara i've been able to to uh work through that yeah and i don't know what the root cause of that is but whatever it's one of these things like we have we have things but it's not interesting right exactly and the torah tells us though is that um is is that if if somebody's donkey is lost got to bring it into you and you find it you got to bring it into your house until your brother asks for it and you return it to him and then you should do for his donkey and for his dress and for any of the things that your your brother lost garment and garment yeah thank you uh i'm just open-minded like that uh exactly because the acer of men wearing women's clothing is in this departure too is that that's right thank you thank you that's right here it's actually close by it's a good point yeah it's coming it's going right up that's right uh and just just the point of of of returning stuff to people i could have thought i could have theorized rov mike i could have theorized look you forgot it you lost it you know what i mean finders keepers losers weepers i just made that up intensive law all that right all that stuff and you could just say no you know what i mean and and and this now now where does this go just so people understand jewish people like observing people like we take this very seriously like with my kids i take this very seriously they found something they have to post it they have to talk about it in school they have to bring it to the right place it's like a whole thing and immediately like you're just you open the car door you see some of these keys on the floor you just entered a mitzvah it's a little bit it's a little bit like a ruffa it's like you found the dead body it's like now i have to deal with this thing it's like you found an object sorry you got to stop you got to help somebody else recoup that object so this is a this is a i wouldn't call it a pet peeve but i'd say a personal passion of mine in torah i've had the great privilege of teaching this paragraph and this peric of um of uh gemara elements the gemara on this these two three zukim is one of the most classic chapters of gemara that gets taught you know basically it's stage one for many people tomorrow learning i'm sure there's a lot of people listening learn about dude but um the reason i'm so passionate about it is because it's twofold first of all the profundity in these two sookie what you can derive from here in terms of the idea of moral responsibility for for other people's possessions the idea of the impact of one's own behavior right right you know i mean i don't know how far into the reading we want to get here but um you can't turn away you can't look away you can't really die you have to return it to your your brother but there's a deep understanding of one of the great challenges we all face in morality is we want to hide most people if confronted and forced to take right action will do it i am i do believe that i don't think that that um the failures of the world are um are like real moral flaws in that sense that even when forced i won't do what's right the problem is that most of us would prefer to actually avoid the situation altogether right right and so the torah understands that when you see the donkey gone astray or the watch dropped on the sidewalk the problem isn't for most people i'm gonna steal that it's mine okay that happens too but it's less than the problem is most would say it's not my problem you ever read the the the um what are they called hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books do you remember the scp field no that's how they hide the the spaceship scp stands for somebody else's problem because when it's somebody else's problem nobody sees it right um the and that and that's exactly what the torah is coming to speak against they said no no there's no such thing right right right like that you can't do it you cannot hide that's one two it's a it's a passion line because i do believe and if you look at the way in which this mitzvah is articulated in the legal works this is an all-embracing social structure and if we treated this mitzvah as extensively as we do and you're correct it's taken quite seriously by individuals in in the observant world but but if we treated it the way we treat kashrut or shabbat as a foundation on which to shape society do you know that this mitzvot extends to the fact that if you see the potential for damage to someone else's property you have to hold it off for instance if you walk by a house and you see that a pipe has burst in the yard it's not your house now you're probably you don't know the guy let's not get into what the boundaries of the responsibility are you have an obligation you can't just walk by it's not just a lost object that somebody else might come along and take there's potential damage that's going to flow from that you've got to knock on that door if there's nobody there you you have to think about what the parameters how much do you have to sacrifice of your time and energy but you might have to fix that pipe or stop it somehow we have an overwhelming responsibility for the well-being of our brothers and and i feel like if we if we delved into the detailed obligations around that the way in which we delved into the detailed obligations of shabbat we would have a much better society and it's just from this like small biblical verse which is like that's it right whole chapters of mishnah and the gemara and the compendium it's it's fantastic it's also by the way for those who are looking it's an awesome framework for teaching people how you go from from statements to the torah all the way through action and how that is itself based on values and and behavior isn't so rich so rich i just got to do a five-day learning with a couple on this it was awesome that's awesome that's really really great uh it's a beautiful it's a beautiful mitzvah and it also it also makes you feel safe you know it also makes you feel safe right now you're like people looking out for you are you looking out for them and um oh by the way last week you and i we we talked about uh remember we talked about i said karma you said you didn't like karma i had something what i said was i feel like it's letting our tradition down when we reach for terms from other traditions because there's really nothing that we can't oh that's not a problem you could fix that language just say in in hebrew karma and then it's fine it's fine um let's let's keep going um oh oh you know well i was i was going to go down to a longer thing but but uh what what what i mean to say is that you help people find stuff get back their stuff so too that that sends a protective energy into this into the ether which is like you know you either create the real social fabric right it creates a social fabric absolutely but i i really do believe that like like like don't do under unto others what you wouldn't want to be done to you and do unto others what you want to be done to you and it really comes around in a real way um i do want to tell you that um i recently learned that i was committing a sin against people and yeah i was i was committing a a sin up against people it and because we're in the month of ello the month of repentance i had to repent i feel really good about it what's that you're not going to confess right now are you feeling yeah i'm going to make a small confession here was my sin i was not responding quickly to people's whatsapps and emails i i and this goes along with sometimes i'm late and i don't know like and like there's too many things happening and people send me a you know a ping and i'm just like i can't answer this because i can't deal with it and i just didn't answer people and this one guy i reached out to him and he wouldn't answer me and i'm like dude are you not answering me and he didn't answer me and i'm like dude are you like i'm the last person you should in hebrew listen in yeah you should like block filter out so he's like he write back to me he's like why should i filter you out why should i not filter you out because you filter me out you don't answer me when i ask you things and i'm like it turned out that i thought that he was that he was somewhat right and i noticed that i like have this tendency to not return other people's requests quickly and even if i say i can't do it but at least i want to respond quickly saying i can't do it and all day today i've been just like shooting out things where i a lot of times i would procrastinate and responding i think this is a little bit also like lost objects somebody's sending something out there by mistake or by not mistake like how do you take it do you take the other person's time their energy their feelings you know to heart and just imagine yourself without those keys losing those keys um and and how you want everybody around you to help you uh you got to be that kind of person as well okay i will change i will change i will do truva let's talk a little bit about um about cross-dressing um cross-dressing is uh is not cool in the torah um there's a there's a a verse that that that speaks of that clearly it says that you're not uh a man's clothing should not be on a woman or a man's object should not be in a woman and um and um which is interesting that that that is first right you would you would actually think that would be more uh the other way which is i think maybe more prevalent but i really don't know the numbers uh yeah i wouldn't have thought i don't know yeah it says lawyer click a man's articles should not be on a woman a man should not dress crossdress with a woman's artifacts however garmin's key to avatar this is a abomination but that word is a bad word maybe of a better word uh of god anybody who does these things as i recall rashi here talks um really about um not that cross-dressing per se right is is a problem but rather if it leads or tries to lead towards illicit contact yeah you might say look what there's an argument amongst the medieval authorities about what the intent of the torah here is and um you know it's like for rashi for instance on purim if people decide to dress up as queen esther when they're when they're men etc that that that's not a violation of at least the torah level prohibition right great the sage has stepped in in many places to uh reinforce these things but other we shown him disagree and say it's simply it uh definitional um this has had i mean aside from the modern discourse around sexual identity and freedom of expression etc which it's important to remember is both are very modern meaning the idea that one's identity is centered on their sexuality and the torah is non-existent um and the idea that freedom of expression is a supreme value is also i wouldn't say completely non-existent in the world toro but it's it's not so high up there it's not such a a cherished value per se um but but um the what's interesting to me actually is the piece that you asked about which is you know it's a very powerful term when it gets translated as abomination it gets thrown around a lot especially by our christian brothers and sisters through that language because there's much more of a um a culture war around this issue in america um and so it sort of ties into sort of the whole big picture so to be able to call something an abomination it's very dramatic whereas you know the gemara and of course also um you know sexual acts between men is labeled such in in vaikara um the khmer has a very interesting insight is it it plays with the word and it says it reads right is it something that's going to cause you to go astray and and i think it's important to recognize and if you look in the context of lamar it's very strong i think what's happening is you literally have one of the sages dancing seductively in front of the other one to evoke his answer um like the the the optics around it i think are pretty clear what's going on what they're saying is basically the idea of men being attracted to men sexually or in this case people dressing as as the opposite gender in order to gain entry into spaces which would otherwise be denied to them is not surprising at all in the mind of the stages nor is it abomination in the sense of unnatural like all the english accommodations what is it it pulls someone away from the essential the essential sort of uh path of sexuality and torah which is oriented toward family and stability and and and and that's what if you look in the in the car if you want the the citation i have it off the top of my head at the obama somewhere i can look it up in my notes but they but that's really what what the torah is saying is that basically that's what the gemara saying is it basically is a recognition that this potential is there and human beings as people say today sexuality is on a continuum that being what it is the torah has a definite stance on what what right sexuality within the family and social context are and what purpose it serves it's not an end unto itself and that's really the big difference which is important to remember when you're trying to map modern sexuality onto the torah or vice verse is that the torah has an overarching sense of social responsibility with which sexuality is bound up it is not primarily a question of individual freedom of expression and an identity and there's there's a the the theme that that that we talked about a lot on the show is procreation yeah and union and procreation building within marriage because because um in many ways in the taurus mind one of the things that distinguishes us from the animals is the fact that our physical relationships are a ultimate expression and an extension of the depth of committed psychological emotional and logistical relationship which exists within marriage well marriage produces children and hopefully hopefully and and for all those who need blessings we send you our blessings yeah um um the the very next verse talks about a way that you can lengthen your days and that is the the famous uh commandment of chewing away the mother bird which is technically called chewing away the mother bird there's just there's just no other way to say it that's the hebrew version but in english chewing away the mother bird okay and uh and it doesn't have like a technical term like leverage marriage no no no it worked away the mother okay so so um so if if a um if a bird what's it called a bird nest is found on your path or in a tree or on the ground and you see either chicklets chicks or chicks not chocolates or or eggs square gum things right and the mom of the of the of the chicks or the eggs is on the uh on these on her children right on post you shall not take the chil the mother with the children rather you should send her away uh send her away shoe her away and the children take to yourself so that it will be good for you and that you will have length of days so it's a very famous misfit i just want to say that people go out of their way in their lifetime to try to fulfill the physical act of this mitzvah even if they don't need it they just try to do this one time their life so that they could chew away the mother bird my mom god bless her uh said to me that this is actually a mitzvah of environmentalism she said to me what it means is you cannot destroy the you can take the the yield but you can't destroy the mother that has other generations that she can produce and so therefore you cannot stop the whole thing at once you cannot be a glutton and take also the chicks and the eggs and also the mom and take the whole thing other people say that it's really about making sure that the mother uh doesn't uh see the children being taken away it's a more humane uh concept right mutually exclusive right right they're not mutually exclusive that's right uh and for me uh i have a personal relationship with this verse i've talked about it with you in the past and that when i was doing a lot of aliyah work trying to get used to thinking about moving to the land of israel in new york city i saw that parents were one of the biggest blocks to jews making aliyah and i came to the conclusion that this verse really means that sometimes you have to distance the parents away from the children and take the children to yourself to the land of israel and i kept that that that that realization secret to myself until until i found a until i found a balaturim that literally says that that's what this verse means um when you're fundraising yes no but what it really means is that sometimes sometimes and i've come to broaden that definition to understand that sometimes there are things that block us sometimes there are let's call parental things in our heads fears shall we say fears of of of taking that leap taking that next step and sometimes we have to shoo away our own inside mother bird that is like limiting us from going out there and and taking that next step listen this is a very deep issue and it goes to the heart of um what both the conservative and the progressive world have to offer to cultural growth which is on one hand you don't want to destroy the mother right meaning the values would serve as a foundation for society for family for character fill in the blank those are values which are precious and need to be protected and handed on the same time if they are unquestioned if they have become um sacred to the point in which even if they lose their meaning they still maintain their power well then you can't move forward there's no future and so there's a constant dynamic in in terms of a willingness to hold dear that which is sacred and yet also to challenge accepted truths in order to be able to move forward in the world it's a it's a very delicate balance a very delicate balance and and um you know to me the the piece about sustainability like you're giving credit to your mom right this is the torah's equivalent of that statement which uh has been sourced so many people actually did some research try to figure out who actually said it might have been wendell berry but that classic state of environmentalism with that the world we don't we don't inherit the environment from our parents we borrow it from our grandchildren it's very important to remember that what we do now in the world is not just the privilege we've gotten from the past but it's the responsibility we have to the future and so therefore i think that that's this is the torah's way of teaching us that and that's why are you like a length of days upon the land is the promised blessing right there now this was uh this was famously challenged are you there are you there by mike we have you may have you a little bit on on delay maybe i'm on delay one of us you're on delay you're on uh that's okay how do you know maybe you're on delay okay uh these these are full-sized questions uh uh by the way by the way i just want to tell you just parenthetically just between me and you uh i just heard a great show about a great card what right i just i really didn't think so yeah and i really didn't know yeah it it was it was very eye-opening the the and descartes or cartesian thinking and all that that was it was a very eye opening yes because i'm eye-opening he he relates to our own journey into into early modernity well i was i again we're still in the in the realm of parentheses here i was uh i was like once a birthday card i was like i was like let me see how far from descartes is to spinoza and it was like he's like right afterwards and i'm like it was like it was like an aha moment right but he was very influenced it was very important as a philosopher with his cartesian analysis and bringing a sort of a euclidean approach to cartesian thought which really laid the foundations for his own principles and and and the ethics which is where he he speaks out his thought but well that we're probably going to tell you a quick descarte joke and then we'll move on right descartes walks through the bar and hard to send part time says can i get your drink and the card says i think not and disappears all right moving on that is a funny joke that's a funny joke for the academy for the uh for the evening okay um here's another one uh about about like we talked about with the with the the the lost object um if you're going to build a roof that's like a that's like a flat roof you got to put a fence on it and here in the middle east we have a lot of flat roof buildings you must put a fence on it by the way my arab brothers and sisters oftentimes do not put fences around the roofs and from time to time there are accidents um and one of the people that worked at paradise died by falling off this roof and a young young arab man just terrible and the torah says why because the faller shall fall from it follow the faller or the follower may fall for it from it but the faller can't fall from it and famously it says that the rashi says um you know that that there is sometimes you have a judgment against you you don't want you don't want him up this person that has a judgment against them to go on your roof from your roof because you didn't put on the the fence like sometimes that how should we say this right um that god brings about merit in the world at the hands of the meritorious and he brings about judgment in the world at the hands of those who deserve judgment meaning the decisions that we make of a channel in the world they open up a channel in the world for god's action god's action is going to come in the world no matter what we don't get to choose that but do you want to be the vehicle blessing or you want to be a vehicle judgment it's very simple you you do mitzvot you're going to be a vehicle a blessing you don't know the mitzvot even if you're not your punishment you'll just be a vehicle even of other people's punishment which is certainly nothing right that anybody want right i think also a related term to that in a more secular kind of way is negligence is negligence like you know you cannot if you could build a roof there is something about high places that somebody will climb up to and has the chance of falling off of it that is just that is that is uh it's me it's mr bear it's it's a it's logical it's plausible that somebody's gonna fall off of it so therefore don't do things that will lead to plausible eventuality that you don't want okay don't drive and and what's that go ahead well it's part of a larger discourse is it's important to remember that the torah of course focuses on obligations and not on rights which is finds particularly interesting expressions in property law in america we think about property rights once i own something you know like one of my rights in regard to it um but the torah is only interested in property obligations okay eventually we have to tease out the rights because that's a logical conclusion in the same way american law talks about obligations not you know but the but what you say is you own a house that creates obligations and and if you don't fulfill your obligations you're not just violating some divine command you're being negligent because what it means to own property is you have an obligation in the world you got an ox tether it dude if you know it's a goring ox keep it out of my backyard you know right but i wanted to add a more you're bringing it to the kind of deeper and more higher level of obligation i wanted to to make it even a lower level which is which is concern yourself with probabilities like look at eventualities like open your eyes this is going to lead to you don't want that you don't you don't want to be like my wife says to me my god bless my wife you know she's got a hunger you know saying her which is like pre-guilt and she says to me like i could not live god forbid with with running over somebody in the car i need to say like and and that's a beautiful thing which is a kind of you know my wife and i we we have a she does okay she does fear and i do it i do love but that hungarian type of sense of like i would never be able to live with myself with the guilt of doing some kind of thing therefore i will not text and drive i will not text and drive because it won't it very well has the plausibility not probability but plausibility of leading to an eventuality i don't want open your eyes see where it's going to lead to okay that's right now now there's a few things in life that are that are uh that that that are spiritualities that you can never escape famously death death and taxes uh but there's another one which is going to the bathroom going to the bathroom is a as an eventuality and you you want it to be an eventuality because you're not going to the bathroom you're not well or you're in dialysis and we wish you a fush lima of right and the mana did not come out because it was perfectly it was a super food party it was alarming as you can imagine they were alarmed it was alarming that's right it was like it was like years of constipation but really it was perfect health um but in any case god says to you god says to us if you are a fighting force and if that anybody's ever been in a fighting force in an army it it's not the most hygienic or beautiful thing in the world it's men sweaty and smelly and etc but the torah says hey you cannot go to the bathroom and we're speaking here number two um we're talking about uh you know uh experimenting you cannot delay as we say you cannot do that within the camp rather you have to have a place that specifies place outside the camp moreover moreover you gotta have a on your tool belt you gotta have a uh a shovel and when you go to the bathroom you have to dig and uh excrete it there and then cover it up what you went to the bathroom and this this is i cannot tell you how seriously i've taken this commandment in my life not just for myself personally but for others and when i was in the uh idf reserves so i was a cheap driver and one of the things they're allowed to get as a jeep driver is a shovel because that sometimes a jeep jeep like uh like like a shot like a like a shovel but the one that's like the shovel is not flat rather on a 90 degree angle is that a different for that in any case oh actually technically oh okay so so then i wanted to know that's good so i would have to i would re i would stand on the line for an hour sometimes just to request this thing uh to get this this proper piece of equipment it was good for the car but i i had my secret interest in it which was so that i could help my my secret agenda was to cover up the poop uh and so that i could loan it out to my friends and i would also many of them were non-observant israelis and they would say to me i would say to them this is a commandment in the torah here's some big webs and here's the ho here's the shovel they'd be and i'm like this is commandment the torah they'd be like no it's not and i would be like yes it is and i show them and they'd be like that is amazing um and and in the mitzvah is and if you've if and and you know remember mike you've extensively uh had had nature training and and been out and wild a lot when you got to the wild and you meet somebody else's poop that has not been covered up it's the worst it is it is inhumane it's inhuman and it's just so destructive there's flies the whole thing and instead if you dig and you do things right then then it's like everything goes back to nature there's something beautiful about it there's something correct about it let's put it that way you know things are going in the right place into the earth they're becoming nutrients and and what god is telling you that and this finishes off with your army camp has to be holy very famously your your camp has to be holy and that's because in judaism excrement is not holy there is no mezuzah on our bathrooms right but when we come out of the bathroom we make a blessing on having gone to the bathroom and exactly having things going well oh yeah that's right we're so thankful for it and i've taught this to the kids as well i mean i'm talking about from the little stage from from from my you know four or five-year-old but you know really taught him to dig do it right cover it up and and my god what what uh like it's environmental it's human it's correct it feels right etc it's just like you are now you know you are now with creation in a proper way but if you didn't do it it's like you didn't understand your role in creation yeah i mean without over dramatizing what is a very earthy uh command i think that you put your finger on it is that is that one of the deep elements of wisdom in the torah is how physical action can either be an integration and a rightness with creation or it can be um a disruption and a deviation and really a conflict with creation and it would be very easy for us to dismiss the physical as our sort of lower animal side here we see actually in many ways it's the key for right living is this something that you taught when you were when you were out there and uh i've spent much time teaching young men and women how to go to the bathroom in the woods and uh without getting into the details in various environments that involves different things and i was trained in what's called a zero impact ethic which meant that for most of the trips we did we didn't even carry toilet paper or or if you did you pack it out so i don't really i mean you tell us right now yeah i don't like i'm like all right um later okay we have a few more things to cover um [Music] divorce it's a mitzvah it's a commandment to divorce explain that to me what does that mean i mean on some level it's the idea that um though we believe in sort of to share like a certain element of destiny and divine intent in people coming together in marriage we also believe that um you get to put it two ways we also believe that life is more complicated than that and that there are other factors and that therefore if a man and a woman if it doesn't work to be together it's just as much emits but to separate as it would have been to be together the other way to look at it is uh it's like my dear friend dave mason dear friend and co-author i should say dave mason um don't let a bad decision lead to a miserable life right so you know we live in a world in which the whole quitters never prosper ethic comes very strongly through certain channels but the reality is the flip side is that sometimes quitting can be the best thing you do and in case it's not quitting so much it is this is making a conscious decision that the situation which is you your decisions have led to is not one you want to be in and and and so therefore having that courage to step away is a mitzvah and and you know it's not in you know sort of culturally and even uh halal traditional jewish society is very um does everything it can let's put it that way it does everything it can to avoid divorce and to and to to help couples work through whatever it is that's driving them apart but at the same time like you said from the beginning there are situations in which it's not just the right thing to do but it's a mitzvah it's something you must do right i think you said something very deep right now which is you could also like you talked about like the never fail type of lifestyle or never make mistakes i think what the taurus telling you is i'm giving you the freedom to be a human being and to make mistakes and if you had to make if it did happen to you and it's very painful we're still going to do this the right way we're still going to let you reverse out of this thing the right way and we're gonna protect the woman through the tuba and we're gonna we're gonna do a lot of stuff here and we're gonna we're gonna deal with damage we're gonna deal with the damage gonna deal with a problem but we're gonna give you a sense that life is not destroyed just because it went down a wrong path or a path that didn't work out fully and that that's very big you know you know people that commit suicide god forbid a lot of times the main thing that drives them is a sense that it was game over i can't fix this thing they're stuck yeah there's i i can't it's already ruined you know what i mean i might as well just hit restart or re-flush it out it's not i can't be fixed and that's that's a horrific horrific horrific feeling the torah here shows you okay man you went you went or or woman you went down a bad path it's all right it didn't work out yeah he doesn't have to you went down a bad death sometimes listen i do enough couples work to know that sometimes people just change right life is long you get married for certain reasons at a certain stage of life and people change people grow situations change and it is not always the right thing to just tough it out sometimes it is you know and so that's a very delicate question but the tour recognizes like you said that um that there is a place for for breaking what you've built a very good friend of mine and of yours was divorced twice and then got remarried a third time and i'll never forget the speech that he gave uh at his uh lachaime of the of towards the third wedding he said you know what um i'm so glad that that i am that i am only marrying this girl as my third try because i'm so going to be so much of a better husband so much more sensitive i've made all the mistakes but this one's for keeps and i've i've learned uh that that that the mistake i've learned through this process and now you know this wedding is is the right one and so he found meaning in a victor uh what was his name victor um victor frankl kind of way which is like he's found meaning through the tragedy of two divorces and listen this is a profound sod of kabbalah the profound uh secret of the mystic torah which is called zebu cheney right this idea that um and it's really rooted in the whole idea that the first covenant with god over the tablets at sinai was broken and rebuilt right there there is this idea of zebra cheney of the second union right that even though of course you know the the the biblical ideal of the of the wife of one's youth and the innocence etc but there's a there's another face there which is that once like you said once you've actually become who you are the entering into the second stage of relationship or the second you know you know relationship altogether is a much more profound and deeper um union and it's important to know that that doesn't have to necessitate a god forbid a divorce or a death etc and it's a very important thing for people who've been married for a while to think about is there's a stage of marriage at which you have to recommit it's not enough to simply the invested instruction we got the kids and of course we're not going to get divorced we're married that's not enough it carries some people through but there's there's an opportunity let's put it this way it may be enough there's an opportunity for zebra cheney for stepping back and saying you know what i'm fully choosing as if i'm asking you to marry me today that as who i am now which is certainly not who i was when i got married in this who you are advice you know the same thing that we are going to be married once again and there's a real power in doing that absolutely absolutely and and and that's also true in the service of god sometimes you have to re you have to redo your bonds and that's what ll is really all about which is like re yes renewing your vows yeah recommitting for sure for sure okay let's just go to a prosaic one and then and then we'll finish off with uh let's go let's go to lotaxon four words do not uh muzzle and do not muslin ox as as he you know stomps out the green right don't muzzle an ox uh and and this has become this has become a uh like a like a uh like a statement here in israel like a phrase that is used oftentimes even by secular people which is like look you know there's certain things that don't don't wait just don't worry don't don't over limit me don't don't over limit something you know what i mean it's like it's like um you know if if you're sitting down to dinner and then somebody makes too long of verdvarator before the food somebody will say dude with the show come on you know you gotta let the other let the people eat you know it's a natural thing to sit in front of food while you yap right it's it's not natural and and and the the the um the meaning of that i guess is that there are natural things and that we have to be not too we have to like yes we jews as observant jews have so many strictures and limitations upon us but at the same time the torah says to us all the things that are not allowed there's a taste of them in what is allowed um and these things are for your benefit they're not there to like constantly whip you and keep you in shape it's actually good for you uh and i know what i'm talking about says god uh but this statement says like don't be too what's the word i'm looking for too strict don't be too strict with the animal the animal is an animal it wants to eat let it let it eat yes keep it from going to somebody else's uh field and yes don't plow together with a different animal and any other laws but at the same time don't don't totally muzzle it because that's unnatural and it's just gonna buck it's just gonna buck the work and and i would add to that there's always a danger as human beings that we treat animals or or or certainly also other people as it means to an ends right like here this ox works for me the goal here is threshing the wheat right the goal here is not feeding my ox what the tour is telling you is yes and remember that the socks is an independent creature it's part of a system eating and reproducing of its own that has nothing to do with you don't keep yourself into thinking that you can reduce this animal to a complete object of your interest because if you do it that's stepping out of that natural living that you're speaking about and leads to far-reaching negative consequences and i think that that's one of the reasons like you're putting out it's become a better expression in israeli societies at a certain point it's like like give your examples like here we all sit down to eat and there's a wonderful meal in front of us and some guys just going on and on and on about his var torah he's completely divorced himself from our experience we are simply an audience for his thoughts as opposed to human beings who are sitting in front of food or hungry or distracted etc you see how the the usage of it is is it works in both ways rev mike this leads me to tell you that we have a new arrival in our house uh my my son eleazar and my daughter leia both uh they brought in a kitty from the outside and the kitty is now part of our part of our lives uh and uh you know just like you said like most of it serves us great some of it we have to serve it instead of it serving us it's like okay you gotta train it and feed it and it costs money and transport it when we go somewhere and think about where it's gonna be and the whole the whole shebang uh i think it's been been a blessing for my for my kids uh and it's like an add-on to the family but it's i agree with you 100 it's and what you said which is like it's not just there to serve us it's now kind of like a member of the family and we have to actually consider it existence yeah right right it has it really it really really does uh and this morning i woke up early today was i was writing an article and kitty which is what i call her kitty with the israeli accent uh came in and joined us all right let's finish up our torah portion we are in the book of deuteronomy yeah let's just finish up right now with uh one last one which is a big one which is uh the that bizarro anti-jewish energy in this world the energy of doubt the energy of cooling off faith uh which is none other than amalekite respect right like to me i'm like respect these guys respect them respect what they're about the reality of their existence yeah and the reality of their power yeah yeah yeah i think it's very important and uh and it says remember what amalek did to you on the way when you left egypt and he happened to you on the way the happen is is the word which is happened to you but it could also mean it cooled you off that's the famous explanation that uh korka which is which is it like it um cooled off your faith called you off or cooled off other the fear of others because they saw that you could be attacked he hit you in the in the back parts all the weak ones that you had the stragglers um and and that there's something about amalek which attacks the weak people in society the ones that aren't full of faith they will be hit with more on faith um and and there's an element of of cooling off of faithlessness uh and our rabbis also make a gematria a new a numerical um relationship between the word amalek equivalency between the word amulek and the word safik which is doubt which is doubt i would i would today translated instead of doubt uh today's amulek is cynicism yeah cynicism which is which is like you know it's a kind of cynical version of doubt it's like i don't know i don't know if i can say it's well it's more sophisticated but i would actually i would i would say do you know it's actually a cheaper way to get out of it because saying i don't believe that there's a god that's like that's that's an intense statement but if you don't want to go there you just be like i don't know right so that way you don't you don't have to personally repudiate it and think about it philosophically just make it into the joke you you cynicalize it and you find cynicism by the way i want to tell you something here is for i know you're you were finishing up so in israel the last two weeks every successive week there has been a giant humongous news scandal two weeks ago it was the um um children's uh god what's it called a a pre a kindergarten and the kindergarten teacher was smacking it and the helpers were smacking on his kids they caught on video tape and for israel that's like that's like no we cannot have a kindergarten smacking the kids but it was like i met people it was like a deep soul searching now there is a case of potential rape horrific 16 year old girl by a lot by a lot of men and this is all alleged and all both of these cases were alleged but the bottom line is that um you know on the one hand these are both horrific cases on the other hand sometimes i think to myself that the news media uh puts it out there to do one thing which is to make us doubt that this is a good nation and a good time in a good land and we have a good god with good people and that there's wonderful values and wonderful things happening and i said to this one guy i said to him is there a news story about my a four-year-old who went to gone to kindergarten and blossomed in those last two years now there's no news story about that there's a new story about you know the drop of poison in the bucket of water uh and indeed a drop of poison can ruin a bucket of water uh but at the same time you know a piece of meat that's 160th in a milk pot you know will not totally ruin it like sometimes you got to know how to fish it out or how to how to not let it dr and i'm saying that the energy of amalek is the one that sows doubt and disbelief and cynicism yeah i mean the only thing i would add is that it's always worthy to note what comes before the appearance of amelie in general you know in the narrative we're familiar with hayes mind writes god in our midst or not that's the doubt element and here there's two things which kind of come full circle with what we were speaking about before which is the the the midst of the comes before is that just weights and measures and just weights and measures comes with a very noteworthy um reward here's another case where long days on land just run your society correctly be have a standard which is fair and inflexible for everyone and last but not least right that is this abomination and this is sometimes missed by people who who get on the abomination high horse and talk about sexual issues etc they miss it it's an abomination to cheat people folks it's an abomination to ruin the standards of measure in your society right because because that will lead you astray to thinking that really it's okay to take advantage of people really justice is not an important value etcetera etcetera that's what brings amalek the opening to amalek is when we lose faith in our obligation to justice right in this context that's we have an obligation to maintain a standard of justice as soon as we begin to doubt that such standards possible i'm late comes right in rev mike foyer people can find more of your podcasts lectures and classes and also your spiritual guidance that can be one on one facebook.comrovmike foyer and jewishstory.co is your website which has all of your stuff there including your other show on the land of israel network called jewish story a fabulous podcast and i really recommend everybody check out jewish story dot co i want to thank you so much for joining me for parashat when you go out to war in the book of deuteronomy chapters chapter 21 through 25 and the book of vari and i want to thank you so much for all your great teaching and please welcome in all of our names your new students that are coming to partis this year and all the students that are starting to come in even through the corona blockade they're coming in to learn in the land of israel well it's great to see you it's wonderful to be here thanks for having me all right rev mike foyer thank you so much for being with me and thank you folks for being with us here on the show fleischer show and on the land of israel network i want to thank ben breski and moshe herman and tabitha for getting the land of israel show out to the world on our podcast and i do want to ask you to join us in so many ways that you can join us including ishaifleischer.com and we're soon going to be setting up an awesome new patreon site so help us keep broadcasting if you would see me in the street you may buy me a cup of coffee you may want to if you do then help us support the show by buying us a cup of coffee and helping my team and all the good folks and guests continue to keep the show widely dispersed and free so 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countries joining us every week sunday live at 6 00 p.m for those that can't make it live they get a direct recording sent to them we're growing together we're learning together we're celebrating together the gates are open for all who want to come and join and so this is a personal invitation to all the listeners out there if you want to join the land of israel fellowship just go to the land of israel.com fellowship and you can join us tomorrow as we prepare for the big days ahead all right folks you are listening to the shy fleischer show and i'm on the beach in ashkelon with one of the most incredible people you know him he's a serial spiritual entrepreneur the co-founder of the tuesday night live of the arugula farm of the land of israel network which i'm on which the show is on and now also the fellowship none other than jeremy compel rabbit jeremy compel robert welcome to the program i've renounced the title rabbi oh yeah that's it i'm done with that title why is that i just just there's rabbis and is there like rabbi dean steinsaults right he didn't put the name rabbi on his on his tomb so i'm going to have the title rabbi just jeremy has plenty for me at this point all right well we're on the beach together here and the sun is setting on on a beautiful ello uh afternoon evening and uh i've had the the great pleasure of becoming part of your circle uh throughout the years from our sheva to voice of israel now the land of israel network and we are practically neighbors in the gushition region but what i didn't know is that god also wanted us to hang out on the beach in beautiful oshkolon so you're quite busy most of the time and even now but what's it like to be on vacation a little bit i love a vacation i love vacation i was born to vacate that's what and they keep calling us occupiers and all we want to do is vacation i just want to vacate that's it i just i i love that israel is so diverse that one hour i'm on the beach and then one hour i'm skiing in the chermone and the next hour i'm in the ancient city of chevron and it's like just so remarkable that in such a tiny country there's so many opportunities to experience the beauty of nature and eretz estrella it's just awesome so you know that reminds me of something that's been happening in the last let's walk a little shall we i'm enjoying walking with you here something's been happening here in the land of israel recently two weeks in a row there's been these awful scandals that have rocked the country two weeks ago it was the uh kindergarten teacher who was beating the children on video this week it's the uh it's the uh alleged rape of a 16 year old by a lot of men and i i told malca that i think i told rabbi mike also that i sometimes think this is exactly the work of amalek the work of amalek is to send doubt cool off the excitement send us a signal that we're not a beautiful nation that we're not a good nation we're not a holy nation this is this is not the droids you're looking for this is not the great thing that has been prophesied and instead it's actually something mucky and simple and like anybody else and you're going to wake up from your dream and you're going to realize this is not something special this is not something so amazing like you described in all of your efforts it's rather nothing but but muckin like anybody else you're no different nothing here is different this time is no different and and that is to me the modern work of of amalek which is to sow cynicism in all of your work you do everything the opposite of trying to sow cynicism but rather so inspiration and to give people a sense that this is something special which is it was it something special or is it or is it the whole thing a fake i think you need to recognize that like all of us israel is a work in progress and that in fact that's like a part of the destiny that the skill talks about that the jewish people that return to the land of israel are going to have a heart of stone it's going to be an anti-god movement and secular zionism was a was a rebellion against the exile but it was also a rebellion against religion they wanted to end the jews and start the israelis and so we still have the ramifications of that in modern israeli society now but if you look at israel in the 1900s when my grandfather first came here and he was uh stationed in kibbutz de gana the first kibbutz in israel they were having pork barbecues on yom kippur just to give it to god and if you look at the state of israel today just about you know a hundred years later it's a nation of believers and so it's not perfect yet but it's a process and yahushua talks about the process that as we return only then the spiritual revolution will happen and that's also going to happen not all at once it's like a spirit that is like comes upon the people and he'll make it that will walk in his ways and follow his commandments and fulfill them and so it's just to recognize what stage we are in history what generation we live in and it's really the most awesome of all generations because we literally get to experience the transition not only from the exile of auschwitz to the freedom of the idf and the strength and power of our economy but also the freedom of returning it to be a jew in judea and what that means and listen i don't like the word orthodox jew to me that's like so no rabbi in orthodoxy i mean i just it's orthodox sounds like a shoe doctor i don't want to be the jew of shoe doctors i don't think rebbi akiva defined himself as an orthodox jew and that's like just an exile terminology and what's happening in israel now is the jewish people slowly are just going to find themselves with the torah find themselves with this land but we have like a foundation of secular secular secular godless society that we're still battling with and you know the the the the nazis the immodest realities um you know there's a price to pay for a society that is not modest and so we have to like figure out how to fix things and that's really a part of our process as well we're just a work in progress every individual is a work in progress and that's really what elol is about and also also on a national level we're a work in progress okay so you're taking it to the place of uh there are these phenomenas of these two events that i spoke of and it's a work in progress to fix it i'm taking it to a little bit of a different place which is the truth is is that it's overstated it's it's a war of perception to try to make it look like it's not a great time when it really is when we are living in great times well the problem with the media is that they got to find the sexy story they got to find the headlines they got to find the and bad news grabs you though a rape oh i want to read about that oh my god a child is being so like it's you know that's their job they need to get clicks on their websites they need to get traffic driven to their you know areas and ratings on their shows and so they're not thinking about creating a consciousness of godliness they're not creating a consciousness of like well-being and happiness they are just running for the ratings and so of course things will always be distorted it's like that's doesn't that if you're going to paint israel as the jewish people are these two headline stories then that's really a sad reality but that's why i think the essence of the land of israel network is about is like we don't talk about those things like there is so much more to talk about but the good news doesn't pull in the ratings it doesn't trigger our reptilian brain of fear it doesn't trigger like the things that you know just pull you in and the truth is i think the most exciting thing that the land of israel network has sort of dabbled in now and hopefully you're going to join the process in this evolving work of art as well is this land of israel fellowship i love what's happening something marvelous is happening and it's not capturing headlines and there's not like big news articles about it but it is a slow growing um it's like a move of god 31 countries are involved and it's like such a diverse eclectic group of people and imagine in this move now where you know churches are being vandalized people are going in there chopping off jesus's head not that i condone statues and anything like that but then they're going in swastika in our synagogues like if you analyze what's happening there there is an attack on god right now in the united states of america and what can we do jews christians catholics and everything in between we actually all believe in god we believe in the ten commandments we believe in a certain spirit and values that emanate from the bible and all of that all of our civilization as we know it that was been built on the foundations of the bible is under attack now and so imagine now a counter action to this that like believers from all over trying to figure out how to actually create a wave in the world of bringing the values and joy and real like light the light of the torah to the world that really is a part of the progress as well it's time that you start lighting up the world with the torah that's why we're here to light up the world with the torah and the torah is being lit up because the jewish people are back in the land of israel and people my metaphor is that when or i don't know if it's exactly a metaphor but when you're in other people's lands and you say hey look at my torah people are like but your god has rejected you you don't have a temple i'm not interested in your torah so learn about my lincoln and my madison because i'm it's my country in my land so learn from my wisdom but when we're back in the land then everybody sees god has done great things he's bringing the jewish people back home then they're like well what is your torah what is your torah and and so amazingly is that the more we in gather into one tiny corner the more the revolution of communication is taking root and so the more we're actually geographically isolated the more we're touching the world the fellowship uh the land of israel is a great example of that listen to this um prophecy in the book of isaiah chapter two and in micah chapter four it talks about nature for my audience you have to also say that in hebrew okay it talks about the streaming to jerusalem i just didn't realize the streaming was going to happen on soundcloud and facebook and zoom but they are streaming to eretz estrell now right and like what a beautiful idea that could be right and i remember when you and i were at a root chevron many years ago i came up with the term which is we used to have the airwaves now we have the net waves and and we're surfing this thing and you know connecting to the world uh speaking of surfing the sun is going down here i got to pray the minha prayer you have taught you told me you've taught your children to both shoot guns ride horses and surf so you think you're that you're done right done i'm done those are great things to teach our children along with torah and living in the land serving the army you know being servants of hashem also to shoot to ride horses and to surf which is really to connect uh with the greatness of this land how do people connect to the fellowship on the land of israel network um go to the individual dot com fellowship there's a whole page there about it you can subscribe there more information you can email jeremy at thelandovisreal.com get some information but it is really a beautiful thing and hopefully very soon each is going to plug in and we're going to like make a whole staff that is just broadcasting the torah to the world yes sir that's what the land of israel network's all about and i'm honored to be a part of it and uh the artist formerly known as rabbi jeremy kempel i want to wish you a beautiful day and uh i'm honored and glad to be enjoying this beautiful sunset with you on the beach in auschwitz so thanks thank you for having me for the meaning of life differs from man to man from day to day and from hour to hour says viktor frankl what matters therefore is not the meaning of life in general but rather the specific meaning of a person's life at a given moment well i've been blessed to live a life rich in meaning but right now at the beginning of a whole new season i'm simply wondering what it's all about as i'm rob mike floyer and this is the jewish story join rav mike foyer for the