Yom Hashoah Interview with Holocaust Survivor Dr. Moshe Katz Moderated by Rabbi Yaniv Meirov

Good evening all and thank you for tuning in. As we begin the recovery process from this pandemic, many in-person events are still canceled, and so we decided to bring this event to you to commemorate Yom HaShoah by hearing from a man who went through it all. Dr. Moshe Kats is the author of Nine out of 10. And he has kept the promise that he made to his family, friends, and fellow survivors that he would tell the story. And he has been keeping that promise and telling his story for 70 years. Dr. Kats has been promoting tolerance and teaching about the Holocaust in different venues across the country to Jews and non-Jews alike. His family utilized deep-rooted political connections to save not only their family, but many of their friends, neighbors, and anyone they could. Following the Holocaust, he resettled in the United States and has been part of building communities such as the Five Towns. He has also started TAG, Torah Academy for Girls, as well as the Agudah of Long Island, institutions which are thriving today. At a time when our future as a society is uncertain, we need to overcome hate, be unified, and never forget. Hate is once again rearing its ugly head across our society. Now more than ever we need to be unified and come together. As anyone who went through the Holocaust can tell you, hate results in destruction, devastation, and loss of life. With unity, we can come together. Thank you to Chazak, Torah Anytime, and QJL for coordinating this event. I would now like to introduce my dear friend, a man responsible for inspiring thousands of people, Rabbi Yaniv Meirov, who will be interviewing Dr. Kats tonight. Thank you all. Shalom Aleichem and welcome everyone to a special special interview. We have the honor, we have the privilege to be here at Dr. Moshe Kats's home. Welcome. Shalom Aleichem and shkoyach for agreeing to be uh interviewed. How are you doing, Dr. Kats? How are you feeling? Baruch Hashem, I feel okay. I'm welcoming you. I'm glad you came in time. And I'm all ready for you. Okay, yeshurun koach, Dr. Kats. Thank you very much for your time. We're going to be discussing your book, uh and then we're going to be discussing the Shoah, so let's jump straight into it. In your book Nine out of 10, you took readers through a history of the Hungarian Jews' will to survive and overcome adversity during the war. Take us back, with your permission, to the time when you were younger and Nazi terror was not a factor. Tell us about your family and your yeshiva upbringing, please. It's a long story, but I'd like to make it as short as possible. Well, let's start when I was very young in cheder, like uh all children went to cheder. And at age of uh 13, you had to go to a mesivta, a yeshiva, out of town. And uh I ended up in Romania called Vad Iva Shoah, Vishay and my rosh yeshiva was a Mordechai Leib Cohn. And it was not a like a regular yeshiva, it was more like an intern- international gathering of boys from all over the countries, different countries. And we passed there uh once a month or six months. And then we graduated and went to a higher yeshiva to Košice, Czechoslovakia. And there we had a very good rabbi. In other words, to describe you the difference between a rabbi in America and a rabbi in Europe, there was never a compliment. All they knew is abuse you. I'm sorry to tell you that, but that's true story. Like one rabbi would tell me that you have no brains. Because if I ask you something, if you want the truth is, it's permitted. And if you want to say permitted, think the opposite what you think, say that. And then you'll be okay. So it's only one abuse to carry with me. And in Košice, the opposite third thing, the opposite happened. Uh I met a rabbi by the call Avigdor Gershon Kestenbaum. And like all the rabbis there, they were in poor financial condition. And he invited me to his class on Friday morning and introduced me to 30 boys. And I told you, "This is a good boy. Comes from a good family from Ungvar, and I urge you to be friendly with him." And now we are two mesechtas in front of us. Mesechtas Kiddushin, mesechtas Avodah Zarah. By Monday, he expected us to know the first page of these two Gemaras. I had no idea what they talking about. So I was broken up and Shabbos afternoon, first Friday night, I went to the close and I found a young man and says, "Could you help me?" "Sure, what's the problem?" Told me, "Let's take care of one mesechta first." "Okay." So Kiddushin, Nedarim, Gittin, Bava Metzia, Shulchan Aruch, Bava Metzia, and the whole story. And he taught me for about 3 hours, I knew it by heart. Come back in the afternoon, Shabbos. I came back. He took care of Avodah Zarah. Who's a little little man and reading Gemara, my timer. So the whole story. Anyhow, I went all right. Monday morning, who knows? I know, Rabbi. Told you he's a good boy. But my background was I knew nothing. I came there uh with very little knowledge background. And this is how two rabbis differ from one another. This one encouraged me, and because of him, I studied day and night not to disappoint him. I didn't do it for my mother or my father, or not even for the rosh yeshiva, only for the rabbi. I didn't want to let him down, and since then I had a wonderful uh time. I wasn't afraid to learn. I went to a big No, to a big to a higher yeshiva called Rachov, which was the end of Czechoslovakia. And now in 1938 came the war. And every little guy wanted to make a country for himself. So it was a guy by name of Voloshin who made it a country, divided the part of Czechoslovakia, the Russian part, for himself. And said, "All the people who weren't born in this neighborhood should go home." So we went home. And I was 14 years old. And now, not long after that, the Hungarian army took over the Czechoslovakia uh country, and we were all confused what to do. At that time I had payos, like everybody else. And one afternoon, I was walking maybe a block away from my house, and four pilots accosted me and jumped on me, stepped on me, and pulled off one of my payos. And this was my hello to the Hungarian army. I It was the Hungarian Air Force, not the army. So I went home, and I went to the barber, and I tell the barber to cut off my second payos to make it even. So the barber was a religious man, and he said, "I don't do it unless your father comes here and tell me to do it." In turn, I wasn't so dumb. I went to a goyisha barber shop, cut off the payos. No more payos. I don't need to be beaten up because of the payos. And this is how it started. Now, I will skip a few years. The Jews had a very hard time. They took away all the husbands to labor camps. And the woman stayed home like widows. Hardship paying rents. And if not for the American joint, people would have starved. Help came from America. And little by little everybody suffered. We were seven boys home and three girls. And somehow my father had some connection by the police and were able to stay home all of us. But we didn't show too much. Every one of us went in different school not to not to say that the catches are exempt. And this is what happened. Now I'm going to just tell you a story and then we finish this action. Uh in 1942 Hitler was demanding by the Hungarian government to deliver the Jews. Horthy, who was the leader of Hungary at that time, he wasn't a friend of the Jews, but he needed the Jews for the business and the factory. Because most of the big factories, even the munition factories, was owned by a Weiss family, which were Jewish. And if he takes away all these people, what's going to be with all these the economy will collapse. So, he didn't want to let the Jews go. Finally, Hitler tells him, "Okay, you want to keep your citizens, keep them, but I want the Polish Jews." So, they collected 22,000 Polish Jews in November 1942. My father was also born in Poland, so the police chief told him to hide. And so, that's how he stayed home. And these Jews were taken to Ukraine in a town called Kamianets-Podilskyi. If you look up Kamianets-Podilskyi, you could see the atrocities and what they did to the Jews. My brother Pinkhas, who was a Belzer Hasid, uh mar- married in a little town of Chavas in Marmaros. Where the Visnitz Rebbe of the first Rebbe And his father-in-law was taken away with these people. And he came to my father and says, "Daddy, you have so much connections all over. Try to bring back my father-in-law." How could that be? Nobody ever heard of that. But he didn't let go and suddenly my father thinks there is uh family Kömngéder where in the 1930s the father went bankrupt. And my father was the only person who could give him credit again and helped him to come back to business. And before he died, he told his children, "If Katz, the brush maker, needs any help, regardless if it takes your life, you got to do it." And he was he was an officer of the Hungarian army. My father persuaded him to go there to Kamianets-Podilskyi and bring him home. So, he went there and Mr. Stern, Shmuel Stern, who was the father-in-law of my brother, "Okay, I'm going with you, but cut off the beard." "I want to go with my beard to my maker. I want to go there the way I look." He wouldn't listen. He came back, so we tried again, persuaded him to go to put some bandages and blood with a red cross. He got himself a red cross truck, went there, covered the beard, and they brought him home. Now, I got to tell you a short story and then we finish this segment. It was a Shacharis minyan today. So, it was very hard for me to walk. I fell three times before I got to shul. A malach came from the back, a doctor picked me up, and I was able to go, and I had a Shacharis minyan. Why do I tell you that? He was in our house hiding. And two weeks later was a Shacharis minyan. So, he says in Jewish, "Ich soll gehen zu Shacharis gehen in shul rein. Der Shacharis minyan." "Oh, no, I must go to Shacharis minyan." We tried to persuade him, "Some people will see you and it wouldn't be good." "Ich muss gehen in shul rein." He went to shul. The shul was in the same uh yard as as our apartment. So, I learn remembered his thing. He was taking a chance of life and life to go to shul to Shacharis minyan. "I'm in a free country. Why shouldn't I go?" And this is why I cons- I went. And finally, he didn't want to stay in our house because we wouldn't let him go to shul. He was 70 years old. He didn't know the laws and what's going on. He went home to his hometown. Before you know, the uh state troopers came. They were very, very harsh to Jews. They had the feathers hat. And they said, "How did you get back?" So, he says, "Chaim Katz brought me back." Without any problems. And that was started our problem. And the FBI came to our house to investigate, investigated a long time. And once he came to my father and he shook him up, he says, "Okay, you give me all your money, I'll let you go." So, that's what we were waiting for, and we had a friend in the FBI who arranged the house to be wired. And my father sent a person to Bochum, where the Belzer Rebbe was in the ghetto. And the shaliach come back on Thursday night. And the Rebbe said, "Yeshua's Hashem yachid avain." My father made a seder. He said, "Don't worry, everything will be okay." Friday morning, they were waiting 9:00 the guy should come and pick up the money. He got a call from headquarters, he committed suicide. And that's And this that it's not that I heard it, I lived it. And with this I close this segment. Wow, Dr. Katz, very inspiring. So, is there one story that you would say that you remember vividly or that you could share with us from the times of the Shoah that could give us chizuk, give us some inspiration, some some emunah and bitachon? Since my father came from Poland and my mother from Hungary, we always had refugees in the house because somehow their passport or their uh stay in the city was expired. And we we always knew what's going on in this world. So, I mean the minute we grew up, we knew what's going on because those refugees were talking all the time. And we hardly believed them, but it was true. So, I was involved not only in kiyum, but how to save uh people. But the first thing is I went to take care of my relatives. And it so happened that there was a Fritz Fatic family who had two orphan girls in Budapest in Hungary. At that time I was there already. It was a whole thing how I got there, but we leave that for later if we have the time. And I went to their apartment. They were crying like fever. That the superintendent told them that by tomorrow 12:00 they got to leave because the houses has to be Jew free. They were Jewish houses pushed them into the houses there and they were Jew free. There were signs and apartment house I'm talking with 20, 40, 50, 100 tenants. Jew free house, Jewish house. So, what do I do with two children, 11 and 13? Two girls. Finally, I found uh Catholic orphan home which they agreed if I supply them every week with a certain amount of food, they will take in the kids. Because there's no food. And then I worked as a guy in a supermarket. But not a supermarket like you see, a supermarket through a little supermarket. Like twice as big as this room. And I was able to get all all the food that I wanted. So, in a basket I took the food there and meanwhile those two girls had crosses on their neck already and they told them they're praying. I called them aside in the backyard and I told them, "Remember you're Jewish. And if I don't stay alive, you remember to do something to go to Jewish people who will s- remain alive." She says, "Okay." They said, "Shema Yisrael." And then the nurses come already, the nuns. Too much too much too much. Uh after a few weeks um this I had my brother with me who were wearing a policeman's uniform. That's who he was. And he was always a few houses away from me to see what's going on. One day I come out from the nursing home from the Catholic home and I s- two detectives motioned me come over come over come over. And my brother is watching me and he says, "Okay, come to the precinct because you are engaged in black marketing." He saw me carrying food in and food was only available on uh coupons. Every week every family get a coupon and that's how we went shopping. So, he had the courage and said, "This guy I am looking for two weeks already and you're going to spoil my investigation." They were happy let me go take them. And that's how I got out. So, here I stop again for your next question. Amazing, Dr. Katz. Unbelievable. Uh we're going to jump to a different topic of anti-Semitism. Unfortunately anti-Semitism is still a threat. What can we do as individuals to fight this evil? Is there any lessons from the back then that we could use for today? You see, anti-Semitism is a not a new thing. Since the world was created, there was anti-Semitism in different ways. But killing like Hitler did was never ever happened. They changed those from one country people into the other country. There was killings but not the killing of 6 million people. So, I am a member of uh Mrs. Lichtenstein's organization. Project Witness. Project Witness. And I talk in their behalf. And since this uh virus came in the whole thing stopped. But just before this we decided that Holocaust is no more an item. It's an old thing. People will forget. It's too old. You're going to schools today, ask any child, they don't know nothing about it. In fact, there's a lot of guys don't know nothing about it. I tried them out in Lakewood. Out of 20, nobody knew. I don't talk details. Nothing. Nothing. So, we decided to do something about anti-Semitism. So, the first thing is we went to Crown Heights to a colored school where there was a lot of uh colored people a lot of Yemenite people and a lot of different people about 500 people in the auditorium. And I presented the way this way. You don't have to say hate us and we don't have to hate you. We have a common enemy. And those are the How do you call them? Higher. Those who are against everybody who is Jewish and uh Anti-Semites. No. You're talking about the the skinheads? What? The skinheads? The skinheads and somebody else. Anyhow, they are both our enemies. They hate the black people. They hate anybody who is not pure white. And we have to get together and fight them together. And this is how we have to do it because they want to destroy you, they they want to destroy us. So, we have to get together and stop them. Okay? And this was my team. I brought them examples how they burn up black black churches in the South. I showed them dates when those people went to trial and they got 20 years. I showed them another another guy who killed 10 people and I showed them where and I told them the dates. And I convinced them that there is an enemy who are both of ours enemy. So, they congratulated me and they loved me and they got together. Uh You have the picture on the machine? You have the color, yeah. Yeah, prepare that picture. I know. Show me how to do it. And we had a very very successful Mrs. Lichtenstein was there. She said she never heard such a presentation. And now we were starting to get busy with anti-Semitism, not the thing because that's more important than this because this is today. That was then. Not that I don't care. Sure I care. There is not a day that I don't think of it. In my dreams I I scream and everything else. I live with it. Uh this is my life. I dedicated the last 30 years of doing that. I was teaching a class in Yeshiva Far Rockaway for almost 30 years and in tag or other schools whenever they let me in I spoke Catholic schools uh uh whatever you want, public schools. Whenever I had a chance, I never said no. So, thank God this was a success. And we planned other successes and we had congressman with us and important people that they should see and we also had a Jew with a beard with us. They should all that how a Jew looks like me, could be like them. And it was something out of this world. We had a a very good successful. The principal was wearing those Arabian uniform. Came in wearing and hugged me. And he says, "I never thought of that how they have to teach them." He called the supremacists. And and uh they gave us they gave me a basket of full of fruits. Because by the time I told them about kosher and not kosher. And we planned another one. We had and that's all. And uh Harlem 125th Street, there's a special school for uh very intelligent boys and girls, mostly black. And we had on the internet the Zoom. Supposed to be 45 minutes, it lasted 2 hours plus. Wow. The teachers and the principal, they all sent me letters of congratulation for what well it went. They they wanted to know how the Holocaust was and why it was. I says, why it was, I cannot answer you. But how everything went, that I I could tell you. So, this was in the 125th Street school was a very big success. Then they came the infection of the 19 and then everything stopped. They call me for a few times for the Zoom. I don't go for it. It's not It's not uh It's not my thing. Could you ask me something else, please? Yeah, of course. Amazing, Dr. Katz. At the organization that we have Chazak, we always strive to show chesed, kindness to everyone, every Jew that we meet. And we try to give them chizuk, give them inspiration on their own level. During the Shoah, during the Holocaust, being there for a Jew was certainly a big factor. Being there for other people to help them. Any story brings light to this concept? Do you have any story? Well, to this concept it's like this. We learned that if you leave the Jewish faith eventually they catch you again. It doesn't help. The best example is in when Dreyfus was convicted for espionage the real anti-Semitism started all over the world. Kill the Jews, kill the Jews, kill the Jews. Look at that. Uh he was an officer of French army and he becomes a spy against them. So, to make it short Emile Zola wasn't a lawyer. It bothered him because he saw it's not true. There was a railroad thing that got him in. And with other lawyers, with other people, they worked and they reserved they reversed the thing and they let him go. But they just didn't want to let him go like they made a mistake. So, they wrote a law that he should free him. Nothing apologizing, nothing. And newspapers articles was this little when he was freed. And this anti-Semitism boiled over all over Middle Europe. And they maskilim started to live very good. In Hungary alone, there was 100,000 uh uh this was taking the Catholic religion. Not so much because to be religious, just in case some trouble comes, they will be saved. But when the deportation came, they all went on the train. Regardless how religious you are or not religious you are, they ended up in Auschwitz. And from that you see that only trouble is it's like here the Jewish people don't have enough hero organizations and the other side has enough very strong. I'll show an example. They had the maskilim had a little short show on a stage and they put there 40 people in one side and there was a judge a military officer, a doctor to see who's going to the army. So, one guy comes Oh, I just got married. No, don't have to go to the army. The other one says, build a winery. You don't have to go to the army. The other one said, I just built a house. Mhm, I'm afraid. No. And before you know, these two people in wheelchairs, we want to go. So, this is the Jewish people with the army. You see, things like this to make choshek is they had a song. In mikveh it's again can achnis verstein. A mincha gesinte mit dem winter soll doch machen arisch. You understand? No. You don't know Yiddish? A bissel shtikel a bit. Oh, it says like this. But it rhymes. Uh we cannot understand that a healthy man should go to the mikveh in the winter. They make choshek, you understand? So, they had an organization not equal. They snatched they snatched religious boys and girls away and you see, in Europe it was at 14 you finish school. Want to go to work, you could go with work. So, they went to work and by 16 they had enough money not to listen to their parents. And they went on their own and they didn't go like here with drugs, there was no drugs. It went uh on Shabbos swimming. On Shabbos playing soccer. This is how this whole thing started and it was easier to be not religious but the cheres from parents like we had none in the place here you cannot figure out. They didn't call Dad, Dad, come here or there. If you please everything was if you please. He didn't say I want. You we could say I desire. But we never said the story I want. To show you one example how the cheres was. There was a family whose son was young, 18, 19. But they were very good soccer catcher. And they came to him, Mr. Rosenbloom your son is mechallel Shabbos. My son is not mechallel Shabbos. We go to the clothes, we daven 12:00, we finish eating our lunch 1:00, I learn with him until 3:00 and then he goes to sleep and I go to sleep. But he didn't know he goes to the window and a car is waiting for him and take him to Shabbos was the training. So, and each time they pulled the father and and your shame, your son, your son, your son. And the son rather didn't play then then hurt the father. Until he moved out of town and he did whatever he wants. But respect for parents was unbelievable. In even the non-religious pa- parents were respected all the time. 99% of all families. Dear Rabbi, that's amazing. Since you wrote your book, have any other episodes come to light or stories or or or tidbits or information that you would like to document for the world and cement into history? Well, I I'm in touch with a goyem who helped me for the first uh 3 months of my escape. I was at their farm and I worked with goyem, nobody knew that I'm Jewish. Only the supervisor of the farm. And I'm in touch with them, the third generation even today. Uh a few years ago when this Pittsburgh killing was was all the newspapers in Europe. So, I got a letter from them. Uncle Peter, that was my name there, Peter. Uncle Peter we just painted a room with a new mattress. We could You could come to us because we hear that they're killing the Jews in America. You understand? Yeah. And this is us, you know. And I went there I went there a few times. And the last time I was there was around maybe 10 12 years ago. And it came Friday. The bishop of the town comes to see me. He says, "Mr. Katz, I want to apologize. I always told bad things about Jews in my church. And I always because they saw that my people are dressed better than any other my girls' clothing and I always send them and a suit for him and they were different. They were the only one of them that had a bathroom like I mean a regular bathroom in the house. All everybody's outside. You ever hold so an outside house? Okay. This is what's going on 10 years ago. So, he wants to apologize. I should come to church in front of everybody that he's sorry because I'm going to go to my maker. He's 85 years old and he wants to apologize. I told him, "I'm sorry. I don't go into a church." And beside this, I have to leave. I'm going to Israel. So, he says to me, "Okay, here an answer to any on Sunday." And they sent me in the newspapers. He really sent it on Sunday that he's sorry what he did because he always told the people the American Jew will not come back. He'll forget about you. And now the third generation, I'm still sending Christmas money. And they send me and you know, New Year's cards and with all kind of sickness. Uh with the crosses and everything else. And this is how how they are very very plain people. Very honest people. And I never gave them any money when I was there. So, this is what what brings me down again. Anti-Semitism is growing. It's growing. They hate us. Uh you know what? Go ask 20 people why they hate the Jew. He don't know. So, you're not going to end anti-Semitism. You only could do one thing. Kiddush. And thank God I did one kiddush. But I did it right. I met the young man was working for the building department and somehow we became friends. And little by little, he put the kid in the school here. And for 20 years he was eating in my house with the whole family. Wow. Three children and then five every They went to Israel. And 10 years ago I went to visit them. And they got the whole family there. And they had 50 grandchildren and children Wow. in the sukkah. And tells me, "Moshe, this is all yours." And not even one which is not shomer Shabbos. One of the daughters married a guy with a shtreimel. And he has yeshivas. And he has soldiers, farmers, he has everything you could think, but it's all shomer Shabbos. And baruch Hashem for that alone, I said, "Hashem, I thank you for allowing me to do this. And I did it. Wasn't easy, but I did it and I'm very proud of the outcome." And the same thing with why I did yeshivas here. Everybody asked me. In October 1944, a new government came into Hungary. Worse than than the Germans. Very bad. Uh there was no more transportation. So, they collected Jews 40,000 by foot marching them toward Germany. And the children, they said, "Leave it in the high school. We'll take care of them in the public schools and when you come back, we'll give them back to you." So, suddenly they made uh agreement. No food. No work, no food. Children don't work. They got to get them together and throw them into the Danube River. And I was I lived on the 10th floor in a beautiful apartment house. And at night we look out through the window. 10:00 there was a clock. There was a curfew. Nobody could walk 10:00 no more. She truck loads of children coming. Throw them to the to the ocean. And this was for eight days. About 2,000 a day. And those who tried to swim, they killed. And the older children, they would cuff two three together. They said, "Swim to swim." If you ever go to Budapest, you could see all their shoes yet on the thing. And this a Jewish boy like me had to look at it. And I say, "Ribbono shel Olam, if I stay alive, I will do yeshivas." And that's why I dedicated myself. I built Shaar Yoshuv yeshiva here. I built Tag here. Rabbi Pfeiffer's yeshiva was born in this house. Darchei Torah was born in this house. And I didn't do Darchei Torah. All the only thing was at that time, my first $500 was the first deposit they made. And yeshiva Darchei Torah was constantly here eating Shabbos in the beginning when they had five or six boys. And they weren't easy boys. Shaar Yoshuv. But they Shaar Yoshuv, not Darchei. What? Shaar Yoshuv yeshiva. Shaar Yoshuv yeshiva. Not Darchei. Not Darchei, no. Who Lena? Oh, that not Darchei. Good to give correct with me. You can always listen to a wife. Yes. So, Shaar Yoshuv, yeah, Rabbi Katz. This is this is the thing. I could go on and on and on and on, but I know the time is short. Everybody's in a hurry. And uh the span of listening is no longer than 15 minutes. I go to schools. I know. Even yeshiva boys. When I taught the girls, I saw that after 15 20 minutes, so I gave them 10 minutes of how to go out on the edge. Oh, wow. They loved that. You understand? But they made good work, you know. They made made very good work. So, how did you change that to Shaar Yoshuv cuz it wasn't Darchei? It's fine. Today you could see in Shaar Yoshuv 150 boys. Yeah, that's beautiful building. Just connect her up. Is there one final message, Dr. Katz, that you could give it to our audience one last Okay. My final message is this. My Jewish brethren, my Jewish brothers and sisters, wake up. Wake up. Wake up. You think you're secured? Nothing is secure. If you could get one family to be shomer Shabbos, just one family, that you could earn the world. Why? Figure out. There is shomer Shabbos people almost a million. If everybody would take in one family, overnight will be 2 million. Then they think somebody else. You could make up the 6 million lost Jews with this. There's no other way. You don't have to be a builder who's a shatner who's a a Jew. So, if you could do that, that would make me happy. And that's only way I'm so without me doing one, I wouldn't be happy with my life. I did one, I'm very happy. And this would make you happy. Just invite him for a dinner. Who can up somehow? And then give it over to an organization. It doesn't matter how you start. As long as you start. And with this, I love every Jew regardless of their religion or affiliation. Every Jew is important to me. So, I love you all and have a good good of all and a wonderful life. Thank you. Amen. Amen. Wow, that was really inspiring last message. And to give you his Dr. Katz, I didn't tell you this in the beginning, but the organization we're involved with Hazak can I know her up to date 997 kids we transferred from public schools to Yeshivas in about 4 years can I know her. Baruch Hashem has the Hashem. Just to give you a little bit of a his but it's just the beginning of the Avida. Everyone that's watching knows about the great work that the organization does. But Dr. Katz, I got to tell you what a his you just gave me. If everybody just saves one more in a shama, we double what we have right now, a million to two. From you then and the Hashem will bring the shlema with the Messiah to the kingdom and may know amen. Shkoyach. Shkoyach.